A Whole Lotta Maybes (w/ Alison Leiby)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

Episode: "A Whole Lotta Maybes" (with Alison Leiby)
Air Date: February 12, 2026
Guest: Alison Leiby
Network: SmartLess Media

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Episode Overview

In this episode, comedians Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally welcome their longtime friend, stand-up comic and writer Alison Leiby, for an honest, riotously funny, and surprisingly candid discussion about adulthood, health, self-care, and how they’re all just "barely staying alive." The trio delve into the absurdity of modern wellness, their approaches to fitness and self-preservation, aging, the mental load of adulthood, and why sometimes, doing the bare minimum is enough.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Wellness and Existential Dread

• The hosts open the episode with jokes about their surprise at still being alive, setting a darkly comedic but relatable tone for the conversation.
• The phrase "hanging off the metaphorical cliff of health" (00:19) frames the episode’s underlying theme: trying (sometimes halfheartedly) to be healthy amidst chaos, stress, and constant existential threats.
• Alison admits her main motivation for staying alive is caring for her cat:

  "I'm skating by on the thinnest of ice... I think I'm staying alive for the cat." (07:43 – Alison Leiby)

• Discussion on the daily barrage of doomsday news stories, like asteroid threats, bird flu, and nuclear war, and their numbing effect on motivation.

2. Interests and Identity as You Age

• The group laments how adult interests can become sources of self-loathing or shame, especially when seeing others in the same subculture (e.g., adults obsessed with Disneyland, video game communities).

• "Everything in my life, the people who also like it, ruin it for me." (03:16 – Jon Gabrus)

• They joke about middle-aged activities and the realization that any passion or hobby can turn "pathetic" as one grows older.

3. Medication, Therapy & Tricks for Staying Functional

• Candid sharing of their daily medication routines, mostly for blood pressure, and the often embarrassing side effects (e.g., urgent need to urinate, nearly fainting).

  > "The urgency is so bananas…you go to the toilet and you're like, dink. And they're like, 'Alright, that's everything.'" (13:16 – Jon Gabrus)
  

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  "The amount of medicine I take to live is ridiculous…just to function in the real world." (12:49 – Adam Pally)

• Alison swears by dunking her face in ice water every morning, a practice picked up via TikTok for an energizing, urban "ice bath."

  > "It feels so good…I'm so mad I didn't do it my whole life." (14:52 – Alison Leiby)
  

• The group agrees that small rituals—even if placebo—help create a sense of control or "positive momentum."

4. Swimming as Therapy and Fitness

• The conversation dives deep into the joys and challenges of swimming as adults, particularly in urban public pools, and how it serves as both a workout and a form of meditation.
  • Alison and Jon recount their own swim sessions together, boasting about the "sensory deprivation" aspect and freedom from technology.

    "Swimming is accidentally or unintentionally sensory deprivation... It's amazing, my favorite hour of the day." (26:23 – Jon Gabrus & Alison Leiby)

  • The complexity and annoyance of "circle swimming" (a lane-sharing technique) ignites passionate debate and shared strategies.

5. Alone Time, Technology, and Escapism

• The importance of intentional solitude, especially for people with demanding household or (freelance) work lives.

  > "Dedicating time to be alone, I think is important. Quiet time." (39:57 – Jon Gabrus)
  

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  "I can't be alone because I have my phone...and I'm on it so much because I want to get away from the people." (38:43 – Adam Pally)

• Collective confession about phone addiction, the algorithm's relentless intrusion (mostly with "titties, no matter what I do"), and the desire to limit usage—even joking about downgrading their phones for "less tempting" screen experiences (40:20).

6. Modern Attention and Media Overload

• They lament the loss of nuance in contemporary movies, TV, and digital content, noting everything is either pure comfort/escapism or lacks subtlety.

  > "All the movies...had zero subtlety in them." (44:00 – Adam Pally)  
  > "I've stopped learning anything." (43:52 – Alison Leiby)
  

• A tangent about the increasing fetishization and merging of genres on social media ("hot healthy chefs," AI influencers), and the disappearance of "regular people" from algorithm-driven feeds.

7. Health Inevitabilities, Denial, and Coping

• Stark acknowledgment by Alison that as time passes, health habits become more about maintaining baseline enjoyment of life than radical improvement.

  > "There's nothing that's gonna come into my life that's gonna make it better." (55:01 – Alison Leiby)
  

• Jokes about microdosing skin cancer due to negligent sun exposure and the widespread use of questionable "wellness" hacks.

• The role of chronic pain in shaping Alison's perspective and radical acceptance:

  > "If you've lived in chronic pain...when you're not, you're just like, 'Yeah, I'm good, we're chilling.'" (58:48 – Alison Leiby)
  

8. Work Habits and (Not) Writing

• The creative struggle: Alison describes joining a local, no-frills coworking space to get work done, while admitting most of her day is still spent looking at the wall and "wondering why I can't finish my book."
• General skepticism about the point of elaborate setups, and a running bit about using extra monitors but still getting nothing done.

9. Podcast Plug: ‘Ruined’

• Alison briefly promotes her podcast "Ruined" where her co-host Hallie recounts horror movie plots to her (since Alison refuses to watch scary movies herself).

  "If you don't like scary movies, this is [the podcast]...I'm always like, just tell me what happened." (65:04 – Alison Leiby)

10. Memorable Send-Offs & Alison’s Attitude

• Adam and Jon praise Alison’s self-acceptance and chill, non-competitive approach to life, health, and self-care:

  "You do love yourself...You don't bring any of that [self-sabotage] to hanging out." (57:52 – Adam Pally)

• Alison chalks her laidback attitude up to surviving chronic pain and spinal surgery, saying it fundamentally changed her relationship to stress and ambition.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Adult Interests Becoming Embarrassing:
  "Everything in my life, the people who also like it, ruin it for me." (03:16 – Jon Gabrus)
• On the Pointlessness of Some Hobbies:
  "As you get older, even interests are depressing." (03:43 – Adam Pally)
• On Blood Pressure Med Side Effects:
  "The urgency is so bananas...you go to the toilet and you're like, dink. And they're like, 'Alright, that's everything.'" (13:16 – Jon Gabrus)
• On Staying Alive for a Cat:
  "I think I'm staying alive for the cat." (07:43 – Alison Leiby)
• On Swimming as Meditation:
  "Swimming is accidentally or unintentionally sensory deprivation...It's amazing." (26:23 – Jon Gabrus & Alison Leiby)
• On Phone Addiction:
  "I can't be alone because I have my phone...on it so much because I want to get away from the people." (38:43 – Adam Pally)
• On Futility of Health Upgrades:
  "I'm only going to be shedding health activities and continuing to march my way quicker and quicker towards death." (55:01 – Alison Leiby)
• On Sun Exposure:
  "My mom used to take me to tanning beds...She's like, 'We have to get a base.'" (57:02 – Alison Leiby)
• On Letting Small Health Rituals Count:
  "Even if this is psychosocial, it is probably worth it." (48:10 – John Gabrus)

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Key Timestamps (Content Only)

• 00:13: The existential premise—being surprised they're "still alive"
• 07:43: Alison's confession: "I'm staying alive for the cat"
• 13:00 – 14:12: Honest sharing about medications and blood pressure
• 14:45: Alison explains her ice water face dunking ritual
• 21:00 – 27:00: Deep dive into swimming as exercise, therapy, and shared camaraderie
• 31:03: The culture of over-equipping for simple activities (men and gear obsession)
• 38:43: Alone time, phone addiction, and the impossibility of true solitude in modern life
• 44:00: Media complaint: everything is "zero subtlety", comedy and nuance are dying
• 55:00: Alison’s "no new health plans" monologue—acceptance and wry resignation
• 58:48: Chronic pain as a perspective shifter ("If you've lived in chronic pain...when you're not, you're just like, yeah, I'm good.")
• 65:04: Alison plugs her podcast, Ruined

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Episode Tone and Style

The conversation is sharply funny, irreverent, and brutally honest—full of banter, self-deprecation, and hyper-real disclosures. The hosts and guest blend concern for health with complete cynicism about self-improvement, finding laughter in life's absurdities and accepting their "bare minimum" efforts. The group dynamic feels like a warm, raucous night at a bar, full of both dark humor and affectionate camaraderie.

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Additional Resources

• Alison Leiby’s Podcast: Ruined
• Find Alison Leiby on Social: @alisonleiby (on whatever platforms still exist)
• Upcoming Book: Anticipated for spring 2026.
• Hosts:
  • Jon Gabrus
  • Adam Pally

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Summary Takeaway

This episode serves as a hilarious validation for anyone struggling to keep up with modern “wellness,” self-improvement, or even basic health. Alison Leiby—echoed by the hosts—offers radical acceptance: it’s okay if you’re just muddling through, and often, finding a way to laugh about your worst impulses is survival in itself. If all else fails, you can always blame the cat.

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Transcript

[Alison Libby]

Smart.

[John Gabris]

Bless me, Surprise, listeners, we're still alive.

[Adam Pally]

That is a surprise. It's surprising to me every episode that is, people are like, is there a cliffhanger every week? I'm like, yeah, yeah.

[John Gabris]

More or less hanging off the metaphorical cliff of health.

[Adam Pally]

Well, we have an amazing guest this week, a longtime friend of both you and I's. She is a hilarious stand up comedian in her own right, an amazing comedic writer. She's worked on the President show, the Opposition Planet is Burning. She wrote for the marvelous Ms. Maisel. The resume is enormous. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

She did an amazing one woman show at Cherry Lane Theater about abortion that I saw.

[Adam Pally]

That was unbelievable.

[John Gabris]

Unbelievable. Good show. But also she's kind of of the same cloth, cut from the same cloth as us in that she works hard and parties hard.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. She lives to. She lives to party. Yeah. And. And in doing so, she has to work to live. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And her, her vibe is that she's insanely intelligent and totally normal, but she gets down.

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[Adam Pally]

One of my, the best part is.

[John Gabris]

Is she's comfortable about us talking about her like this without her around.

[Adam Pally]

One of my favorite comedians. One of my favorite people to hang out with. One of the, One of the best. One of the greats.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Please welcome to Staying Alive. Alison Libby. Someone was like, you've never been to Disneyland. You've been in California for 12 years. I'm like, I have no desire.

[Alison Libby]

No, no.

[Adam Pally]

But that's also, I think that, that's also. I do think that Disneyland is like a specifically Californian weird thing that like, not every parent goes to Disneyland or like, you know what I mean?

[John Gabris]

I went to Disney World in Florida. I drove down from New York. Like, by a fellow.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Very similar.

[John Gabris]

My dad blew his Christmas bonus on us.

[Adam Pally]

Very similar. My grandpa lived in a studio apartment in Hollywood, Florida, and we drove down there, picked him up, and stayed at like the Polynesian.

[Alison Libby]

Yes. Once when I was a kid and my mom was like, do you want to go back? I was like, no.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

It's just not for me.

[Adam Pally]

And it always. It is. I like the, like Disney, like the images of Disney and stuff. But it always is shocking when an adult person tells you that they're into Disneyland.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, always.

[John Gabris]

I'm sure we'll turn off like 40 of podcast listeners bringing it up. I hate those people.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

No, it's.

[John Gabris]

Some of them are my close friends and I just do not get like, you could drink at other bars.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

We're so sick. You get a banana dole Whip. It's only 40.

[Adam Pally]

For my wife. For. For our anniversary, I took her up to the top of the tower.

[Alison Libby]

I'd be like Cinderella's tower.

[Adam Pally]

We were looking over the whole thing. I was like, that. That's ro. There's like amazing restaurants.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

In Los Angeles.

[Alison Libby]

Right. Like you're right next to a great city of food and activities.

[Adam Pally]

You can do anything. Like why?

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Why?

[Alison Libby]

Without all the people.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

It's so weird.

[John Gabris]

That's the other thing too much. Like everything in my life, the people who also like it, ruin it for me.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

The second I go to like a comedy show or anything comic book related or everything I enjoy is just ruined by other. I just look to my left and my right and I'm like, am I gonna just give up liking anything? I keep finding more and more esoteric.

[Alison Libby]

Things that no one knows about.

[John Gabris]

Australian Rules Football. You know, like finally even.

[Adam Pally]

That even. Even interests as you get older are like depressing. Like even if just have any interests.

[Alison Libby]

Like, I don't know if I have any.

[Adam Pally]

Like a buddy of mine. A buddy of mine invited me to go to the Michael Shannon rem, like cover concert.

[Alison Libby]

That's an adult actor.

[Adam Pally]

That sounds really fun. But I couldn't go because I had something to. Which was stay home for my daughter to have a sleepover. But so whatever. But I was like, I could. I can't do it. And then he later tweeted out, like, never seen so many people with thick glasses and gray facial hair. And I was like, why ask me to go?

[John Gabris]

I'm scared. You have so little gray.

[Adam Pally]

But still. But why ask me to go and then say that and then roast it? And also he's one of them.

[Alison Libby]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

And it's. But it is. It's just like the whole joke of it is like, hahaha, we're still alive. And like things like I. It really is pathetic. And when you go to something like that and you see, you're like, I'm in an RM cover band that Michael Shannon is fronting.

[John Gabris]

He's tall.

[Adam Pally]

You're like, I love Michael. You're like, I love Michael Shannon. You tell your friend. They're like, who the fudge is Michael Shannon?

[Alison Libby]

Revolutionary role.

[Adam Pally]

You're like, oh, he's the fifth lead.

[John Gabris]

Like, it's Zod.

[Adam Pally]

It's just the whole thing is like the whole thing feels awful.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That I have the interest of it, you know? Like I feel like someone just take me out back and shoot me with firing squad style.

[Alison Libby]

I'm ready. Just take me out.

[Adam Pally]

It's. It's horrible.

[John Gabris]

I like video games. Those are the worst people in the world.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

No, I like sports video games.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Those are the worst. Worst.

[Alison Libby]

What's the difference?

[Adam Pally]

Because like mine, testosterone and no imagination.

[Alison Libby]

Great.

[John Gabris]

And remove sensory of whimsy. Add fucking testosterone and aggression. Ed, I think I'm a jock. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And the prospect of win or lose.

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[John Gabris]

Speaking of win or lose, we should tell.

[Adam Pally]

We don't do intros. Oh, yeah, you don't have to. You don't have to worry about that.

[John Gabris]

That's why I always do one of these power segues.

[Adam Pally]

We do a lot of power segues. And another thing, we don't engage with our audience. Great. So there's no, like, message boards and stuff like that. Like, they may exist outside of the.

[John Gabris]

World, but we've never.

[Alison Libby]

That is none of your business.

[John Gabris]

Hasn't. Behind a paywall. Don't.

[Adam Pally]

Don't care. Don't care.

[Alison Libby]

You would have to pay that.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

That's how they know I'll never go.

[Adam Pally]

It's 299.

[Alison Libby]

It's like, I'd rather just live in ignorance.

[John Gabris]

I'd rather have Showtime and Paramount for $41 a month and not realize how to cancel either. I don't even like yellow jackets anymore, but I got to watch the agency.

[Alison Libby]

All right.

[John Gabris]

Allison, Libby. What are you doing to stay alive?

[Alison Libby]

I mean, not much. I am skating by on, like, the thinnest of ice. Just stay. Like, I'm like, I have a cat. He's probably gonna live 10 more years, and that's probably when I'LL wrap it up like, that's. I think I'm staying alive for the cat.

[Adam Pally]

How old is the cat? Four. He's. I hate to break this. You got like 24 more years.

[John Gabris]

Also, you have to die nine times.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And when you die, depending on if there's anyone else there, it will eat you.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

You're going to get hacked.

[Alison Libby]

Well, I'm hoping that I can have one benefit in life and it's that I could feed my cat my face when I'm dead.

[John Gabris]

It is funny in the current climate of everything to say like, what are you doing to stay alive? And people are just like, I'm not positive I even want what am I living?

[Adam Pally]

No. It does feel that way though. I mean, like there's so many things that come across your feed on a daily basis. That's like asteroid chant. Like the chances of an asteroid hitting.

[Alison Libby]

A city or did you see it went down.

[Adam Pally]

It went down. That was kind of a bummer. I was kind of hoping I was going to go up.

[John Gabris]

I'm going to be like Independence Day on the roof of the skyscraper. Like asteroid. Like lifting my shirt up. And as it just aliens going to.

[Adam Pally]

Be like.

[John Gabris]

Some of the men have tits on this planet.

[Adam Pally]

All of a sudden you get hit with an asteroid black eye and space beads. Glee. Show us your glee floor.

[Alison Libby]

They're like, those are tits.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. They count.

[Adam Pally]

I know. I could them. I could them.

[John Gabris]

Yes, you can. Titty me. I'm a boy.

[Adam Pally]

I know.

[John Gabris]

It was built this way.

[Adam Pally]

Blee glor glorp.

[Alison Libby]

Anyway, I don't think it's going to hit us now, which I am about.

[Adam Pally]

Didn't it give you a sense of.

[John Gabris]

Like, I think we'll find something that destroys the planet Earth pretty soon.

[Alison Libby]

But it felt so like specific in time. It was just like 2032 and I was like, I could do it.

[John Gabris]

I'll be 50. That's.

[Adam Pally]

And then there was. And then. And then there's also like the.

[John Gabris]

I want to go out on an even 50 is. My doctor didn't think I'd live till 50. I tell you, the asteroid is going to keep me alive.

[Adam Pally]

The. Then there's like avian bird flu and stuff. That's like killing. Yeah. All the. The birds just came across my feed. There's obviously the American government is like World War Three is gonna happen. Like there.

[John Gabris]

It just seems like every single person has a gun.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, everyone has a gun.

[Alison Libby]

Everyone in America has a gun.

[Adam Pally]

All the rich people are building bunkers.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Everyone is learning Brazilian jiu Jitsu, which is another sign that they think it's gonna be like Mad Max. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alison Libby]

Hand to hand combat in the streets. And I'm like, you think I'm not gonna be, like, just pounding a bottle of Xanax in my apartment? Like, that's how I'm going out.

[Adam Pally]

I do think that I could say, still kill Mark Zuckerberg. Like, if it was me and Mark Zuckerberg. And I'm serious, like, I feel like I have a rage or like a psychopathic.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

That it was me and Mark Zuckerberg. I've been in fights before where, like, I snap and he feels so nerdy to me that I feel like I would kill him.

[John Gabris]

There's also, like, the third act of the movie element of you. Like, you would be a hero.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

No, no.

[John Gabris]

You know, you, like, you know a rabbit, a fox is running for its dinner. A rabbit's running for its life.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly.

[John Gabris]

You know, and I don't even understand.

[Adam Pally]

Tell that to him right before I'm like, you ever hear the story of a rabbit?

[John Gabris]

I think I blew it. My friend Gabri's kind of got it wrong. Once I got my.

[Adam Pally]

I got my foot on Zuck's neck going. You ever hear the story of the rabbit and the. The caterpillar and the scorpion that was on its.

[John Gabris]

And then the fox and the green go on the boat at the same time to cross the river, something.

[Adam Pally]

Zuck, your early bird's not coming and the worm's down your throat.

[John Gabris]

A worm is down your throat as you forcefully.

[Adam Pally]

I don't understand.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah, I think, like, he to, like, win or lose. Yeah, I think I could win. Yeah, I think I could kill him.

[Adam Pally]

He feels like the fight.

[Alison Libby]

Can we say that?

[John Gabris]

Recurring. That's going to be. Recurring conversation. Do you think you could kill Mark Zuckerberg?

[Alison Libby]

Well, let's put a billionaire.

[John Gabris]

I think I could beat his ass, but I don't. I think I could. I would stop short of killing him. I'm still a little afraid to kill somebody.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. But still. Yes, but I'm saying, like, let's have multiple opportunities. But let's say we were in.

[John Gabris]

Let's say we were saying I'm scared to kill somebody.

[Adam Pally]

Let's say we're in fallout. Like, we're in fallout or whatever. Like, that has happened already and we've survived.

[Alison Libby]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

And like, there is some situation where, like, it's you versus zh. You're leading the resistance or whatever. And like. Or you needed his house to Survive. I feel like I could kill him.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I get that.

[Adam Pally]

You know, I feel. But I don't think I could walk.

[John Gabris]

Into the meta office, point at him, and then choke him out.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly. Like, I feel like I. If the fight feels very much to me, like, it would be like Jared Leto and Ed Norton in Fight Club, where, like, he doesn't feel pain, and then all of a sudden, I've knocked all his teeth out, you know, and he's kind of laughing and then he's dead. But, like.

[Alison Libby]

And then that would be amazing.

[John Gabris]

Why am I hard?

[Adam Pally]

Why am I so rock?

[Alison Libby]

But.

[Adam Pally]

But I think on the billionaire list, like, I think. I think Bezos would be a harder takeout. Yeah, I do. I think he's got more of, like, a dad strength. That would be hard to.

[John Gabris]

All these guys are trt to the fucking.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Which, by the way, we got to get on to this show. I want to be fudgeing bald and pink.

[Adam Pally]

So, like a big. Another power segue. What. Let's talk about what we're on today.

[Alison Libby]

Like, right now at 10.

[Adam Pally]

Well, like, there's so much, like, Let.

[Alison Libby]

Me get up the list.

[Adam Pally]

The amount of medicine I take to. To live is ridiculous. Just to, like, function in a real world. And the amount of therapy that I have, whether it be physical or mental, is insane.

[John Gabris]

Like, I could kick us off with my morning blood pressure meds. Today made just the brief 30 minute commute absolutely brutal on arrival. I had to piss so fucking bad. The urgency is so bananas.

[Alison Libby]

I did not know that was a piece of that.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, if you're. If you're on olmesartan and amlodipine with the fucking hydrochloroquine kicker. Boo, girl. You have to dinkle. It hits so hard. And then you were like, oh, my God, I'm gonna piss my pants. You go to the toilet and you're like, dink. And they're like, all right, that's everything.

[Adam Pally]

I. Yeah, I. I'm on a blood pressure medicine that I had to switch because the original one, every time I stood up, I would almost pass out. Yeah, I would literally. I would literally stand up, be like. Or like, it would feel like the Matrix and people. And it would happen. Like, getting out of an Uber, like, walking into a meeting. Like, I would be like, in an Uber and I get out, I'd be like.

[Alison Libby]

Like.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, I think my blood pressure retin's too high. And they're like, well, they were like, well, how much are you drinking? I was like whiskey water.

[John Gabris]

Neither.

[Adam Pally]

So I. I switched mine and now I'm on one without a certain. Without a d. Diuretic.

[John Gabris]

I think as my mom would say, who's a nurse. She still uses terms I've never heard another. She goes, oh, that's cuz. It's a water pill, John.

[Alison Libby]

Water pill.

[John Gabris]

Water pill.

[Alison Libby]

Those aren't anything.

[John Gabris]

That's an ice c.

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[John Gabris]

Well, I gotta take my water pills.

[Adam Pally]

You swallow that thing.

[John Gabris]

I gotta.

[Adam Pally]

Wait a minute.

[John Gabris]

Put my neck. Feel that made my throat hurt. I also hurt myself, but.

[Adam Pally]

So what's your. What's your daily rash? What's what?

[Alison Libby]

What do you just pills or.

[Adam Pally]

No, no, I mean anything like what's.

[Alison Libby]

I am dunking my face in a bowl of ice water every morning.

[Adam Pally]

I just saw that. I do that.

[Alison Libby]

It is amazing all the time. I am so mad that I didn't do it my whole life. It feels so good.

[Adam Pally]

I had.

[Alison Libby]

Everything about it is great.

[Adam Pally]

My first makeup artist on Happy Endings. I think it was because I was hungover every day.

[Alison Libby]

Had what I'm up to.

[Adam Pally]

Had a bowl, a metal bowl really. And it became. It became part of just the day. Like every morning I would come in and she would dunk my head. And it became something that now I do if I have something like I did today, but I saw it on my. I saw it on my feed for the first time. I think it's becoming like I learned.

[Alison Libby]

It from tick tock. Like a year or two.

[Adam Pally]

Urban ice bath.

[Alison Libby]

God damn it.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. That's so awesome. It's like the whores ice bath.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[Alison Libby]

Okay.

[John Gabris]

That's why I do it in the Port authority bathroom.

[Adam Pally]

I gotta do my ball.

[John Gabris]

Dipping.

[Adam Pally]

Your balls.

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[John Gabris]

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[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Then you fix everything up. Wow.

[John Gabris]

I do like that. I'm a cold plunge guy. And a cold shower.

[Alison Libby]

I love a cold plunge.

[John Gabris]

So that really hits.

[Alison Libby]

Yes. But living in like a one bedroom, I'm like, I guess it's just face. My body will have to catch up.

[John Gabris]

One kid at a time.

[Alison Libby]

Catch up for the rest of the day.

[Adam Pally]

Do you plunge in the city? Do you go to a place or anything?

[Alison Libby]

I don't go anywhere like regularly. But like, if I go to like, you guys know that place? It's spelled air. But it's ire a I R E.

[Adam Pally]

I hate it array.

[Alison Libby]

It's so annoying. Like AI.

[Adam Pally]

I just don't want to say irae.

[Alison Libby]

No, it sucks. When I checked And I was like. I was like, oh, I love this place. Air. And she was like, it's Iri. And I was like, I'm gonna kill myself on your ground. They have, like, all these, like, hot, like, different hot tubs and sauna.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yes.

[Alison Libby]

And then they have two different cold plunges. One's like, like, 51 and one's like 45. Like, they're really whatever.

[Adam Pally]

The temperatures are so good.

[John Gabris]

And I'm staying in Greenpoint this week, so I googled, like, Greenpoint saunas, and the place that they exist is a place called a bath house.

[Alison Libby]

Oh.

[John Gabris]

And it's like. And they say it's like multiple pools and multiples. And I was like, guys, you cannot call it bath house. No, it's gonna make me a little nervous as to what.

[Alison Libby]

No, bath house is not great.

[Adam Pally]

But that's a chain. There's two of us.

[Alison Libby]

There's one in Flatiron.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

It's always just, like, very crowded, and it's a lot of, like, groups of people at.

[John Gabris]

It's not quiet.

[Alison Libby]

Irae is quiet. They only allow, like, 30 people in at a time. And, like, you're not allowed to talk, and if you do, they yell at you.

[Adam Pally]

See, that's. That's my favorite. My favorite cold plunge experience I've ever had. And this will track my personality is that Gurney's in Montauk. In Montauk has the best. They have, like, a. A spa there. That is where, like, they have a really hot sauna and a really hot steam room in the individual male, female locker rooms. But then those things bleed out into a communal, like, hammam.

[Alison Libby]

Oh, sure.

[Adam Pally]

That has four pools of different temperatures. Temperatures to a really hot. And two are, like, cold. Really cold. And then there's another really hot steam room communal behind it. And that, to me, was like, I must have stayed there for, like, seven hours.

[Alison Libby]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I just dunking and. And going from one thing to the other. But because it was like a hotel spa, it wasn't gen pop necessarily.

[John Gabris]

There's like, a limiting factor.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. So there. It felt like you were alone.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I just don't like that when people talk in the sauna. Like, it drives me.

[Adam Pally]

No, I don't want that.

[Alison Libby]

Shut up. Yeah, just shut up.

[John Gabris]

If it's just the two of you, go nuts. If I come in there. Shut the up.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

This is quiet time.

[Adam Pally]

And I know that also, like, when we've. When we've gone, I know it's like, well, we can chat, but if someone comes in it's like.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah, it's like that.

[John Gabris]

We'll catch up another time.

[Alison Libby]

Right? As if you guys don't have more opportunities to speak on Mike.

[Adam Pally]

Unfortunately, we. I do have a mic station in there.

[John Gabris]

We should, we should get hot proof mic. Hot proof. You know, hot proof mics. Hot proof. We should get hot like heat proof mics and we should do an episode in a sauna.

[Alison Libby]

You should.

[Adam Pally]

I feel like that's. I feel like someone is doing that. I just. It just.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, well, we could just do it better and with Sirius's backing. And squash them.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

All this backing.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, we got the whole.

[Adam Pally]

If the cameras would turn and they saw how many people are in this small room. There's more people here than watch what happens live.

[John Gabris]

There are more people in this room listening than are listening to this episode as it is.

[Adam Pally]

It's wild. And every single person here is making more money than Gabrison. Beside our guests who came at her own volition.

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[John Gabris]

Libby, you're one of the first guests that I've actually exercised with.

[Alison Libby]

We have exercised together.

[Adam Pally]

Tell me this part.

[John Gabris]

Excuse us.

[Alison Libby]

We went swimming.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, well, you guys.

[Alison Libby]

Because we're swimmers.

[Adam Pally]

Yes, Allison, you swim in public pools in LA and New York, right? So, like, you're okay with it.

[Alison Libby]

I'm a garbage person.

[John Gabris]

I drink Pool one.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. I swim at the Y in Brooklyn.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, but isn't that, like, a nicer.

[Alison Libby]

It's nice. The Dodge Y on Atlantic is good, right? Yeah, for. In the scheme of, like, urban YMCAs. Yes, yes.

[John Gabris]

Which is maybe we're not gatekeeping pools here on Staying Alive. Okay. I swim at the WEHO pool on the roof of the library.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, but you're not exactly at the YMCA and, like, the VA Home Mission.

[Alison Libby]

No, no, no, no.

[Adam Pally]

You like, ritzy.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

You've been swimming your whole life.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Did you swim in high school?

[Alison Libby]

I swam until I was like, 15, and then I started rowing, but then I still swim, like, for exercise.

[Adam Pally]

Rowing.

[Alison Libby]

Crew.

[Adam Pally]

Crew. Wow. That's. That's a really good workout. Right?

[Alison Libby]

I mean, I mean, it destroyed my back, which is now made of metal, so I don't know if it's, like, a great thing for people to do.

[Adam Pally]

Is it, Is it bad on your back rowing, or is that I just.

[Alison Libby]

Like, have degenerative disc disease and, like, I didn't know that when I started, and perhaps I wouldn't have pursued rowing.

[Adam Pally]

There would have been a better.

[Alison Libby]

That's actually, like, not the best for you.

[John Gabris]

I feel like getting on the erg at your gym to do a couple of thousand meters is a little different than rowing than, like, lifting up a.

[Alison Libby]

Boat, putting it in the water, getting in, propelling it. There's so much to that, putting in a rack.

[John Gabris]

Like, I was technically on my college crew team.

[Alison Libby]

Everybody was on their college crew team for, like, three months.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I joined. I, I signed up. I, I, they recruited me at orientation, and they were like, you got to come to school three days early. And I was like, hell, yeah. I show up and they're like, practices tomorrow at 5:00am and I went, I quit.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Like, on day one of school. And then in, I found rugby. Luckily, I found a sport that kept me alive or hurt.

[Adam Pally]

Looking back on it, that time in college when people recruit you for things is so weird.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Now, like, looking back on it, that there would be a moment where you'd be walking around and there'd be two people being like, go up to that guy.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. Let's see if he's on a sport.

[John Gabris]

He's on Positive profiling.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it is, it is. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

It's like, look at the lats on this broad. You want to swim for us? Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Adam Pally]

It's so weird, like, severance or something.

[Alison Libby]

You know what I mean, Cornell, that you have to Take a swim test to graduate, which I found wild.

[Adam Pally]

Is that because everyone jumps off that bridge?

[Alison Libby]

Well, you can't survive that landing. That's the whole point.

[John Gabris]

You can't. Yeah, I actually.

[Alison Libby]

I have only a couple of trials themselves there.

[Adam Pally]

Trust me.

[John Gabris]

Actually, my suicide has not taken.

[Alison Libby]

I've been working at a time.

[Adam Pally]

I snapped a rope.

[Alison Libby]

So you have to, like, swing two laps. And. And, like, they would have, like, all the different sports teams were just like. They're being like, this person. Talk to them afterwards. And it was, like, so weird. But, like, I came in a swimmer, but already, like, I was recruited to row. And so, like, they were like, hey. And I was like, we did it, guys. I'm already here.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I mean, that's what, like, rushing a fraternity was like at University of Arizona. It was like, you. You, like, walked around and hung out.

[John Gabris]

And then they were like, he'd buy coke. Exactly.

[Adam Pally]

Well, for me or for me, they were just like, no, the Jewish ones over there, like, instantly, they were like, no.

[John Gabris]

I party like a go.

[Adam Pally]

I want to be like, hey, dudes, I can hang. They're like, we will hang you. We don't care.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah, but I still swim, and it rules. And we got to swim together.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, we've been planning. Not really.

[Alison Libby]

We did, like, a 25 of sprinting, and we were both like, well, we.

[Adam Pally]

Did it swimming together. Like, I. I play basketball. And like, when you. When you play bass with a friend that you maybe have never played before, there's like, a period of time you're shooting around, you're getting. And then inevitably, there's a point in time. It's like, one on one. You did that.

[John Gabris]

But the thing about. The fun thing about swimming is especially Libby, and I have no ego about it. And she is a better swimmer than me. I'll say it. She is faster than me. We got that. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Does faster make you better? Better.

[Alison Libby]

That's kind of the whole thing.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Faster or she has both.

[Adam Pally]

I thought they were judging form, form, like, dressage. Oh, like a die.

[John Gabris]

Libby and I also synchronize, and I'm better at that.

[Alison Libby]

And that's where it got competitive.

[John Gabris]

And that was better at.

[Adam Pally]

Are the other swimmers upset when the music comes on?

[John Gabris]

We're doing, like, Buzzbee Berkeley, like, diving into the pool.

[Alison Libby]

I have a full beat. That weird synchronized swimming makeup that's, like.

[Adam Pally]

Waterproof, that doesn't rub off, but also makes you look like a weird ra. This cartoon.

[Alison Libby]

My nose gets bigger somehow.

[John Gabris]

They're like, you look like a World War II cartoon.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Really does. And everyone comes out of the water like, yeah.

[John Gabris]

No, I enjoy this sport.

[Adam Pally]

It's so brief.

[Alison Libby]

It's like just like on uppers.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Into the water. Into the water.

[Alison Libby]

It's such a weird sport. It's very hard.

[John Gabris]

We're not competitive people.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And it just feels good to have someone to bullshit with in between.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. Justifying being on the wall chatting like instead of actually doing the exercise.

[Adam Pally]

Are you headphones in between?

[John Gabris]

In.

[Alison Libby]

No.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[Alison Libby]

I've never done that.

[John Gabris]

I've been considering it because I. My Instagram keeps serving me like waterproof headphones and I'm like, ooh.

[Adam Pally]

Now swimming is. Is way more meditative to me than running where like running you want.

[Alison Libby]

It's a near heart attack every time, every step.

[Adam Pally]

And you need something. You almost need like I need either a podcast or a. Something to keep my mind off of the fact that I'm gonna die.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Something powerful. Like swimming is like accidentally or unintentionally. Also sensory deprivation.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Because you can't really hear. They call black line fever. You know what I mean? Like. Cause you just are staring at a black line on the bottom of the thing and you don't have your phone.

[Alison Libby]

It's amazing. It's my favorite hour of the day. It's like I'm like, my phone isn't here. I can't touch it. It's locked away from me.

[John Gabris]

Wow.

[Alison Libby]

So I don't want like music like I'm just like. I just want to hear the old people near me complaining about the temperature.

[Adam Pally]

Right. You never fall asleep.

[Alison Libby]

Y.

[John Gabris]

That I will say that the pool I train at, if I. There's two like two sessions. I usually every the pool I lay out.

[Adam Pally]

You have to know everything Gabri does is considered training for survival.

[John Gabris]

You don't. Cuz you don't know what my end goal is. So everything builds towards training, overeating, sushi training.

[Adam Pally]

I'm training to playing rugby one day.

[John Gabris]

I'm just trained up.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

But I. If I go at 11am which is the easier time for me to get there because I'm lazy. But if I go at 10am There is an aquarobics class where they blast oldies and I try to go then even though there's less lanes available, I go then. Because when I'm on the wall I can hear like, you're a rich girl, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah, they do. That's a Rose bowl too. Whenever I go swim laps there and I'm always like, I'm gonna go swim towards the deep end, because that's where they're doing the aerobics.

[Adam Pally]

And Allison, you're a comedy writer. Veteran comedy writer. Spend time. All of a sudden, we're on a podcast.

[Alison Libby]

It's a nightmare.

[Adam Pally]

I think I'm getting good at it.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

Keep it all.

[Adam Pally]

What I was going to say was, like, when you're. When you're, like, on staff and you're in a.

[Alison Libby]

What's that like?

[John Gabris]

I don't remember. Hearken back to the old days.

[Alison Libby]

I don't remember 2022.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Last time I was shooting.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

But, like, when you are engaged in something like that, swimming is, like, it. It's a hard thing to, like, have to do. Like, you have to, like, scheduling.

[Alison Libby]

Like, how much do you have to.

[Adam Pally]

Drive to another location? You have to. To drive or here or. Or take the transport, whatever. Change into a bathing suit, get in the pool. Like, it's. It's a real commitment.

[John Gabris]

It's not like a lunch hour work.

[Adam Pally]

Right. Or a morning.

[Alison Libby]

It is like a. A time commitment. And, like, you have to kind of plan. Like, if the Y is busy and there's a bunch of, like, I'm not. I'm not circle swimming.

[John Gabris]

I hate circle population.

[Adam Pally]

What's circle swimming?

[Alison Libby]

Let's explain it, because this is. I could do a whole podcast just about circle swimming.

[John Gabris]

We did.

[Alison Libby]

We did do that. We talked about it for 45 straight minutes.

[Adam Pally]

Well, good. I'd love to get. What is a circle swimmer.

[Alison Libby]

So, like, Elaine has, like, there's, like, an up and a back, basically. There's like. And, like, you could either, like, split a lane where, like, you and somebody are swimming, like, parallel.

[John Gabris]

She just stay. I stay to the right of the black line. Libby stays to the left, the black line we go. But then when you add a third person, you can't do that. So then you have to switch to circle swimming. So stay to the right, go up on the right, come back.

[Alison Libby]

Like, driving.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, like lanes.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, lanes. So then it gets a little frustrating.

[Alison Libby]

Because not everybody's the same. Same speed. Doing the size stuff. Knows the rules.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

Swimming.

[John Gabris]

I know there's always hanging on the.

[Alison Libby]

Wall where I'm like, I'm trying to.

[John Gabris]

Do a turn in this. Doing this. And just is, like, in the middle. And you're like, you don't. You're not here for swim last.

[Adam Pally]

What the.

[Alison Libby]

Are you. Yeah, it's really. And I'm like. I'm doing a workout. There's, like, times I'm, like, working on something.

[John Gabris]

Circle swimming only works with Like a swim club or a swim team where everyone. Where the coach knows your times and it's like, all right, sprinters, you're here.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm there with my kids who are like, trying to get in the pool. Yeah. And then I'm ma. You. Because you're like, get the kids out. And I'm like, they're trying to learn.

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[John Gabris]

There's also other people hate circle swimming. And sometimes you just like. I'm like, sorry, but we have to do. I hate it. You know? And they're mad at you. And I'm like, well, I want to swim.

[Alison Libby]

I know we're all here to do the same thing. And then somebody shows up with a snorkel and you're like, no.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Oh, a snorkel.

[Alison Libby]

Snorkels are wild.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Cuz snorkels. There's like, truly. You can do that for hours. There's no.

[John Gabris]

Any active that has gear associated to it. Like, I feel like. And I'm a gear guy too. You just watch people get really into and just buy gear. Like, I think that's why men like golfing and. Oh, yeah. Just like, buy another culture. Yeah, but there's stuff to buy. Like, oh, did you. When I. When I got scuba certified, everyone on the boat's like, oh, are you rocking? Oh, cool. Oh, you're doing the BCD of. Oh, that's interesting. And they all have like, all. And I'm just sitting there like, this is fun walking. No one's talking about fish or reef or coral.

[Alison Libby]

It's just capitalism. Yeah, capitalism.

[Adam Pally]

Of course. Well, what else are we at? Our capital lords.

[John Gabris]

Like, some guy sets up in the lane next to you and he's got pull buoys, fins. He's got the hand paddles.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And then he does like minute, thirty, hundred.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. And you're like, what are you training?

[Adam Pally]

But that's everything. I mean, that's like, that's like any. Any subculture like that mostly that men can get involved in. Can. Can be like.

[Alison Libby]

Like, men be shopping.

[Adam Pally]

Men be shopping.

[John Gabris]

You know, men are like, I hate shopping. Unless, of course, it's for a new nine iron. Yeah, unless it's something specific.

[Adam Pally]

Paragon.

[John Gabris]

I'm just trying to squeeze one more brace onto my body. Those dudes who hoop with like. I think if you need that much tape to stay together.

[Adam Pally]

When you invite someone to a basketball game, you're like, local game that you don't know. That's just a bunch of regular dudes. And then they come in and they have two tights and the newest pair of sneakers and a mouthpiece and a, and a headband and a visor and like. And you're like oh man. And then they suck.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And they're just elbows.

[John Gabris]

Correlation is usually elbows everywhere.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

The guy who's the best at basketball is the guy who shows up to the Y and he only has jeans and boots. He's like there on his lunch hour and he dunks. What the.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Like hiking in LA is a good example of that. You'll just see like the crate. Like you'll be like someone will be. It'll be Griffith park and someone will be with like the poles, sunglasses, headphones. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You see like Kevin Smith with like three Dobermans and like a two walking.

[John Gabris]

Stick full kit like Camelback with water in the mouth. And then behind them will be like a 95 year old barefoot Asian woman walking the exact same pace as them. And you're like she's just like in jeans, in a sun hat walking down.

[Alison Libby]

Like taking a walk through Griffith Park.

[Adam Pally]

Oh yeah. Like three hetic women carrying children will walk past you.

[John Gabris]

Like FR is wide enough that people don't pet. Don't hear how heavy your breathing.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly.

[Alison Libby]

And that's important.

[Adam Pally]

That's what I need. Yeah. Cuz it's so loud.

[Alison Libby]

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[John Gabris]

And also the other thing about like.

[Adam Pally]

Sometimes a bear came out and gave me cpo.

[John Gabris]

That was me. A bear with a hard on gave me cpi.

[Adam Pally]

I let it happen.

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[Adam Pally]

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[Adam Pally]

Hiking is social. I mean that's another thing about swimming. That must be nice is that even though you guys are together, there's no moment. Like sometimes even when you were the friend on a hiking hike and you're like, let's go hiking. You're both gonna get it in. You're like out of breath and you feel like something's got to be talked about, you know, or else this moment's hanging like a long time and like I'm catching my breath. It's like, so what's the rest? What's the rest of the week look like? It's like, you know, like it's like that's a tough moment.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. Swimming doesn't have that at all. It's amazing.

[John Gabris]

It's so great as a matter of fact. You just get done and then you go, do you see how we like you finally talk at the end.

[Alison Libby]

Yes. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Weird. That was.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's more like. That's what I like like about skiing. I like.

[Alison Libby]

I miss skiing.

[Adam Pally]

Skiing. Skiing.

[John Gabris]

You can't do that anymore because of the back.

[Alison Libby]

No.

[Adam Pally]

Really? Yeah. Or cuz there's no snow in the world.

[Alison Libby]

You have to go to the North Pole to find like any power.

[Adam Pally]

Why? Cuz Colorado is sinking.

[Alison Libby]

Oh God, I miss skiing.

[Adam Pally]

That's the best.

[Alison Libby]

But yeah, it is. It's another like you can chat on the lift, but like the skiing element completely alone.

[Adam Pally]

No. Yes. Nothing better than riding up with your friends early in the morning.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And you're all like talking about what you're gonna do. You get on a lift, you smoke a bowl, you get off the lift and you're like, talk to you in 15 minutes. Like that 15 minutes is heaven.

[Alison Libby]

It's just nice to be alone.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, let's take a moment to talk.

[John Gabris]

About that because that is something I'm becoming rapidly familiar with.

[Alison Libby]

It is what's like keeping, I mean, I live alone, I am single. Like it, like it is a lot of my life is a lot of alone time. But like intentionally so that I don't like, like go on a shooting spree.

[Adam Pally]

Like I, I, I, I would imagine.

[John Gabris]

Like alone time is valuable, is very valuable for someone who's with four other humans.

[Adam Pally]

I got here early today and I went to the bathroom and as I walked out of the bathroom, our producers were walking in in front of us and they didn't know that I was walking in. And one of our producers said, adam's already here. And the other producer, Anne, said, why did he want to get out of his house?

[John Gabris]

And I didn't bring it up until.

[Alison Libby]

Now, by the way.

[John Gabris]

This is technically bringing it up, right? No, no, but she can't defend herself because you're on the podcast.

[Adam Pally]

She has a mic.

[John Gabris]

Mic. What the fuck?

[Adam Pally]

No, no, I'm not saying it that. I'm just saying because I didn't bring it up then to her because she was right.

[John Gabris]

It's pointed, right?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, she was 100% right. I need, needed just 10 minutes.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Quiet of just being like, what, what who am, what am I? Who am I? It's hard every time I talk to.

[Alison Libby]

Someone with kids, I'm like, thank you for solidifying my choices.

[Adam Pally]

No, you guys are living the life. I mean, I really like that. I mean, grass is greener, obviously, but.

[Alison Libby]

What'S it like to feel love from a human and not from a 15 pound cat?

[Adam Pally]

Honestly, I don't know lately.

[John Gabris]

Let me know if you find out.

[Adam Pally]

I think you probably feel it more than I do. I tell you what it feels like for someone to feel dependent on you. I can tell you what that feels like.

[John Gabris]

That's more, that's more.

[Adam Pally]

I can tell you more what the pressure of survival of others is. But the love, the reciprocal parenting.

[John Gabris]

You mean the pressure of others surviving.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. No, I can't tell you what it's like to feel love. But, but alone time is.

[John Gabris]

Alone time is different.

[Adam Pally]

But alone time is not just for parents in the way you're like, we all.

[Alison Libby]

Everybody.

[Adam Pally]

Yes, everybody is. And, and I also, I hate my phone. I feel like I can't get a. I can't be alone because I'm I have my phone. I hate my phone. And I'm on it so much because I want to get away from the people.

[Alison Libby]

Sure.

[Adam Pally]

And then I'm like. But I hate the phone. You know what? I. It's like, hate. I hate everything.

[John Gabris]

I'm like, I'm. I'm about to make an effort to never bring my phone into the bathroom again.

[Adam Pally]

Why?

[John Gabris]

When I. Shit. I'm on my phone, and then I realize I'm done. And I'm just, like, there for another 10 minutes. Like, doing duolingo or looking at this.

[Alison Libby]

That's bad for you.

[John Gabris]

I know you're getting hemorrhoids.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. But also, like, I know.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Now you tell me. But sit on a donut. Boston cream donut.

[Adam Pally]

When else do you know kind of donuts? When else do you get time? Like, to me, like, it's like, at least then I can. Like, sometimes it's like, if I'm shitting and looking at my phone, I'm. I have time.

[John Gabris]

It's crazy. We barely have time to exercise in our busy freelance. Trying to just get a thousand W9s to get enough money to pay your rent in your major metropolitan area that you live in. Like, you barely have enough time to exercise on top of that. But I do think we. Like, like. What's the word I'm looking for here? Dedicating time to be alone.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

I think is important. Quiet time. Quiet time.

[Adam Pally]

So you. But you don't. You don't. You don't. Gabriel. So you don't sleep. Your phone is in a different room when you sleep.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

And your phone now will be in a different room when you shit.

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[Adam Pally]

When are you gonna be on your phone?

[John Gabris]

Hopefully only while I'm driving. I'm even intending to downgrade my phone to the smallest, worst one.

[Alison Libby]

Really?

[John Gabris]

Yeah. So that, like, I want to look at it less so that the titties are in 3K.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, sure. I mean, the titties are not gonna go away like that. I can. I've reset my algorithm, but now that.

[John Gabris]

I've got my ph. There's so many tits in the world.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

No, but this is.

[John Gabris]

This is my TED talk. My tit talk.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, go out.

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[Adam Pally]

You know what? Put your phone on, Go out and grab a tit.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Just look at tits of women jogging. Come on, go sit in the park. Go sit in the park.

[Adam Pally]

Go to a strip club in sweatpants. Go out there. Live your life.

[John Gabris]

Have you seen a gym that has glass wall in front of the treadmills? They can't throw you out from the sidewalk.

[Alison Libby]

What.

[John Gabris]

Just stand there going, Yep.

[Alison Libby]

Keep it up. Keep it up, ladies.

[Adam Pally]

No. The algorithm is so obtrusive. It's. It's not go like, you can reset it a million times. You're still going to get the titties in your algorithm.

[John Gabris]

I've been trying to actively, like, okay, this is a fitness video that is. Let me watch it longer. This is a peaceful video. Let me watch it does not work.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[John Gabris]

It's like, yeah, sick little pervert.

[Adam Pally]

There's one thing that you keep looking at longer.

[Alison Libby]

Like, no matter what, no matter how long you look at a cooking video.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

Like, it's doubled.

[John Gabris]

Like, well, this.

[Adam Pally]

He just finished looking at a longer sex video.

[John Gabris]

He may have watched how to make high protein buffalo tenders, but he also watched this breastfeeding video.

[Adam Pally]

Have you got. Have you started to get hot? Have you started to get hot, healthy chefs?

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah.

[Alison Libby]

Oh, yeah. That's a whole genre. Sub genre.

[Adam Pally]

Well, every genre is hot is hot.

[John Gabris]

Now, the angles that some chefs use, it's so funny where it's like. It's like just their lips.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alison Libby]

It's all just fetish content, though.

[Adam Pally]

This thing is fetishized.

[John Gabris]

Like, this is like Zuckerberg's, like, in a control room, like, Truman show going, we got him, folks.

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[Adam Pally]

100.

[John Gabris]

He's in. He will never kill me.

[Alison Libby]

I will do hate that everything has to just be one. Like, it's like all your stuff at once. And it's like, oh, can't I, like, watch porn and then, like, watch something else?

[Adam Pally]

Yes, I want to break.

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Can't I?

[Alison Libby]

Like, I'm like, let me focus on the one thing at a time. If I like watching, like, I don't know, an exercise video. And I also want to see, like, people fucking. Like, can't those two things live separately?

[Adam Pally]

And don't you feel like because of.

[Alison Libby]

That I have the time?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Don't you feel like, because that you're missing certain staples of people in your life? Like, like, I used to, like, like, there's no, there's not in your life.

[John Gabris]

Like, Gianna Michaels.

[Adam Pally]

Like, no, no, no. Like, everyone's now Gianna Michaels. Right, Right. So what used to be, like, the weird guy that would be like, hey, let me teach you how to play Hotel California. You know what I mean? Is now dead. He's gone. And that. That small thing in my mind of, like, I remember learning how to play Hotel California from, like, the guitar teacher in the local store or whatever, or the video I found on the Internet is been replaced with literally, like a sex worker. Sex worker playing the same thing, which may not even be real. Might be AI.

[Alison Libby]

Well, that's a whole.

[Adam Pally]

But like, so now. So now it's like the. The. The observation part of my mind that used to, like, make a character out of that guy or whatever is gone.

[Alison Libby]

No, because now it's just, like, titties.

[Adam Pally]

Everyone's just hot.

[John Gabris]

The separation of church and state is really interesting because it's also happening, like, in movies. Like, movies are now, like, it's a comedy, action drama, romance, fantasy. And you're like, everything just made me great.

[Adam Pally]

And it's starring everybody. Everybody's in it all.

[Alison Libby]

I've stopped learning. Learning anything.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yes.

[Alison Libby]

I don't.

[John Gabris]

There's almost, like, no new info.

[Adam Pally]

And there was an article I read recently. Or didn't read it. Saw the headline. Yeah, but that.

[Alison Libby]

You read that.

[Adam Pally]

I read the headline, but it was.

[John Gabris]

About how that's practically a book.

[Adam Pally]

It was like, actually, I did click the link, but then I saw it had a barrier, so I was like, I got.

[Alison Libby]

Oh, I'm not.

[Adam Pally]

I was like. I got a feel for it. But the. The. The premise of it was that all the movies in this year, year's best actor, had, like, zero subtlety in them. Yeah. And that they were all explicitly simple and just like, even. And like, Amelia Perez was even, like a convoluted story. They told you what was happening, like, right to camera.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. There's no.

[Alison Libby]

There's no metaphor.

[Adam Pally]

There's no metaphor. It's no nuance. There's no. Nothing. Like, that's why comedy doesn't work.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

That's why, like, drama doesn't work. The. The only thing that works is unlimited questions like, like severance, where the audience is like, what is happening?

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Or just like.

[John Gabris]

Or a show that you can be in the other room while it plays.

[Alison Libby]

And, you know, the characters come on screen and they say, I am the hero.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly. Or it's comforting and it's played and it's like Holocaust movie. Architect man wants to. You know, like, it's so.

[Alison Libby]

So comforting.

[Adam Pally]

No, but like.

[Alison Libby]

But I know, like, you know what it is?

[Adam Pally]

The Brutalists.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

You know, are repeated.

[Alison Libby]

Yes. Forever.

[Adam Pally]

Forever.

[John Gabris]

I mean, this is his second Oscar for playing Oscar.

[Adam Pally]

Literally. The guy did the same thing with a piano.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Hey, pianos, building buildings. What's the difference? Let's go.

[Adam Pally]

I remember. I remember 20 years. I didn't. You know. I want to thank you for giving me this award 20 years between Holocaust fics. That won me an Oscar. You know, I know what it's like to be out in the darkness.

[John Gabris]

I saw somebody compare Adrian Brody's career to Eli Manning and it's so perfect. Two Super Bowls and mostly interceptions in like his career in between these two movies was absolutely garbage. He wasn't in any.

[Adam Pally]

And my favorite Adrian Brody, like, slight. It's still a victory, but like the slight headline is like everyone's like, what are the. What will the Academy Award winners do next? And it was like everyone had their own major project and was like, adrien Brody might play number two to Leonardo DiCaprio in the Evil Knievel movie. Like back to his old.

[John Gabris]

Doing what he loves. So swim in laps, dunk in your face in ice. Any non water based things you're doing.

[Alison Libby]

Pisces. No, I'm a Capricorn. I'm an Earth sign.

[John Gabris]

I mean, I know you don't drink water. I've been.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that's a good.

[John Gabris]

I mean, at least not at night.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[Alison Libby]

But that I stopped drinking water around 4pm and then I switch exclusively to hard alcohol.

[Adam Pally]

That is a really good point though, for our esteemed guest Allison. Which is when we booked you that a headline on the. Because you get like little information about everybody from. Was Alison, longtime comedian, swimmer and partier right here.

[John Gabris]

Wellness themes for discussion. Swimming, partying, New York. See Stand up lifestyle. I'm like, this is how I would describe.

[Adam Pally]

And I was like, yeah, that's.

[Alison Libby]

That's the three. That's it.

[John Gabris]

What have I done with Libby in my life? Swam laps and gotten absolutely smashed.

[Adam Pally]

No, no. Eaten amazing meals. Eaten amazing meals.

[John Gabris]

We've had citrus salads.

[Alison Libby]

Citrus salads.

[John Gabris]

The queen of the citrus salad.

[Alison Libby]

I made an amazing citrus salad for our dinner party. Slash billion bottles of wine with Justin.

[John Gabris]

Keep our friend's daughters awake for three hours screaming. Screaming about English, the industry.

[Adam Pally]

So basically this episode.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

[John Gabris]

They all line up.

[Alison Libby]

I'm very. And I hate that I am. But those like bottled ginger shots.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah.

[Alison Libby]

I mean they're like. It's like they're 4.99 a pop. It's just plastic.

[Adam Pally]

I'm a sucker.

[Alison Libby]

But I. I'm like, they work. I don't know on what, but yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I can't tell if it's like helping me shit or stopping me from shitting.

[Alison Libby]

But either way it hurts going in. And I feel like that means it's good 100%.

[Adam Pally]

It's like cupping. It feels like cupping.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

We're Is it good? I don't know.

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I don't know.

[Adam Pally]

But I like to feel. And I like that it hurt.

[Alison Libby]

I like that I like what things hurt. Because I feel alive briefly.

[Adam Pally]

No, totally.

[John Gabris]

But that is something that. When you get older, where you're like, even if this is psychosocial, it is probably worth it still.

[Adam Pally]

Good.

[Alison Libby]

Like, I'm like. Because the op. Like, the alternative is nothing. And then I feel bad that I'm not doing anything to stop feeling bad. So I'm like, yeah.

[John Gabris]

Upset with yourself.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Oh, dude, it's. I. I'm. I'm such a. In that phase right now where I'm spiraling down. I'm, like, just trying to build positive momentum. Sure. Yeah. Because if I do, like, oh, I took two days off exercising. Well, that's because you're ready to die now.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

You know, and all of a sudden you're like, steer clear.

[Alison Libby]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Clean into the tower.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

So I wa. I dunk my face in ice. I take a ginger shot, and then.

[Adam Pally]

So are you buying?

[Alison Libby]

I take nine Advil.

[Adam Pally]

Are you buying whole, like, in bulk ginger shots, or are you going to the bodega?

[Alison Libby]

I'm going to the bodega. I. Should. I try. I looked up ordering, like, a case of them, and it was, like, kind of the same price.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And I was like, 60 bucks for a case?

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Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

And I'm like, I don't know if I need.

[John Gabris]

What you need to get is, like, a ginger. A bunch of ginger and a press.

[Alison Libby]

I made them once, and I was like, this is not worth it. I would rather fold.

[Adam Pally]

Four in the morning, wasted with the cat jumping around, holding a tomahawk steak in one hand, being like, tomorrow, I gotta make the juice. I'm gonna make the juice tonight for tomorrow. Don't get the ginger out.

[John Gabris]

Get the ginger out. Just get the ginger out. Huge knife. Bunch of ginger knife.

[Alison Libby]

I am talking to myself throughout everything.

[Adam Pally]

I do at home. Like, gotta put the steak down if I'm gonna cut.

[Alison Libby]

I can't believe I've never hurt myself drunk cooking. Cause it's happening constantly, and it's so dangerous.

[Adam Pally]

State of the bodega.

[John Gabris]

I tried to make a bacon cheeseburger once, and I had no shirt on. Splashed oil all over my stomach. And I look down and I'm like, my stomach is so protruding that it's, like, over the pan. Like, if I stand at the oven, I'm like, I gotta suck in to see it. I'm like, maybe I should stand back a little. Maybe I should Put on a top.

[Alison Libby]

Maybe you shouldn't be making a bacon cheeseburger.

[John Gabris]

There's a whole lot of maybes there.

[Adam Pally]

That's how you know.

[John Gabris]

But that's on my inst. I put it on reels and now it does Boku numbers.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that's something they say that.

[Alison Libby]

Isn't that what it's all about?

[Adam Pally]

That's how you know when someone has, like a pill addiction. When, like, they. When, like, they'll be like, naked, like a. Like a title fallout. But they won't know or something. Or like. Or whatever. For you, it's being burnt. Being burned by oil and not realizing what happened last night.

[John Gabris]

Feel like a pickle off my gut.

[Alison Libby]

That's from yesterday.

[Adam Pally]

No, no, that's a scab. Now, in this fictitious scenario of your daily balance, where are you going?

[Alison Libby]

What job are you going to go sit on my couch for nine and wonder why I can't finish my book.

[Adam Pally]

Are you a writer?

[John Gabris]

Are you a co? Once I get the ginger shot in, I have. I have a cup of coffee and then I sit and look at the wall for nine hours. Then I start drinking.

[Adam Pally]

Are you a coffee shop writer?

[Alison Libby]

No, I can't. I'm part of a. A co working space now. I joined one to like two.

[Adam Pally]

I took a meeting there. It wasn't bad.

[Alison Libby]

At a co working space.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Oh, someone was like some. A comedian wanted to meet there and they were like, yeah, I'm at this. Wait, where a soho.

[Alison Libby]

Oh, no, I'm like, part of like, there's one like two blocks from my apartment. Just like a. Oh, it's like a bare bones, like, co working space.

[Adam Pally]

See, that sounds better. I feel like that's like.

[Alison Libby]

At least in all, it's amazing in that I do get a lot of work there done there. But I'm like, okay, what's everyone else doing here? Like, I'm so tattooing and dental work. I have like multiple, like, screens. Like, I'm like, you're bringing multiple monitors, but I've seen you not do one thing.

[John Gabris]

One time I went to a coffee shop to work on a script, got bought a burrito and iced coffee. And then I was like, well, I can't type while I eat, so I'll just. With my headphones in, I'll just put something on Netflix and I watch like a full movie in a coffee. I finished the burrito and then just sat and sipped the coffee and watched like maybe three episodes of a show or so. But I watched TV for like an hour and a half on My coffee shop and my laptop starts dying and I'm like, well, no chargers, you know, Fresh eyes.

[Adam Pally]

Fresh eyes tomorrow.

[John Gabris]

You know, it's like, how was the coffee shop? Got a lot of work done. I'm almost done with this season of Frieren, the anime I'm addicted to.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. I will say that there's not a lot of that happening at the co op.

[John Gabris]

Putting in multiple monitors is.

[Alison Libby]

The multiple monitors stuff is fine.

[Adam Pally]

What do you think they're doing?

[Alison Libby]

I can't. And I'm always like, looking and trying to see and I can't figure out what.

[Adam Pally]

Do they have like shields on the. On the thing?

[Alison Libby]

No, it's just like I can't figure out what I'm looking at because I'm an idiot.

[John Gabris]

It's probably like day trading or. So it's. The thing is now like, coding. Yeah. Because so many people work from home.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And so like, it does it. It could be almost. It's not just a creative person's thing.

[Alison Libby]

Right. Because I was like, oh, everybody here is also going to be writing their memoir. And then it's like, oh, no, everybody here has like a job with a salary.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Alison Libby]

I'm like, oh, lol. I'm going to go kill myself.

[Adam Pally]

Well, are they taking what your.

[John Gabris]

Your memoir is called? Steal Back and Abortions.

[Alison Libby]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

Blow My Steel Back Out.

[Alison Libby]

Um, it's Titanium.

[John Gabris]

Titanium. And we gotta get that music license. I want to sing the full thing in two Livey.

[Adam Pally]

Wait, I have more questions with the workspace. Do. Do they. Do they do zoom meetings? Like, do you hear people?

[Alison Libby]

No. The area I work in is like all big desks and you have to be quiet, which not everybody is always doing. But like, for the most part, there's like rooms downstairs that are soundproof if you have to take calls.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[Alison Libby]

So you can like, like in the.

[John Gabris]

Delta Lounge when there's a guy in the phone booth just farting on his.

[Adam Pally]

You know that, you know, cuz. And they're standing like sitting like this.

[Alison Libby]

Like, like kind of like adjusting.

[John Gabris]

Like the digestive track of businessmen is absolutely wild.

[Alison Libby]

At the airport. At the airport, it's chaos.

[Adam Pally]

I have been fascinated with business people's digestive system at the airport my whole life. Because from a young age, you are young, you are just. It's hammered in your head that if you see a wingtip shoe out of the stall a little bit, they are gonna be blowing rockets and they're taking.

[John Gabris]

Like a steakhouse ipa.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Like blood clot.

[Adam Pally]

The worst sound you've ever blood Clot.

[John Gabris]

Why did I say blood clot? Blood clot podcast is canceled. Yeah, okay, fair enough.

[Adam Pally]

And then after that blood clot, they go to clean up at Irie.

[John Gabris]

Are you feeling Irish?

[Adam Pally]

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Adrien Brody. On Saturday night.

[John Gabris]

You gotta get Chad Hanks on this podcast.

[Adam Pally]

Musical guest, the Linkin Park.

[John Gabris]

Libby.

[Adam Pally]

Before we plug us.

[John Gabris]

Before we let you go. Yeah. Before we get to plugs though, is there anything that you are like, looking forward to trying to do, like to add to your health regimen or something? Like in a wishful world, you would do blank or something like that?

[Alison Libby]

I mean, not really.

[John Gabris]

Hell yeah.

[Alison Libby]

Wow. I mean, like, realistically, no. Like in a world like if I have to be me, like, there's nothing that's gonna come into my life that's gonna make it better. I'm only gonna kind of be shedding health activities and continuing to kind of march my way quicker and quicker towards death. But I don't know, I just like, I don't like, health wise. I'm just like, I don't know, I should just like go to the doctor more. I just had a bunch of like dental work done and I was like, was this worth it? I don't know.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, they say no, all these now are like death, Death starts in the gums.

[Alison Libby]

I know.

[John Gabris]

And so you know who says that the most? Me dentists. The guys who get paid if they clean your teeth. Oh, yeah, no, they're always like, you know, there's. This is linked to your heart and brain too, not just your teeth.

[Alison Libby]

And I'm like, isn't it all connected? Like, is it if my knee hurts, is am I going to die? Like, I don't know. It all feels the same.

[John Gabris]

I don't know.

[Adam Pally]

It's not that close to your brain.

[John Gabris]

Trust me, doc, it's not going to be my gums that kill me.

[Alison Libby]

Right, Right.

[John Gabris]

This is like getting a new grill put on your car. That is 600,000 miles. It's like, I think we need to work on the transmission.

[Adam Pally]

I don'. I just hear a lot about. I hear a lot about like the first thing that people when like heart disease and stuff, they're like, oh, yeah, it was like a filling missing or something.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. I mean, no, it is like hello to a dentist now. Yeah. That is the thing. I don't know. Just like being more on top of my own. Like sometimes I just like something will be wrong and I'm like, it'll be fine.

[John Gabris]

And I get that still like that 20 something attitude.

[Alison Libby]

About it. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I'll just. Like, this kink will work itself out.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I for sure have melanoma.

[Alison Libby]

Oh.

[Adam Pally]

Like, there are so many spots on my body that I've been like, that's fine.

[Alison Libby]

The way I've never worn sunscreen ever in my, like, swimmer lifeguards, like, never. I'm like, I had. I had skin cancer at 16, I'm sure. And it's just been.

[Adam Pally]

I've been. I've been like, slowly microdosing skin cancer.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Like, I'm mainly my shirt off. Yesterday in the park in Greenpoint here in New York, everyone was like, what the fuck? And I like, was like, it was 40 degrees yesterday.

[Alison Libby]

It was so nice out.

[John Gabris]

Look how tan I am.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, you did get tan from it. No, but that is like.

[Alison Libby]

My mom used to take me to tanning beds before vacation because she's like, we have to get a base.

[John Gabris]

I thought that was a Long island thing. I still don't go to a tanning bed.

[Alison Libby]

I mean, my mom's.

[Adam Pally]

You got to get a base.

[Alison Libby]

So it's like the regionally correct.

[Adam Pally]

But yeah, I for sure have let skin cancer go.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I used to, but Tom Brady says you can drink enough water to.

[Alison Libby]

Combat sunburn, but you can't eat strawberries.

[John Gabris]

No.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

No, no, don't have a tomato. It'll kill you.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. What is Tom Brady actually. Actually ingesting? Like, one packet. One packet of.

[John Gabris]

He's mainlining. Kill Tony.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

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[Alison Libby]

It's cool that they bought three specials of that and.

[John Gabris]

No, that's awesome.

[Alison Libby]

I'm definitely gonna hope that I can put something on YouTube one day. Yeah. I don't know if there's anything else.

[Adam Pally]

I would do that's so refreshing. I think what I wanted to say to you before, before you go is that one of the things I love about you as a friend and co worker, but friend. Is that you do love yourself in such a. Really. You do. And I think that's why it's so nice to be around you, is that you don't bring any of that to hanging out. It's just like.

[Alison Libby]

You got a good life. More or less.

[Adam Pally]

No, but it's like, better than some, worse than others. Yeah, better than some, worse than others.

[Alison Libby]

Anybody is hiring writers for anything, but.

[Adam Pally]

I think that that's like. It's just. I think that more people could serve to just, like, take it easy.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. I don't know. I got really chilled out, I think, after my last spine surgery especially. Cause I was just like, oh, this is all falling apart. And it could be a lot worse. I'm just like. I don't know. I get to walk around and swim and do stuff. And now I'm.

[John Gabris]

You're not in searing pain?

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. Right?

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Alison Libby]

If you've lived in chronic pain for, like, long periods of time, like, when you're not. You're just like.

[Adam Pally]

And what was that? This is cool, if you don't mind. I hate to get into it at the end, but, like, what was that pain like? And what was the recovery of that? Like.

[Alison Libby]

I mean, like, for, like, I have, like, nerve pain through my legs, and it just feels like there is no. You can't sit, you can't stand, you can't lie down. None of it makes it better. Walking is technically the only thing that felt good. And then it's like, how long can you do that?

[Adam Pally]

And is that because the disc in.

[Alison Libby]

Your back pushes on a nerve? And so, like, the nerve to, like, my whole left side would just be, like, on fire 24 hours a day.

[Adam Pally]

And you're in a writer's room, sitting, Sitting.

[Alison Libby]

Focus. I'm like, how do we make this Mike Pence joke funny?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I'm like, I'm sorry to do this to you.

[John Gabris]

We gotta.

[Adam Pally]

We need a new Mike Pence joke.

[Alison Libby]

White knuckling. And I'm like, act two, you say.

[Adam Pally]

Okay, Mrs. Maisel needs another hat. Is it a hat on a hat if she's wearing two hats?

[Alison Libby]

Oh, the hats. So it's like, you know, when you're not in that pain, like, it's so you're just like, yeah, I'm good. We're chilling. I'm having a nice time. Let's get drunk, let's get high. Let's have a nice meal. Like, let's go for a swim.

[Adam Pally]

It smells so good right now. At nine in the morning.

[Alison Libby]

I'll say. This is the earliest I've been up for a non flight in, like, three years.

[Adam Pally]

We're trying.

[John Gabris]

Same.

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[John Gabris]

Wait, what time do we have to arrive?

[Alison Libby]

I, like, set an alarm and I was, like, 8.

[Adam Pally]

And the truth is that I did sleep here.

[Alison Libby]

It's quieter than home with all the mics.

[John Gabris]

Do you have to do anything to maintain your back? Like, do you do anything?

[Alison Libby]

I should do, like, physical therapy. Like, you know, but, like, swimming, like, does a lot of the work. And then I have, like, some, like, stretches and exercises I do when I'm like, ooh. Because, like, I did lose some range of motion, and it does get, like, stiff, but it's not. There's no pain. I still take a bunch of Advil every day, like, for fun. At this point now it's part of.

[John Gabris]

My habit that I'll never get.

[Adam Pally]

I had the worst thing happen the other day.

[John Gabris]

Ginger Advil.

[Adam Pally]

I do. I take all my pills in. In the palm of my hand, throw them in, and do it at once. And it could be. That could be like, 30 pills sometimes. And the other day, I was really hungover, and I threw, like, three Advil in there.

[Alison Libby]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I. I threw him in, took a swig of water, and my son asked me a question right. That time, and I answered him and bit down on one of the Advil and didn't.

[Alison Libby]

Because at first you're like, this could be delicious.

[Adam Pally]

I just.

[John Gabris]

I was like, it does have, like, Eminem coating.

[Adam Pally]

It had a. But it wasn. It was. It was just sensory. Like, it was just lodged in my, like, soft pocket.

[Alison Libby]

Yes. And you're like.

[Adam Pally]

And he asked me. I was like, what? And it bit down. And I was like, oh.

[Alison Libby]

You're like, I taste like a pharmaceutical company.

[Adam Pally]

It tasted like the inside of a hospital. Like, if the smell of a hospital is in my mouth. And I feel like I haven't gotten it rid of it since Sunday.

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[Adam Pally]

Like, I still taste cilantro.

[Alison Libby]

I took.

[John Gabris]

I tried to take a handful of pills once with iced coffee. Like, it was With a straw.

[Alison Libby]

No, just. But, like, still.

[John Gabris]

But a cube in my mouth also. So my mouth is, like, full of fish oil, ice, like, all this. I'm like. It was like Ren and Stimpy. Like, you just saw it go. My neck.

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[Adam Pally]

I had that once when I. I had that once when I took a vape out of my pocket that had, like, lint in it. And I, like, took a. It was like, early in the morning. I took a big hit and it was like, oh, my God. And I. I'd, like, slowly pull a lint out. Like a magician, like a clown.

[John Gabris]

It's better than when you're pulling it out of your ass. Like, when you dog eats hair, you pull. Like, if your dog accidentally eats hair, by the way, he will have, like, beads head.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. I can't. This would be so long.

[John Gabris]

Rizzo would be inside out by the time we're done. Muscles on the outside.

[Alison Libby]

Whoa. Inside out cat. Like one of those hairless ones.

[Adam Pally]

I have heard of that. I did. I had a. A housekeeper once from Romania that. That told me that. We were like, how's everything going? And she was like, not good. My daughter's dog was born with everything on the outside. And we were like, what? She's like, everything's on the outside.

[John Gabris]

The heart, the lung, kill it.

[Adam Pally]

I was like. And it's walking around. She's like, we do surgery to tie it up, protect it, but it's all. It's not good. And we were like, oh, okay. All right, we're leaving.

[John Gabris]

Goodbye. Just a reminder, our dog keeps everything.

[Adam Pally]

In side anyway, so thank you for cleaning our house. Goodbye.

[John Gabris]

That is really funny where you don't know if it's like. Like a cultural difference or something. Yeah. Everything on the outside. Okay. She's like, no, the heart is definitely.

[Adam Pally]

On the horrifying show.

[John Gabris]

I'm picturing it, and it's making me so upset.

[Alison Libby]

It was horrifying.

[Adam Pally]

And the kids were like, what does she mean? And we're like, nothing, nothing. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. And she. I remember she was like, cleaning the Airbnb. We were staying in, too. Is like, someone that we didn't interact with a lot. So there was not a lot of. Of judgment of like, do we know you? It was like, in the agreement of the Airbnb, cleaning people would be coming around, and she was very sweet. And they didn't hire her. No. The kids are talking, and I like, oh, very tough. My daughter. My daughter's dog born. Everything on outside, like. Gigi was like, what is that?

[John Gabris]

Don't picture it. Don't try to picture.

[Adam Pally]

I was like, fur. Fur on the outside, right? Fur. No, not even skin. Thin. Thin membrane. Look like exhibit. Look like exhibit with the bodies.

[John Gabris]

The guy from my right.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

X gonna do it to you.

[Alison Libby]

He's putting a fish tank in the back of your car.

[John Gabris]

I'm gonna make your dog inside out. I hear you like dogs, but you like lungs even more. So we're turning your dog inside out here on Pimp My Pet.

[Alison Libby]

Fisheye lens of a dog.

[Adam Pally]

There's a PlayStation on its.

[John Gabris]

On the outside.

[Adam Pally]

All right. Thank you, Ivy.

[Alison Libby]

This is awesome.

[John Gabris]

Wait, before you get out of here, one thing we know you are doing for your health is not watching scary movies, but having someone tell you all about them.

[Alison Libby]

Is that correct? My podcast ruined. What a segue. I don't watch scary movies. I don't like them. I don't need to be stressed out. I am very stressed out already. I don't need to scare myself. So my friend Hallie just tells me the plot of different scary movies and each episode, it's called Ruined. If you don't like, scary movies. This is like. Because I'm always like, just tell me what happened.

[Adam Pally]

Is Haley good with the details?

[Alison Libby]

Incredible. She's like a lover of the genre. Great writer writing horror herself. So, like, she really, like, knows how to do it. She's a great storyteller.

[Adam Pally]

Have you found. What are some of your favorite movies that you found?

[Alison Libby]

I mean, I've not watched any of.

[John Gabris]

Them, but from hearing them, no one, not one, like, outline has been like, maybe I'll watch this one.

[Alison Libby]

Like, some of them I'm like, oh, I could watch that. Like, I could, like, I could watch Cujo. Like, you know, it's not like, for the Shining.

[Adam Pally]

Have you. You covered that?

[Alison Libby]

I've seen the Shining.

[Adam Pally]

It's one of the few I watched is borderline horror. Right.

[Alison Libby]

Because it's like more like psychological thriller. And I watched it when I was on, like, a million pain pills after a sur. My first surgery. And I was like, okay, yeah, right. On like 40 per cent a day. And you're like, all right.

[Adam Pally]

Are you doing more like.

[John Gabris]

No swimming lifey a happy girl. I could do the Kubrick stare. Hey, Joker.

[Adam Pally]

Hello, New York public pool.

[John Gabris]

It's time to circle.

[Adam Pally]

Swim.

[John Gabris]

Where circle is swimming you.

[Alison Libby]

I just so threatening.

[John Gabris]

Check out ruined.

[Alison Libby]

Wherever you.

[John Gabris]

Whenever you're listening to this on, take out the app and download ruined.

[Adam Pally]

Subscribe and your social accounts and your.

[Alison Libby]

Standup and yeah, I do stand up around town and you can follow me at Alison Libby on whatever still exists. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And I guess in 2028, everyone should.

[Alison Libby]

Expect your book 2026 next spring.

[Adam Pally]

Whoa.

[Alison Libby]

It's due very soon. So that's why I like, keep, like, saying the pub date, because I'm like, next spring. It comes out. It has to happen.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. You gotta finish it.

[Alison Libby]

I will have a book out.

[Adam Pally]

So are you gonna go into the future or is it all just past stuff?

[John Gabris]

My memoir predicts my last 20 years of my life.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah. It's like lost, actually. There's a lot of time jumps.

[John Gabris]

There's like, chapter 31 is like. Okay, you're a good writer.

[Adam Pally]

You're a good writer. I'd love to see what you can do with a memoir.

[John Gabris]

You gotta think outside the box.

[Alison Libby]

It ends with the aspect. It's definitely hitting us.

[John Gabris]

Thank you so much.

[Adam Pally]

Thanks, guys.

[John Gabris]

I think we talked about health a little bit on this episode.

[Adam Pally]

As much as we were gonna get from Alice, right?

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I mean, as much as we're able to even deliver.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, honestly, I learned more from that than any of the other Ones we've done swimming. She swims in a public pool.

[John Gabris]

This is the most recent one. And you got the 50 first dates disease. And this just gets wiped by the time we record the next one.

[Adam Pally]

It's all lines. One in one ear, out the other. I don't remember what I'm saying.

[John Gabris]

So you said you. We're about to go record another episode, but you said you wanted to run home and spend time with your family real quick before you came back.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know. I have to check with an. No, it was very cute when I heard it because I was like, oh, that's. That's. It's. It's a nice. Like, there's so many other things that producers could be saying about you as you teasing you or just being like. Or just like. It's nice. I feel like, oh, he's.

[John Gabris]

Gabrius is here already. Great. He's going to clog the toilet.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly. Like, or like. Or like, oh, God, more time with this one. Like, it felt. It felt very loving and it felt like she, like and I have worked together on several different things for a lot a long time. So it felt more like she actually did know that I didn't want to go back to my house.

[Alison Libby]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And has been cc'd on emails on business. Emails I've gotten for about 20 years now. So if she's not writing them herself, someone is also like, and I'm looping an in.

[Adam Pally]

Like, and I'm like, great.

[John Gabris]

How is she still in my life?

[Adam Pally]

And has walked me around south by Southwest and produce my podcast. One of the greats, Allison Leiby and Anne and Adam. And Adam and John.

[John Gabris]

Hey, all four and you listeners and you. You know who's the greatest of all? You6 listeners that are listening. Cause this is playing in the elevator at Sirius XM that you're forced to listen to. Oh, no, the elevator's stuck. You can call me at 516. Beep, beep, beep, beep,. Beep, beep, beep. Who do I call?

[Adam Pally]

They beeped it out.

[John Gabris]

My phone is just curse words. 516. Fuck off. Hey, see you guys next week. Well, you'll see us. We won't see you at all, hopefully. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally. A smartless Media production in association with.

[Adam Pally]

Sirius xm Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music, Associate producer.

[John Gabris]

And video producer is Matty McCann, social.

[Adam Pally]

Media producer Tommy Galgano, assistant engineer Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[John Gabris]

Executive producers are John Gabris.

[Adam Pally]

Ooh, me.

[John Gabris]

Adam Pally. Ooh, you, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson, and Bernie Kaminski. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Adam Pally]

Just so everyone knows, we do not have a discord.

[John Gabris]

Don't reach out to us.

[Adam Pally]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.

[Alison Libby]

That was great. And we can stop talking about me.

[Adam Pally]

Oh.

[John Gabris]

Smart. Bless me.

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