Dads & Grads (w/ Scott Aukerman)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

Episode: "Dads & Grads" (with Scott Aukerman)

Date: November 6, 2025
Guest: Scott Aukerman
Podcast Network: SmartLess Media

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Episode Overview

This lively episode features comedian, podcaster, and comedy producer Scott Aukerman joining hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally for an honest and hilarious conversation about health, balancing personal wellness with career, the emotional toll of body image, and the challenges of "staying alive"—not just in the literal health sense, but also in the cutthroat world of comedy, entertainment, and modern social media scrutiny. The trio blend personal anecdotes with larger discussions about ethics in comedy, audience perception, and the pressures of being a public figure, especially as a parent.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Travel Stories & Getting Searched by TSA

• The show opens with banter, including Jon’s comedic recounting of an aggressive TSA pat down.
• Jon Gabrus details his experience:

  "Bro, this is really inappropriate. They fucking hand all the way up... with their hand going into my waistband and around. And I was fucking kind. I felt. What's the word I'm looking for? Violated." [01:00]

2. The Origin of Podcasting Paths

• The hosts praise Scott as a “podfather,” likening his legacy to figures like Conan O’Brien and Lorne Michaels for his comedic mentorship and influence, especially for giving other comedians their starts.
• Jon Gabrus:

  "I mean, he gave me a start in podcasting by putting me on Comedy Bang Bang... it all started because of Scott, for better or for worse." [04:39]

3. Scott Aukerman’s Wellness Journey

Sleep, Injury, and Parenthood

• Scott jokes about his main health habit being sleep, then gets real about the ups and downs of health around parenthood, work, and injury.
• Shares about breaking his foot playing pickleball, leading to 2 years of recovery coinciding with birth of his daughter.
• Scott Aukerman:

  "It's been like this combination of having a kid, which now means I have, like, no time to do anything, and recovering, which I finally did about nine months or so ago." [08:28]

Weight, Diet, and Trainers

• Raised very skinny, metabolism changed at 25, leading to weight gain and fluctuating routines through adulthood.
• Recalls hiring an eccentric personal trainer—who devolved into paranoia and Torah numerology and eventually scammed him out of pre-paid sessions.
• Scott Aukerman:

  "He pulled out... a copy of the Torah... looking up verses... and it was like, the fire will rain down on you. And then he counted the dots... look, nine... the next verse, eleven..." [10:25]

Diet Tracking & TV Pressure

• Successful weight loss came through Weight Watchers (points-based system)—more effective for him than exercise.
• Scott Aukerman:

  "Within like, two months, I think I dropped 20 pounds just from diet. Math worked for me. These are numbers; if I stick to these numbers, it works." [14:33]

• Repeatedly had to slim down before each TV season, cycling between extreme discipline and relapse.

Body Image & Media Scrutiny

• The constant public critique of appearance, especially after TV exposure, prompted obsessiveness and diminished food pleasure.
• Scott Aukerman:

  "I just remember...for three years...I never ate anything for pleasure." [16:43]

4. Exercise Philosophy—From Vanity to Survival

• The hosts discuss how, as they age and become parents, motivations for health shift from vanity to function—being able to play with kids, avoid injury, and simply "stay alive."
• Scott Aukerman:

  "When you talk about exercise when you're young, it's all like, vanity. Then you get to a certain point where it's like, it's health... to stay alive." [21:20]

• Jokes about the existential challenge of making it to his young daughter’s high school graduation at age 71.

5. Modern Medicine, Pills, and Aging

• All share stories about embracing pills and preventative medicine—shrugging off stigma.
• Scott Aukerman:

  "Who the cares about taking a pill every day?... My doctor was saying that to me because I had really high cholesterol... You can try to fix this through diet and exercise. And it's gonna be a losing battle..." [24:50]

• Compare medicine acceptance to normalized things like wearing glasses.

6. Comedians, Body Image, and Being “Too Hot” for Comedy

• They question whether getting “ripped” (muscular) changes the comedic persona or relatability.
• Adam Pally:

  "Part of what made us who we are is that we look this way... do you need to be a non-object of sexual desire to be funny?" [30:32; 64:34]

• Scott Aukerman:

  "I think there's a certain amount of relatability that gets lost... there are only certain parts you can play when you're ripped." [31:13]

7. Appearance, Social Media, and the Burden of Always Being Seen

• They discuss the omnipresence of cameras and the increased pressure to always be "camera ready" due to podcast video, social media, or impromptu fan photos.
• Scott Aukerman:

  "I just don't want people to have to come camera ready for a show... it just feels like more of a chill environment." [36:14]

8. Comedy, Audiences, Ethics, and Responsibility

• Dive into audience media literacy, ethical lines in comedy, losing irony, and the struggle of being misconstrued.
• Anecdotes about Comedy Bang Bang and Action Boyz listeners confusing in-character bits for real views.
• Scott Aukerman:

  "There always has been this interesting point where comedy that's ironic becomes too popular and dumb shits like it for the wrong reasons." [44:51]

• The hosts wrestle with how much responsibility comedians have for their audience’s interpretations—and alignment (or not) with right-wing or problematic fan bases.
• Discussion of Riyadh Comedy Festival and culture of "getting the bag" (prioritizing money over ethics)—lamenting the loss of the concept of "selling out."
• John Gabrus:

  "If you're hoping no one notices, you're in the wrong." [58:12]

9. Culture Shift: From Selling Out to "Get Your Bag"

• Lament how the meaning of “selling out” in comedy has changed.
• Scott Aukerman:

  "There used to be a term called a sellout." [56:12]

• Compare to previous generations of comics, like Zach Galifianakis declining major ads for integrity reasons.

10. Aging, Family, and Identity

• Discussion interwoven about the pressures of family upbringing regarding looks, the rebellion for comfort, and accepting one’s own style as a form of bodily autonomy and self-acceptance.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jon Gabrus (TSA incident):

  "Fully on my nuts, fully going across the top of my dick... I felt truly violated." [01:00]

• Adam Pally (on maintaining balance):

  "Balance is the craziest thing to achieve, and you feel it for like a week, and you're like, God, I'm totally locked in." [20:04]

• Scott Aukerman (on food pleasure):

  "I just remember... for three years I never ate anything for pleasure." [16:43]

• Jon Gabrus (on audience confusion about comedian personas):

  "I'm finding people reacting negatively to stuff Gino has said on podcasts as if I actually believe it." [44:26]

• Adam Pally (on comedians and body image):

  "Do you need to be a non-object of sexual desire to be funny?" [64:34]

• Scott Aukerman (on social media and criticism):

  "I can't say it was not on my mind coming here going, like, fuck, why do I have to be on camera today?" [35:51]

• Scott Aukerman (on AI and ethics):

  "Everyone's a hypocrite in certain ways. But you can't excuse your own behavior by saying...well, you're all hypocrites too." [61:14]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Getting creative with airport drug smuggling stories — [02:12]
• Scott’s pickleball injury & new parenthood — [07:29]
• Weight Watchers, numbers-based diet talk — [14:35]
• The pressure of staying camera-ready, body image — [16:43]
• Switch from vanity to survival as an exercise motivator — [21:15]
• Pills/modern medicine and 'get over it' conversation — [23:39]
• Comedy, body image, and the "can hot people be funny" debate — [30:32, 64:34]
• Audience/media literacy and the risk of being misread — [44:26]
• Comedy ethics and "selling out" in the age of the bag — [54:09, 56:12]
• Final words: the legacy of supporting other comedians — [62:56]

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, irreverent, “grossly forthcoming,” and self-deprecating.
• Willing to mix hard truths about aging and wellness with genuinely funny riffs on bad trainers, airport gropings, and industry paradoxes.
• The episode moves fluidly between light recollection and heavier reflection, with laughter and candor throughout.

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In Summary

This episode is an entertaining, honest, and deep-dive roundtable with Scott Aukerman, exploring the messy realities of health, aging, and self-acceptance in comedy. They joke about absurd travel mishaps, discuss the physical and psychological toll of media exposure, debate the effect of changing your body as a comedian, and tackle thorny questions about ethics and audience in today’s comedy world. Fans will feel seen by the portrayal of industry insecurity and the difficult pursuit of balance, whether in body, mind, or public persona.

Recommended for: Anyone interested in comedy behind-the-scenes, modern health journeys, or the ethics of entertainment in the social media era.

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Related Links

• Scott Aukerman's Comedy Bang Bang World: Support CBB World
• Hosts' Other Projects: Adam Pally and Jon Gabrus both have regular podcast and television appearances; see their social channels for updates.

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Transcript

[Adam Pally]

Smart.

[John Gabrus]

Less media action. Starting now. Scott Arkerman. 21 questions. Here we go. Oh, how many pilots are there?

[Scott Aukerman]

Pilots like T?

[John Gabrus]

21.

[Adam Pally]

Every answer is gonna be 21. Here's a heads up on every answer for every question. 21.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

How old you have to be to drink?

[Scott Aukerman]

21.

[Adam Pally]

Thank God.

[John Gabrus]

What's your favorite Kevin Spacey movie? K backs Lost, but he stands by K packs. He always has it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Always will. Yo.

[John Gabrus]

Totally. I, I, I almost reported this to the tsa.

[Adam Pally]

What happened?

[John Gabrus]

I got dinged for a special screening or whatever, going through the. And I had to go through the puffer machine. And then they were like, oh, just step aside. You're a random screening. The TSA agent who checked me, I said to him, like, bro, this is really inappropriate. They fucking hand all the way up, like this part of their hand fully on my nuts, fully going across the top of my dick like this, with their hand going into my waistband and around. And I was fucking kind. I felt. What's the word I'm looking for? I can't think. Violated. I felt truly violated. And it was like first thing in the fucking morning. And I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm going to the guy. I'm like, really? He's like, turn around. I'm like, you have to do more. He's like. And he doesn't. He wasn't speaking great English. He's like, yes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I'm like. I'm like, this is happening out in, like, where everyone's going to get their bags. I'm standing over on the side, and, you know, there's like eight people waiting for their suitcases to come out, looking at me. And I got this guy fucking going around the ring of my fucking waistband. It was so upsetting. I did not like it at all. And I'm a creep.

[Adam Pally]

Getting dinged is the worst. Do they search your bag?

[John Gabrus]

No.

[Adam Pally]

That's good.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

No, that's good because that's another 25 minutes when you do. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Did you have weed on you? No. That's good.

[John Gabrus]

I think this was. I was flying international. I'm too afraid to try to get.

[Adam Pally]

We've talked about that. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I think the statue of limitations is gone. The craziest. I flew to Mexico one time and I peeled the weed tincture label off of a little glass vial and put a beard oil label on it, and it was fine. And it never got. So every morning I'm like, dropping fucking beard oil.

[Adam Pally]

It probably definitely tasted like that, too.

[John Gabrus]

If they checked it, they would have been like, I guess this is donut flavored beard oil.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, well, I told you, I got. I got stopped in Canada.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, and they went through all your medications because.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, because of when Hot Sauce went to the Montreal Comedy Festival. When me, Gil, and Ben went to the Montreal Comedy Festival, we got stopped at the border because a Gil didn't have his license.

[John Gabrus]

And you guys were. You drove in.

[Adam Pally]

We drove. And we had a trunk full of plastic guns and produce, because Gil did a bit where he brought 86 avocados in a bag, which you can't bring produce across the border. So since then, every time I fly in to.

[John Gabrus]

You're, like, on a list.

[Adam Pally]

I'm on a list, like, every time.

[John Gabrus]

And now we're getting gonna be. Because the way we talk on our podcast, we're gonna be on lists coming back in.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, for sure.

[John Gabrus]

So I'm gonna get, like, the antifa treatment at fucking Dallas Fort Worth. Oh, I can't go to enough of our bullshit. Let's bring the king of bullshit on podcasts out here.

[Adam Pally]

A true innovator. We've had a lot of pod daddies on this one. I know this may be the king.

[John Gabrus]

This. This put me on way more than Marin ever did. Oh, yeah, you. At least you get. You did do a wtf, by the way. We haven't talked about. I don't think we talked about the episode. Great episode.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, thanks.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. I don't even remember. It was a long time.

[John Gabrus]

I remember you were like, my closest friend to ever do it. And as a fan, it was when I stopped listening. Well, after I stopped listening to the show where I only cherry pick. I stopped listening to comics. Only listen to, like, interesting artists.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

But then I was like, ap. I got to throw it on.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I mean, that was like. That's like a highlight of my life.

[John Gabrus]

But I have not listened to all your comedy Bang Bang appearances.

[Adam Pally]

You've been on most of them.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I know. Well, no, I think I've been on, like 50 times on the show, too, which is another crazy stat.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, I mean, I really do. I think I mentioned it when we talked to him, but I really do equate this guy to, like, the Conan o', Briens, the Lorne Michaels, the, you know, finders, cultivators. Cultivators of comedic talent that have gone on to become, like, defining cultural icons.

[John Gabrus]

I mean, he gave me a start in podcasting by putting me on comedy Bang Bang. And I got podcast fans, and then I started my Own podcast now I'm pretty much everyone knows me as the guy who does so many podcasts. And it all started because of Scott, for better or for worse.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. I mean, he's so grateful. I think that's like, he's so funny and one of the great comedy writer and directors of our generation, but I think he'll also probably mostly be remembered as like one of the great assisters in your career.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, yeah, he just not you.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, the royal. The amount of people is wild.

[John Gabrus]

Well, let's stop sucking his dick off Mike and start sucking his dick on Mike.

[Adam Pally]

Nice.

[John Gabrus]

Ladies and gentlemen, Scotty.

[Scott Aukerman]

Thanks for having me on, guys. So what is this show again?

[John Gabrus]

The shoe is on the other foot now.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, totally.

[Adam Pally]

It doesn't feel so easy.

[John Gabrus]

Well, you were supposed to come with a fully prepared character.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

And I hope you watch the whole TV series.

[John Gabrus]

No here on Staying Alive.

[Scott Aukerman]

I did watch the whole TV series, by the way.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, good.

[Scott Aukerman]

I love that show. Oh, thank you. Your show.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I was talking about. I thought we were all gonna watch Shogun and talk about it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, okay. We can talk about your TV show if you want. No, no, let's do a recap show for your show.

[John Gabrus]

That'd be a really. Let's do six episodes of Staying Alive. That is just us reviewing our own show would be such a funny bullshit thing.

[Scott Aukerman]

Doing behind the scenes tidbits feels like.

[John Gabrus]

Shy 40 years after it came out. No one even cares. Scott, we actually do almost nothing on this show except ask the guests one question.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, okay.

[John Gabrus]

And are you ready for it?

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm ready.

[John Gabrus]

What do you do to Stay Alive? What are you doing? Well, I.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know, when I. I do this thing at night where I go to sleep and.

[John Gabrus]

And you only do this at night?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, I do it at night pretty much. Pretty much exclusively at night. Since I was a baby.

[Adam Pally]

Even for a little bit of time.

[Scott Aukerman]

Maybe for like 20 minutes to an.

[Adam Pally]

Hour and a half. So it does happen during the day.

[John Gabrus]

To an hour and a half.

[Adam Pally]

That's a wide window.

[John Gabrus]

It's a lot.

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean, I know they say, don't.

[Adam Pally]

Wake me 20 minutes or an hour and a half if I say if.

[Scott Aukerman]

I say if.

[Adam Pally]

If at 20 minutes, I say, leave me alone, don't come back for.

[Scott Aukerman]

I try to wake up in the morning. That's normally. Ooh, that's a good thing. You know what I mean?

[John Gabrus]

Cause that's one of the foundational parts of being alive, is waking up.

[Scott Aukerman]

Is waking up. Because I find if I don't Then I'm dead.

[Adam Pally]

You don't exercise.

[Scott Aukerman]

I've had a long history of fluctuating weight and exercise.

[Adam Pally]

I feel like a year ago when the last time we hung out, you had a cast on from an injury.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

An athletic injury.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes. So that your good friend David Casp is responsible for.

[Adam Pally]

We've all had an athletic injury from David.

[John Gabrus]

No.

[Scott Aukerman]

I was playing pickleball with David and Casey and my wife right before my daughter was born. And this is when I was in pretty good shape. Not the best I was ever in, because that was during the TV show, but I was in good shape. I was exercising even while on vacation. I was like, we went to Hawaii with David and Casey, and you got on the treadmill and I exercised three times that week we were there. I went to the gym three times.

[John Gabrus]

If you go to the gym three times on vacation, you should be an Olympian.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. You're training for something.

[John Gabrus]

We're giving you a gold medal as a guest.

[Scott Aukerman]

And this is in Hawaii, one of the most beautiful places. I'm in the gym, just like on the cycle, feeling good, doing weights. So then a couple of months before my daughter was born, we were playing pickleball on a different vacation and I broke my foot. And that then led to a long two year process of being in casts, getting foot surgery, all this kind of.

[John Gabrus]

Stuff, recovering and then dealing with the injuries you have from walking in a cast.

[Scott Aukerman]

So then I had my daughter while I was in the boot, and I was dealing with that. And then. So it's been like this combination of having a kid, which now means I have, like, no time to do anything, and recovering, which I finally did about nine months or so ago, recovering from this foot injury, which has just like knocked me out of mentally of doing any kind of exercise or anything like that. But usually I would be on the peloton and doing weight training.

[Adam Pally]

When you were two things on the TV show, you were in your best shape. Was that primarily, like, out of vanity? No, I was gonna say diet change or like, what got you there?

[Scott Aukerman]

So I was.

[John Gabrus]

Cause normally when I'm in production is when I'm at.

[Adam Pally]

That's when I become a mess.

[Scott Aukerman]

Cause there's. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And you're hosting, writing, executive producing, showrunning.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. So I was really skinny growing up until about 25, when my metabolism totally changed. And then so I gained, like, a lot of weight. And I was pretty much during my 30s. I was pretty steadily. I had a trainer for a good portion of it, but he turned out to be insane.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, I gotta hear in what way?

[Scott Aukerman]

A lot of different ways. But he. It was through. Through a gym that I signed up.

[Adam Pally]

And he was David Spade's assistant. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Great reference. But I signed up for a gym and then they said, you know, you can really get results if you have a trainer and you pay extra for the train. So I got this guy, he was this Brazilian guy who was pretty good, and I liked him. And I remember my wife saying, like, you're in love with him. Because I would always talk about things he said, like the first month or whatever it was, that honeymoon period. Oh, he says, I gotta do this. And then he got fired from the gym and he was like, can I train you off at my house? And so I quit the gym and started just paying him directly for these sessions. And then he started being like, hey, can you pay me in advance for these sessions? And then it got to the point of like, I know you've already paid me in advance for the next six months. Can you pay me for the next six months?

[John Gabrus]

And you get locked into like a year long contract with this guy.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, so I've just fed this guy so much money that he swears he'll pay me back in training. And then the last kind of thing that ever happened was the day after 9, 11. I had a session with him and I went to his house and he's like, come in here, come in here, come in here. And he pulled out the toy. He had like a copy of the Torah. And he started like looking up verses in it of like, I don't know, whatever book, ezekiel or whatever, 9, 11. And it was like, the fire will rain down on you. And then he counted the dots above the Hebrew letters and he was like, look, nine. And then the next verse, 11. And I was just like, okay, okay. And this took up my entire session. I was like, all right, man, well, okay. Am I not paying for this one? He's like, no, you're paying for, for this one. I was just like, all right, this is. This guy's just become too insane.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, like, all right, just. God bless you. Just got nine months of free training. I'm just going to walk away.

[Scott Aukerman]

Exactly. So I just walked away. I saw him one other time when. When the Embar. I was doing the comedy death ray show over there and they had an open mic on a different night. And he wandered into the bar and he saw me. He's like, oh, hi. And I was like, oh, hey, man. He goes, I'm going to Try this. And he went up and then was an insane.

[John Gabrus]

This is the craziest thing you've said about him so far.

[Scott Aukerman]

Then he was an insane person, just not even telling stories, just like saying weird things. And everyone was like laughing really uncomfortably. And he came off stage and he goes, they were laughing at me. And I said, dude, they were laughing at you. Like a lot of pent up resentment. I think the fact that I. But I feel like I paid for that insult.

[John Gabrus]

Well, yeah, well, now you're also on your terms.

[Adam Pally]

Once he comes into a comedy club, all bets are off. It's like, hey, how about this? Pay me a year in advance, I'll teach you how to do comedy.

[Scott Aukerman]

Exactly. I just never show up.

[John Gabrus]

That's a real quick explanation of how status works, where you're like, okay, when we're at the gym, you can boss me around a little. But here I kind of win. I used to teach improv and I was explaining status and I'm like, it's not always the rich guy or the smart guy because sometimes, like, I'm a slob. But right now I have high status because I know about improv and you guys and I'm teaching you. And I leaned back in my chair, my chair broke and I flipped over backwards and I go, and now you have the snacks from here.

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[Scott Aukerman]

But when I had the trainer, I was noticing I wasn't. Nothing was really changing all that much for me. And it wasn't until I did this series in order to get the comedy Bang Bang TV show series of like shorts for the network and I did the pilot and then the pilot ended and then the beginning of the year happened and Weight Watchers, I think, was having a special and I signed up for it. And I had never known anything about these kind of apps that are pretty common now. Points and stuff. Yeah, the points and all that kind of stuff. Like the keep track of the carbs and the calories and all that kind of stuff. And so it was all kind of brand new and it was math And I could keep track of everything. So then I became, like, really obsessed with keeping to that system. And within, like, two months, I think I dropped 20 pounds just from diet. And I wasn't exercising just from diet.

[John Gabrus]

And you said it was math in a positive way. That's something that works for you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, that worked for me. Yeah. Where it was just like, oh, okay, these are numbers. If I stick to these numbers, it works. And it did. And so I. In between the pilot and the second episode, I was like 20 pounds lighter. And that. That, I think, also got me prepared to do the TV show because IFC was like, oh, okay, he's actually in shape.

[Adam Pally]

We can put this slob on television.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, exactly. I remember I had to go to a meeting out in Santa Monica and I was like, it was raining that day. I was like, I think I'm going to bail on this. And the head of the network was like, oh, no, you don't understand. This is so they can look at you in person and see if you're okay to be on tv. And I was like, oh, okay, it just sucks. So then during the show, it was a combination of I would just do cardio and do the points, and I.

[John Gabrus]

Just set up that system for yourself. Rolling into it. So now you're not trying to reinvent the wheel while you're like, built yourself a pattern or something to lean on.

[Scott Aukerman]

And it worked. I mean, I got down to like 188 pounds, I think, during the TV show and at the beginning of each season. And the first season, I remember the first season I was like £188. And I think it only took 10 days to film or something like that. And then the minute the season was over, I started kind of eating normally again. And I remember when I got the call that season two was picked up, I remember feeling disappointed because I had to lose all the weight again. And it was like. And I'm sure I was also excited, but. But that's my memory of it was that it was tinged with this drag.

[John Gabrus]

Back to the point.

[Adam Pally]

It sounds like you've always kept an eye on your weight. Like you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Since you were a kid, you.

[Scott Aukerman]

No, I was always super skinny and made fun of for that reason. So it never was anything that I.

[John Gabrus]

When the metabolism stops on the lanky guys, that's when you're like.

[Adam Pally]

Especially if you've been made fun of for being lanky. And then you're like, shit, now I'm gonna get it for this. There's nowhere to go.

[Scott Aukerman]

And Then also when you're just on TV in general, you know, you're getting a lot of like, oh, you're ugly, your smile is weird, your teeth is fucked up, you have a weird body. Like, you're hearing that all the time. So the five seasons I was on that show, it became after season one, I had to lose all the weight again. It happened again on season two. I was like, fuck, all right, here we go. Season three, all right, I lost all the weight again. Luckily, between three, four and five were all one thing over three years where we didn't have a break. So it was just like, luckily. But that three years luckily for the network pay scale, that three years. I just remember my remembrance of it is I never ate anything for pleasure. My father, who was on a G tube before he died, I remember him saying something that I kind of related to, which was like, he goes, after a certain time, you don't even miss food. Like, you don't even think about it. And I was like, yeah. I mean, that's kind of how I felt too. Like, I would have a cheat day or whatever and be like, this sounds disgusting to me to have a burger or something like that. Because I was just so in the zone of I can't have anything, you know? So I just. For three years I did that. And then when the show ended, I think I got a little bit more like, oh, okay, now I can kind of be a normal person. I'll still workouts. And I did a better. Where it wasn't just cardio routine. I was actually lifting weights and doing all that kind of stuff. So it was like a little more normal. And then all this happened with the breaking my foot and having a baby. You start all over it. So it truly does feel like that. I saw my doctor recently where he said, you look good, you're fine. I don't see. And your health is fine. I don't see any problems. He goes, you have gained 20 pounds in the last two years. Like, is that something you care about? Do you want to do anything about that? And I was like, yeah, I do. I don't necessarily have any expectations I'm going to be on camera again. So it's not.

[John Gabrus]

It's not as that is. That is something that is pressing. And then you just, like, at some point get over it where you're like, I'm a fat pig. Who cares? Roll tape.

[Adam Pally]

I always think I always. Because I'm not like a skinny guy naturally, like, if I'm down weight, I'm really trying to do that. And sometimes it does come from, like, a movie. Like this last movie, I had to lose some weight for it. And then as soon as we wrapped, you're just like, well, I deserve a full pizza, you know, like, every day, every year, until you get to, like, another place where you're like, okay, that's enough full pizzas. You know, like, I can now I gotta get ready for the next thing. I feel like, what can be dangerous for me in that is it's so emotionally tied to if I have a next thing at the moment. So, like, you're like. You come off something where you were losing weight for being in good shape, and then it's kind of blue skies, there's nothing ahead of you.

[Scott Aukerman]

So you kind of see you slip right back into.

[Adam Pally]

Right back.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. And then a thing comes up and you.

[Adam Pally]

And you're not ready for it, and.

[John Gabrus]

You'Re like, fuck, why didn't I just.

[Adam Pally]

I could have been ready for this.

[John Gabrus]

I could have went down to, like, 80% strength, you know, I didn't have.

[Adam Pally]

It doesn't have to be. Be one way or the other. Which is the thing we always talk about, bro.

[John Gabrus]

This is what we're dealing with.

[Adam Pally]

Balance is the craziest thing to achieve, and you feel it for like a week, and you're like, God, I'm totally locked in.

[Scott Aukerman]

And then also, if you. If you get into these habits, what do they say? How long does it take to just.

[John Gabrus]

Everyone says different things, but, like, 13.

[Scott Aukerman]

Days in a row or 20, whatever.

[John Gabrus]

Everyone has a different number there.

[Scott Aukerman]

But when you just get back into eating again, it's just like after those day, that amount of days, it's just kind of your lifestyle again, you know, And. And it's tough because with, you know, I'm in this weird position where I'm an older guy with a very young child that I have to pick up all the time.

[John Gabrus]

Not weird in la, but weird everywhere else.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, not in your neighborhood, but it's definitely. I'm feeling it where it's like, you.

[John Gabrus]

Gotta get down on the ground with her. Get up, stand up, pick her up.

[Scott Aukerman]

And there's a lot of, like, come down here and play with me. I'm like, daddy's not doing that. And it's just like, even. Just being limber and. And feeling like I can bend over and stretch and even just walking upstairs now, you know, like, I had to be in. I had to be in. What do they call it? Oh, rehab or whatever for my knees and stuff like that. And I'M feeling it again. Whereas when I'm working out regularly on a peloton or whatever, my legs are strong, my back is strong.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

Everything feels good. And I can pick her up, but I haven't been able to do that the entire time. She's.

[John Gabrus]

It's kind of a crazy thing because, like, when you talk about exercise when you're young, it's all like, like vanity.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Then you get to a certain point where it's like, it's health. It's like, you should be exercising to stave off death, to stay alive. Tm. And then there's also like, have you.

[Scott Aukerman]

TM did, by the way.

[Adam Pally]

We should.

[John Gabrus]

We should. We can't.

[Scott Aukerman]

Barry Gibbs might have something to say about that. That was what that said.

[Adam Pally]

Forest Git.

[Scott Aukerman]

The notorious GI B B.

[John Gabrus]

But then you get to a certain point where you're like, being out of shape is preventing me from doing the things I want to do. And then this is a very specific thing of like, I want to be in shape so I could be a better dad or a more like acting. It's like all of a sudden you realize you're like, fuck, that's a crazy place to be in. Then when you were like 24 and just naturally lean, you're like, I want biceps.

[Scott Aukerman]

And not only a better dad, but literally an alive dad. Right. We think about that sometimes of just like, most of my relatives have stayed, have died in their 90s or something like that. So I'm sort of like always in my head, I was kind of like, oh, I have that amount of time probably. But it really feels like having a baby at 52, it's like, shit, am I gonna be alive? And it's one of those things where you want to be to see what you had.

[John Gabrus]

High school graduation.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. Or 71 now we found out because she was born so late in the year. So it's like when I heard, I was just like, mentally I could keep it together till 70, but 70, fucking wonderful.

[John Gabrus]

It is like when your trainer says one more round and you're like, I just did. And like, no, but you didn't do the right amount. You're like, now it feels impossible.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, but it's different now. Like, everyone lives so much later. There's. Everyone looks so much better for longer.

[Scott Aukerman]

I wasn't a smoker.

[Adam Pally]

Right. And you're a med. Do you take medication? You're not like an anti science person?

[Scott Aukerman]

No, no. I have a really good doctor who, who practices preventative medicine. Instead of just like as he Says instead of other doctors, who you go in whenever there's something wrong. He's like, I see him regularly. He takes my blood. He figures out what I need to be taking every day. I have a large pill box of 15 things that I take.

[John Gabrus]

Welcome to the crew, right? Yeah, big guy, big old fucking box. Am NPM on mine.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, me too.

[Adam Pally]

But there's. I always hear people, like, sometimes be like, oh, I don't want to take another pill I don't want to take now. Am I going to take this for the rest of my life?

[John Gabrus]

I'm like, what's the fucking difference?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. My doctor was saying that to me because I had really high cholesterol. That was the other thing about having that TV show is I didn't see a doctor or a dentist for years because it just took up all my time. And I remember being so scared when I went to see the dentist the month after the show ended. I was just like, here we go.

[John Gabrus]

And dude, dude, the guilt you feel before when you go to the dentist, you're like, I pushed back a dentist appointment once to try to spend a week flossing and brushing. I crammed for the dentist.

[Scott Aukerman]

You will never brush harder than right before the dentist when you haven't been.

[John Gabrus]

There a long time. The longest I've ever brushed my teeth is the morning of a dentist appointment.

[Scott Aukerman]

But I remember I went in, I was just like, all right, give me the bad news. And they were poked around and stuff for 15 minutes. They go, all right, see you in six months. And I was just like, nothing, really. And I'd been stressing about it for so long. But, yeah, I think I forget why we were talking.

[John Gabrus]

You were saying, then you went back to the doctor. You started going to the doctor more seriously after surgery.

[Scott Aukerman]

I had really high cholesterol. And that was a thing where he said to me, well, you can try to fix this through diet and exercise. And it's gonna be a losing battle because it's just. You'll have to really stay on top of it and be like. And this is even after losing all the weight and doing all the years of.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

This is after having diet and exercise.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. And he's like, you can try it or you can take a P every day. And what's that, a statin? Yeah. Statin, yeah. He goes, you can take a pill every day. He goes, some people don't want to take pills every day. I go, who the cares about taking a pill every day?

[Adam Pally]

I mean, it's. It's the number One thing I hear from people who like don't want to take medicine is like another thing I have to do every day or now I'm going to be dependent. What? I'm going to be dependent on this for the rest of my life.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sure.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, okay, are. You're alive? Yeah, you're alive.

[Scott Aukerman]

And also, what's. I mean, I have it with my coffee in the morning. It's like it's a thing I do every single day.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's like, I don't understand what the big deal. I'd say I'm pro.

[Scott Aukerman]

We're living in an age of modern medicine that can actually cure this kind of stuff or prevent. Or prevent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I mean like I've always been like a meathead. So it's like always been like when I was in, in my teens, you're like taking creatine pills. Like nothing ever like bothered, you know what I mean? Like I never, when there was like, now it's time for medicine. I'm like, oh man, I wish I didn't need blood pressure medicine, but if I do, I'll just take it every morning.

[Scott Aukerman]

What?

[John Gabrus]

You tell me what I gotta do.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, tell me what to take it and I'll take it.

[John Gabrus]

If you needed glasses, you wouldn't be like, oh fuck, now I gotta wear glasses every day.

[Scott Aukerman]

I did feel like that when I had to get my glasses at the end of the TV show. I was noticing anytime I would look at my phone, it would be out here and I'd be like, huh? And someone goes like, I think you need glasses. I was like, oh, really? I just naturally did it. I was like, just, oh, this is where I can read my phone.

[Adam Pally]

Have you thought about lasik? Because I heard it doesn't work that good anymore.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, also, I think after a certain age, it's just not even.

[John Gabrus]

Faster than like the LASIK can cure.

[Adam Pally]

I had a question for you.

[John Gabrus]

LASIK scares the. I'm thinking about getting a vasectomy and LASIK scares the out of me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, lasik, are you getting a vasectomy?

[John Gabrus]

So I could do direct deposits?

[Scott Aukerman]

Hell yeah, buddy. I love that. High five.

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[Adam Pally]

I was gonna ask you a question about. Cause you, you are not just a podfather, but you're like a comedy.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm not just a podfather.

[Adam Pally]

No, you're a comedy father too.

[John Gabrus]

I'm also the president.

[Adam Pally]

You're like. But you are. You're like a comedy. Like it's like you and Jon Stewart and Lorne Michaels like people who like you identify talent and like you put them on and so you've seen a lot of. Of comedians. You've seen everybody. And you know what they do have you. How do you feel when like a comedian gets ripped? Do you feel like it affects them? Because that's a big thing that we talk about a lot is like part of our Personas are in. Are in great. Like part of what made us who we are. And our appeal is that we look this way.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

And you know, I think there's a.

[Scott Aukerman]

Certain amount of relatability that gets lost. And there are only certain parts you can play when you're. When you're ripped. Ripped. I think it's not a bad idea to have a regular body while being thinner necessarily, depending on your body type as well. But I think the ones who get super ripped for a certain movie or something like that, I mean, Paul Rudd kind of did it, but then it feels like he also. Why can't they just CGI this stuff?

[John Gabrus]

My thing, one step beat before CGI is the Ant man doesn't need to be ripped to be Ant Man. He's a scientist. Hank Pym.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, he was. Come on now. He was a thief. Thief.

[Adam Pally]

Gymnast.

[Scott Aukerman]

Michael Douglas was a scientist.

[John Gabrus]

Sorry, I got confused with the original.

[Scott Aukerman]

Antman, but you're right. But the Marvel movies back then had one scene. Every Marvel movie where the guy would take off his shirt.

[Adam Pally]

Paul Rudd's first one is so funny too, because he's doing the classic chubby guy look. Hide any fat you have because it's like his shot turned around.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And he's like this.

[Scott Aukerman]

You studied this.

[Adam Pally]

I knew exactly. I saw that. I saw that pose. I'm like Paul giving it the old chubber you know, because it's like his shirt's half off.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean, but he did a good. Pretty good job.

[Adam Pally]

Yokes now. I mean. And I feel like he did.

[John Gabrus]

Mark Ruffalo had it best. He like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Mark Ruffalo can be.

[John Gabrus]

Bruce Banner doesn't. Or David Banner.

[Adam Pally]

Whatever.

[John Gabrus]

He goes by Bruce.

[Scott Aukerman]

He's Bruce.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

David was the. Paul changed.

[Adam Pally]

I feel like Paul did one of those things that a lot of people did where they, like, stop drinking. They. You know what I mean? Like, where it's like diet change, stop drinking. And then they also are in superhero movies.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I think you can get. Comedy guys can get ripped. Comedy people can get ripped. We're mostly talking about the men here.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Unfortunately, aesthetics is an even bigger minefield for women in comedy and entertainment in general.

[Adam Pally]

We definitely shouldn't talk about.

[Scott Aukerman]

We should have a guest on to talk about.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, well, with the appropriate guest.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

This is not that episode.

[John Gabrus]

Right. Here we are. We're back with Scott Ackman and women's bodies. Women's bodies. What do you like? What do you hate?

[Scott Aukerman]

What do you love?

[John Gabrus]

What should we be in control of?

[Scott Aukerman]

But I also, I also.

[John Gabrus]

Sorry, real quick. I just think that sometimes an attitude change comes with it. Whereas, like, if this person was just like, low key, also jacked, but didn't change their person, it didn't become, like, their thing. There's like this, like, impulse for comedy people to do sexy photo shoots now. I think because of.

[Scott Aukerman]

I've never understood.

[Adam Pally]

I don't understand that either. I feel like, like, it. Like any impulse I've had for a photo shoot is always like, comedic. In. In. Because you're like, well, this is.

[John Gabrus]

Or clothing based.

[Adam Pally]

Or clothing or. But even clothing based. It's like when I've done those, I'm like, well, there's an angle on it. Like, what's the thing?

[Scott Aukerman]

There's also just. When you're a comedy person, they force you to. To hold props.

[Adam Pally]

Always.

[Scott Aukerman]

I had to. With Earwolf. I had to wear fuzzy ears for the Ferns movie. I had to have a big plant. Like, it's just like, they can't ever take a handsome picture.

[Adam Pally]

The only time I've ever up a fight, and that was sonic the Hedgehog 2. Like, poster day, you know, which is like, usually the last day of filming when everyone's there, they're like, we're gonna do Poster Day. They brought me in and they handed me a bagel and I was like, I, I, I can't, I can't.

[John Gabrus]

I'M hearing thousands of my ancestors at once telling me I shouldn't be doing this.

[Adam Pally]

I can't be on the poster of a movie holding a bagel.

[Scott Aukerman]

Did you eat a bagel in the movie ever?

[Adam Pally]

I, I, I did in. I made a, There's a line reference.

[John Gabrus]

I, I ate three every day. Off camera?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. No, on camera. No. There's a scene where I do ask, like, what do you want in your bagel? But like, to hold the bagel in the poster. I was like, guys, I'm also in the movie.

[Scott Aukerman]

Like, yeah. And, and you're a policeman.

[Adam Pally]

A police officer.

[John Gabrus]

So it's like.

[Scott Aukerman]

So it should have be like a gun.

[Adam Pally]

A gun.

[Scott Aukerman]

Or a donut.

[Adam Pally]

Or donut.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, even a donut. You don't understand.

[Adam Pally]

I begged for a donut. I was like, give me a donut. They're like, we don't want to do a cop holding a donut.

[John Gabrus]

We'd rather do a jewel.

[Adam Pally]

Much better.

[John Gabrus]

Guys.

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean, this business is also just definitely. It's just hard because there's so much criticism of you all the time. You know what I mean? It's just.

[John Gabrus]

And it's rarely about the content.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And usually it's the criticism is like, based on, like, who you are as a person. Like something that you even can't fundamentally change.

[Scott Aukerman]

But it's hard to even, like, you know, I go out on tour and just knowing that there'll be quite a few people who are just like, oh, he looks like shit. Or, you know, like, or even just doing a show like this. I'm on camera right now.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

I can't say it was not on my mind coming here going, like, fuck, why do I have to be on camera today?

[John Gabrus]

Well, I would say you're OG in that you have an insanely popular podcast that's never jumped to YouTube.

[Scott Aukerman]

And I don't want to. Not just for reasons of, like, creatively, I think it's, well, it's a little.

[John Gabrus]

Crazier to be like, I'm a one foot tall.

[Adam Pally]

There is no way we could have done Yesterday's episode on YouTube.

[Scott Aukerman]

But I also just don't want people to have to come camera ready for a show because it's like, it just feels, it just feels like more of a chill environment.

[John Gabrus]

When jumping back to what you said about not wanting to have to be camera ready everywhere you go, I'd say in current culture that's blown up out of even just entertainment, where, like, I now am self conscious. Cause you'll be out with friends and they'll be like, let's pose for a picture and be like, no, I wore sweatpants. Cause we were just getting coffee with friends. And now it's like your three friends in fucking, like, produced layers and outfits, and they're grabbing a photo at a cafe, and you're like, oh, I'm dressed to meet friends at a cafe. Cafe. Not to see people.

[Adam Pally]

It's very hard to maintain your sense of self in that, to be like, well, I don't care.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

I went to a concert the other night, and, like, literally just. It was right down the street from my house. So I just put some clothes on, met a friend there five minutes before the band, and then was taking an Uber right back the minute it was done. And there was a fan there who's like, can I take a picture? And I'm sitting there going, God damn it. I'm wearing shitty clothes. I haven't shaved, so I have, like, a big gray beard. You know, like the things you try to hide when you're putting stuff out there. And it's not because I'm sitting there looking at my own pictures going, like, great. I look fantastic, or anything like that. It's because there have been a lot.

[Adam Pally]

Of.

[Scott Aukerman]

Things on the Internet about me where people like, I'll be on someone's show, like one of these shows, and people go like, wow, he looks like shit. You know? And then 50 people discussing what I should be doing order to look better. And it's just like, why do I have to deal with that? You know?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. No, it's like. And you're like, judge me for what I'm doing on, like, you. You would say. You say like, oh, he wasn't that funny, or he was.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Like, that's like. You're allowed to be like. To me, that's like, he didn't make me laugh as Gino. But then it'll just be like, sometimes it'll be like something about, like, your looks or your appearance or your voice.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I wish you would stop saying.

[Adam Pally]

Women get it most. Like, I remember even, like, the early days of YouTube. It wouldn't matter what you were posting if there was a woman in it. Yes, the comments were going to be vile.

[Scott Aukerman]

That was. That was the early days of Bang Bang, too, where I would find a female performer that I really loved. And you could always count on their first three. Their first three podcasts that they would do, people going like, this person's voice is annoying. And people just piling on and piling on. Then around the fourth time they'd go. This is how it would go. They would go like, oh, I think I finally get them. I have a comedy crush on them. Which is like, no one needs to know that you want to stick your dirty dick into a female like a comedian. This is the only way where she.

[John Gabrus]

Turns a corner for you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Where you're like, well, now that I want to her, I think I can listen to it, you know? And then finally it's mom and Madonna, right? That's what they say. Like, it's either your mom, mom or.

[Adam Pally]

A mom or a.

[Scott Aukerman]

And then finally after a little while, people, it like crosses into. Oh, they're one of my favorites. I feel like those days. Or we. We're past that a little.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's moving. It's moving quicker now.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, it's moving in a better direction.

[Adam Pally]

But I think it's also evening out the other way too, where. Where everyone is subject to feeling like a woman in the early YouTube, you know what I mean? Where it's like, we're all fair game now because it. It's not even just about what you look like. It's who you are, like what you're, you know, anything. And you're going to get it in the comments.

[Scott Aukerman]

And I think that I grew up in a way that I really started to notice it when I was very concerned about my own looks and being on camera and stuff like that. And I started to realize that anytime I would have a conversation with my mother especially, she would always. If she was telling a story about someone, she would always describe what was different about them first, so be it. She would always say, like, oh, you know, the woman who has gained a lot of weight who, you know, blah, blah, blah. Oh, you know, the, you know, different race.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

You know, like aggressive nationalism in a way.

[Scott Aukerman]

In a way it's like, hey, whatever. Isn't the. In her mind what makes a person regular looking, which is white and skinny? You know what I mean? So she would go like, oh, you know the news anchor, by the way, she's like, gained 30 pounds over the past. You know, it's like, I don't care.

[John Gabrus]

You know, and it's not even part of this story. Just get to where it was.

[Adam Pally]

And I know the news anchor. Yeah, I know the one you're talking about.

[Scott Aukerman]

But I started to notice that, oh, I grew up in a household that put a lot of, like, importance on how you looked and how, you know, like, trying to be. Trying to fit into whatever made someone normal, you know what I mean, yeah, me too.

[John Gabrus]

And my mom and dad were specific to like looking presentable.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

And that was what mattered. And then I think I rebelled against that and like leaned into like that Jack Black kind of like I'm wearing Crocs and like a bathing suit out at the.

[Adam Pally]

And it's also comfort.

[John Gabrus]

That's comfort. Well, that's the other thing is too, is that I was never comfortable dressed like that. And so now I wear shorts and short sleeves every single day. Yeah, because.

[Adam Pally]

But I feel like your ethos is like, I'm an adult and I'm in charge of my life and I will not spend any more time than I have to. Uncomfortable.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. And you also, you just, you have a style to yourself. You know what I mean? It's like Jess McKenna, you know, like she has that particular style that she likes that she feels comfortable in.

[John Gabrus]

And we line up from like May to September. We're dress exactly the same every time we see each other.

[Adam Pally]

It crosses seasonally.

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[John Gabrus]

There's a whole nother layer to the getting judged by the audience now that I want to throw out there for you guys. Where people have lost, and I think podcasting is the reason this happened is because a lot of people play themselves and talk as themselves on podcasts and we're more familiar with comedy, with comedians points of view. And I think in. And social media blows that up too, where we know every actor's POV point of view on different things. I think now, like, we're on trial for things that like your character like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm finding people reacting negatively to stuff Gino has said on podcasts as if I actually believe it. Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

Or. And because I'm playing myself on the show.

[John Gabrus]

Right?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. But I'm often saying something that's like a contrary point of view for comedic effect or whatever. You know, people think I actually mean it or something like that.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Scott hates this bullshit.

[Adam Pally]

Do you think that that's just because there's like a loss of media literacy 100% or sarcasm literacy? Because we're not.

[Scott Aukerman]

We're not like irony.

[Adam Pally]

Irony is lost. It's all on text. Or like, it's like.

[Scott Aukerman]

But there always has been this interesting point where comedy that's ironic becomes too popular and people and dumb shits like it for the wrong reasons. You know, I remember Tenacious D because I've been seeing them, you know, since they started doing it. We were, you know, peers doing the. I remember they were like, thought that we were ripping off their act at some point, my partner and I, because they heard like someone else was in a two man thing and then they saw us.

[Adam Pally]

Two men.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, we're the only two men. Yeah, exactly.

[John Gabrus]

Zero musical talent.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, they don't play music.

[Scott Aukerman]

But they. But. But I remember the point where suddenly they were playing the House of Blues and. And Odenkirk and I went to see them at the House of Blues and there were way more people there than when it was just a little tiny largo or something like that. And we looked around and it was all jocks, like, singing along to these songs that we found to be ironic.

[Adam Pally]

Like, fuck her hard.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, fuck her gently or whatever, you know, and going like, oh, there's a weird vibe to this crowd where they're like. Like they don't see the irony and they're just like, yes, this is the way that People should be acting, and it's that strange.

[Adam Pally]

Danny McBride fans, that's where I find it the most in common, because, like.

[John Gabrus]

Rick and Morty fans.

[Adam Pally]

Rick.

[John Gabrus]

Rick and morty fans.

[Adam Pally]

Danny McBride is like my. I feel like my number one.

[John Gabrus]

One of the funniest human beings alive.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Like North Star. As far as, like, projects. I want to make the way he does it, but his fan base, it's tough. Tough.

[Scott Aukerman]

And do you have a responsibility to make sure that your fan base explicitly gets it? Probably not, because I don't know that an artist has any kind of responsibility.

[Adam Pally]

The only part where there is responsibility is who you align with after, like. Yeah, there is a question of, like, going, like, going on Theo Vaughn to promote your work is like, a questionable thing.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Because it's like that. The response of what has happened, the fallout of that dude is really bad.

[Scott Aukerman]

I feel like Seth Rogen navigates it really well where, like, he. He has been involved in projects that could be, you know, have been ironically, you know, viewed, but also viewed by so many people that he could have a fan base who's just like, oh, my God, you're so incel. You know? And yet he spends his time off camera sort of making sure that everyone knows where he stands on issues and being smart and not doing.

[John Gabrus]

He's an EP on the Boys, which is a good example of people who are like, homelander fucking rules.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, that's a great example where suddenly in the fourth season, it clicked with certain people of like, oh, you're making fun of us, right?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

And this season sucks because you're making fun of us. No, it's been there since the beginning of. And since the comic. The comic was all about.

[John Gabrus]

But you have to, like. You have to, like, ramp up the, like, you have to, like.

[Scott Aukerman]

All right.

[John Gabrus]

We have to be even more blatant and hamfish the action boy place on a small scale, because we talk about these 70s, 80s and 90s action movies, we're pulling in a very specific type of listener on. On Patreon, which is already kind of like a weird. Kind of.

[Scott Aukerman]

And you're three guys, and we're three.

[John Gabrus]

Men in our 40s.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Who are all heterosexual. And we're talking about.

[Scott Aukerman]

I didn't know that.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, well, we're not all I love myself.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know why you had to say that. I don't know how that changes.

[Scott Aukerman]

Are you trying to get chicks from this podcast?

[John Gabrus]

We're all single, heterosexual, big ear. We huge hogs. Non toxic masculine. No, but we're like, and we're talking about guns and breasts and all this shit that's in these. And then every once in a while, we'll absolutely trigger like a handful of listeners. Here's one of the biggest things that activated a bunch of people. We were talking about future fashion in sci fi movies. It's like, no one ever really gets it right. And he's like, based on where America's headed now, we believe the future of fashion will be super lightweight, comfortable, bulletproof clothing for kids. Cause you'll like, there's guns, global warming, and people went apeshit on us. Here they go with the liberal agenda. And I'm like, this is not even. We're just making a joke.

[Scott Aukerman]

And.

[John Gabrus]

And then we realized we're like, all right, we have to like every couple episodes just drop some shit so people know that we're not like, Right. And look, you're not like, Michael Jordan says, republicans want buy some kids.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, no, I'm sorry, what else he said?

[Adam Pally]

Jordan. Jordan.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, sorry.

[John Gabrus]

He goes like, republicans buy sneakers too, is what he like famously said. Right? Like, you know, I'm like, I would. I'll take Republican. I'll take fucked up people's money on. But I, I don't want them to think they, Yeah, I, I set co sign any of the shit they're saying.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, it's an interesting thing that I've, I mean, you know, look, I started on Mr. Show, which is just like, was a reaction to sketch shows at the time of like, hey, sketch shows are very, are very safe and sanitized and we're. And I, I can't tell you the first time I ever saw Bob David, just how insane it was to see sketches with cursing in it. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

It's wild. I forget that's why it was on HBO After Dark.

[Scott Aukerman]

It was just like, oh my God, they're saying fuck so many times in these sketches. And he was revolutionary. And then I worked on the show and you always. Bob was very good about teaching us, hey, you have to have a point of view. I know, I know. Making fun of this thing that like punching down essentially is funny, but you have to have a point of view on it and you have to be on the right side of it. And you have to be trying to say. You have to at least be trying to say something about why you're doing this in order for it to be on the show, you know? So I thought that was really good and it was something that I thought about. But, you know, I've trafficked in, you know, offensive comedy. I made a pilot called the Offensive Show.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

I played Johnny Depp on your podcast.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's right.

[John Gabrus]

I was on that episode.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, very funny. And Comedy Bang Bang has done that over the years. But it's kind of one of these things where you also have to place it in the proper way in what was happening in culture at the time, you know what I mean? And it's like, I remember when we made the Michael Bolton Big Sexy Valentine's Day special. We were filming it literally when Trump got elected that week, and it came out in February right after he was inaugurated. And I remember sitting there going like, holy shit. We're doing sort of ironic masculine sex jokes. Yeah, sex jokes and masculinity. And I don't know that this is the time for this. You know what I mean? And I started kind of freaking out about it and going like, fuck, I wish this was coming out three months ago. Like in the writers room, all of the writers dressed up like Trump for Halloween because it was just so ludicrous that he would ever be elected. And it was like, ha, ha ha.

[John Gabrus]

This, that you gotta do it twice.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know, so it's very interesting. And now I look back and culture has changed or whatever, but it's just kind of a funny special and I don't care anymore. But, like, that particular month, I was just like, psyched out about it.

[John Gabrus]

An example I always point to, to friends is there's a long ass Reddit thread that says, is Gabri. This is how old it is. No one says alt right? Anyway. But it's like, it was. And it was. Everyone was using evidence of stuff Gino Lombardo has said on the podcast. No one mentioning that Gino Lombardo's character canonically is also pansexual. Like anti, like almost everything. But like. And I'm. And he's from. And I'm like, he's a guy from Long Island. I'm making fun of how dudes from Long island act. And it's like, that's being lost on some people. And that hurts me because I'm like, I don't even want to be remotely associated with that. And I thought I was as trans. Transparent as possible.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's interesting because you also don't want to be, like you say ham fisted about the fact that you're making fun of it, because sometimes people will come on and try to make fun of something by doing it and just doing it the way that it actually is. You know, I feel like Sometimes SNL cold opens are like that, where it's just like the political cold open is like, literally these comedians pretending to be politicians saying the things that they actually said.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. It's like Pete Hegseth doing, like, a light Mad Libs, where you're like, here's a slightly.

[Adam Pally]

I feel like oftentimes in these sketches you're referring to it's just a reenactment.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, that's how it feels. And sometimes I do think comedy can kind of turn the corner on people of going like, oh, that person is stupid. I think Will Ferrell's George W. Bush sort of hammered in with his strategery and stuff like that. Like, oh, people didn't really know he was that dumb.

[John Gabrus]

And now people kind of stereotype.

[Scott Aukerman]

Now people can kind of see he's a buffoon or Dana Carvey's George H.W. bush or whatever. Whereas I feel a lot of the political humor right now that SNL is doing is just purely, as you say, reenactment, where it's just like, hey, we all agree that this, like, there's no point of view on Trump that we don't know about.

[Adam Pally]

Right?

[Scott Aukerman]

He's stupid. He's an idiot.

[John Gabrus]

He doesn't know anything.

[Scott Aukerman]

He's mean.

[John Gabrus]

Well, that's the other thing, too, is like, you mentioned Theo Vaughn earlier, and it's like he ostensibly could have whatever guest he wants on the podcast. He does have Bernie and he does have Trump.

[Scott Aukerman]

He also seems like a dumb shit who doesn't care. I totally feel that everyone looks to comedians and goes like, they're truth tellers. They have to save us. And I think the Riyadh Comedy Festival and Theo Vaughn having these people on and stuff like that has just shown us. And even Jon Stewart coming back to the Daily show and his first episode being so middle of the road, both sidesy, you're like, no, we were looking to you to tell the truth about what's happening. I don't think comedians are. I think. I think this time has really shown us that comedians only care about getting laughs and earning money. Yeah. Like if some.

[John Gabrus]

And some people only choose one of those.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

But there's no. And I just to defend comedians on that. There's nobility in that. Right. I think it's like there's.

[John Gabrus]

There is.

[Adam Pally]

It's like my job is not if.

[Scott Aukerman]

You do that, not if you pretend to be a truth.

[Adam Pally]

That's where the issue is.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And that's why we were talking about it yesterday. Like, not one. One comedian came out and about Riyadh and said, I make my living doing comedy. It's really hard to earn a living. And they pay me a lot of money, and I really, really.

[Scott Aukerman]

I need money.

[Adam Pally]

I needed the money.

[Scott Aukerman]

Or some of them don't I want money.

[Adam Pally]

Or. Or some of them going, I want to be. I want to take this money so they don't have to take another job.

[John Gabrus]

And that's just me doing, like, no one.

[Scott Aukerman]

Or, I don't really care. Like, all I really care about is getting up in front of people and making them.

[Adam Pally]

Making them laugh.

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't want money. I don't care about politics. I don't care about this. The regime.

[Adam Pally]

No one said it right. Everyone was like, because I'm bringing rock and roll and blue jeans. Like, fuck you.

[John Gabrus]

Well, it's because no one was doing it for the right reason. You know what I mean?

[Scott Aukerman]

Like, no 100% of them were all doing it just because it was a huge paycheck and they thought they could get away with it. And that's.

[Adam Pally]

And it's like, had no one just said, look, I need money. I need money. It's like, everyone can understand that. That thing.

[John Gabrus]

And I wish that wasn't a good enough excuse.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Because I'm so tired of the get your bag culture. Because it's destroyed. Entertain. Entertainment, where it's like, people are like, well, fucking Van Wilder is printing money on gin. I'm like, but he actually used to.

[Scott Aukerman]

Have standards, and they used to. There used to be a term called a sellout. You would call people. I.

[John Gabrus]

There's a distinct memory, and I'm quote. It might be. I misheard, but your friend. I heard Zach Galifianakis back in the day was offered that PC versus Apple.

[Scott Aukerman]

All right?

[John Gabrus]

He was offered one of those crazy spokesperson things. And he was like, no, that. I don't do that kind of stuff. I do comedy. And then. But everything since then has become. Not only that, people are so excited when they're like, dude, Shane Gillis is doing Bud Light commercials. And you're also.

[Adam Pally]

There's a certain. Like, you get a Bud Light commercial, it's like, you're Middle America. Well, it's also.

[John Gabrus]

It's like the. Get your bag. It's because, like, we. It changed at some point where it was like, get your fucking.

[Scott Aukerman]

But I mean, I do think that we're all a little more attuned to. Or hopefully, as you know, I think as we get older, we're a little more attuned to these kind of ethical Questions or whatever. But also, is it good for comedy? Is it even good for this episode of your show?

[John Gabrus]

No.

[Scott Aukerman]

These conversations, I don't know.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I'm just happy to have it. I'm happy that there are other people who. It feels good when you reach out, other comedians who are struggling with the idea of selling out and the idea of, like. Because you can't just make a living being a standup comic anymore. Like, you have to get to touring. You have to get to promoting yourself on social media.

[Scott Aukerman]

And you'd be surprised how many of these conversations that I have with people I know where they kind of go, like, hey, this is an ethical thing that I'm doing, dealing with. What do you think? You know, dude, we're texting about it.

[John Gabrus]

I'm texting peers all the time. Just like, is this, like, should I not do this or should I do this?

[Scott Aukerman]

You wonder about the react comedy festival. I also blame the agents involved. Like, as much blame as is going to the actual performers. Who are these agents who convince them to do this? You know what I mean?

[John Gabrus]

People who saw, like, 10% of $3 million.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know what I mean? But shouldn't they have counseled their clients a little better of what the implications for this are? Undoubtedly, they all said, like, yeah, it's the regime that killed these people, but no one's gonna care.

[John Gabrus]

Well, the big thing I come to is in these conversations with friends, I'm like, if you're hoping no one notices, you're in the wrong.

[Adam Pally]

Right?

[John Gabrus]

You know what I mean? Cause that'll happen sometimes where you're like, well, who cares? We'll just do it. No one's actually gonna give a fuck. And then all of a sudden you're like, wait a minute, we're making the wrong choice here. Then we're making a choice. We're hoping not to, quote, unquote, get caught. It's like, no one's even gonna pay attention to. Who's that? It kind so late.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And.

[Scott Aukerman]

But.

[John Gabrus]

And also, I think also these videos come out. People are putting their hands in, like, sand and shit. And you're like, what are you co signing by?

[Scott Aukerman]

I think Adam and I were talking yesterday, and I'm sorry you weren't there, but we had a conversation without you. I'm so sorry.

[John Gabrus]

Good luck.

[Scott Aukerman]

But. But the fact that there's a music version of that festival that's been going on for three years or so, wrestling and golf and all that, but now, who was post? Malone and Halsey, I think, were booked on It. It was just announced yesterday, and because of the attention that the comedy one got, now they're getting attention of like, should you be doing this? Whereas a lot of them did it three years ago and no one gave a shit. Yeah, but I think there's a certain thing with comedy that you excuse musicians where you're just like, they're just going to get a check. But if you're a comedian, comedy's so hard because you are the person of authority, going, like, no, no, no, no, you're all wrong. I see the world in a different way than you all do.

[John Gabrus]

At least this hour that I'm on stage, my POV is the prevailing POV.

[Scott Aukerman]

And superior to the world, you know what I mean? Where it's like, I think of things a little different, and I'm gonna tell you how, and I'm gonna have you come around to my point of view, right? And you're gonna be laughing, going, that makes sense. That makes sense. That's a certain type of comedy, right? And a certain type of comedy that a lot of these guys practice. So to have them be the people going, like, no, no, no. I see things different, differently. And it's like, oh, you see things differently in a way of, like, you're just morally ambiguous or amoral. Oh, okay, I understand now.

[Adam Pally]

Well, yeah, I mean, I think that that's the unfortunate, Unfortunate place where we are and goes back to that bag culture where it's like, yeah, I am immoral. I'm amoral for everything around me except my own money and my own life. And honestly, I would have had a lot easier attached time hearing that than people being like, well, you know, we're bringing blue jeans and rock and roll over to a culture.

[John Gabrus]

They got Starbucks over there.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, Like. Like, I give a.

[Scott Aukerman]

That I don't like Starbucks over here.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, that.

[Adam Pally]

That point was crazy.

[John Gabrus]

I think Bird tried to use, like, corporations as a defense, and I'm like, no, that's. We hate that about a society in general.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

But also, I want to say again, everyone's line is different, and I have different, different ethical lines than other people do. And some people. People have not appreciated some things that I've done. Right, of course. And. And I believe for myself that I am acting in a way that I think is moral and ethical, but I.

[John Gabrus]

Think, yeah, you have to live with yourself at the end of the day.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

My. My big thing is, is I refuse to use chat, GBT or AI or any of that. I just.

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't even know how So I, I don't even want to learn how because then I feel like I'd be too much.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I used to write my script for me. I know I use it sometimes as like a co. Quicker Google search.

[John Gabrus]

I, I have just said to myself, I'm like. And it's not like I'm. I, I'm immoral in so many other ways, but in this stance, I'm just like, I'm just not going to even part. This is my small.

[Scott Aukerman]

Everyone's a hypocrite in certain ways. But. But you can't excuse your own behavior by saying, like, well, you're all hypocrites too.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I hate that when they're like, America is bad too. It's like, yeah, well, let's fix that.

[Scott Aukerman]

Or like, look at these phones you're using that were assembled in sweatshops. Yeah, yeah. Everyone is a hypocrite in certain ways, but you can't excuse, like a giant ethical lapse by saying, like, you have tiny ones, you roll through stop signs.

[John Gabrus]

That's why I was able to bring home a journalist in a fucking suitcase.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, but I only use AI to do videos of Trump playing guitar with Jimi Hendrix. That's all.

[Adam Pally]

I love that crazy make.

[Scott Aukerman]

With Keith Moon playing drums behind Trump.

[John Gabrus]

Different British bands, some. Some whack job. Right. Winger posted like an AI video of Charlie Kirk playing guitar, and it was with Freddie Mercury and Brian May. Freddie Mercury a gay immigrant and Brian May alive. Yeah, but they're like in heaven playing. Brian May is not even dead. And Charlie Kirk would play with the band Queen first.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, I mean, I'd like to think that heaven is sort of like that, where everyone can do one audition at least. You know what I mean? How much of this has to do with health, by the way, that we've been talking about?

[Adam Pally]

The amount that we talked about.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, we talked about health quite a bit in the beginning. And that's the part.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's what it is.

[John Gabrus]

We'll leave off that way.

[Adam Pally]

Scotty, do you have anything you want to plug besides cbb?

[Scott Aukerman]

Comedy Bang Bang World is our. That's the best. You know, that's where I don't have to read ads. It's just people supporting not only me, but the artists that have shows on there. John, you have a monthly show. You have a monthly show on there and you just did a new episode of your show, which was very funny. And it's a way where people can give right to the people making the stuff, which is great. So CBB World is probably what I want to.

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Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

I have nothing else going on.

[John Gabrus]

Right. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Awesome.

[Adam Pally]

Thank you, Scotty.

[Scott Aukerman]

Hey, thanks for having me on.

[John Gabrus]

I appreciate you coming on, man.

[Scott Aukerman]

I love you guys and it's a pleasure to hang out with you.

[John Gabrus]

The first two podcasts I ever listened to were, well, this American Life, WTF and Comedy Bang Bang. And now we've had Scott.

[Adam Pally]

First podcast I was ever on. Yeah, it was kind of.

[Scott Aukerman]

Are you gonna have Ira Glass on?

[John Gabrus]

We should have Ira Glass on in New York.

[Adam Pally]

That's. Yeah, I'm sure he's dying to talk about. Talk to us about health.

[John Gabrus]

There I was.

[Scott Aukerman]

This is my prescription.

[John Gabrus]

Riding a mic.

[Adam Pally]

I was truly shocked at my cholesterol level.

[John Gabrus]

Scott, A. Thank you, brother.

[Scott Aukerman]

Thanks. Thanks for having me on.

[John Gabrus]

Pass the ox chord for Scotty.

[Scott Aukerman]

Ox.

[Adam Pally]

What a great episode, dude.

[John Gabrus]

We should start saying that. That was a fucking good episode at the end.

[Adam Pally]

I think I do do that.

[Scott Aukerman]

Fun.

[John Gabrus]

I don't care what the listeners thought.

[Adam Pally]

No, this is all for us.

[John Gabrus]

This was. This was a really fun one. We got into some stuff I'm really talking about in thinking about a lot with like money and our responsibility as comics in this world.

[Adam Pally]

I also really appreciated the conversation about comedy and can you be funny and also be.

[John Gabrus]

Buff or hot?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Because that is a question that is like worth asking. Like, do you need to be unobtain, like a non object of sexual desire to be funny?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. The second you get too hot, can you be funny or people look at you in a different way?

[Adam Pally]

Exactly. Yeah. Which is a cross I have to bear that you've been carrying your entire life.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I know. It's just something I've been dealing with. Just like being they're like, this fucking handsome guy is going to be funny.

[Adam Pally]

And like, believe it or not, it's. If anything what this podcast has done is shown that hot people can be funny.

[John Gabrus]

We should. We should wrap this up because thanks to being pretty close to the spokesperson, Jimmy John sent over a little sandwich.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Thank you. Jimmy John's for sandwiches.

[John Gabrus]

Stay alive.

[Adam Pally]

Fuck. You know what? Fuck you. You brought Jimmy Johns up. You thought I was.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I thought got you distracted. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally. A Smart List Media production in association.

[Scott Aukerman]

With Sirius XM Produced by Devin Tory.

[Adam Pally]

Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music, Associate producer.

[John Gabrus]

And video producer is Maddie McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano.

[Adam Pally]

Assistant engineer Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM executive producers are John Gabriel.

[John Gabrus]

Ooh, me, Adam Pally. Ooh, you. Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson, and Bernie Kaminsky. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Adam Pally]

Just so everyone knows we do not have a discord.

[John Gabrus]

Don't reach out to us.

[Adam Pally]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, I feel like if John Mayer is allowed to do stand up comedy, like, you should be able to sit in with the dead or something. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

100%. I'm glad he stopped.

[Scott Aukerman]

I think the world is. Yeah, his music agent is.

[John Gabrus]

He wasn't that bad at stand up, but he is so good at guitar. It's just like one of those things where it's like, just do the thing you're awesome at.

[Scott Aukerman]

Also just be a handsome guy.

[John Gabrus]

All right, Ryan Gosling. You guys don't have to do comedy.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, God.

[John Gabrus]

When I saw that, that Will Ferrell.

[Adam Pally]

Ryan Gosling movie announced yesterday, I was like, damn it. Like, just let him be hot. He's so hot and ripped. Like, just let him do that.

[John Gabrus]

Smart less medium.

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