A Smokey Eye & A Whiz Whiz (w/ Stavros Halkias)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

Episode: A Smokey Eye & A Whiz Whiz (w/ Stavros Halkias)
Release Date: October 30, 2025
Guest: Stavros Halkias
Podcast Network: SmartLess Media

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Main Theme & Episode Purpose

In this candid, laugh-filled episode, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally are joined by comedian Stavros Halkias for a raw, honest, and frequently hilarious conversation about the ongoing struggles of health, weight, willpower, addiction, and the pursuit of wellness—especially for people in comedy and entertainment whose relationships with food, body image, and party culture are complicated. The trio trade stories about their bodies, mental health, family trauma, and the role that food, weed, and modern drugs (notably new weight loss medications) play in their lives, all while never losing sight of their signature irreverence and empathy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Guest Intro

• The show opens in classic Staying Alive form: plenty of food jokes and wild riffing as Stavros enjoys a sandwich.
• All three bond over their “fat guy energy” and the way genuine personalities (rather than on-stage personae) draw them together.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “He’s not like a persona.” – Gabrus on Stavros [01:53]
  • “We’re open books about ourselves. We’re curious about other people.” – Gabrus [02:43]

2. Wrestling, 80s Villains & Physical Decline [03:10 – 05:35]

• Brief riff on aging, wrestling, and Vince McMahon—using these to poke fun at macho self-destruction.
• The hosts joke about American dietary changes, the decline of beef tallow fries, and “beef towel” as a gross hotel image.

3. Weight Loss Drugs, Food Obsession & Changing Habits [06:29 – 18:21]

• The meat of the episode: a brutally honest roundtable about the new generation of weight loss drugs (Wegovy, Ozempic), emotional eating, and the “math” people do justifying meals.
• Stavros and Adam share deeply personal stories about growing up weight-obsessed, lifelong calorie tracking, and cycles of bingeing and food restriction.
• Notable Exchange:
  • “I ate a healthy lunch, so I’m allowed to go nuts, right?” – Gabrus [07:23]
  • “The math is completely wrong.” – Adam [07:31]
• Adam recounts how his best comedy years overlapped with periods of extreme unhealthy living—partying, overeating, and “my dick barely worked.”
• Stavros reflects on family legacy: his father’s weight monitoring, his own health scares, and being put on weight loss medication due to severe family history of heart issues.
• Notable Quote:
  • "[The drugs] are miracle drugs... with your genetic history, it's dangerous for you to be walking around without it." – Stavros, on his father's advice [15:04]

4. How These Drugs Change Life [18:22 – 22:40]

• The downsides: the trio trade horror stories about what happens when you try to “overpower” the medication—suffering, food poisoning-like symptoms, and punishing digestive distress.
• They unpack the internalized shame and fatphobia of feeling like they “deserve” these punishments for over-eating.
• Quote:
  • “It feels like you’re the guy in Da Vinci Code... I deserve sulfur breath. I deserve to be on the toilet for nine hours.” – Adam [19:53]

5. Maintaining Willpower on the Road and Life on Tour [16:34 – 18:21, 24:15 – 26:59]

• The challenges of keeping healthy while touring, living on buses, crashing in hotels, and the huge infrastructure required to avoid weight gain.
• How fleeting healthy habits can be, and how drugs give a “jetpack” effect—short but effective—before real life undercuts them again.
• Stavros: “The only times it really kicks in is when I really overdo it.”

6. The Reality of Modern Medications & Fatness [24:15 – 26:59]

• Why are we suddenly meticulous about researching weight-loss drugs when we’ve taken sketchy substances (or even got vaxxed) without a second thought?
• The team reflects on commodification – are they just “livestock” being dosed to fuel entertainment for others?
• The existential anxiety of being “medicated to be profitable” for others.

7. Fatness, Identity & Comedy [28:07 – 34:12]

• The risk of defining oneself by fatness or unhealthy habits—vs. seeing it as just one part of life.
• Stories of being the “funny fat guy” - the party cannonballer, the target for fat jokes.
• Notable Quote:
  • “I was doing like fat minstrelly... I was like a fat snake, shirt off at every party.” – Gabrus [33:34]
  • “I've been called fat by strangers since 1988.” – Gabrus [33:10]
• Important insight: Letting go of the myth that their humor or creative spark depends on being unhealthy or self-destructive.

8. Cycles of Self-Sabotage, Late-Night Eating, Shame & Relapse [34:51 – 47:43]

• Gabrus and Pally share vulnerable stories about breaking promises, late-night bingeing, waking up filled with shame, and how it feels to “know better” but not change.
• Quote:
  • “I'm like a vampire for melted cheese.” – Gabrus [37:56]
• The discussion on how weed plays into poor decisions about food, and how willpower falters late at night or at low points.

9. Sobriety as a Tool, Addiction Transfer, and How to Actually Change [41:26 – 47:43]

• Adam notes that complete sobriety (even from weed), more than moderation, is often the only way he can function healthily.
• Gabrus admits how daunting the idea of quitting weed forever feels, while all acknowledge it's the clearest answer.
• Use injury metaphors to underline the need for proper “healing time” before attempting lifestyle changes.

10. Career, Comedy Scenes, and Upcoming Work [50:41 – 57:14]

• Stavros discusses touring, favorite cities, and love of performing across the country—from big market shows in NYC/LA/Chicago to weird little venues in Arkansas.
• Plug for Stavros’ podcast and upcoming tour dates.
• Interesting insight into the Venice Film Festival, the reception for “Begonia,” and stories of working with top actors and directors.
• Quote:
  • “A true performer—the Rock knows how to make an audience do whatever he wants.” – Adam Pally [54:49]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “My goal weight is still a BMI that would make me uninsured.” – John Gabris [30:51]
• “I'm a generous laugh for people... but it's real, you're just providing a laugh track, right? And then I was like, no, I'm a stand up comic.” – Stavros [29:18]
• “If you broke your leg, you wouldn’t jog on a broken leg.” – Adam Pally, on respecting behavioral recovery [42:16]
• “We completed the fat guy group chat: Zach Cherry, Mike Mitchell, and Stavi.” – Gabrus [58:23]

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Important Topic Timestamps

• (06:29 – 18:21): Weight loss drugs, family health anxieties, breaking cycles
• (18:22 – 22:40): Overeating on medication, shame, bodily punishment
• (24:15 – 26:59): The existential weirdness of medicating for others’ profit
• (28:07 – 34:12): Identity, comedy, and the myth of “needing” to be unhealthy
• (34:51 – 37:56): Shame spirals, late-night eating confessions
• (41:26 – 47:43): Sobriety, addiction transfer, and introspection
• (50:41 – 57:14): Career highlights, touring, performing, and the Venice Film Festival

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, brutally honest, and often profanely funny—with fleeting moments of genuine vulnerability
• The hosts and guest riff, interrupt, and self-deprecate, but never lose empathy for themselves or each other.
• Often switches between gross-out humor (“beef towel,” “shitting blood,” late-night binges) and sincere admissions of mental health struggles.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a must-listen for anyone who has struggled with food, body image, or any type of self-control, especially in an entertainment context. Gabrus, Pally, and Halkias expertly balance humor with real talk, offering an unvarnished look at the battle to take care of yourself—physically, mentally, and emotionally—when your instincts, habits, hormonal drugs, and the demands of a comedy career all pull you in the wrong direction. The result is cathartic, touching, and consistently hilarious.

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For New Listeners

You’ll enjoy it most if you appreciate confessional comedy, “fat guy solidarity,” or want insight into the health journeys of working comics, with enough inside-joke riffing and personal story to keep both diehard and new fans entertained. This episode distills what makes “Staying Alive” unique: jokes and shame, wit and self-awareness, all in a single, highly relatable package.

Transcript

[Adam Pally]

Smart. Bless me. I would love to interrogate all this because I feel like we're coming at it from kind of different.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, let's hold off a little and really get.

[Stavi]

Oh, I thought we could just go all. While I'm eating.

[Adam Pally]

People love that on podcasts. I know. They want to see a fat guy sloppily quickly eating a fucking turkey sandwich.

[John Gabris]

Well, I would say we should record, but I'm also watching the pace at which Stavi's eating, and I think we can wait another six seconds.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, why don't you hit record by the time. Time. By the time the engineer's finger is off the button, this is what you be thinking about.

[Stavi]

I was thinking about getting him out of here on. On time.

[John Gabris]

He just pulls the rapper out of his mouth.

[Stavi]

No time wasted. I know when this guy's going to be done.

[John Gabris]

Just jam down some quick Jimmy John's in between.

[Stavi]

Oh, give them a little forward to our guest.

[John Gabris]

Oh, I'm glad. Thank you for using your spokesmanship powers to get us some Jimmy John's.

[Stavi]

Thank, Jim. Thank you. Thank. Thank you, Jimmy John's, for being the greatest thing that ever happened in my life. Not just for like a year.

[John Gabris]

I'm not even talking about the deal. I'm talking about the rest.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Not just the years of employment, but like the. Also, I really do like your sandwiches, so thank you. Jimmy John's. May you rest.

[John Gabris]

That hit fucking hard when I was hungover and needed a bite before we started recording with Stocky.

[Stavi]

Yeah, it's great. And it's also so nice. Like, they get, they feed the crew and everything. It's great. What a great brand.

[John Gabris]

Stavi coming on the pod. That's crazy.

[Stavi]

I know. This is a huge guess.

[Adam Pally]

I know.

[Stavi]

This is our biggest star we've ever had.

[John Gabris]

Well, I'm obsessed with our next guest.

[Stavi]

Me too. Professionally. And I've. This would be the first time I ever met him. But I, I, I feel like I know him. I feel like I. We have so many friends in common and I just think he's the funniest. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And he really is kind of like who you think he is. You know what I mean? He's not like. He's not a Persona.

[Stavi]

No, no.

[John Gabris]

He's exactly like what if you watch his stand, he's just like that in real life.

[Stavi]

And it's nice that. Yeah, it's nice to. He's a real one.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, he's like one of those people. Like, we've. For years we've both been hearing that we Needed to meet.

[Stavi]

Right.

[John Gabris]

Because he's like a podcaster who gives up laughs. And he's like a fat slob who also is confident. And so it's like these vibes that we both have in common. Every and then when we finally met, we were like, okay, the Internet was right. We are. We should be friends. Yeah. And it was like, the first time, we, like, we were like, I went and did his podcast. He's like, hey, man, everyone says we should meet. And we went and, like, I did his podcast, and we hit it off, like, immediately. And I fuck.

[Stavi]

Well, you guys both have this, like, incredibly, like, open, open vibe. You know, we're like.

[John Gabris]

We're very similar in that way. We're like. We're open books about ourselves. We're curious about other people.

[Stavi]

Judgmental.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Empaths. To a certain degree.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Although, you know, both of you, we learned, are fiery. All right, Stay alive.

[John Gabris]

No, ladies and gentlemen, hold on. Wait. That's right. We're not even recording till now.

[Stavi]

I just want to make sure I got next.

[John Gabris]

Ladies and gentlemen, stop rough.

[Stavi]

Does that phone case hold a joint in it?

[Adam Pally]

No, no, it's cards and.

[Stavi]

Oh, have you seen those ones? They, like, hold a joint in it.

[Adam Pally]

I haven't, but, Gabris, that seems like.

[Stavi]

Something he would have. Yeah, like lip gloss.

[John Gabris]

I gotta order it. Yeah, it's got a mirror on the back, so. Ye.

[Stavi]

And mine also has a mirror on the back. No, we got it.

[John Gabris]

Take that out.

[Stavi]

Just the joke.

[John Gabris]

Go ahead.

[Stavi]

My Ed McMahon over here.

[Adam Pally]

That's right. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Vince McMahon trafficking.

[Adam Pally]

That's right. I did hear he the guys, too. Now, that's a new rumor going around. I love that he Shawn Michaels or whatever. I mean, when he came back with the most evil mustache possible.

[John Gabris]

I know.

[Adam Pally]

That was incredible. He's like, I don't care. I'm dyeing my hair jet black.

[John Gabris]

You guys think I'm a villain. We'll see about that.

[Adam Pally]

It was awesome. Did he.

[Stavi]

Did they ever figure out what was going on with his hips and stuff, why he walked like that?

[John Gabris]

Like, I think it's just leg pressing into your 80s.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Like pressing, like, 900 pounds on steroids when you're 70 years old. Probably does not deal for it anymore.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, he walked like Sean Penn in one battle after the other.

[Stavi]

Yeah, he did.

[Adam Pally]

That's where he got it. That's where he got.

[John Gabris]

Is it. Did Donald Trump give. Did our president give Vince McMahon a stunner? I do believe he gave.

[Stavi]

Oh, wow.

[John Gabris]

I think he, like, did something to him. In a wrestling, which is just a crazy world. And by the way, Vince McMahon, this guy, this piece of shoe we're talking about, his wife is there.

[Stavi]

Head of education just gutted. Another massive thing today.

[John Gabris]

We were realizing milk is bad for kids. RFK says no. We're taking the milk out. We're putting Sprite in there. Starry, we did a dye.

[Adam Pally]

It doesn't have dyes, though.

[John Gabris]

No.

[Adam Pally]

And it's real sugar.

[Stavi]

Poppy. We're putting poppy in baby's bottle.

[Adam Pally]

It is awesome to be like, look, I know I'm fat as shit. I know I'm unhealthy. But switching out high fructose corn syrup for sugar, that's not going to solve.

[John Gabris]

That's not what you think of. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Can we just admit that at least? Oh, it's beef tallow fries.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[John Gabris]

That's what we need. That's healthier.

[Adam Pally]

That was more fun in America. That was step one.

[John Gabris]

That was the only step we've gotten.

[Stavi]

Wait till this beef tallow fry thing hits there. Turn around.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Let's get rid of Aspen and put aspirin and put beef towel back. Beef towel. Beef towel. The beef towel is jerk off to in the hotel. Jerk off into in the hotel.

[Stavi]

The beef towel is what? Housekeep.

[John Gabris]

That's a beef towel.

[Stavi]

Housekeeping calls your pile.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, that's what has, like, a, A yellow evidence sign on it in my hotel right now.

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[Stavi]

So you're on the we. I was asking before, you're still on the juice. I'm on the juice.

[Adam Pally]

I am on the juice.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Please, you can interrogate me away.

[Adam Pally]

Sure.

[Stavi]

I, I, you said you were going to. I, I have mixed feelings about it, but I, I understand why I'm on it, and I feel like that's what.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So you were saying, because we were talking about it and you were saying that it depressed you because food is the, and, like, your impulses are the only, like, good thing in your life, essentially, where you're like, this is what I look forward to. This is like my little escape.

[Stavi]

Yes. Well, it's just like planning my day. Like, I. I've been weight obsessed for a while, I think, because my, my dad is a weight obsessed as well and a physician and like always monitoring and so like, yeah, like, I would wake up and be like, all right, if I'm not gonna have a big lunch, then I'll have a big dinner.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Stavi]

You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

Like, it's always think. Always doing the calorie math, even as a kid.

[Stavi]

Exactly. Like, always trying to even it out. Always trying to be like, I'm like that too.

[John Gabris]

And then I' Like, I. I ate a healthy lunch, so I'm allowed to go nuts, right?

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I give myself permission to do it, which is untrue.

[Adam Pally]

The math is completely wrong.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Your healthy lunch was just. Okay.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

It wasn't. It wasn't all. You could survive on this, but it wasn't like a. A scion of health.

[John Gabris]

You know what I mean?

[Stavi]

All sides are wrong. Cuz, like, you're. Nothing you're doing is right, but you're like eating at the wrong time. You're eating, you're intermittent fasting, or you're. You're eating too much, you're binge eating. Like, nothing is right. And I just like, have been obsessed about that thought all my life. So when it went, it didn't even go, like silent. Just like, got dim. I like, missed it.

[Adam Pally]

Mm. I don't miss it. I mean, I'm actually pissed. So when I first started on the lowest dose, actually I had the best results because I. I also wanted to make sure that I was coming off a time in my life where I'd gone really buck wild. Right. Like I had for a couple years. I had really gave in to every one of those things in your mind that's like, you get up, you should eat a ribeye, you should do pills. You know what I mean? And I was just doing that, like every day. Like, I, I have a joke, like, not to do my act, but it was like, no, I got fat as shit. Because every day was like the. An awesome day. Yeah, like, I had an awesome day three years in a row. And you're not supposed to have those. You're supposed to have like a day where you do laundry and eat salad and I never did chores. I never did it. I just did drugs, tried to fuck girls and like, and did it at the absolute fat. Like, my dick barely worked. Like, was like, I don't even know what I was doing. It was just like, I Was trapped in this cycle of, well, if I don't, you know, limply some woman and order $40 worth of Seamless, the moment she leaves my hotel room, I'm gonna be sad or whatever, right? Like, and. And it was fucked up. It was like, real. I got insane. Like, I am much health. The guy you're looking at right now much healthier than who I was like two years ago.

[John Gabris]

Isn't that crazy? Which is crazy that sometimes when someone's like, you know, like, I've like, like, my doctor is like, blah, blah. I'm like, no, no, you don't understand. I was way worse. Like, I'm doing much better. This is me at my best.

[Adam Pally]

I was bursting at the seams, dude. I was like, I was like the very beginning of the transition to a blueberry and Willy Wonka. Like, I wasn't blue yet, but I was like, when I was one, if I got a little better, I was.

[Stavi]

Yours got shorter.

[Adam Pally]

100%.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, effectively, yes. Like, there was so much side titty. I was. They were resting like T. Rex arms, basically. And I really felt like a pr. And to be honest with you, I feel like a prisoner to those feelings. I am not in control of them at all. And the older I get and the more I've like, this is where.

[John Gabris]

This is like exactly where my brain sits. I'm mad how much this runs my life, dude.

[Adam Pally]

And there was a time where I was like, maybe I'm a piece of shit. Maybe I'll just never get it right. And I've kinda done everything else I've ever wanted to do. Like, I've achieved almost every goal in my life and I've worked really harder than I even thought that I had in, you know, like, that year that I got really unhealthy. Part of it was I did a theater tour, a Netflix special, started my own podcast after leaving Cometown, and I co wrote and starred in an indie movie. That was one year, Right. And I couldn't be helped. Like, I just. All my brain power went to those things. And so my willpower, it really feels like I have a very fixed amount of, like, willpower.

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[Adam Pally]

And when I apply that to, like, achieving all my goals, that was. That was a hard year. Right. It's kind of hard to pull those things off. Yeah. And I'm proud of being able to do that, but it was truly at the cost of my personal health. And, like, not. Not only physical, mental, social, like, my. I had no relationships with people, whether they're like, you know, Like, I only saw. I hide. Like. Yeah, yeah. I had my best friends who. My best friend is my tour manager. So it was like, that was kind of nice to. And we have a fucked up relationship where. Thank you know, knock on wood. It's. It's like, it's weird. It should be unhealthy and we should hate each other and he should want. And maybe he's plotting to kill me. Elvis, my. My producer, my. But like, we spent so much time together. But it was. It was nice to have my best friend there. That was. But that was the only thing kind of grounded me. I didn't talk to my family that much. You couldn't have a real relationship.

[John Gabris]

And so I was sleeping on a bus at night and shit.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, well, this is pre bus. This is when I was in hotels, which is even worse. The bus at least like, the bus was me doing things healthier. We're talking three years ago.

[John Gabris]

You're not flying.

[Adam Pally]

You're not flying. And you have like your own space. Right? And it was way too. It was like insanely expensive. But it was like, well, who the fuck cares? Like, I can. I can, you know, make less money, but stay alive. Not to do the thing where you say the name of the movie in.

[John Gabris]

The movie, but, you know, Our Caprio. Our six viewers on YouTube. Holy shit.

[Adam Pally]

But, uh, so yeah, and then. So anyway, I took. I told myself I was going to take. After that, I told myself I was going to take a complete year off, where I was like, I need to reset. I need to. And I was sober for a whole year, completely didn't do anything. I ended up work. It was. It ended up being like six months off, not a full year. I mean, I got to do Begonia, which is fucking insane. Like, when somebody asked you to do a fucking. One of your favorite directors that out of the blue asked you. Being a movie with the two of the greatest actors working, you're like, yeah.

[John Gabris]

You know, I want my year off.

[Stavi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

My sabbatical can get paused.

[Stavi]

So.

[Adam Pally]

October. Yeah, yeah, sorry, man. I'm doing sober October.

[John Gabris]

Sorry. Your ghost.

[Adam Pally]

That's what I email back. Yeah, he moved me around, dude. And so like, so. But still, I took that year to kind of reset my. And particularly I started the juice right before this, the bus tour. I was re. I had kind of like six or seven months of really good habits.

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[Adam Pally]

And so in that moment, I took the stuff and it was like I felt like invincible. Like the first two weeks before tour, part of me thinks like, holy Fuck. If I had taken this and my daughter. Yeah, exactly. Like, if I had just, like, pushed the tour back and even taken three months on, like, it was fucking insane how locked in I was, because I started mentally locked in, and then it was just a turbo. It was like a jetpack, where I didn't even think about this shit at all.

[Stavi]

It does do that. I mean, like, we've had physicians and experts on and people who talk about, like, one of the things that. One of the benefits that people see is that when that noise is cut out, you're able to lock in.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

And, like, for a lot of people, you know, I think that is one of the struggles with. Is that it does. It does. You're thinking about it so much that it stops you from doing.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. For sure.

[Stavi]

The things you want to do.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stavi]

You know, And. And for me, I was prescribed it both as. Because my numbers weren't good, but also because, like, my heart.

[Adam Pally]

Like, blood sugar, you mean? Or just. Yeah, just like, I was kind of fat.

[Stavi]

Heading towards.

[Adam Pally]

You're not a. You were never. I mean, as a kid.

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[Adam Pally]

Maybe this is where this comes from.

[Stavi]

As a kid.

[Adam Pally]

But no. Adult. You were never like, fatty.

[Stavi]

No, I was never fat as shit, but I was heading.

[Adam Pally]

Heading that way.

[Stavi]

And my. Especially, like, my elevated cholesterol and stuff was, like, kind of dangerous.

[Adam Pally]

Sure.

[Stavi]

And my heart. My mother died young, and her father died really young.

[Adam Pally]

Gotcha.

[Stavi]

Same thing. And so my dad, who's a physician, was just, like. Who I think also has trauma from those deaths is like.

[Adam Pally]

No, that makes a lot more sense. Not just these, like, keep watch your weight, you fat pig. But he's like, I've lost my wife as a young man.

[Stavi]

Like. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

It's a lot about health overall.

[Stavi]

Yeah. My father was like, these are miracle drugs, right. That whether they are stopping you from eating, whether mentally.

[John Gabris]

They're.

[Adam Pally]

Whatever they're doing.

[Stavi]

Whatever they're doing, they are helping. They are helping people. Countless people. And with your genetic history, it's dangerous for you to be walking around Right. Without it. Right, right. You know, with the amount of. So I've been on.

[John Gabris]

I gotta get started on this.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Stavi]

So I've been on the lowest dose still.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[Stavi]

I just maintain the 0.25.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[Stavi]

Of WeGovy that I've been on now for, like, almost a year.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[Stavi]

And it's. It's good. I haven't seen, like, you know, crazy.

[Adam Pally]

Sure.

[Stavi]

Transformation. And I still. There are still nights where I, like, fucking get after it. It does hurt different in weird ways.

[John Gabris]

Do you suffer from when you overeat?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. That's what I'll say is like.

[John Gabris]

Cuz I. I also have that without. I wake up in the morning and I'm like, I ruined my morning.

[Adam Pally]

But no, dude.

[Stavi]

But it's different. It's different.

[Adam Pally]

Like when you have a night. Like what I'll say is, so right now I'm. I'm not. I've been struggling with this because I thought basically the same thing happened where I was like, I'm gonna re. Once this tour's done, I'm gonna rededicate myself and just like, like, weirdly, the drugs gave me the confidence to think I could continue to lose weight. Because I did on the tour. I was really super locked in. I was on the bus, I made. I had a lot of infrastructure because I was like, this is historically what kills me is like going on tour. I gained 40 pounds because it's just like awesome. I mean, it is the best.

[Stavi]

Yeah, of course. I mean it's.

[John Gabris]

You're going out for like several months.

[Adam Pally]

I was out for two and a half months. I had like a 10 day break in the middle, but I ended up doing. I had to like go back and do Mulaney's live show. Like that's another thing. It's like, I'm not. Not gonna do that.

[Stavi]

And also that's not home. You're going to la.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly.

[Stavi]

It's like.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Stavi]

It's more traveling.

[Adam Pally]

Totally. So it got. But I was losing weight and I was like, whoa, I can just do this with this drug is a miracle. I can live my normal life and lose weight and it just. That just turns out for me anyway. Is not true.

[Stavi]

No, it's not.

[Adam Pally]

Like I. Cause I did a movie after that and it's like they got snapped. Dude, there's a soft serve machine at lunch every day. Yeah, no, I'm not gonna have soft serve every day. Of course I'll pass. It's also. Yeah, yeah, it's a movie where I work in a kitchen.

[Stavi]

Yeah, right.

[Adam Pally]

How much food I am.

[Stavi]

Like, I'm. I'm getting Sovrose's past ice cream. He passed on it. But I have to get this every day.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, exactly. Hey, dude, I was eating so much. Good. Because we were working in the kitchen. I'm eating. I have unlimited access to seafood. I'm just a hop. I legit. Probably like 12 lobsters a day. That's not. I'm not. The first day I ate 12 lobsters.

[Stavi]

Yeah, it was Just.

[Adam Pally]

They're just there. I was just like, after every take. I eat a lot of working after that. It's not hard to eat a lobster.

[Stavi]

No. It's protein, first of all. I always look at that.

[Adam Pally]

I would always do that.

[Stavi]

A seafood tower. Like, the largest seafood tower at Mastros. The two of us. Yeah. It's protein.

[Adam Pally]

I'm with you, brother.

[Stavi]

I'm actually like, yo.

[Adam Pally]

I stand by that. I think if I had just eaten lobsters and not every dessert and every truck and every. Everything. Yeah. But so anyway, I was just able to maintain. Basically, what it's done is like, I cannot. I've just been at a plateau.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

When I would have been destroying myself. And I just feel. And the only times it really kicks in is when I really overdo it. And also, what's fucked up is I've learned the rhythms. I've learned, like, all right, as long as you fucking are really good. Day two for me, it's like, I need to be really good the first and second day of. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I guess day two and three. I have to be really good. And then you can kind of be a little like, the shot. I took the. I'm taking the shot today. Later today. And it was really kind of timed around our steak dinner last night. Cause I was like, the warden's away. This is when the warden's at the other end of the cell block.

[Stavi]

You know what I mean? Place it off. Because there is, like, a. It does feel like something. You're on the substance. Like something's going through you and preventing you from, like, going hard.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And then if you do go hard, if you. If you have the perseverance to go past it, Which I've done before.

[Stavi]

Me too.

[Adam Pally]

You are punished severely.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And it's not. Oh, it's like you feel like you have food poisoning.

[Stavi]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You feel like you're fucking throwing up or. Or if you're lucky, it's just the worst diarrhea you've ever had in your.

[Stavi]

Life, if you're lucky.

[Adam Pally]

With the worst gas of all time.

[Stavi]

If you're lucky. Because then there are other times when it's like you're burping up sul. Sulfur.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, the sulfur. I would rather kill myself.

[Stavi]

I. I just get off. I had to change medicines because for whatever reason, again, it's like I was doing really good. Really good. Really good. And then my lifestyle couldn't hack that medicine.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

And it was like, hell. I mean, you're. You're done.

[Adam Pally]

You're done for But I almost felt like. And this is where you get into the whole, like, punish. Internalized fat phobia punishing yourself. It feels like you're the guy in. Where. It's just like, yeah, you feel like Paul Benny. And you're like, I deserve this. I deserve sulfur breath. I deserve the worst. I'm a fat pig, and I deserve to be on the toilet for nine hours or whatever.

[John Gabris]

I mean, like, see, one of the main things. Sorry, One of the main things that. Do you hear myself?

[Stavi]

No, we just housed the same.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Gabris]

And I was like, I want to.

[Adam Pally]

You're on a nice little bender right now, dude. I respect that. It. When I left you last night, I was like, this guy's got to go do podcast in the morning.

[Stavi]

I had no idea.

[John Gabris]

They bought us shots last night.

[Adam Pally]

And I missed that.

[Stavi]

I was actually like, why didn't you call me? And then I realized what was going on. Like, can't have both of us out.

[Adam Pally]

No, this is a way.

[John Gabris]

I need you to pick up the slack. At 11am I did it. I snapped awake at 9am all the lights on in my hotel room and everything. That feeling where I'm like, did I miss everything?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Usually it is between us. It's whoever's in the other's hometown.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

It's because when you're in.

[Stavi]

Last week, I showed up that taping after I did Gimmel, I was like.

[John Gabris]

You were like this.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. The visitor. Yeah.

[Stavi]

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[Stavi]

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[John Gabris]

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[Stavi]

You don't have to list what's wrong with us. People can imagine.

[John Gabris]

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[John Gabris]

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[Stavi]

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[John Gabris]

But something you've said a few times that we talk about a lot but I can really relate to is this whole like, when I'm done with this, I will lock in. I can't lock in now. And the real answer is to be kinda locked in all the time.

[Adam Pally]

I know and I was really hoping and look, part of this also is I need to go to a better doctor. Like I knew when I was going, when I got I was going on tour that I was like, I felt the way things were trending. Part of me was hoping I would just this would. That's that that year off would fix me and I would be fine. But I didn't make, I made some progress, but I didn't make the amount of Progress. I wanted so kind of late in the game, I was like, I need a fucking. I need these drugs. I feel it. Like I was kind of holding off on some like, I can do it naturally shit, which, you know, I don't know why it took me that long. Cause it's like I don't fucking. I don't research drugs. I'll take drugs. I just take every drink.

[John Gabris]

I'm taking pills that I don't know who the guy who is is giving to me. And I don't know what it is at all.

[Adam Pally]

I smoked salvia as a child. Why is this the drug that I might live because of it. Why the fuck am I all of a sudden looking at double blind studies now?

[Stavi]

Well, now you're into some like, vaccine shit.

[Adam Pally]

No, totally, yeah, I took the vaccine. I don't give a fuck.

[Stavi]

Me too.

[John Gabris]

I think like the doing the research on Ozempic is like, we actually don't know what that is. Like, you're lying. I don't know what to do. We're lying to ourselves a little bit. Where I'm like, where I'm like, well, I don't know what that does. And it's like, you just don't want to go. The idea of like, I need the fat drug.

[Adam Pally]

And also there was part of it for me where it was like, I felt like, and this is like sort of more existential, where it was like I was making a lot of money and it was the kind of thing where you, when you make money, you make money for other people too. And I was like, I don't want to feel like I am injecting myself with fucking drugs to make my agents, to make Live Nation, to make, you know, advertisers. Like, I don't want to put a medicine in me. I don't basically want to be like livestock that you fucking pump full of steroids. So I make a juicier steak, right? Even though. So I. So you can pretend itself. Like, I don't want to be wearing like gog. I don't want to be a cow wearing goggles that look like I'm in a field when I'm actually in a fucking warehouse fucking, you know, packed next to cows. Like, I don't want to pump myself full of these drugs to generate income for other people at the expense of my health. And so I was like, I need to at least take a year off and see what that does and see if I really need these things. And it worked like a charm at first. And now unfortunately, I Feel like I have fallen into the trap that we are talking about where I was like, I think I'm just doing this to just be able to function right now, to stave off completely fucking up. And like I said, maybe I just need a better doctor because this could all be solved by going up in dose. Because like I just found a doctor, you know, he's a good guy, whatever, but it's like one of those.

[Stavi]

Is he insurance based? Like, is he.

[Adam Pally]

No, no, it's one of those guys where you just like. I had to just pay a guy out of pocket and you know, I'm not saying the guy will prescribe me anything I want, right? I'm not saying that. But I don't know. I haven't been den anything yet.

[John Gabris]

Like, I haven't asked for anything too crazy.

[Adam Pally]

And we did do a physical and all this and it was important and it was like one of those things where. And by the way, I'm acting like I had to pull strings to get prescribed these medications.

[John Gabris]

You act like you don't have the visible markers of it.

[Adam Pally]

I might be the dream candidate for these exact pill. You know what I mean?

[John Gabris]

Get. Getting a doctor that you trust and can talk to is fucking huge. And it's like something that I didn't do until I was in my late 30s. I was like, these guys.

[Stavi]

Totally.

[John Gabris]

Then you get one and you're like, wow, this is actually helpful.

[Adam Pally]

And you're also like, I also feel like getting fatty shit. It's like a very cowardly way to commit suicide where you're just like. You're like, look, I'm never gonna pull the trigger, but I'll eat an extra slice every day.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Until I die early. Yeah.

[Stavi]

Chinese water torture.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, exactly.

[John Gabris]

General so's torture.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Well, then you start being in your late 30s, you're like, wait, I guess I want to live.

[Stavi]

You said something interesting though, which is because I feel like a lot of people that we've talked to and you said this too, is like, there's a fear of what if lose your like joie de V or whatever. Which is like, you know, like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'm not worried about that at all actually.

[Stavi]

That's interesting.

[Adam Pally]

Not at all. I don't think that defines me. I really don't. I mean, in fact, it's like, that's powerful. I would love to. To prove that I can do it. Like, I think my whole life has been. Everything is like, you don't think I could do this, right? Everything. Like I. The chip, the. The like the, like, you know, the Jordan having to like the greatest of all time. Not that I'm Michael Jordan of anything, but like, I saw that and I was like, I get having to make up reasons to get yourself up. Because a lot of my career is spiked. A lot of it is like, you know. Cause I got off Cometown and it was a funny show and we had fun time doing it. But, like, nobody knew I did stand up. They thought I was like the like, guy who was good at setting up. Mullen's one of the funniest riffing podcast guys of all time. And we had a great back and forth, forth. But a lot of people, like, you're a great podcast sidekick.

[John Gabris]

You're a funny third of this thing.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly.

[Stavi]

Yeah. You're like the bald guy with Rory.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly. Totally. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But like, and like, I. I'm a generous laugh for people. Like, well, you can, you can riff. Okay. But it's real. You're just providing a laugh track. Right? And then I was like, no, I'm a stand up comic. And so I went out and I started becoming a headlining comic while cometown was going on. And then. But then even that people were like, you know, okay, you're just touring off that shit. So then I put out my own. I tried to get a Netflix special. I tried to get a. Whatever. No one was interested in a special. I put out my own special. I was like, I can do a special that does numbers. It did really well. Right? Like, then it was like, I. I just put out these crowd work clips. Cause I was like, I need to have my own identity.

[Stavi]

That's where I feel like every step was like, your crowd work was like the best. Because it was deeper than, you know, I tried to. Yeah, it was, it was. It just like. And crowd work is so hard. Yours had a deeper way about it. And that's how I feel like I first came to know you.

[Adam Pally]

I appreciate it. Yeah, I tried to do that. And that was part of it was I was like, I was like, I can build a fucking. I can build an online following on my own. Watch this shit. And now I feel like I'm at the point where people are like, you're really good at crowd work. And now I'm working on this. What's fueling me now is like, I'm working on my third hour and I'm like, I want to show you that I can write really good fucking jokes with no crowd work. And so I think the ultimate bit chip on the shoulder thing for Me would be like, I'll lose weight. I'll still be fine. Yeah. And by the way, who the are we kidding? Am I gonna weigh 160 ever in my life? That's what I want to weigh. 200 pounds, which is still fat.

[John Gabris]

That's what I'm saying. My goal weight is still a bmi. That would make me uninsured.

[Adam Pally]

I want bouncer body.

[Stavi]

I weigh 200 pounds.

[John Gabris]

I can't weigh 200. I weigh 308 now. 250 would be awesome.

[Stavi]

And you're tall too big, dude.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'm five seven, dude. If I weighed, I would have loved to weigh two. Like, I weigh 285 ish right now. 250 would be a chain, a huge sea change. If I got to like 200. 220. The dream, dude. I've never been under 220. Like, as an adult. Like, I remember being in 220 and being like, I'm skinny. I can wear XL. I was like.

[John Gabris]

I was like 2:30 senior year of high school, and then 200 freshman year of college. I, like, lost all my weight that summer and I went away to school.

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[John Gabris]

And had a completely different life than I had in high school.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And then I just put on £10 a year till.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah. Ongoing.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stavi]

We think. We think next year, we think he'll be at the way.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it'll be ten pounds. Ten pounds. Ten pounds. And it'll all drop really, really quick.

[Stavi]

You dropped it really quick.

[John Gabris]

The casket weighs 11.

[Adam Pally]

But you guys are afraid of that? Is that what you're saying? Are you both? No, no, no.

[John Gabris]

I'm not really afraid of that. Because I don't think.

[Stavi]

But there are people, there are comics that like. But, like, hold on to the sense that, like, I think it's drug addicts. To any addict personality, it's like, well.

[Adam Pally]

Depressive people will be like that too. I don't wanna go to therapy because what makes me funny is being depressed. And I just don't feel that's the case even physically. And look, sometimes people really play up certain stuff and it's like, yeah, a lot of my jokes are fat jokes. Cause that's what my life is. And that's. That's been the central struggle of my fucking life since I was a kid. Right. Like, that's everything else that everybody thinks about. About relationships, family stuff, whatever. It's like, you're not really aware of that stuff until you're an adult. When you're a kid, like, food issues are the things that are with you from the moment you're a sentient being. Right. If those are your problems, right. Other people are like. Like, you talk to people who are like coke addicts, drug addicts, whatever, alcoholics. They're. They have beautiful like all American childhoods until that first drop is. And it changed. They're the werewolves. I've been this guy. I've been fat. I've been thinking about being fat since I can remember.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I've been being called fat by strangers since 1988.

[Adam Pally]

And like, sure. Will that. Because of that, will it always affect. Even if I lose weight or get to a healthy spot, will it affect the way I think? Sure. Right. Like this just. I've been forged in this situation, but it's not. It's. At the end of the day, it's not who you are. And I do think people fall into that. And I definitely did when I was younger.

[John Gabris]

Younger.

[Adam Pally]

When you're younger, you know, basically doing like fat minstrelly.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, being like, I'll show. Oh, I'll chug some parmesan. Like, you know what I mean?

[John Gabris]

I was like a fat, like, ate a snake. Exact snake shirt off at every party. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

Like cannonballs.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Truffle shuffle. When you learn, dude. Huge dude.

[John Gabris]

I got bullied by my friend's older brother who made me do the truffle shuffle in front of like him and his girlfriends. And I was like 13 and they were all like 18. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

But I don't know, I think, like, that's just doesn't. You shouldn't allow yourself to be defined by those things. And I'm not worried about that at all.

[John Gabris]

Again, it's another excuse. It's like another thing of like, well, if I need this, I actually can't lose weight because it's important to my career, right? I hear myself saying that about my phone where I'm like, I know I'm like addicted to Instagram, but I actually need it for my career, right? And if you follow me, I do not do anything career wise on Instagram. I repost stuff that smart list puts up and I look at chicks breast.

[Adam Pally]

Course you look at fat titties. And I'm like, you know, work dude. You can't take this.

[John Gabris]

Like, it's like the comp, like, and you know it. Like, I used to think I had to have a couple of drinks when I did comedy. I used to, like, I used to think I had to be fat to be Funny, I used to think this.

[Adam Pally]

I used.

[John Gabris]

And it's all just so I can justify my own bad choices, like, keep up the behavior I want to do.

[Adam Pally]

Of course. Of course.

[John Gabris]

I'm like, dude, if I all sudden was, like, sober and didn't smoke weed, people wouldn't even, like, know how to deal with it, right? And I'm like, what are you talking about?

[Adam Pally]

Which is crazy because, dude, I really don't. I really feel like my vices are killing me every day. And I. It's. I. I'm like, I would be so much better off. I just can't stop. You know what I mean? Like, that is my feeling. Like, I've never worried about that. It's crazy. I don't know why. I just, like, you know.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I can't.

[Adam Pally]

I never drank too much real.

[John Gabris]

Shit.

[Adam Pally]

What's that?

[Stavi]

Too much real? Like, yeah, like, sometimes introspection is staved off by, like, actual survival. Sure, maybe, you know, like, so it's like, too much real in your life to be, like, sitting around being like, am I gonna still be the same stuff after I lose all this weight? It's like, I'm just trying not to die tomorrow.

[John Gabris]

Totally.

[Adam Pally]

I guess that's true. And it just feels. I mean, the way it feels. It's a burden. It's a. It's a foe. Like, it doesn't feel I'm at any.

[John Gabris]

Way, dude, where I'm like, Friday morning back in la, I went out. I ate late Thursday night. Like, I. And I did not eat healthy. And I ate, like, at 1:00am yeah. And I had, like, lane time booked at the pool. I'm trying to get back in the pool and train. I have all these plans and I was just rock.

[Adam Pally]

Time to ogle the single mothers that.

[John Gabris]

Take their kids there. I can wear my snorkel in the aquarobics.

[Stavi]

To be fair, the photos he sends me are up when the fence is in them. Yeah. I like it when he's inside.

[Adam Pally]

Over.

[John Gabris]

The top of the bathroom stall.

[Stavi]

Meta, take a picture. Meta, take a picture.

[Adam Pally]

Sorry, sorry. You were making a good point. I just had to interrupt you.

[John Gabris]

No, no, no, no, Please.

[Adam Pally]

What? It's about sexual harassment.

[Stavi]

But.

[John Gabris]

But I fucked myself up and I felt like shit in the morning and I didn't do any. And I go. And I literally had that moment where I'm, like, looking at myself in the mirror. I'm like, you wanted to do this this morning and you made the choice. And while I was doing it the night before, I knew, like, I Was like out of body experience. Course I'm just eating the quesadilla and I'm like this, you're, you don't even want this and you can't stop. And it's like I need it to feel good right now. And it's like, and I don't know what that is. And on this time it really broke me. Like I was, I like cried the next morning. I was like really upset with myself cuz I was like, I know. Such a, I cried the next morning because I didn't get to look at the little ladies bouncing around.

[Stavi]

Just glad you didn't assassinate Harvey Milk.

[Adam Pally]

No, sorry, sorry. I have, I just am less in touch with, I have the exact same feelings, but I just completely ignore them and let them pile up.

[John Gabris]

Well, I, I, I didn't do anything actionable about it, but I was just like crying to myself going like, you just keep, all you talk about is how you want to lose weight and then you just do not do it. And, and it's not even like I, I, I go and I exercise and I lift weights and I do all that right. Stuff and then it's just like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

The second the sun goes down, I'm just like, this is the. I, I, I'm like a vampire for.

[Adam Pally]

I know.

[John Gabris]

Melted cheese.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that's what's scaring me is that like about now feeling like the drug is just making it so that I stay, that I'm just, I keep chugging and don't gain weight because I have felt it where there's times where I'm like, no, I'm feeling the effects of the drug. It's late at night and I am overpowered. I'm just, it has started finally where I'm like, I don't give a fuck that this is help. Like if I was locked in this little bit of. Do you really need to eat that? My body's feeling would be enough for me to go like, no, I don't, I'm going.

[Stavi]

And some would say that's when you turn up the dose.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Because it's like the, the volume is lower.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

And your body's getting attuned. Yeah. Like I have another friend who's on it who was on it for a long time and, and basically trained themselves to like get to a place where they don't need that high a dosage anymore.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that's what I'm, yeah, that's what I'm hoping.

[Stavi]

But that, but that, but still, when I like talk to her about it she's like, well, yeah, but I still like, like, like up. And then I feel like for two weeks because it's like worse than any food poisoning and I have to take the shot. It's like, sure. So it's like that. I think, I think that is the point where you're like, it's still. You're still gonna have to do it yourself. Which is what I hate about all those people that are like, do it the regular way. It's like, this is the regular. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Even when I am, I feel that way about steroids too.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Which I would also love to do.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, you're. You're the most gonna do steroids guy I've ever met in my life. Is everything's been to you being able.

[Stavi]

To do steroids sell the rights before we get it.

[Adam Pally]

That should be no problem for your heart.

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[John Gabris]

Should I?

[Stavi]

The insurance has been the tough part of negotiations.

[John Gabris]

I don't want to do zepbound, but I have done my research on trend. Imagine telling, like telling my doctor who wants to put me on zepound. I'm like, can you put me on testosterone instead? That's like straight up what I did.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

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[Adam Pally]

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[John Gabris]

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[John Gabris]

And so I, I, I, like, truly, I'm like, want to talk to my. I'm like, I need to. I'm clearly.

[Adam Pally]

Can I be.

[John Gabris]

This is, like, out of my control.

[Adam Pally]

I know, and I agree. But here's the thing. The real deal answer is it is out of your control right now. It's testosterone, but your life. And I feel the same way. It's basically the thing I'm trying to get through my own head is like. Like, I did just do it, like, last year, I did get my habits in order. I just had to stop working as much. I had to just, like, be comfortable making less money. Right? Like, I'm living lavish. You know what I mean? Like, I'd be. I just have to cut back on that shit. I got sober. Sober was huge, right?

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And for me, too. That's the other thing weed has. Every time I re. Every time I'm like, well, maybe this time it'll work. Completely fucks everything up.

[John Gabris]

No, every time I'm talking about when I'm eating is like, I'm baked out of my fucking mind, too. It's like, that's so obviously causing me to make these bad choices, too.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, of course. And the thing I keep trying to tell myself is, like, dude, if you broke your leg, you wouldn't, like, hobble on it and try and. And fix it while it's. He, like, you wouldn't try and, like, you know, and you. If you broke your leg and you were training for a 5k, you wouldn't jog on a broken leg. You would wait till your leg got better. And I think I need. I think especially people who struggle this much with food need to realize, like, your brain is right now. Now you need to fix that, get your habits in order, and then slowly get back into it. If looking at it like an injury, I think would help. And I think that's what's going on. Like, I have really, really damaged my willpower, and I need to take time off to fucking heal it. Will that happen? You know what I mean? Like, will I keep doing the fucking Will I just hope to stay at, like, you know, even until I get a chance, and I'll have a little time off in December, but then, honestly, like, not that much. I'm just scared. Yeah. Something, something that also we we're and you. If you took some time and just like with your workouts, if you took a week, didn't smoke weed and was like, I had a friend with you until you went to bed to make sure you didn't.

[Stavi]

Seems like you guys got to move in with each other.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I mean that could go. That's high risk, high reward.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I know.

[Adam Pally]

If we, well, the second we break through, talk about content.

[Stavi]

I need cameras in every room. I do have an idea.

[John Gabris]

We'd be on scruff.

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[John Gabris]

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[Adam Pally]

That is true. That is true. We'd have twinks trying to give us mozzarella sticks to get to get inside. Some bear chasers would be like, boys, we have chicken cheese steaks.

[Stavi]

Come back with beef.

[John Gabris]

Three weeks ago. Three weeks.

[Adam Pally]

Put on some rouge and come back with beef. Put on a red lip and then I wanna.

[Stavi]

With no peppers running through the garden.

[John Gabris]

I love you.

[Stavi]

I love you.

[John Gabris]

I took like four, four nights off smoking weed. I did not eat a whole another meal. Every one of those nights I woke up feeling better than I've ever felt. And I'm like, okay.

[Adam Pally]

This is one.

[John Gabris]

Of the most dive right back into the.

[Adam Pally]

I mean this is one of the most clear answers I know in the history of the world.

[John Gabris]

And you want to talk about making excuses? My brain right now is like, why wait? You need to come up with a reason.

[Stavi]

Have they found a weed that's not. I mean I, I, Because I, I, I honestly I vibe as much as you. Yeah. But I'm all, I've always. That's never been a problem. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, it's crazy to me.

[Stavi]

It's just luck. Luck of the draw. Like some people. It really is like the nar.

[Adam Pally]

Like, but I also, also, I also wonder if it's a little like you remember when you were in college and you were like, I'll say anything when I'm drunk. And it was just. You were a coward sober and you got drunk and you acted the way you really wanted to act.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Part of me thinks that's what it is. Is that like.

[John Gabris]

Well, certainly like, it just gives your.

[Adam Pally]

Brain the like green light. Wow, I'm. What can I do?

[John Gabris]

Like, look, I like look to going like, oh, I'm gonna get good food tonight. And I'm like, I should get super high before I get. And then I now I like using the weed as part of what the, the eating. Not just chill and be hot.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

But just to be like, yeah, I'm Gonna get high and have. That's my plans for the night. I feel like it's not even about, like, picking out a movie.

[Adam Pally]

No, no.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

But I still. But I do that too. I mean, I still do that too. I feel like I was just able. Because I gained a lot of weight when I was younger and was like, noticing, oh, well, I'm smoking weed and eating late.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

And I was like, very, very early on. Like, you know, it'll stop that. Eating late.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Stavi]

And then it was just like, okay, that's what I do. Like, I just, like, try not to. Then when you start drinking, when you're. When you're like, in New York struggling as a comic, then I gained weight again.

[Adam Pally]

Yep.

[Stavi]

And then that was harder because it's like, I'm not going to cut out alcohol. Like, I need that to even talk to these people, you know, that's the.

[John Gabris]

Only reward I have for doing improv shows for free.

[Stavi]

Exactly.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Pay for 10 beers.

[Stavi]

Yeah. So you like. So then that's the struggle. Then you have to cut down on that and then you're in. And it's just constantly this, like, negotiation of how to get through the day.

[John Gabris]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

Totally fucked.

[Stavi]

And that's. And that's just. That's just unfortunately, like, fucking time.

[John Gabris]

I really have to. I need to change my relationship with food and cannabis. Two separate fights. I wish. I wish I could smoke weed the way I used, like, used to drink where it's like two nights a week I get high and then like, forward to it and it's.

[Adam Pally]

It's over. You had a nice run.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I know.

[Stavi]

I mean, one of the best. Like a legendary.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really. I am just going back to. I think I need to just be fully sober again because it just. It really helped and it just didn't like. And it's really just health. Like, it's not even the substances, especially booze. Like, for me, I was never like, it's fun to drink, but it was never my issue. Weed definitely was worse. But I just think because of my willpower is so. Is really the problem. I can't have anything assisting taking out the wheel. Exactly.

[John Gabris]

I feel you on this.

[Adam Pally]

And I kind of think. I hate to say it, I think you need to go completely. You just need to go off weed fully for an extended period of time.

[John Gabris]

I think I do.

[Adam Pally]

To, like and to have it on the table is like, who knows? But to just be like, I could never smoke weed again as a possibility. And it's Hard for me too. Cause I'm less of a potted than you. And the idea that I would never smoke weed again scares me.

[John Gabris]

The idea of saying never again.

[Stavi]

I think that's the feeling I had when I first started.

[John Gabris]

Okay, that's.

[Adam Pally]

That's fair.

[Stavi]

Because I was like, I was sad.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I would, like, oh, interesting.

[Stavi]

You know, like, you'd.

[John Gabris]

You'd be like, well, this is a.

[Stavi]

Time of day where I would.

[Adam Pally]

That makes sense.

[Stavi]

Like, enjoy my. Or like, what am I gonna order tonight? You know? And that's an enjoy. Enjoyable thing. Scrolling. And you're like, oh, here's my comfort meal. You know, like this. This place or whatever, you know, and then that goes away when you start the medicine because. Because you don't feel good. You're like. You kind of walk around with like a stomach ache for like three months.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. But I will say it's like, I. This makes sense to me because it feels like you're with food how I'm with weed, where it's a problem, but it's not my main problem.

[Stavi]

Yeah. Oh, I got a lot of other problems.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, like, it's the way, like, dude, I. I can look forward to what I'm ordering with a stomachache. It's like when a drunk. A drunk get. I remember thinking, like, how do alcoholics drink get that on when they're hungover?

[Stavi]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

I remember thinking that. And then. And then one day I was like, taking Pepto Bismol and ordering pizza and wings and I was like, oh, this is how. Yeah, like I'm doing my version of it right now.

[Stavi]

Well, of course.

[John Gabris]

I just finished Blood. Let me order. That's like a Saturday afternoon.

[Stavi]

You remember where you were the first time you ship blood Like, I do. I remember where I was.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I was at the SiriusXM studios. Oh, you said the most recent time.

[Stavi]

No.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, it was about three hours for me. Yeah. Actually maybe 15 minutes ago. I got to check my drawers.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

Commit to those white ones.

[John Gabris]

Why did I buy these white underwear?

[Stavi]

That's why all my drawers are burgundy.

[Adam Pally]

No. Very smart. Smart.

[John Gabris]

That was like my dad's go to joke in the back in. Back in the day. J's underwear is yellow in the front. Brad in the back, so he doesn't have to worry about anything. I'm like, thanks.

[Stavi]

Where am I. Where am I getting these rotten banana colored underwear?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, that would be good. That's smart.

[John Gabris]

Oh, I have to quit smoking weed.

[Adam Pally]

I can't believe you actually do. Dude, it sucks.

[John Gabris]

I'll start when I get back to la.

[Adam Pally]

Right now, let's go smoke weed out. Smoke weed? Yeah.

[Stavi]

I mean. I mean, I'm a smoke weed. As soon as this light goes off, I am tired.

[Adam Pally]

I smoked weed yesterday and it was a mistake.

[John Gabris]

I screamed about this earlier, but I was just. We were standing outside the tiki bar at 2:30 in the morning. Like, I'm like, I got to smoke this. I'm wasted. I'm like, I should probably smoke this joint before I head home for sure.

[Stavi]

And I'm like, oh, okay, that's good enough.

[John Gabris]

And then I turn and Lisa Trager is just walking down the street. She's like, Gabriel's a.

[Adam Pally]

She could sense someone was giving away.

[John Gabris]

Weed she was going to smoke.

[Stavi]

She might have been in Brooklyn. But when you were like, I got to smoke this joint. There's no one around, around.

[John Gabris]

She like got like transported, like quantum light.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

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[Stavi]

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[Adam Pally]

Oh boy. Another. Yeah.

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[Adam Pally]

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[Stavi]

Is there anything you want to. You want to plug? I mean, we, we. We're so thankful that you're here.

[Adam Pally]

Totally. We should be plugging Stavi's World. Ob Stavi's World. I'm about to. I don't know when this comes out.

[John Gabris]

Neither do we.

[Adam Pally]

Okay, great. Probably. I have announced the next tour dates. Like, you know, I have a couple coming up that are already announced. Memphis still has some tickets left. Boston has some tickets left at the Wilbur. And I'm announcing like a whole slew of like January, January, February, March, April. I'm going to be on the road. Not as much.

[John Gabris]

February, March, April, May.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Stavi]

What's your favorite place to play besides, like. I mean. Because I don't. Some people don't like to play. New York, la, Like, what's your favorite?

[Adam Pally]

I like New York and la. I mean, honestly, it's really. It's kind of chalk. It's like Chicago's fucking awesome.

[Stavi]

Chicago's always very welcoming to a comedian.

[Adam Pally]

Great. Great. I mean, I've had. And I've done every. I've done every level of show at Chicago from like the absolute struggling to get 30 people to come see you to like, I did the Chicago theater last time and like, hell yeah. And it's always been incredible at every, at every level. I don't. I mean, to be honest with you, I just. As long as the building is good. I fucking love performing, everybody because. And we even. I'm doing some shittier markets too. Cause like, the big ones are, look, big cities. I'm a big city guy. More people come out. The theaters are usually cooler, like, slightly better restaurant choices.

[Stavi]

Yeah, it's tough to get a good hotel in a city.

[Adam Pally]

The good hotel is a good. Yeah, it's a good point. But I ultimately love performing. I mean, everywhere has its own little challenges. Like, you know, we fucking did well on an off night. We did like, like a. A weird music venue in the Fville, Arkansas like, suburbs. This last tour, like, we're doing. We're doing a bunch of like, on off nights between the big cities. I like playing. I like just playing everywhere because also people are fucking thankful when you go to their dog shit city. They're like, nobody comes here. Yeah. And I just, you know, I just love doing comedy in every potential situation. But yeah, man, I love. I've always had a great time in Boston. Like, I used to open for Bobby Kelly. That's one of the places I would go early as a comic, you know, opening for him at Laugh Boston or, you know, the theaters he was playing. Tom Papa would take me on the road and we would do like, you know, I was in New England a lot, but. And I also love the Pacific Northwest. Like, I always get along great crowds. Seattle and Portland, I love, always had a great time.

[Stavi]

And now Portland's gonna be cleaned up.

[Adam Pally]

Thank God.

[John Gabris]

Portland's a war zone. If you go, please write me letters and put them in a history book.

[Adam Pally]

My dearest Gabrius, I saw a nude.

[John Gabris]

Man on a bicy. I think. I don't know what side of the war he was on.

[Adam Pally]

But yeah, check out Stop His World. Please check out the buy tickets. Go see Begonia. They don't need me to plug it, but it would be cool.

[Stavi]

If you think you're gonna do like awards circuit stuff.

[Adam Pally]

I don't. I mean, hopefully the movie gets nominated for a bunch of shit so that.

[John Gabris]

I get to go at the parties.

[Adam Pally]

But no, I don't think I'm on the short list for supporting actor nominations.

[Stavi]

You don't even need that. Like, if the movie is in the zeitge, then you're like in all that getting to go and all that stuff. That's fine.

[Adam Pally]

I would love to, dude.

[John Gabris]

I mean, you went to Venice, right?

[Adam Pally]

I did go to Venice. Crazy, dude.

[Stavi]

Was it fun?

[Adam Pally]

It was completely surreal.

[Stavi]

Did the movie get a good standing ovation? That's like Venice's.

[Adam Pally]

We got a standing ovation. I feel like if we wanted to milk it, we could have milked it, but people had too much.

[Stavi]

Actors have power over it.

[Adam Pally]

For sure.

[Stavi]

How? Like, in what way?

[Adam Pally]

Like, people would. Would clap until you sat. Dude. Yeah, I mean, like, I think if.

[John Gabris]

Fucking Yorgos went like, okay, okay, okay.

[Adam Pally]

But we just left, like. I think they were like. They were like, all right, this is enough. And they left like they were still clapping, right? Whereas, like, I feel like some motherfucker. Look, I don't want to name anybody. Maybe there's a viral clip of him crying, right?

[Stavi]

Yeah, but he took his time.

[Adam Pally]

He took his time. Look, no one like a true. Here's the thing. A true performer. The Rock knows how to fucking. To make an audience do whatever he wants.

[Stavi]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

Right. He could extend to that. I bet you he could have gone 20 minutes. Cause he's a fucking show. Yeah. To his bones, he's a showman.

[Stavi]

And I think it would have equaled a million at the box.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I'm excited to see it, actually.

[John Gabris]

I do watch.

[Stavi]

Me too. I can't wait.

[Adam Pally]

I was trying to see it there, but it's really. It's actually way harder than you think to. I thought, oh, I'm at the festival. I get to see movies. But it's like, no, they bunch of fucking old Italians don't even really give a fuck. It's either like, random Italians or, like, you know, Journal Film.

[John Gabris]

Tahoe.

[Stavi]

Even, like, Tahoe feels like a fancy crowd to me, where it's like the head of the Hollywood Reporter mixed with like, a billionaire who. Who's in charge of even south by Southwest.

[John Gabris]

It's, like, hard to go and see movies. And it's like, exclusively south by Southwest.

[Stavi]

It's hard to move.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Hard to walk around south by Southwest. I can't wait to see Begonia and then clap and be.

[Adam Pally]

It's good. It's fucking awesome. I mean, Jesse Plemons and Emma Stone are, like, incredible.

[John Gabris]

They're two of the best.

[Adam Pally]

And, you know, I'm a huge Yorgos guy and, like, it's. It was truly surreal to be. I still don't really get.

[Stavi]

Did you get to improvise?

[Adam Pally]

No, no, no.

[Stavi]

It was. To the word.

[Adam Pally]

It was. I mean, there were some times actually where we had to change some stuff and they asked my. Like, I got to pick the new lines or whatever or like, just minor changes. They. They kind of, I guess, respected what I wanted to do with the character. But it was like, you know, it was pretty like, it was. It was like, really. I mean, the script. Shout out to Will Tracy. He's. He was a. He's a writer for Succession.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And he. He Co wrote the menu as well.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. With my buddy Seth Reese.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, really?

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Will, that script was fucking. Because I'm a big. I love Lanthimos. And like. Like, the closest I got to watching the movie for the first time was when I watched the script, where I read the script because, like, there's some. There's. The plot is. It's a really, like. It's like a propulsive thriller. It's like the. The. The performances are incredible, but it's like. There's some cool, like, little twists and turns that you're like. There are moments where you're like, what the fuck? And I got to experience that, reading it, not seeing it. And so, like, for me, the screenplay was way more the initial experience of the story, and it was one of the best scripts I've. I've ever read. So it was like, you. You. You get a great script and you're like, I actually don't need to change.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

If something's a little wordy. And, like, Will was there for some of it, and he was cool as fuck. But I also felt like I don't fucking belong here. I'm not improvising. I just don't want to embarrass myself.

[John Gabris]

You didn't think it was bad. It's not like you were like.

[Stavi]

You know what I mean?

[John Gabris]

You liked it, so it's a little easier to. To be like, yeah, I'll do it as is, because it's cool, of course.

[Adam Pally]

And also, like, dude, it's my first. Like, I did one day on a, like, HBO Max romantic comedy where I'm a weird guy on a bus that accosts Kieran and Shipka. You know what I mean? Like. Like, that's the. That was my other entire career.

[John Gabris]

Seven of those over 10 years.

[Adam Pally]

And so to go from that to like, one of the best directors with more of my scenes are, you know, with incredible and incredible actors. Actor. It's like, I'm not taking any liberties here. Yes, sir. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm a special teams player here.

[John Gabris]

You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

I stay in my life. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But, yeah, it was sick. And the movie's awesome.

[John Gabris]

I can't wait. That's so awesome. I mean, I would be so pumped to see it.

[Adam Pally]

Had me too friend in it. Me too. I remember thinking that I was like, I want to see this movie. So it's really good. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Well, congrats on everything, Sty.

[Adam Pally]

Thanks, guys.

[Stavi]

Thank you again.

[Adam Pally]

Thanks for asking me.

[Stavi]

This is a.

[Adam Pally]

This is so fun.

[John Gabris]

Man, we. We completed. I. I appreciate you. We completed the fat guy group chat. Zach, Cherry, Mike, Mitchell and Stavi.

[Stavi]

Now, it's impressive that we got that chat.

[John Gabris]

Everyone's here, dude. We did it.

[Stavi]

You got them all.

[John Gabris]

And Stavi has such a fucking interesting take on willpower and his weight and shit like that.

[Adam Pally]

It was.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, he's really, really clearly thought about it, obviously, which is.

[Stavi]

Which is all that you like want to hear from someone like that. That's like, you know, because. Because another thing is like his, his work, like he was saying, he. His work is about his weight. His content is about his. His journey. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

His.

[Stavi]

His struggle, all that stuff. So like to talk to him about it is on brand. It's not like we're so. I feel like it's nice to hear what someone like that who thinks about it all the time with how they really feel.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. And someone who's fucking funny too. Yeah.

[Stavi]

It doesn't hurt things like the funniest person on the planet. I know.

[John Gabris]

Nice to hear from him.

[Stavi]

Yeah. He is so funny and so quick.

[John Gabris]

My God, it's crazy. And I gifted. I'm wondering. I'm gonna have to take some time off weed after I get back. When I go home, I think I'm going to try it.

[Stavi]

Hey, man, whatever is good for you, dude.

[John Gabris]

I know. I'm going to try it. I can't believe it.

[Stavi]

Stop peer pressuring.

[John Gabris]

I'm not. I don't want you.

[Stavi]

I don't.

[John Gabris]

I don't want to be around you that you not smoking weed. I'm terrified.

[Stavi]

I feel like now I have to do it so that people don't think that I'm like a maniac.

[John Gabris]

I feel like you have to like break. Come down to a human level.

[Stavi]

Yeah, for sure. Because I feel like people are like, oh, God. Make sure Adam has a spinach.

[John Gabris]

Valley was fucking wired yesterday. No, he just was not hot.

[Stavi]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Manic yesterday. No, he stopped smoking weed for four hours.

[Stavi]

Me not high is like hedge funder on cocaine.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, right. We're losing, losing money.

[Stavi]

Sell, sell, sell.

[John Gabris]

We can't keep selling.

[Stavi]

We have nothing to buy. Say alive. Oh, shit. I didn't mean to lose like that. We're gonna have to get a new mic for Sirius.

[Adam Pally]

Oof.

[John Gabris]

You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pali. A Smartless Media production in association with.

[Stavi]

Sirius XM Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music associate producer.

[John Gabris]

And video producer is Matty McCann, social media producer Tommy Galgano, assistant engineer Kyle McGraw.

[Stavi]

Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[John Gabris]

Executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh me. Adam Pally. Ooh, you. Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hannah Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminsky. Do us a favor, just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Stavi]

Just so everyone knows we do not.

[John Gabris]

Have a discord, don't reach out to.

[Stavi]

Us, see us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.

[John Gabris]

We used to go to Taco Bell for lunch at in school in high school when we were allowed to leave campus and my buddy bought the sour cream gun off of one of the workers for 40 the sour cream caulking gun and like and we he would just.

[Adam Pally]

So.

[John Gabris]

It was so disgusting.

[Stavi]

What a great thing to have in your fridge.

[Adam Pally]

Respect to that employee. He was like, yeah, I don't give a yeah.

[John Gabris]

He's like, Yeah, I take 40 bucks. We lost one.

[Stavi]

Yeah, I threw it out by accident.

[John Gabris]

Right, Exactly. Corporate needs to order another.

[Adam Pally]

Smart Bless media.

[John Gabris]

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