
On this episode of Staying Alive, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally sit down with their good friend, actor, comedian, and personal trainer Ryan Stanger, to talk about the benefits of hyperbaric chambers, barrel saunas vs infrared, what to look for when choosing a trainer, and Stanger really tries to make his Three Pigs metaphor work. Plus, Gabrus wants a Gym Tycoon video game, and Pally owns OK Computer on vinyl. Follow Ryan @stonestanger on Insta Find The Action Boyz’ Patreon at ActionBoyz.biz Check out Staying Alive merch at siriusxmstore.com/stayingalive This episode was recorded February 6, 2025 at The Comedy Store in Los Angeles Special thanks to Lee Nason and Brian Baldinger Staying Alive is produced by Devon Torrey Bryant and Anne Harris Engineered and edited by Devon Torrey Bryant, who also wrote the music Associate producer and video editor is Maddie McCann Executive produced by Jon Gabrus, Adam Pally, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Bernie Kaminski, and Rich Korso...
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Adam Pally
Smart. Bless me.
John Gabris
I love this tracksuit and this, the, the, the sneakers are amazing. And it's like certainly a intentional throwback kind of vibe.
Adam Pally
This is my dad's.
Ryan Stanger
Really?
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah.
Ryan Stanger
And that's your DeLorean that you just got out of.
Adam Pally
Yeah, that was Doc Brown's though.
John Gabris
Oh, really? So what. Where did you come from? Welcome to another episode of Staying Alive. I am Adam Pally.
Ryan Stanger
And I'm John Gabris.
John Gabris
And we're still live.
Ryan Stanger
Turns out, despite your best efforts, listeners, we are still alive.
John Gabris
Can't catch me.
Ryan Stanger
That sniper did hit me, but not in the head.
Adam Pally
Gray's my ear.
John Gabris
Fight. Have an awesome guest today.
Ryan Stanger
Oh, yeah, we have my co host from the action boys and a, and a fitness podcaster himself. Personal trainer, comedian all around average gray haired hunk.
John Gabris
He is a hunk. He, he had. His look is amazing. He, he, he, he really does look like he came out of a 1980s movie.
Ryan Stanger
Yes, he does look like the guy who is, is buying out your rec center to turn it into a, an oil field.
John Gabris
Yeah, exactly. He's got a cool vibe and he trained the stars. He's trained in the stars, right?
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, he's a true personal trainer. So he's got the experience. And he has nothing to sell, which is interesting to have on for a fitness person. He doesn't have a method or a pill that he's.
John Gabris
I prefer that because there is, you know, a large part of this industry, as we're learning is like, you know, somewhat like snake oil salesman. You know what I mean? It's like I've got nothing to sell but my, you know, opinion on how to make you healthy.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah.
John Gabris
Maybe fact or fiction.
Ryan Stanger
You know, don't record that. Don't splice that in with our ad reads that are later on in this episode because everyone's got to get their bag.
John Gabris
And then we read an ad for him.
Ryan Stanger
We sell actual snake oil. It's supposed to be good.
John Gabris
Sasha Baron Cones snake oil.
Ryan Stanger
All right, let's talk to Ryan Stanger. Ryan Stanger, so stoked to have you here with us today. Weird, because you co host a podcast with me.
Adam Pally
Yeah. You're gonna have to pretend like you haven't heard somebody stuff or. I don't know.
Ryan Stanger
We haven't done six hours a week for eight years, but we're so stoked to have you. You're our first guest that is from both the comedy world and the fitness world, officially. Yeah, yeah. And no pressure. He might not be funny or informative at all in this episode.
Adam Pally
No, it's going to be pretty light on the information and light on the jokes, but I think you guys will.
John Gabris
See that's always the jack of all trades. Master of none.
Ryan Stanger
Like they say, like a TV vcr combo. The TV's not great, and the VCR ain't great, either.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
But, hey, at least it's in one package.
Adam Pally
This might go in the dumpster, but it's good practice for you guys.
Ryan Stanger
It's like running with a weighted vest on.
John Gabris
Nice for us to get some reps, but wait.
Ryan Stanger
This fit is tremendous. And I know it's. I've heard legends of this, because this was. You saw this hanging in your dad's closet?
Adam Pally
No, no, no, no. This was. My dad showed up one day, not a brand guy at all. And I grew up, you know, in the 90s, like a total brand kid. I didn't have any of them, but I wanted.
John Gabris
Where did you grow up?
Adam Pally
Just in Northern California. So.
John Gabris
Okay. But not Marin, like, San Mateo.
Adam Pally
No, it was more Sacramento.
Ryan Stanger
Sacramento city, baby.
Adam Pally
Nothing going on.
John Gabris
Nothing going on. Ladybird.
Adam Pally
Yeah. And that made it look good.
John Gabris
Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Pally
But the old man showed up one day with this on after we'd been denied Jordans any of this stuff. And we were like, what the. He wore it one time.
Ryan Stanger
Time.
Adam Pally
And then later, I add, like. Like, maybe two years ago. I said, what happened to that flight suit? And he was like, hold on. And then he sent me a picture of it. He's like, I got it. I wore it one time. He sent it out to me.
John Gabris
You do look like someone could, like, Forest Gump you into the picture of the dream team standing along as, like.
Ryan Stanger
The trainer Christian Laitner's dad.
Adam Pally
I'm not dumb enough to be gumped.
John Gabris
Well, I am. I'm doing a podc, pally.
Adam Pally
I gotta say. There was one show, like, an awards show, and you presented at it, and there was something they did with, like, puppies in it, and you did a bit on the awards show, and I was so nervous for you. I'm like, he's gonna get in trouble. Like, you were just roasting the whole awards show. You're like, this is dumb. Pete is gonna come after this. And I was just like, holy shit. I was a fan. And I was like, fuck.
Ryan Stanger
They're gonna.
Adam Pally
He's gonna get.
Ryan Stanger
Can you even remember what I was gonna say?
John Gabris
This is tough because it's bad when you can't remember which one.
Adam Pally
I didn't notice a pattern after that, but I. I loved it so much and was scared.
Ryan Stanger
Now this is so funny because I don't know what you're talking about, but it is the most believable story everywhere. I'm like, all the details fit.
John Gabris
I don't know what you're talking about.
Ryan Stanger
So walk the tightrope. Crushed, maybe. Offended some people.
Adam Pally
Crushed for sure. But it's like, what the fuck is this? This. You're burned for this. You know, should I release these? It was so fucking awesome. But I was like, don't. Oh, shit. Don't do it.
John Gabris
Yeah, that's how most people feel about my comedy.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. I've been co hosting with you for years.
John Gabris
No, I'm, I'm, I've grown a lot. I feel like this is a pattern that's happening on the podcast is me having to apologize. I've grown. I've grown a lot.
Ryan Stanger
I'm going to have to adopt all those puppies. So.
John Gabris
Yeah, I'm sorry about the load I bear bore on you.
Adam Pally
We got a sled team, you know.
John Gabris
That's good.
Ryan Stanger
See?
Adam Pally
Yeah. Beat Palin's husband.
John Gabris
That's good. Oh, well. So the outcome is really great.
Adam Pally
I got. So this is. You guys are under the smartless banner.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, that's us.
John Gabris
Yeah. Let's talk business.
Adam Pally
I am forever a fan. After I, I listened to an episode and Sean, Kevin Bacon was on and Sean was like, how does it feel to lose all your money to Bernie Madoff?
John Gabris
Wow.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Like, Bacon was like, beth.
John Gabris
Yeah. That's the kind of hard hitting journalism you're not going to get here. Also, what a guest. Kevin Bacon is the amalgamation of all three smartless men.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah.
John Gabris
If you were to sandwich them together in like a metal vice.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah.
John Gabris
They would come out as Kevin Bacon.
Ryan Stanger
They call themselves the three degrees of Kevin Bacon.
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Ryan Stanger
Now, Ryan. We kick off all our interviews with this question. Ryan Stanger, what are you doing to stay alive?
Adam Pally
Fucking everything. Everything that'll come up on this show. I've done it. I've tried it. I'm either doing it now or I've abandoned.
Ryan Stanger
You are my first text about any New thing I hear about, like, what's the deal with blank?
John Gabris
And now you will be mine.
Adam Pally
Okay.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Should never have given again.
John Gabris
Guess what? I try a lot of shit.
Adam Pally
I'm with you.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Adam Pally
I mean, have at it, but. Yeah. So you know, hyperbaric chamber. I just completed 100 rounds of that.
Ryan Stanger
That's a hundred days in a row.
John Gabris
100 days in a row.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Roughly. I mean, I might have missed a day or two in there.
John Gabris
Are they. Is. Do you have one in your house?
Adam Pally
Don't. I'd love to have one. I don't. I went to a location. Now, people that are listening that are going to want to try it. It's tough to find. You know, they may not have them where you guys are.
John Gabris
And they're prohibitively expensive, I'm assuming.
Adam Pally
Oh, yeah. I mean. I mean, to get, like, medical grade, which, of course, is what I sought out.
John Gabris
Brother, everything I sought out is medical.
Ryan Stanger
I want medical grade dabs.
John Gabris
You can't even find that unless you're on death row.
Adam Pally
Yeah, that. Medical grade.
Ryan Stanger
Oh, yeah, but that's when you finger a nurse. Yeah, a male nurse. Anyone can be a nurse.
John Gabris
Medical grade.
Adam Pally
It's. Is that what you said?
Ryan Stanger
We're not doctors. We did a disclaimer already.
John Gabris
Yeah, you weren't here for that. But there's a disclaimer. We are not doctors, and this is not prescriptive. These are all.
Ryan Stanger
This is just. We hear from people. We hear what they're up to.
John Gabris
And. And if you're a podcast host and you've been roasted by us, that is specifically for us to get ratings and engage with you.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. And we would love to have you on our podcast.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Please come on our podcast.
Adam Pally
Hey, come on their pod.
John Gabris
You know, after they.
Ryan Stanger
Brian, get better guests.
Adam Pally
So, yeah, they're like, these guys need the help. What the stanger.
John Gabris
So, all right, so you're. You're. You're in the hyperbaric chamber now. Now explain. You go to a location. Now, what is it? It's. It. What. What is the physical apparatus? What is the. What is the process?
Adam Pally
Well, there's multiple ways you can do.
Ryan Stanger
It, because what I'm familiar with is like, a tube you lay down.
Adam Pally
Most of them that are. That are in the medical grade category you can sit up in and.
John Gabris
Really?
Adam Pally
Yeah, they have a facility at ucla, and that one is a huge, like, submarine with multiple people in there and a tech that runs it.
Ryan Stanger
So they do like 10. 10 people at once or something.
Adam Pally
10 people at once? Yeah. And they'll sometimes there's emergencies. Like people that have the bends will come in there and they clear it all out for that.
John Gabris
How do they get the. How do you get there that quick from the ocean?
Adam Pally
I mean, they just take. You know, you can exist for a while with the bends and then they get you there as soon as they silo.
John Gabris
Made it seem like your head would explode right away.
Adam Pally
Depends on how deep you go. Ed Harris level. Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
I got scuba certified and was on the boat with a bunch of real scuba heads. And some of them have Ben's insurance, which is if they get it, a chopper will take them directly to the nearest hyperbaric chamber.
Adam Pally
Yeah, that's. You gotta.
Ryan Stanger
That makes me want to quit scuba diving.
Adam Pally
I mean, what does that cost? $4 million if you didn't have the insurance.
John Gabris
Right.
Ryan Stanger
Chopper lifted to a hyperbaric chamber and you're taking a chopper to and from every day for the 100 days, right?
Adam Pally
Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not necessary, but I. Traffic in la.
Ryan Stanger
Cool way to land.
John Gabris
I've never had the bends, but I do own OK computer on vinyl anyway. So. So, so it's. Yeah, so you could sit up in it.
Adam Pally
The one that I use. You can sit up. And there are some that people have built like in their house, like rooms, like full rooms. No, they're like little like saunas. Not even sa. Like they're little beds that they kind of sleep in. And that to me seems a little scary.
John Gabris
Oh, all right. I've seen like Lebron James will like sleep eight hours in a hyperbaric chamber. Is that healthy for you?
Adam Pally
I. I think you're okay. What I could gather from it was and how it kind of factors into recovery is that you go under a certain amount of atmospheres of pressure. So you're in this chamber that increases the atmospheric pressure and then you take in pure oxygen. So that. And it forces oxygen into your lungs more than what you would normally get from us just breathing the air around here.
Ryan Stanger
Even more than just wearing like an O2 mask.
Adam Pally
More than an O2 mask. And the one that I did, you used an O2 mask. And then the other like the ones where you're in a tank, like the submarine tank, what they would have at hospitals. There'll be multiple people that. Peeper people.
John Gabris
Yeah, multiple people.
Adam Pally
Multiple people that are using different oxygen schedules depending on what they need. And so you wear a space helmet looking thing and then they'll pop it off you. You take a little break and they put it back on. You stay under the pressure. But you get. You only get pure O2 in certain oxygen sequences, and then it increases blood flow. So, you know, you start creating, you know, more, you know, blood vessels and blood flow. And then. So people that have really bad wounds or diabetic wounds, they use it a lot, you know, amputate amputees trying to recover from that. Then some, like, growing back limbs.
Ryan Stanger
I'm next to a guy whose leg is developing as you're sitting there, and he's like, it's happening in the newspaper.
Adam Pally
Bad for pirates. What's my angle now? Yeah, now I've got to rely on the beer parrots in there with a little man.
Ryan Stanger
There's another red beard.
John Gabris
What am I gonna do? I guess I'll have to rely on this bird.
Ryan Stanger
I guess everyone has a bird. Did you say parrot with a space helmet?
Adam Pally
Yeah. Captain Hyperbaric says, hey, what.
Ryan Stanger
Good for blood flow.
Adam Pally
It's about as good as what I got. So. Yeah, so that, you know, a lot of amputees, like, I was reading about emergency plastic surgery, people that have, like, these, you know, injuries that aren't recovering.
John Gabris
Oh, no.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah.
John Gabris
What about athletes? Right. Like you mentioned LeBron James. I've seen this used a lot recently. I feel like I just saw like, maybe like Kevin Hart doing it or something. Like, what, what, what, what. What is that thing that you have in your house that looks like an iron long that you get in and you sleep in?
Adam Pally
I'm, I'm. That's hyperbaric. And so I don't know what their oxygen schedule is. And so, you know, because you can't.
Ryan Stanger
Breathe pure O2 for eight hours. Right.
Adam Pally
I. I don't know. I don't think that they are.
Ryan Stanger
Right.
John Gabris
They're going for an hour.
Adam Pally
Yeah, they're going for an hour. And if they were to go overnight, it might just be under that atmospheric.
Ryan Stanger
Pressure and not have, like, an oxygen.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Or it, like, releases oxygen in. In certain sequences.
Ryan Stanger
So they're hoping by increasing blood flow, that's like a way to repair muscle tissue. Yeah, like muscle for sure.
Adam Pally
That's exactly. If they have any kind of little micro injuries they don't even know about.
Ryan Stanger
Right. It'll help bring blood to those wounds.
John Gabris
Can you, like, go in there and be on your phone and stuff?
Adam Pally
They, if you're taking Pure O2 in, they're. They don't let you. Because if you have one little spark.
John Gabris
Right.
Adam Pally
You're right.
John Gabris
So I guess you can only vape.
Ryan Stanger
Fill. Fill in a hyperbaric chamber up with vape smoke while there's nine other like amputees. I mean, they're like, I hate this guy.
John Gabris
I hate it when P comes in for his session.
Adam Pally
But Donald Sutherland from Backdraft would encourage it.
John Gabris
Yeah, well, that's a very specific person who's dead.
Ryan Stanger
Oh, you guys see Backdraft to understand he's a bit of a firebug.
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What is your daytoday Staying alive regimen? Hike are. What's your workout? Sch. What's your diet? What? What. What are you doing to stay this fit?
Adam Pally
Okay, so right now what I'm into is sauna. And that's been for the last 10 years. I do it every day. I have a barrel sauna at my house.
Ryan Stanger
This is, this is what we were discussing because I I bought when we wrapped 101 places to party before you die. I bought pal Asana and he bought me a Tudor black bay Y.
Adam Pally
That was a plug and a brag. It's pretty good.
John Gabris
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John Gabris
Yeah, on that end. Actually I wear a Rolex. I wear a Rolex.
Adam Pally
Check out the watch.
Ryan Stanger
But we're. We're sauna freaks too. And like you got me kind of tuned into saunas and I'm jealous that you Have a full in his yard. In stud city you just have a wooden city.
John Gabris
Is that what you call your yard?
Adam Pally
Everybody else does, but maybe I will. So.
John Gabris
So he got me this infrared sauna that's like a little like, you know, super cool modern looking glass thing where you can sit down to the Bluetooth.
Adam Pally
And the go in his pally come out of Superman.
John Gabris
Exactly. So I, I, I'm pretty much at. When I'm at home every day. Great hour a day you're in a barrel sauna.
Adam Pally
Barrel sauna. So that's a more traditional dry sauna.
Ryan Stanger
Hot rocks.
Adam Pally
Hot rocks. Hot. Yeah. Hot rocks that are heated electrically. It's got an electric heater.
Ryan Stanger
So you don't pour water on it.
Adam Pally
No, I mean you can. As long as the rocks are hot enough and you're not getting touching the heating element they should have. The water should mostly evaporate before it touches. But it's a havari heater. The sauna is dundock and it's all red. Canadian red cedar.
John Gabris
Sounds like a German band.
Ryan Stanger
Don't dock me, man.
John Gabris
Dock me.
Ryan Stanger
What other place do you get to call out the name of your heater? The kind of wood company that made you sauna? Like there's not.
Adam Pally
Well, yeah, I mean you kind of want to look into where the wood's coming from. There's a lot of drop ship companies that are coming out now because it's become popular and it could be, you know, junk wood. That drop ship, that means just like Alibaba, like Amazon.
Ryan Stanger
You get a teu sauna dropped off in your house. It's this big. Just put your hands in it.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Your f. You had a little finger cut, you know. Okay, that's, yeah. So you want to be careful of the, you know, the wood and make sure there's not impurities because you're sitting in there and it's cooking.
Ryan Stanger
Right.
Adam Pally
And you're breathing it.
Ryan Stanger
Right, right. If it's got weird pesticides or some in or some shellac.
Adam Pally
Right. And so all this, how often do you clean it? I don't clean it a ton. Like great.
John Gabris
All I need to hear, we can move on.
Adam Pally
It's me and mine. So let's move on.
John Gabris
Let's move on.
Adam Pally
They, it started like around 2015. This Finnish study was published and they, they looked at these guys in Finland. It's a good place to do an observational study.
Ryan Stanger
Most saunas per capita in the world is in Finland.
Adam Pally
So they could find people that were doing it every day.
John Gabris
No. No chefs.
Adam Pally
No.
Ryan Stanger
That's Sweden, right?
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
Not a single chef.
Adam Pally
Sweden's good. They even have a Muppet made after one. Finland.
John Gabris
Tons of chefs. Yeah, tons of chefs.
Ryan Stanger
I want the Finnish Muppet that's always sweating from being ins.
John Gabris
It's hard to do with. Felt like every time we pump the water, the thing falls apart.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Low mortality rates. No meatballs in Finland either.
Ryan Stanger
Finland.
John Gabris
Finland's kind of boring.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
And shout out our first live shows in Finland. I couldn't even name a city in Finland to make it. To make a more specific.
Adam Pally
So this thing came out and people went nuts for it because they were looking at guys 42 to 65, somewhere in that kind of age range, and they looked at him for 20 years and they accounted for other healthy lifestyle factors. And they found crazy numbers like a 60% drop in all cause mortality.
Ryan Stanger
I love that phrase. Dr. Rhonda Patrick found my fitness. She was the first person I heard to talk about this study. And the phrase all cause mortality. A 40% reduction in anything that will kill you. Yeah, it's like a crazy that. How do you not. How do you not start getting involved?
Adam Pally
It's up as high as 60. I think you can. People should look it up. Everybody here picked up on it and they've now looked into other things that it can do for you. But that was Alzheimer's. It was all cause mortality.
John Gabris
And is that barrel versus infrared or so.
Adam Pally
I don't know. Because in Finland they just do the other kind. But I mean, I mean, it's got to be.
John Gabris
There's got the act of sweating.
Adam Pally
I think so. I mean, it's tough to know. And people will throw around stuff like heat shock proteins and. But I don't know. I mean, it's one of those.
John Gabris
I don't read any of his stuff.
Ryan Stanger
Protein is the guy I follow on Only Fans.
Adam Pally
He was a great wrestler. He does solo jack off scenes.
John Gabris
I also follow Rock.
Ryan Stanger
Imagine following an ex wrestler on Onlyfans. I watched the Undertaker, her Paul bearer puppet.
John Gabris
I follow Rock Chalk Chopra on. On Only Fans.
Ryan Stanger
Which is the rock climbing Indian guy?
John Gabris
No, he's a Kansas JH fan. He's a Jayhawk fan who gives out spiritual advice.
Adam Pally
Other followers. Ashley Judd.
John Gabris
Like, okay, Rob Rig.
Ryan Stanger
What is the belief behind why saunas work? It's because the heat shocks your body.
John Gabris
Or are you sweating out to. Are you truly sweating out toxins?
Adam Pally
So I don't know. You know, toxins things. People throw that around too. I don't know. Like, I don't know what the. They may not Know what the scientific mechanism is or what's happening that does it. Because it's interesting too if you look at this study. So I mentioned that there are other healthy lifestyle factors because immediately people would jump to oh well, if you sauna every day then you're doing other things to take.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. You're not a guy who's at the china buffet every night and then going to the sauna during the day.
Adam Pally
No, no. So, so they factor that in diet, smoking, exercise. And you know, observational studies are inherently flawed because you just, there's not, you're not looking at the sign. It's hard to do like how can you get somebody into the lab every day and do the sauna and then.
Ryan Stanger
And then have a guy who is exercising the same regimen in the.
Adam Pally
So you know, they're, they're tricky but because there was, it was such a large population that they looked at, you know, to, through 3,000 people, you know, people. And it's been peer reviewed. So people, you know, people do respect the study and then how robust the results were. So it's not like one of those things to where it was like, oh, you know, it's 12%.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Adam Pally
It's huge numbers.
Ryan Stanger
And so even with a margin of error.
Adam Pally
Right.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. It's still going to be juicy.
Adam Pally
Totally. And they found that people in high. The people that do more so more frequency have more robust results.
Ryan Stanger
So people that are more better. Yeah, yeah. There is like a, there's more than.
John Gabris
So is there something to the idea of like sweating out a sickness? Like let's say cuz like I've, I've had like you know, a sinus infection or a bad cold and like gone into a sauna to try to sweat it out, you know, or like a flu. Is, is that that, is it as like prescriptive as that? Is it or is it strictly like we're talking long term benefits.
Adam Pally
So interesting you bring that up because I have seen talk about respiratory disease so you know, you name it, you got some kind of respiratory thing going on. They found that people in the sauna, it, it shortens the duration of their. Whatever they've got infection or gut.
Ryan Stanger
To be fully anecdotal here, here I find that if I have a little something in the throat or in the nose or a cough after a couple of days in the sauna, maybe I would recover it anyway.
John Gabris
Right.
Ryan Stanger
But the sauna does at least and even in the moment acutely kind of relieve me of it.
Adam Pally
And if you catch it on the Tits and not in the throat or the nose.
John Gabris
You know, that's short.
Adam Pally
But you don't want to be like have the reputation of being a cum dodger.
Ryan Stanger
Come in my nose. Nose pies.
Adam Pally
We don't kink shame here.
Ryan Stanger
Do you google nose pie anymore?
John Gabris
That's why I was asking about cleaning mine.
Adam Pally
Wow.
Ryan Stanger
Oh, I like what you did with the frosted glass here.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. A little splotchy privacy.
Ryan Stanger
I tried to jerk off in the sun. I almost fainted. It's like the alter. It's like a auto erotic asphyxiation. So sweaty.
Adam Pally
The ultimate kink. Need a lot of equipment, a lot.
John Gabris
Of reduction of all of kinds.
Ryan Stanger
Cause jizz. 60% reduction in jizz.
John Gabris
You hear how Gabri died?
Ryan Stanger
Let me guess, Coming in a sauna.
Adam Pally
Whoa. It wasn't suicide. So. Yeah, I mean I think a lot of what we're living in here, you know, at least in this recording location, is in the realm of anecdotal. But I've experienced that too. To where it's like I, I definitely feel better. I definitely, if I can drag myself in there and I've got something seem to recover. And then most recently I've seen some research or some studies done out there about it reducing the duration of. And I think people that use it get sick, get respiratory disease less.
Ryan Stanger
I feel like when I'm on a good sauna regimen, I, I do feel over. Here's a small anecdotal thing I've noticed. When it's really hot in la, I'm not as sweaty. Like I'm a little heat adapted from the sauna. I don't get as like overheated easily.
Adam Pally
And, and yeah, I think you build up a tolerance. Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
And it feels good. And then when it's like 90 degrees out, I'm like, well, I sat in 160 today.
John Gabris
But there's nothing like. Like my. One of my favorite things is being in the sauna. And then like you get in the shower and you're still a little like steamy and then you walk into like New York cold.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. You know, that's that contrast there.
John Gabris
I love that you're like, oh, your eyes go back in your head. I like that. I live for that.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. My gym has a little outdoor area and the saunas in the outdoor area. So if I build up enough of a sweat when I come out, I look like a linebacker or a lineman on the, on the sideline. I come out, there's so much steam coming off me And I train at, like, one of the gayest. One of the gayest places I've ever been in my life. Besides. I mean, it's as gay as a gay bar, and it's awesome. But I come out and there's just like, six dudes lifting weights, and I'm shirtless, like, in a Speedo with, like, steam coming off me. I feel like I'm baiting everyone. I look like a freshly served dish.
John Gabris
Has any of them ever made a move on you?
Ryan Stanger
No.
John Gabris
Then you're not bathing. That's in your head.
Ryan Stanger
No, no. I get a little. I get a little eye.
Adam Pally
What about when you present yourself in a chafing dish and then pull the lid off?
Ryan Stanger
When they pull the lid off and my legs are behind my head in the Belgian oyster, I have one candle in my ass. Lynn, you don't do that.
Adam Pally
Make a wish. I mean, don't do that. You owe it to them.
Ryan Stanger
At that point, I feel like they are ogling me as I'm spread eagle with a candle.
Adam Pally
Can't I just.
Ryan Stanger
Guys, like, everyone just slowly drifts to another section of the gym. Like, let's go do cardio. I love the sauna and cold plunge combo. That's like a real treat.
John Gabris
Yeah, we've been talking about that a lot. Is that something that they.
Ryan Stanger
We're trying to talk him into building a cold plunge in his yard.
Adam Pally
I want one. So that's.
John Gabris
Are you cold plunging?
Adam Pally
I do, but I don't have. I. I have to go.
John Gabris
It's not with the frequency.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Because I have to go somewhere to do it.
John Gabris
Right.
Adam Pally
But I. I do want to get one. And that's. That's. That's something that's come out recently, too, to where they find that the. The benefits are more psychological.
Ryan Stanger
I. I was saying earlier that more.
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Yeah. People just screaming with laughter that, like, do the polar plunges and stuff.
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Ryan Stanger
Stang, you're one of. One of the more, like, regimented or like, you hit your goals. You do like what you say you're going to do. And you just mentioned your kid. Is he inspired at all by your fitness? I know he's been getting into lifting recently. Right.
John Gabris
And. And as a personal trainer.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Yeah.
John Gabris
Do you find that you have a respons ability to. To both your clients and your kid to, like, stay in shape like that, to show them like, this is my job?
Adam Pally
Yeah. Yeah.
John Gabris
I mean, you don't want to feel that pressure.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
I would be a great personal trainer if people were okay with their trainer being fat. You know, like a mechanic's car is the worst.
John Gabris
Yeah. A doctor's child.
Ryan Stanger
Hey, speaking of the devil.
Adam Pally
There's not. I mean, I used to work at this big. It's now an equinox, but it's this massive gym in West Lake la. It used to be called Sports Club. And there was this guy in there.
John Gabris
Basketball courts.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Got basketball courts. They've got. Yeah. Stuff on the roof. Like, all kinds of functional on the roof. But there was this guy there because they used to, like, really drill down on the trainers to sell. Was like, this crazy pressure. He had to be a good salesman. And there was this guy there that was ripped, named Rudy, and he had the most clients by far. He worked all day with clients. And. And they would all do the same thing. He looked fucking ripped. It was just genetics. And so you'd see him and there'd be like a little old lady. Like, there'd be like a super ripped guy. Ramp. Ramp.
Ryan Stanger
There'd be an ADAPT programming feature.
Adam Pally
Yeah. But every. Cause he just looked so ripped. And there'd be other people that looked less fit, but they were great trainers. So you just never know. I mean, that's. Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Well, this is. This is a great segue to. I'm sure some. Listen. Some listeners or viewers of this podcast are curious about getting a personal trainer or maybe I don't know how to. What. What would you look for as a Personal trainer yourself, what would you look for in a good personal trainer?
Adam Pally
Well, I think.
Ryan Stanger
Or what makes you a good personal trainer, too?
Adam Pally
I think certification. So I think it's important maybe to start there. It doesn't always have to be like, somebody can be really experienced and, you know, just kind of know by training a lot of people and been in the game for a long time. But, you know, you can look for certification, you can look for certain degrees and maybe start there. And I think anybody a good degree to look for exercise, you know, kinesiology. Yeah. Physiology, something there some kind of background in it, or if they just have some level of certification and that they've. They keep going with continuing education credits, their ces.
Ryan Stanger
They're not some guys sitting on some, like, old degree. They're constantly learning the new stuff. And.
Adam Pally
Yeah, so. But that's not 100%. That's just maybe a good place to start. Start. And then you really. You want to sit down with them and talk about what their plan is. And if they don't ask you what your goals are, you probably want to bail.
Ryan Stanger
Right. If they, if they just say, what. This is my perspective.
John Gabris
We're gonna get you ripped.
Adam Pally
Yeah. It's just like, all right, day one, here we go. Back squats. Let's do it. Number one. And you're just like, I don't want to do that. You know, I just wanted to, you know, get my cardio up or whatever it is. They should be asking you what your goals are now. Now, once that's done, they may encourage you to kind of focus on some other areas that they think would be helpful or beneficial to you. But if they're not asking you your goals, it's a bad sign. And they also. They also should assess your baseline level of fitness to see, you know, where to go and how hard to train you.
John Gabris
What does something like that look like? What does that assessment look like?
Adam Pally
So what I used to do as a trainer is I would. I would do like this talk test. So I'd get somebody on a training treadmill, and I would just, you know, have them on the treadmill. I'd increase the incline, and we would just talk. And so we talk about what we're going to do that day.
John Gabris
Do they know that you're testing them?
Adam Pally
I tell them, yeah. It's not any kind of secret. And, you know, just. We're just talking about what they, you know, that's a good place to kind.
Ryan Stanger
Of make your temperature rectally without them knowing. Just see everybody. Yeah.
Adam Pally
Of Course, I didn't think I needed to mention that.
Ryan Stanger
At least that's what my trainer does. The thickest thermometer.
Adam Pally
Yeah, that's a good sign.
John Gabris
You're also in the back of a veterinarian. You're not exactly at the gym.
Ryan Stanger
I'm in a Temple Grandin hug machine. Large animal vet is where I go for my thigh. Your blood pressure is great. If you were a bovine. But it says here on your chart, you're a human. Look at my chart.
John Gabris
You know, I gotta tell you, the. Your stomach's not great. I thought that I was gonna have to look at two other stomachs. Yeah, but it's even worse.
Ryan Stanger
But your milk production's through the roof. Stop tugging on that, Utter. You only have one working udder.
Adam Pally
Are you willing to help us increase the buffalo population? Sure. But. Yeah. So you do this talk test, and then you can kind of get a good, like, baseline level of their cardiovascular fitness. And then I'll do a really simple workout where we're just doing some kind of push, pull, and it's called squat. And then so you can see their functional flexibility. So you know how much flexion they have in their ankles to do a squat. You know what kind of shoulder health they have doing these push and pull exercises. And then you can see some, you know, some issues that they may have with flexibility or some, you know, certain weaknesses that pop up. It's usually it. It would usually be really easy. I would comp them that session and then, you know.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, my trainer, Addie did the first one free as well. And it's kind of like a good way to. Because then it's. It's like, no pressure on you, like.
Adam Pally
Yeah. And it's. It's a good sign if they're doing that, because then you can figure out each other's chemistry. And if it doesn't feel like a good fit or I know another trainer that I think might be better for them, then that recommend them.
John Gabris
Is there, like, a trainer break room in la, shrinking, like, where all the therapists go to talk.
Adam Pally
Like, Ford's up in that motherfucker. I used to see him at this gym I worked called Pro Gym. Yeah. Yeah. He was getting in shape for Crystal Skull Ripped dude.
John Gabris
Really?
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, he does pop his top in it and Crystal.
Adam Pally
Yeah, he does.
Ryan Stanger
Oh, no, he doesn't dial a destiny, right?
Adam Pally
Yeah, he was.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, he looked 70 something. Take his shirt off. Good for him.
Adam Pally
Yeah. And. Yeah, but I saw him in the.
John Gabris
Century City parking lot lost on.
Ryan Stanger
In a plane. Kalista Trying to take off.
John Gabris
It was in the basement. I was like, breaker, Harrison, you got to get up to the top thing. He's like, I'm making my move.
Adam Pally
She offered him a vape, and it like, Popeye, you know?
John Gabris
Yeah. No, his car reeked like weed. He was just good. Doing donuts on the plane.
Ryan Stanger
The land.
John Gabris
Sir, you're in a Tesla, buddy.
Adam Pally
Cheech and Chong were in there.
Ryan Stanger
Like, what the ch.
John Gabris
Marin.
Ryan Stanger
The something you said about assessing their mobility. This is something I saw a personal trainer do one time. That broke my mind. I watched a personal trainer hold their client. Older clients. Hands to lower them onto an incline incline bench, where then they did, like, light dumbbell flies. And in my head, I said, the trainer should be working so that this person can get on and off the bench by the. The inner pec development is less important than the ambulatory skill to get up.
Adam Pally
And down off the bench, standing up and sitting down. No, no, no. We got it.
Ryan Stanger
Like, no, get them over there. Get them doing this number one peck Fly.
Adam Pally
Yeah, but I mean, this gym. I mean, these corporate gyms where they're just trying to sell. It's like. And if you're on the road or something, you're like, I just want to do a quick workout.
John Gabris
Exactly. Yeah. That's why I belong here.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Let me introduce you to Todd. He's a drinking fountain consultant. Hey, what's up, man? Let's go ahead and show you the drinking.
John Gabris
And you're like. You're like, buddy, I'll never be in the Equinox in Denver ever again.
Adam Pally
That's very cool. But number two, let me show you the locker consultant.
John Gabris
Then you'll need to know where the pool is. Yeah, I'll figure it out.
Adam Pally
Like, we're gonna need your social.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's.
John Gabris
So that's always, I think, for a lot of people. What trainers. What's like, the fear of a trainer.
Ryan Stanger
Is, you know, I mean.
Adam Pally
Yeah, totally. And I tell you, man, working at this sports club, you know, I was like, in my 20s, and you're early 20s, and you're dealing with these huge numbers. So you get somebody and they're kind of interested in training, and then you have to sell them a 20 package, and it's like $7,000, and you're just like. I mean, I feel like such a.
John Gabris
Because, you know, they're not. It's January 3rd.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
And you're like, you know, you're not gonna get through that.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. Like, might as well get, like, some runoff money.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Hands shaking as I give them the.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Or, you know, they don't have the money and you're really trying to sell them on it.
John Gabris
It's kind of like a stripper.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
In that way.
Ryan Stanger
We have an ATM machine I can take you to champagne protein shake room, do a full release workout. But yeah, I mean, you. No in the spin room.
Adam Pally
Well, you mentioned the shrinking break room. But at these big clubs, I mean, you know, there's a little community of trainers and especially the ones with a lot of trainers, at least anecdotally in my experience, everybody's each other, the membership people and you know.
Ryan Stanger
Like, I got that big titty client coming in.
John Gabris
I mean, and it's always married suburban moms. Right?
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, it really is.
John Gabris
Right, right. Is that what. Because that's another myth of personal trainers that we could like talk about today. Like, who are they? Always the suburban mom they're training.
Adam Pally
Oh. I mean, there's definitely flirting.
John Gabris
There's definitely. There's like always flirting. Right. There's always like a certain, like sexual.
Adam Pally
Tension, strange stretching type stuff.
John Gabris
Right. That does exist, but I don't know.
Adam Pally
About them taking it to the next level.
John Gabris
Level. This is always like the myth of a trainer.
Adam Pally
Yeah, it's possible, but it's a lot of. It's trainers with each. With each other.
John Gabris
Right?
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Like fit people just hanging around all the time. Yeah. Ryan, what makes a good client?
John Gabris
Oh.
Adam Pally
Oh.
Ryan Stanger
So how can we, if. How can listeners, if they wanted to be a client, be a good client?
John Gabris
And you've. And you've trained some of the biggest.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
Do you sign any NDAs? Can we ask names and stuff?
Adam Pally
Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. So. So I. So I've trained some actors. One professional athlete trained. I say I maybe met with them.
Ryan Stanger
Like once or twice, a couple of sessions. Not like. But your long term clients have always.
Adam Pally
Well, that's where I made the shift because I found that very wealthy people that had more normal jobs. Best clients. Because you know this. Both, Both you guys know this. You can get fast and furious with a trainer and then you, you're gone. You know, you're off shooting something.
Ryan Stanger
I'm going to Vancouver for nine months to do Hunger Games.
Adam Pally
Yeah. So you get in shape for, you know, a couple of months, you get in great shape and then you're gone. And so I, you know, had some folks like this and I was like the pig with the straw house. And life was like the wolf.
Ryan Stanger
Okay.
John Gabris
All right.
Ryan Stanger
You know, did he go to the market or did his house get Blown down.
John Gabris
And weren't there three of those kids?
Adam Pally
Yeah, there was three, but the smart one was the one I became the Brick House guy. But at first I was a little.
Ryan Stanger
Sly in the family. Wait, Rick James sings Brick House?
Adam Pally
Yeah. What?
John Gabris
Is there any other analogy we could go with?
Adam Pally
Did I do the three pigs one?
John Gabris
Yeah, that pretty much the one we.
Ryan Stanger
Landed on and we edited out the first three times you did the three pigs.
Adam Pally
Leave this one in. This one will drive it home.
John Gabris
I know what this hyperbolic chamber do. Anything for your brain?
Adam Pally
No, not for mine. It should. But for mine, it did nothing.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, it's a. It's a lost cause.
Adam Pally
Before I was telling the Little Red Riding Hood wolf. Yeah, I think it's the same guy. Smart, but yeah. So I would train, you know, people that had these inconsistent schedules, and then you'd, you know, get used to that income, and then they're gone. But people that were, you know, had the same schedule for the most. Most part. If I could show up every day, people in the morning that train in the morning, always better. Because makes your.
Ryan Stanger
It makes you freeze up your day as an actor. Well, that.
Adam Pally
But also they will show up more if you train somebody in the evening. They just. By then they're like, I'm not doing.
John Gabris
Like, you get a lot more cancellations.
Adam Pally
Yeah, way more cancellations.
Ryan Stanger
And then I. I know this as being your friend for a long time, you would train these rich people who had gyms in their houses.
Adam Pally
Oh, and I did home gym design. Like, I would. It was like being a personal stylist. With gyms, you're just like the dream, picking stuff out.
Ryan Stanger
I rack a lat, pull down machines.
John Gabris
I really like to talk to you. I really want to make a nice gym. Oh, yeah, you could help me do that.
Adam Pally
Absolutely.
John Gabris
Oh, that'd be great.
Adam Pally
I'm down. I trained these guys that were 100 millionaires, maybe billionaire. To give you an idea, I introduced two guys together that I was training, and one of them had a charity going on. And the guy that one of the guy, the guy that I introduced him to, donated a million dollars to his charity on.
Ryan Stanger
Upon meeting him.
Adam Pally
Upon meeting.
Ryan Stanger
In one sentence, it's like the ball.
Adam Pally
Like, okay, what do you need?
Ryan Stanger
That's like me pulling out of 10.
John Gabris
But that guy's, like, clearly hiding money.
Adam Pally
Yeah, Yeah. I think. Yeah. You couldn't tell by his cars and house, but yeah, that's why it's hidden. Yeah, yeah. So crazy money. And then it'd be really, like, wild because it's so much money that they didn't even know they had it. So I trained this guy for years and he had a woman that worked in his house and she had a little kid and we were watching the kid kind of growing, grow up. And so I, she'd bring her kids sometimes, a little kid grown up. And I said, you know, you should pay for her kids school. And he was like, oh yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah. She, you know, it's about to start school. Like why don't you get her into a good private school and do it all the way through. And he's like, it's a great idea. So he did it. He's like, if you ever think of other stuff like that, that's what he said. Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
And I'm like, okay.
Adam Pally
Like, didn't even know.
John Gabris
You're like, okay.
Ryan Stanger
You're like, I have a kid too.
John Gabris
There's this dude. Dude, Ryan Stinger.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
You should give him a million dollars.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Well this is going to someone's house to train them. That is like, you know, they're going to be there.
John Gabris
It's intimate. It's also intimate. You're in their house, you're seeing, you're.
Ryan Stanger
Like, you know the, the idea of building a, customizing a home gym. I would play a video game that was like gym tycoon. Like, like the idea of like, ooh, put a sauna in a plunge here. Like that's totally.
Adam Pally
You put the cheat code in for unlimited budget. Yeah, like I did. Right. Next.
John Gabris
So we can' for someone else makes.
Adam Pally
It more fun and challenging for me.
John Gabris
You can work in a box.
Adam Pally
The difficulty level.
Ryan Stanger
Hyperbaric chambers. Who's the other one for?
John Gabris
For me.
Ryan Stanger
I come by.
Adam Pally
Or your pets. Yeah. So we put it like in his newest house. We put a crazy cold plunge in that's right by his Jacuzzi and pool. And it's, it's, you know, covered and it's constantly at about 40 degrees and just stays that way. And it's, he's super tall. So it goes all the way down to like the center of the earth.
Ryan Stanger
Oh, he's really tall.
John Gabris
Yeah, I mean just Paul Gasol.
Adam Pally
He's so tall. It's down to like Brendan Fraser. Bumblebee level. Who's this show for?
Ryan Stanger
And then. Not me.
Adam Pally
We did.
John Gabris
I didn't get that.
Adam Pally
Fine. Somebody out there did and they won't be.
Ryan Stanger
And the rest of the people are complaining on the Reddit.
Adam Pally
Yeah, the rest of people are a Reddit.
John Gabris
You think our fans are going to get it together and have a Reddit. You can't even get like a beer night together.
Adam Pally
We did a full sauna in there, all that.
John Gabris
Yeah, that's what I want to do.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
Cuz I, I, I, I, I want, I, I just want a dedicated space. I feel like right now we moved into this awesome house and it's in New York City, so we don't have a ton of space, but we just like use the basement as that's where everything goes and including like the peloton, the weights and the sauna, you know, and it's like mishmash.
Ryan Stanger
Including a couch and a tv, video games for kids.
John Gabris
It's like, I need a space. It's like, you know, I, you're more.
Adam Pally
Likely to go in there if you do.
John Gabris
Yeah, exactly. That's why I want, I want to, I want to do it right, but I don't have any money.
Adam Pally
That's, I mean, there's ways you can say floor is really important in there. And you can buy these things, like the rubber ones. Yeah. That, that'll snap together and you can kind of adjust them to fit any spring space. They're, they're prefab.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
I want like, I want my whole thing to be prefab.
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah.
John Gabris
But not bad. But not pre bad.
Ryan Stanger
I think that's prefontaine.
John Gabris
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Ryan Stanger
Not without limits. I need limits.
Adam Pally
I think pre bad was Thriller. Yeah.
John Gabris
I don't want it to be dangerous.
Adam Pally
That's what it is now. Let's be honest.
John Gabris
And it is definitely depending on you who you talk to. His story.
Adam Pally
Yeah, I mean, that's good because Chris Tucker is involved.
John Gabris
I think so is Macaulay Culkin.
Ryan Stanger
I remember the time you might want to move the kids video games and couch out of the basement.
Adam Pally
We got Magic Johnson.
John Gabris
You don't think it's cool to work out in front of my kids and their friends?
Ryan Stanger
You don't work out at home though. You're still a gym rat.
Adam Pally
No, I have, I have peloton. I love having that.
John Gabris
You see you do a peloton.
Adam Pally
Do a peloton.
John Gabris
What's your peloton go to length of class, hitting hills. Are you, Are you going straight sweaty doing arms? What are you doing on the peloton?
Adam Pally
I do so at first I was doing a lot of the classes, which I do like, and I have an instructor that I like, but now one of the things I'm doing currently to stay alive is the Norwegian 4x4 hit protocol.
Ryan Stanger
And that's this phrase I love just the phrase of.
Adam Pally
Yes, it sounds really fancy.
John Gabris
Norwegian you say that's.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Because I think they.
John Gabris
Interesting you're all in that region. Yeah. Finnish, like. All right, so what is it? Because I'll try doing that.
Adam Pally
So this one is. Is what it is, is a. It's high intensity interval training. But the. Where it differs from Tabata and some of the other stuff that folks will do is that it's extended efforts. So Tabata is 20 on, 10 off. 20 on, 10 off. Yeah. Or some of the other ones are minute on, you know, minute hard, 30 seconds off. Or I. There's like the, this eight program, but this one is, is you start with the 10 minute warmup and then you go four minutes 85 plus percent of your maximum intensity level. And then you do three minute recovery and then four minutes again, three minute recovery all the way out to four and then a five minute cooldown.
Ryan Stanger
So it takes four sets of four minutes with three minute downtime.
John Gabris
And what's the total class 45.
Adam Pally
It's about 40 minutes.
John Gabris
Oh wow.
Adam Pally
And it's. So I just do it on my own. I just use the.
John Gabris
You just. You just use. So you're just listening to your own music on it like a regular exercise bike?
Adam Pally
Yeah, so I just use like the, you know, there's experience. Whatever you want to do. Like choose your experience.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Adam Pally
So in Peloton I found the interface is really easy and nice. Yeah. And it. I broadcast my heart rate from a wrist like a armband heart rate monitor on there. And I use that to assess my 85% effort. 85% effort.
Ryan Stanger
You know the number of heart rate you're aiming for.
Adam Pally
Yes. And the Peloton has a, a program that you can use use to get your maximum heart rate. So it goes. It becomes a little bit more accurate than just using A lot of things will be like a number minus your.
Ryan Stanger
Age, 20, minus 42 or whatever.
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah. And that might get you close to the range. But this is you go up as hard as you can while monitoring your heart rate, you know, through a couple different levels and then they'll give you a number. And so because people will tell you RPE or rate of perceived exertion is good for using the this. But I don't always trust that for myself. I like a little bit more of a.
Ryan Stanger
Of the science of the world.
John Gabris
If you don't like to think about anything while you exercise except like, you know, you want to minimize. What if you. What if you want to minimize the amount of like pinpoint number going across the screen. How would you prescribe something like that?
Adam Pally
So I'm very similar to you in that respect. I'm assuming you're talking about yourself for a friend. Yeah.
John Gabris
No, no, for me.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
He's trying to get me to exercise more.
John Gabris
I can't say it. Friend.
Adam Pally
Ronin West Granada. He. So I'm like that. And so I don't like too much. I'm not gonna write it down in a book. I'm not gonna get somebody in a lab coat involved. Okay. So I do this one. And after the first couple of times, it's. It's really easy.
Ryan Stanger
I found like once you know the mechanics of what you got to do.
Adam Pally
I found it's even easier than a class.
John Gabris
Really?
Adam Pally
Yeah. Because it's just this. It's close to the same every time.
Ryan Stanger
You know, like, you don't have to like, you know. Exactly.
Adam Pally
You know. Exactly. And the number breakdowns are really easy. So pretty soon you're like, okay, it's, you know, it's been 10 minutes, we go four and then it's 17. It just like is super easy because they've looked at this and they've done it in where they're pulling, doing liquid biopsies and they found that this. Doing it in this rain range reduces circulating tumor cells. So let's say you're concerned about that or you're just somebody that, you know, doesn't want them to ever pop up in your body.
Ryan Stanger
Right.
Adam Pally
You can throw this in once a week. And to keep them at bay, the sheer force that increases with your blood flow kills them.
John Gabris
Of a 4x4.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Of just having your heart pumping that fast for that long just wipes out some bad stuff.
Adam Pally
Yes. And they don't see it in the shorter duration. You have to get in the extended effort.
John Gabris
You got to get into. Yeah, I got to get into extended effort.
Adam Pally
Yeah. And you can do it once a week or once every two weeks, something like that.
John Gabris
Just to show you plug it into your resh.
Adam Pally
It. It also increases your brain derived neurotropic factor or blood drive neurotropic factor. You can tell because I don't know which of the two. Not to maybe press any further with questions, but it, it crosses the blood brain barrier. So it does, you know, it, it increases like, you know, what your brain is able to do and memory and all that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of positive benefit that actually been able to study.
John Gabris
And that's not exercise in general. That is specifically from this type of.
Ryan Stanger
Maximum exercise in general does do this a. To a degree.
John Gabris
Degree. But this is maximum. Like you're not getting this from lifting weights.
Adam Pally
No.
John Gabris
Doing sit ups.
Adam Pally
No. Oh, yeah. Maybe from like a very light walk. No, no. You've got to do this. You've got to do this specifically. At least this is what they've tossed, tested and been able to find.
Ryan Stanger
And you can, you could do this on a treadmill or on an erg too, if you can figure that out.
Adam Pally
You could. It's harder to, you know, monitor where you're at and it's because I've tried it on all kinds of different cardio equipment and it's. To get into that range is, is tougher. Like you have to be really good on an erg to get there.
Ryan Stanger
Right.
John Gabris
And so do you have to be pushing the person on the swing or do you need be. Can you be on it?
Adam Pally
You can be on it.
Ryan Stanger
Depends. All depends on your heart rate. That's me getting ready. One Mississippi two.
John Gabris
If you were to talk to a client, you were to prescribe them like a week and be like, this is, this is how I think you should maximize your week's worth of health. Would you break it down to something like, you know, three days of cardio weightlifting, bike like get like. Or is it strictly to you, like there is this prescriptive exercise that you need to be doing every day, day that is going to keep you alive?
Adam Pally
Yeah. I mean, yeah. So if it's like, what's the minimum? Like you should at least be doing this.
John Gabris
Sure. Yeah.
Adam Pally
Yeah. So I would say resistance training.
John Gabris
Which, which means what? Because a lot of people hear that and they don't know what that means.
Adam Pally
Sure. So it would be a push, a pull and a squat. So you want to do hormonally intelligent exercises to get the most out of that.
John Gabris
So like a, for layman, it would be like a push up, a crunch or a, or a, or a, or a curl or a pull up or a pull up. And what was the last one? A squat And a squat.
Adam Pally
I, I would do, I wouldn't do put. I would do with weights.
John Gabris
Okay.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
So I would do specifically, more than calisthenics, the resistance training would be with weight loaded.
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah, would be.
John Gabris
So what would, what would a push pull on a squat look like to you?
Adam Pally
So that would be like a chest press or a military press. Okay.
Ryan Stanger
A row or a pull up or something.
Adam Pally
Well, that would be for pull, right?
John Gabris
Yeah.
Adam Pally
And then for, for squat it could be. You could do like an angled leg press. You could do a back squat, you could do a front squat. You could do some kind of lunges. And this is, you know, we're getting into the longevity talk here. There's all this talk around thigh circumference.
John Gabris
Right.
Ryan Stanger
Quadricep muscle development like directly correlates with.
Adam Pally
Yeah. And I think that is more speaking to maintaining muscle muscle mass because there's.
John Gabris
And not just what I'm doing into.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Thick thighs save lives.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
It's not just what I like. It's not just how I, I wrote that article. I got to tell you, I did not look into any of it.
Ryan Stanger
I can't believe it got picked up in the scientific journal.
John Gabris
Me either. Cuz my stats were guesses.
Ryan Stanger
Talk about all the crushing my head parts though.
Adam Pally
Yeah. This. Yeah. Guy into big asses saves lives. Do we have to do the.
Ryan Stanger
In there?
Adam Pally
Yeah. So I think a lot of that is talking about staving off sarcopenia, which is something that sets in when you hit a certain age where you just start to like muscle just goes.
Ryan Stanger
Muscle atrophy.
Adam Pally
Yeah, Your muscle just starts to atrophy and then it, it goes up more and more as you age, you start losing more and more muscle and a lot of it goes from the legs and that's the most important part for overall health, like with blood flow. And then also if you forget falls because there's countless stories of people that have a relative that's in good health. They fall, they go to the hospital and they die.
John Gabris
They break their hip and then they're dead.
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah. And it's just like it all started with that. And so if you think about, you know, maintaining muscle strength in your legs, you're going to be able to move around, you know, protect yourself from falling over.
Ryan Stanger
And, and there is some truth to resistance training helping with bone density as well too.
Adam Pally
Yeah. So bone density, you need that like adaptive, you know, change that adaptive stress change that happens when you're. And a lot of it can be from, you know, jumping too. Like if you're able to kind of jump into your old age, that kind of.
Ryan Stanger
That's a good sign.
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah.
John Gabris
You know, just jumping jacks, super squats.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
In jumping, rope, box jumps, all that stuff. Skipping.
Adam Pally
Yeah. All that kind of functional stuff helps with bone density. So that's something to like factor. Factor in. And then we talked about cardiovascular training. So I would do something that elevates your heart rate. You know, if you can do the kind of extended effort stuff that we're talking about it might not be as crucial as just showing up to do something that at least challenges class. Yeah, great. Spin class, Tabata exercise. Something where your heart's thumping, right. Because that's something we stop doing as we get older. Like, you know, your kids run around, you go to the beach, you pick them up, you can feel their heart thumping. But I mean, I don't know all about, like, when was the last time your heart was jacked?
Ryan Stanger
Like without exercise?
John Gabris
I had to go to the bathroom and walk up those stairs before.
Ryan Stanger
Just when I was going to the bathroom this morning, the was coming out, maybe sideways. My heart was pounding.
Adam Pally
Yeah. So I mean, if you're.
John Gabris
If you shit out a jackhammer shark.
Ryan Stanger
That'S where you put it down. You pile driver shark.
Adam Pally
So I would say that to the client. If they're in a recording studio and they have diarrhea, get up those stairs. I. Something.
Ryan Stanger
Dude, I should move my bathroom upstairs because then I would at least get like eight flights in every morning.
Adam Pally
Sprint.
Ryan Stanger
Stanger, thank you so much for coming on, staying live.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
And, and giving us a little bit of like. It's just always nice to talk to a personal trainer who gives you like the real, real about what they do.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
You know, cuz it's like so often the most intimidating thing is, is a personal trainer that makes it seem honest attainable. You know, it's like a psychologist that's like, you'll never be cured and you'll just come be coming to me forever. And I think that's what people are scared of in a lot of ways.
Adam Pally
Yeah. I mean, I can close out with the most important thing is showing up. And so if that means doing something easy that you love, then do that. Right. The people that win in the end are the ones that show up. And we could all do a Sergeant Slaughter routine or a Wahlberg routine that lasts for two days and then by January 3rd, you're done.
John Gabris
Right.
Adam Pally
You lost then. So if you don't feel like going to the gym, but you like doing biceps and it's leg day, fucking get your ass in there and do biceps again. Who gives a fuck as long as you show up.
Ryan Stanger
You're the one who, who really ingrained in my head because I get stuck in this thing. And you said perfect is the enemy of good. And you've also said just. Just do anything. Yeah, anything is better than nothing. You know, I can't get 10,000 steps, but guess what? 3,000 steps is still better than zero steps.
Adam Pally
Yes. Yeah. In 50 step I mean, whatever it is, it's. If you're doing nothing, that's you've lost. So just do the easiest thing you can think of and don't hold yourself to any level because it's like you can sometimes think about, oh, man, when I was really in shape before, I was doing heavy squats and I just don't feel like doing that or I'm not ready and just do whatever you're ready for. And I, I even struggle with that still. I don't know what the, what the psychology of that is, but if you can break that down, that pattern and just keep showing up attendance, if you, if you can practice good attendance, you'll always win.
John Gabris
Right. And that's kind of like what they say about being an actor in a lot of ways. Right. It's like, just show up on time, know your lines and go home.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
You know, and it's like, no matter how good or bad you feel like you're doing, if you do that, everyone will love you.
Adam Pally
Yeah. McQueen was just staying the deliver.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Like, you just never, of course, take your word for it as to not really working.
John Gabris
No, I mean, it's something. And I think it's true. Like, you know, because like, the one thing you can do to mitigate that is show up on time and know your lines.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah.
John Gabris
You know, and then everything else will be fine.
Ryan Stanger
Off Stanger's advice to the other thing, because you're the one who told me that you're like, well, if you, you like the sauna, if you, if you're not going to go to the gym, but saying, I'm just going to go to the sauna will get you there. Go there and then you get there and you're like, I could jump on the fucking. I could jump on the bike for.
Adam Pally
A little bit, end up doing something.
Ryan Stanger
I could bang out a few sets of chest and then get, get in the sa.
John Gabris
Truly. Yeah.
Adam Pally
Stretch on the mat. Look at my phone. You end up doing something and then you get a positive neuro association with the gym to where it's like, I like going there because it's never a drag. Right.
John Gabris
And it makes me feel good.
Adam Pally
Yeah. And if it feels like a drag, you're not going to show up and.
John Gabris
That you're not doing the right exercise.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
For yourself, whatever it might be. Like, you know, if, if that, if you need, whatever you need to get you. If you like swimming, you know, find the pool. If you like it, whatever it is.
Adam Pally
That's great. I mean, that's Another thing to mention mention is if it feels. If you're not happy doing it, do something else.
Ryan Stanger
You're never gonna.
Adam Pally
It's you. You're a grown up. Do something else.
John Gabris
Right?
Adam Pally
Find something that you like, crucial. If you're like, this feels like. And I hate it, of course you're not gonna exercise.
John Gabris
Right.
Adam Pally
Do something else. Find something fun and challenge yourself to, you know, challenge yourself to find something fun that you enjoy.
John Gabris
Yeah. People who are afraid of the gym, get something at home.
Adam Pally
Like.
John Gabris
Like, you know, figure. Figure out a way to get yourself going.
Ryan Stanger
Oh, that's like a whole another episode idea that we could do. And Stanger would be a good guest for that too, would be.
Adam Pally
Start booking them now.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Let's get stinger sting available 9am tomorrow.
Adam Pally
Until this starts doing well. And then, like, we're good.
John Gabris
He's got his own spin off. He's Dr. Phil.
Ryan Stanger
But no, like, being comfortable in the gym is probably a good episode because. Because gyms are less scary than people think they are. People are more surprisingly more supportive than you think they are.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Full disguise, I think is good. Dress up like a dog in a zipp pursuit, all that kind of running.
Ryan Stanger
On the treadmill, on all fours.
John Gabris
Yeah. You're always painting your face. Right?
Ryan Stanger
Like a clown. Not racistly.
John Gabris
Yeah, but you should hear the clown's voice.
Ryan Stanger
The clown's voice is offensive.
John Gabris
That is.
Ryan Stanger
Stanger.
John Gabris
Thank you so much, man. This was such a pleasure. Is there anything you want to plug?
Adam Pally
People should listen to Gabri and I doing Action Boys on Patreon. I'm sure that hasn't come up ever, so.
Ryan Stanger
No, none of our guests are co hosts of my other podcast. So it's nice to bring you in here, Actionboys Biz. And you also host a.
Adam Pally
Yes, I do a fitness podcast called Dumbbells. It's. It's anywhere where podcasts are found. Talk about all kinds of fitness. And it's information light. You know, it's more silly. Just kind of us making sense.
Ryan Stanger
Not as scientific as this one.
John Gabris
Not with the pros.
Adam Pally
Yeah, I didn't push as hard as I do on this one.
John Gabris
Yeah. One thing, I think you're going to the mat for us.
Ryan Stanger
One thing I think you and Aaron do that's cool on your pod is go try weird fitness trends.
John Gabris
Yeah, that's cool.
Adam Pally
Yeah. So if people ask us, we'll go try this. I'm gonna do VO2 max coming up. I'm scared for that one. And then a dex v2 max. VO2 max is how efficiently Your body takes over and uses oxygen like, like.
Ryan Stanger
Lance Armstrong and Michael Phelps have like insane VO2 max because they're people who have great cardio lung systems.
Adam Pally
Yeah. So I'm gonna do that and then we're gonna do a DEXA scan.
Ryan Stanger
I did a DEXA scan.
John Gabris
Yeah, I DEXA scan.
Ryan Stanger
A body fat scan.
John Gabris
Oh boy.
Adam Pally
And most accurate. And they look at, they, they look at bone density and all that. Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
Bad news. I'm. I'm carrying like according to that, I'm carrying like 90 pounds of fat. That is so that is a person. Yeah, that is a small person, but it's a full person. I'm carrying around extra.
Adam Pally
You get, I mean get that person out of you.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, I'm trying, trying a couple more it out today. Yeah, I'm probably down to 88 sweet green.
John Gabris
Well, let's mark, let's mark the progress on that because I have a feeling that in the run of this show you're gonna get that, that little person's gonna become an actual little person.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. Hell yeah. I'm gonna get down to a Warwick Davis in there.
John Gabris
Yeah. I'm at a bad Santa level.
Ryan Stanger
I gotta get it down to Jawa size up.
John Gabris
It's back up to Chewy level.
Ryan Stanger
That's why, that's why Harrison was lost in the mall. He didn't have Chewy as co pilot.
John Gabris
Meanwhile, Chewy was on the other side in his Prius.
Ryan Stanger
This is the largest car I could afford on my salary.
John Gabris
It's got the ways ding. But then the ways goes.
Adam Pally
Chewy's just banging with a wrench trying to fix it.
John Gabris
It's like, you know it's not broken.
Ryan Stanger
It'll rip your arms off.
John Gabris
Off. Thanks, Danger.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, thank you, Ryan.
John Gabris
Dude, he's the best.
Ryan Stanger
What's the straw house thing?
John Gabris
Oh, you still.
Adam Pally
No.
Ryan Stanger
That was a hell of a convo. Answered a lot of questions. I hope some people got some good take.
John Gabris
I wish all personal trainers were that chill.
Ryan Stanger
Were that like upfront about.
John Gabris
Yeah, upfront about the expectations that you should have of them and, and the way it's going to go. It's like so, it's just so nice to have someone that's so fact based and, and just like simple about it, you know?
Ryan Stanger
I really wish he wasn't too good of a friend because I would love to hire him as a personal.
John Gabris
Me too.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Ryan Stanger
I don't think we would just be.
John Gabris
Yeah, I don't want to be trained by a friend and like do that thing where you're talking about stuff while you're exercising.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah, I don't.
John Gabris
Yeah, things are.
Ryan Stanger
Things are good.
John Gabris
I mean, it could be better, but it's like I don't want.
Ryan Stanger
I already talked to him like three hours a week about 70s action movies. So I don't need to add, like, my health to the.
John Gabris
No, no, no. You don't need another hour of staying. That was a great one.
Ryan Stanger
Yeah. We'll see you on the next episode. Let's see if you actually can stay alive. Stay alive. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally. A Smartless media production in association with Sirius xm.
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Ryan Stanger
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Ryan Stanger
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Podcast Title: Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally
Episode: Trainer Tips & Sauna Dips (w/ Ryan Stanger)
Release Date: July 3, 2025
Host: SmartLess Media
Guest: Ryan Stanger, Personal Trainer and Fitness Podcaster
The episode kicks off with Jon Gabris and Adam Pally engaging in their signature humorous banter, setting a lighthearted tone. They introduce Ryan Stanger, highlighting his dual expertise in comedy and fitness. Ryan is praised for his authentic approach as a personal trainer who doesn't sell gimmicks or snake oil, which the hosts appreciate amidst an industry often saturated with quick fixes.
Notable Quote:
John Gabris (01:46): "I prefer that because there is, you know, a large part of this industry, as we're learning, is somewhat like snake oil salesman."
Ryan elaborates on his experience with hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT), discussing its uses in medical settings for treating conditions like the bends, diabetic wounds, and even limb regeneration. The conversation touches on the technical aspects of HBOT, including atmospheric pressure and pure oxygen infusion, highlighting its benefits for blood flow and tissue recovery.
Notable Quote:
Ryan Stanger (07:40): "Fucking everything. Everything that'll come up on this show. I've done it. I've tried it. I'm either doing it now or I've abandoned."
Adam shares his decade-long daily sauna routine, emphasizing the traditional dry sauna experience with hot rocks and electric heaters. The discussion references a Finnish study that observed a significant reduction in all-cause mortality among regular sauna users, attributing benefits to factors like improved cardiovascular health and increased blood flow. They explore both the physiological and psychological benefits of regular sauna use, including enhanced heat tolerance and potential respiratory benefits.
Notable Quotes:
Adam Pally (16:53): "What I'm into is sauna. And that's been for the last 10 years. I do it every day. I have a barrel sauna at my house."
Adam Pally (20:50): "It's up as high as 60. I think you can. People should look it up."
The conversation shifts to personal training dynamics. Ryan discusses what makes a good personal trainer, emphasizing the importance of certification, continued education, and personalized workout plans tailored to individual goals. They debunk common myths, such as trainers only working with the "right" body types or engaging in inappropriate relationships with clients. Adam shares anecdotes about training high-profile clients and the challenges of maintaining long-term client relationships, highlighting the balance between professionalism and friendship.
Notable Quote:
Adam Pally (33:03): "I think anybody a good degree to look for exercise, you know, kinesiology. Yeah. Physiology, something there or if they just have some level of certification and that they've. They keep going with continuing education credits."
Ryan and Adam delve into effective workout routines, particularly focusing on high-intensity interval training (HIIT) and resistance training. They discuss the Norwegian 4x4 HIIT protocol, explaining its structure of extended high-intensity efforts followed by recovery periods, and its benefits for cardiovascular health and muscle maintenance. Adam outlines a balanced approach to exercise, incorporating push, pull, and squat movements with weighted resistance to combat muscle atrophy and improve bone density.
Notable Quote:
Adam Pally (48:07): "It's high intensity interval training. But where it differs from Tabata and some of the other stuff is that it's extended efforts."
The hosts emphasize the importance of consistency and finding joy in exercise to sustain long-term fitness habits. They discuss overcoming psychological barriers such as perfectionism and intimidation, advocating for manageable goals and enjoyable activities. The mantra "anything is better than nothing" is reiterated as a key strategy for maintaining motivation and attendance, paralleling the discipline required in acting careers.
Notable Quotes:
Adam Pally (59:21): "If you're doing nothing, that's you've lost. So just do the easiest thing you can think of and don't hold yourself to any level because it's like you can sometimes think about, oh, man, when I was really in shape before, I was doing heavy squats and I just don't feel like doing that or I'm not ready and just do whatever you're ready for."
Ryan Stanger (60:22): "Perfect is the enemy of good. And you've also said just do anything. Yeah, anything is better than nothing."
In their concluding remarks, Jon, Adam, and Ryan summarize the key insights shared throughout the episode. They reinforce the value of showing up, whether it's for a sauna session, a workout, or any health regimen, as the foundation for long-term well-being. The importance of making fitness enjoyable and tailored to individual preferences is highlighted as essential for sustaining healthy habits.
Notable Quote:
Adam Pally (62:10): "If it feels like a drag, you're not going to show up and that you're not doing the right exercise."
Production Credits: Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant. Associate producer and video producer Maddie McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano. Assistant engineer Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O'Connell at SiriusXM. Executive Producers: John Gabris, Adam Pally, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson, and Bernie Kaminsky.
Note: This summary excludes advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections to focus solely on the substantive discussions and insights shared during the episode.