Matching Tatts (w/ Henbo Henning)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

Episode: “Matching Tatts” (w/ Henbo Henning)
Release Date: October 9, 2025
Guest: Matthew “Henbo” Henning – Tattoo artist, musician, multidisciplinary creative

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Overview

In this episode, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally recount a weekend packed with life milestones, culminating in matching tattoos from their guest and friend, tattoo artist Matthew “Henbo” Henning. The episode explores ideas of adulthood, health, art as impermanence, the working-class roots of creativity, and the rituals of male friendship. The conversation is raucous, self-deprecating, and deeply human—at times both rowdy and moving. Henbo offers insight into the life of an artist straddling cultures and disciplines, while Jon and Adam reveal the ways they’re (reluctantly) embracing healthier lifestyles.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Milestones, Growing Up, and Parental Perspective

• Bar/Bat Mitzvah Reflections: Adam describes the emotional experience of his children celebrating their bar and bat mitzvahs, which led to contemplation about aging and parenting.
  • "It's a reminder of your own age mortality every day with children." (Adam, 03:10)
• The Emotional Weight: Jon and Adam reflect on generational shifts and the bittersweetness of seeing your kids step into adulthood.

2. Friendships and Living Life to the Fullest

• Wild Weekend Recap: Jon and Adam detail their “Saturday/Sunday/Monday” of partying, meaningful family time, and spontaneous tattoo sessions.
  • "That's life to the fullest... I'd trade that 10 times out of 10 for just rest and nothing else." (Adam, 04:21)
• Matching Tattoos: They decide to commemorate their friendship and this period of change by getting matching tattoos from Henbo.

3. Introducing Matthew Henbo Henning

• Multidisciplinary Life: Adam praises Henbo’s status as a “quadruple threat”—tattooing, music, fashion design, and art—a major theme throughout the episode.
  • "You literally can do everything. It's wild." (Adam, 10:41)
• Tattooing as a Calling: Henbo shares how he came from a working-class background in northern England, gravitated toward art as a kid, and found tattooing as a vehicle for self-expression.

4. Working-Class Roots and Finding Art

• Early Jobs: All three share hilarious and sometimes harrowing stories about bad jobs—dishwashing, landscaping with ex-cons, call centers, and more.
  • "You’re like the lowest of everyone, you know?... I used to do it in between. So I used to work the morning shift... And then I’d go back home, play on my N64." (Henbo, 06:08)
• School as Survival: The group bonds over school memories, likening them to prison—“schools are, I mean, they are… something very prison-like about them.” (Adam, 19:49)

5. Entering the Tattoo World

• Finding His Style: Henbo traces his unique artistic signature (“your style is kind of unmistakable”) back to doodling and hustling in the back of class as a kid.
  • “It’s just, I’ve always done that... I’d actually charge people to draw as well, so I’d make a bit of money on the side.” (Henbo, 18:55)
• Apprenticeships and DIY Spirit: He discusses the rare tradition of apprenticeships in tattooing, learning from mentors, and the nerve-wracking reality of “scarring up 99 people” before being trusted with clients (51:01).

6. Culture, Humor, and National Identity

• Northern England vs. Long Island: The banter highlights the similarities between their upbringings, with both locales being “anti-culture,” stubborn, and full of characters.
• British Drinking & Malaise: Henbo gives a comedic but sharp analysis of British social life—cocaine, “nose beers,” drinking as escapism, and the “get on with it” mentality.
  • “English people love drugs in general because they’re just like, this is shit. And it’s off my fucking mind, right, for three days—and then I can go back to work, you know?” (Henbo, 30:11)
• Rituals of Pub Culture: They riff on flat cask ales, parkas, sausage rolls, and the collective impulse to seize rare sunny days.

7. Health, Fitness, and Body Image

• Staying Active—Reluctantly: The group talks working out, running, ginger shots, and maintaining their “chubby but functional” physiques.
  • “Inside of me, there’s a much fatter man dying to get out all the time.” (Henbo, 35:07)
• Body Image & Acceptance: Gabrus and Pally joke about running shirtless, the realities of being big dudes, and the value of honesty (“I’d rather be open about it…” – Adam, 36:44).
• Fitness Habits: Henbo trains thanks to his wife Jen ("jacked," into weights), likes F45 classes, the “bro split,” and runs marathons—often disbelieved by others because of his build.
• Endurance and Perspective: Henbo describes getting through marathon pain and tattoo pain by mentally going “to dark places” and drawing inspiration from seeing others who have bigger challenges (47:25).

8. Art as Impermanence & Tattoo Philosophy

• On Permanence: Henbo presents the philosophy that tattoo art “dies with the canvas”—tattoos are uniquely impermanent, living and dying with the person.
  • “It’s the art that dies with the canvas.” (Henbo, 26:26)
• Shock Value: The trio swap stories about tattoo pain, embarrassing tattoo locations, and bodily mishaps during sessions—Henbo’s “full butt cheek” tattoo is highlighted for its agony (46:55).
• Matching Tattoos & Friendship Rituals: Jon and Adam get matching “hard 10”/dice tattoos, commemorating their decades-old friendship and their love of Vegas and “rolling hard.”

9. Henbo’s Broader Creative Life

• Goodluck NYC: Henbo describes his tattoo shop as inclusive, calm, and elevated, with a rooftop that encourages community.
• Music and Collabs: He’s in a band called Night Sports, collaborating with members of Long Island legends the Movie Life and others, and is working with Dave’s New York clothing on design projects.
• Community Engagement: Next up is teaching art and tattooing to kids for Philadelphia’s outdoor mural project (64:25).

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On art and mortality:
  “People are like, tattoos are so permanent…But it’s the art that dies with the canvas.”
  — Henbo, [26:26]

• On tattoo pain:
  "No, it hurts the most — anus."
  — Henbo, [46:55]

• On running shirtless:
  “It looks like someone’s throwing a trash bag of butter down the road.”
  — Henbo, [44:18]

• On British resilience:
  “They’re just really real about the human condition—‘This is shit, but everyone’s gotta do it, so just get on with it.’”
  — Henbo, [30:32]

• On body image:
  “If I didn’t exercise, God only knows what I’d look like. This is what I look like with constant exercise.”
  — Jon, [35:17]

• On male friendship & rituals:
  “Now I just can’t wait to go to Vegas and bust it out.”
  — Jon, about their matching tattoo, [55:58]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [00:12] – Weekend recap: bar/bat mitzvahs, milestones, friendship
• [10:10] – Introduction of guest Matthew Henbo Henning
• [11:41] – Henbo’s roots: Growing up in northern England, work, art
• [18:55] – Developing his distinctive style; art as school survival
• [26:26] – Art that “dies with the canvas,” impermanence of tattoos
• [33:44] – Fitness routines, “bro splits,” running marathons
• [39:00] – Rugby, agility for big bodies, athleticism as identity
• [44:18] – On running shirtless and public vulnerability
• [46:55] – Tattoo pain stories; most sensitive body parts
• [51:01] – Early tattoo apprenticeship, first tattoos, building skills
• [54:24] – Branching into fashion, music, and creative projects
• [55:42] – Matching tattoos ritual; meaning in shared symbols
• [60:22] – Plugs: Goodluck NYC, Night Sports band, Dave’s NY project
• [64:25] – Art education and community projects in Philadelphia

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Conclusion

This energetic and heartfelt episode blends comedy, vulnerability, and creative insight. Gabrus and Pally, ever the self-mocking “professional partiers,” reflect seriously—even as they joke—on what it means to age, support friends, stay healthy, and keep your inner artist (or child) alive. Henbo Henning, their guest, offers a window into the working-class roots of artistry, the rarefied world of tattooing, and the possibilities that open when you say yes to life’s messy, vibrant impermanence.

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Further Info & Plugs

• Tattoo Shop: Goodluck NYC (Greenpoint, Brooklyn, second floor)
• Band: Night Sports (with members of the Movie Life, Incendiary, Angel Dust, etc.)
• Instagram: @henbohenning
• Upcoming: Collaborating with Dave’s New York fashion, art teaching for Philadelphia mural project

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“That’s life to the fullest...I’d trade that 10 times out of 10.”
— Adam Pally, [04:21]

Transcript

[John Gabris]

Smart.

[Matthew Henbo]

Bless media.

[John Gabris]

Good morning, Adam. How are you today?

[Adam Pally]

I'm good. I'm tired. You know, we were out last night together. Not till late, but getting tattooed.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, we were getting some tattoos.

[Adam Pally]

Did.

[John Gabris]

I did some day drinking, met up with you, got tattoos, then did some night drinking. Classic Sunday fun day.

[Adam Pally]

That sounds like a lot of fun.

[John Gabris]

When I woke up this morning, I'm like, why are we scheduling work on Monday mornings when we. It's off to us. Like, why is this not Tuesday morning?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. We could have done this anytime. I think it has more to do with when the studio is actually, they say that. Except every time I come here. No one works here. There's no one in this building.

[John Gabris]

There's a new person at the front desk every time we come and they don't know how anything works. I want to say this weekend, do you feel different after what happened this weekend?

[Adam Pally]

What Jon is referring to listeners. My children got.

[John Gabris]

Adam and I kissed on the lips.

[Adam Pally]

We kissed on the lips finally. No, that happened. That's happened many times. My children were bar and bat mitzvah. I have a 12 year old and a 13 year old and we're Jews and they were bar and bar mitzvahed. And it was a big party and John was there.

[John Gabris]

It was a great time. But there's this element of like, as you get older, like you don't necessarily feel older, but when my little brother had kids.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

That really made me feel. And I wonder how it feels to have kids that are like at that level. Because you, you remember your own bar mitzvah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And you remember how like you were like, I'm growing up.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Now you're. Now you have the humans that you've been keeping alive for. Yeah. Now they are quote unquote, becoming on their paths to adults. As the rabbi.

[Adam Pally]

It feels good. I mean, like, there's so much more. You know, 13 is just like fool's gold a little. Because they're still a kid. So much. And they're still so attach. Danielle and I that they are still acting in our image a lot. They don't want to let us down and they want to disappoint. And you know that. So it's like it's a little premature for me to be like, well, they're on there. They're now adults.

[Matthew Henbo]

Right, Right.

[Adam Pally]

Because there's so much more. I mean, like they're.

[John Gabris]

They.

[Adam Pally]

They each have to go through big breakups still. They each have to go through puberty. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

The non actual date stuff, like the timeline Stuff, but, like, life.

[Adam Pally]

Life stuff is still ahead, you know, and that stuff is where you really get fucked up. So I. What's good is that. What's. What was really great about it is that they were. They seemed really humble and appreciative through the whole thing.

[John Gabris]

Dude, they are so emotionally mature. It was like, they are such kids.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, they're kids.

[John Gabris]

They're objectively kids, but they were so emotionally mature. It was like, truly impressive. Yeah, I was very proud on behalf, like, just having known them since they were zero and being your buddy, I was just like, proud of them how they did in their Torah portions and everything. It was like all around awesome.

[Adam Pally]

Really good.

[John Gabris]

And they wearing the.

[Adam Pally]

You're wearing the swag. Yeah, no, I. I couldn't be more.

[John Gabris]

I'm stay repping the banai.

[Adam Pally]

I couldn't. I couldn't be more, you know, proud of them and. And I do feel old and, you know, I. I think so much of my death stuff comes from watching them age every day.

[John Gabris]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, it's a reminder of your own age mortality every day with children. But this was a little bit of a respit from that, in a way, for this weekend because it was just like pure joy.

[John Gabris]

It was huge celebration.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. You're celebrating and you're celebrating and. And, yeah, we haven't had as a family a big celebration like that. Really. So it was nice. It was really, really.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Family from all over. And then the next day, you and I, like, this is an amazing look into your life. You are this responsible father who gave a beautiful speech and put on a huge party for their kids choreographed dance routine with his daughter. Pretty fucking elite did do that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

It was pretty fudgeing. Awesome. Tearing. Got me tearing up watching my buddy dance to ushers. Yeah. I'm like, why am I getting choked up to this song?

[Matthew Henbo]

Too funny.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

But then the next day, what do we do? Grab a beer and get a tattoo.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

And then the next day, we sit on microphones and talk to the guy who tattooed us. It's been a hell of a Saturday. Sunday, Monday here, but those are the best.

[Adam Pally]

That's. Those are the best, guy. And that's life. That's life to the fullest. Yeah. That's like, you're the full. You know, I don't. I don't think I slept more than like, four hours in the last three days. And like, that. That is more exciting to me than. I would trade that 10 times out of 10. Then coming in and be like, I got so Much rest this week. And I feel so good.

[John Gabris]

Right. I'm so ready if the other option is no huge milestones and friend time and family time to. Fuck that.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So I'm ready to rock. And I'm really excited to talk to himbo.

[John Gabris]

We've already talked to him for three hours last night.

[Adam Pally]

So Matthew Henning, he is. He's my favorite tattoo artist. I have three or four of his, depending on how you consider them. Because I got one that's so big that there's like different parts of it. But he's. He's also like. He runs his own clothing line. He's working with Dave's New York. He's got a. His own band. It's like he's got so much stuff.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, he.

[John Gabris]

We really connected over the fact of, like, we are multi disciplinary hustlers and it was. And it was fun to hang out with someone and none of our disciplines overlap in any way, which is very cool.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. We're learning.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. And it was awesome. And I'm still. I'm already booking. You and I are both already booking. New tattoo. Well, you'll see when you listen to the episode.

[Adam Pally]

Do we, do we get that?

[John Gabris]

They were like, okay, good rehearsal.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

When someone hands you a coffee, it's.

[Matthew Henbo]

Always just the best feeling in the world.

[John Gabris]

It doesn't even matter.

[Adam Pally]

Did you ever. We don't do, by the way, we don't do intros or anything, so. Yeah, it's already started.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Did you ever. Did you ever have to do a job where you got people coffee? Because I have. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

I've had some. Probably the worst jobs. The shittest jobs ever.

[Adam Pally]

What do you mean? What was this?

[Matthew Henbo]

I've done like pot wash, which is when you just clean dishes in a restaurant.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And you're like the lowest. You're the lowest of everyone, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And like you just. And like sometimes you can sneak like bits of food when it's left over. When you see a meal come back, you're like, oh, look at that, cotton chips. I was like 14. I used to do it in between. So I used to work the morning shift, which was 11 something, getting everything ready. And then I'd go back home, play on my N64 and go back and I would stink of just grease. Absolute honk of grease. And the chef really hated me. He just hated me as this like crazy Scottish chef and he collected garden gnomes. He was a weird dude. That was a bad job.

[John Gabris]

I was doing coffee runs before I was a coffee Drinker. So I didn't even understand, like, oh, wow. Like, I was.

[Adam Pally]

So you're like.

[John Gabris]

All the words they're telling me. And this is like 2004 when I was a PA and 03.04, and as an intern in PA at VH1, they'd be like, all right, so I just want this, this, this. And I'd be like, I don't even know, like a cappuccino, Frappuccino, macchiato. They were all like the same thing in my head. And I was just like, I have no idea. I fuck up orders all the time for like these 30 something.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, you're up. You get the wave of heat, dude.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. When you just get your sweat sweating.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Mine always starts on my forehead and then that triggers me to go, oh, my God, am I sweating everywhere? It was like. It's like you feel that one drop.

[John Gabris]

It's like butterflies in your stomach. Push sweat out of all your work.

[Matthew Henbo]

All of a sudden you feel like one single, like, drip of sweat going down your ass.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I had. I had a job when I was in college where I was famous. He's a. He was a famous actor and he had a production company. And through the New School and the Actors Studio, I got a job as one of his assistants because he had a bunch of assistants. And I didn't last very long because he. He used to ask for. He wanted. And Starbucks was like, this was 2001. 2000 maybe. So Starbucks was like really hip. You know what I mean? It was.

[John Gabris]

It was like kind of new. It was like frontier.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it was like, cool.

[Matthew Henbo]

And people had. The beginning of the beginning.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly.

[Matthew Henbo]

Had some, you know.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly. And it was like this idea. It was like a status symbol if you were buying your own coffee.

[Matthew Henbo]

Everyone wanted to cook, didn't they?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, the little thing. And he used to ask for his. For a cappuccino or a latte with the foam on the bottom.

[Matthew Henbo]

Well, isn't that a flat white? Is that a lie? Is that a made up drink?

[John Gabris]

An upside down chino?

[Adam Pally]

Do you know how I. Eventually I would come to believe that he was just like, with me, but the amount of times that I would be stuck in the line in a panic, being like, how am I gonna.

[John Gabris]

Prove, hearing no one say, oh, I'd like my cappuccino upside down? No one in front of me. Yeah. Yes, you're right.

[Adam Pally]

But I'm like, how am I gonna prove that the foam was. Because it'll eventually rise, you know, so it's Like, I'm. One day I'm running through the streets as fast as I can. This guy is cappuccinos. And every day he would be like, I don't know, this foam seems like it's rising. I'd be like, why? You know, and like, I just.

[John Gabris]

Well, you didn't work for Kevin Spacey for that long.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, according to him, it was a partnership.

[John Gabris]

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[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I know.

[John Gabris]

So we have like a full blown warmup. We recorded like maybe three unrecorded podcast last night. We spoke for the cuz Matthew inked us last night.

[Adam Pally]

Matthew the great. Matthew Hamb, the great. The. One of the great tattoo artists and artists of, of. Of our. I think our, our. Our times.

[John Gabris]

The.

[Adam Pally]

But the, the, the fun thing about you and like, I think I would say for our guest, you are by far the most multifaceted talent.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That we have had on like, a lot of people we've had are like really good in their job, really good at this one thing. One's a comedian, one's an actor, one's a neuroscientist, but you literally can do everything. It's wild.

[John Gabris]

You're like a quadruple threat. And singing, dancing and acting aren't all singing.

[Adam Pally]

He's a lead singer of our heart. So let's go through it. You are one of the most sought after tattoo artists, I would say, in America. I love this. Yeah, I would say, I mean, like, as being tattoo, we.

[John Gabris]

Sweet. We were honored to be squeezed. Like there's few.

[Adam Pally]

Few. There are few names. Right. Like Dr. Wu, you know. Right. Like, there's not a lot of.

[John Gabris]

I'm not going to be able to name anybody except for I have a.

[Matthew Henbo]

Lot, obviously within my industry. I have a lot of heroes and people I know that like super talented, really leading the way also.

[Adam Pally]

Right. Totally.

[Matthew Henbo]

And that's why I came here to work with them.

[Adam Pally]

Really.

[Matthew Henbo]

I always wanted to be around the best and Like, New York is, like, one of the really beginnings of tattooing, really. The Boweries and things like that.

[Adam Pally]

Right. So. All right, so you're a young kid in England. Manchester.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Obviously a huge Oasis fan.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know what it was like, first time. You know, when you grew up in, like, northern England, it's hard to get hyped about Axl Rose in assless chaps.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Because you're like, I can't wear that. You know, so when you see people who look like you, you're like, oh, ow. That could be me. You know, you can't. If you. I grew up, like, it just rains all the time and it's like. It was fun, you know, but, you know, I'm growing up on, like, just it, basically. You're growing up concrete. I don't know.

[Adam Pally]

Manchester is, like, even poorer. Seattle.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm from, like, Warrington, which is, like, 20 miles from Manchester. So, like.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's just.

[John Gabris]

It's the.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's the biggest town in the Northwest, and it's famous for making barbed wire. So it's called the Wire. It's like the nickname and the rugby team and all that.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, my God.

[Matthew Henbo]

And so, like, you know, it was. Honestly, it was brilliant. I love growing up there. Great child and everything like that. But, yeah, you can't. Like, you look at. You know, when you look at rock stars, they are literally that you. You don't. You know, you're getting told you're going to be a mechanic or something forever.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, brother.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

You're talking to two of them.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I mean, on Long island, everyone was like, well, hopefully you can become a cop, dude.

[Matthew Henbo]

I'm not joking. Sorry to interrupt. Long island and Warrington are, like, this close. Honestly, the first time I went there, I was like, oh, my God, I'm in Warrington again. I'm in back in Manchester.

[Adam Pally]

Be the only person ever get to hew it. Hewlett and go, like, I'm home.

[John Gabris]

Well, it. It makes sense to me, too, because, like, in Manchester, you're like, wow, London is in. In our country and very cool. But that place, Long island, is, like 40 minutes from New York City. And they're like, that place is whack. You don't need to eat Indian food. Like, you know, it's like, you could have pizza and bagels. We got the. It's like that. That kind of, like, insular. Like, Long island, like, believes it's an island anti culture.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's almost like an anti culture.

[John Gabris]

You're almost to Be like, no, I. I'm gonna get a dad. I'm gonna get a job at my dad's landscaping company.

[Matthew Henbo]

I used to be landscaping.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, me too. My uncle owns a landscaping company, so.

[Matthew Henbo]

Landscaping.

[Adam Pally]

Dude, it is weird. It's like British. It's like the British version. Put your hands up right now.

[John Gabris]

We can't touch each other, else we'll up the timeline. I don't know, it's just like, happened.

[Matthew Henbo]

I'll just do. Landscape is weird in it.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's like weird people doing weird things.

[Adam Pally]

That's why. What's. What. What is this?

[Matthew Henbo]

I don't know. These people don't. They're not like, normal. Like, you know, they get up at like.

[Adam Pally]

There's certainly. Certainly jobs. It's. You bring up a really interesting topic, which I. I'm sure since you do so many different things you can speak to. But like, job. Different jobs bring different people to them. You know, like even. Even through socioeconomic, you know, struggles and holding patterns. Even still in all those. It's always.

[John Gabris]

Like I said, you always realize why people are there.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Eventually you're like, someone's like, yeah, well, with my record, I'm like, oh, that's why my uncle was able to hire you, because this is all off the bus. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

I was like most people I was working with because I was like, bottom of the totem pole. I was like, doing it in between school, you know, so it's like 17 years old. Cycle to the site, and it's, oh, you're working with Terry today. And you're like, all right, Terry was a car thief two weeks ago.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And like, you go in and I'm not this what happens to me. I'm no word of lie. We're driving. He goes, get out of the car and take the bumper off that van. I was like, what? He goes, do it now. And you're like, okay. Because, you know, you're so scared. I'm scared of him. I'm more scared of him than getting me in trouble. So I just, like, steal the bumper.

[John Gabris]

I would do this landscape landscaping. And then also my uncle would take on these random jobs like rebuilding houses and shit. And he would always just put me in them because I could speak a little bit of Spanish and good English. So if I had to talk to anyone, so I'd be in these. Now I'm a 17 or 18 year old kid. I got a construction. I'm like, I know a little bit more about landscaping. I know how to cut lawns and rake now I'm in this situation. But I was so hungover one day I had such insane shits. I had to keep hitting the toilet. But there was no walls in the house.

[Adam Pally]

Oh God.

[John Gabris]

So the toilet is just like 15ft away in the middle of like all the studs are up. But no also like my uncle's brother is like sheet rocking. And I'm just sitting like, you're like blasting it out. Like just pants around my ankles. Like seeing like four Latin Puerto Rican guys working like just sitting there like, I'm sorry, I'm a young kid just in like a huge.

[Adam Pally]

You know, it's going to get back to your parents.

[John Gabris]

Oh, I know, I know. My uncle's like, hey, hey.

[Adam Pally]

Jonathan was a little off at work today.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have took xenodrine as like I was taking like diet pills recreationally to get up in the morning.

[Matthew Henbo]

Like it's a weird job. I know. Like, dude, bully you big time as all them jobs, they like send you doing crazy stuff. Like one of you know, you talk about foam on the bottom. Like, yo, go get a glass hammer. You're like, oh, that's a glass hammer. Or like tartan paint. And you're like, what the fuck's tartan paint? You're like, you know, you're like job weather purposely roaches.

[John Gabris]

And you're like, yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

My friend, we used to work together, he got the best one I've ever seen. And he was gone for like an hour. They asked him for a left handed brush, dude. He was going. And he's like a really nice dude as well. So he was just like, I can't find one, dude. There's no left handed brush, bro. He's like, what am I. They're taking piss out you. And he's like, oh man.

[John Gabris]

I was like, that's so cruelly so nervous and like don't want to up. And then people set you up for failure. It's so, so.

[Adam Pally]

All right, so you, who's do you start tattooing?

[Matthew Henbo]

When I was. I was actually. So I went to art school so I would finish high school in England. You finish high school at 16 and you go and do like a year at work experience in your last year. And they're like, they decide what it is off you. This test you do which is like the one of them, you know, like an aptitude test. Yeah, it's just like, I don't know what I'm writing. I'm just taking. Yeah, like this, I guess like, okay, so you, you could Be a mechanic or a florist. Sounds like. Well, I'm not doing that. Any of them. You know, you could work with machinery.

[Adam Pally]

Machinery or the most beautiful natural.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, you're a mechanic. On yours, you look at your buddies next to you and it's blowjob test.

[Adam Pally]

You're like, tester or subject.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

You'll find out on the day.

[Adam Pally]

It changes for.

[Matthew Henbo]

You'll find out in a day. Just put it through that hole on the wall.

[Adam Pally]

Wait, am I giving or getting?

[Matthew Henbo]

They send you out of 16, these weird adult jobs, and you've got zero idea. And luckily my mom was like. She's like, he can't do this. He's not gonna.

[Adam Pally]

And are you, like, doodling in notebooks? Like, are you? Yeah, because, like, you have this really specific. For people who don't know and haven't checked out your work yet, you have this.

[John Gabris]

Check the link in the show notes to see what.

[Adam Pally]

But it's a very. It's like your style is. Is kind of on unmistakable. Your characters, your. Your colors, your. You know what I mean? It's like. Was that something that you were already doing in notebooks?

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, I mean, it's just. I've always done that. I mean, I'll get in trouble all the time for drawing on anything, but, like, I just couldn't. I just, you know, school's boring, everything like that. So I'll be like. Like, yeah, I'm drawing.

[John Gabris]

And that's a very relatable parallel, by the way, to being a comedian. Yeah, school's boring. Let me flirt with the teacher. Let me make jokes.

[Adam Pally]

It's really more of an audience.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And, you know, same. It was like, me and my group of friends, you know, like, I would. I would actually charge people to draw as well, so I'd make a bit of money on the side. Oh, yeah. Like, they didn't want to do their homework, right? And I'd be like, I'll do it for, like, a pound. And they're like, sweet. Give me the dinner money. And they'll do things like that. And drill soccer players for people. It's weird because I was putting, like, the rubbish classes because, like, I didn't pay attention, right? So you're in the. With these dudes that, like. Like, shaving heads and scars on the faces and then full beards, like, 12, right? And, like, draw me a 40 players. I'm gonna stab you. You're like, all right, mate, no problem. Yeah, you're like the best friend. It's like a mini Prison, you're just like the guy who can do something.

[Adam Pally]

Schools are, I mean, they're, they are.

[John Gabris]

It is a prison survival like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And there's something very prison like about them. The walls, the like, like, you know the way that the floors are all. There's drains in the floor so you can sweep the blood into them.

[John Gabris]

You know when you watch like a prison show and the bell rings and they all kind of walk like this. The next thing to lunch, I'm like, this was. I was doing that seven times a day. Yeah, no, except with like my hormones going absolutely bananas.

[Matthew Henbo]

Why you can't stand up?

[John Gabris]

I'm like, dad, I need a pair of jeans. I cannot keep wearing sweatpants to school.

[Matthew Henbo]

We have to wear uniforms in England. You have to wear, you have to wear uniforms. So it's just like everyone's got these like really thin pants on. All the 15 year old boys just can't stand up from lunch because it is like got like some weird vibration. Gave you a raging heart on all.

[John Gabris]

The afternoon, you know, you can't stand up till you finish your beans, son.

[Adam Pally]

So how does tattooing start though? Like, you guys are all just like hanging around in a, in a basement, like huffing paint and then someone's like, draw that soccer player on me, man.

[John Gabris]

Matthew's a bit of an artist, mate, you know.

[Matthew Henbo]

Hey, Matthew, I didn't, you know what, I went after school, went to art school and I was like, with all, you know, doing all my drawings and stuff, and I didn't really know where.

[Adam Pally]

You were gonna go, what I was gonna do.

[Matthew Henbo]

And I started getting tattooed at that point and I was like, ah, this is seems that something I can do. Yeah, you have to draw and make money and you know, you meet people, it's cool, you know. So then I just proceeded and trying to get. You have to get an apprenticeship, right? Well, most people get an apprenticeship, which is. You go. And like, I love that.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, it's so crazy that there's still an industry. No, still an industry with apprenticeships. Like, it's like. Yeah, there's something so cool about that.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, it is, is. It's really cool and it's really funny and like, you know, you are the bottom again, like the thing. But you know, I was 29 when I did that. So I've gone through school, worked in like a call center. That was horrible. I'll tell you more about that.

[Adam Pally]

Like, you worked in a call center.

[Matthew Henbo]

Worst job. It's like, that is the worst job.

[Adam Pally]

Were you making calls or Receiving.

[Matthew Henbo]

Receiving them. And I was working for BlackBerry support. So every angry person, oh, that's a hell job.

[Adam Pally]

It's like when your phone breaks, that's energy. That's. That's airplane energy.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That's like my. My flight's canceled.

[John Gabris]

People would be ringing up 1-877-KAREN.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, there things like, to me, it's like three things that I don't want to be involved with customers anywhere. Cell phone breaking, airport shenanigans. And the vet. Oh, yeah, is the vet. People. People lose their minds.

[John Gabris]

The vet is crazy. The vet will have. Will look you in the eye and go like, hey, for 700 bucks, I can keep your dog alive for a couple months.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

How do you feel about that?

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Make that choice right now. And then that dog's looking at you.

[Adam Pally]

Or you're sitting, hearing that.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And the person there.

[Matthew Henbo]

Last time I was in the vets, there's just the cats getting the toes clipped or whatever.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, my God.

[Matthew Henbo]

The claws do get in checkup, but there's like a. Outside, there was a full animal emergency. It just like beep, beep. I heard the heart, like mono going. And people rush it. And then it's like someone going like, full on platoon on the knees, screaming. You know, the end scene. And me and my wife was like, oh, no.

[John Gabris]

And you're just there to get a check. Get your cat.

[Matthew Henbo]

I'm trying to get the cat from under the sofa going, come on, pigeon.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, come on.

[Matthew Henbo]

Like, there's like death and like just horrific scenes on the outside.

[John Gabris]

That vet smoking a cigarette outside. We lost another German shepherd.

[Matthew Henbo]

Furious.

[Adam Pally]

The German shepherd's family is out there.

[John Gabris]

They're all, oh, that's very sad.

[Matthew Henbo]

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[John Gabris]

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[Adam Pally]

So, so you start tattooing in art school and like, but, but what's cool to me about it is like you, you, you don't just go, I'm a tattoo artist. You're like, oh, this is a way to get my art out on people.

[Matthew Henbo]

Totally.

[John Gabris]

You said something last night that I really liked and I've been like batting.

[Matthew Henbo]

It around in my head.

[John Gabris]

It's like, people are like, tattoos are so permanent. But then you mentioned it's the art that dies with the canvas.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, totally. It's like impermanent. It's really permanent for the person, I guess because they have it on The.

[John Gabris]

For the rest of my life. But on the grand scheme of things, it's not like. It's not. Someone's not gonna peel this off and.

[Matthew Henbo]

Put this up, though. In certain. They do sometimes save people's skin when they have full body skills.

[Adam Pally]

Suits, really?

[Matthew Henbo]

And they have them on the wall.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You go to museums and say it's. It's insane.

[Adam Pally]

Whoa.

[John Gabris]

That's crazy.

[Adam Pally]

You, like, put, like, jelly rolls body.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

It would be so funny to see, like, my full body tattooed and, like, the skin has, like, my little dick and I'm like, from heaven. I'm like, we couldn't.

[Matthew Henbo]

We couldn't just.

[John Gabris]

We couldn't knock that part up. Like, why is my. Gotta have my lip, my husk.

[Matthew Henbo]

Everything's gotta be to scale.

[John Gabris]

We couldn't fuck with this a little bit in post. Ann, can we fix this?

[Matthew Henbo]

Why is that? Why is he going air there? So. No.

[John Gabris]

And you see here, this female had the dice tattoo on her back shoulder. It's like, I'm pretty sure that was my buddy Gabris. Well, his looks small.

[Adam Pally]

So. All right, so you're. You're tattooing in Manchester.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, that's what. So actually Liverpool and Manchester in between were inside.

[Adam Pally]

Which brother? Back to Oasis real quick. Which brother are you? You like? Which one do you like better? It's. To me, it's fairly obvious, but I feel like it's not, so.

[Matthew Henbo]

I think I love Liam.

[Adam Pally]

Me too.

[Matthew Henbo]

Because I love, like, I love his honesty.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

I think we don't give a. I.

[Adam Pally]

Just think Liam's more, actually, in a lot of ways, the more, like, normal one, the more like. Yeah, normal, dealable one. Like, Noel seems to be one of those guys that could, like, fly off the handle at any second.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Liam's nuts, but, like, uncomplicated.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Which makes him, like, kind of safer.

[Matthew Henbo]

I think he's immense, though. Like, I think he's, like, tested. Like, he's like a mental mentor.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Like, he's like a list of British people in mention. He's in it.

[Adam Pally]

Why is there.

[John Gabris]

Well, British mentor is on the mention.

[Matthew Henbo]

Do you like sausage rolls? Yes. You're in.

[Adam Pally]

He's a genius.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah. Read some ways it mentor. Could be.

[Adam Pally]

He's a genius.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Well, I think. I think Liam's cooler too. Like, Liam's parkas.

[Matthew Henbo]

Well, that's a definite northern thing. He's like anorax. I was going to wear one today, but Jen was like, like, pipe down a little bit. Put this pink thing on. She's like, yeah, you're going to, like, cause like, riots everywhere you go, throw a new one. So I was like, I might wear this. She's like, it's a bit much, you.

[Adam Pally]

Know, I love a parka.

[Matthew Henbo]

Oh, I do.

[Adam Pally]

A hooligan look is. Is the best.

[Matthew Henbo]

Well, it's also like, really, like, it just meets every, you know, weather it does.

[John Gabris]

You know, if it rains, you're fine. If it snows, you're fine.

[Matthew Henbo]

If it's a bit hot, you just unzip it a little bit. It's cool, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's a. I feel like people. People aren't doing parkers as much anymore.

[John Gabris]

That is, by the way, one of the most northern England should ever. If it gets hot, you unzip it. Know I be dripping sweat. Brits like, sweat pouring down the face. Like, it's fine, mate. You know, like, I'm good.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's like, you know, if it gets a little bit of somewhere I'm from, everyone's got the shirt off. Like walking around with can of Stella immediately. Immediately shirts off kind of Stella. You can smell like burnt sausages all the way down the street.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's crazy how. How a nice day in England will end the day like the. Like, you'll go to work around. It'll be raining around 1, 2 in the afternoon. The sun will slightly peak out, will see that from an office window and blow a horn and be like, yeah.

[John Gabris]

You'Ll see, like, it's time to get on the piss. And everyone just like, sides come off, the pubs fill.

[Adam Pally]

Everyone's smoking outside, buying cocaine.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's like, the good thing is, well, Fenal that made it to England yet. So everyone loves cocaine.

[Adam Pally]

Cocaine is like water.

[Matthew Henbo]

Call it nose beers. That's what they call.

[Adam Pally]

People love cocaine.

[Matthew Henbo]

They love it. English people love drugs in general because they're just like, this is shit. And it's off my fucking mind, right, for three days and then I can go back to work, you know?

[Adam Pally]

So do you think there's like a general, like, British depression or a British malaise or like a British view of the world that's like, we're all fucked?

[Matthew Henbo]

I think they're just really real about, like, the human condition, who they are. They're like, oh, this is shit, but everyone's gotta do it, so just get on with it.

[Adam Pally]

Right, Right.

[Matthew Henbo]

Well, you know, act. I. I don't always advocate to that, you know, I like living here. And a lot of people take care of the mind a little bit more, you know, English people are, well, better.

[Adam Pally]

Get on with it.

[John Gabris]

It's like, you know, it's like, do you have any time for introspection or. No, no, no, let's go.

[Matthew Henbo]

And then that's why there is, like, literally, like, at the weekend, they're like, you know, they're already like, Thursday. They're already on the piss a little bit.

[John Gabris]

Right. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, by. By. We used to call it Terrible Tuesday because on Tuesday, you know, you're crying at, like, a Geico commercial, right. Because you have the shakes and you're the little lizard. Oh, don't make me cry.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Everything hits you.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's his accent from why is he an English lizard?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Someone made that choice.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah. And, you know, you're just like. And then you're like, I'm never doing that again. I'm never doing drugs again. I'm never drinking again. This is it. And then by Wednesday, like, I'm fucking. I'm getting banged on it, you know? Yeah, I'm on it. I'm ready to go. And it's like, all it takes is your mates, like, raise eyebrows, like, a little bit, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, fancy beers, like, you know, we're never going, you know. It's not one beer, is it? You know?

[Adam Pally]

No, it's a bear bag.

[John Gabris]

Well, when I. When I was in England, the one thing I was like, oh, this cascal is weird. Why do you guys have this? And someone's like, just try a pint. They gave me a pint. I'm like, whoa, that's like, flat and room temperature. Wow. I could really.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Watch the British people go like, do you see why we like it? I'm like, oh, yeah. There's no slowing you down. You've invented a beer that's worse, but it goes down faster. I'm like, that is some interesting innovation in my book, where it's like, we figured out a way to drink them.

[Adam Pally]

Faster and the temperatures hurting the cold.

[John Gabris]

The cold makes it slower.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all about just getting hammered. Right. On massive volume, you know, Like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. We ask all our guests this, but you're. You're a little older now. You're living in New York. You are. You are multicultural.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

What? You laughed when you said, well, England. And it's like, you.

[John Gabris]

That's why, like, when we were just saying to white people, you're multicultural, it's like, it is you. It makes sense if you did.

[Matthew Henbo]

Right? Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

It's like you're from two places.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

But what are you doing now to kind of stay Alive. Like, I saw you throw a ginger shot back. Like, what. What. What's your. What's your reg.

[Matthew Henbo]

I do. Yeah, I do, you know, make sure. My wife, luckily, is really, like, jacked. So Jen's, like, really into, like, fitness, so it helps, you know.

[John Gabris]

What the f are we talking to you for, Jen?

[Matthew Henbo]

Ball fucking. She'll be bench pressing you before we leave.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, okay. What is she. What is Jen?

[John Gabris]

I'd like to meet your wife. Respectfully, I'd love to meet her.

[Matthew Henbo]

That's fine.

[Adam Pally]

She's.

[Matthew Henbo]

She's down for it.

[Adam Pally]

What is Jimbo. What does Jimbo work at? What's her word?

[Matthew Henbo]

She's like weights. Really? All weights?

[Adam Pally]

I.

[Matthew Henbo]

We do both. So basically, I used to do F45, you know, like, yeah, of course, Mark Wahlberg. So I used to do all that. How.

[Adam Pally]

I've never taken an F45 class. Is it like. What's the. What's the hook of it?

[Matthew Henbo]

It's just that it's really good because it's every part of your body and it's like brutal circuit training. It's kind of like CrossFit, but not the bro version, if that makes sense. You with a group of people, all different sizes, and everyone. Everyone's going at their own pace and you get. It's really.

[John Gabris]

It's like station based.

[Matthew Henbo]

Like, it's really. It is really odd.

[John Gabris]

But the 45 is referenced to. It's a 45 minute workout.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah. And it's good in and out. And you blasted by the end of it.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Matthew Henbo]

Plus, you know, when you're busy and you've got a busy job, whatever, you can go. I love a class.

[Adam Pally]

I love a class, guys.

[John Gabris]

I'm less of a class dude, but he's inspired.

[Adam Pally]

I'm into classes, yet I love a class. Have you done Rumble?

[Matthew Henbo]

I have not, but I know it's meant to be really good.

[Adam Pally]

I like Rumble. Yeah, there's something about, you know, boxing. Like, you just throwing punches is like, like. And you're in the dark and. And no one in the dark room. It's. Yeah, it's like a dark room.

[John Gabris]

And so throwing punches in the dark.

[Adam Pally]

You got a mosh pit. Yeah, it's like a death tones, but, like. No, you can. You can see your bag. Like, your station is lit up, but, like, you're not really clocking around and. And you're just.

[John Gabris]

It let you go a little bit more. Like, it's just me in the bag.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly. Just the idea that you're just like wailing on a bag. For 40 minutes. It really, like when I come out of there, I'm like a little bit.

[Matthew Henbo]

Lighter, you know, I, I, I love it. I love working out three or four times a week. My buddy Tatier as well, we go to the gym Vital, the climbing gym.

[John Gabris]

Oh, I just, I just joined. Not because I'm, I'm staying in Greenpoint this month too. I joined Vibe right down the street from your shop.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, you should come and do a workout in Vital one day.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Matthew Henbo]

I just do. Like, we, me and Mike, we do the same thing. Weights. We do batch, you know, standard.

[John Gabris]

Like, they call that the bro split.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, we do the bro split, you know?

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Although, like, we're not, we look like twins, you know, like, he's like tall and with a long neck and I'm a short potato. I try really hard to stay chubby. Like, inside of me, there's a much fatter man dying to get out out all the time.

[John Gabris]

Oh, we talk about this all the time. If I didn't exercise, God only knows what I'd look like. This is what I look like with constant exercise.

[Matthew Henbo]

People don't believe me, honestly. You know, I ran the New York Marathon in 2021. You know, I like to run. I love running, actually.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And people like, I went to a wedding recently. My friend Jenna and a partner got married.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And, and we had a, it was a beautiful. And one of the guys like, you, you run marathons? I was like, yeah. He's like, yeah, I, I know, I know.

[Adam Pally]

Weird.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I, I, I Napata Sonoma half marathon. Like, it was very fucking beautiful. Run at mile nine, you get free rose.

[Matthew Henbo]

Oh, hell yeah.

[John Gabris]

We started the run and next to me was like another 300 pound plus guy. And I was like, hey, all right, let's do it for the big boys. And I put my fist up and he looked at me and then just turned again. I was like, oh, I can't even get the only other fat guy here.

[Matthew Henbo]

To be on my team.

[Adam Pally]

He's like, buddy, he's one of those.

[John Gabris]

Dudes who did not like, I guess, just not comfortable calling himself like a big boy. I have a few friends like that and you forget where you're like a couple of us chubby blokes, huh? What are you talking, talking about? Oh, you're fatter than me, man. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know your underwear folds over at the top too, buddy. You know, I mean, I gauge, I gauge it, I gauge.

[Adam Pally]

I'm tucked in, but it might just fold it Over.

[Matthew Henbo]

That's how I gauge my, like, chubbiness is like how many folds is in my elastic band, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Until my ass crack is completely out. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

These guys, the guys that pretend they're not, you're like, you're just lying to yourself. It's okay.

[John Gabris]

It's all right.

[Adam Pally]

I'd rather say, I'd rather be open about it in a way that's like. Yeah, I'm not ripped at all. I'm chubby. Like, I feel like you're getting more for your buck that way, you know.

[John Gabris]

But also it's like you're. You're doing the half marathon. You're doing the same thing as the six pack is for me.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's totally diet. That's the, the hardest thing. Like, I like to drink beer.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

No one has ever finished work then any God. Oh God, I'm desperate for a pint of vodka soda, Right? No, but maybe people do. I'm like, I want a fucking beer.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know.

[Adam Pally]

No, they just, they, they're desperate for the feeling of a vodka soda. Like the quick blast of like a altered cigarette.

[John Gabris]

The low carb quick blast of vodka soda does not hit like a fucking ice cold pussy.

[Matthew Henbo]

No, it doesn't. It's not. You drink it like a Viking at the wall.

[Adam Pally]

First beer when you get served. Like, I had one the other day at a Japanese restaurant that had a, that had a. Like it was draft. And then they dipped it in a. Like they, they cut the foam. They dipped it in a ice to like clean the excess. And they. And then they put it down and it was so cold. And I really think I finished like a 20oz beer in a second.

[John Gabris]

You know, Japanese guys, the Japanese restaurants have the beers figured out.

[Matthew Henbo]

Like, you know. No, my business partner's Japanese and they said really thing to me. He's like, we don't. He said, hembo. This is the thing about my culture. I was like, what? He goes, we don't make anything new. We just make it perfect. And I was like, oh yeah, that is true. Yeah, jeans.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Anything, you know, make you make it perfect. And I was like, and when you go to Japan, every beer is basically.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, they fucking like slice the foam off.

[Adam Pally]

You never get a bad beer. Even in the Japanese rest. You'd be hard, hard pressed to find a bad beer in a Japanese restaurant.

[John Gabris]

Beer is. I like to talk about beer for a second here because it really juxtaposes well with exercise or physical feats. Like, I played rugby for like years and the Post match beer union. Yeah. And I could, even for people who understand this, I could explain to you that in my early twenties, I was a seven, then I moved to an eight, then I was a five, and now I'm a one.

[Matthew Henbo]

Hell yeah.

[John Gabris]

That's the fatter you get, the lower your number goes in rugby because you're playing a prop or front rock.

[Matthew Henbo]

I was a winger. Excuse me. Exactly. Not anymore. Not anymore.

[John Gabris]

A winger is like this fastest guy on this.

[Adam Pally]

Well, yeah, he runs.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, he's the runner. I used to be like. I used to be rapid, you know, but then weight distributed hours, and I'm average, you know, like, it's like it bounces me out.

[John Gabris]

Hey, my whole life I've been called agile for my size.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, me all the time.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. They go, he's actually quite an athlete.

[Matthew Henbo]

I told Jenny the other day, we're having an argument about. I was like, I can jump up this box. She's like, there's no way. And I was like, you'd be shocked how far you can jump. So she's like, right, we're going to the gym next week.

[Adam Pally]

You're like a frog.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm like a frog. Look at them fat lumps.

[Adam Pally]

You're like a little frog. Check this out.

[John Gabris]

Your wife betting against you. All right, let's go.

[Matthew Henbo]

This is how we do this. She's like, do not be late tomorrow. I'm like, I won't be late. She's like, you can't be late. I'm like, listen, I know it's important. Not going to be late. And then she's like, she, like, plays games. Games me. I bet you a blowjob you can't get ready in five minutes. I'm like. And then she never gives it me. It's just a trick to get me.

[Adam Pally]

Out of the house. What a nice. Your marriage sounds great. We don't even joke about blowjob. It becomes too tense. It's like if she made a joke about a blowjob, be like, are you serious? Are you serious right now?

[John Gabris]

Look at the calendar. It's like nowhere near my birthday.

[Adam Pally]

Like, wait, if you're serious. If you're serious about this, then we need to change everything.

[John Gabris]

All right, let's call. Cancel all the plans.

[Adam Pally]

No, we got. We gotta find a babysitter.

[Matthew Henbo]

Okay, I have to tell you, I.

[Adam Pally]

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[John Gabris]

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[Adam Pally]

And there it was, that hologram trading card. One of the rarest. The last one I needed for my set.

[John Gabris]

Shiny like the designer handbag of my dreams. One of a kind. Ebay had it and now everyone's asking.

[Adam Pally]

Ooh, where'd you get your windshield wipers?

[Matthew Henbo]

Ebay has all the parts that fit my car. No more annoying, just beautiful.

[John Gabris]

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[Matthew Henbo]

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[Adam Pally]

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[John Gabris]

Do you run still?

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, yeah. In the winter I'll just do treadmill. So I just do it on the trip. But now, oh, it's running season. I'll get back out and yeah.

[John Gabris]

Do you get something more than just exercise out of the riding, you find? I find as I get older, I understand what people are talking about when they're like, I need it to clear my head.

[Matthew Henbo]

I like it. I like, I just get good ideas when I'm running. And also you just like, just like beep bop. Just talking to yourself about the world, you know, like, no, it really does nice. Like, you know, it's like.

[John Gabris]

That'S like my impression of a British guy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. British robot.

[John Gabris]

Danger Will Robinson.

[Adam Pally]

Are you able to get the information from the supercomputer? One second. Beep bop boop bop. Beep boop bop boop.

[John Gabris]

Thank you, Bond.

[Adam Pally]

I feel often like a simple man. Like, truly. I feel like a lot of times like I, I, I have the, the ability to think deeply but prefer to kind of live on a level of beep bop boop bop. And when you, when you go for a run, especially out of outside, inside, I feel, I feel like I'm, it's different. It's different. It's Too. Mentally.

[John Gabris]

It's more like survival also.

[Matthew Henbo]

You're looking at the machine.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. It's like, you look at the time, you're like. But when you're outside, that is a kind of a flow state you can get into where you're. You are just like, look at me.

[John Gabris]

Like, look at you.

[Adam Pally]

Look at the sky. Like, you got, like, all this kind of free space to think, you know?

[John Gabris]

Do you guys nod or give a little wave to someone else?

[Adam Pally]

Always.

[Matthew Henbo]

I'm always. You know, my favorite thing. Sorry. My favorite thing ever to do when you see another guy who's like, your size.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. Yes.

[Matthew Henbo]

Or. Or. Or a woman. Anyone who's like. You can tell.

[Adam Pally]

Don't do it to a woman.

[John Gabris]

They're not.

[Matthew Henbo]

No. You have these, like, you understanding and, you know, you see people judging.

[Adam Pally]

Way to go, thick queen.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, exactly.

[John Gabris]

Sorry. You finish that 5k, you can sit on my face. Pepper spray.

[Adam Pally]

Why would you say that?

[John Gabris]

I thought it would work in reverse.

[Matthew Henbo]

I've not tried that yet with Jen.

[John Gabris]

The realest. The real is I love to go like, hey, like that.

[Matthew Henbo]

Because it's so funny when you don't get anyone like, the machine and they run past you like, you're like. They look at you like you've got love handles. You don't deserve to be on this road.

[John Gabris]

Have you ever get in a car?

[Adam Pally]

Do you run in the heat?

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Do you take your shirt off?

[Matthew Henbo]

Dude, if I took the shirt off, it looks like someone's throwing a, like, trash bag of butter down the road.

[Adam Pally]

I started this year.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Because I was running, and it was. I was running out in the. In the Hamptons in Long island where everybody runs. It's like. And it's such a weird culture out there because there's no lane to do it. It's like, almost. There's something subconsciously obtrusive about it where it's like, cars have to go around. Cars go around me. You know what I mean? Like, I'm so important, and I look so good.

[John Gabris]

My taxes are so high here that cars.

[Adam Pally]

Cars have to go around me, you know? Anyway, we were out there, and I went for a run, and it was really, really scorching, and I took my shirt off, and I. And I was, like, feeling, like, good for you, Adam. Like, you know, this is outside your character. You know, my fucking belly's hitting my chin.

[John Gabris]

Well, being shirtless is one thing. Running shirtless.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. Even Anthony Kiedis in the under the bridge video is like, you know, loose skin.

[Matthew Henbo]

I know. I see some people, and I'm like, oh, yeah, you can do it, buddy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, you can definitely do it. Your nothing is moving on them. They're like, rock.

[Adam Pally]

That's pretty crazy. Yeah. But I just wanted to, like, feel what it was like, and I was, like, so psyched about it. And then I got to, like, the end of the block, and it was. It had one of those houses that had, like, a circular mirror for the.

[Matthew Henbo]

Cars, the reflection kind of thing.

[Adam Pally]

I swear to God, I looked like a pregnant pig that had been shot and was on its last breath. I was like. I had, like, six hits, like, up and down. I had, like, a scar in the middle from being like. Like when a cat gets neutered, you know? Like, I was like, what? It had put my shirt right back on. It was soaking wet. It was, like, hard to get in. I was like. I was like, never doing that again.

[John Gabris]

I. I fucking. I made the leap because I started running at the beach, and I'm like, I can't wear a shirt at the beach. And I am. I move a lot. My body moves. My belly bounces a lot.

[Adam Pally]

You look so good with your shirt off, and.

[John Gabris]

But I've gotten adjusted to it, and then I switch started this past summer walking my dog with my shirt off, like, just around the neighborhood. Now I'm just a fully a confident shirt, and I.

[Adam Pally]

That's where you got to go next.

[Matthew Henbo]

Once Mat comes around the front and hides my man boobs and. And love handles a bit more.

[John Gabris]

Well, we know. We know you can run with no bottoms on last night. We got to see Matthew's ass.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, we got to. What a privilege.

[John Gabris]

Fully tatted.

[Adam Pally]

We were talking about a. Was really a funny moment, cuz Gabris and I were talking of. Of, like, our brief tattoo right before we got tatted. We're talking about where it hurts the most. And Matthew's like, no, it hurts the most.

[Matthew Henbo]

Anus.

[Adam Pally]

Like, excuse me. Like, oh, yeah.

[John Gabris]

Butt cheeks must hurt. Yeah. Getting a tattoo on your butt cheeks. He pulls his pants down. His canvas like a full.

[Matthew Henbo]

That is truly painful.

[Adam Pally]

Maui over here.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's truly. There's just nothing like that pain. The bit of.

[Adam Pally]

How do you sit still when someone.

[Matthew Henbo]

Just do what you got? You have to, you know, do you hold handles? No, I just try and, like, put myself in really dark places, like, people were in the trenches. And you chose this title.

[Adam Pally]

Is that your go to?

[Matthew Henbo]

That's my go to. I have to go to, like, whenever I'm doing anything. When I was running the Marathon, Anything like that. When I'm training, you know, like you run the marathon, there's a guy like one leg hopping and you're like, get a grip. Yeah, no, that was super inspiring. You know, and you're having a little mini like, oh, I might stop in a minute. You know? Cause you're like, yeah.

[John Gabris]

And there's like a blind guy pushing. Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And it's like, you know, there's blind guys, they have like string tied to them and three runners around them telling them where to go. I'm like, this is the most inspiring thing. And I'm like having a little mini breakdown because I want. I've got an able bodied.

[John Gabris]

My knees hurt. Yeah, keep going.

[Matthew Henbo]

Hembo.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know. You know, that's like when I'm getting tattooed, I try and relax. I never drink coffee before I get tattooed ever. I need to be in the most sleepy state ever. That's smart. So I can kind of. Sometimes I will fall asleep, but then you do the thing and wake up, you're like, oh. And you're like.

[Adam Pally]

And the guy's like.

[Matthew Henbo]

He's like. He's like, hembo, you okay?

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I hope we were talking about that last night when you accidentally wake your yourself up bulldog style. Like on a plane where one snore gets you out of the sleep, where you're like, yeah. Looks at you and you're like.

[Matthew Henbo]

But the thing is like, grab the by the neck.

[Adam Pally]

Where is she? Like, Mr. Gabri, your.

[John Gabris]

Your.

[Adam Pally]

Your Crab rangoon. Crab rangoon.

[John Gabris]

Tiny snack fell out of your luggage. My not going. I'm trying to put my suitcase away. Crab raccoons. I'm falling out like constantly. Where's my Polynesian sauce?

[Matthew Henbo]

The movie is the style. Once you put the headphones on, you can't hear anything. You can't hear yourself.

[John Gabris]

That's.

[Matthew Henbo]

You're like just sucking in the world. And you're like. And no one.

[John Gabris]

I've definitely been on the subway and farted with my headphones and been like, well, I didn't hear that. And I see other people. I'm like, that was louder than I thought it was for sure. I thought I got it out quiet. I just see someone going, yeah, no, that's the. When you see like this. And I'm like, well, this next stop is mine. Regardless. I had that 21 minutes late to my meeting because I'm getting off the train that.

[Adam Pally]

I had that this morning when I was leaving this. I had to go to the bathroom. I had to leave through that door. To get to the bathroom. And I, I was like in that mode where I was like ready to go and I didn't think anyone was around. And right when I got to the door, the security guard was like, like, have a good one. Like, thinking I was leaving. And I reached for the door and just farted like so bad. Cuz I didn't think he was there. And then like, and he said it like right as I farted. And like, I was like, do I turn around? And like now it's out there. And I turned around, I was like, thank you. And he looked at me like, whoa, brave eye contact.

[Matthew Henbo]

Brave space br. It's like in, you know, if you're in an elevator with someone. I said last night, like, there's only two of you. And you farted like, yeah. No one wants to speak, but they know you've done it. You're like, sorry, buddy.

[John Gabris]

It didn't.

[Matthew Henbo]

I didn't want it to come out that way. When you're tattooing them, they sometimes do by accident. Most people. I have a client those days, like, give me a minute. And he just went and was like, he was like, you heard it, you know? You know, it's like bad when it's like that, you know, I was definitely.

[John Gabris]

When we went on the balcony to, when we were burning one, I was like, okay, get a couple of farts out now. Cuz like the second the pain starts or you start going, you get a.

[Matthew Henbo]

Bit relaxed and all your guts start doing things you're not used to thinking, oh no.

[John Gabris]

You know, like, hey, take your shirt off, lay down on this table and don't fart.

[Adam Pally]

Do you remember the first tattoo you, you ever gave?

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

What was it?

[Matthew Henbo]

Well, on myself, the first one, to me it was on myself. You left out yourself first.

[Adam Pally]

Right, right, right. That's part of it.

[Matthew Henbo]

And then the first one I ever gave was my best friend who the guy I lived with for 12 years. And he was lucky. He was like, dude, I'll get it. He just had a simple skull and crossbones on his, on his ankle. It's still there now.

[John Gabris]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Matthew Henbo]

And that was actually, that first one was fine. It was like the next hundred where I just was absolute. In sheer panic.

[Adam Pally]

Really.

[Matthew Henbo]

I do like a hundred tattoos before I was allowed to be a tattooer essentially.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's really.

[John Gabris]

So you're just scaring up 99 people who are like, I'd love in a tattoo from an apprent.

[Matthew Henbo]

Well, it's actually shocking how easy it is to You. But I'm an apprentice. I'll do free tattoos. And it's like flies around shit. They just come in. I'll get it. Like, there's, like, you can't afford a tattoo ever. And, like, anything you want, and you're like, okay. Or they pick something, and it's like, you know, you get. You pick up the machine. You're like, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And they're like, are you nervous because of the permanence of it, the pain?

[Matthew Henbo]

Like, what is you dealing with these, like, tools that, like, don't react like anything you ever held. Like, the machine I was using yesterday was a bit of a. A newer one, so it's silent and stuff.

[John Gabris]

But normally, I was so impressed with your gear yesterday.

[Adam Pally]

Like, his. His station is your whole. I love the. It's one of the few tattoo parlors that I get calm as I walk in.

[Matthew Henbo]

Like, you chill, you know, your vibes are great.

[John Gabris]

Your other art, a dude in the. Who is also there, was getting a full wraparound drag.

[Matthew Henbo]

When you guys left, he was still getting it, and he. He sat in that all the whole line done.

[Adam Pally]

Really?

[Matthew Henbo]

I think he's at, like, 11:30pm wow.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, he started, like, right at 6.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

This dude was getting the full wraparound.

[Adam Pally]

It's. It's wild to me, like that. And that is also a akin to your talent as well. And you're the person you are to put everybody at ease. But, like, that shop. Your shop is one of the coolest places to hang out.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, we all love hanging there.

[Adam Pally]

I love hanging out there. And usually you don't. You don't like to hang in a tattoo parlor. It's almost like being in a gun range or something, because there's that loud noises. There's the pressure of pain.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, it's like tattoo shots, even for me, even as a tattooer, sometimes are very intimidating.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, it doesn't matter who you are. You go and you're like, oh, God.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, we wanted to not have that. Like, that was all.

[John Gabris]

It certainly doesn't. It feels. It feels so. It was. I was so at ease going in there. And Adam and I, we both got tattoos together on the show we got. For your 40th birthday, when we hosted a travel show, we got tattoos at the same time. But last night. Night, we got tattoos at the same time that are also matching.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Which is the next level of friends. You have matching tattoos on anybody?

[Matthew Henbo]

I do. Yeah. I have a half dome, like, you know, from Yosemite on my ankle. Which actually. Dawn Wall. Yeah, we did it. We did it in Yosemite. Me and my friend Mike, who works at the shop. All the art next to me was Mike. He's another English guy.

[John Gabris]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Matthew Henbo]

And we've done, like, we traveled around America tattooing, and then we did some hikes, and you sent me. It was like. Like, let's just tattoo this on each other. Cool. So we're in this tent in Yosemite, and I had to. We had to put. I had to put his legs on me like this. And as soon as he did the first line, he just farted immediately. We've got a video. I'm not joking. I put a line in. He went. And he went, like, straight on me. Like, sorry, mate. Stunk as well. He was so. He just. And he was like, you know, straddling me.

[Adam Pally]

People do ask me a lot, like, where's your. Especially my watermelon, which is, like, my signature piece from you. It was the biggest piece for me. People like, where'd you get that? And when I say, oh, it's Matthew Henbo. There's, like, a certain. You know, there's a few guys in the industry, like, I was saying for, like, Dr. Wu or that, where people go, like, whoa. Like, what's that?

[Matthew Henbo]

Like.

[John Gabris]

You.

[Adam Pally]

And, you know, I think that that's. That's probably reaching, like, one of the highest peaks of tattoo tattooing, where, like, you're now doing. Your brand is now doing stuff with Dave's New York, and you're like. You're the creative director there, right?

[Matthew Henbo]

Like, kind of. Not. Not. Not yet. We're talking about doing that. We're like, ivan's gonna make some stuff for them, and they're like. Because, you know, they're starting their new label, and I was like, let me do it. I'll do it free. So we had chats. Yeah. I was like, I'll do it for free. And he's like, let me think about it. Like, they're doing. But we're. Right now, we're just doing a few clubs together. Yeah. We're doing collabs, and we're. And I'm also gonna help them with their. Like, do some graphic work for their books and, like, some. We went in and we went through some clothes the other day and stuff like that, and, dude, we really want. I just love working with those guys, and I love clothes and stuff, so it's nice to be able to, you know, through tattooing, you can branch out into things. Know you. You love. I don't see any. I don't see art as anything. It's all the same to me.

[John Gabris]

Right, Right.

[Adam Pally]

It's just another way to. For you to do what you do.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah. Yeah. I love, you know, same with music, same painting, anything or even creative writing. I love writing too.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, even if it's for myself.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, I was gonna say, I think that there's an animated show in.

[Matthew Henbo]

Your character I would love. Yeah. Yeah. I have got. Me, my friend have been working on something, but, you know, like, it's. It's like, it's like, you know, we get together now and again, we write something and we come away, but we've got. We have got a good idea.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I mean, Adam and I are in, like, year 11 of writing like that.

[Adam Pally]

We have 15 ideas.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's cool. And I don't know, it's just like creating a world is. Is dope. When I was a kid, that's all I wanted to do. Yeah. So, like, when you get to be an adult and you get to, like, do that, I think it's. It's super cool.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. We, Adam and I got matching dice last night.

[Adam Pally]

Hard 10 with the 7 showing.

[John Gabris]

With the 7 show. We got a 5 5, which is the bet we always make when we play crabs the hard way. We love the hard, hard 10. And so in order to commemorate our friendship and this podcast, we thought we'd get the matching tattoos. And now I just can't wait to go to Vegas and, like, bust it out.

[Adam Pally]

Dude. Mine is right above my.

[John Gabris]

I know you be rolling.

[Matthew Henbo]

You have to roll. You have to roll it up when you do it.

[Adam Pally]

You know, all I'm going to do is, is when I reach for a card is just have a short sleeve shirt on.

[Matthew Henbo]

Nice and fresh.

[Adam Pally]

Look at that dice up my sleeve. Oh, dude, yours looks great.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

How do yours heal so good? Like, because I've been tattooed by so many different artists, and you are famous in the tattoo world for color.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And yet every time I think I have three or four hand bows.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

They heal better than any other tattoo I've ever had. They. It's like. And. And last.

[John Gabris]

That one hurt less than ever before. And I can't believe I peeled the new skin off in the shower, by the way. An absolute feat of flexibility. I could not believe I got.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, I should have told you. I should have left, like, a peel line for you, like, you know, like a backpack.

[Adam Pally]

But then again, as we were leaving, you know, we were talking about other tattoo artists, other tattoos I'm like, do.

[John Gabris]

I need to get aquaphor?

[Adam Pally]

And you're like, no, just put the second skin on, wash it, and then go.

[John Gabris]

But.

[Matthew Henbo]

But what?

[Adam Pally]

So, like, how did you develop that? That must be a skill specific to you.

[John Gabris]

Right?

[Matthew Henbo]

Honestly, it's just maybe attention to detail a little bit. And, like, the way I want to. The way I feel, like, when I'm painting, like, I do have quite a loose style. Anyway. Anyway. Like, I like to draw free. I don't want to have too much structure. I don't personally like that.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Matthew Henbo]

I mean, I can draw really technical if I have to, but, like, everything I want to do is meant to be fun. It's going to be, like, immediate. Like, I love it when I just draw on people. So then it just looks that way, you know, it's really. It's like you were saying, like, improv. It's like that moment you can't replicate once it's done, it's like, been and gone.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know, and you're.

[Adam Pally]

You're doing. You're having that moment. Right. Because the stakes are so high.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Every time you do a stroke, it's like that moment is happening.

[Matthew Henbo]

Totally. And. And with the packing, the color, learning how to. I just learned how to do it off some really good tattooers and try to, like, you know, get better from that, really. And it's. I don't know. Maybe. I don't. I'm stoked that you said that because that's, you know, good for me there.

[Adam Pally]

Well, you know, it's. It's. It's true, you know, Like, I. I have other color stuff and other tattoos, and, you know, it just depends on the studio you go to the artist. But, like, some people are rough and some people are not. And, like, every.

[John Gabris]

Everything. I can't believe how good I feel. I'm gonna wait a couple more days for sauna, and that's about. That's, like, the only extent you have.

[Matthew Henbo]

To wait a week.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You gotta wait a week.

[Adam Pally]

Otherwise.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, yeah. That's the only rule, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabris]

You don't want to be sweating out colors.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, yeah. Dripping. It's like the tire slides off your back.

[John Gabris]

You know, I sauna last night, ends up here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I saw it last night. Now my tattoo is on my dick. But it's fine. It's fun.

[John Gabris]

I mean, I. Last night was one of those moments where we were. We had our predetermined tattoo, but then I'm looking around, seeing all handbow styles, and I'm like, well, I got to get one more.

[Matthew Henbo]

And that's the purely. That's the long game, you know? I mean, that's what we. Well, that's why we keep on the wall. You know, you're sitting there getting a tattoo, and you're looking at the other drawing. You're like, you know what? I could probably live with this monster. That's weird. I don't know what it is. It's cool. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I've been wanting to get a tattoo to commemorate Arthur's passing, and his Boston terrier face is so crazy. And seeing all your critter faces, I'm like, oh, you can do a representation, like a dragon of Arthur. And I was like, that is what I'm doing next. So, yeah, I'll be. I'll be back in next month.

[Adam Pally]

You got to make your appointment.

[John Gabris]

I'm going to. I follow you on Instagram as of last night on the Uber ride out of your.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, sorry, Pop up.

[Adam Pally]

I was like, oh, that's why this one's a little off over here, because one of my dice is on a six.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

He's looking at your phone. Could. You know what Next one I want to get from you is an off brand. Knuckles.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah. Oh, that be dope.

[John Gabris]

Oh, that's a really fun idea. Like a bootleg.

[Adam Pally]

Like a bootleg.

[Matthew Henbo]

That be amazing. I'm all about that.

[Adam Pally]

Let's do that. Let's start thinking of that.

[Matthew Henbo]

We could totally.

[Adam Pally]

I just got to find some space for it.

[Matthew Henbo]

Butt cheeks are, you know, moving really fast.

[Adam Pally]

You know, I need sonic for that. I got.

[John Gabris]

I got the perfect place for the ring. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Henbo.

[John Gabris]

We.

[Adam Pally]

We. We always open it up to plugs, but I, I. You have so many things that I. I would rather do it in a way where you kind of take us through all your different areas of art and as. As our, like, plug section.

[Matthew Henbo]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

So we so obviously tattooing.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Good luck, nyc.

[Adam Pally]

Good luck, nyc.

[Matthew Henbo]

That we have, like, absolutely really amazing, amazing tattooers. Like, really good people. Really? We have, like, 10, 11 tattoos at the moment. Everyone's exceptional tattooers. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

It's also the classiest. To me, it's like if you're. If you. If you're in New York and you're, like, in tattoo culture, you want to get tattooed and you. You want to go to. To the coolest place.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah. On the second floor, we have a rooftop.

[John Gabris]

I was just about to say the second floor of it all, the rooftop. But no walker buys. Like, that's what's important is no one going like, oh, and you got your shirt. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Old shot was a. Was like street level, so. And it was like, no windows.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

So to have Kiku and myself, when we looked for this spot, it was like the first place you found as well, really. And it had all the, you know, sockets around the side immediately.

[Adam Pally]

And you knew. You're like, we have power.

[Matthew Henbo]

Amazing. We have power. The lights are in.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And it's like, you're not going to get a better deal.

[Adam Pally]

And the. The root. I really love the roof access, like, just being able. Because you spend so much time in a tattoo parlor waiting, you know, it's like.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, you get. You get there. You have to sign in, then you wait in for a minute to get the design right.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[John Gabris]

You're taking a break after like an hour of.

[Adam Pally]

And just to be able to sit in that little breakfast nook area and then walk outside, take a phone call.

[Matthew Henbo]

Like, it totally.

[John Gabris]

And now you're. You're also combining my love of Long island and. And you're working with some Long island musician legends.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Vinnie, we just. We started a band called Night Sports and Just a group of friends, you know, But I'm lucky enough that most of the band are in really good. They're from really, really good bands of excellent musicians from the movie Life and Incendiary and Angel Dust and things like that. All these, like, great hardcore bands. And then we just make God together. Make pop. Right? The rock and roll, pop music.

[John Gabris]

You know, the movie Life is sort of like legendary on Long island because I grew up. I grew up there in the 80s and 90s and all. All my white friends were into like, hardcore music, ska, punk and movie. Life was homegrown and like, you would go see them in a basement in Rockville center or something.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

And they just made it. I think they're like, you know, they got. They made it. They made it big, you know, and it's like amazing. I think, you know, when everyone's from town who does it, it's like it almost gives you a window and a way out. And they're just legends and. Yeah. And also Vinnie is just the nicest guy and he's also a Liverpool soccer fan like me. Football. Football. Football's a big football. I still play soccer now, actually. I play on Wednesdays.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Really? And like in adult league with. Do you have refs?

[John Gabris]

No, it's kidsley. I love it.

[Matthew Henbo]

I'm like Shaq.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

Demolishing people knee high. It's really good. Really good for my ego.

[Adam Pally]

Put your glasses away.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, we're letting grown ups play kids sports now.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, I play. I play. Yeah, we have refs. That's league in. In. In Brooklyn.

[Adam Pally]

That's good. Social.

[John Gabris]

That's how you stay social. That's how you. Yeah, the social part, the physical fitness part, like all that matters.

[Matthew Henbo]

I also saw a video of me doing it and I was like, oh, my. I didn't know my belly looked like that. In my head, it doesn't look like that. You know, And I saw it was.

[John Gabris]

Like, mess you in your head, you're messing with. And then you look at it. You're messy with a Y.

[Adam Pally]

Wait till you see that stomach in a circular mirror because it shrinks you down.

[Matthew Henbo]

I thought that's what it looked like. I thought all mirrors are circular.

[John Gabris]

No, no, I'm circular. You're a circle. Yeah.

[Matthew Henbo]

You know when you go to try someone in, like, somewhere and they have like the triple threat mirrors? You're like, oh, my God, is that what I look like from that weird three quarter?

[Adam Pally]

I can't go into Nordstrom.

[John Gabris]

The worst mirror is hotel mirror that's in front of the shot. When you open the shower and you just see your body on like. And you're like, that's what I look like.

[Adam Pally]

I hate that you just hope the fog is deep when you get out.

[Matthew Henbo]

You're like, I don't. Why do hotels do that? They put that mirror and then they make all bathrooms clear with glass.

[Adam Pally]

That's a new thing. That's.

[Matthew Henbo]

I hate that you go on a date. Imagine going on a first date and you're like, I'm just going to, you.

[John Gabris]

Know, soap up my pants in front of you.

[Matthew Henbo]

I'm just going to my pants while you lay in bed getting ready.

[Adam Pally]

Don't look at me.

[Matthew Henbo]

It's like an echoey chamber.

[John Gabris]

You know, the shower's running, they can see you're not in there.

[Adam Pally]

Your knees. So what's next for you, Hembo?

[Matthew Henbo]

Next thing I'm doing is I'm gonna go and work with the Philadelphia walls project. I'm gonna teach some kids cool about tattooing about art. And then hopefully we get to paint a wall in the summer. Oh, fun. And that's gonna be there forever. They pick walls and I get to do mural there.

[John Gabris]

Oh, cool. Collabing with the kids.

[Matthew Henbo]

Collab with the kids. And it's like, you know. Yeah, it's super stoked. I get to collab with the kids and do something really cool with them.

[John Gabris]

Oh, that's Awesome. I was saying thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Thank you so much for tattooing us and then hanging out with us 12 hours later.

[Adam Pally]

The three of us have been together for 12 hours in a row, which.

[John Gabris]

Is not uncommon for you and I.

[Adam Pally]

No, no.

[John Gabris]

Probably a little more than a traditional tattoo recipient.

[Adam Pally]

I would, I would urge you when you get back to the shop today to. To maybe have one of your partners throw maybe a Dyson for.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, yeah. I'm already put the stencil on my cheese on the underneath.

[Adam Pally]

It would be great if we did it.

[Matthew Henbo]

Well done, dude.

[Adam Pally]

Amazing. Amazing. Thank you.

[Matthew Henbo]

Thanks.

[John Gabris]

Pleasure.

[Matthew Henbo]

Thank you.

[Adam Pally]

It was a blast. That was awesome.

[John Gabris]

Oh, man, I love.

[Adam Pally]

I, I, I. He's one of my favorite dudes in.

[John Gabris]

I'm so glad you introduced me to him. Every conversation, every time we talk for five more minutes, we realize how much we have in me in this.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, you guys were literally the. No wonder I like him so much. He's the British version of you.

[John Gabris]

You found. I found the more marketable skill set.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. With something that can actually help me.

[John Gabris]

You're like, I can talk into microphones. I don't need another guy who knows. Louder.

[Adam Pally]

Could someone draw on me?

[John Gabris]

I could just give you the S for my notebook.

[Adam Pally]

It looks like the dollar.

[John Gabris]

Wait, that's what I should get on my butt cheek.

[Adam Pally]

The. That s. Oh, I thought you were going to get the, the, the actual font. That notebook on your ass.

[John Gabris]

I'm gonna get Gosling saying the Notebook question mark.

[Adam Pally]

Do they ever mention the actual notebook in the Notebook?

[John Gabris]

I do believe so.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. They say, like, there's a moment.

[John Gabris]

Philip Sparks, the Notebook, please.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, they talk about the book that it's based on. Oh, that's different than what I thought. I gotta see it again.

[John Gabris]

Oh, man, that movie makes me cry.

[Adam Pally]

Every time I lose it. Mostly because I'm like, Gosling was so good looking, 40 pounds heavier.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I know. Keep it on.

[Adam Pally]

Keep.

[John Gabris]

Stay meaty.

[Adam Pally]

I don't, I don't know if I like twink Gosling. I think I like beefy guys.

[John Gabris]

I don't know if I like twink Gosling. I like beefy. Go weird ass singer songwriter.

[Adam Pally]

Can we lay that down again? We'll use that as the temp lyric and then we'll come up with something better.

[John Gabris]

I love the harmony, but like, the.

[Adam Pally]

Harmony is working, you know, Like Eleanor Rigby, you know? Well, but this is what I'm trying to say.

[John Gabris]

Gosling needs to be a little chunky to get me feeling a little Funky.

[Adam Pally]

Sorry to get in in Gosling centric.

[John Gabris]

We don't have like, he might sue us. Yeah, it's like maybe no one here knows him.

[Adam Pally]

Why don't we just change it to a blonde man?

[John Gabris]

A blonde man looking chunky. Make me feeling funky.

[Adam Pally]

I like this. This is good. Blonde man look like Ryan Gosling.

[John Gabris]

In the Gosling we are flies in.

[Adam Pally]

The Gosling we are Notebook. It blows my mind.

[John Gabris]

Welcome back to Wayne Brady's podcast, starring Adam and Gabriel.

[Adam Pally]

Matthew Henbo did not deserve this outro.

[John Gabris]

No, he deserves much better. But we will just continue to bring him business both via our bodies and hopefully some listeners in the New York area.

[Adam Pally]

For sure.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Well, until then, stay live.

[John Gabris]

You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pali, a Smartless Media production in association with Sirius xm.

[Adam Pally]

Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music.

[John Gabris]

Associate producer and video producer is Matty McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano.

[Adam Pally]

Assistant engineer, Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[John Gabris]

Executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh, me. Adam Pally. Ooh, you. Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminsky. Do us a favor, Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Adam Pally]

Just so everyone knows, we do not have a discord.

[John Gabris]

Don't reach out to us.

[Adam Pally]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.

[Matthew Henbo]

Plants are fucking awesome.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, we have a plant. This is actually an actor.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, that's an AI plant.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

What was his name?

[John Gabris]

Donnie.

[Adam Pally]

Donnie. We. Yeah, he's. He's a good kid. Don't look, don't get in a conversation with him. Sh your ear out.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah, he's anti vaxxer.

[Adam Pally]

Apparently. We. We got him because he was one of the January six riders.

[Matthew Henbo]

Yeah, he's just been released.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, well, he was in Pelosi's office. No one could get him out. The. The guy with the wolf hat brought him in there, sat him down, and then Donnie was stuff.

[John Gabris]

Jacob Angelus, the Qanon shaman.

[Adam Pally]

You know what? On my bootleg knuckles, could you put the wolf hat. Could he be carrying the podium?

[Matthew Henbo]

Smart.

[John Gabris]

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