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And greetings. Happy Monday. Welcome to the Steve Day show here live and on demand on Blaze tv, radio and podcast. I'm Steve Dase alongside Todders and Ann Aaron McIntyre. So why are we back to the traditional open of the show? I'll tell you here in just a second after I remind you about our friends over at Birch Gold. Do we have an Iran deal? Don't we? Were you guys when you saw gas here locally get under $4 a gallon for the first time in a month? You guys just run to the gas station to get more gas while you could? I did that yesterday. Didn't even really need it, but I'm like, first time I've seen under $4 here in a month, man. Take advantage of that right now. So when you live in these kinds of uncertain times. You guys see the crypto dump? Yeah, that's in my crypto wallet right now. Holy cow. $135 million crypto dump today. Little pump and dump action. Why do I bring up all that uncertainty? Because this is why folks, usually wise and prosperous ones, have been using gold as a hedge against such events now really for millennia. Our friends at Birchgold can help you do that as well. All right, text Steve to the number 989-898. They're going to send you a free info kit on gold on how you can convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold. All right, text Steve now. No obligation, just information. Get, get started right now with some folks that are very, very well respected and have tons of, of positive reviews from the Better Business Bureau. All right, text Steve to 989898 again, that's tech Steve to 989898. All right, next hour it's going to be your turn to ask me anything. I trust that we have some doozies, Mr. Erzin. Looking forward to that.
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Yeah, as you should.
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But I want to. I wanted to start with something different today. That's why, back to the traditional open. No montage or tease how we're going to respond to it. Because over the weekend I, I did something I've never done before in my career. And I've always tried to hold myself accountable as best I can. I can't do it very well. I'm a human being. I'm subjective by nature. All right? And that's why I hired people, you know, complete and total human pests like Todd to help me do. To help me what I cannot do on my own.
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Thank you.
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That is, I mean, I meant that graciously.
B
I know. Thank you.
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I try to hold myself to the same standard I hold others. And I've always promised you guys that I'm going to be as transparent as I can be when it doesn't violate a third party confidence. Okay. And. And one of the things that I think has been kind of both fascinating and frustrating throughout my career is when I tell people up front exactly what I'm thinking and why, and I tell people upfront exactly what I'm going to do and why. We've kind of lived through this a few times over the years, right? Yeah. And then people, what did you, what do you, what? I told you I was going to do this. That doesn't mean I'm right. That doesn't mean you have to agree. But you really should not be surprised. I pretty much do what I'm saying, what I say I'm going to do. Now, I might do it in a way that surprises you, and sometimes like I did over the weekend, maybe even surprises me. But from the beginning, in our home state of Iowa here, I think is nationally important. Five minutes after this election cycle ends and until Donald Trump endorses a candidate, which might happen 10 seconds later, who knows? All right. But five seconds after this midterm ends and until Donald Trump endorses a candidate in 2028, the Iowa caucuses here in my backyard are going to rage. We just had vice president here. Ted Cruz has already been here several times. It's good to pick up the mood that comes out of my home state of Iowa. And that is going to tell us a lot about the environment in this presidential election because it's going to be what dominates the conversation since we're first in the process. Furthermore, we have only a few seats, Senate majority. We have a contested Senate seat in my home state here. Now, Joni Ernst retiring. She's likely going to be replaced by Congresswoman Ashley Henson, who's probably going to win her primary convincingly tomorrow. Now, the Democrats have a primary as well, and they have one candidate who is their heart and soul and then another one who I think is messaging to a Democratic Party that largely does not exist. And we have to hope that they're not smart enough to nominate the latter guy because we have a guy in Zach Walls. Lesbian parents used to joke about how they used to get him Playboys when he was a teenage boy as long as he could share them with them. I mean, he is, he is the construct of the modern Democratic Party. Hard, hard, hard, hard left. And then you have Another guy. And Josh Turek, who's a gold medal winner in the wheelchair Olympics and basketball. An incredible personal story. Born with several birth defects because his father was exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam. If you look at his ads, they're critical of Trump, but they're not like crazy critical stuff, right? Just the kind of stuff that Democrats have usually argued about. You know, stop giving stuff to corporations, give more to the little guy. Health insurance companies suck. But the rest of it is all very inspirational, you know, And I'm really hoping and praying that Democrats follow their hearts and souls, their blackened hearts and souls, and nominate Zach Walls tomorrow. Because if they nominate Josh Turek, that race is going to get a lot tougher. And then on the governor side, we have a candidate that's got $20 million just sitting in his pocket waiting. And that's before his own party gets involved. That's before the Democratic Party weighs in. This is just his own money, money he's married into. So we're up against it. We have three swing districts. We have four congressional districts in this state. One of them is hard red. Couldn't lose it no matter who we nominated. The other three are open and can be contested every single cycle. I believe. What's our current House majority, guys? I believe. Is it three? Is that the number?
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I think our House majority is minus three.
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I feel. Not what it. Not what it feels like, but what it might actually be. Officially, I think it's three. Maybe it's five, but I think it's three. In other words, this one Senate seat and these three House seats in my home state could determine whether we watch a president first of all get impeached and then get removed at this time next year. So there's a little bit writing on this. Not to mention it's where I live, it's where my family is, it's where my grown children are, it's where the next generation of my family is launching with Anastasia, my oldest daughter, that a lot of you have gotten to know over the last couple of years on the show. Her husband Stephen. They have an incredible daughter in autumn, and they've got another one on the way in, Olivia here in a couple of months. So beyond the political strategic priority. Priority that Iowa is, it's a priority for me. I live here and we have all the various intraparty issues and factions, with the exception of the anti Semitic stuff, there's just not really any audience for that in Iowa, like at all. But all the other fights of how much are we going to give into Data centers and AI. Are we really going to enforce immigration policy? Because, you know, we have all these ag companies here and food processing. Food processing companies here. And they're saying to the Secretary of Ag, Brooke Rollins, if the president follows through, we're not going to have workers. I mean, this for only having about 3.7 million people. Essentially the entirety of the Republican party argument is happening right now. At least the existential variety is happening right now in our home state. We have the most divisive issue I've ever seen. Intern. I see an issue I've ever seen in Iowa and that. And that is over whether or not to confiscate a bunch of people's farmland in order to build, you know, a carbon capture pipeline. And it's mostly big money Republican interests that are in favor of this and are. But the Republican base is like 9010 against it. Like, and not just the rurals like you go into. I was the keynote speaker last summer at the Polk county, largest county in the state, most urban county in the state. I was the keynote speaker last summer at the Polk County Republican Party. Before I got up to speak, packed room, over a thousand people in the room. Right before I got up to give my address, the largest applause line was when somebody says, we're not gonna steal people's farmland. And this was in the heart of Des Moines, Iowa. I mean, this issue, there's never been a bigger rift between what the donor class in our state wants and what the actual. Forget even just hardcore Republican, but even mainline Republican wants. And we're very divided right now. The governor, as much as we adore her, made a mistake in vetoing that bill that would have stopped them from taking people's farms. But I would argue she made a double mistake because if you are going to be to it, then you probably should just rammed through the pipeline so that the pain at least would be over. People have gotten paid for their land and we could start. Begin to repair the relationship and move on. But by leaving this dangling out there, it's like if you come home from school every night for a year and mom and dad are screaming at each other every night, eventually you're like, hey, go to counseling or get divorced. We can't. We can't live like this anymore. That's a good summation of what it's been like here in our state on the ground. Yeah. And then now throw in on top of that, we may take your land for data centers. So we already had this very toxic land issue here in our state. And on top of that, now here comes the data center issue. We are up against it in this environment. It was already going to be very difficult to win. I have told you from the very beginning. I, I don't believe Congressman Randy Feenstra can win. I, I just watched a Texas primary with a way more accomplished and popular congressman in Chip Roy lose statewide for Attorney General. This is the same Chip Roy that beat the star of the Texas Democratic Party, abortion Barbie to get his seat. This is the same Chip Roy that's beaten attempts by Donald Trump to primary him in the past. And Trump did not even endorse against him. Trump stayed out of it to his credit. That's got to be the most temptation Trump has resisted in quite a long time time politically. Why did Chip lose? His first name is Congressman Chip Roy. Have, has anybody seen Congress's approval ratings at the moment? Are they pretty low sketch? Yeah. Subterranean perhaps. Okay, what can you, if you dig down into the, into the, into the ocean wall, what will you come to first? The Congress's approval rating or the lost city of Atlantis? Let's find out. Iowans have never elected a member of Congress Governor before. Or at least as far as we have reliable records going back to Reconstruction when the two party era began, post Civil War. Not to mention this guy's run the most cynical campaign. He's done almost no campaigning, shown up at no forums or debates where he was going to have to face questioning from people at the same time as the other candidates or from the other candidates. And he's essentially just run the entire time on. Eventually I'll get the President to endorse me and none of the rest of your votes matter. And if a guy, you know, it's one thing to win over your base and then move to the middle in the general, but if you just completely disenfranchised your base, you're probably not coming back to him in the general to try to win him back. Right? Correct. Right. It's very clear. Randy Feenstra represents kind of the last bastion of the establishment in my home state. The kind of people that would rather lose to Democrats and lose control of the party to us. And on purpose, like Romney in 2012. On purpose. They've been running a race to prove that they're back in charge. I'm sure they want to beat Rob Sand. It would do them no good for Randy to win the primary then lose the general. But they only want to win a certain way. It has to look a certain way. That was the problem that Romney had in 2012. And Randy's very similar. Not nearly as successful, but very similar. He's not really his own man. Very double minded. He'll switch flip flop on virtually anything. Not really a strong. It's kind of plastic. Very much like men known him for years. So from the beginning, have I not said Randy Feenstra cannot be the nominee?
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Absolutely.
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Have I said this from the beginning?
B
Yes.
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Have I said from the beginning if he is, we are going to lose and we're going to lose badly. Have I said that from the beginning?
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Indeed.
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Now. Now I said that in the beginning, and that's before. Randy's negatives were 20 points higher than they were at the start of this race. His negatives are 20 points higher than they were at the start of this race. He's out of money, by the way. He spent all of his money because he didn't get the Trump endorsement he thought he was going to get until the last second on Friday. And so he actually had to then blitzkrieg the airwave. The latest polling in Iowa showed that a relatively unknown former political operative that I had never heard of, frankly, until he ran for this office, named Zach Lane, was on track to win the Republican nomination for governor. Now, I've gotten to know Zach a little bit in this process, but prior to this, I didn't know him at all. If you guys listen to Daniel Horowitz's show, you probably have heard way more about Zach Lane than you have listening to my show. Daniel's been very excited about him. Why? Because Zach is hardcore, Maha. Hardcore. We're not giving in to the AI Industrial complex. And all three of us here on this show are kind of. Well, two of us on the show are working through our views on this. I mean, Todd essentially has the Daniel Horowitz view. Right. I think Aaron and I to some degree will put words in your mouth there, and that's probably a topic for another show. But if. Is it a good summary that you and I to some degree think that it's inevitable, this technology on the horizon? Oh, yeah. Can we. Can we harness it for good? But we also don't want to see it just completely displace our humanity at the same time. Is that a good summ. So. So we're kind of. We're working out our AI salvation with fear and trembling over here. Todd and Aaron and Aaron and I are, you know, Todd's already staked it out and he's Catholic, guilting us every time the issue comes up. Is that a fair summation of Your position.
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Thank you again for that.
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You can't say we're not self deprecating.
B
You're being so nice to me on this show. I just. The blessings are my cup overflow.
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No mini patre. Yes. All right. So anyway. And Zach has money raised. Money comes from money. And he's been spending it pretty aggressively in our state down the last month. But here's what he's spending it on. Like hardcore issue messaging. Like Steve Da show issue messaging. Like no H1B visas. No more illegal aliens. Every. Every ad company is getting work permitted with E Verify. We're banning MRNA technology in the state. I mean, it would sound like this is. And this would be. You know, why Daniel is high on him. I brought a candidate into the race before Zach Lane announced, named Adam Steen that I really, really like and I'm really high on as a prospect. And in many respects, Adam represents. As I've seen him on the show. I know you guys enjoyed him. Represents what Iowans have traditionally voted for. But for reasons that maybe when I have time after this race, maybe I'll go into some of them. But for reasons. Just really struggled to come up with an issue message that had his campaign go from its initial ascent to then take that next step that it takes to ultimately win. Is that. Is that fair?
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That's exactly right.
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Okay, so what happened? Why did the President endorse Randy Feenstra at the last minute? And Randy Feenstra is on record with multiple VIPs in Iowa telling them how much he disdains the President should have never ran again. It's not just, you know, I didn't think the President could win again. That's one of the reasons why I backed DeSantis. He didn't even think he should have ran. He's just a very low character individual. And the President's well aware of this. That's why Randy Feenstra was the only incumbent in Iowa that he didn't endorse. He endorsed everybody else. But Randy left him hanging out to dry. So why did he come in here and endorse him at the last minute? Well, because of Zach Lane. Because Zach Lane was going to win. And I think that you have to look at what Zach Lane. That's the only. That's the only variable that has changed this entire race. Because Trump could have made this endorsement how many other times? And he could have made it when Feaster was a way stronger candidate than he currently is. There was as good a chance that Fer was going to finish third prior to the Trump endorsement. In my view, as he was going to win outright and avoid a convention, he was dropping. He's dropped almost 15 points in his own polling. I know one congressional district internal poll in my. In our state here has Randy Feenster losing by 20 points to Rob Sand. Now, obviously, those nar. Those numbers will narrow the closer we get to the election. Partisans will come home. But even if it's just five or six points, we will lose that congressional seat. Now, if it's two or three points, we might lose it when you throw in how bad the independents are against us at the moment because of the economy.
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So
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the only thing that changed then is that Zach Lane was going to win. What does Zach Lane represent? Well, let's just say that the relationship between the White House and Maha this year has been complicated. Is that fair?
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Oh, at least, yeah.
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I mean, I mean, I'm watching Del Bigtree counter signal right at RFK Jr on my X feed, and I'm like, yikes, right? Have you seen some of that stuff?
B
Oh, yeah. Didn't we just have Robert Malone on a month ago?
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Yeah. Zach is endorsed by RFK junior Rob Schneider, who's another big Maha guy. In fact, they're all doing a conference call for him here in Iowa tonight, in fact. And then it's the data center issue. And it's very. The president's made it very clear he thinks this is the economic and technological wave of the future. He very well, very well may be right. I've not argued. I've not really argued vehemently against this. I'm not. I don't know that. I don't think I hold Daniel and Todd's position. But I, But I also think that the temptation here to sell our souls to this, I'm concerned about. At the same time, again, I just have not gotten figured out exactly where my footing is on this issue yet. But what I don't want to see and what I think is a terrible idea is to, without any hearing from the candidate or the president, nominate someone who's on record and is being supported by folks who will take other people's land. I think that's a terrible idea. It's one thing if we're running on that and we have. We get to have a family argument about that. And people think we went to the dinner table during the primary and they thought they got to be heard. And it's another thing if we just ram that down people's throats. We're not talking about what the tariff rate's going to be, or the tax rate's going to be, or who's getting this tax benefit. We're talking about people's homes. People's homes, homes, homes. And I kind of feel like when it comes to your home, you ought to be granted some agency. Can I get an amen on that?
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Amen.
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You deserve to be heard.
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You do. You.
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You deserve. In fact, you. You have the right to be heard. Let alone just doing this in the most cynical way absolutely possible. And then I look at all the data and I look at all the numbers, and it's just very clear. My candidate. I'm going to. I'm going to vote for Adam Steen tomorrow. Scientists in my yard. When I left here to come to the studio this morning. My candidate's not going to win. We can hyper spiritualize this all you want. You know, if you want to hyper spiritualize stuff, do this. Fling yourself off the top of a building downtown and just beg and in midair, pray for God to bail you out. He's very likely to say, you know, have you heard this thing called ladders, stairs, steps, parachutes. Don't do stuff like that. Adam's not going to win. Doesn't have the resources. He's out of money. He's been out of money really for a few weeks. Not going to win. Zach has all the momentum. So over the weekend, I did something I've never done before. I put out a video, and I let the Lane campaign share it, and I essentially said, you can go watch it. It's on all my social media. I essentially said, listen, I endorsed Adam Steam, but if I can't get you to come with me to Adam Steam, and you agree with me that Randy Feenstra means Rob Sands going to be governor of Iowa, that he cannot win a general election, then. Then you pro. You should vote for Zach Lane, because the data says he's the only candidate that has a chance to beat Randy Feenstra. I've never done anything like that before. I knew it would open myself up to some criticism, although, frankly, it hasn't been nearly as much as I thought. The overwhelming reaction I've gotten, except for a few people, the overwhelming amount of reaction I gotten was very positive for helping people who were struggling on what to do with this, to think it through. But. Someone who works for Zach Lane said this to me yesterday because they've been following this race the whole time, because they're candidates in the race. And this person said to me, goes. You know what surprised me the most about you doing this is that you ended up, you ended up doing exactly what you said from the beginning you were going to do that Randy Feenstra cannot be the nominee, can't win. And you ended up following through on that. And I was like, that's really all I ever do. I tell you up front what I'm going to do, why I'm going to do it and then I just, I end up doing that. When it's all said and done and I have these guys here to call me out when the moment, if I'm tempted in the moment to not follow through on such things, my guy can't win. But hey, my yes is my yes. I made a commitment to my guy. But, but I have a job. My job is not to endorse candidates or be an activist. My job is to analyze things from a biblical worldview and tell you the truth as best as I know it and believe it. Not even the truth that I want it to be, but the truth that as I believe it to be. Here's what I believe it to be. My candidate has no chance to win. None. And with, and, and, and his one route to victory was that nobody gets the 35% needed to win. And we go to convention where he's the best organized. But I don't believe with Trump endorsing Feenstra now, I don't believe we'll have a convention. I think Feenstra's floor just got raised. The question is what's his ceiling? We've never seen the President endorse somebody this damaged, this late. It would be the most Randy Feenstra thing ever to break the President's 150 game winning streak or whatever it is of endorsements he currently has, which would only prove our point. But I honestly don't have a clue what will happen tomorrow. I just know this. I, I needed to know. I did. See what? If you haven't figured this out about me, I do not struggle with the things I cannot control. But these guys will see me getting verklempt about and ponder over and over and over again to the point that I get to the lint in my navel. Off the air is about the things I think I do have some control over. That's the stuff that bothers me. And I could not just sit here and take an L, especially because it's very clear that this endorsement only came in at the last minute because a guy that's pro maha and pro property rights was going to be the nominee. Well, you know what you know, Zach Lane's base are Maha people and evangelicals. Whose base does that sound like?
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The show?
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This shows audience is what it sounds like. And, and I, I just could not leave you guys hanging out. My friends at TPUSA came in and endorsed Zach on Friday as well. And I, I just can't leave you guys hanging. And I'm like, well, you know what, man? I don't want to risk anything. I'll sit it out. I already endorse my guy. When there was something that I could do, there was something I could do. And so what I did is I let the Lane campaign put out a video saying, listen, if you look at the data, the only guy that can beat Randy Feenstra is Zach Lane. Is that not a fact? According to the data? Might be wrong, but according to the data, is that not a fact?
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Yes.
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Yeah. Did I say anything factually untrue?
B
No.
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No. Did I tell people Adam Stein's a terrible person and should never be governor? And it's just, I, I got it wrong, guys. He's a, he's a hive of scum and villainy. Is that what I did?
B
No. You said you're still voting for him.
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I'm still going to vote for him tomorrow. But, you know, taking my hat off of what I want to be true and then putting on the hat of my. As an, as an analyst and telling you what I think is true, and that's my job. What is true is Adam has no chance to win and Zach does. And he's the only one with a chance to beat Randy Feenstra and probably therefore beat Rob sand in the fall, since I don't think Randy Feenstra can do that. And, and, and, and it's not. And why am I spending 20 minutes on this for you guys? One, so you guys can see me hold myself accountable and explain myself. But two, you need to know that Senate seat and those three congressional seats might be the difference in what kind of whether you see impeachment next year nationally or not. Whether essentially the. In the year of our Lord 2027, the Trump presidency is stillborn and done because it's just nothing but a year long. And Peach a palooza, those three congressional seats, that, that might be determined by how weak our candidate is at the top of the ticket might be the reason we're having one conversation or another this time next year. Amen on that. Right?
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Absolutely.
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So that's why I could not just sit here knowing there was something I could do. I could not just sit here and say, but you know what? A handful of people who are close to me who are also backing Adam, who have helped me will be very disappointed. They'll be mad. They'll be upset. I could not just sit here and say, you know what? So because of that, I'm just going to let this thing play on and do nothing when I have a little bit of influence to do something. May not be a lot, we'll find out tomorrow, but at least a little bit of influence to do something. Especially because what am I telling you guys to do all the time as you listen to the show, not just sit it out because people's feelings might get hurt. So should I just go ahead and just on my end just sit out because a handful of people who I care about might get their feelings hurt?
B
Absolutely.
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Absolutely not. Can't. That's not the standard I'm trying to encourage you to. I deliver to my own standard. So I stepped in and did what I knew was right. And I'm going to tell you this. This is the most piece about this gubernatorial primary I've ever had. Has been these last 36 hours since that video came out. Because I know now. I know now. I'm spent. I'm a spent force now. I did everything. I fired every gun, made every call, made every decision. I've done everything I could do to try and save my state from the Democrats turning it blue in November. And I'm good. And it may not be enough. And that's okay because the Lord's already blessed me more than I deserve. The Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord. I am totally okay with the outcome from here now because I know I did everything I could with that which God has provided me, including doing something I've never done before in my career. Gentlemen, your thoughts?
B
Well, we just got to get. It's understandable that psychologically and emotionally when you put invest time, talent and treasure into a political race that you want to feel good about the candidate. Believe in that person personally. But the end all and be all is something higher. The person is serving something higher. And you're not throwing that person under the bus by saying, nice try, it just didn't work out. It doesn't mean they're a failure as a human being, but it does mean we're something approaching a failure as a human being. If we can't draw these distinctions. Are we serving something higher or not? Or is just about emotional dopamine hits and I just really like this guy. We need to be citizens. And citizens mean getting uncomfortable. And Steve got uncomfortable and look, he found peace. That's what I've been telling you for a long time. You guys are anxiety ridden all the time because you're constantly seeking comfort. Do grown up things. This was a grown up thing.
A
That'll preach right there.
C
Do we know for sure that if Zach Lane wins tomorrow that he's going to go on to be the finest maha governor in the history of the country and forevermore. Amen. Nope. Do we know if Adam Steen wins tomorrow that he's going to go on to be the most powerhouse?
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No.
C
You know, you know how governor rules with an iron fist in the way that we want him. Nope. What we do know though is that Randy Feenstra can't even become governor. He's such a terrible candidate. What we do know is that Rob sand is running the Abigail Spanberger play playlist here or playbook here. And running as some sort of common sense middle of the road. I love Jesus and Carhartt jackets and boy howdy, be a hecking good person. Vote for me. He's running that playbook and he's going to govern as a far leftist he is. And he has the benefit of not really having much of a record to point out because he's been the chief nerd of the state of Iowa. This is about doing the next best step now. We can deal with the fallout and deal with the whatever eventualities come from this. This was about doing the best next step now. And that's all that we can do.
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We'll come back. My good friend Bob Vander Plaats is going to join us when we do. Stay tuned. The steve day show. Back here on the Steve Day Show. And I forgot to mention this at the top of the program launch week for my new book, why Independence Day America is Great Because God is Good. The conclusion of my trilogy on America for children on America's Christian heritage. Launch week was incredible. I mean we got as high as number 286 overall. That's out of 32 million books on Amazon. Right. And my marketing budget is you guys. And my contact list. That's. That's the budget. It's very complicated publicity process here on the Steve Days program. So we are one of the best sellers among all new release children's books in the country. We're the number one best selling Christian children's book in the country. We're in the top 50 of all best selling new releases of all genre books in the country. I mean you guys, you guys did an incredible job. And because I just want to see it again, in case you've forgotten, here's a preview.
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Every Fourth of July, we light up the sky. We wave our flags, we celebrate. But if your kids asked you why, could you tell them the real story? It's a story that starts 3,000 years before 1776. A story most people have never heard told this way. A miracle in the desert, A miracle on Christmas night. Commandments called carved in stone, A constitution written on paper. What's the connection? This 4th of July, give your family the story they've never been told. The one that explains everything.
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So if you've not yet gotten your copy in time for America's 250th birthday, it's available right now@Amazon.com we're up to about a couple dozen reviews already as well. We need those too. So if you've gotten your copy and you really enjoyed it, if you'd leave us a five star review at Amazon, we'd appreciate that. But thank you guys so much for such a successful launch. Let's keep the momentum going. I think it's a very important book. And listen, I'm not going to get rich off of this. It's hard to do that with books nowadays, especially children's books. The illustrations and everything, they are a higher cost, higher margin than a typical book. So this is really most of all about getting the message out. We have skipped a generation in America of telling this story to our children, passing this heritage and legacy on. And so this is an opportunity to help you do exactly that. Get your copy today, please. Why Independence Day? America is great. Because God is good. And thanks to the thousands of you already who have have gotten your copy and gotten us off to such a strong start. And don't forget those reviews. We need those too. So thank you. Let's bring in our good friend Bob Vander Plaats. It's good to see you again, brother. How are you doing?
D
Really well. And congrats on the book, all the success with it. And I know it's a children's book, but I know a lot of parents and even grandparents who need to read that as well. I've heard that a lot will be impacted by the book as well. So go out and get it.
A
I've heard that a lot. Thank you very much. All right, so about this time on Friday, out of nowhere, we get an endorsement in our gubernatorial race after the President had been silent this entire time. And I discussed with our audience before you came on. So you didn't hear any of this, but I discussed with them the turn of events that led me to doing something I've never done in my entire career, which is the video that I put out over the weekend and this endorsement and the timing of it. Nothing's really changed. If anything, Randy Feenster, whom the president endorsed, is a significantly weaker candidate than he was when this primary even started. His negatives have gone up about 20 points in proprietary polling that I have seen. He is way down to Democrat Rob sand. And every general election survey, public or proprietary, that I have seen. And so you have to ask yourself, what changed? And I explained to our audience what changed is a Maha guy named Zach Lane was about to win the Republican nomination for president. And I think this gets into some intern fights we're having as a party right now, and that the president, frankly, is on the opposite side of his base right now on both AI data centers. And also the Maha stuff. Most of his base across the country would be much more where Zach Lane is. Right. So I think that's what prompted this endorsement was it was specifically to say, we don't want that as the head of the party in the first of the nation caucus state. So I want us to analyze things about where this means, what this means politically here in the final day, because we have a fascinating dynamic where I would argue the most popular politician in Iowa is the President of the United States.
D
Without question.
A
And he has been a huge. I know if you live in a state with a lot of suburbs, he's made you sweat a lot. But in our state, we have a lot of rural. And he's been great to us. I mean, the president, as I've said many times on this show, Bob, was the missing link of how we got rural Iowa to stop just like agreeing with us on issues but actually voting with us in partisan elections.
D
Exactly.
A
Because they viewed the president as someone who stuck up for them, was not your typical Republican trying to take their land kind of thing. Okay. And so what I will be. But they're also the ones, by the way, too, because I kind of say by the way a few more times. They're also the ones that are paying the heftiest price for the Iran war. It's those rural Iowans that are paying the 650 a gallon for diesel. They're the ones paying the steepest price for the tariffs because it's their exports that are getting tariffs on. Right. So there's a conflict here. They. They clearly love and adore Donald Trump, they're also being disproportionately impacted by some of the policy fights that we're having right now, some of the, the high end issues. They also don't like Randy Feenstra because he's funded by all the elements that are trying to take their land away from them. Right. And I will, I have. This was going to be very fascinating. It's basically a two person race in our state and I don't really know what is going to happen because now we have the, you know, the unstoppable force and the immovable object which is Trump's agenda versus Trump's personality. And Zach Lane represents what people think Trump's agenda is. And then Trump's personality is saying, I'm actually with the other guy who does not. And I'm going to be very fascinated with how this is going to play out and I think it's going to make national news. Regardless. Your thoughts?
D
Well, I think you summed it up well. And first of all, the fascinating thing is I've never seen a primary like this before in my life on any level. Obviously, to be transparent and clear, the family leaders endorsed Amstein. I've endorsed Amstein. I'll be voting Amstein. I still think Amstein's the best prepared and the best equipped to be governor and probably the best equipped to even beat Rob San. And all my intel, all my spidey senses was Donald Trump was staying out of this governor's race. It was very clear he's not a fan of Randy Feencher's. When he came out here to the state of Iowa before the Iran war and before, when the gas prices were like 2 bucks a gallon, he had everybody with him. But Randy Fincher didn't speak at anything. Kind of like sending a message. I am completely out of this race. So Friday afternoon, I was shocked, out of the blue, shocked that he decided to insert himself on a Friday afternoon before the Tuesday election. And for a candidate like Randy Feaststra, because usually when Trump gets in the endorsement game as a candidate, you need to show you got the mighty Mo behind you. Your numbers are going up, your fundraising is going up. Everything looks like it's going the way it should be. And I'm going to come behind you and getting you over the finish line. In this case, Randy's money is drying up. In this case, he's half of his high water market, 24%. The last poll that I saw. The only thing that changed is that Glean over overtook Randy Feenstra. So that's got to tell you that there's some fear within, in our base that got to the ear of the President saying, you can't have Zach Lane beat Randy Fincher. And part of it is Steve, and I know this from being a candidate, an outsider candidate. Outsider candidates in Zach Lane, in Adam Steen, they are a threat to the system. And the reason they're a threat to the system, just like I was, we don't owe you anything.
A
And the President was, yeah, we just
D
don't owe you any. That was one of Trump's biggest selling points. I don't owe you anything. I'm going to come in, I'm just going to lead with Randy Feenster. I think the logic there is he can be controlled. He can do what you ask him
A
to do, as he has demonstrated, frankly, throughout his political career, statewide and also in Congress.
D
So I think, you know, the fascinating thing is going to be, you know, what happens here? Who does it help? Is it a message really against Zach Lane that could even prop up in Adam's team? Is it a deal where it pushes Randy Feast over the finish line? He gets above 35% and he owes the President everything. However, all the general election polling, besides not electing a congressman ever to the office of governor in Iowa, shows he gets killed by Rob Sam. So primary night is going to be in. Yeah, I think, fascinating. What happens. Does Randy Feenstra break through and win it outright on Tuesday night? Does Zach Lane break through and win it on primary night through 35%? Or does this thing go to convention? And Adam Steen's got the best leg at that time at convention, at least on the first ballot to assume or to get most of the vote. But then what happens after the first ballot? And if you've ever been to a convention, all bets are off. Nobody knows what happens after that. And how much does the White House want to play in a convention if it got to a convention, which right now I think the chances of convention are less than they were before the President endorsed.
A
Because the main reason there was a strong chance just to explain that to people, the main reason there was a strong chance is because the so called front runner was so anemic.
D
Yeah.
A
And that, that balkanized or democratized the field. I think, I think we have no idea what, what Trump's endorsement will do to Randy Feenstra's ceiling. I think we do know though, it stopped his floor because I will tell you, five minutes. If you had asked me this five minutes before the President endorsed, I would tell you. There's as good a chance Randy Fincher is going to finish third as there is that he's going to win outright.
D
That was my tweet that, you know, don't be surprised if Feature doesn't play,
A
because Feature people are voting for Feenstruck. Well, he's the guy. No, the Front Rotor. Typical gop.
D
You know, I saw his tv.
A
Exactly. And so if suddenly you're, you're looking at polling that shows he's. He's collapsing, well, his would be the vote. That'd be the least likely. Well, if he's not going to win anyway, I got other stuff to do. I got a golf game. You know, there's something on Fox News. I got something else to do. Right. Okay. So now I think we do know that Feenstra's ceiling collapsing or feet or floor collapsing is not going to happen. I think that's.
D
We do know that he'll be stabilized by the endorsement.
A
He'll get somewhere now for sure between at least 25 to 30%. I think that's pretty obvious. How much? I think what we don't know is, is how much north of 30 is he going to get. And I think that is. That's the great unknown. Okay. And, and I think, and that, that comes back to what I said a minute ago in my analysis, which is what happens when love of Trump as a brand runs up, runs against the fact that he's endorsed very publicly against his own agenda. Now, we've seen Trump endorse against his own agenda before, but a lot of times it's early in a race, but the other person is still somewhat well liked. He's really never endorsed this late against a candidate as damaged as Randy Feenstra. There's not a lot of Runway for folks that just understand our state. We have one top 100 television market in the whole state, and it's barely in the top 100. Right. There's not a lot of great media here. There's not a lot of earned media here. You know, we're not even really sure what national media people pay attention to because Zach Lane, early in this process, got on both Sean Ryan shows and Tucker Carlson shows. Even those are huge audiences. Particularly Sean Ryan didn't move his primary numbers at all. So we don't really even know where people go for their information. And we don't have a. There's a. We're. We're flying blind here, guys.
D
So. So, Steve. Flying blind. But anecdotally. So when I saw that and I got back to our team. And I said, all right, how many votes does this move from our base? Because Trump weighed in on Randy Feinstra, and they said, zero. We don't know one person that's going to flip from Adam Steen to go to Randy Feenstra because Trump just weighed in. Two is a. A very visible face on grassroots level is a lady by the name of Barb Heckey. And Barb Hickey would be.
A
There's a Barbara Pecky in every state in America.
D
She'd be a champion of the MAGA movement. And she went out and talked about how much she loves the president, but no way, absolutely no way will she follow suit and vote for Randy Feaster basically called on everybody in MAGA to defy that endorsement and to vote for. She's going to vote for, I think, Eddie Andrews before Eddie Brad, Adam Steen, Zach Lane, but not Randy Feenstra. And then I talked to neighbors and neighbors who love Donald Trump and everything that Trump's doing. I said, are you going to vote in the primary? And they said, yes. And I asked them for who, and they said right away, they said, we're voting Zach Lane. And I said, but you guys love Trump. They said, we are not voting Randy Feene. I think the cement has set around Randy Fingstro. The big thing's going to be now, does this propel the Zach Lane surge that we had been seeing, or does it propel the turnout game? The best organized, I think, effort in Adam Steen to get out that vote, or does it even take away from Adam Steen's vote because people are coalescing around Zach to stop Randy? There is so much.
A
Let me throw. Let me throw another variable that just, just occurred as we were talking. Okay. Iran has released a statement saying it's ending negotiations with the U.S. the U.S. just announced that it's now back to blockading the Strait of Hormuz in response
D
to that announcement, which means oil prices are going back.
A
So what was I just saying? I. I literally asked these guys. I was kidding with them as we came on. Hey, when we saw gas decline, get under $4 locally here for the first time in two months, guys, go and fill up. Because I did. Yeah, okay, I was. I did. I did, by the way. But I'm just kind of half joking now. I'm like, that was actually prophetic. Okay, so we're back to that same argument again. How if diesel is 750 a gallon tomorrow in rural Iowa, how many people are how many? Because that's Trump's base In our state, that is his base, right? If diesel 750 a gallon, you're like, you know what? And on top of that, I'm gonna make a. I'm gonna spend more gas to go vote for Randy Feenster. At my polling, I don't know the. I see these are. There's a lot of variables at play here that I will be fascinated to see how they play out. I truly don't know.
D
So what I did, because in every state, there's pockets where you'd say, boy, that is Trump country. And in Iowa, that is southeast Iowa. And as northwest Iowa, that is Trump country. So southeast Iowa. I called a guy that I think is probably the best pulse in southeast Iowa, Troy Charman. And Troy Charman's the county chair for abstinence. Said, Troy, tell me what this does. He goes, bob, I don't know of anybody. And he goes, I mean, anybody voting Randy Feenstra. And he goes, I guarantee you no one's going to flip from Adam to Randy in southeast Iowa. He goes, and I see people voting for Zach. I don't see them flipping from Zach to Randy. Same story up in Northwest Iowa. They don't see the flip. They don't see the surge. They love the president, but Iowans are also very independent. They like to have their voice heard.
A
They.
D
They don't like to be told what to do. And again, I think the cement has set around Randy. And the reason I believe it has set around Randy, because Randy ran the campaign that Randy ran. Basically, I'm going to do a Biden campaign. I'm going to avoid all the people, and I'm going to go after one vote, and that's Donald Trump's vote. And if I get that, I get to be the nominee without ever going to the people. I think the people are going to have a say tomorrow night on how does that work.
A
All right, we've got about a minute left. What do you think is going to happen tomorrow night?
D
You know, as you just said, it's going to be fascinating to watch. So it's hard for me to even predict what's going to happen tomorrow. I believe there's probably a 1 in 5, 1 in 4 shot that could go conventional. But that means Adam Steen really needs to pull real numbers, Zach needs to pull real numbers, and you need to keep Randy below that 35 or 2. I believe Randy could get bolstered by the president. I mean, for all those of us who thought President Trump didn't mean a whole lot or wasn't going to win and say 2024. He proved us wrong there. So maybe Randy does go through or the Zach Lane surge is real and he pulls through tomorrow night. So I know that's a not definitive answer, but I think that's what we're dealt with today. See if the turnout game of Adam Steen can match the surge of Zach Lane to keep Randy below 35.
A
You guys have a thought before we move on to the questions in 30 seconds or less.
B
I'm just concerned. A fellow con, a congresswoman that we know said she went walking door to door, said just nobody even knows who's running right now. That to me, that Randy, that benefits Randy Feenstra.
A
Aaron, what do you think, man?
C
I'd like to say I know, but I, I don't know. I kind of like Zach's chances tomorrow night. Kind of do.
A
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C
Part of the faction of Islamic eschatology where only 30% of the planet needs to die instead of 33%.
A
So more moderate, therefore, by comparison, I don't know what a more moderate member of AK of the party of Mahmoud Ahmed Ajad is, but he was supposedly it. He resigned the irgc, which is the Revolutionary Guard. Those are the zealots. That's the. Those are the. The terrorist cells essentially masquerading as an army that they may be in charge. There were reports of this last night. Well, that's been followed up today now by Iran saying it is ceasing negotiations with the US and it's fired missiles at at least five different nations so far today. The US now is blockading again. The straighter Hormuz. I'm tired, boss. I'm tired, boss. Here's my analysis. This is why I was against this from the very beginning. I don't believe there's any amount of threats we can make that they will negotiate. I'll just say it out loud. I don't. Because. Precisely because they're the demoniacs that we think they are. I don't think there's any level of threat. So we're at. Here's the juncture. We're at come to hell home or send them to hell. That's where we are. And there's not a middle ground as far as I can see. A week ago we were told we were very close to a deal.
C
Friday there was a meeting to make a final determination on that deal.
A
Apparently correct. And that's probably why the IRGC took more control. They didn't want a deal to happen because again, of all the sectarian interest at play here. So we're at. This is where we're at. Just come to hell home or blow them back to hell. But you're going to have. We have to choose a lane now. Okay. Choose the Ted Cruz lane or the Oron McIntyre Lane. There's not a middle lane. I wish there was a middle lane. The president's been great at finding middle lanes all over the world, has he not?
B
Pretty good.
C
Yeah.
A
But sometimes some men just want to watch the world burn. Correct?
B
Yes.
A
Yeah. So here are the lanes. We have two lanes. There's not a third lane. The two lanes are. Take the Oran McIntyre option and just come the hell home. We've done enough. And focus on our own problems. Or the Ted Cruz option, which is if we're going to go in, then we have to finish the job. We cannot leave them in place. Will weaken our standing before the world, which could lead to bigger problems later. Who's right? Yes. They're both right. I don't know. That's why I don't run for president. I'm not qualified to navigate this. But I feared we'd come to this moment the entire time. And here we are. There are. You can't negotiate with everyone. There's just evil sometimes. And it has to be either uprooted or avoided. Oran says avoid it. Bruce says uproot it. Who's correct? Yes. At different times in human history, both of these options have been right. Correct? Yes. I. I don't. And I don't know which of these were which. Which of the junctures were at now. But it's why I thought this was a bad idea the entire time. Even though I believe every time a member of the Iranian high command dies, an angel gets his wings. Here we are. But we have to make a Choice now. Either blow them to hell or come the hell home. Those are the options. There's no more third way and there never was. Thoughts?
B
I don't know. A month ago I said, this is starting to feel pretty covety. And this just keep sprinting in that direction. I mean, Debbie Burks may as well be president of Iran right now, the way this thing is going.
A
Well, they, they, they turned that scarf into a burqa. But you're not wrong. Yeah, I hear you.
C
Do they have. Is it a ceasefire like illness over there, or, I mean, ceasefire like. Or is this a novel ceasefire?
B
I'm. This is perfect. Yes.
A
Oh, my gosh. Is it a novel ceasefire? Oh, my gosh. Hurting me, man. So then, are we all in agreement? Either blow them all to hell or come to hell home?
C
Yeah, I, I mean, yeah, either.
A
Either do not make our people pay $6 for a gallon of gas one more day, or do not allow this regime to live one more day. Choose one. Are we all in agreement on that?
B
Pretty much. Yeah. I don't.
A
And I honestly, at this point, don't even care what choice it is. There's, there's, there's, there's not this. Each choice is making the perfect, the enemy, the good. That's where we're at now. There are. None of these are great choices, in my view. If I thought one of them was, I'd take one of the positions. I, I, I, I just want us to take one of them. Okay. Declare the Oron Doctrine or the Ted Cruz Doctrine. But there's not a middle way. There's not. There's not. They're just gonna wait us out precisely because they're the demoniacs. They always have been. That's where we are. Prove me wrong.
B
Can't.
A
Here's the problem. You know who has to prove me wrong? The Iranian High Command, whatever that is. That's who has to prove me wrong. Because if you can't have a unilateral negotiation. Correct.
B
Right.
A
Has to be. Let me use the Dugan term du jour. It has to be multipolarity. Right. Must a negotiation be multipolarity? Correct. In this case, it's bipolarity. Okay, so, all right, you can't. You were never going to be able to negotiate with them. So please, Mr. President, not another day of everything's too damn expensive. Or not another day of thou shall not suffer an ayatollah to live. I don't care which day it is, but just pick one of those days. The in between here is we've all had enough. I think at least the three of us have. Can't speak for all of you. The three of us. Have we had enough? I've had enough.
B
We just keep toggling back and forth to various shades of P.
A
What a take. All right, let's get to it. It's your turn to ask me anything. We took questions this week from our audience over at X. I have not seen any of these questions. Todd has seen them all and then determined which ones we're going to answer here on the show. We'll get to as many as we can. Those that remain, we will do in the overtime today. You don't want to miss that. Here's how you won't make sure you're a subscriber to BlazeTV BlazeTV.com Days is where you can go use the code dace for the big discount. Code dace@blazetv.com dace Code dace for the discount to subscribe today so you don't miss our overtime or any of the exclusive content produced every day at the blaze blazetv.com dayscode days. Aaron, you have the questions. Let's fire away.
C
All right, we'll start up with Brad Callahan, who says, how does it feel to have mocked Floridians about life after Desantis? And now you are facing the possible destruction of your own state with his endorsement of female deanstra by your king. That was a heck of a sentence there.
A
Did I have I mocked. I am concerned about life in Florida after Desantis. I'm not mocking it at all. I'm concerned about it. So. But, but, but the spirit of what you have there is not untrue, which is why I did what I did. I have no idea what impact it will have. I just knew it would have some. And I knew that it was. It was a. It was an event of impact that I could. I could provoke that at least I would know. I did everything I possibly could. And so I am truly. You guys. You tell me you do you sense it? I mean, because I woke up yesterday, you know, like I almost felt like, you know, you know, it was almost Truman show levels of idyllic is how I felt getting my steps in yesterday morning. Like a huge weight had been lifted off me. You know, I. I'm walking on sunshine, Katrina. I am right now. I mean, I feel pretty good about however it turns out I did everything.
B
Yeah, you don't feel desperate or anything like that at all.
A
But you know what? While I think this is a little harsh, but the spirit of it, I think is not incorrect. You know, so. Okay. I mean, yeah, I'm worried. That's why I did what I did.
B
Well, there's a. There's a certain. I'm from. I'm a baby boomer. And you. You just cast my entire people under the bus, you know, emotionalism behind this. Like, I don't why you're taking this so personally. Do you want. It's like you. If you, if you think Ron DeSantis did really good things, aren't you even more concerned than Steve is? So why are you mocking him for his level of concern when he's actually got your back on the thing that ostensibly you're concerned about? Like, I don't.
A
I'm not even aware I've been mocking Floridians. I have no idea what that's even about.
B
I know. Well, no, it's because of the end. The King stuff. And I think this is just like a genera. A guy who's in a generation.
A
Oh, this is just a. This is a vessel for never Trumpism to continue.
B
If it's not about you something, you smashed one of this guy's idols somewhere along the line.
C
Okay, next up, we go to Christopher Malone, who says, what do you think the real reason Trump is endorsing rhinos like, is Daniel Horowitz, since he's backing the candidates that are pushed by big tech for AI. You agree? Or do you think it's something else? Obviously, the art of the deal is in play here because of his worldview.
A
I would say that's some of it now. I mean, Trump's been endorsing RINOs all along. This is not new. He did this consistently during his first term as well. He consistently did that in between terms, too. So before we had the big tech data center debates, Trump was already making terrible endorsements on top of making some fantastic ones. I mean, here's the. This is. In many respects, Trump's endorsement record is emblematic of the Trump era. It doesn't reach near the expectations of his most ardent followers. Talking points. At the same time, it's still better than anything we've gotten before. Is that fair? Yeah.
B
I mean, low bar, but yeah.
A
George W. Bush is never endorsing. Back to the previous post. Is Never endorsing Ron DeSantis for governor of Florida in a million years. Like, in a million years. That's never happening. You don't get Ron DeSantis, King of Florida without the Trump endorsement. So the upper crust of his endorsements are the most. Are the Best and most important endorsements we've ever had. But the total volume of his endorsements have been disappointing, for sure. But this is not a new phenomenon. It's been happening for a while. There's probably multiple motivations at stake. Some of it is just, you know. And let me give you what they could be in no uncertain order, and in any given moment, and depending on the race, the ratios may alter which of these factors it is. Okay, can the mo. Can the. Can the grassroots candidate even have a chance to win? I want to make sure I'm endorsing the winner because it makes it look like I have more leverage than I even already do, that I have this undefeated record because he understands politics is a game of leverage. Okay, is it. If I endorse this establishment guy, they'll give me a vote on something I want when they get into office and so a deal was cut. Is it I have public or even personal business interest in things like crypto or data centers. Is it that I'm talking a good game on a couple of issues, but I realized that I'm never going to be able to deliver on it politically. And so if I. If a candidate who actually believes my own talking points gets elected, it exposes that. So I'm better off with a more moderate establishment candidate winning. Blah, blah, blah. I mean, I'm sure you get. If we workshop this, you come up with a couple more scenarios and ones I just did. It's probably a variation of those themes and it just depends on each. Oh, I forgot. The most obvious one is has this person exhibited a great amount of loyalty to me or disloyalty, for example? So I think it varies from race to race as to which of those factors is a priority or the priority with the ratios of prioritization they are. But it's probably a collection of those things within that nexus. Kind of a cornucopia of motivations, I'd say.
C
All right, next up, we go to this from Milan Plump Fan. What is the logical explanation for Trump ceding his presidency to Susie Wiles and her corporatist pals? Anyone? Bueller. He's compromised in some fashion. Not necessarily. Epstein and I will die on that. Hill and Milan Plump Fan copies Daniel Horowitz.
A
Is there a reason that he would do that?
B
Do what?
A
Copy Daniel. I mean, is there. Is this the Daniel Horowitz show? I'm asking. I don't know why you would just do that.
B
The saltiest, considering the topic. Saltiest stuff. Right to the top, per your directions. Yeah, there you go, that's what they got. Those are the bullets they're firing. Well,
A
I mean, the Susie Wiles thing will be in the eye of the beholder. She also put together a way more professional campaign for the president in 24 than he had demonstrated in his previous two races. She also helped him assemble a cabinet that we were all, for the most part, raving about at this time last year. And some of the people that we were the most negative about, like Scott Besant, have actually turned out to be better than some of the people we were the most hopeful about. Right. She was also the Chief of Staff that helped the President launch that multi issue amphibious assault on several fronts that we all cheered last year. I know some of you want to believe everything in life is simple, and I would like to believe that, too, because it would make things, well, simpler. Okay. But. But human nature is very complicated. And if anybody's nature is very complicated, it's Donald J. Trump's. So I wish the world was as simple as you said, or you seem to think that it is, and your complaints aren't wrong. I just don't know what your alternative plan is. You know, we had a primary. I believe I exhausted every ounce of myself I could and said primary, did I not?
B
Yes.
A
Did primary not end?
B
It did.
A
Okay, so then once primary is over, then I have a choice whether or not I think that my conscience won't allow me to participate. And I've made that choice at times. And if you made that choice, I've never. I don't have any criticism for you. Or is the options presented to me one is morally, definitively so superior that besides my cautions and concerns, I'm going to align with it. And I made the calculation that it did, and I don't regret that calculation at all, knowing full well that eventually, because of the limits of Trump's worldview, we would come to moments like this and shows like this and discussions like this.
C
Right.
A
As upset as. I wouldn't even say I was upset, as frustrated, frustrated and bewildered as I was by Trump's endorsement of Feenstra, I would take that argument and bewilderment and frustration over what life would be like daily with President Kamala Harris every day of the week and twice on Sunday, you know, so some of you act as if there's some alternative I'm not partaking of. If there is, by all means, tell me what it is.
B
There is your mom's basement within an account.
A
Oh, okay. Well, that's a. That's. I guess it's an alternative. Ok, but if there's an alternative for, I mean, as negative as Daniel is on Trump, he still looks for individual fights. That's why he's frankly been fighting for Zach Lane in our own state primary for governor. Right. But, but ultimately, if you There is no other army for me to go enlist in. If there's not another army that is on the front lines of the battle for me to go and enlist in if I want to help save what's left of my country for my kids and grandkids. Is there another army somewhere that you
B
guys know of in this basement with an anaconda? They have amazing uniforms, Steve. Have you seen them?
A
Is there some transcendent movement of the church that is apolitical, that is standing up for moral righteousness? What is the army I could go enlist in, that would, that would be less frustrating and less bewildering. Are you aware of said army? Because I am not. I don't know what other. So I guess my options are to just bitch and moan and complain and just have my kids and grandkids inherit an absolute mess or go fight in the army that we have. I don't know of another army and this is the army that we have.
C
All right, next up, we will go to this. It is Nathaniel Marion who says while on your capital tour with Mike, pure manifestation of the last 30 years of Republican Party Johnson, did you ask him why he stopped the abolition bill in Louisiana? If not, will you ask him at the Family Leadership Summit in July? This is from End Abortion now, some interview with an advocate of the abolition bill in Louisiana.
A
So I wasn't even aware of what went on in the state of Louisiana with the abolition bill. But let me give you a political truth you won't want to hear, but that's what I do. You guys don't merit the level of political capital expenditure that you think you do because you haven't managed your own political capital well. And you know what? I wasn't going to do this, but Todd, if you're going to throw a question like this in front of my face, then I'm going to do it. There are reasons Adam Steen is in the position he is in as a candidate. It's not enough to be spiritually correct. The guy who jumps out of an airplane without a parachute might be a five point Calvinist, might know Calvin's teachings better than Calvin without a parachute and preparation for landing, he's going to die just the same. This is a vocation. Some of you act as if in no other venue, you'd never go to a car lot and say, I'm just going to trust. In fact, I'm going to pray and trust that the car that is perfectly affordable, within my budget and will never break down, the Lord will just drive it right up to me. You'd never do that. You'd vet interest rates, you'd vet the car lot's reputation. You drive the car. You'd go to the bank to see what loan you're cleared for. What's your current car? If you have a trade, in what it's worth. You do your homework. You do your homework. In any other venue, you would. Some of you act so, you know, you guys are the opposite of the grifters, where you act like the grifters, all they care about is the process. This is like. This is like the preface of the Screwtape letters come true. Be neither the magician nor the materialist, as Lewis warned. So the materialist is the grifter, just here for a seat at the table, just here for clicks, just here to see what's trending and to align myself therein. Soulless, essentially. Then there's the magician. Well, to take part in the vocational part of the process makes me just a terrible person. Even though you wouldn't say that about any other industry that you would take part in, any other product you would think of consuming. If I said, you know what I was gonna buy? I was gonna, what is this? A Dell laptop? Yeah, I was gonna buy a Dell laptop. I committed to you. I was gonna buy a Dell laptop. But then I did a little more research and I found Lenovo actually made better laptops and they were cheaper, and I decided to buy a Lenovo. Would anybody come to me and say, sell out, grifter. You told me you're gonna buy the Dell. Would anybody do that? Would anybody do that? How retarded does that even sound? Tell me, how retarded does it sound?
B
Very.
A
In fact, if I went online and said, you know, I was gonna buy Lenovo, you need to know. I mean, I did all the research there is. I did it all. Lenovo is the best possible laptop out there in terms of capabilities and affordability that I could find. But just so a handful of you won't get your feelings hurt, I'm going to buy the Dell instead. Everybody would think that's the most thing they've ever heard, right?
B
Yes.
A
So why does that not apply to political candidates or political causes? Does anybody understand that this is a vocational process, presuppositional apologetics do not apply here. That's not the process here. We're not doing evangelism here. We're making policy. Presuppositional apologetics doesn't apply to mechanics, doesn't apply to your orthodontist, doesn't apply to your plastic surgeon. It applies to a. It applies to evangelism in that vocation. And the truth of the matter is, I mean, I have been very critical at times of Mike Johnson on this program. Has Mike Johnson done something bad in the last week since I went on this trip that I just completely and totally overlooked because he, he invited me on a trip and I took it? Am I unaware of something terribly he's done in the last time?
B
I'm aware.
A
And I just completely just let it go because I got a chance to meet him. In my, in our, in my entire career, all the years you have worked here, Todd, have you ever seen me pull a punch about someone I met because I liked them when they were obviously doing something terrible?
B
Absolutely not.
A
Which is one of the reasons why you've seen me have a lot of relationships come and go. Because I won't do that, right? So with that being said, you want it? You want, you know what, you want to come at me? I'll give you what you want. I'll come right back. Mike Johnson's done more for my worldview than most of you have done in the last year. And that's despite my complaints, and that's despite his fault. Learn the process. Learn how it works. Learn how to manage people. Learn how to move people, not just declare things. This isn't Five point Calvinism applied to politics. That's not how this works. That's an event. That's a sodorological construct. This is a political one. This is a different realm, a different vocation. There's different rules of engagement. You know what? Test your theory. Why don't you just go ahead and do pre evangelism apologetics to the Iranian high command. Just do that to them. I'm sure it'll convince them they're part of the elect or not, right? Stop. I want you to win, but I've just had enough of this. You guys aren't good at this. And you've only gotten as far as you have because you're actually principally right. Not from like any of your own ingenuity whatsoever. In fact, you're, you're cutting yourselves short. You should be way further ahead by now. Way further ahead. What's the pro life alternative to your message? Do you even know what that is?
B
Aaron?
A
Do you know what the pro life alternative is to the abolitionist message in America right now? Do you know what it is?
C
No idea.
A
No idea. What's the pro life agenda like anywhere? Does anybody know what that is? What slate of bills are in anybody's legislature, general lineup in Congress? Apparently I don't know what it is. You guys have not. The only reason you haven't won yet is you. And someone needs to tell you that, and I'll gleefully nominate myself for that job. Did you line up these questions on purpose? Were you like, you know what, you're at peace now and I need to disrupt that? Is that why you did this?
B
First of all, your role has always been put them to the top. And actually that's a rule I tend to ignore. I just kind of keep them in order as I find them. But, Aaron, as I've often congratulated you for the way you purposely and intentionally conceive of your montage, I took your lead, Aaron. I absolutely did this on purpose. And I did it to get exactly the reaction I got. And I'm congratulating myself for that because we all needed that. You needed that. I needed that. The audience needed that. The Anons in their mom's basement absolutely needed that. Thank you.
A
I want America to know I came in here a man at peace. And I was as recently as even. Well now 24 and a half minutes ago.
B
Now I'm a man at peace.
A
Well, I'm glad you're satisfied.
B
Well, that was quality programming.
C
I think America needs this from Tim the Hoosier, who says, can we expect Todd Erzin and Connor Stallions to perform I gotcha, babe. At the America 250 celebration in place of the canceled artists like Sonny and Cher.
B
That I dare you to do, babe.
A
You know what? I gotta be honest, man. That's better than what the President's currently planning. Let's just have a Trump rally. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Please tell me that's a troll. It probably is. Or at least it's going to be accompanied by more than just some 90 minute riff. We can't. No, no, we can't do that. All right. How is this so hard to come up with a compelling program for the 250th birthday of America?
B
See, you can't blame me. Even though you thought that was a little depressing right out of the gate. Is it getting better? I had. All the options are bad.
A
Steve, just go get all the musicians that have ever endorsed the President. All the comedians that have ever endorsed the president and give them a show. How do I. Why do I have to tell the Trump administration to do patronage to their supporters? Explain this to me. What are we doing here?
B
Does Randy Feast play an instrument?
A
I'll not answer. I'll stop the Steve Day Show. Hey, time for some life talk. Life insurance, that is, you probably have it, but do you know how much you're really paying for it? How much you're really covered for? For odds are you're probably paying too much for too little. And did you know if you receive life insurance through your job. Pardon me. And you're unexpectedly laid off, you could suddenly be covered for nothing scary to think about. That's why you want to go to our friends at Select Quote. Because for over 40 years, select quote has been one of the most trusted brokers in insurance, helping More than 2 million Americans secure over 700 billion with a B. $700 billion in coverage. Their mission is simple. To find you the right insurance policy for your unique needs. They shop so you can save. And unlike other one size fits all life insurance companies, select quotes licensed agents, they work for you and they do it in as little as 15 minutes. They'll compare policies from top rated carriers to find you the best fit for your health and your budget. And by the way, they work for you for free. No medical exam, no problem. Pre existing condition. They've got providers that can help you with that as well. So get the right life insurance for you for less. Save more than 50%@SelectQuote.com Steve that's save more than 50% on term life insurance right now@SelectQuote.com Steve to get started today@SelectQuote.com Steve. All right. Hopefully we have less. You know what? No, I'm being a hypocrite. You're right. I do ask for the snotty questions.
B
You do. I save you from that usually.
A
You know what I just think I wasn't prepared because I usually don't get this many snotty questions. So my bad. You know what? Everything I've said is fundamentally what I think. I probably should have just said it nicer. Does it make people feel better, you think?
B
Or it wouldn't have made me feel better.
A
No. Let me try it again with the abolitionist folks. I agree with you. I want you to win. You just got to do a lot better. Gotta do better. I believe in you. You got this. You're gonna have to be a lot more Armenian in how you do politics. That's all I believe in you. Is that better? Is that a better answer?
B
I was. I mean, it wasn't bad, but I enjoyed the first time.
A
All right, let's keep going.
C
We go now to way too comfortable dream or way too comfortable memes for Todderson's dreams. Who asks, how do we discipline the Republican Party without withholding our vote and being accused of being too comfortable by Todd Erzin? Can't we endure Democrats in office to send a message to the Republican Party when they refuse to abolish abortion, for instance?
A
Well, first of all, he's citing you. Would this be your position if someone said, because the Republicans aren't doing enough on abortion, I don't think you'd sit there and say, okay, I mean, cool. You vote your conscience. I mean, yeah. I mean, you'd probably ask that person, what are you doing to be pro life yourself? Is this just something you post about online? I mean, do you donate? Do you volunteer? You'd ask them, how pro life are you really?
B
Correct.
A
All right, but if. But if they're really pro life and this was their, you know, line in the sand. I mean, I've known Todd Erzin for 20 years. I don't think someone who's decided that they're a hardcore activist and I'm not compromising on this, you view that person as very comfortable.
B
You're my. No, you're my people. I mean, I agree. Yeah.
A
So let me just say this, though. There's no disciplining of the Republican Party. Get that out the window. Live in the world that we're in. All right? So that's just not going to happen. We don't have the money. So everybody, you make up your own mind whether the differences between the two parties is good enough. Vote for the best candidates you can, particularly when they have a real chance. But this idea that there's going to be some disciplining. No, there won't be any. That's fanciful. That's just not how the process works.
B
A lot of you people, to connect all the dots Steve has connected, A lot of you think you're being principled. You're really being utopian.
A
That's a key distinction. Explain.
B
Well, I'm echoing what you said. You're making the perfect the enemy of the good.
A
Now, let me say this. Most of the time, when people hear that, though, they said that to people like us for why we don't compromise more, Right? And now here's one of our listeners asking us to compromise less. Right?
B
But it all depends on. Is Compromise. Something worth considering as a question to get the best possible deal? Yes. As Steve just laid out, that's a general principle as it applied specifically to what Steve just did with Iran. Can you compromise with demoniacs? No. So you've got to be nimble about this. It isn't simple. It is nuanced. You have got to. Sometimes it is as simple as one plus one equals two. Sometimes it is calculus, and I don't. But your utopian sensibilities off again behind a non accounts with no level of demonstration or concern that you are authentic in any way whatsoever other than kneecapping people for laughs. You, I don't know the world, our life that you claim to have our faith. Life demands sacrifice. And you aren't sacrificing if you're anonymous and demonstrating that the bar is a utopia that you never, ever, ever even tried to claim you actually meet. All right Principles always, always, always require sacrifice, you utopians out there. Almost always. Almost almost always always. Never show your bearing, any of it.
A
That doesn't mean there's never a time to not participate in what you viewed as a flawed structure.
B
It.
A
And this might even be the time for you not to do that. All right. I think it's in Colossians 2 when Paul talks about Let me look it up to make sure I'm getting it right. One second. Colossians 2. I think it's 16
B
here.
A
Here it is. I'm right. Colossians 2. 16, 2, 17. Therefore. That's 17 in there too. Let me see. Therefore, let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to festival or new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. All right. In other words, we are going to have plenty, plenty, o gray area disagreements about how to live in a dark world. How do we live principally in a fallen world? How do we live out what we believe in a world that wants to hate us for believing it? Do we keep the Sabbath on Saturday because that's when it originally was? Do we move it to Sunday because that's apostolic tradition? Do we even have to keep a Sabbath at all? Is it a metaphorical thing? Okay, here's the thing. But this is the main thing. Does the choice that you make on these moments or at these moments draw you, make you more Christlike and more interested in God's word? If the answer is yes, I'm not here to condemn you. Right. Because he's not advocating for something that's immoral.
B
Right, Right.
A
Neither are we. All right, so if it's. If someone's advocating for something immoral, then there's a clear. Can't go there, can't do that. But outside of those immoralities, there's all kinds of gray area here. Can you participate in this process as it is without having an impugn your conscience or disqualify you in your testimony? It makes you so angry that you are. You can't control yourself. It makes you shun others. It turns you into not the husband, father, or mother or wife that you want to be. Then this is not. You should not do it. Then.
B
Here's the problem. When you talk about just not voting to make a point. Listen, I'm out there in the world a lot. I see what it is. I don't. Maybe not with you, but with most people, it's not that they just don't want to vote this particular time. That's pretty much their default on being involved on any level. They find a reason not to be involved, which is then why you have the Republican Party you're complaining about here. A lot of dads are out there saying, yeah, boys should not be in girl sports. And then they fill the stadium and they watch, like, clapping seals and they complain about me as being too radical when the cops are coming after me. Well, they're only coming after me because I'm not making that excuse. I. I'm alone. And they realize they can circle the wagons on me. But if all the dads were just being dads on this issue and all issues and just saying no, it's we the people, and I think we're going to call the shots. But if you just always push away that obligation and then you're offered a really crappy choice at voting day, and now you're all high and mighty and utopian and principled with. I just don't think I can be involved in this. You've been involved in this the entire time by not being involved the entire time.
A
See, this is the difference. When I've not taken part in the process, it's because I did everything I could to not have this be the process so that this moment would not come. I did not passively allow this to happen to me. And that's what you're addressing. And we're not saying the person submitting this has not done that. We're just speaking as a. As a generality. But the reality is there are. There is going to be eras. You shouldn't listen to our show anymore. And it's not because we're blaspheming or doing things immoral. It's just because you can't partake of the content without it turning you into. Instead of conviction, you become spiteful. You see what I'm trying to say? You have to get away. And that's okay. I mean, over the years, numerous people have emailed me and said, I just think I need a break, man. And if. If you got a response, I guarantee you it was, you should take it. Then we take breaks, you know? So, yeah, it's okay. Much of our. Outside of moral extremes, a lot of this world, for the believer, is gray. We see through a mirror darkly. Right.
B
But most of the burnout isn't from getting too involved, which you're pointing out. It's correct. Let me reset it. I think I called her congressman, but a legislator, Iowa legislator. Our friend. We know Chichi was out there door knocking. Nobody knows what's going on in Iowa. That's inexcusable. It's not like you're too involved and there's too many. Good. No, you just.
A
You.
B
And these are Republican primary voters.
A
We haven't had a gubernatorial primary in Iowa. Yeah. In 16 years. They don't happen very often. We have the most Republicans in Iowa we've ever had, 750,000. We are looking at 25% turnout or lower. And it's the first gubernatorial primary in 16 years. So here we are.
B
That's a people problem.
A
Yeah. Next, one thing. So we're saying those people, the other 75% who didn't show up for this thing, don't come back to us later and say, I can't participate in the process. That's who we're talking, right? Yes. Just wanted to clarify that. Go ahead. Yes. All right.
C
Next we go to Ridgeline Path, who asks, have you considered scrapping fiction movie aspirations for a time and doing strategic documentaries instead?
A
No. There's all kinds of people. It's a good question. But there's all kinds of people doing fantastic documentaries, like my buddy Billy Hallowell, what he's done with CBN on the supernatural realm now and the latest one, Angels and Demons. There's all kind. We just did Stephen Meyer's the Story of Everything is what it's called. Right. There's a lot of people that have done that. I think I demonstrated in my first attempt here with a phenomenal team. I understand how to. We can execute fiction. We had to do that. And there is a dearth of that in our culture right now. And the truth of the matter is, if you go look at what draws the most box office, it's the fictional stories. It's not even close over the most absolutely compelling documentaries. So as a movement, we are excellent at documentaries. We reproduce a compelling slate of them every single year. We have got to expand our horizons into the fiction, original content, storytelling realm because there's just simply more eyeballs, there's more souls there. And so that's why that's my focus.
B
Did you hear that Elliot Page is playing Achilles?
A
Thank you.
B
Making your point?
A
Yes, exactly. Yeah.
C
Let's go to this interesting question. Aberration says, what are your takes on prenuptial agreements? I understand that on one hand, within a biblical worldview, marriages are meant to be for life with no concessions for divorce outside of infidelity or abuse. On the other hand, people are sinners and tend to respond to incentives than to what God's word said. And all the incentives allow for women to just at any time dip out of the marriage if she wants and take half of her man's stuff with little to no consequences. Would you say a case for prenups could be made if it is constructed in such a way to make a divorce as painful as possible for both parties in order to discourage it from ever taking place?
A
So if you look at New Testament ethics, right, Jesus takes the moral law where it was wrong to commit adultery, but then he takes it another level by saying it's adultery if you've lusted after someone else in your own heart. So he actually raises the ethical bar in the New Testament from even what was demanded in the Old the tithing. A lot of people think that you're kind of off the hook with tithing in the New Testament. I would argue the standard is higher. So there was a specific, essentially, you know, 10th. That's what tithe means, a 10th. Essentially it was a tax rate. It was a flat tax to fund the nation of Israel to both show faithfulness, but also to maintain the country, the priesthood, everything else, right? And Jesus, the New Testament takes the standard higher. Sacrificial giving. God loves a cheerful giver. It's better to give than to receive. So doing things on the basis of the spirit of them and not just the literal reason for them, is is the consistent ethical standard in the New Testament where now the spirit of God lives in us so we can go beyond just the extent levels of what our craven flesh is willing to tolerate. How does that answer your question? I would argue as a general rule, therefore, because of what I Just said a Christian marriage should not require a prenup.
B
Correct.
A
Because you're already acknowledging that the ethical bar has been raised because God is now coming to live in you. And so you should feel the standard is raised above you. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to say to never do it. I'll give you an extreme example. Right? Let's say your father is wealthy and elderly and widowed and a somewhat younger woman wants to come in at the last minute. You guys want to have those conversations as a family. That's your legacy. That's your heritage. I wouldn't, I wouldn't say no as an automatic, but the, the, as a general rule, I would say the disposition should be in a Christian marriage that it's not a requirement because we already recognize the ethical bar and standard has been raised by the fact that it is no longer I who lives, but Christ who lives in me. That fair? We never had this question before. I'd be curious, what do you guys think of that answer?
B
That's a good answer. I would also add you kind of show your hand in my estimation when you generalize women as what they tend to do. Instead of lifting up who women are in the eyes of God spiritually, you denigrate them. But that cuts both ways. What about men then? And why aren't you that? How could you fail this? I don't know. You just seem to be setting this up as the, the woman is bound to disappoint you. And again, that's not a Christian marriage.
C
Next up, we go to James Outen who says my wife and I raised our three girls to be Christian homemakers and moms. 37, 35, 31. The 35 year old is happily married with our two grandchildren. The 37 and 31 year old are still single. Where are the godly men of their generation? How do I encourage them?
A
Well, there's a lot of asking of this going around. Where are the godly women of this generation? Where are the godly men of this generation?
B
Both on the hook. Absolutely.
A
And I got, listen, I've got one married, I've got a soon to be 21 year old and a 19 year old. And we're having some of these conversations now as they head into this era. And I don't think there's any easy answers. I don't, and I don't want to sound trite, but in this case you're going to need some supernatural intervention because the laws of supply and demand simply, the inventory is just simply not there. After taking a generation off of taking almost anything that matters according to God. Seriously, so sad as that is, we'll do the rest of these in overtime for the rest of you. Go hard. Romans 8:28.
Podcast: Steve Deace Show
Host: Steve Deace (with Todd Erzin and Aaron McIntyre)
Date: June 1, 2026
Episode Title: Why Steve Did Something He's NEVER Done Before
Theme: Principled conservatism with a snarky twist; in this episode, Steve addresses major political developments in Iowa, the critical stakes of state and national politics, and his own unprecedented personal action in a primary race.
On this pivotal episode, Steve Deace abandons his usual format to provide an immediate, transparent explanation for a highly-unusual action he took over the weekend: publicly urging conservative voters to rally around a candidate—other than his own endorsed choice—in a crucial Iowa gubernatorial primary. The decision comes at a tense political moment, as Iowa’s internal battles and upcoming elections threaten to tip national political balances. Steve dissects political maneuvers, candidly admits his own thinking shifts, and invites analysis from his co-hosts and guest, Bob Vander Plaats.
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