Grow Up & Pro Up (w/ Carl Tart)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

Episode: Grow Up & Pro Up (w/ Carl Tart)
Date: September 4, 2025 | Host: SmartLess Media

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of Staying Alive revolves around comedian and SNL writer Carl Tart’s current stint in New York, his evolving fitness journey, and the trio’s “grossly forthcoming” discussions about the challenges of balancing creative work, health, nightlife, and adulthood. The conversation shuffles candidly between big city routines, fitness motivation, medical horror stories, and the realities of growing older—in both body and mind.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Monday Morning Blues” of Showbiz

• [00:09-02:28]
  • Adam and Jon share that Mondays in the entertainment business are anxiety-inducing and unproductive, likening the experience to “Groundhog Day.”
  • Adam: “Monday is the second act of Groundhog Day. It’s like where you realize that you’re trapped in this... state, no matter what.” [01:44]
  • The conversation sets a laid-back, comedic tone threaded throughout the episode.

2. Adjusting to New York Life

• [02:31-09:41]
  • Carl discusses adjusting from LA’s car-centric comfort to the hustle of NYC’s public transit.
  • The trio joke about the logistics of commuting and the art of maximizing comfort and free time in New York.
  • Carl is honest about missing the personal space and flexibility of LA, but is slowly “carving out” his routine in the city:
    • “I have one deli in my neighborhood I like. I have one blank. I like... I carved a little life for myself here.” [08:14-08:22]

3. New York’s Social Scene & Late Nights

• [13:26-15:55]
  • Adam reminisces about late-night eating in NYC and the cult of the 24/7 bodega sandwich.
  • Carl describes the contrast between LA and NYC nightlife, particularly celebrating the fact that you don’t need to drive home, so: “I can go out so much and I don’t have to worry about drinking or driving.” [24:18]

4. Fitness Struggles & Finding a Trainer

• [27:46-34:47]
  • Carl candidly addresses the difficulty of keeping a workout schedule in New York, especially with the demands of SNL:
    • “New York has been really tough on the workout schedule. Work has been really tough on the workout schedule. Other people get up and do it. I just don’t be feeling like it out here.” [28:05]
  • He describes the process of “breaking up” with his old trainer (who used sessions as therapy for himself), which led to finding a trainer more focused on physical improvement.
  • Carl’s fitness focus is not just aesthetics but maintaining strength, fighting family history of health issues, and “living a balanced life.”

5. "Grow Up & Pro Up": The Eugene Cordero Moment

• [34:39-36:03]
  • Carl shares a morality-slash-motivation slap from fellow comedian Eugene Cordero:
    • Eugene: “Are you an adult?”
    • Carl: “Yeah.”
    • Eugene: “Well, then grow up.” [34:48-34:57]
  • The group riff on the triggering but necessary impact of being told to “grow up” regarding their personal health habits.

6. Medicine, Doctors & Racial Bias

• [37:26-43:56]
  • Carl recounts a negative experience with a dismissive, non-Black doctor quick to prescribe medication based on his size and blood pressure without context.
  • He expresses the importance of physician-patient fit, especially for Black men who often report feeling subject to presumptions and less personalized care:
    • “This dude made me, like, I want to find a Black doctor. Because I think it was the way that this dude treated me when I walked in was crazy. Immediately prescribing medication...for stuff he hadn’t even checked on me.” [38:43]
  • The hosts discuss the emotional impact of these encounters and the necessity, but difficulty, of seeking regular medical care as men.

7. Weight Loss Drugs & Perceptions

• [49:43-54:32]
  • Adam and Jon discuss personal and societal biases about Ozempic, Mounjaro, and the stigma of using weight loss drugs, both for medical reasons and appearance.
  • Adam describes the urgency brought on by family history of heart disease:
    • “It’s saving people’s lives... I just don’t want to go out like that, you know, I got too much going on.” [50:46-51:10]
  • The crew is open about a spectrum of approaches; while some favor medication, others, like Carl’s father, preach moderation and incremental lifestyle improvements.

8. Eating Habits, Intermittent Fasting, and Food Guilt

• [55:30-58:38]
  • They dissect the pattern of skipping meals and consequently binging late at night—a familiar struggle for comedians and city dwellers working odd hours.
  • “The psychological issue I have is that I go, well, I haven’t eaten all day, so I’m allowed to have something bad.” – John [56:35-56:41]
  • The hosts lament the challenge of finding healthy food after shows and question whether substituting “healthier” versions of meals really makes a difference amid the drinking and late-night eating.

9. Major Takeaways on Health and Balance

• Making “better choices” in food and exercise is a recurring theme—Carl asserts moderation rather than deprivation should be the goal:
  • Carl’s dad: “Son, you gotta watch yourself. Everything you do, do a little bit less. That’s all you got to do. You can still eat your chicken wing.” [49:10]
• Support & Friendship: The episode ends with personal plans and encouragement—Jon and Carl pledge to spot each other on the bench next summer in LA, reflecting the camaraderie and mutual accountability at the heart of the show.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On New York discomfort:
  • “What I value about comfort...it just is just not here.” – Carl [07:28]
• On breaking trainer relationships:
  • “Breaking up with your trainer is like a hard breakup. Oh, it’s like breaking up with a barber or a therapist.” – Carl/Adam [31:09-31:11]
• On the struggle to ‘pro up’:
  • “Are you an adult? ...Well, then grow up.” – Eugene Cordero (via Carl) [34:48–34:57]
  • “Grow up is a really... someone tells you to grow up and you feel left behind.” – Adam [35:12]
• On medicine & race:
  • “I want to find a Black doctor because the way this dude treated me when I walked in was crazy.” – Carl [38:43]
• On weight loss drugs:
  • “Now that everyone thinks Ozempic is just for your looks, people are hesitant to take it because they don’t want to come across as shallow. But it’s saving people’s lives.” – Jon [50:31-50:40]
• On adulting and accountability:
  • “You can’t say, stop saying you don’t have time to work out and start saying, I prioritize blank over working out.” – Jon [35:38]
• On moderation:
  • “Everything you do, do a little bit less. That’s all you got to do. You can still eat your chicken wing.” – Carl’s dad [49:10]

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• 00:09 – 02:28: Monday showbiz malaise & comic banter
• 03:29 – 09:41: Carl’s NYC adaptation, transit, and comfort
• 13:26 – 15:55: Food & nightlife as “professional partiers”
• 27:46 – 29:18: Fitness schedule challenges & guilt
• 34:48 – 36:03: “Grow up” challenge from Eugene Cordero
• 37:26 – 43:56: Doctor stories, racial bias in medicine
• 49:43 – 54:32: Weight loss drugs, social stigma, and lived realities
• 55:30 – 58:38: Intermittent fasting, late-night eating, and food psychology
• 58:47 – 59:56: Carl’s podcast plugs & wrap-up

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Tone & Style

The episode is frank, irreverent, warm, and full of “grossly forthcoming” humor and mutual ribbing. The trio blends honest admissions of frustration and failure with sincere encouragement, centering lived experience over any claim to expertise. The vibe is that of close friends commiserating and striving together on the bumpy road to “growing up and pro-ing up.”

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Carl Tart's Podcasts & Plugs [58:47–59:56]

• Hollywood Handbook (Patreon: patreon.com/hollywoodhandbook)
• Flagrant Ones (basketball)
• The Filthy Ones (baseball)
• Foosballs (football)
• XOXO Gossip Kings (Gossip Girl recaps)
• XOXO Bada Bings (coming soon, Sopranos recaps)
• Saturday Night Live (SNL, NBC)

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Final Takeaways

• Health, comfort, and self-improvement are complicated by careers, city life, and personal history.
• There’s value in admitting struggles, seeking camaraderie, and making incremental changes.
• The “grown-up” thing isn’t flashy; it’s about honest self-reflection and accepting what you need—whether that’s a Black doctor, a less grifty trainer, a real sandwich, or just a little less of everything.

A rewarding listen for anyone grappling with adulthood, wellness, or just the endless loop of Mondays.

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Transcript

[Adam Pally]

Smart.

[Carl Tart]

Less media.

[Adam Pally]

Mondays are the worst in show business because you always get a call Friday evening that's like, something's gonna happen. Like, here's a little. Like, here's your manager saying, like, don't fire me. And then that doesn't materialize for six months. And so the Monday is like the worst part of every. It's like waking up in the same nightmare every day. Yeah, I got the Monday morning blues.

[John Gabrus]

I got big time Monday morning blues we hung out last night and now I'm bummed. I mean, I'm in this. I'm in this weird headspace. I'm assuming you are too. Of like, happy to be working.

[Adam Pally]

Love it.

[John Gabrus]

Why is it on Monday morning?

[Adam Pally]

Well, like, Monday, Mondays. I was saying before Mondays in the sh. In the. In entertainment are really kind of a dead lost day for the talent. Like, unless you're on set shooting on a Monday.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Nothing's happening.

[John Gabrus]

You're not hearing good news for the first till.

[Adam Pally]

No, because if there is good news, there's nothing to be. No one's talked yet. There's nothing. Right. You know, like, nothing.

[John Gabrus]

You have to wait until six other conversations, until six other people leave word for one, until they catch up. Then they can get to you by Friday, 4:30pm you get one piece of news and you're like, okay. And that's not gonna. No movement's gonna happen over the weekend on that.

[Adam Pally]

So you'll start this cycle again.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Now I'm just sitting here going, I have two days of the weekend off. Nice time, see the family, see some friends. But then you come back and you're like, I'd like to start working.

[Adam Pally]

Monday is the second act of Groundhog Day. It's like, where you realize that you're trapped in this. In this. In this state, no matter what. And it's going to happen every Monday.

[John Gabrus]

It's really funny how obviously the week is the same, like, every week. And then always you're like, yeah, Friday. Holy. It's Friday. This is great. And then every time Monday comes around, you're like, it's already Monday.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Like, the attitude. Like, you know, Monday's around the corner. And then when he shows up, you're like, what the fuck are you doing?

[Adam Pally]

Best Mondays are when there's something big on a Sunday night and you have off on a Monday.

[Carl Tart]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

And you can like. And you're like, Monday, soft landing Monday. Yeah. Monday blows by and you didn't even know it. Yeah. You know, you're like, Tuesday, things are happening.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

We're moving along. It's almost Friday. Speaking of almost Friday. Yeah. So we got. Speaking of Friday, I say Saturday makes such a better. We've got the human embodiment of Friday on our podcast, like Carl Tart, a mutual friend of ours. And we're in. You live in New York. He currently resides here because he's riding on.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, he's still getting used to it. I think in my last conversation with him, he was. He was on the fence about whether or not this was places for him.

[John Gabrus]

I mean, he's been in L. A, like most of his life, so.

[Adam Pally]

I get that.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I mean, I get. I'm. I'm New York in my 20s, Louisiana, in my 30s, and I'm not coming back. I'm here enjoying myself, but I can't ever live here again. I don't think.

[Adam Pally]

Arkham asylum. In your 40s?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, my 40s are for Costa Rica. Where's the extradition law?

[Carl Tart]

Hey, dude.

[John Gabrus]

Extradition.

[Carl Tart]

Extradition.

[Adam Pally]

Is there going to be a tariff on cocaine?

[John Gabrus]

Better not be. I got to start making it myself. This is my cocaine plant. You have it like in your closet. Like, it's weed.

[Adam Pally]

Have a self grow. It's just like a potato.

[John Gabrus]

Doctor says you're allowed to grow up to two coke plants by yourself.

[Adam Pally]

It is funny that we've. We've interviewed a bunch of doctors that are like, you can take mushrooms and ketamine. Like, not one has been like a coke doctor. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I mean, and they were like in the early 1900s, like, Coke was. They were like blaster rail, this, that. Curious.

[Adam Pally]

Tell me about your.

[John Gabrus]

Tell me about your mom's being.

[Adam Pally]

You know what? This all is everything. Everything is all we come from. We want to where we came from. Right. Am I right about this or am I like, maybe I'm wrong, but I think, I think.

[John Gabrus]

Hey, Freud, you've brought that up about eight times. And we're just asking you what you want for dinner.

[Adam Pally]

I don't want anything. I can't eat right now.

[John Gabrus]

You guys are familiar with the term milf.

[Adam Pally]

Ladies and gentlemen?

[John Gabrus]

Car type, ct?

[Adam Pally]

Are you liking New York any better?

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure. I. It definitely has made me know, like, I don't want to live here full term.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Like, I don't want to move here. I don't want to be like, I'm a New Yorker now.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

But I like it enough. Like, I'm moving around the job. The job is a lot.

[Adam Pally]

So it's also in the worst area. Like you. You every day have to go to like this, the legit fucking butthole.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You're like, you're like a businessman. You got to go to like the business center and then also make comedy.

[Carl Tart]

I mean, I don't really like, this is the first time I was like, this is the first time that I've like really done something. Not the first. I've had a couple of generals where I have to like travel on a train and get there and it's just like stressful.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

But like now I'm like, I don't have to be at work today until like 4. And so after I leave here, I'm like, well, do I get on the train and go back home?

[John Gabrus]

This is, this is the New York.

[Adam Pally]

This is a New Yorker debate.

[John Gabrus]

I lived with my, in my 20s. I had my fucking backpack with like a change of clothes and my laptop on me at all times. Because it would be like I get out of this audition at 3. My show's at 7:30.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Am I going home or am I going to get a coffee and pull up my. I'm going to go see who's eating food somewhere. Like it was so fucking crazy. You could never. Because to go all the way back to Red Hook in between would just be like, that's like just. I'm gonna ride the train for 90 minutes total just to like get an hour at home.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. And that's what I'm like trying to figure out.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And that's what I miss about LA is like in my car unless I have to go to like the Fox lot on the west side.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. It is much more comfortable to like sit in your car and kill time or like go for a ride. Open the window. Yeah. It's much more like calm. You're isolated, you're alone. You're not trudging through a thousand people everywhere like that. I understand that.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Like I'll be one of the 60 people with my laptop open in this coffee shop on, on 8th Avenue. And like it's loud and it's crazy in here, but this is better than commuting all the way home.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

But the train stop is not like the train that I would get on is not far from here is right outside the, on the corner.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

So I'm, I could just jump back on the train. I'll be back. It only takes like 20 minutes to get there.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So maybe it might be worth it.

[John Gabrus]

But like, but that's where you get into that. You got to start doing that crazy ass math where you're there. And then like, it takes 10 minutes for the train to. And you're like, well, now I only got 40 minutes at home. You're like, now, now I might as.

[Carl Tart]

Well just go get how many games of MLB the show can I get in?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And then you're like, where am I going to? You're like, am I going to shit at home when I get home? Or. Or is it going to be like a thing where like I'll. When I get back to work at an off time? It's like that, that, that anxiety would stress me out in, in a midday thing.

[Carl Tart]

And I know people will listen to this and go, get over it.

[Adam Pally]

Right?

[Carl Tart]

But it's like, nah, man.

[Adam Pally]

No, no, no.

[Carl Tart]

I don't wanna get over it. This shit is weak.

[Adam Pally]

Those little things are what make life. Like, if I got over, my life would be perfect.

[John Gabrus]

It's also like New Yorkers are saying that, but everyone else who's saying that come here. And then you go like, okay, yeah. It actually is kind of crazy.

[Adam Pally]

It's crazy.

[John Gabrus]

It's chaotic.

[Carl Tart]

And so that's my main thing is just like, I personally don't. I'm not gonna say values. Cause that puts like way too much more on it. As if it's like my moral compass won't allow me to become. No, it's more just like what I value about comfort.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

It just is just not here.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And y' all grew up in it. I didn't grow up in it. So like, it's different for y'. All. This is home. I get it. But for me, coming from Mississippi, where it's like a wide open, a little different than here, and then going to la, where it's even more of that because you kind of. When you in your neighborhood, it's kind of like you in your suburb and you do your thing in that neighborhood, like everything. Both of those things don't match up to what is going on here.

[Adam Pally]

Right, Right.

[Carl Tart]

And. But I'm. But I'm finding my comfort. I'm finding my somewhat piece here without all the horns blaring.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. You can kind of almost make your own life for you. You know what I mean? Like where you could be like, well, now I finally have one deli in my neighborhood. I like. I have one blank. I like.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And then you, you check, you stack all those up and all of a sudden you're like, oh, I found. I carved a little life for myself here. I drink coffee at this spot. I eat my sushi from here or Whatever.

[Carl Tart]

That's why I say when I. When I go to work every day, and I. Like, I got my routine now. I know what time I leave. I know what train stop I walk to. I get on a train, like, a real. Like, I know where I'm going. Run sideways down the stairs, you know? But then even coming here today, I took the train here that I take to work every day, and I was still, like, getting off one stop early.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Literally, one stop early.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Well, that's. This is when, you know you've been in New York for a while is when you start going, like, all right, I gotta take the F to work, but I gotta be at the back of it, because that's the easier exit. When I. That's when you know you're a pro and you've been doing the same commute a lot where you're like, stay in the back. Go up these stairs. The NW stairs are on the corner. I need to be.

[Adam Pally]

I'm constantly getting on the wrong. Like, northwest, southwest end, up on the wrong. I don't know where I am. Like, is this even 7th Avenue? Like, what the 42nd street station is to me, the same thing as the parking lot in Century City. Yeah. It is a labyrinth. It's. It's enormous. But you're. You don't know where you are, like.

[John Gabrus]

Until you just do.

[Adam Pally]

Until you. Until all.

[John Gabrus]

Until it's just like, oh, that's my ex opens.

[Adam Pally]

And you're like, oh, right. I was. I'm heading out to Santa Monica Boulevard, like, the Century City parking lot.

[Carl Tart]

You. I lose my car, and I'm. I don't lose my car.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'm very good about it, and I. There have been times. Times where I've been, like, hitting the alarm button, like, where is it?

[Carl Tart]

Where it.

[John Gabrus]

You guys reminded me that in my photo. In my phone app. The photos app is so many pictures of my car in a parking spot.

[Carl Tart]

And the pillar that has absolutely.

[Adam Pally]

Between, like, you. You and your mom.

[John Gabrus]

And then it's just like, 25 cars in a row. One weird dick pic for my doctor.

[Adam Pally]

Show me what's on there. Let me see how big it.

[Carl Tart]

The thing is.

[Adam Pally]

Not the.

[John Gabrus]

No, it's pretty big. Hold on, let me get a better angle. No, I just need a better angle.

[Adam Pally]

To see the absence.

[John Gabrus]

You didn't have to be hard. Well, I said you soft.

[Carl Tart]

Why. Why are you only slightly pulling your underwear?

[Adam Pally]

I asked you to remove your pants.

[Carl Tart]

You got one arm behind your head resting. You set the tripod up.

[John Gabrus]

I have A. I see the ring. Light reflection in your ring.

[Adam Pally]

That's actually for the whole room.

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[John Gabrus]

Are you getting steps in?

[Carl Tart]

This is.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Probably the most you've ever walked.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Like, what's your work?

[Carl Tart]

Well, that's the. That's the thing 2 is. I know everybody says, like, you get more. I definitely get more steps than I do in la.

[Adam Pally]

Right, right.

[Carl Tart]

But I don't know if I'm getting the amount I should be.

[John Gabrus]

You do have a job.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. And now the. Now that the weather is better, I think I might start getting off on this stop or two earlier. And just walking down.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

I mean.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, because the rock. The Rockefeller stop is also hell. I mean, it's also.

[Carl Tart]

I'm so used to it now.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

I sit. I always sit at the. At the front.

[Adam Pally]

You got your thing.

[Carl Tart]

When I walk down to get on my stop in. In Brooklyn, and the train always stops, like, right there. So I just stand right there, get on the front, and then jump off. And the staircase is right there up and into the building. One of the homies showed me, like, how to get in because I was walking up to the street and walking out, and.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah, you can just go right in.

[Carl Tart]

You can go right in.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And so that's.

[John Gabrus]

These are the things that are. Seem so inconsequential, but when you're doing the commute every day, it feels like you feel like a here. And then when you get to the point, like, you got your bagel guy who starts to know you on en route. All of a sudden, he's like, cream cheese and lock spread on whole wheat, everything. You're like, toss it to me, brother.

[Adam Pally]

I always feel this moment with those, like, beauty and.

[John Gabrus]

Sorry. It feels like Beauty and the Beast. Like, when she's walking and everyone's opening windows and sitting. You start to feel like that in the city.

[Adam Pally]

It seems like the beginning of a musical where, like, the town is opening.

[John Gabrus]

Morning, Mr. Todd.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Oh, someone's five minutes early today.

[Carl Tart]

There's two people. It's two people that, like, we haven't gotten on speaking bait, but there's an MTA worker that's always in the train station. And now we've gone to. Which is not a New York thing.

[John Gabrus]

No, no.

[Carl Tart]

And so now we are on a head Nod basis.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, that's pretty. You're building a relationship.

[Carl Tart]

And there's a black British guy who stands in the hallway in Rockefeller center that I walk by and now we've gotten on a eye contact. What is it? I think he's just like a concierge. Oh, no, he works there. He's like, hello, good morning. I didn't even know he was British because I usually have my headphones in it, just like a head knob. But now he's saying, how's it going? Top of the morning. Oh, you're British. Hey, Jeffrey from Fresh Prince.

[Adam Pally]

Carl, you know, I was going to ask you about New York is like, I feel like when I moved here as a kid after living here, growing up here and then coming back, I instantly, no matter how much I walked or how much I worked out, I didn't have to drive anywhere. So I could drink every night and I could eat every night. And then I was at the ucb. So like nights became days and you're just eating whatever.

[John Gabrus]

You can always get a meal at like 1:30 in the morning if need be.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. So my area is a little bit of a desert where I live at because it's like a newer, A newer development. Where are you in downtown Brooklyn.

[Adam Pally]

Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, like, but like near the center.

[Carl Tart]

Like, near, near like J Street Metro. Yeah, cool.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, like juniors. Like. Yeah, big juniors.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. I'm not far from there at all. In like the DeKalb market.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Stuff is closing earlier out here now.

[Adam Pally]

Yes, of course, no problem. But you're still in New York. Like, you still like, you know, like I remember getting out of a show at midnight or whatever and you still can be like, let's go to a bar to. Yeah, you know, and like that. You can't do that in a lot of. In a lot of cities you can't.

[Carl Tart]

Like, I mean, LA is a 2am City and you can't go. We got birds next to UCB, right? That's at 2:00am yeah. You can go to little other spots. Drugstore Cowboy, Shout out to Drugstore Cowboy, Jay's Bar, Little in. In the Silver Lake Junction area. Black Cat Stella closed a little early, but like, it, it.

[Adam Pally]

But you don't, you're not driving.

[Carl Tart]

You like not driving, which is tough on the drinking.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And you're hitting like my, my problem is there was this when I lived in the East Village, this place Sunny and Annie's, which, like is a bodega, but truly just an amazing sandwich shop. It was like no one buys anything but the sandwiches in there. And no matter what, if I, if I had one beer McManus or like 30 beers at McManus, I was stopping at Sunny and Annie's and getting like a fried chicken sandwich. Like I would do this one late almost the morning. Yeah, like breakfast.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, like a chicken colored sandwich for breakfast at 3:30.

[Adam Pally]

They had this Mona Lisa. It was like a fried. I don't. Do you ever get it with me? It was a fried chicken cutlet that they would fry like in their like fry thing right there and then it was. But they take balsamic vinegar and put it right on the chicken cutlet. And then they take arugula and like fresh buffalo mozzarella cheese and a red pepper. And it was like really simple. And they put it in that Italian bread with the like the sesame seeds on it. Yeah, it was like I got a.

[John Gabrus]

Semolina right now just hearing about it.

[Carl Tart]

Dude.

[Adam Pally]

It was. I mean, I'm full. I'm full.

[John Gabrus]

I got a full baguette over the baguette.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, I have Bradley Cooper's cheesesteaks. Yeah. What do you think? Great.

[Adam Pally]

Really good, right?

[Carl Tart]

Really good.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

What can't this guy do?

[Carl Tart]

I don't know. Right?

[Adam Pally]

Such a bummer.

[John Gabrus]

He can sing, he could direct.

[Adam Pally]

Like every time I see pictures of him in that kitchen, I'm like, you've, you know, eating one of these in your life. Like jacked. Like he maybe had half a bite of one and was like, I could sell these like off.

[John Gabrus]

The fact that he can make them is that, that's. He's not just there in money alone. You know what I mean? I'd like to see Ryan Reynolds shake up a few gin and tonics and see, see how aviation is.

[Carl Tart]

Oh, come on.

[Adam Pally]

Ryan Reynolds is far ahead. If you're talking leading men entrepreneur rankings, Ryan Reynolds is way far ahead of.

[John Gabrus]

Right. No, I, but I dislike that about him. You know, like Bradley Cooper's whipping up sandwiches. He's from Philadelphia. It feels a little more from the heart.

[Adam Pally]

I like, I don't like Ryan Reynolds either, but neither of them are like my top earn. Like, like who's your like number one leading guy earner?

[John Gabrus]

That's a good question. I'm more saying to me it's in. Bradley Cooper is from Philly and the fact that he's like slinging sandwiches and that he can make them and he's not just like, it's Cooper's, you know, like, I'm sure he, you know, he's not.

[Adam Pally]

It does feel that way to me. Maybe I'm just like, yeah, jaded on it. But it does feel like he's like, all of a sudden with a Philadelphian accent, like, going to the Eagles every week.

[John Gabrus]

Well, we're all Justin Bartha truthers. We're like, he's the real star of Hangover.

[Adam Pally]

They should have never left him on that roof. I heard there's a whole cut where he's out with the crew.

[Carl Tart]

Shot two movies. Yeah. Chose one.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Like, this is like Zack Snyder.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. No, release this. Release the Snyder cut of the Hangover. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

The thing when you talk about killing time, you're like, oh, I got three hours. I can grab a bite. And now you're having, like, a meal in between lunch and dinner. And you're like, supposed to have dinner at 8:30, and now at 4pm I'm having a bagel. Like, yeah. And you find yourself doing. And I mean, but the thing is, I'm also part of feeling young is like, I've been hitting the gym here. I've been, like, taking the stairs instead of the escalator. I'm 43, and New York is, like, revitalized me in a way, and it's because I have nostalgia for it. When I lived here, I was 20 and cool. And so now I'm feeling. Feeling that again. But I'm also on, like, day seven of maybe burning the candle at too many ends, and I'm like, I need to. I need to, like, be in my car. I need quiet. I need, like. I feel you. I feel you on.

[Carl Tart]

You know, it is. Is interesting.

[John Gabrus]

I'll never move back now. I like. I like LA too much. I'll be there in my 60s chilling with you.

[Carl Tart]

So it'll.

[Adam Pally]

You guys will have a third bedroom, right? Sometimes you got to get out.

[Carl Tart]

You got to pull up.

[John Gabrus]

We need a couple more seasons of this podcast. Then we'll be living in Sherman Oaks together.

[Carl Tart]

I definitely want sp. Finding myself. New York has. Has made me. It's gonna sound crazy because I'm not old, but, like, made me young again. It has euthanized me.

[Adam Pally]

If you.

[John Gabrus]

I don't think that's the right way to use that word.

[Adam Pally]

But yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Euthanized.

[Adam Pally]

No, that's okay because it puts me to sleep.

[John Gabrus]

We gotta get Dr. Conrad Murray in here.

[Carl Tart]

I said that in the Improv. They got a bit of a grow.

[Adam Pally]

Who are you?

[Carl Tart]

I'm the doctor that killed Michael Jackson.

[Adam Pally]

That's the number one doctor referenced on this show.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, we want to have doctors on. We're the only doctor we keep joking we're going to have on is Dr. Conrad Murray. It's a great name too.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, I. Nah, it. It has made me want to like. It has given me a. A zest for. For life again.

[John Gabrus]

Like it shook up your routine.

[Carl Tart]

It shook up the routine.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

I do go out probably way too much.

[John Gabrus]

I would say that was maybe true in LA anyway.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. But it's a different type of going out. I definitely be in the streets. I don't like to be at home.

[Adam Pally]

No, you're outside.

[Carl Tart]

I'm outside, yeah. I be in the streets. I be on the pavement.

[Adam Pally]

Are you dating out here?

[Carl Tart]

Man, it's tough. Tougher than la for different reasons. My job is preventing me. Like I can't feel like your job.

[John Gabrus]

You want to go to brunch on Monday?

[Carl Tart]

I was talking to a girl on Hinge and she was like, why do you only ask me out on weekday? It. Because I don't have my job in the. In the Hinge.

[Adam Pally]

Cuz I want.

[Carl Tart]

I want a real.

[John Gabrus]

I want pure. I want you to like me for my looks.

[Adam Pally]

It is kind of a close.

[Carl Tart]

I gotta. I gotta say it on.

[Adam Pally]

Otherwise someone might think you're Moby.

[John Gabrus]

It's you like sitting in your office with like a pen in your mouth. Like so trying to look right.

[Adam Pally]

Is talking over. He's writing.

[John Gabrus]

Just hanging with my work friends. It's like you and Keenan, like all famous people.

[Carl Tart]

I do have a picture of Keenan and Chris Red on my hinge from when we were on the show together, but. And that kind of gives a little bit.

[Adam Pally]

And you show that to Keenan every.

[Carl Tart]

Day and I don't. And also, could you cut this out?

[John Gabrus]

No. Asked me to take a tap.

[Adam Pally]

Come look at my hint profile. I think there's a joke in here.

[Carl Tart]

But I like on Raya is def. I definitely put the job. And then, you know, of course you get the. The 24 year old girls with the baggy jeans and the thong pulled up and you're like, all right.

[Adam Pally]

I mean there is a reason that like I especially now I feel like cast and writers, you end up dating famous people or, you know, because that's who you're around now. Like you, you know, you're not around. Like when you get to the after party.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

The people that are gonna be there are gonna be like super famous or super hot. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You're dating Michael Longfellow's agent.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

It's crazy because like, you know, the famous people, like, like as a new writer I can. I have access to the. The second area, which you've all have. There is a different area.

[John Gabrus]

Sure. There's so many tiers.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. We don't get tables, so we just kind of linger around the bar. And there's other people lingering around the bar that you might get, but you.

[Adam Pally]

Know which table you're comfortable to sit at and chill.

[Carl Tart]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

You know, you're not gonna walk up to like a table that doesn't.

[John Gabrus]

Where you're like, hi, Paul Simon, I'm calling. Hey, me and Julio down by the schoolyard.

[Carl Tart]

John up in here. My grandma.

[Adam Pally]

My grandma has those glasses. Carl, by the way, my friend told.

[John Gabrus]

Me you were gay. Is that true?

[Carl Tart]

Is that true? Cuz I don't get down like that.

[John Gabrus]

I'd rather not sit here if that's true.

[Carl Tart]

This dude with you?

[Adam Pally]

Brandy, what's your.

[Carl Tart]

Miss me with that Elton.

[John Gabrus]

Miss me with that Elton. I had no idea.

[Adam Pally]

Anyone else think this old woman's trying.

[Carl Tart]

To get with that Elton John? And you know, some. Some weeks we can go sit at Lauren's table, like if we had a.

[Adam Pally]

Good showing or like, he want to see you.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, there's. There's definitely weeks where it's a little slower. Like, I'll say, like the Chappelle week. We hit the Chappelle, did his own party at the Plaza.

[John Gabrus]

Hell yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And so. But it also felt like it was like, we gotta go to the work. We can't just not go to the work party.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

Also, then you meet people who are at the work party, and you're like, oh, this is dope. Like, there's still some people here who can't. And then you gotta be like, all right, well, I'm going to Chappelle Party.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

But that night, Lauren was just, like, sitting at his table by himself. So I was like, at the Chappelle.

[John Gabrus]

Party, Prince dunked, Right? Who wants waffles?

[Carl Tart]

Pancakes? Anybody want pancakes? So that's like, you can go up to Lauren, like, hey, what's up? Talk baseball talk, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And then if you have, like a good sketch night, like last week, not this past week, but last week I had like two on and I was into things.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I saw you.

[Carl Tart]

So that's a week that I can, like, go up to the Lord and be like, hey, you know, kiss the ring a little bit.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

But for the most part, I might go to other homies tables, might sit at a newer cast member's table, because they ain't got nobody at their table.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

We gonna rock out there.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

You trying to go to the after After Michael Longfellow. That's my dude. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And he's like, yes, I need to.

[John Gabrus]

I don't want to walk in alone. Even though I'm on the show, they'll.

[Carl Tart]

That's my man. But the parties have been fun, the job's been fun. But, like. Yeah, being out here is definitely, like. It's perfect for a person like me and also terrible for a person like me because I can go out so much and I don't have to worry about drinking and driving.

[John Gabrus]

And also, your job is kind of like, fucks up your sleep anyway, so.

[Carl Tart]

It'S not like it's late.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

I have to pick days. I had. I did find myself, like, drinking every night. Especially when I was first here and didn't have any friends and was living at a hotel.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And I was just like, hard not.

[John Gabrus]

To have a few before bed.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. And then because I'm leaving the job at, let's say, 1am and it's not last call out here, technically.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And so I'm like, well, I guess I'll run around the corner. And then. Then I end up making friends with the bartender. And now I've become a regular with. With this person.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

Speaking of which, I gotta go see my man at the Cornerstone Tavern. Ever since I moved to Brooklyn, I done got brand new on him. I ain't been over there. Cause I've been. I ain't in Midtown no more.

[John Gabrus]

Why race home in between this and work when you can post up and.

[Carl Tart]

Have a couple of. Yeah. I don't think they open till like, five. But he's not. He's not there here.

[Adam Pally]

But that's in New York.

[Carl Tart]

That's.

[Adam Pally]

That's also like. I feel like that. That happened with me when I. When I moved a couple years ago. Like, you. You walk into a place that you've never been in, all of a sudden you're like, I kind of like the vibe in here.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And then you go two times in one week, and all of a sudden they're like, hey, Adam.

[Carl Tart]

You know?

[Adam Pally]

And you're like, oh, that makes me feel better. Even if it's.

[John Gabrus]

I think I'll come here.

[Adam Pally]

I think I'll come here a third time. And now it's like, anytime I'm thinking, oh, what do I want? Do I want Dominican foods? Like, I'm gonna go. Go to that spot, you know?

[Carl Tart]

And then they start hooking you up.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And then they start giving you tequila. And like, and that's, that's that that feels almost easier to do here than LA for some reason. I don't know why.

[Carl Tart]

Maybe I I will say we have become regulars at certain bars in LA where they do hook it up. Yeah. And that's how you kind of judge. Yeah. You really want to know what the vibe there are bars that we go to that we are regulars and the bars is like come back, always be here. And then you get that check. And then you're like my man.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. You're like I thought you said come back.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. Like can I get one free? J I'm a tip you.

[John Gabrus]

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[Carl Tart]

Carl.

[John Gabrus]

We ask all our guests this and we're this is a you're a special kind of guest cuz I'm very familiar with your fitness journey cuz we are constantly texting each other seeing what weight you're throwing around knowing knowing you missed the dunk. So what are you doing currently to stay alive? What are you doing for yourself these days?

[Carl Tart]

I'm not going to lie to you. New York has been been really tough on the workout schedule. Work has been really tough on the workout schedule. Other People get up and do it. So I got no excuses. I just don't be feeling like it out here, but I am very excited to go back home in the summer and get back with my trainer.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Shout out Xavier Waller. Follow him on Instagram.

[John Gabrus]

Hell yeah.

[Carl Tart]

X Drive Fitness, my man.

[Adam Pally]

What kind of training are you doing with him?

[John Gabrus]

Well, we can have him on when we do an LA episode. We should have your trainer on. You can come back on with him.

[Adam Pally]

We could talk.

[Carl Tart]

Absolutely.

[Adam Pally]

We should do a session with him too, because, like, I love doing a first session with some. With a friend and their trainer. Oh, yeah. Because it's like you. Then you're really keeping up with your boy and the. You know what I mean? There's like two sets of pressure on you.

[Carl Tart]

So what I was doing before, and I. I really just wanted to prove to myself that I could be consistent. And I was consistent for pretty much a year. Five days a week, four days with him, one day boxing. Was I seeing much results? I couldn't feel them. Other people saw them. Like, I was just getting really strong. But, like, it was. It was less about that and more just about living a balanced life because I knew I was going to be. Be. I was. I was eating a little better, and I still do eat a little better. I don't. I don't be like at McDonald's all the time and stuff like that. What frustrates me. I'm about to go off on a tangent. Let me go to this, please.

[Adam Pally]

This whole thing.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. X. My trainer, he had. We. We were lifted heavy. So it was just about like, getting those numbers up. How I knew he was the right guy. He. He grifted me in a way. He's a great guy.

[Adam Pally]

All trainers.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. But he. But I can. I can usually read the grift. My man called me. He was like, yo. Cause I had signed up at another gym, I'd left another trainer who could do. But the sessions ended up becoming like, kind of therapy sessions. For him.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Nah, I don't like that.

[Carl Tart]

Not. Not for me.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

For him.

[Adam Pally]

Well, they can tell you have, like, you have a similar personality to John and I, where you're like, you'll take someone on. Like, someone gonna sit down with you and they'll tell you, you're like, okay.

[Carl Tart]

I'm a good listener.

[Adam Pally]

I'm a good listener. Instantly you get advantage taken to you. And then they're like, all right, here's the deal. I'm in money trouble.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. For real. And so. And this guy was this Guy was a dope dude. I was going to him and then. But he was. You know, dude was an ex Marine. He was also young, but felt really old. And he had a lot of stuff going. We could. I don't want to talk about it too much on the pod because someone will probably listen.

[Adam Pally]

Someone will put the red rubber band.

[Carl Tart]

But he would just. Our sessions would become him venting out to me about stuff. Stuff. Also. Another thing that was bothersome about that was that he wouldn't listen. I just told you what you should have done.

[Adam Pally]

I'm doing the number of sets you've told me. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You're asking me for advice.

[Adam Pally]

Maybe you don't need after 11.

[Carl Tart]

Just, like, girl problems and stuff. But, like, I started going. I was going to him. And I realized our sessions. I was paying this man for an hour, and we weren't working out. And at first I was like, this is great, because I still feel like I'm going to the gym and I ain't got to be tired when I leave like that. And then I was like. Like, I shouldn't be paying for this. Like, I shouldn't be paying a monthly fee for this. For us to do, like, three workouts in an hour session.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

So I ended up. I got a job, so it was able for me to. Because that's a hard breakup. Breaking up with your trainer is like a hard breakup.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, it's like breaking up with a.

[Carl Tart]

Barber or a therapist.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

It's not ideal. I got a job and I was like, hey, man, I'm working five days a week, all day. Then we might have started shooting the show. And so I was like, I gotta dip. And he was like, all right, understand. We'll come back when you get done, you know? And then I ended up finding a new trainer. And because I walked into this gym and it's a little small gym in the Valley called G Train, a lot of people train there. It's small. But, like, I walked up in there, it was near my place, and I wanted something. I was like, well, I could walk to this and get the steps in.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And get the work out.

[John Gabrus]

Any less barriers you can have between you and your gym or you and your fitness routine is like, as you get older, you realize, like, fuck it. I don't do need. I need it to be, like.

[Adam Pally]

As in my basement. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Like, I need it to be as undifficult as possible.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And so I got there, and I walk in, and he's like, so, are you interested in personal training? I Was like, well, kind of. Right. I just got out of a personal training situation. So, like, right now I think I just want to try it on my own.

[Adam Pally]

I'm single a little.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. I'mma date around, get on the apps and stuff, find a new trainer, my new palette on. Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I'm doing a lot of one offs with trainers. It's uncomfortable, it's awkward. Everyone does stuff differently.

[Carl Tart]

And then he goes, because there's this dude, like, for your body type, he was like, you, you, you, like, you play ball, huh? And I was like, well, yeah, that's all you gotta hear.

[John Gabrus]

The second my trainer's like, are you an ex athlete?

[Carl Tart]

I'm like, yeah, well, you know what it is? Yeah. I can tell by this. I can tell by this. He's like, I'mma introduce you to this guy. And so he calls me. He's like, what's up, man? Like, I heard you came to the gym and you look, you potentially looking for training. And I was still kind of like, I've been hurt before, but like, yeah, man, but, you know, I'm how Carl.

[John Gabrus]

Got his groove back era.

[Carl Tart]

I looked at your Instagram. You. What are you, like, what'd you like, six, two? Like 260? 270? I go, yeah, yeah. How'd you guess that from my Instagram page? Yeah, because most people don't, you know. And then he was like, yeah, man. Like, what's your goals? Like, I was like, you know, I just kind of want to maintain. I would love to lose a little weight because we've talked about this a lot. Weight struggles are like, I'm older. My family, I come from a big family. It's like a natural thing. But I did experience being really thin in my high school and early college days, which is the last time I was like, really thin.

[Adam Pally]

Right?

[Carl Tart]

But now I do look back at pictures from like, UCB, like 12 years ago, and I'm like, damn. I was complaining about my body back then.

[Adam Pally]

Look at me, bro.

[John Gabrus]

A guy said. A guy sent me a picture of us in high school. And he goes, dude, we used to call you fat back then. And I'm like, lean.

[Adam Pally]

What a terrible. Yeah, great act.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, that was. That's that, man. That's dudes. But like, I, he, he just. He's like, what I want to try to do for you is, like, turn you into, like, you know, we get you, like, Aaron Donald. He was like, of course we can't do that. I was like, say no more.

[Adam Pally]

Whereas here's my problem.

[Carl Tart]

Number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, that's, that's, that's what I want. And we were working. I was, I was in there with him and then I had to stop for a little while because we started shooting the show and I, I personally don't have the discipline to. And I know somebody's going to listen to this, be like, you got to do it, bro.

[Adam Pally]

Like, we don't talk to our audience.

[John Gabrus]

We have no r. We scream that to whoever.

[Adam Pally]

We don't listen to it.

[Carl Tart]

But like, like, because I've said this to other people, I said this to Eugene and I was like, yeah, bro. I just don't have the discipline to go to the gym before I got 6:00am call time. You want me to go to gym at 4 o' clock in the morning? Are you out of your mind?

[Adam Pally]

He does, though. I mean, like, he does. He really does.

[John Gabrus]

That's. He's one of those guys too, when you're like. He's like, I work. He works so much and is a dad and does that. And you're like, oh. And I, I, if I, if I'm not at the gym by 9:00am I'm like, yeah, party's over.

[Adam Pally]

I'm gonna.

[Carl Tart]

This is what Eugenie said to me in the, the, in the green room at UCB that made me feel. It was wild. And this is our guy. Great dude.

[Adam Pally]

The best.

[Carl Tart]

He goes, let me ask you something, Carl. Are you an adult? And I said, yeah. Not thinking that he was gonna say. He said, well, then grow up.

[Adam Pally]

Eugene Cordero said that to you.

[Carl Tart]

Like, start short circuiting. Because he was right.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

He can really. He's got to be a legendary, very ball buster.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, but I, but you're right though.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Grow up is a really, like, you know, someone tells you to grow up and you feel left behind. Yeah. You feel like that feeling of being in school and not knowing information about something. It really makes you panic.

[Carl Tart]

He was saying in the way of, like, make the decisions that you need to make. Don't talk to me about it.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, right.

[Carl Tart]

Because you got the answers. You know what you need to be doing, right? If you really, if you really want to do it or if you don't want to do it, that's fine too. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Someone one time phrase it to me and said, you can't say, stop saying you don't have time to work out and start saying, I prioritize blank over working out and admit to yourself what you're doing. Like, and you could say, I prioritize Sleeping in. But then you can also, like, look at your full schedule and go, I guess I prioritize kicking back right after work and not doing any work out there. And then you start to realize, like, shit, do I actually prioritize working out? I gotta figure something out.

[Adam Pally]

There's no Gym at 30 Rock. There is, but you never hear about cast members or writers.

[John Gabrus]

Like, I heard that Forte was in there, like, relentlessly.

[Carl Tart]

Myers is in there. My coworker, Jimmy Fy, who is a. Oh, we love. He's great. He is in there. He goes to the gym. Like, I'm not trying to.

[Adam Pally]

30 Rock. And then there's a shower in 30 Rock.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, exactly. Which I'm not trying to use. I'm not trying to use.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Johnny Carson's shower and Steve Allen. Yeah. Get on the machine and, like, shakes.

[Adam Pally]

You.

[John Gabrus]

Another good one, then.

[Adam Pally]

Black Hole sun video.

[Carl Tart]

I'm not trying to, but I. I'm. The idea of that. I. I will admit I prioritize not taking a shower at work, not bringing a gy bag full of clothes.

[Adam Pally]

Right. Right.

[Carl Tart]

So I don't want to do that.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

So my workout schedule here has been rough. What I will do is, like, if I think about it, I'll, like, hold myself accountable. I have a gym in my apartment. I maybe hit it, like, once or twice a week. Not as much as I was, but, like, go down there, get some steps in on the treadmill, make sure I can still hit the 1105 dumbbells.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

You know, that's a lot. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I took the 85s for a set of eight on flat bench and on my. And I'm feeling. I was feeling myself, and then I hear you say 105, and I'm like, I gotta get.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

You know, I saw Shannon Sharpe, who is, you know, of course, a professional football player. I'm repping his podcast right now. Actually. He's doing the 125s. Like, shoulder press. What? Still?

[Adam Pally]

I mean, that's wild.

[Carl Tart]

Pushing 60, bro.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And I'm sure he might have a couple of aids.

[Adam Pally]

What's your relationship like with medications and stuff?

[Carl Tart]

Don't. Don't want it.

[Adam Pally]

Don't fucks with any of them. Are you hitting a doctor once a year? Like, what's your Dr. Rush, man?

[Carl Tart]

I had a. I'll tell you a doctor story from last year. It's about time. Because it's been a year. Yeah. I walk into this doctor, and, bro, it's like, you know how people talk about, like, racism amongst doctors and Stuff.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[Carl Tart]

I hadn't been, I, I will fully admit I hadn't been to a doctor in a really long time. And I was like, I'm 35, I should go to the doctor. I should just go, just go check on stuff. You know what I'm saying? And I go into this, I look for doctors, but I, I didn't look, look enough. Maybe I find a doctor that's literally like across the street from my apartment in the Valley. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You got to go over the hill.

[Carl Tart]

Over the hill to where?

[Adam Pally]

Beverly Hills.

[Carl Tart]

Oh yeah.

[Adam Pally]

If you could find the insurance. Like I, when I live in la, I lived in the Valley and anytime I was like looking for a dentist or a doctor or a psychologist and it would be like Van Nuys, I would be like, nope.

[Carl Tart]

I kind of, this is going to sound kind of weird, but this dude made me like, I want to find a black doctor.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Because I think it was the way that this dude treated me when I walked in was crazy. Immediately prescribing medication and stuff for stuff that he hadn't even checked on me. He looked at me and like he literally looked at my license which. And he was like £250. Like lupiture.

[Adam Pally]

He's doing.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. He's like, you're more like, you could be considered morbidly obvious beast.

[John Gabrus]

And I go, I'm like, I'm actually 20 pounds heavier.

[Carl Tart]

And he was like, oh, you are. You play a little ball. I go, yes, man. I'm not a.

[Adam Pally]

But it didn't hit you the same way.

[John Gabrus]

I like it better when X said it.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Cuz he like black trainer said it.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. Because the way he said it was like, it wasn't even that much. He was just like, well, I mean, look at you. He, he ran my blood pressure and I was already a little. And blood pressure was high and it's.

[John Gabrus]

Only going to be higher when you're anxious in that situation.

[Adam Pally]

I have high blood pressure, so I get it. My from, I get anxious now from putting the cuff on because I'm nervous that it's going to spike and then I'm going to get the speech about the high blood pressure.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So it's like I, that number, that number is skewed. There's no way it's coming out honest.

[Carl Tart]

This dude prescribed me medication. I, I like, my grandma is a nurse and so I call her. The other thing is with like southern black people, they take their medication. And my family, high blood pressure does run in my family. Family. My blood pressure was high after I, like, calmed down. We read it again, and it was lower. It's still high, but it's. It's high on the normal side. You know what I'm saying?

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

So it's high. I should.

[John Gabrus]

It's not in the red, but maybe I'm wearing the orange.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And my blood pressure cuff has a color scale.

[Carl Tart]

It was.

[John Gabrus]

They've never been green.

[Adam Pally]

That's helpful because there are these symbols on mine that I don't know what they mean.

[John Gabrus]

Those are called numbers.

[Carl Tart]

Reading them.

[Adam Pally]

I've been trying to read them. It's a skull and crossbones because it makes this sound.

[Carl Tart]

Boop.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. It says rip you.

[Carl Tart]

Rip you. They do scare you with, like, if your blood pressure is this, you need to go to the doctor right now.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, they scare the. Out of you.

[Carl Tart]

I'm like, bro, I'm. I'm still. I'm still living.

[Adam Pally]

I'm in the doctor.

[Carl Tart]

The silent killer.

[Adam Pally]

Death creeps in through your gums. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Why? I had that. I. When I. I was getting my blood pressure done, and the doctor's like. I'm like, well, my blood pressure. I'm a little nervous, so it's up high. He's like, imagine this. If it's at this all the time, it's like redlining your engine all the time, and that's a little bit more than the normal miles on the engine. I was like, yeah, scary as hell. I was like, well, okay.

[Carl Tart]

I didn't not take it seriously. But the way. The way he did everything else, this was a great. He read the blood pressure. He was like. He's like. I mean, at this weight and at your age, you probably have diabetes too, and you probably got high, high cholesterol. It's probably all these things going on in 10 minutes.

[John Gabrus]

We could figure that out, dog.

[Carl Tart]

I'm like, what the hec hell? He was like, I gotta. You gotta get on this medicine today. You gotta go get this. And I'm like, can we just, like, try something else? Yeah, like, can I just, like, eat Good for, like, three weeks. Can I do something else? And he prescribed this. This blood pressure medication to me, and I didn't want to take it. I called my grandma. I was telling her. I was like, I don't want to take that. I don't want to start just getting dependent on medicine right now. There has to be. If I was gonna drop dead, I probably would have done it already. I still do very strenuous shit.

[Adam Pally]

There's still time, but.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, yeah, there's still time. But, like, I'm like, do I need to be this panic today? But I was crying, bro. I was like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, I got diabetes and this. I don't even be like, there are people out here who do shit way worse than me. Yeah, I go out a lot, but I'm not pounding eight drinks a night and stuff like that. I might go have a glass of wine with the homies or. Like, it. It, like, I. People live out here way worse than I do.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And you're mobile, and I'm mobile.

[Carl Tart]

I work. I'm working out every day. I'm active. I'm. I'm not sitting. I'm not, like, sedentary all day. I'm like, not only am I actually working out every day at this, I'm also still doing improv shows. Yeah, I'm still.

[Adam Pally]

You're burning calories all the time. I feel like when you said, I, I want a black doctor, it really is resonates, because what I was gonna say about your. That experience sounds like a bad fit. And like, my dad is a. Is a physician, and his whole thing is, like, is personal. So he makes these relationships with his patients that are like. Like, they text, you know, and they. They. There's like a different fit for a lot of these patients. And I think medicine is going in that direction. And it should. Yeah. Where, like, it's not just about running numbers and. And getting scores and then lowering numbers and fitting them in. It's.

[John Gabrus]

It's like blanket prescriptions.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. It's like. Because that. That will never work. It's about finding someone that you have comfort checking in with about your own health. And, like, that is really challenging. And for men especially. We've talked about this on here a lot. My dad hammers at home. Men die all the time.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

From just not checking.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, because men are like, I'm fine, you know? And like.

[John Gabrus]

Or it's more like, I don't want to find out or I don't want to know.

[Carl Tart]

I definitely have that attitude. I was like, if I'm going to drop dead, let me do it.

[Adam Pally]

I have it confused completely.

[Carl Tart]

Make sure my mom doesn't find my condoms. She doesn't know I have sex.

[Adam Pally]

She doesn't wait.

[John Gabrus]

She prefers Ira Dog.

[Carl Tart]

She's crying.

[Adam Pally]

She's like, I guess there won't be any little Carls.

[Carl Tart]

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[Adam Pally]

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[Carl Tart]

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[Adam Pally]

Well, Jerry, for people who have had.

[Carl Tart]

A heart attack like us, diet and exercise might not be enough to lower the risk of another one. Okay. To help know if we're at risk, we should be getting our ldlc, our bad cholesterol checked, and talking to our doctor.

[Adam Pally]

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[Carl Tart]

And if it's still too high, Repatha.

[Adam Pally]

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[Carl Tart]

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[Carl Tart]

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[Carl Tart]

Today we gotta talk about may male physician's assistants. Yeah, because it's I. It was a red when I went to go see this doctor, his assistant was this weird looking dude who had on a Hawaiian shirt and like looked kind of almost as if he was like musty a little bit. And I'm like, now where is the bad Latina?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Where is the bad Filipina?

[Adam Pally]

That's what you need in the front. That's what you're Looking for. To calm your mind.

[Carl Tart]

To calm mind. To ease my mind. Where is this woman to make me.

[John Gabrus]

Want to be helped?

[Carl Tart]

To make me want to be helped?

[Adam Pally]

Mad because your insurance card isn't filled out of the back. Yeah, like, that calms me down.

[Carl Tart]

Where is. Where is she? Where she at? This guy was in here. Then I go into this dude tells me, I got all this shade. You at your weight? He like. I was like, bro, I was like, can you guess how much do you think I weigh, Doc? And then we went through. He's like, well, on your license, it says you're 250 pounds, which you need to be like, 175. I was like, Bro, I ain't gonna never be 175. I'm a big dude. Yeah, 175 is crazy. I have not been 175 since I was 16 years old.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Ninth grade is when I went 175.

[Carl Tart]

That's not gonna happen. I understand that I need to lose weight. I get that. That's not a. That's not. Like, I didn't know. Yeah, yeah. No, I, like, you need to understand the steps that I am taking to be healthy and to do these things. LA is. I. I do think LA is much easier to be healthy is.

[Adam Pally]

Than one thing.

[Carl Tart]

Even though you're walking more, the food situation here is. It's bad.

[John Gabrus]

LA's got options everywhere.

[Carl Tart]

Can I ask y', all, is the. Is the. The lamb over rice, is that bad for you?

[John Gabrus]

I don't know. I get it, too. I don't know.

[Adam Pally]

I eat it too much to know. Like, I let.

[John Gabrus]

I go, like, half the amount of white sauce, you know, I try to.

[Carl Tart]

Put it on the side.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I tried. I don't know if it's bad for you or not, because to me, it's protein and rice.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Adam Pally]

I can't tell. But I.

[John Gabrus]

But then sometimes when you see the flat top where he's chopping it up and it's like, greases. It's got like a, like, kiddie pool amount of liquid on it.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. You're like, I don't know the way to cook it.

[Carl Tart]

I go get my blood work done. He calls me back, and I'm nervous. I'm sitting there, like, more nervous than the STD test. I'm like, listen, like, am I crying on face?

[Adam Pally]

You know, you're guilty on that one. You're like. You're like, I can see what I have.

[Carl Tart]

And I talk to my dad, and I'm telling My dad. I'm like. He said, I got blood pressure. He's like, yeah, you got. We all got it. That's my dad. He's like, yeah, we got it. Your grandma got it, your uncle got it. Everybody got it. We all got family. That is what it is. He said, I got. I. I don't. I'm only one that got diabetes. Your grandma ain't got it, Your uncle ain't got it, like. And I'm like, okay. So that doesn't run necessarily in the family. That's something that happened to you.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

That made me feel a little better. And then he was like, look, son. He's like. He's like. I'm like, maybe I should get on like Ozempic or Munjaro. He said, don't put that in your. Your body. You don't put that in your body. Here's what you do. You. You know what? You like to go out there. You like to eat them chicken wings. I know you like to eat them chicken wings. He said, Instead of getting 12 of them, just eat six of them. And I was like, I'm gonna stop drinking. He's like, man, I'm having me a drink right now. You ain't got to stop drinking. Just watch yourself.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

He's like, son, you gotta watch yourself. Everything you do, do a little bit less. That's all you got to do. You can still eat your chicken wing. You can still eat your grits and eggs.

[John Gabrus]

Would it be offensive to you if your dad was my doctor?

[Carl Tart]

That's a guy.

[John Gabrus]

I ha.

[Carl Tart]

He was like, don't do Ozempic. And I was like, my dad is. Is like, he's a smart man. He knows everything, but he's not the most book learned guy.

[John Gabrus]

You know what I mean?

[Carl Tart]

And when he said, don't do it, I was like, I'm not gonna do it. Also, I don't think overeating is my problem. I can't really. I think it might be the choices of food that I make.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

But I don't think overeating is my issue.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know.

[Carl Tart]

I'm not a huge eater.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know. It's just so hard. Like, it's so different for everyone. I don't know what anyone's problem is. I was on the first fence. My dad. My dad kept being like, your. Your numbers are bad. Like, you're. You know, and my mother died young, and my grandfather died young of heart stuff, like, really young. And so he was like, I think we. We should Just like, kept saying. I kept telling G. Was like, my dad is like, on me about it. My dad would even be like, I think it's hurting your career. You know, like, he was really trying to get me on it. And I was just like, I don't know. It feels vain. It feels like. Like I can't control myself. Like, I can't. Yeah, whatever. And then we had a cardiologist on this show who was really, really passionate.

[John Gabrus]

The word he used that I love, that I want to remember is Kardashian.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Kardashian Vacation.

[John Gabrus]

He said, now that everyone thinks Ozempic is just for your looks, people are hesitant to take it because they don't want to come across as shallow.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

But he's like, but it's saving people's lives.

[Adam Pally]

And he's had patients that he had prescribed it to who have said, no, I'm not going to do that, and then have died.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

From a heart attack. And it's like the. The pluses. Forget the weight and stuff. The pluses of, like, preventing a heart attack or stroke, which is, like, really genetically inclined in my family was just, like, too much for me to say no to at that point because I was like, I. I just don't want to go out like that. You know, I got too much going on.

[Carl Tart]

You got kids and stuff.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Mine is coming from a similar place. Not exact same place, but I feel like I try so get in shape. And I eat healthy and I exercise a lot. And I don't see. I don't.

[Adam Pally]

And I was healthy, you know, I'm healthy. And my. And my numbers were.

[John Gabrus]

I wish my. I'm trying to get my doctor to give me test instead of Ozempic. That's what I. I want to get on the trt.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I want to get on test and I want to take everything in one needle.

[John Gabrus]

Can you, like, put the substance.

[Adam Pally]

I'm on a 2.5 of Mounjaro, and I gotta say, I'm not great about it. I miss a couple.

[Carl Tart]

Couple. You gotta do it yourself.

[Adam Pally]

You're supposed to, but my wife does it. I. I've.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah. I'm gonna need somebody to put that needle in me.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I can't look at it and do it. But I also have drank and ate right through it. Like, people like, oh, stop your drinking. It has not. I have not felt.

[Carl Tart]

I still, like, that's my thing. I'm like, if it don't stop you from doing. Like, if it don't stop you from doing the things that you want to do.

[Adam Pally]

I think it's from, From. And I am not a doctor and I'm not prescriptive, but I think from.

[John Gabrus]

Listeners remember that.

[Adam Pally]

Listeners remember that. Like, yeah, when you, like, overdose on.

[John Gabrus]

Mounjaro, we're like, hey, I'm doing live resin and manjaro. Like, my Dr. Adam Pal said, no.

[Carl Tart]

No, don't do that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. But like, from what my dad said, it's not even about the result. It's about the, the medicine is a wonder drug and it has, they have found a way to prevent heart attack and stroke. That's it. Like, wait. Like, he's like, do you care? You're 43. Like, you know, like, and Marvel's not calling. Like, it's not like I need to be in shape. He's like, if you don't care, then what's the difference? Like, don't die. Like, my grandfather died young. He was younger than me now, and I was really going through it. I was really like, I'm going to die. Like, I, you know, I, I also have a ton of cocaine use in my past. Like, yesterday. Like, yesterday.

[John Gabrus]

Why is that? Nightel.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And future.

[Adam Pally]

And future. So I just, you know, and I got to say, I, I, I find it to be, like, pretty benign.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I'm. So far, it's, it's just made me sleep a little longer. Like, I get tired, which I think is probably cut down my eating. Cuz I eat. Like when I get home, if I'm.

[Carl Tart]

If I wanted, if I was tired, I'd go home and go to sleep. As opposed to being like, I guess I go grab a whiskey or something.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, 100%. I've had times when people have said before, before I, A month ago, when people have been like, can you lose some weight for a roll or something. Where nyquil is my best friend.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Just so you're not eating.

[Adam Pally]

Eight o'. Clock.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, man. All right. That makes me, that makes me think about a little different.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. When I saw Mitch. Yeah, he looks great. And I was like, how do you feel? And he's like, honestly, I feel really good. Yeah. Because little things aren't bothering me. Like they would, you know? And I was like, oh, man, I do have a bunch of little things.

[John Gabrus]

I, I'm on a text thread with. Of a bunch, bunch of mutual friends that are overweight and on it. And they're all comparing, like, because they know I'm trying to get on it. So I'm constantly talking about it. So I've got tons of anecdotal input and.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. What are they saying?

[John Gabrus]

That everyone seems to be enjoying it. Some people are dealing with some constipation from it and.

[Carl Tart]

And.

[John Gabrus]

And figure out ways around that.

[Adam Pally]

It actually evened out with me because I have diarrhea 99 of the time. I'm a diary.

[John Gabrus]

I'm not afraid to be constipated just a little bit.

[Adam Pally]

It actually, like, just kind of evened me out a little. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Now I'm just taking real shits.

[Carl Tart]

When my blood works came back.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Nothing besides the. The high blood. The high blood pressure.

[John Gabrus]

That's what I got.

[Carl Tart]

That's what I. Not even pre diabetes.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Normal high cholesterol on the higher end, but no need for medicine, Right?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And that's.

[Carl Tart]

I said, my man, I need you to apologize to me. He goes, well, listen, we still got to get that high blood. I said, my man apologized to me. He goes, I'm sorry. I said, you diagnosed me with all this stuff before you even got my blood tested.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You could have waited 20 minutes, could have come for me if also you.

[Adam Pally]

Could have had a conversation with me, and you could have found out that, like, I play ball. I have. I actually do get cardio. I am different than every other.

[John Gabrus]

You're.

[Adam Pally]

Man, you're built different. Everybody is. So, like, how can I walk in and you're like, boom, you need this medicine. Makes no sense.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. When I get on that scale and it says 310, they're always like, jesus Christ. I'm like, I just ran a half marathon.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I'm six four.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

What are we talking about here, man? I am. I'm not perfect at all. Do I like my Popeyes? Yes. Do I eat it five times a week? No. Do I eat it? I maybe only eat it once a month.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

But if I got a craving for it, I'mma eat it. Like, it's. It ain't like I'm doing stuff. I. I try. I think for me, it was more about if you're not going to be working out, like, while I'm out here, and I haven't been working out as much as I was. Just try to make a couple better choices. Especially because you know you're going to want to go drink tonight. You know you don't want to. So, hey, how about, like, today? I haven't. I haven't eaten yet. I'm gonna get something when I leave here. Me, too. And then we should all go. Y' all got another record after this, so. Yeah, but, like, I Like making better choices. That's to answer your original question.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Like just making better choices. If I like again, like I said, I'm not a. Sometimes what I do think is bad that I do is to avoid eating bad. I won't eat at all.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And then you get like, I do.

[Adam Pally]

That shit and then focus on that. I don't know. Cause because like I'm, I do the same thing and I'm. But I'm always like. But they say intermittent fasting.

[John Gabrus]

Like the psychological issue I have is that I go, well, I haven't eaten all day, so I'm allowed to have.

[Carl Tart]

I'm allowed to have something bad. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That's how you end up sleeping like a boa constrictor.

[John Gabrus]

Right. Laying there with. You have like two 21 honey chipotle wings right here.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Two sugar fish boxes stacked up in my gully.

[John Gabrus]

I skipped breakfast, so it's fine.

[Carl Tart]

I used to, before I like started working out, when I was making like what I thought were good choices, I would be like, well, I haven't eaten all day. I haven't eaten. And here it is 4 o', clock, I gotta go to an improv show. After like, you know, I gotta audition and I got an improv show. I'm just gonna get Taco Bell and I can get what I want because this is gonna be the only meal I eat all day.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

And they're like, no. Cause it's the, it's the stuff in that food.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Carl Tart]

That's causing other things.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, oh also, it's also rarely the last thing. Cuz like you come out, then you don't eat. I don't like, I'm. This is a big topic for us is like when you, let's say you have a show at 7:30, improv show at 7:30 or 8, 8:30. Where are you eating? Because like I don't like to eat. I don't want to feel that I've eaten anywhere near the show. Like I need to be like.

[John Gabrus]

But I don't also want to necessarily eat dinner at five.

[Adam Pally]

Right. But I can't eat dinner at five and I don't want to to. And if I don't eat, then by the time we get out, I'm going to have a, A ton of Taco Bell.

[Carl Tart]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

So it's like this weird no man's land of food consumption.

[John Gabrus]

Like I guess I'm sitting down for dinner at 10:15. And at 10:15, no matter what you did that day, it's impossible to order a salad.

[Carl Tart]

Cuz you order it from a bar.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

You ordering. Let me get. Let me get the turkey burger.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, and like that. And that, that choice. And I'm always like, is that choice really neglig? Like, it's negligible what you're making? Like, yeah, okay. I got the turkey burger instead of the hamburger.

[John Gabrus]

I got the turkey burger instead of the hamburger. I got sweet potato fries instead of fries.

[Carl Tart]

And I got that.

[Adam Pally]

And I didn't like it as much.

[John Gabrus]

And it was medium and I ate it with a fork and knife and. But who knows how they cook it here at this. At this Irish pub run by like Dominican guy.

[Carl Tart]

And I had three. I had three PBRs and. And three shots of Jack.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, right. Yeah. Oh, that sounds so good.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, that sounds great. I'm hungover. And that sounds good.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, that sounds really good. You want to plug anything? Is there anything that.

[Carl Tart]

Yeah, I gotta plug. I gotta plug me in the boys.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Carl Tart]

Hollywood Ham Handbook. We have a whole Patreon podcast, you guys.

[John Gabrus]

So many tiers of Patreon. You're so much. And you guys got new shit coming out.

[Carl Tart]

We got new stuff coming out. So basically we got the patreon. Patreon.com forward/hollywood handbook. That's a show hosted by Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements. Me and those guys do a basketball podcast called the Flagrant Ones. And me, Hayes and my buddy Greg Gallant do a baseball podcast called the Filthy Ones. And me, Greg Gallant and Ryan Mahoney do a football podcast called Foosballs. And on top of that, this summer, me and my good friend Lamar woods.

[John Gabrus]

Of XOXO Gossip Kings.

[Carl Tart]

XOXO Gossip Kings. We. We watched. I watched it for the first time. He had already seen it. It was Gossip Girl. We did a whole breakdown of the whole series. We watched it. We have a new show coming out this summer where we watch the Sopranos because I've never seen it and he has.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, hell.

[Carl Tart]

And it's gonna be called xoxo bada bings. So be on the lookout for the so pod. And then watch Saturday Night Live Saturday nights at 11:30.

[John Gabrus]

You can tivo it if it's too late for you. Well, Carl, when you're out in LA this summer, let's. Let's spot each other on some bench.

[Carl Tart]

Absolutely.

[John Gabrus]

Let's rip out.

[Carl Tart]

We'll get X on the show.

[Adam Pally]

You're the funny. And congrats on. On the show, man.

[Carl Tart]

Like, thanks, man. It's fun.

[John Gabrus]

Thank you, ct. Thanks for coming out, buddy. It's A pleasure, man.

[Adam Pally]

Crazy Carl is the. Just like, I love his energy. I love being around him.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, no, this is one of the first guests that I've already talked to a shit ton about fitness and health in my own time. Because we're constantly texting each other as fellow big ex football player guys who still identify as jocks but are maybe need to get our ass in gear a little. We're texting constantly. So I'm so caught up on him and I know what he's going through, moving to New York in his crazy schedule and stuff. But hearing it from the Carl's mouth is always the best.

[Adam Pally]

I really like the docs doctor talk too. I feel like that's something that. That like, especially the like, like, I never haven't heard that side of Dr. Right. Talk.

[John Gabrus]

I haven't experienced racism.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I mean, I've experienced anti Semitism quite a bit. Especially at the doctor. They're always like, so you're uncircumcised. I'm like, why are we leading with this? But.

[John Gabrus]

Well, to be fair, sir, your hog is out and you're in the waiting room. Well, I'm just running the cold water on it.

[Carl Tart]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Well, it's raw because there's no forest, but. But, yeah, no, like, it was really. It was just such a good conversation and it was. I feel like it was. He was really honest and able to hear other. The other side and like, great.

[John Gabrus]

And it's very relatable for us. Like, he's got a crazy schedule. He's constantly battling his love of going out and eating and versus his desire to get yoked, you know, like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's the most.

[John Gabrus]

I mean, I'm sure America can understand. Earth can understand.

[Adam Pally]

As far as America goes, going out and getting wasted is winning.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, right. That's true.

[Adam Pally]

The Yolked battle is like, the yolk is gone. See, I wonder if that's really like.

[Carl Tart]

Definitely.

[Adam Pally]

Yolked is coming up in the rankings, right?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, People are more buff than ever before.

[Adam Pally]

And alcohol is like a poison now. It's like a legit, like, will kill you potential.

[John Gabrus]

Good hot take is too many people are buff now.

[Adam Pally]

I like that. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, that might be a safe one too.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, that's good. Although then it. Then it's does bring in the weight loss drug conversation. And like, we're pro weight loss drugs.

[John Gabrus]

So we're pro everything.

[Adam Pally]

Right? So it's like, I don't know, maybe our take should be we're pro weight loss drugs. Yeah, maybe. Well, just.

[John Gabrus]

We're gonna get into some hot water anyway.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, we're gonna get well. I know I am.

[John Gabrus]

And I ain't talking Jacuzzi.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, wait till my Gaza debate. I don't know enough to debate.

[John Gabrus]

All right, well, until next week, brother.

[Adam Pally]

Stay alive.

[John Gabrus]

You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally A Smart List Media production in association with Sirius XM Produced by Devin Tory Bryant.

[Adam Pally]

And Anne Harris Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the.

[John Gabrus]

Music, Associate producer and video producer is Maddie McCann social media producer Tommy Galgano.

[Adam Pally]

Assistant engineer Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[John Gabrus]

Executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh me, Adam Pally. Ooh you Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson, and Bernie Kaminsky. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Adam Pally]

Just so everyone knows we do not.

[John Gabrus]

Have a discord, don't reach out to us.

[Adam Pally]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands. I'm telling you right now, if you're telling me to quit smoking weed, it's going to be like a major problem. Yeah, like, it's going to be an enormous. Like, maybe I could, but it will take down so many other It's a house of cards, you know. And like, you take that away from me and, you know, a child may end up dead. Like True True.

[Carl Tart]

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