McCarthy Was RIGHT: The Communist Takeover Is HERE | Guest: Keith Malinak | 6/26/26

Summary

Steve Deace Show — "McCarthy Was RIGHT: The Communist Takeover Is HERE"

Guest: Keith Malinak
Date: June 26, 2026
Podcast Network: Blaze Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Steve Deace Show features guest Keith Malinak (Pat Gray Show) joining Steve, Todd Erzin, and Aaron McIntyre to tackle the topic of the perceived "communist takeover" of America, referencing historical figures from Joseph McCarthy to contemporary left-wing politicians. The crew discusses ideological shifts in American society, recent election results—especially in New York, the rise of Islamist-influenced progressivism, and the decline of American cultural and moral confidence. Key conversations center on how conservatives should respond to these developments, with historical context and a snarky, sometimes dark sense of humor throughout.

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Main Discussion Themes

1. The State of Today's Left and the "Communist Takeover"

• Montage Analysis (03:22 – 06:57): The episode opens with a signature "Lord Nefarious says" montage: audio cuts of progressive politicians and influencers advocating for abolishing ICE, “freeing Palestine,” fluid gender ideology, and radical abortion stances. The panel reacts with dismay, viewing these as evidence of cultural and civilizational decay.
• Quote:
  "I always think of myself as a Christian who hates Christianity." (05:18, unknown speaker in montage)

2. Islamism and the Left — The New Power Bloc

• Texas and Islam: Discussion about the growing presence of Islam-influenced progressives, particularly in Texas, usually considered a conservative bastion. The group expresses alarm about mosque construction and what they see as a “falling asleep at the wheel.”

  • Quote (Keith Malinak, 10:36):
    “It would be convenient and too easy to lay it at the feet of Greg Abbott ... We've all just kind of fallen asleep ... We left the borders wide ass open.”

• Nostalgia & Cultural Defeatism (11:47 – 12:41): Brief comedic interlude about the He-Man movie as a symbol of middle-aged conservative dissatisfaction with pop culture.

3. McCarthyism Revisited — Was He Right? (15:10 – 20:21)

• Historical Audio: The show plays a 1950 Joseph McCarthy clip warning about a communist infiltration of the Democratic Party.
• Panel Consensus (16:25 – 19:25):
  McCarthy was “right, just early” – the current progressive movement is painted as the culmination of a long subversive strategy. The group acknowledges McCarthy’s errors (ruining innocent people’s lives), but argues his warnings about communism have come to fruition.
  • Quote (Keith Malinak, 17:30):
    “Absolutely, Joseph McCarthy was right ... he knew that there was communism in Hollywood, obviously in the State Department and Franklin Roosevelt’s administration ... He saw the big picture.”

4. What Should Conservatives Do?

• Action Steps (20:21 – 22:26): Panel calls for boldness, local activism, and unwavering confrontation of leftist ideology.
  • Quote (Keith, 20:32):
    "We have to be bold. We've got to call this stuff out."
• Collectivism & Drastic Measures (22:26 – 25:41): Aaron suggests “collectivism”—crackdowns on Antifa-type extremists, warlike operations in Democrat strongholds (hyperbole). Warns that communism and Islamism have merged as “antichristical” ideologies.
  • Quote (Aaron, 22:26):
    "The answer to what we do is collectivism. ... You have to make it abundantly clear that this sort of ideology ... will not be tolerated."
  • Quote (Aaron, 25:26):
    “Can you name me one ideology ... that is more godless, more antichristical than Marxism and Islamism?”

5. Progressive Overreach, Societal Backlash & The Future of New York City (26:14 – 30:27)

• The “Alternative Religion”: The left’s alliance with Islamism is cast as a full-on rival religious system—a “complete undoing of Western civilization.”
  • Quote (Steve, 26:46):
    "We're talking about an alternative religion ... a complete undoing of Western civilization."
• The Fate of NYC: Unanimous panel consensus that NYC is “gone for good,” barring radical intervention—though Steve speculates the left's pivot from scapegoating Jews to embracing Islam might prompt normie American backlash.
  • Quote (Keith, 28:11):
    “I don’t know that there’s much hope for that town.”

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Key Moments and Memorable Quotes with Timestamps

• Islamists and Texas (10:36, Keith Malinak): “We've all just kind of fallen asleep. We've just fallen asleep. We're too busy ... and we didn't hold our leaders accountable.”
• Panel lampoons 'Valley girl Islamianist' archetype (13:01–13:45):
  Multiple panelists mock the rhetoric/style of recent elected Islamic progressives, framing it as emblematic of a wider cultural rot.
• McCarthy Discussion (16:25–18:45):
  • Keith: “He knew the larger picture ... what he got wrong, it gets magnified, because he was enemy number one, trying to root out [communism].”
• Antifa Crackdown Example (22:26–24:59, Aaron):
  “I’m calling for collectivism, a collective 450 years in prison ... Drastic times call for drastic measures.”
• Religion vs. Ideology (25:26, Aaron):
  “Can you name me one ideology ... more godless, more antichristical than Marxism and Islamism?”
• New York Cynicism (28:11, Keith): “I mean, yes, that's a trifecta. I don't know that there's much hope for that town.”

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Issue Three: America’s Decline in "21 Words"

• Absurd Headline (32:28):
  “Female cop shoots Jewish rabbi outside Pornhub office in Canada while hiding from Marxist gunman who killed immigrant officer named Mohammed.”
  • Universally agreed as the “worst headline in Western civilization,” encompassing every modern social and moral crisis.
  • Quote (Aaron, 41:43):
    “This is the intersection of basically every single ism that ails us ... It’s a headline we deserve.”

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Societal Distraction and Apathy (36:33, 38:39)

• Americans’ Disengagement:
  Steve and Keith discuss how, even in the face of dramatic cultural or metaphysical revelations (e.g., alien disclosure), most Americans won’t care unless their comfort is threatened.
  • Quote (Steve, 38:39):
    “If they really want to make us care about aliens ... they’re going to have to land right there on the [NFL] field and interrupt one of the most watched events of the year ... that would get in the way of our comfort.”

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Listener Mailbag: Faith and Sexuality (75:01–94:31)

• Powerful Listener Letter:
  A listener confesses about struggling with same-sex attraction in a conservative, devout family, fearing for his soul and being an “abomination.”
• Hosts Respond with Compassion:
  • Emphasize: Temptation is not sin, identity is in Christ, seeking help and not isolation.
  • Quote (Steve, 82:29):
    “You are not a homosexual. You are a child of God. The first thing you’ve got to win is the war over your identity—your temptations are not your identity.”
  • Todd (89:24):
    “I don’t hear desperation. I hear a man flexing, quite frankly. Well done. Confessing your sins—it’s a must, you’re doing it.”
  • Aaron, quoting C.S. Lewis (92:21):
    “After each failure, ask forgiveness, pick yourself up, try again. ... What Lewis is talking about there is to depend upon God.”
• Recommendation/Ministry: Beckett Cook’s book A Change of Affection.

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Predictions & ‘Kicker’ Topics (43:40–48:15)

• Amusing discussion about foreigners in Dallas for the World Cup and the lasting impacts of immigration policies.
• Predictions about sports culture (Caitlin Clark suing WNBA) and the future supremacy of Grand Theft Auto 6 in gaming media.

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Conclusion

The episode blends gallows humor, historical allusions, cultural analysis, and urgency. Through wide-ranging topics—from McCarthy to Antifa, NY politics, Islamism, and existential societal malaise—the hosts plead for conservative activism, cultural engagement, and authentic Christianity. Listener questions spur thoughtful, compassionate responses, particularly on faith and personal struggles—showcasing the more pastoral side of the hosts.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:22] — Panel reacts to progressive/DSA montage: “Lord Nefarious says”
• [10:36] — Keith Malinak on Texas and cultural apathy
• [15:10] — Historic McCarthy audio and panel reaction
• [22:26] — Aaron on “collectivism” and enforcing consequences for radical actors
• [25:26] — Discussion: Marxism + Islamism as alternative religion
• [28:11] — “Is New York City gone for good?” (unanimous ‘yes’)
• [32:28] — America's decline summarized in one absurd headline
• [41:43] — Aaron’s breakdown on the collapse of virtue (“Every ism that ails us … headline we deserve”)
• [82:29–94:31] — Extended, empathetic response to listener struggling with same-sex attraction and faith

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Notable Quotes for Sharing

• “We have to be bold. We’ve got to call this stuff out.” – Keith Malinak [20:32]
• “Can you name me one ideology ... more godless, more antichristical than Marxism and Islamism?” – Aaron McIntyre [25:26]
• “You are not a homosexual. You are a child of God. The first thing you’ve got to win is the war over your identity.” – Steve Deace [82:29]

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This episode, rich in analysis and snark, is a reflective portrait of conservative anxieties and resolve in mid-2020s America, marked by humor, deep concern, and the ever-present call to faith and action.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

No, I don't know if that's a cross I can bear, brother.

[A]

Well, you are comfortable with the coattails,

[B]

but the whole thing, that's a lot, man. You're asking a lot.

[A]

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[C]

Great. Should I send an email to Pat Gray to have him send you a box of these cookies? I can hit send right now.

[A]

I just typed the email. I wouldn't hate it. I wouldn't hate it. I mean, we didn't have you on strictly for that reason, but I'll. I won't. I won't refuse the offer. No.

[C]

Done.

[A]

All right, thank you, sir. And so, Aaron, make sure our half of that transaction gets honored back to Keith, if you wouldn't mind. I have no idea.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

We're gonna let him talk for the next 45 minutes and not pay him. I think that's pretty much it. Yeah. Your weekly look at the week that was begins, as it always does, with issue one, Bleep. Lord Nefarious says, I think Democrats are the party of real freedom. Real freedom that allows women to make decisions over their own bodies, allows parents like me and my wife Lori to make decisions over what vaccines our kids are gonna be able to get that they can read the books that they want to read, not have certain one banned by certain polit. The point I'm making here is that we can be a pro freedom party and a pro growth party and so, like. And finding that, like, you know, the system of capitalism and racism and white supremacy, et cetera, have all. And Islamophobia have all been used, you know, to colonize lands, right? To take resources from other people. And so this is like a long trajectory.

[D]

And.

[A]

And we're just seeing the manifestations of that continuation, right? With 9, 11. The idea that we have to apologize for, like, a terror attack that, like, a couple people did, and then there is no apologies or reparations for genocides and for slavery.

[B]

Say, inshallah.

[A]

I know that we all deserve a representative who isn't bought by aipac. I'm also the only Muslim in my family. I reverted three years ago and wanting to make sure that we are reflecting that in. That I'm reflecting that in every space that I'm in. And that, you know, inshallah, if we make it to Congress, that we're reflecting that in the halls of power as well.

[B]

Say, inshallah, I have to work with

[C]

folks who have passed these policies that

[A]

threaten the existence of people that I love.

[B]

When I got elected, I went searching

[A]

for those monsters, right? I got elected to the State House. I was Like, I am ready to find these monstrous people who passed these,

[B]

you know, the show me your papers legislation.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's.

[A]

You know, I always think of myself as a Christian who hates Christianity.

[B]

Say inshallah. As their mayor, I firmly believe that ICE should be abolished.

[C]

Solidarity is the force that we need

[A]

to vanquish Trump's fascism to abolish ice. So are we ready to free Palestine? Are we ready to abolish ice?

[B]

Say inshallah.

[D]

Because I think it's a permissible action. I therefore don't see any good reason to infringe on a woman's bodily autonomy in the legal prevention of her access to abortion. Therefore, it's a human rights violation.

[A]

So you don't understand that it's like killing.

[D]

You don't think it's killing a human being?

[B]

No, I do.

[D]

And you're okay with that?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

I have friends who even today get

[A]

primary care through Planned Parenthood.

[D]

I myself, at a younger age received

[A]

pre. What's the word?

[D]

I get STI checks.

[B]

Say inshallah.

[C]

How many genders are there? You gave me a response, but you didn't answer my question. Yeah, well, I think that there's two.

[B]

If there's more than two.

[C]

About the results in New York last

[A]

night, you said, mom, Donnie was not

[C]

the future of the party.

[D]

Do you regret those statements? I think the future of the party

[B]

is

[A]

your next, Your next, your next, your next, your next, your next discussion. All right, let's get to it. Keith is the guest. You always get the first crack brother. What was the most reprehensible thing or person that you just saw and why? This is impossible.

[C]

Like, there are so many right answers on this. So I would say it's the conglomerate of the Islamianists who won on Tuesday night, but it's also the self loathing Democrats in the party like Talarico and Platner. So I know it's a cop out, but I'm just gonna say there's multiple answers here. I'm sorry.

[A]

Have the Islamists rebuilt the Church of the Holy Sepulcher yet, as they did throughout the Ottoman Empire, apparently. I'd learned that on the Tucker Carlson Show.

[D]

Have you done any reading about the. What happened to the Hagia Sophia during the Ottoman conquest? Have you, have you done any reading about that? Does that constitute his rebuilding?

[A]

I think that was greatly preserved. At their urging, correct? No, that's a conquer. Yeah.

[D]

Something a little bit different happened inside.

[A]

Okay. Ty, what about you? What was the most reprehensible thing or person that you just Saw. And why?

[B]

What were they saying at the end?

[A]

I was going to ask that too. What was that at the end?

[D]

That is a group. Did you notice? Did you see? They were all white people. Ye saying, you're next, you're next. When Hakeem Jeffries was on the television after the. During a watch party after the results

[A]

from the dsa, that's what I thought.

[B]

Well, there's a different version of your next and I'm just gonna put it right there in Keith's backyard because put the context of everything you just saw there and understand that it's not in California or Massachusetts, but in Texas where, like pound for pound, they're leading the nation in building mosques. Texas. And again, it's not. See, Steve and I are growing up.

[A]

Well, they're going to build a local iteration of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. And as their ancestors, the Ottomans, they're going to make sure to maintain it for us out of the kindness of their own hearts. Todd.

[B]

Yeah, see, we, you and I grew up there were terrorists hijacking airplanes early on and certainly we knew the history of that faith, but what had not yet happened. Is the rape gangs in England and the conquest actually happening where imams not aren't over there talking about the evil America, but they're actually in America and. Or England and threaten, threatening. We're taking it all over and. And yet Texas. Texas is the one in the. This montage. Aaron, Aaron, you. You didn't have to go like to the dark corners of the interwebs to put this together, right? This is like basically any week that ends in y, right?

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And here we are. So, Keith, glad tidings of great joy, right?

[C]

It's no longer just, hey, look at that cute little town of Dearborn where they're doing their thing up there. It' everywhere and it's major cities and it's terrifying.

[A]

Honestly, Keith, you're just going to let him sit there and blaspheme your native Texas like that?

[C]

Yeah, I do the same thing, man. It's a show. It really is. And we don't have all the time in the world, but I mean, this is playing out all across the country and Texas is just the latest domino to fall. I mean, I'm not the most cheery guy when you come on here, you know, you send me these questions and I was like, oh, boy, they're going to hate me yet again in so

[A]

how did this happen to your state, Keith? How did it happen to your state?

[C]

You know what it would Be convenient and too easy to lay it at the feet of Greg Abbott because of various reasons. One being that he's just a lazy governor and has no leadership skills. He's a follower. And. And then there's more nefarious suggestions that he gets money from certain individuals that are connected to that world. So I would say that this happened because collectively we've all just kind of fallen asleep. We've just fallen asleep. We're too busy working our asses off and paying our taxes on time and, you know, we didn't hold our leaders accountable. And so. Look who. Look who snuck in here. I was going to say, look who snuck in here. I'm sorry. We left the borders wide ass open. And then the consequences of it after decades of that.

[A]

All right, speaking of white ass open, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the odds there's ever going to be another he man movie, and 10 being the odds Lindsey Graham will be watching lots more man movies. Lots more. A lot more. Todd ranked this week's level of total depravity. What do you got?

[B]

Well, it's a 10, but I don't think your scale works. I think it doesn't matter. That movie sucks. I think the odds are pretty high that there's going to be another he man movie. Isn't there Quality doesn't matter. It's just middle age. It's just middle aged man nostalgia that requires it.

[A]

I don't mean AI slop gay porn. I mean like major Hollywood studio release.

[C]

That was a good movie. He man.

[A]

See, I haven't had a chance to see it yet, but I heard it was actually pretty good is what I heard.

[C]

Yeah, Todd is wrong, okay?

[B]

I'm more right than I saw your tweet, bro. Not just one. Many. Good grief. Have you seen it? I. That. That's a non sequitur. I am 53. I do not need to see he man. I do not want to see he man.

[D]

So he didn't see it.

[B]

He man. By definition. No. No. Kids care about it. This was just made for men who can't move on.

[C]

It was a beautiful movie. I loved it. Thank you.

[D]

I didn't get to make my nomination, so.

[A]

Aaron, you go ahead. I was just. I was just gonna let him go. You go ahead.

[B]

I didn't.

[D]

I didn't get to make my nomination for this week's worst of the worst.

[A]

Oh, my bad.

[D]

You notice this trend? The Islamianist Valley girl, Ilhan Omar fits the spill to some degree. Rashida Tlaib does A little bit. That one random Somalian talking about beans and bananas or whatever it was.

[A]

Bananas.

[D]

This is like, I don't, like, understand, like, why I need to be concerned about nine, like, gagny with a silver simtar. Like, I don't understand when, like, you guys have literally genocided us. I don't care that we killed thousands of you. Like, I mean, it's like I'm the victim here. I. What is this? What is this new archetype? I'll keep doing it if you want.

[B]

Don't.

[D]

Don't tell me you're annoyed. What do you want, Steve?

[B]

I hope you still have that sense of humor when she's holding a centaur over your head.

[D]

Oh, I hope so too. It's. It. I have a theory about this and we're going to talk about it next. And I think it's a pretty obvious theory and it's something I'm sure in different ways we've talked about, but that is the worst of the worst. The Valley girl Islamianist.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

The he man culture means of production.

[B]

The he man culture brought this upon us.

[D]

Inshallah.

[A]

That is gonna be in my head all day. Now that you've brought that up. All day I'm gonna be thinking about that. All right? I'm literally just gonna be just sitting in my house just inshallah. Gosh, I'm ruined.

[B]

I bet she loves He Man.

[A]

What's your. What's your scale of one to ten? Answer, Aaron?

[D]

Ten.

[A]

What is it?

[D]

Ten.

[A]

Keith, what's yours?

[C]

Yeah. Ten.

[A]

What's yours?

[B]

Ten.

[A]

All right, let's get to issue two. The commies are coming.

[D]

Mamdani. Media flexed its muscles this week in the Empire State with three Democrat congressional candidates from the New York City area backed by Islamianist Mayor Zoran Mamdani. Winning their races with two winning over Democrat incumbents. Mamdani endorsed former New York City comptroller and America hater Brad Lander against Representative Dan Goldman in the 10th congressional district. So called community organizer, anti Semite and America hater Avila Chevalier against Representative Adriana espiet in the 13th district and assembly member and America hater Claire Valdez in the open seat contest to replace retiring Representative Nydia Velasquez. Zoron went 3 for 3 with all three all but assured to be heading to Congress. Anyway, here's Senator McCarthy back in 1950.

[C]

I think we should keep in mind when we refer to Democrats, we refer to the administration that there are definitely two groups of Democrats as of today. Number one, there are the Millions of loyal Americans who have voted the Democrat

[B]

tickets,

[C]

individuals who are just as loyal, who hate Communism just as much and love America just as much as the average Republican. That's one group. On the other hand, there is that small, closely knit group of administration Democrats who are now the complete prisoners and under the complete domination of the bureaucratic communistic Frankenstein which they themselves have created. Ladies and gentlemen, they shouldn't be called that administration Democrat Party. To call them Democrats is an insult to the millions of loyal American Democrats. They shouldn't be called Democrats. They should be referred to properly as the commie crack party.

[A]

All right, first question. True or false? Tatters. And Joe McCarthy wasn't wrong. He was just early.

[B]

Oh, that's true that he wasn't wrong. He was just early. I mean, this is growing up and kind of figuring out, oh, the history books are actually not just divine writ. They're all written by somebody. And you get to put your spin on, you know, when those light bulbs start to come on as a young man. And this is one of the. And I'm interested to hear what Keith has to say since he's talked about it recently. But this is like one of the first exhibits in that story. Like I remember, like he. There was. You learned about Martin Luther King on one side as the good at an early age, and the bad. It was this guy, and he was absolutely. This has been an op, and he's been used the entire time to basically the mean, bad white guy who wants to make sure that nobody understands what's really going on. When the wizard is the. When the wizard of Oz is behind the curtain.

[A]

So, Keith, Todd, teed you up. Floor is yours.

[C]

Yeah, thank you. I was so giddy when I got the email from Aaron that had this question in it. I had just written something a couple of days before for a little history vignette I do on my show at the mic. And absolutely, Joseph McCarthy was right. And see, he. Well said he was just early, but he knew that there was communism in Hollywood, obviously in the State Department and Franklin Roosevelt's administration. Hell, FDR's closest advisor Yalta was a communist. And the delivery was what people were hung up on. He would call the. You just played a clip. He called the Democrat Party the party of communists. And I don't think much has changed, if anything, in the last 75, 80 years since he said that. But he saw the big picture. Where he messed up was he would accuse individuals and he ruined lives. I mean, that's a fact. Innocent people were caught up in his accusations. But he knew the larger picture. But what he got wrong, it gets magnified, obviously, because he was enemy number one, trying to root out.

[A]

It may have delayed.

[C]

Guys, him doing what he did may have delayed what we're experiencing now. I mean, there's a lot of variable factors, obviously, but a case could be made in that alternate history.

[A]

But yes, overall, in other words, by being aggressive so ahead of the curve and outing them, he forced them to slow the role and act more subversively and. And instead of. And do a much longer march to the institutions than they were currently planning at the time. You got it.

[C]

And history has these documents that have been revealed in recent decades with the fall of the Soviet Union and the Venona papers. I mean, McCarthy was right. Yes.

[A]

All right, Pretty definitive there from, from Keith. What do you think, Aaron?

[D]

Absolutely, he was right. And essentially what he's saying in that clip is that not all Democrats are communists, but all communists are Democrats, which is something that for the last 15, 20 years that you've been on the air, Steve, you could have said every day that ends in Y and twice on Sundays if you were on the air on Sundays. That's the exact same thing you could have said for the last 20 years. And I think it's right on the money. And I don't really know how much clearer it could be at this point, because not only are they not out of the shadow, not only are they out of the shadows, they are loud and proud about it at this point. And yes, they want to cover them or call themselves socialists. They want to call themselves those who stand in solidarity. Like that moron from New York said, solidarity means abolishing ice. They want to cloak themselves in a lot of euphemisms, but at the heart of it, they are communists. So he was right on the money, just ahead of his time.

[A]

Hmm. So if he's right and this is the time now, and he's ahead of the time, and we are in the time that he warned about, what do we do? Keith, I'll go back to you. What do we do?

[C]

Oh, man, I didn't know I had to have an answer today. What do we do? My goodness, we have to be bold. We've got to call this stuff out. I mean, this is what has happened. We got such a huge wake up call almost 25 years ago to the day, and what have we done? We've sat back political correctness. I mean, we, this conversation go on forever. But we have to call this stuff out. And we cannot we have to show up at our city council meetings and we have to make sure that our local. You see what's happening in New York City, that's going to happen in your town at elections if you're not careful. So be sure to make, make, make your voice clear wherever you are, because one little hub in Michigan has now become mad cow disease for the entire nation and it's infected very large population centers. So involved is what I would suggest.

[A]

All right, Todd,

[B]

I don't know what we spend more time on, on this show than this question. This is the Isaiah 1:5 question. Where would you yet be struck? What it is? What, what will it take for you to understand that being American is not a permanent vacation, that it actually, it's a call to duty as much or more than living in any other nation in the country as a, as a citizen. It's yours. We the people. What are you prepared to do? And it I, the answer is a lot more than you're doing now. And, and we also know that every time I say that, I just get a cringe because I know we're not really interested.

[A]

How would we show we're interested, do you think?

[B]

I mean, right now, that montage, we, and whether they're Islamic or not, we start deporting people left and right.

[C]

That's part of what, part of what I was about to say.

[D]

So I think the answer to what we do is collectivism. And here's what I mean by collectivism. The eight antifa members in North Texas who were sentenced to a combined collective, if you will, 450 years in prison this week. You have to make it absolutely, abundantly clear that this sort of ideology, and I know, I know they not, you know, not every single communist is violent. But what they're calling for is violence, though. Antifa is just a logical conclusion of what the communists, the Islamists have been calling for. That's, they're, that's what they're doing when you say abolish ice, okay, we showed up to the detention facility with guns and we tried to shoot a bunch of law enforcement officers. So I'm calling for collectivism, a collective 450 years in prison. That's, that's what I think we have to do. Here's what I think could be done after the midterms declaring war on New York City. You're going to. Do you think that Operation Metro surge in the Twin Cities was fun? We're going to make that look like, we're going to make that look like butterflies and Daisies. We're going to go and we're going to do a massive operation in New York City. That's what we're going to do. And I think this has to be done. It absolutely has to be done. Drastic times call for drastic measures. This is why I was saying early on in the rise of Mamdani, I don't want him. I want some political capital to be expended in New York City. Because I could. I kind of saw the writing on the wall. But when it became obvious that New York City was just. They were going to vote for him anyway, there was nothing that could be done. Then I kind of thought, well, maybe we can just. Maybe we can just confine this to New York City. But I do think something drastic needs to happen in that town to make an example. But I think what we're seeing here, the popularity of Mamdani, the popularity of DSA in that area, the reason why it's so popular. And you looked at all those people in the montage. You're next. The white people calling the black man. You're next. You're next. Interesting enough, these people have been brought up into a fundamentally antichrist, Christless, godless culture, a godless workspace, a godless society, at least micro society there in New York City. And I think what we're seeing now, this combination of communism and Islamism, these are two competing anti Christical ideologies. And when you've been brought up in a society that is fundamentally Antichrist, they can't even articulate it. It just fits hand in glove. That's why they're so, so popular right now, at least at this moment.

[A]

So if they're anti Christical, then that would mean that they are. It's a staging area that the economic theories, just as we like to say, America's not an economic zone. If it's anti Christical, then they're not merely, I should say, promoting an alternative idea of an economic zone or an alternative economic theorem. No, this is the introduction of a new religion.

[D]

Can you name me one ideology? And Islam is an ideology, one ideology that is more godless, more antichristical than Marxism and Islamism?

[A]

No, I don't think so. They're melding history of the world.

[D]

They're melding the two of these together.

[A]

Yeah. You have any thoughts on that?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I. The average New Yorker, they just. They picked their idol. I mean, yeah, I know this religion like dropped the two towers down on our heads and everything, but I still got the Yankees, you know, I still Got the Giants. They can't hurt me as long as I got that. So if I have to do a little. Oh, inshallah, I can do that. That's where we are. Well done, you. You made your bed, now you're going to sleep in it.

[A]

That's a pretty good New Yorker impersonation.

[C]

Awesome, dude.

[A]

Or at least a Saturday Night Fever impersonation. So, Keith, I got about three. I've got about three minutes here before the exit question. What we're really talking about then is we're talking about an alternative religion. That's really what we're talking about. Complete, right, Complete redefinition of who is God, what he expects of us, what's the nature of man, Therefore, what's the responsibility of the state and our responsibility to it. We're really talking about a complete undoing of Western civilization. Right? That's really what we're talking about.

[C]

Yes. Yeah. And that's the ultimate goal. Right. And I apologize. I don't know if you guys talked about Dasha Kilpatrick on your show this week. The young lady standing in the aisle of the heb, apparently accosted by two young Muslim women and then they hit record on their phones. She was doxed, lost her job, and then a fundraiser went out across the land, and they've raised over a quarter million dollars for her at this point. So I think that. I think Dasha spoke for all of us when, when she said what she said. And I'm not, you know, my apologies if people don't know the reference, but she just, she said what was on her heart about Islam and what it's doing to this country and was not, it was not taken seriously. We've never taken what they have suggested they want for Western society seriously. And now we're having. The longer we've put it off, the harder we have to fight to get out of this mess.

[A]

Exit question, true or false? New York City is gone for good. Todd.

[B]

Well, it's because with. I agree that the only alternative is what Aaron said before that. Unless and until that, yes, it is gone for good.

[A]

Aaron.

[D]

Unless what I suggested, basically declaring war on your city, state is off the table, then, yes, it's just gone.

[A]

Keith.

[C]

I mean, yes, that's a trifecta, y'. All. I don't know that there's much hope for that town.

[A]

I think that there is A strategic mistake has been made, though, that if, if they had just focused on, particularly the people on our. That are still claiming to wear our jersey, that are echoing their sentiments. If they had just stuck with scapegoating Jews, which is the oldest and most successful scapegoating in the history of our species, then I, I think that they could have potentially just won that argument straight up. There's that much overall frustration with America's foreign policy and its failures in the last era and can't relitigate. You know, Dick Cheney's dead, George W. Bush is gone. So someone's got to be kind of the face of everybody's angst where that's concerned. And since a lot of the neocons were Jews, we'll just go ahead and scapegoat an entire, you know, tribe of people as a result. But I think by them pivoting so quickly to Islam, I mean, we're only, we're in two years, Tucker has gone from retconning Hitler to simping and slurping for Islam. And right at the time that our people's angst. And you saw that, you see this in your own state, Keith, our people's nationwide angst with Islam. We are approaching like red scare turn of the century red scare levels over Islam. And I, I think there is a strategic mistake that's been made here that gives us a shot. Just as we've seen normies basically say, all right, I was kind of in with you on two people can get married if it's their own lives and my thing. But now you're chest binding our daughters and twerking your hairy rectums in my kid's face at the library. I'm out. Right? It seemed a few years ago that Pride month was ascended. We'd never be rid of it now. It's greatly diminished that I do think of the overextension of going right so fast, especially right to Allah is great. I could see the reverb on that as well. I do think there's an overreach reverb coming. I do. And I'm not very optimistic naturally, very often so. Which is why we're going to talk about the decline of America in 21 words next. Stay tuned.

[C]

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[D]

Headline from not the Bee Report. Female cop shoots Jewish rabbi outside pornhub office in Canada while hiding from Marxist gunmen who killed immigrant officer named Mohammed.

[A]

Is that right there? I meant to say decline. The worst headline in Western history is what I meant to say. Sorry, is that the worst headline in the history of Western civilization? Does that not encompass the entirety of every social contagion in 21 words or less, Todd? I mean, what's missing? There's no training in there. Right. There's no trunes. So maybe that. Maybe 22 words that could have gotten thrown in.

[B]

It was implied. Here's the thing. Aaron used to remark about how the bit that his predecessor Rebecca did. And what was it called, Aaron? Like the craziest thing that happened.

[D]

Yeah. This week.

[A]

This week's nine. The apocalypse.

[B]

Yes, but that's every day now.

[A]

And so that's why the bee had to create not the bee, because the regular news was crazier than their own

[B]

parody headlines, which is why not only New York is gone, but we aren't going to be very far behind. And Keith said there that. It's just we, you know, we fell asleep, you know, but we. That's the thing. We also like it. We like being asleep. This is not new. We've been exposed to it for a long time. This could have been a. How many splashes of cold water to the face have we taken just in the last six years? We still just want to be the ship, the Wally ship, the fat people up in space who have no worries and have everything done for us. And the robots. That's like our heart's desire. We really don't want to be more. We don't want to fight back. We don't want to be the superheroes in the movie, which is why, what's the point of making them, in fairness

[A]

to normies, the current. Most of the current superheroes in the movies are not worthy of wanting to be like. But I know that's not what you're saying.

[B]

They were right before all of this happened. We just. We don't want to try.

[A]

So Pat. I'm sorry. So, Keith for Pat. You're there every morning looking at the headlines first thing every morning for how many years now, right? Bright and early, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys are literally on as the sun comes up, right? Looking at all the news that's about to break, is that the worst headline, at least the worst 21 word headline you have ever seen?

[C]

Yeah. You win. Although, ironically, yesterday there were two headlines that came pretty close. I printed them up here. Hopefully you can see this. From Obama to Mandani, How Islamist rhetoric captured Western elite discourse. That's one. Here's another one for you. Socialist Plot 2028, White House run after trio of big victories. Even if it causes a quote, even if it causes a constitutional crisis. So you won't. But these are honorable mention.

[A]

I do believe those are pretty terrible. And as Todd, you said, this is what. At least this is every day now, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We have this week's sign, today's sign, today's signs. The apocalypse is upon us, essentially.

[B]

I mean, I just. When you're just amongst regular people who are not the people, like when we go out and they're followers of the show and you talk about this stuff and there's just no. Their teeth aren't on edge. It's just without the New York accent. I said, yeah, well, as long whatever their version is of. I just got my giants and I've got my Yankees. I'm just fine. Life is good. They don't, they really don't have a sense of impending doom of any kind whatsoever. And the minute you try to bring it in, they just like they're Homer Simpson. I don't, I don't want any part of that.

[A]

So, Keith, let me go back to you for a second because I know you're a big UFO guy, right? Okay.

[C]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[A]

All right. One of the things that I just.

[B]

That's me.

[D]

I mean, checks in the mail. Keith, thank you.

[C]

Roswell totally happened and it was a big cover up. They intimidated witnesses. What else you need?

[A]

All right, so one of the theories that I have is that they've actually keep doing disclosure. We've had like five of them since 2017. Right. You can argue they're all manufactured. You could argue they're all, you know, controlled opposition. But when you see, like Louis Elizondo and, you know, Stephen Greer on TV demanding disclosure, we keep getting disclosures. They keep giving us disclosures. It's actually happened numerous times since 2017. The government's been admitting that this stuff is true. Right. Trump just did a disclosure earlier this year. Again, it might not be sufficient, might not be what you thought you were going to get, but we've been doing a disclosure, and yet this doesn't move the needle with the American people at all. Yeah, and, and my, and to me, there's two reasons why your government admitting to you that we're not alone in the universe would not move the needle. One is very good and the other is very bad. One is very good in that you are a people so ingrained in your Christian religious tradition that you would not even, even maybe to a fault, even contemplate anything that might cause you to reconsider any fundamental assessment of that premise. You just, it can't penetrate your wall or bubble, if you prefer that term. Okay, I think we're clearly not that people. Right. So therefore it's the really bad reason, which is like nothing existential matters to people. Nothing does. No matter. And if they, if they really want to make us care about aliens, they're going to have to this year. The first NFL games on a Wednesday night, not a Thursday like it normally is. They're going to have to land right there. They're about to kick off, right? Or right as they're at halftime, the aliens get to land their ship right there on the, on the field and interrupt what will be one of the most watched events of the year. The kickoff to The NFL season, something like that, that would get in the way of our comfort is what it would take to make us care. Right? That's kind of what Todd is saying. What are your thoughts on that?

[C]

Well, the aliens are gonna have to move up their schedule. They're actually gonna have to land at the Taylor Swift wedding at Madison Square Garden.

[A]

Well, there's that, too. Y.

[C]

That's probably better.

[A]

Can I just.

[C]

I want to point out something that Todd said there that just triggered something in me. I used to ride the bus every day in Manhattan with New Yorkers out to the suburbs of New Jersey. And I remember I would sit in the back of the bus, and you didn't really tell too many people that you worked for Glenn Beck back in that day. And this guy was exactly what Todd described. Just, I need my sports, I need my distractions. I don't care what's going on. But the one time. The one time that he ever even got remotely political, he. He was a union guy, and he had a calendar from the union, and in it, it showed union bosses on the golf course. And him and his union buddies were really offended by that. So my point is, if you can somehow make it personal and you can somehow draw what is happening around them in their city and in their country into their own personal lives, I think that's how you make inroads.

[B]

I just.

[C]

That just came to mind there. But overall, big picture as far as disclosure. I mean, you know, look, talk radio was saying everything that could be said about Barack Obama, and the people still fell for it. So I don't know. I don't. I don't know how much we're all walking around on with blinders in our own little bubble to one degree or another. That's sad truth.

[A]

All right, Aaron, we go to you.

[D]

You said yesterday on Theology Thursday, invoking John Calvin, when God wants to punish a nation, he gives them wicked rulers. And, you know, the thought occurred to me, God is perfect. Even his punishments are perfect. And maybe, and especially in a system of government like Canada's or especially the United States, if we have wicked rulers, we can't really blame God, can we? Even though God, in his providence, maybe gave us those wicked rulers as a punishment, it's perfect justice because we gave that punishment to ourselves by whom we elected to send to Congress. When God chooses to punish the United States of America, he gives them the Congress in the year 2026. I think a variation of this is true. When God is actively punishing a nation, he gives them stupid headlines. Like this. I mean, this is the intersection of basically. Basically every single. Every single ism that ails us. Female cop. There should be no female cops. There shouldn't now if they want to be in very specific circumstances. You know, basically, if you're out there basically on the front lines with a gun, there shouldn't be. But why are there? Because of the failure of the men to step up to the plate. So there's one. So feminism and a failure of the men shoots Jewish rabbi. Got nothing to say about that. Outside pornhub office. You were just. There's a mass shooting outside of pornhub office. Again, feminism, Lack of male fortitude.

[A]

Basically a human trafficking office in Canada.

[D]

Need I say more? While hiding from Marxist gunman and an incel who killed immigrant officer named what? The guy who he actually killed. His name happened to be Muhammad in Canada. It's the intersection of every ism. That is a stupid headline. It's a headline. We deserve that headline.

[A]

I'm not going to ask anybody to top that because that was excellence. I mean, depressing, and I'll be cutting myself during the break, but excellence. Excellently delivered. Let's get to the exit question. Can you come up with a worse headline than this? Todd?

[B]

No.

[A]

He man sequel goes into production.

[B]

Well, that's. Like I said, that's expected. I'm just. But it's for the same reasons this is.

[A]

They're not. They're gonna.

[B]

They're gonna lose half a million dollars when this. When this headline is possible. I guarantee you you're making as many he man movies as possible.

[C]

I can't wait. I have the power, Keith.

[A]

Come up with a worse headline than what we just discussed.

[C]

I don't know what.

[D]

I've got an easy one.

[A]

You got an easy one. President Kamala Harris said follow. Then whatever. Whatever happens next doesn't matter.

[D]

I'm thinking tmz, Todd Erzin and Connor. Stallions caught holding hands in steamy, steamy retreat. Hookup or meetup.

[A]

I like that.

[D]

That is the worst.

[A]

That would be terrible. That would be. That would traumatize. That'd be terrible for me. I mean, that would traumatize me on multiple levels. It would. Let's get to this week's kicker topic, issue four. Keith, we did this one just for you. Okay. Are there more. Are there more foreigners living in Dallas permanently than there are foreign visitors to Dallas for the World Cup? Keith, we start with you. Which one is it?

[C]

No. On a technicality. They're in the suburbs, so I will say that.

[A]

So they're living better than us, actually.

[C]

Yes, yes, that's right. That's right. This is specifically what is happening now is the worst case scenario and why I moved my family here in 2012 to the Rural side of the metro area and out in the boonies. So, ta da, here we go. A little foresight. Yay me. But someone once said, borders, language, culture. Remember that guy? So they both parties left our borders open for decades, and we are now living the results of that. We have foreign invaders and they were welcomed here. They were invited here by both parties. And then with the political correctness that the Clinton administration brought us in the decades since then, we had to embrace every culture but our own. And we had the public school demonic teachers brainwashing our kids to hate themselves, hate their country, hate their history. And maybe we won't teach you English, but you'll learn every other language. And so now we are just. I tell you, every time I'm on this show, guys, I'm so depressing and I'm so sorry. But to answer your question, yes, to whatever the question was, because there's plenty of foreigners here for the soccer and here for the forever. And we're just. It's playing out.

[A]

We're.

[C]

The fruit is ripe now after decades of neglect. And it's just this. It's a plan that is playing out beautifully for radicals.

[A]

I think we just let his answer stand. He lives there, right? Not us, Right?

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Okay, let's get to predictions. Todd, I'll start with you. Go. We got three minutes.

[B]

Caitlin Clark is going after literally being assaulted. She's going to sue the NBA.

[A]

The NBA? Because it owns the wnba? Is that what you're saying?

[B]

Right. Yeah, doesn't it? And things changed.

[A]

I heard it did, yeah.

[C]

Or what?

[B]

Yes. For some kind of breach of contract or something like that. I mean, literally, she has to do something.

[A]

I mean, I'd love to defend her, but she shred all the remaining dignity trying to gain the acceptance of the very people and forces that are assaulting her now.

[C]

Yeah, she's probably a public school product, the way I mentioned earlier.

[A]

So she's ashamed that she's this good in white.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.

[A]

I'll take the beating. Thank you, sir. May I have another? Yes. Aaron, what about you? What's yours?

[D]

This one is specifically yet again designed to tweak, Todd, but I really believe it's going to be true. Pre sales went up this week for Grand Theft Auto 6. My prediction is this will be the single Most profitable IP in all of media. In all of video games for the next 30 years.

[B]

Every time you guys think you're tweaking me, you're just saying you were right about everything, Todd. That's all you're doing. And why we cannot look at. Look at the culture. The dumbest headline possible. It's possible in a world where men play this video game. Keith. I'll give you a exception. Go watch he man.

[A]

You don't look like you're tweaked at all.

[B]

And, and, and endlessly go to the ball game. I'm right. And all you idol worshipers just go keep doing what you're doing. You're just gonna get more stupid headlines shoved right up your backside. And you're gonna deserve it.

[D]

I didn't say you were wrong.

[C]

You're right.

[A]

Aaron. He's not tweaked at all. Not tweaked at all. Keith.

[C]

I haven't played a video game in over 20 years.

[A]

For the record, I actually played MLB the Show last night. Keith.

[D]

Quickly.

[A]

Go ahead.

[C]

Yeah, quickly. Okay, so the House has already passed it. The Senate's gonna pass the Clarity act to give some stability to the cryptocurrency markets. Bitcoin will rebound and be over 100,000 by the end of the year. That's wishful thinking for myself there. And they're gonna put the bill in front of Trump just to give him something else not to sign until the SAVE act gets.

[A]

I hope you're right about that. My prediction is that no other DC Comics projects are going to go into production until the new Warner Brothers owners get a chance to see for themselves what James Gunn's going to do with man of Tomorrow. They're going to put the kibosh on everything. And they're going to say we're going to see if you can make actually something that's a real hit with these very valuable IPs that we just paid billions of dollars for. I think that's what's going to happen.

[B]

How impossible it may be.

[A]

Impossible it may be. But that's what I think is going on.

[B]

Let the past die.

[C]

Steve.

[A]

I think.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I don't control Paramount.

[B]

I don't own it.

[A]

Let the past send that over to the Ellisons. They run it. So. But that's what I think the Ellisons are going to do. Keith, good to see you, brother. Thank you.

[C]

Thank you, guys. I love you.

[B]

Later, Keith.

[A]

All right, enjoy. He Man. Hour two is next it. All right, back with Hour two here on Blaze tv, radio and podcast. I'm Steve Dase with Todd erzin and Aaron McIntyre. Don't forget that. You can let us know what you think about what we think by emailing the show [e-mail] you can follow me at Steve Dace on Facebook. Where else? Instagram and Tick Tock. You can also follow me at Steve Date show on X Me, we and Gab or did I mix those up? I can't remember.

[D]

There's too many.

[A]

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[D]

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[B]

Foreign.

[D]

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[B]

Now we're back to talking about preachers. Just one preacher this time who did what he thought was right in doing his duty to God and thus created without counting the cost, and thus created this butterfly effect that has a direct role along the lines of Steve, what you talk about with Rahab being miraculously in the line of descendants to the Lord himself. This preacher has a direct line to the creation of the Constitution that we have today. In the summer of 1771 in Caroline county in Virginia, an unlicensed Baptist preacher was preaching outdoors when from across the field, a priest of the Church of England galloped up at the head of the sheriff and other men, thrust a horsewhip in the preacher's mouth, dismounted and then subjected the preacher a thorough flogging in an open field in plain sight of the assembled crowd. This bloody flogging was not an isolated incident. The Church of England was the established church of Virginia, and preachers of other denominations were obliged to request a license from the state on principle. The Baptists refused to apply, holding that their right to preach came not from any state, but from the word of God. For this crime against the state religion, more than 45 Baptist ministers in Virginia were thrown in jail between 1765 and 1778. A few weeks after that awful flogging in Caroline county, another assembly of Baptists met in Blue Run Church in Orange county. Within four miles of the home of James Madison. Five thousand turned out the largest crowd ever assembled in the Commonwealth of Virginia. The leading Baptist preacher in Orange county was bringing some 300 souls to Christ per year. Nearly one per day. Although not quite 20 years of age at the time, James Madison's heart went out to the Baptists. As a member of the Church of England, he was morally offended when members of the church indulged like imps of Satan in the persecution of other believers. During the next 20 years, he often defended the Baptists when they desperately needed help against the establishment of that time. Fast forward to 1776, when he was 24, just 24 years old, but he was helping to formulate the language of the Virginia Declaration of Rights. And now Fast forward another 10 years when Madison was trying to be part of the very first Congress of the United States in a newly drawn district. There were 2,200 voters in that district, most of whom were unknown to him. But he did know the Baptists, including the pastor of Blue Run Church. And the quite considerable electoral force of the Baptists enabled him to eke out a narrow win and thus, and thus to participate in the first United States Congress. And the rest is history.

[A]

So that's just another anecdote that is inspired by my latest book, why Independence Day. America is great because God is good. You can get it right [e-mail] we've only got a couple of thousand copies of hardcovers left, and then when they're gone, they're gone. And if you already purchased yours, you're one of the thousands that already purchased yours. Thank you. Please go to Amazon and leave us a five star review. You guys, it's been incredible, the launch of this book. And we are now, for the fifth week in a row, the number one best selling new release children's Christian book in the country. So thank you guys very much for that and thank you very much, Todd, for that as well. All right, y' all ready for some feedback Friday?

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

All right, let us begin here with Mike. When are you going to get the Pride Edition sticker off your computer? I watch Aaron, then I check your computer and for that reason, when the stickers there click, I'm out. Bye bye Dumbass days. Mike Blackberg or Blackburn, I should say. Well, first of all, Mike, I am not going to disabuse you of that instinct whatsoever. You are right to be disgusted by the symbol. So none of us here are taking any great umbrage with that represents, right?

[D]

Are we reaching the point with this? And I'm, I'm asking this earnestly. I had a change. You remember what I had in my bio on X or then Twitter for quite a long time. Muslim, atheist, vegan, Pansexual lizard person. I do remember that the number of people who got so ape with my takes. Apoplectic with my takes. That's what I mean by ape got so apoplectic with different takes when I was. Especially when I was being sarcastic, which doesn't come across well via text anyway, so I should know better. But they would then click on my, oh, he's a pansexual Muslim. Oh, he's a vegan atheist. Stop following him. I think we might be approaching that point where people who are right wing don't know who you are, but they see the pride. They see you. What is. What are the Gen Z, the Pride coded, the Rainbow Jihad coded sticker on there, and they automatically assume that you're, you know, a molester or something.

[A]

So last year, in honor of Pride Month, I put out a children's book I'm very proud of called Richie Meets the Rainbow. That. That gloriously used terms like unrepentant savages. And again, as I mentioned, I'm very proud of that book to finance that book, because it's the first time I ever attempted to do one out of pocket, because there weren't really a lot of people, even on the right, lining up up to finance at the time a book because we had to do it a year in advance, you know, to draw it and everything else. So there was not a huge amount of folks on the right eager to. Even on the right eager to fund a book and publish it that went after Pride Month as ruthlessly as I did. So we funded it all out of pocket, and we did a special edition Pride Edition with a Pride sticker on there that I signed. And we sold enough of those to pay for the printing up front to make sure we broke even. And that's all that that sticker represents. That's it.

[B]

I want to test this guy's resolve, Aaron, right now. Publicly endorse the sticker. See if he stops watching your montage.

[D]

I endorse the Pride Edition sticker. Do I have to? I solemnly swear I endorse the Pride Edition sticker.

[A]

Nice. Salute. Nice. I think you have to bend over anyway. Sorry. No, my bad. Bad. Steve.

[D]

Why did. What. Never mind.

[A]

That was terrible, Stephen. Terrible. Terrible. True, but terrible. No, I mean, that's. That's the story behind it. Okay. And. But I'm.

[B]

But did you hear what happened? You like this?

[A]

Hold on. Let me just say this. I am very happy to hear that I have an audience of people who are instinctively sickened by this logo. I'm not complaining about that at all. No.

[B]

The confluence. Did you hear you. The answer is no. But you'll like this.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The World cup game, Iran versus Egypt. So this involves Iran, this involves soccer, and this involves pride. Because their game. This is it. It is being hosted by North America. Not. But this particular game is not like in the Rust Belt. This game is being held in Seattle.

[A]

Yeah, like second gayest city.

[B]

Iran and Egypt, I believe both of them. I know Iran, but I demanded that no Pride rainbow nonsense be shown at the game. And FIFA, the leisure arm of the one world government, as you say, said no. We're gonna. We're gonna. So who's the winner and the loser in all this?

[A]

Steve? You know, I. That is a good question. Okay. My mind is.

[B]

Yes, I thought it would.

[D]

Checkmate commies. Where's your God now?

[B]

I mean.

[A]

I mean, who do you. Who do you root for between Islamists and communists? Who do you root for? Or do you just weep for your country? That this is taking place within your landmass, that you're.

[B]

This is one of those. Are we. Should we have a smile on our face? Should we just drink hemlock? What should we do?

[A]

Hemlock, I think, is the right answer. Hemlock is the right answer.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

All right. Eric writes, let's assume that Fauci's pardons hold up in court and do protect them from prosecution. Well, there had to be numerous co conspirators, so let's just start arresting them now. Let's prosecute bureaucrat managers who threatened and retaliated against whistleblowers. Today, let's prosecute everyone down to janitors who knew and hid the truth from we the people and our elected representatives who were seeking the truth. Prosecute the intelligence community bureaucrats who knew. Prosecute the DARPA money changers who funneled money to his gain of function. Frankenstein's Frankenstein science programs. Prosecute the drug company executives who were involved. Prosecute those who worked within the various organizations that were used to silence news and social media. Make it painful to all involved to at least make people stop and think before they try to do this to us again. Eric, that's a. That's a homily that Eric wrote.

[B]

My reaction. First time. I mean, no, that the.

[A]

Let's say that first. Eric, you're. You're spot on, bro.

[B]

Yeah, of course. But.

[A]

Okay, this is. Everything you wrote is brilliant and metaphysical certitude. Want to make sure that gets stated first.

[B]

Our National Director of Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, who's I Think she's demonstrated she's got a little pluck. She's not afraid of, you know, a little bit of a fight. She's not John Thune. But she, she waited until her last day. She actually has authority to do things. Waited until the last day to do a dump of stuff that quite frankly, most of us. I'm glad she did it. I'm applaud. But most of us who've been, you know, Steve and I on the record on all this stuff 2020 and 2021 in a book. I. No one has the. We talked about it in the show with Keith already about how headlines are possible, what world we're living in. No one wants to. Everybody wants to move on. Yeah, we. Maybe we got poisoned. But yeah, I got stuff to do and everybody meant well. Mistakes are made. We are just a. Such a stupid and soft society. It's not gonna happen,

[A]

Aaron.

[D]

I mean, that's a good start. I'm listening to that and I'm like, yeah. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Talk dirty too. I mean that's. I know that's a good start. A really good start. That's. I. Because trust me, if the appetite for what needs to be done does not consider that literally. Literally. And I know that your word is overused. Thank you, Jesse Kelly, for making me self conscious. But if the appetite for what actually needs to happen in order to hold accountable those who need to be held accountable to the degree that they need to be held accountable. If that what was listed is not just a start, but is just the ends, then we're gonna get this over and over again. Prediction. We're gonna get this over and over again.

[B]

We just know by now. I mean. Yeah. Aaron, the way you put it. Yeah, that's hot. Hot. That's really hot, man. But there's this meme going around lately that's like what. What the movies tell you lesbians look like. And it.

[A]

Oh yes, it's the.

[B]

It's the. It's Sidney Sweeney and then what lesbians really look like. And it shows you a picture of like Rob sand. You know, that's. That's. We're not. That's the reality of our appetite. Really. Yeah. It was a total con based, you know, governments, big pharma, all of it. It. We were literally poisoned. Your average American. Your average American on the right. Your average American on the right who's a Christian, doesn't care because they've got idols to polish.

[A]

I'll leave it there. There's more I could say, but it would be Variations of the same thing. Let's go to Mark next. I know you were not in favor of this war going in regarding Iran on that much you've repeatedly said and stood on. You've also come across as being very pragmatic or a realist in that when we're in it, we might as well finish it and do what is right. My question, if you were not in favor of this war to end Iran's nuclear weapons capabilities and end of foreseeable in and end it for the foreseeable future, then what were you in favor of to achieve that end goal? I'm not sure I've ever heard you clearly articulate what we should have been done, what we should have done instead to stop them. I kind of have Mark, but just to go ahead and flesh that out further, I would have just, just done as many Operation Midnight Hammers as it took. I mean we, we demonstrated a year ago at this time that we could, with, with devastating precision level key aspects of Iranian infrastructure that did not require a hundred some odd days war. A massive influx of fuel based inflation on top of the massive influx of inflation we were already trying to deal with, wasn't going to turn our own right wing base against one another because no one did. It is true. No one ran on war with Iran. No one ran on that. No one promised that. You know, Trump loves the phrase promises made, promises kept and he's done that a lot. This would not be one of them. Nobody ran on this. So I think that there were more quick strike capabilities then. Well, we got so far into this now that now we're going to be the ones that blockade the Strait of Hormuz. I just, I just think it's, we, I think that we could have extracted a lot of damage, kept their heads on, heads on a swivel by them never knowing when we were going to strike or how many times in between it would be. And just literally every time they get out of line, man, we just, you know, punish it. Every time we get up, you know, drop a MOAB, fly B52, you know, send a squadron over there and we mow the lawn until all the weeds are gone. I would have done that instead then what we ended up doing, which was the largest deployment of our military since Iraq, we gave off the veneer that we were going to go into for some long stage military engagement. We did extract a tremendous amount of destruction against the Iranian regime. I think that keeps getting underreported. People keep saying, I've even heard the Albino all hat, no cattle. Albino Trey Gowdy say Iran's better off than it was. I'd love to. I wonder if all those Iranian leaders now, you know, tormented in hell because they didn't get, they found out that Allah is not real and neither is his paradise. What if they feel like Iran is better off than it was before we tormented the hell out or before we bombed the hell out of them? I just think that's a ridiculous statement to make. So we have done some clear mortal damage to the Iranian regime and military. That, that's pretty obvious. But we also told people that we were in it to win it. You know, said to the Iranian people, you're the hour of your freedom is at hand. And then it's just very, it was always very clear we didn't have the resolve for that. We weren't going to go through with that. And it was the typical kind of over the top Trumpian negotiation leverage, which you can't really use against a regime that won't ever negotiate in good faith. And so we ended up kind of in this no man's land where, where, you know, we had bombed everything there was to bomb without serious infrastructure damage to the culture and more collateral damage to the people. And they weren't just going to give up and go away unless we made them and we don't want to make them. So we kind of did this standoff. So then we tried to do this siege of strategy where we actually now blockaded the straight, hoping to smoke out the Iranian regime, denying them resources, revenue through the strait that they were relying on because we could, you know, fight more of a long term battle. But then it really just turned out that they were more committed than us because we were taking on an incredible amount of domestic political capital and baggage that we can't absorb. Was already going to be a tough midterm before going ahead and doing this. So I think that we just didn't have to do any of that. I don't, I think we could have just simply just woken up one day here in March, maybe another day in April, maybe another day in May, and hey, look, you know, another Iranian office building or factory is gone, that they were doing nuclear weapons. And hey, look, another 10 or 15 members of the Iranian high command have now assumed room temperature. I don't think that we had to do this large buildup that was kind of sound and fury, but ultimately didn't signify nearly as much as what we threatened. And I think we could have instead done this in a way Quick strike more quick strike precision basis without them ever knowing when might be the next time that we show up and say, yeah, yeah, you're out of line and Uncle Bingo is here to collect the check. I'd have done that instead. Thoughts?

[B]

I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm Iran out. I'm.

[A]

You're not alone. I'm finally you have something totters and finally found something he has common with Normie America. I just said you guys are both Iran out.

[B]

I've said months ago. This is starting to feel pretty covety. So yeah, I, I'm sorry, this is where the best answer is to just. I plead total ignorance on a way to make this better. I don't like I. I see clear paths all the time on things and I tell you about them over and over and over again. I'll beat the dead horse if I need to. I think you all know that about me. I don't like. I. There were no good answers about this. And again, what for the reasons if, if the, for the sake of argument, if the best possible answer is to just be done with this once and for all, you have got if that is true, akin to getting rid of Hitler, you know, it's got to be gone. We have to do the great sacrifice. As Steve said, we aren't that people. Even if that's true, we aren't that people. We don't believe in great sacrifice. We just don't. So what are we going to do?

[D]

Yeah, I just. Like I said, I think the day after, two days after the options on the table before, during, and now after the operation against Iran to our just varying degrees terrible, because Iran is terrible. And it just so happens that they can inflict terrible consequences. Over a spit of marine territory about 20 miles wide, a terrible despotic revolutionary extremist regime has control over a global energy choke point that's only 20 miles wide. There is never was never a great, just perfect scenario here. For whatever reason, President Trump believed that now is the time to strike. Now is the time to risk all of the things that we've seen in the ensuing months, weeks and months. There's no point armchair quarterbacking over it now. There just isn't what it looks like to actually stay for the long haul. It's obvious we don't have the political will and probably won't maybe ever in this country, at least not in our lifetimes, to effect change whatever that looks like. Ground troops, what have you. I certainly have no will. I don't think. I think there's maybe 0.1% of the population that wants to send ground troops to. To Iran, so that's not going to happen. So how do you change regimes? I don't know. I don't know. We couldn't do the Maduro act on Iran. Much bigger country, much different dynamics there. Couldn't. Couldn't do that. So we did our best. We destroyed a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. Trillion dollars of damage. Who knows? But in the aftermath, it's just a sucky situation because Iran, their leadership sucks. It just does.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

So that's kind of the end of the analysis.

[A]

All right, let's continue on. Let's go here. I wanted to express my gratitude for you guys work. Your podcast has become one of the few places where I can trust that I'll hear honest analysis and principled convictions and a perspective grounded in faith rather than just the latest political trends. What truly inspires me as you guys, courage. In a culture that values conformity and punishes dissent, you. You've consistently stood firm in your beliefs, speaking the truth as you see it, regardless of the consequences. This unwavering conviction is rare and deeply appreciated by many of us. Your commitment to your faith is equally commendable. You don't treat Christianity as a mere marketing tool or a convenient talking point. You try to live it, defend it, and challenge others to engage in meaningful discussions about it. Your actions have had a profound impact on me and countless others. Thank you guys for your willingness to confront criticism and continue fighting for what you believe in. Your voices matter and your work is making a difference. As the late, great Charlie Kirk wisely said, if you believe in something, you need to have the courage to fight for those ideas, not run away from them or try to silence them. That's from Ryan Henderson, grateful Iowa Millennial.

[B]

Thank you, Ryan.

[A]

I just thought that, you know, we are very grateful for your. For your kind note, Ryan. Thank you very much. Were your parents Cubs fans by any chance?

[B]

Rhino.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, that's the only Ryan I've ever. Other Ryan, first name I've ever seen was Rhino, hall of Fame, second baseman for the Cubs.

[B]

Makes sense.

[A]

Yeah, he'd be about that age too, right? He's a millennial. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Just a couple days ago is the anniversary of the Rhino game against Suter and the Cardinals.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I've watched that a few times. Like when they used to have ESPN Classic, they used to run that every now and then. That game was pretty incredible. But thank you.

[B]

And

[A]

you summed up exactly what we're doing here or we're trying to do here to the best of our ability. So thank you very much, brother. Really appreciate that. All right, I think I have time to read this because maybe we could read it now and. Give you guys time to think about it during the break. All right, I'm going to tell you guys something that nobody else in my life knows about knows about. I have the best family in the world. Parents, grandparents, siblings, cousins. We all love each other dearly. We frequently have family dinners. We are the 1%. I have everybody. I have everything anybody could ever want for a family. Deeply spiritual church, going, loving. Any of us would drop anything we were doing to help the other out. Which is what I could why I could never tell them when I'm about to tell you for fear of disappointment, I greatly struggle with homosexual thoughts. I'm the only member of my family that is single. I'm not looking for a relationship. I don't want one. These thoughts do not turn into actions. I struggle with severe anxiety and the fear of the Lord constantly overcomes me when I have severe impulses. I don't want to be attracted to men. I want to be attracted to women. I pray about this daily. I believe this is a cross that I have to bear. It is embarrassing to me. I've grown up in a conservative family with no predilection for these thoughts. Nobody knows about this except for God and now you guys. I greatly fear for my salvation. The intrusive thoughts don't stop as I stated. They don't turn into action. I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran. We always preach about sinning and thought, word and deed. I'm always sitting in thought. I ask for repentance but the thoughts continue. So therefore I believe I'm continuing to sin in thought and repentance without the stopping of behavior doesn't seem like repentance to me. I wish and pray that I wasn't attracted to men. I am in the Word constantly but feel I'm not adhering to it with thoughts that I can't control. I have an amazing pastor but I'm scared to bring this up with him. We are a church of just about 50 people. My dad is an elder. I'm an usher. I fear this information would spread and that I would be looked at differently. I don't want that. I am attempting to fight this fight and feel like I am losing. I realize we live in a fallen world and that sin is part of human nature. Paul can Paul constantly speaks of the troubles of believers. He also Speaks on the abomination of homosexuality. Am I an abomination? How should I proceed with this? I fear hell more than I look forward to heaven. My thoughts don't become actions, but are thoughts enough to keep a believer in Christ's burial and resurrection from heaven. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated as it is a constant internal struggle, and I feel like I am losing, and for obvious reasons, I'm going to withhold this individual's name. All right. But. I wanted us to hear what he had to say. We're up against the break right here. Okay? So we will gather our thoughts for this individual and. And respond. Let me. Let me say first and foremost, though, this is an incredibly brave letter that you have sent. Sent. It's an incredibly brave letter that you have sent. It's an incredibly transparent letter that you have sent, which is why I think there's probably more hope for you than you feel right now at the moment. All right, we'll get into that here when we come back. Stay tuned.

[C]

The steve day show.

[A]

All right, back here on the Steve Day show. So, Todd, give our family enough or give our show audience an update on how the Erzen family is doing with their cove pure.

[B]

Well, this is the first time it's been a month now where the Erzen household is at full strength. All four girls are home. They're all working out. So like I said, we were trying to break it before June came along. Now, if this thing's just clearly indestructible, because it is. It's just on all the time. And most importantly, the water's just good. My girls, I'm a caveman. It can, like, it could be hose, water, whatever. I'm just simple creature. If this water was not good, they would not touch it. And they keep going back for more. It is just. We just all we need to. Basically, we need to plug the hose into it just so it's full all the time is the only thing that we. We need to do because we love using it so much. So well done, Cove pure.

[A]

So there you go. And I think we all know Todd doesn't easily endorse anything. All right, so if you guys want to also be the next success story, if you're looking at the picture right now on video, you can see it's just like a Keurig. So it looks kind of sleek. Fits there right on your counter. All right, so you can get yours right now. Take back control of your water. And in honor of America's 250th CO Pure is giving you guys $250 [e-mail] Steve that's Cove Pure. C O O V E P U R E covepure.com Steve. That's covpure.com Steve. $250 [e-mail] Steve. All right, let's get to our note here, and let me say a couple of things. First and foremost, number one, you are very brave for your willingness to fight this. Very brave. You're very brave for coming forward and looking for encouragement. You have exhibited a far more toughness and temerity than an overwhelming percentage of Christian men at any point in their lives. So, no, I don't believe on the authority of God's word that you are an abomination. I think what you are is a fulfillment of Romans 7. Let's. Let's take your particular. You know, when Paul talks about the thorn in his flesh, notice we're never told what it is. It could be a lot of things. Paul had falling outs with friends. He was abandoned, he was betrayed, he was beaten, he was shipwrecked. I mean, it could be despair, it could be loneliness, could be anger, bitterness. We don't know. We also know that, you know, during a rather lascivious time. And Paul had as much exposure to gentile cultures as any Jew maybe had ever had, because up until the New Testament, the Jews weren't supposed to have that much exposure to the gentile cultures. So these are all pagan. These are all uncircumcised, meaning outside of the Jewish covenant.

[C]

It.

[A]

They don't know the law. They're not living the law. One of the churches that Paul plants is in a place called Corinth, which is a Vegas era of lasciviousness, even under Greek standards at the time. So it's also possible that, you know, Paul is struggling with temptations in other areas that, you know, with no wife or other opportunities to satiate some of those desires, we don't know could be a combination of many of the things that I just said. We don't know. And I think the reason why the word of God doesn't tell us what that thorn is is because we'd have a tendency to look at it and say, okay, well, that's not my problem. But since we all have a thorn in the flesh, if not a couple or a few, now we can all identify. You are not a homosexual. You are a child of God. The first thing you've got to win is the war over your identity, your temptations. Are not your identity. And the more so you're not. You think you're flirting with urges, you're flirting with identity. And as long as you believe your identity is in Christ, you will be given. It will be difficult, not simple or easy, but. But what? As what, Paul? As what God promises to Paul? In my weakness, you are made strong. Paul also prayed, take this thorn out of my flesh. That's what I hear you praying. Take it away. But God says, in my weakness, you are made strong. So your identity is not your sin pattern. And fortunately, we live in a culture right now that wants to say to you as an individual that this. We would never do this with adulterers. We would not do this with chronic masturbators who just can't stop masturbating to porn all day. We wouldn't do this with anybody else. But this one sexual sin is supposed to be an identity, not an activity. We would never. We would laugh, we would scoff. I mean, I have to keep cheating on my wife. I mean, I can't stop myself. They make Law and Order episodes about guys like that. They always get taken to the cleaners and everybody cheers at the end. So you're, You're. You are not defined by your activity. That's not your identity. Your identity is in Christ. And the more that your identity. You find your identity there, the more your activity will change, the more your desires will change. Now, I would suggest. I. I agree with you. If you're in a church of 50 people and your dad is an elder, you're asking a lot of them. You know, I'm a public. I, I'm. I am. I have a public Persona. The amount of people, I have a lot of friends, a lot of contacts. The amount of people, though, that I can be completely real with is very small. Not because a lot of my friends and contacts aren't good people. I think they are. Otherwise they wouldn't be my friends and contacts. Right? But the broader that I. The broader that I cast that net, the more likely I'm putting somebody in a position to do. To essentially fail me. Right? So I, I have a. I keep. I keep intimate conversations about what's going on in my life at times to a very select few. You are by. I would. I would. I mean some will say you should give him a chance. I get what you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna defer to you because I've never set foot in your church. I don't know your family, I don't know the pastor, but you know it well and you're serving. And so if you're serving there and you believe in it and you're like, I just don't think these people can handle this, then I would, I'd probably trust your instincts on that. And I would seek out ministries. There are many. You want to email me again, Steve dace.com and I'll connect you with my wife, who's a licensed counselor and will happily keep things confidential. She can help connect you to those kinds of things. Sexual dysfunction is her specialty. That's what she focuses on. But, but you, you keep, you keep seeing your identity in Christ and your activities and desires will eventually change. It may take a while. It may simmer there underneath the surface all of the time. One of the reasons why I play video games at night, because I used to do other things at night. Like, okay, so, yeah, but I, I would urge you, you need help. And when I mean help, I don't necessarily just even mean a professional help. What I mean is a triple braided cord is tougher to break. Who is the gentleman? I mean, we've, we've talked to people that have left homosexuality behind several times. But Beckett Cook, Change of Affection is

[D]

the name of the book.

[A]

Thank you. Change of Affection by Beckett Cook. I'd look him up, up. He has a very powerful story. But I, I'd find a ministry that's outside of your little community church based on what you're telling us and that you can be real with, that you can confront these desires with. I think the longer you are trying to do this on your own and you're. And you feel like it's just you versus everybody, eventually the enemy is going to wear down your resolve. So get a support mechanism. Get a support system. I would urge that quite a bit. It, it's incredibly brave of you and a testimony to the strength of how sincere and pure your faith is that you've withstood it to this point. So don't beat yourself up at all. I mean, you've earned some stripes here. You are literally suffering for your faith. And sometimes the worst thing to suffer through is our own temptations and desires because we're battling against our own bodies. So I want to give you a lot of credit for that. But you do need an external network of people to be there for you and support you for sure that you can be real with, that you can be honest with. If and when the time should come that you give into those desires, the enemy will tell you you're too far gone. Now you can't ever come back. You can't ever be forgiven. That's a damn lie. Don't believe that. But you probably will. You probably will if it's just you versus him. Them. If you're with others that have walked your walk, have been where you are, have fallen on the narrow road and had to learn what it means to get back up, you are more inclined to go ahead and get back up and stay on it. So those are a couple of the encouraging things. At least I hope they're encouraging. I want you to know I mean them to be that I would offer you, sir. Do you guys have anything else you want to offer?

[B]

Yeah, I've got three things that come to mind. First, confession, which is what you've done here. A version of confession is an act of exorcism. So you're on the attack with this. And you said you, you feel like you're losing and sounds like you're fighting to me because really that this is just in, you know, first John reminding us to con. Confess our sins. This is, is what you. And that means you are going on offense. One of Steve's principles of political warfare and ultimately Steve's principles of political warfare, as he does in the show every day, ultimately have to do with honoring God first. You are putting your faith out there like a shining light and say, I'm fighting. So this, I don't hear desperation. I hear a man flexing, quite frankly. Well done. Confessing your sins. It's a must. You're you, you're doing it. Secondly, I just said confessing your sins, but based on what you said, I don't, I didn't hear. And if you, it, it's a, it, it's not clear that you've sinned at all. What you might be dealing with is compute. Concupiscence. The, the tendency, the thought patterns to sin. But not you. I didn't hear you saying you acted on anything thing. In which case the lech who's going home every week with a different girl while in college. That guy's got way more weight around his neck than you do. All right? So it's important because like he said, you're you. You're fighting with your own sin. It's hard to keep that level of perspective. But it, it, I, I, I think you're being too hard on your while confessing and doing the right thing and not waiting too long to air this out into the open. I think you will also be being too hard on yourself based on your testimony. As long as it's on. And third, you are in the great company with the oldest book in the entire Bible, the book of Job. Are you this. This may be a. That deal that. Look at him. This guy's got nothing to worry about. That's why he loves you. Let's give him something real and we'll see. And God's like, I think devil, I know this guy's hurt better than you need to deal again. Go read that book and find fellowship in it because it seems like every part of your heart you want to give to God and you're trying as hard as you can. No one wants that relationship more than God himself.

[A]

Beautifully said there at the end.

[D]

I was going to bring up Beckett Cook and I think Beckett Cook, Change of Affection is the name of the book and I think that would be a wonderful resource for you. But I recall C.S. lewis's words and mere Christianity on the topic of sexual purity and sexual ethic from a Christian worldview. After each failure, ask forgiveness, pick yourself up, try again. Very often what God first helps us towards is not the virtue itself, but just this power of always trying again. Now that sounds like self help, but no, that's not where Lewis ends. For however important chastity or courage or truthfulness or any other virtue may be, this process trains us in the habits of the soul, which are more important still. It cures our illusions about ourselves and teaches us to depend upon God. The only fatal thing is to sit down content with anything less than perfection. He's not talking about self help. He's not talking about white knuckling it. He's not talking about you can do it. You can pick yourself back up. What Lewis is talking about there is truly understand what God is teaching you in this journey, in this burden. What he's teaching you is to get your eyes off of you and to depend on him. That last line there. The only fatal thing is to sit down content with anything less than perfection. Does CS Lewis think we can achieve perfection on sexual morality or morality or ethics or anything by ourselves? I don't think so. He just said it. Our dependency is on God to help us. We can't achieve that by ourselves. So what do we always have to do from this until our dying breath depend on him. That means we are not without agency, but that's what he's trying to teach us, to get back up. The act of getting back up is maybe the first thing that he wants to teach you to depend on him.

[A]

Beautifully said too. Let me close with this we, we can't have a false choice in either direction just because the current culture has gone out of its way to romanticize this particular sin pattern to the point now that it is anathema to urge people to repent and turn away from it. Just because the culture has gone over the deep end in the abyss does not mean it is some unique sin pattern that cannot be forgiven, cannot be overcome, cannot be helped with that. We can't come alongside those who are struggling with this. We don't have to fall for either one of these extremes. And one of the reasons why the culture did what it did in one direction is so that you wouldn't fight it in the other direction, but also so that then people with our belief system would think, well, since that that's the terrible sin that you can't overcome, and let's shun those people and leave them hanging out to drop no. What? Homosexuality is not more serious than other sins in terms of some kind of economic scale of God's. When Paul says it's it's it, that sexual sin is unique, what do you get because you're sinning against your own body? What he means is exactly what I said to you at the beginning. It pitch your activity against your identity that uniquely in a way no other sin pattern does because you are using your body to knowingly go against your identity that you were made. That's why ultimately I used to ask during the early gay marriage battle, so what you're really saying is that there's no such thing as gender. And they used to really bristle at that, but now, of course, they, they will just openly admit there's really no such thing as gender because again, it pitch your sin pattern against your identity, right? As long as you possibly can hold on to your identity in Christ and get some real support around you if you can. I hope that was helpful, brother. And to anybody else in the audience that is struggling accordingly. All right, back at it again, Monday noon to 2 Eastern, right after Glenn Beck, right here on Blaze TV. Until then, go hard. Romans 8:28.