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Thu Mar 26 2026

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Title: We're Gonna Need a LOT Better Than Low-T Thune
Date: March 26, 2026
Guest: Wynton Hall (Breitbart, author of Code Red)
Main Theme: Principled conservatism with a focus on cultural conflict—specifically, the irreconcilable differences between Christianity and Islam, and the implications of AI on society and politics.

Episode Overview

Steve Deace, joined by co-hosts Todd Erzin and Aaron McIntyre, tackles the urgent need for stronger, principle-driven conservative leadership, critiques Republican “low energy” figures (symbolized by Sen. John Thune), and explores deep cultural and ideological rifts in America.
The episode features a two-part structure:

Current Events and Political Satire—Focusing on political cowardice, cultural collapse, and the growing threat from internal and external ideologies like radical Islam and transgender activism.
In-depth Interviews and Analysis—A discussion with Wynton Hall about the political and cultural ramifications of AI (“Code Red”) and a comprehensive Theology Thursday breakdown of the fundamental, irreconcilable conflicts between Christianity and Islam.

Key Segments & Insights

1. Aaron's News Montage & American Cultural Decline

(00:51–10:38)

Assassination of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Navy Chief – Alleged Israeli involvement and Trump’s response highlighting Iran’s weakened state.
Senate Majority Leader John Thune’s “low-energy” defense of voter ID – Used as a symbol of tepid GOP resistance.
Montage of Social, Cultural Crises:
- Radical Islamist rhetoric in American cities, especially Philadelphia.
- Controversial Islamic teaching at NC State University on child marriage.
- Chaotic court footage with a transgender attorney, used to highlight problems with gender ideology and judicial breakdown.

Memorable Quote:

Steve Dace (reflecting on Thune):
“You probably could never envision a scenario where I might procreate with a woman, like, ever... I voluntarily pee sitting down... I just move my mouth. And the puppet masters who control me from behind, my donors on K Street that I am more aligned with than any of you who vote for me.” (13:07)
Steve expresses exhaustion and disillusionment with both political leadership and the seeming collapse of American culture:
“To quote the great prophet Allen Iverson, I’m tired, all right?” (13:18)

2. Conservatism in Crisis & Movement Disarray

(14:16–22:55)

Leadership is failing. Steve expresses honest fatigue but commits to “stay in the fight.”
The Right’s coalition is built around vested interests, not shared values—leading to constant betrayal and confusion:
- “One of the main reasons we're here is because we decided in this era to be a coalition based on vested interest... instead of shared values.” (19:12)
Lack of trust: Internal factions, conspiracy theories, and the inability to leverage allegations (e.g. about the FBI or Jeffrey Epstein) due to mutual distrust.

3. AI and Society: Interview with Wynton Hall

(32:14–48:42)

Main Points:

AI is accelerating “at warp speed,” integrated into daily life often without our realization.
- “99% of us use AI, even though 64% of us don’t realize it.” (33:01, Wynton Hall)
Next-gen AI (“agentic AI / text-to-action”) threatens to fully automate white-collar work, potentially displacing up to 50% of such jobs in the next 1–5 years.
Displaced, left-leaning workers will likely become advocates for UBI and mass wealth redistribution, influencing both Democrat and eventually Republican policies.
AI bias and censorship: Hall details experiments with Google Gemini showing robust left-wing bias, concern that AI will present authority as “holy writ.”
- “At least with a Google search, I get to choose from links... AI is different because now you are given sort of holy writ, here is the definitive one answer.” (44:55, Wynton Hall)
Calls for ending taxpayer subsidies of ideologically biased tech companies.

Memorable Exchange:

Steve: “So who’s editing that?” (43:44)
Wynton Hall: “The opening chapter of Code Red is all about what you're talking about, which is the woke AI bias. And it’s even worse...” (44:55)

4. Theology Thursday: Christianity vs Islam—16 Irreconcilable Differences

(51:39–95:53)

Background: In response to current events and ongoing confusion regarding Islam’s compatibility with Western culture (sparked by online claims that Christianity has more in common with Islam than Judaism), Steve methodically lays out 16 irreconcilable differences between Christianity and Islam.

Summary Table:
(Each point is expanded and discussed vigorously, timestamps in brackets)

Authority of Revelation
- Christianity: Ignore even angels who contradict the Gospel (Galatians 1:8)
- Islam: Claims Gabriel gave Muhammad a “new” contradicting revelation
  (55:39)
Nature of God
- Christianity: One God, Trinity, God has a Son
- Islam: God is singularly monotheistic, has no son, Trinity is blasphemy
  (57:08)
Nature of Humanity
- Christianity: All are born sinners, need redemption
- Islam: People are basically good, sin is a personal choice
  (57:50)
Salvation
- Christianity: Need a savior (Jesus)
- Islam: No need for a savior; works- and martyrdom-based
  (58:33)
Jesus’ Death and Resurrection
- Christianity: Jesus died for sin and rose again
- Islam: Jesus was not crucified—Allah tricked people
  (59:43)
Second Coming of Christ
- Christianity: Christ returns to redeem
- Islam: Jesus returns to destroy those claiming he’s Son of God
  (62:12)
Assurance of Salvation
- Christianity: Assurance through Christ
- Islam: Only martyrdom guarantees salvation
  (63:27)
Violence & Sacrifice
- Christianity: Lay down life for others
- Islam: Commanded to fight for the faith
  (64:49)
Free Will
- Christianity: Some human agency
- Islam: Fatalistic; Allah controls all
  (66:22)
Worldly Power
- Christianity: Debates about engaging with the world
- Islam: Explicitly seeks world domination
  (67:19)
Religion vs. Political System
- Christianity: Religion that influences politics by byproduct
- Islam: Political system that uses religion as means
  (73:09)
Treatment of Neighbors
- Christianity: Love your neighbor
- Islam: Deceive/enslave if they don’t convert
  (75:32)
Status of Women/Imago Dei
- Christianity: Men and women made in God’s image
- Islam: No doctrine of Imago Dei; women subjugated
  (76:27)
Afterlife
- Christianity: Freedom from sinful desires
- Islam: Afterlife is indulgence of fleshly desires
  (81:42)
Evidence and Reason
- Christianity: Encourages testing, evidence-based faith
- Islam: Prohibits testing the faith; circular logic
  (85:30)
Jerusalem/Heritage
- Christianity: Jesus’ earthly ministry in Jerusalem
- Islam: Muhammad never visited; no historical claim
  (86:27)

Quotes & Commentary:

Steve:
“These are not trite issues... These are things of existential importance. Where’s the word of God come from? What’s the nature of God? What’s the nature of man?” (58:07)
Aaron:
“It’s almost as if this ‘religion’ of Islam was devised for the sole purpose of thwarting, subverting every single main claim about the nuts and bolts of our faith.” (61:34)
Steve:
“Can these two worldviews share a culture together? Of course not. It’s going to require one to greatly diminish and dilute its own belief system to even contemplate that happening.” (93:27)

Final Exchange:

Todd:
“We keep telling ourselves lies that we absolutely love and we do it in the name of Jesus, tolerance, acceptance. While [Islamists are] shouting, we’re going to slit your throats and… rape your daughters.” (95:07)
Steve:
“Why is UAE so successful and modernized? Because it greatly watered down Islam. … Worldview is destiny.” (95:19)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Steve Dace (on the current state of the Right and his own exhaustion):
“I’m that Ben Affleck meme, man. I mean I’m just… I’m tired.” (19:19)
Wynton Hall (on AI as “holy writ” and bias):
“AI is different because now you are given sort of holy writ, right here is the definitive one answer. And the authoritative tone, whether it’s hallucinating … or not, is very, very definitive and confident.” (44:55)
Steve Dace (on “sharing” a culture with Islam):
“To coexist together in a culture requires one of them to acquiesce greatly their own belief system. … Even a cursory review of the two belief systems demonstrate their irreconcilable differences…” (93:37)

Timestamps for Major Segments

00:51 – Episode starts: show themes, promo, overview.
03:33–10:38 – Aaron’s news montage: Iran, Thune, agitation in US cities, transgender attorney chaos.
13:18 – Steve expresses disillusionment, low-energy GOP, need for conviction.
19:19 – Breakdown of the Right’s coalition problem, loss of values.
32:14–48:42 – Wynton Hall interview: AI, job loss, bias, and policy.
51:39–95:53 – “Theology Thursday”: 16 irreconcilable differences between Christianity and Islam.

Language, Tone, and Style

Language is direct, often sarcastic, and unapologetically polemic (“retardation” used repeatedly to refer to willful ignorance; “freak shows” for cultural extremes).
Tone is urgent, impassioned, bleakly humorous, often sardonic; a mixture of fatigue, warning, and resolve.
Dynamic between hosts is energetic, occasionally playful, but always centered on existential seriousness.

Conclusion

This episode is a deeply pessimistic but impassioned plea for conservative revival and honesty, insisting that only hard truths and robust values will suffice against a culture and a world in accelerating flux.
The discussion on AI and the interview with Wynton Hall frames technological change as both an opportunity and existential threat, while the extended analysis of Christianity versus Islam is presented as an exhaustive wake-up call: a warning against naïve multiculturalism and watering-down of any side’s core beliefs.

If you haven’t listened:

The episode is particularly valuable for those interested in the intersection of politics, technology, and religion—especially from an unapologetic, right-leaning perspective.
The final “Theology Thursday” segment stands out as a forceful delineation of fundamental worldview divides that, according to Deace and his team, cannot and should not be reconciled or glossed over.

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Transcript

Wittenhall (0:01)

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Steve Dace (0:51)

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Steve Dace (15:36)

Yeah. I mean. I mean, I saw another member of the high command got killed last night. Hosannas. Okay. But I would at least just like to see us fight for the streets of Minneapolis as hard as we're fighting for the streets of Tehran. Is there. Does that make me a terrible person or some kind of traitor? No, I don't think so. It does. I don't think it does. I'm. I have no idea why the president, who was a victim of the FISA program for a coup attempt, wants a clean FISA bill to continue that program. I have no idea why that's the case. No, I don't. I just completely disagree with the message that was given at the National Republican Campaign Committee last night by the President. I just completely disagree. We're going to have a great midterm. Going to grow our majorities. Right, sir, you need to tell those people, get your ass in gear and do your jobs, or we're getting killed in November. I know we're all laughing at the clip of that guy at the end, but you need to understand the level of conviction. Thank you. Whatever. You need to understand the. The. The level of conviction she has. The level of conviction it takes to. To. In. To embarrass yourself to this degree and then not feel that you are at all. I mean, this is the moment where King Theoden just shrugs his shoulders and says, what can men do against such reckless hate. I mean what do we do when what we're up against is just literally soulless and we'll just keep doing this over and over and over and over again. We have to match them with a commitment. And I'm just telling you, we just don't. And our leader needs to do better. Our general needs to do better. This, there has to be better than this. I mean I, I got home from small group last night. I see this poll, this post from some guy in the. High up in the Ron Paul organization going after claiming that vice president. Now, now here's the thing at the same time that Vance is being told that, you know, he is an automatic Jew hater because he's friends with Tucker Carlson, some guy high up in the Ron Paul organization and is tweeting out stuff about how Vance is secretly not America first and pro Jew because Jacob Reese's. I know Jacob Reese's Van Vance's chief of staff. I, I know Jacob, Jacob is a movement guy, right? He's. He's an ideological guy. But since Jacob is Jewish, he can't possibly be America First. And I'm. And you look at the replies and you see some of the very people that got blown out of Heritage for supporting Tucker are backing Jacob Reese's that against. It's just like who's, who's on everybody's side. I don't even know what, I don't even know what faction within my own party to. I mean I'm on. I mean I. Some PR guy at the FBI and then Cash Patel's girlfriend. The last two days have put out. I've read them fantastic threads and posts breaking down how much of an op. Much of this is that we're being divided by. But, but I just have no, I have no trust of the FBI or Cash Patel at all. I 100% do not believe Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. I don't. At least not in the way that we would define typically suicide, non coerced. And so I can't even use things to my advantage because I don't trust who forged the weapon. You see what I'm trying to say?

Steve Dace (19:19)

And I'm having a day today, okay? And I'm just being honest with you. I'm having a day where I'm just kind of like, I'm that Ben Affleck meme, man. I mean I'm just, I'm tired. I just. You're like, man, I got up, I'm here. We're gonna grind, we're gonna Fight. Because as much as I am vehemently frustrated by all of this. You know what? I shouldn't say this out loud, but I'm going to. I said this to you guys. I think it was just yesterday. I would love to call Dan Bongino up and just say, listen, you and me, let's just go clear the room of all these fools. I'd love to do that, but I. I love Dan. I. I'm not even sure we arrested the pipe bomber, let alone. Am I as. I. As let alone do I think that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself? You see what I'm saying? I mean, so I. I'm just. Man. And while I'm venting my spleen, let me say another thing I shouldn't probably say out loud. One of the main reasons we're here is because we decided in this era to be a coalition based on vested interest. Shared vested interests. And instead of shared values, and each of them. Because human beings are flawed systemically, each process of aligning comes with weaknesses. Right. Okay. I mean, have you ever tried, you know, I gave my buddy Lucas Miles, head of TPUSA Faith, the line Morgan Freeman's character has from the Dark Knight. Wait a minute. You thought your play was. You're convinced your boss is one of the richest, most powerful men in America and is also at Night coast playing as someone with his bare fist beating up the toughest hombres in this town, and your plan is to blackmail that individual? Good luck, right? I mean, Lucas, God bless him, is adamant about getting, you know, people united within the church around shared principles. I'm like, good luck. I mean, it's. It's not easy to build a coalition around shared values either. It's not. And if we're being honest, when we look at human history, most coalitions are successful because they have a shared foe. And you see that in our own find. You see that in our own founding. As soon as the redcoats left the left the shores of Yorktown and drove away, they celebrated. And then our founding fathers started sizing each other up and went after each other. Happened right away. Okay, you see this in the early church. Paul's like, some of you are acting like you're saved by me. You're saved by Peter, you're saved by Apollos. No, we're not your savior. Jesus is. I know. We've got these like incredible high pedestal views of the early church. Like they just were all so perfectly connected and they all knew the entire Bible that hadn't even been canonized yet off the top of their heads, like, preternaturally knew it. No, they were human beings and they broke down into camps, too. But what you're seeing right now is since we failed, frankly, as a movement based on shared principle, I think we demonstrated we failed at that.

Steve Dace (22:56)

I would argue we didn't even really try it. If we're being brutally honest. We didn't even really try it. Essentially, if a Republican establishment guy named Bush or Romney or McCain threw enough money around, you'd get anybody. I mean, the former people that are running the Heritage foundation ran cover for Romney a decade ago. That Romney, Romney care was actually a conservative policy and wrote a big white paper about not even making that up. Right. So the previous thing was we would just, you know, change our principles for food if somebody cashed a check around here. Okay, but. But now you're seeing the weaknesses of doing this on shared vested interest, because we've elevated a whole bunch of people on our side that we didn't really vet, that we don't really know anything about, like Joe Kent, Candace Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene. All these people kind of came out of nowhere, and the only thing they had in common was the appropriate slurpage ratio of Donald Trump. And these are now all the people. And so therefore, he gave them positions in Congress. He gave them positions in his own government to reward their loyalty and then would have, you know, what if everybody. I just mentioned, what have they done with it? They've turned around now and. And they've stabbed him and us in the back with it. Right. And so I'm just going to tell you right now, I'm at the juncture of the game. I'm going to keep playing. All right? It's almost halftime. It feels like we're down by 20 points here. Right? I'm going to keep going. Okay? But I. I need Coach. I need coach to give me a halftime talk, man. I need a halftime talk from the ages. I do. Just going to keep it real with you because I, I mean, I, I don't really see us fighting on any sustainable front whatsoever right now. Anything that truly matters to the American people, we're telling people that, hey, I, I know you can't sell your. Your home or even afford one, but the economy's just never been better, and this is the golden age. I, I just. I just. I'm not feeling it, man. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to keep doing it because I love my country, I love my family. I love all of you. I love what we believe. I know this is the last best outpost that we have for any of those beliefs. So I'm in. I mean, I'm. I'm down to the last breath, okay? But I'm in the corner right now. I'm at the point in the movie right now where I'm like, cut me, Mick. All right? My eyes are swollen. I don't see it. You know, I haven't gotten to the last page of the script, but right now I'm like, I can't see, Mick. Cut me, Mick. That's kind of where I'm at right now. All right? I'm not at the. If eyes can change, you can change. I'm not there right now. I'm at the Cut me, Mick. Right. I mean, I guess I don't know what to do. I just go out there and get punched some more, I guess, you know, I mean, that's. Am I alone here? Because that's kind of how I'm feeling right now.

Steve Dace (29:33)

Again, I'm I'm here to the end. This is what the Lord's called me to do. This is what the areas where he's gifted me and where he's placed me. So I'm going to the end of the race, okay? I'm just saying today, March 26th, and maybe I'll feel differently tomorrow. I don't know. But right now, again, I'm in the corner saying, cut me, Mick. Right now, all right? My eyes are swollen, okay? I'm stumbling around in the center of the ring. I'm gonna finish the fight. All right? That's what we do here, right? But I'm reeling a little bit right now. Just keeping it real. More in a moment. Hey there. It's me, John Stamos, in partnership with Cologuard. And a little birdie told me you're over 45. Listen, that's not old. It's really not. But it's an important age. If you're at average risk, that's when you start screening for colon cancer. And look, it's okay to be nervous, but it's not okay to ignore your own health. It's time to see if the Cologuard test can be an option for you to get screened. All right, I'm glad we had this little chat. All right. Back here on the Steve Day show. Powered by Birch Gold. And gold right now is being powered by all this uncertainty. I mean, in fact, 33 ounces of gold was $20,000 20 years ago. Now it's over $165,000. Why? Because the more uncertainty, the more people go to the ultimate hedge against that uncertainty, which is gold. And it stood the test of time for centuries. And Birch Gold Group can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered retirement account in gold. If you just text my Name, Steve to 989-898, you'll get started. No, no obligation, just information. A free info kit on gold from Birch Gold just to get you started. With an A plus rating from the Better Business Bureau. Tens of thousands of happy customers. You can let Birch Gold Group help you diversify with gold and give you that peace of mind. All right, Tech Steve to 989-898. Again, Tech Steve to 989898. The name of the book, Code Red, the Left, the Right China and the Race to control AI. Witten hall is with us from Breitbart News. He is the author of the book, joining us on location there in Dallas at cpac. Good to see you, Whiton. Thank you for joining us today, brother. How are you doing?

Wittenhall (36:56)

Yes, no, it's a really important question. So we just saw just literally a handful of days ago, President Trump releasing this AI action work framework. Excuse me. And what he really was talking about there was this ratepayer protection pledge. This gets at the issue that you just brought up, which is a very important issue. Working class people should not have to pay so that some billionaire can put an AI data center in the form of, you know, higher electric bills, higher water bills, energy costs generally for the whole community. And so what the President did was he brokered this ratepayer protection pledge, which would, which means that any of these AI data centers have to assume that cost, make sure that it does not overflow. And in fact, in many cases, what the President's arguing is that the modernization of the electrical grids and infrastructure around those AI data centers in those local communities will actually reduce the average working class person's energy bills. We'll see if that happens. Obviously, we've got to make sure that the devil will be in the details of implementation of how these tech companies do that. The ratepayer protection pledge. The other thing though, to your bigger point on just the overarching, you know, Dario Amade literally just two months ago said that he is expecting, he's the head of Anthropic, a giant. He says he is expecting 50% of white collar entry level jobs to be displaced in the next 12 months to 5 years. Mustafa Suleiman at Microsoft AI, he is their CEO. 12 to 18 months. He says white collar jobs tasks can be replaced. Now, to be clear, he's not saying that all jobs are going to go away in 12 to 18 months. What he's saying is that the AI will be advanced enough with agentic AI to automate the work of white collar cognitive tasks. Now it'll be up to those corporations how fast they implement that automation and diffuse that technology. But this is real and the concerns are real. Even if you think that's all hype marketing, right? Let's play the devil's advocate. Let's say even if we think, well, that's just a bunch of marketing, these guys are trying to raise capital. The issue for us in the conservative movement is that if you start seeding this narrative that this mass job apocalypse is inevitable and coming. It really builds up a lot of steam moving forward for proponents of things like mass wealth redistribution, universal basic income, ubi and we know that Silicon Valley has been very, very active in studying and promoting those kinds of wealth redistribution resets. But also economically here in America. So it's a big issue because on

Wittenhall (40:48)

yeah. And it's, and it's a double dimension. So one, the AI data center build out, you could argue in at least in the short term is going to have upward lift for the trades. And so you're seeing in some places 30% pay premiums on things for dry haul, dry wall hangers, concrete pours, electricians, plumbers, H Vac. So you are seeing some of that uplift in that. The question of course though is how long that lasts once those data centers are in place. But it's, it is the, it is the case that yes, right now the kind of jobs you're talking about do affect sort of a left leaning Democrat Silicon Valley elites and coders, Swiss software engineers, swe. Those people that we know do not support conservatism 85% of all political donations in big tech in Silicon Valley do flow to left candidates and Democratic candidates. Doesn't mean that there aren't some pockets of, you know, right leaning or libertarian leaning people that donate in Silicon Valley to conservative or Republican candidates. But it is an overwhelmingly one party state, as has famously been stated. Now the question though is that once you get agentic AI, and I want to be just real clear what I'm saying, this is where the cursor takes over, opens up your browser, it can set up an llc, it can open up a banking account, it can create branding, a website, a dropship for your Shopify account. Literally do end to end 24 hours a day. That's what Open Call, we've heard a lot about. Open Call, that development cowork for Anthropic. These are now at a somewhat nascent state. There's still a lot of issues they're still working through, but they are accelerating very rapidly. And this is a very different type of technology than we have seen. Jensen Huang, the head of Nvidia, the richest company that's ever existed in human history, just literally days ago at the conference said that this is the open claw, this agentic kind of workflow is the most pivotal transformation he has seen in computing within, within the last generation. And so we're going to see, we're going to see if that's real or not. But what I, what I try to do in Code Red is explain to people that political weaponization of AI, how it can indoctrinate or educate in, in for our children, how it's going to play out in national security, in the AI warfare space, certainly in the job space. And then really even down to things like how it's even creeping into faith and our churches and our worship, there are now AI avatars in confessional booths, there are now, quote, churches being set up to worship AI as a, which is sort of shocking and horrifying and dystopian. So this is moving very fast. You were right to point out the speed. And I think we just got to be coached up to understand this is a 5D chess game that's moving at a very, very rapid pace.

Wittenhall (44:55)

You're exactly right, Steve, that the, so the opening chapter of Code Red is all about what you're talking about, which is the woke AI bias. And it's even worse because you pointed out that with a Google search at least I get to choose from links, right? I mean they're all biased and they're all going to front load the left leaning sources. But at least I have a choice in that AI is different because now you are given sort of holy writ, right here is the definitive one answer. And the authoritative tone, whether it's hallucinating, in other words, giving false information or not, is very, very definitive and confident. It sounds like a con man is someone who presents himself in a very confident way but actually has nefarious motivations. One of the things that we did at Breitbart when we launched this book was to show I did this study using Google Gemini because Google, as you rightly point out, is sort of one of the worst offenders here. And I asked the deep research to study the public facing statements of the current 170 senators in the US Senate and determine which, if any, have violated its hate speech policy. I know you're going to be shocked, Steve. You're going to be shocked to know that Google's Gemini only found that Republicans violate in the Senate its hate speech policy. No Democrats, they're all pure as the driven snow. Seven Republican senators and then for four kicks, it hallucinated and thought that J.D. vance and Marco Rubio are still current senators. Obviously they're not. They're the Vice President and the Secretary of State. And it added them for number eight. Number nine, this is a real serious problem and it would be funny if it weren't so serious. Number one, young people who don't have a deep knowledge of history or a set of background on facts are going to be able to see this information and assume it to be true. Number two, I looked into the chain of reasoning to figure out how the Gemini actually came up with this. What was it leaning on? Splc, The Southern Poverty Law center, you know, Human Rights Watch, Glad, Wikipedia, a host of left and left leaning sources that it had baked into its algorithm. And then the final thing, and this is the one that I think is really outrageous. Your tax dollars in our and mine are going to Google how in the form of billion dollar tax, taxpayer funded cloud computing, federal agency computing, servers, all the rest of it, they have massive, massive deals with the United States government. And my view would be this. Look, you may have a right in a free market capitalist society to make a biased product, but we should not have to be forced to subsidize and fund the very companies that hate our guts, hate our values, anathematize themselves against half of the values of the American people. As you just pointed out, Google of course owns YouTube as well as others, the parent company Alphabet. So President Trump in his AI action plan said we should not have ideologically biased AI receiving taxpayer procurements and contracts from, from, from taxpayers. And I agree with that. I think most conservatives would say why would be, why would you give money to the very people that hate us? So we've got to be vigilant on this because as you pointed out, it's moving so fast. And you're right, I mean they're biased against not just you. They've been biased even, you know, they muzzled the President, United States.

Steve Dace (48:42)

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Aaron McIntyre (89:55)

We have been having this hour a worldview conversation, a theology conversation, and I think it's pretty irrefutable that there are irreconcilable differences between Christianity and Islam. I think any objective observer can make that inference when it comes to geopolitics. If you have a massive platform and you are invited to Doha, you're invited to Riyadh, and you have a wonderful experience there. Beautiful in their own ways. When it comes to geopolitics, I think you have to ask yourself, when you have a beautiful experience, is this because these people are more Qatari than they are Islamist? Are these people more Saudi than they are Islamists? Are they more Emirati than they are Islamist? Or are they Islamist, but they're courting me? They're Islamist, but they're, they have a, maybe a subterfuge agenda. I happen to think I have my own schizo unifying theories for the last 50, 60, 70 years of the Middle east that I will say for another day, if you asked me, gun to my head, I think people like Mohammed bin Salman, I think he's maybe more Saudi than he is Islamist. Definitely. When it comes to the United Arab Emirates, they are more Emirati than they are Islamist. I would say so. And you just pointed that out. You made that own your own case for that. I think the jury may be still out on Qatari or on Qatar, although I still maybe lean a little bit more Islamist than I do Qatar. You see what I'm saying here? Do they care more about making sure the oil and the money flows so that they have money to buy some really cool things and build some really cool buildings than they are about the spread of Islam? I think in some of these cases, in some of these Gulf coast countries, I think the answer to that question is yes, they more care about the money than they do maybe the spread of Islam, and they'll play footsie with it in their own country just so they can save face for the boonies, the true believers, the fundamentalists out in the boonies in the Arabian Peninsula. But when it comes to our country, if you go over there and you're courted and you have a beautiful time, a wonderful time, stay in a 6, 7, 8, 9 star hotel, just have a beautiful time. It might be the height of naivety to conclude, therefore, that Sharia is the way to go.