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Hello and welcome to Storytime for Grown Ups. I'm Faith Moore and this season we're reading David Copperfield by Charles Dickens. Each episode I'll read a few chapters from the book, pausing from time to time to give brief explanations so it's easier to follow along. It's like an audiobook with built in notes. So brew a pot of tea, find a cozy chair and settle in. It's story time. Hello. Welcome back. I hope you're cozy and warm wherever you are. If you're, especially if you're in the path of this snowstorm that we're having, I hope that you are inside and wrapped up warm and that you've got your cup of tea or your your hot drink of choice and that you're snuggled in and ready to listen to more of this book. I am ready to read you more of this book and to talk about this book with you. I'm so happy to be here always. I'm always so glad to be here and it feels like such a wonderful cozy place to be when it's gonna be as cold as it is outside right now. So thanks for being here. I'm glad you're here. We are going to keep reading. Today we're going to be reading chapter six of David Copperfield. Last time we read chapter five, it's a bit of a shorter chapter. We've had a couple of really long chapters lately, so a shorter chapter is in order and but we do have some questions to talk about before we do that and then we'll dive right in before we do that though, just a reminder that tomorrow, if you're listening in real time, tomorrow is tea time. So Tuesday, January 27th at 8pm Eastern. That's over in our online community which is called the Drawing Room because it's where we withdraw after the podcast to keep on talking about this book and books in general and life. I answer your questions. It's a really fun, cozy time. We chat for about an hour. You get to talk to me if you want. You can also just listen if you prefer not to talk. I get to talk to you and I always really, really enjoy it. 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And the more people reading these great books and talking about them together and thinking about them, the more we will be able to change the world. I really believe that reading these great books will change the world. So be a part of that and bring your friends. Okay, so we are going to be talking a bit about chapter five. I've got some great comments to read to you and to discuss and then we're going to be reading chapter six. So let's begin by reminding ourselves of what we read last time. Here is the recap. Alright, so where we left off on the way out of town, Peggy stops the carriage that Davey's riding in to give him one last hug and a bag with some food and some money in it. So then Davey travels with Mr. Barkis, the carrier, as far as Yarmouth, and on the way Mr. Barkis implies to Davy that he would like to marry Peggy, and he gets Davy to let Peggy know in a letter that Barkis is willing to. Davy doesn't know what this means, but he sends Peggotty a letter that says that at Yarmouth he is served a meal, but the waiter takes advantage of him and eats his food, drinks his ale and cheats him out of some of his money. Then he goes in a stagecoach as far as London where at first there's no one to pick him up, but then a strange man in ill fitting clothes shows up and says that he is a master at Salem House and he's here to take Davey to school. Davey explains he's had nothing to eat, so this man, whose name it turns out, is Mr. Mel, Mr. Mel takes him first to buy some food and then to the house of a poor, poor old woman who cooks the food that Davey bought. Davey eats and as Mr. Mel is playing his flute, Davey falls asleep. He's woken up eventually and taken with Mr. Mel in another carriage where they finally end up at the school. Davey is told that all the other boys are at home on vacation and that Davey has been sent here during the Vacation. As a punishment, he is given a sign to wear on his back that says that he bites and he's mortified to have to wear it. He's terrified of the time when all the boys will come back and discover that he is someone who bites. But for now, he's alone in the school with Mr. Mel, doing lessons and being very lonely. All right, so I'm going to read 3 comments today. The first one comes from Corinthia. She says, poor Davey. As I listened to you read the story of the waiter abusing his power, stealing Davey's food and tricking him out of his hard earned money, I was livid. It made me think about how many adults, both then and now, exploit and take advantage of innocent children. I appreciate how Dickens exposes the harsh realities of the world with such honesty. His work feels like half a story, half a social commentary on the brokenness of society. The second one comes from the drawing room, which is our online community, which I was just talking about. And this person goes by the handle Patty. She says, I thought it so hilarious that David wrote Barkis is willing twice in that letter to Peggy. If I didn't have a few notes along the way, I might have been just as confused as 8 year old dav it. And this last one also comes from the drawing room, from the handle pinelikethetree. I think the sign is exceptionally cruel. So she's talking about the sign that David has to wear at the school that says, take care of him. He bites. That was meant to just humiliate him. And it's so sad that it works. Davey stresses about it so much. It's a horrible mind game. So sad. Okay, so yeah, things aren't looking great for Davey, are they? We had really hoped that heading off to school might be good for him, right? That the school might be a nice place with kind teachers and new friends where Davey can find some community and some kindness, which he is clearly sorely in need of. And it actually might still be that we don't actually know yet because the kids are all away and most of the teachers are away too, except for Mr. Mel. So it may actually turn out that Davey's fears aren't founded, so there is still hope. But so far, Davey is still in a pretty bad place. I mean, Mr. Mel actually doesn't seem that bad. He seems sort of distracted by his own problems and kind of strange. He's clearly very poor. He's obviously one of the lowest members of the faculty since he had to stay behind for the holidays. And Everyone else got to go on vacation. So he's kind of this like sad, distracted, weird guy, but he's not cruel. He's actually fairly kind to Davey. So that's hopeful too. But this thing with the sign is ominous, as is the guy with the wooden leg who seems intent on making sure that everyone's sitting sees the sign, even if they're just like a delivery person or something. And I think it's important to remember that it was Mr. Murdstone who requested that Davey wear the sign. It wasn't necessarily something that the school would have done on its own, so that's potentially hopeful too. And Mr. Mel says that he's very sorry that Davey has to wear it. But like as Pine Licked Tree points out, it's really very cruel to make Davey wear this sign. And it's an awful way to start because if the other boys and the teachers believe that he really is this kind of wild boy who bites people, then he'll have to fight against that in order to be part of the community. But we don't know yet what the reaction of the other boys and teachers is going to be, so we don't need to despair yet on that front. But we can be angry on Davey's behalf. I think that Mr. Murdstone has kind of extended his negative influence and his misunderstanding of who. Who David is into what was meant to be like a new start for David. And like Corinthia says in her letter, I think we've had a lot of opportunities to feel a kind of righteous anger on Davey's part and anger that's made even more poignant because a lot of the time Davey doesn't even understand that he's being taken advantage of or that people are treating him badly. And that's really hard to watch from an adult perspective, I think. Which actually brings me to something that I want to just quickly address for a moment before we talk more about this chapter specifically, which is that I have been getting a lot of letters lately from people who are worried that this book is just going to be like an 800 page slog of terrible things happening to David, one after the other after the other. In other words, many of you are writing in to totally understandably say it's hard to listen to these descriptions of all these horrible things that are happening to David and you're not sure that you can make it for 800 pages if that is all that that book is going to be. And you guys know how I feel about spoilers. And if you don't it's that I absolutely hate them. So I feel conflicted when I get these questions because answering them does sort of feel like giving you spoilers. But I do want to just say that I wouldn't choose a book that was just like a total depressing slog. Right? That. That's not me. That's not the kind of book that I want to share with you. So I can tell you that this book is not a total depressing slog. Okay? Bad things are going to happen to David in this book. They already have. They will. But good things are going to happen to him, too. Good follows bad. Sometimes bad follows good, and then good happens again. It's a life. It's the story of David's life. Right? We talked about that at the very beginning in the intro. So it's going to be funny, it's going to be sad, it's going to be poignant and beautiful and uplifting. I'm really not in the business of reading you things that are just depressing for no reason, I promise. So I hope that you will stick with this even when hard things are happening to David, because the other thing that I want to say about this, and then I will move on. But the truth is that bad things actually do happen in life. Terrible things and also good things. Right? But a story that's only ever, like, rainbows and flowers and stuff, it's not going to feel real. The things that make classics classic is that they offer us some kind of universal truth about the actual real world, even if they take place in, like, a fantasy world or something. They talk to us about life and the world, and they help us to live our own lives better or with more understanding, or they give us hope in the darkness or whatever it is. So good books don't sugarcoat the world, but they don't depress us for no reason either. Okay? So this book is an absolute classic. So it does what I'm talking about. It talks to us about the real world as it is, and it teaches us about how we can live in it. It'll teach different people different things. It'll speak to us in different ways, because that's how the classics work. But a story about a boy who has an idyllic childhood and then goes on to have an idyllic adulthood is actually not a very good story. And remember, it's true that awful things have happened to Davy recently. But already in the book, we have had descriptions of his wonderful childhood. Before Mr. Murdstone showed up, we had his really Wonderful visit to the Peggotty family. There have already been bright lights amongst the darkness and I swear there will be more bright lights. Lots more. So I did just want to mention that, that this is not like the world's most depressing book or anything. It's actually an uplifting book. But also bad things are going to happen to Davy too sometimes because it's a story about life, his life. And Corinthia's point is really valid as well that there's social commentary here too. Dickens was a huge supporter of children's welfare. We talked about this before and later I will tell you which parts of David's childhood are modeled on Dickens childhood, but want to do that yet because it would give away a few things that are still coming up. But that is all to say that Dickens is writing from a real place of experience and definitely has an agenda in the sense that he believes that children should not be treated the way that Davy is being treated at this point in the story. But like all great writers, he doesn't preach at us. He just tells us a story that causes us to feel the truth of what is right and what is wrong. So the writers among you take note. That's how you do that. Okay, but anyway, back to the chapter. Okay, so to my mind, chapter five marks a kind of transition point for Davie. It's the end of something and the beginning of something else. We had that a little when Davy returned home and found that his mother was married and everything was different, but he was still living at home and he was still trying to be part of the family and all of this. But now he's essentially on his own in the world. And that marks a real shift, I think his, his kind of very young childhood is now over and a new phase of his childhood has begun. And as Corinthia and Patty point out in their comments, Davey really isn't ready for it. And I mean, what 8 year old would be, right? Because even though I'm saying a new phase of his childhood is beginning, what's actually happening is that he's being asked to act much more like an adult way before he's ready to do that. And it, it builds sort of gradually throughout the course of chapter five. The first instance of this is actually really funny. This is what Patti was talking about in her letter. This thing with Mr. Barkis, the carrier and Dickens writing is so wonderful here. And in all of these instances, actually, because he narrates the whole thing through Davey's eyes. And Davey has no clue what's going on. But he gives us enough details so that we can piece together what's happening from an adult perspective. So this thing with barking is the first and really kind of harmless one of these instances. You know, Peggy shows up with the cakes and the money. And again, we just love Peggy. She's the best, right? But she shows up and she hugs Davey and runs off again. And the minute Barkis tastes one of these cakes that she has brought, he decides that Peggy is the woman for him when he wants to marry her, which is funny in and of itself. And then he tries to get Davey to alert Peggy to this by having Davey write to her that Barkis is willing. David has no idea what this means, but he passes it on anyway. And his letter is so sweet and innocent because he has no idea what he's talking about, but he is diligently passing on this message. Here is what he My dear Peggy, I have come here safe. Barkis is willing. My love to mama, yours affectionately, P.S. he says he particularly wants you to know Barkis is willing. And if you're not reading along that second Barkis is willing is in all caps, right? So he's got no clue what he's talking about. And it's hilarious. But it is the first instance of David out in the world by himself being totally out of his depth. And he goes from this harmless version of that to the much more insidious version of the waiter at the inn who, as Corinthia says, completely takes advantage of him. On the one hand, Davy is being treated by the innkeeper, for example, as a much older person, right? He has been provided for by Mr. Murdstone with a good dinner in a private room, which is how a gentleman on a journey would have been treated at an inn. And he feels this. He's aware that he's suddenly being treated like an adult. Okay, here is what he. I felt it was taking a liberty to sit down with my cap in my hand on the corner of the chair nearest the door. And when the waiter laid a cloth on purpose for me and put a set of casters on it, I think I must have turned red all over with modesty. So on the one hand he's suddenly being treated like an adult, but on the other hand, this waiter can see right away that he's really still a child. And instead of being kind and helping him, which he might do if he was a kind person, he actually just takes advantage of him by tricking him into giving away his food and his drink. Overcharging him for the paper and ink and for the tip. And this is the worst one, I think, at least in my opinion. He also scares him for no reason at all about the school that he's going to. He says, here's a quote. He says, oh, Lord, that's the school where they broke the boy's ribs. Two ribs. A little boy. He was. I should say he was. Let me see. How old are you? About right. Obviously, he has no idea what school David is going to. There's tons of schools near London. So he's just messing with him, which I think is the worst one, because he doesn't even get anything out of it. He doesn't get any money. He's just being cruel. So again, here is David completely out of his depth, but this is a much more harmful example of that. And then he shows up at the station at the end of his journey and there's no one there to pick him up. And he starts to wonder whether he's actually going to starve to death there because he's. He's totally alone in the world. Here's what he Supposing nobody should ever fetch me. How long would they consent to keep me there? Would they keep me long enough to spend seven shillings? Should I sleep at night in one of those wooden bins with the other luggage and wash myself at the pump in the yard in the morning? Or should I be turned out every night and expected to come again, to be left till called for when the office opened next day? Supposing there was no mistake in the case and Mr. Murdstone had devised the. This plan to get rid of me. What should I do? Okay, so first he's just sort of harmlessly confused about adult things like courtship and marriage. Then he's taken advantage of by someone who sees how innocent he is and decides to use that to his own advantage. Then he's just completely left all alone and has no resources for figuring out what to do about it. And so it's kind of like this very rude awakening from childhood into an adulthood that is happening to him far too soon. And he's aware of this transition because the life he used to live now seems to be kind of like fading away from him. Here's what he. Sometimes I remember I resigned myself to thoughts of home and Peggy and to endeavoring in a confused, blind way to recall how I had felt and what sort of boy I used to be before I bit Mr. Murdstone, which I couldn't satisfy myself about by any means. Means I seem to have bitten him in such a remote antiquity, which is really realistic, I think. Like, have you ever had like a super eventful week or something and realized that something or other only happened on Monday of this same week when now it's Friday or whatever. It's like a super extreme example of that. He's been tossed out into the world and it feels like his old life was some kind of dream. But I do think that even though at the end of this chapter he has to face that awful placard sent by the awful Mr. Murdstone, and even though he's there at Holland time and therefore very lonely, I do think that there is a little bit of hope. At the end of this chapter, someone does come to collect him at the station, right? That person is Mr. Mel. And he takes his hand and he helps him get food and he lets him sleep. And he's fairly kind to him at the school. And even though he's nervous about the boys coming back, they may not hate him because of the placard. I mean, they may actually like him more for it. They might have sympathy for him often that's the case, right? Kids have sympathy for each other when. When they're in trouble, often. So maybe they'll like him even more because he's had to start off this way. Who knows? So it's not a total disaster, but it's not great. And it's clear that David is not at all ready for this sort of forced adulthood that he's embarked on. And so hopefully being at school will allow him to be more of a child again, even though he doesn't have his mother or his beloved Peggy with him. So now let's find out. Okay, let's see if the other boys are going to come back in this chapter. Let's. Let's see if the headmaster, Mr. Kriequel, comes back. And let's see what happens when they do. And of course, please don't forget to write to me. It's faithkmore.com and then click on Contact. Or you can scroll into the show notes and click the link that's there. It's the same link. And get in touch. Tell me all the things that you're thinking when you hear this chapter. Your questions, your thoughts, the feelings that come up for you. I love to get your responses and your reactions. So please, please do write in. And I hope that I will see you tomorrow at tea time at 8pm Eastern. I hope that we will get to chat with each other there. All right, let's get started with chapter six of David Copperfield by Charles Dickens. It's story time. Chapter six. I enlarge my circle of acquaintance. I had led this life about a month when the man with the wooden leg began to stump about with a mop and a bucket of water, from which I inferred that preparations were making to receive Mr. Creakle and the boys. Okay, so it's time for the headmaster and the other students to come back from their vacation. I was not mistaken, for the mop came into the schoolroom before long and turned out Mr. Mel and me, who lived where we could and got on how we could for some days, during which we were always in the way of two or three young women who had rarely shown themselves before and were so continually in the midst of dust that I sneezed almost as much as if Salem House had been a great snuff box. One day I was informed by Mr. Mel that Mr. Creakle would be home that evening. In the evening after tea I heard that he was come before bedtime. I was fetched by the man with the wooden leg to appear before him. Mr. Creakle's part of the house was a good deal more comfortable than ours, and he had a snug bit of garden that looked pleasant after the dusty playground, which was such a desert in miniature that I thought no one but a camel or a dromedary could have felt at home in. Seemed to me a bold thing even to take notice that the passage looked comfortable as I went on my way, trembling, to Mr. Creakle's presence, which so abashed me when I was ushered into it that I hardly saw Mrs. Creel or Ms. Cre. Creakle, who were both there in the parlour or anything, but Mr. Creakle, a stout gentleman with a bunch of watch, chain and seals, meaning he's got a lot of fancy chains on his clothing, in an armchair with a tumbler and bottle beside him.
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So said Mr. Creakle, this is the young gentleman whose teeth are to be filed. Turn him round.
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The wooden legged man turned me about so as to exhibit the placard hurt and having afforded time for a full survey of it, turned me about again with my face to Mr. Creakle and posted himself at Mr. Creakle's side. Mr. Creakle's face was fiery and his eyes were small and deep in his head. He had thick veins in his forehead, a little nose, and a large chin. He was bald on the top of his head and had some thin, wet looking Hair that was just turning grey brushed across each temple, temple, so that the two sides interlaced on his forehead. But the circumstance about him which impressed me most was that he had no voice but spoke in a whisper. The exertion this cost him, or the consciousness of talking in that feeble way, meant his angry face so much more angry and his thick veins so much thicker when he spoke, that I am not surprised on looking back at this peculiarity striking me as his chief 11.
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Now, said Mr. Creakle, what's the report of this boy?
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There is nothing against him yet, returned the man with the wooden leg. There has been no opportunity. I thought Mr. Creakle was disappointed. I thought Mrs. And Ms. Creakle, at whom I now glanced for the first time and who were both thin and quiet, were not disappointed. It come here, sir, said Mr. Creakle, beckoning to me. Come here, said the man with the wooden leg, repeating the gesture.
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I have the happiness of knowing your.
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Father in law, whispered Mr. Creel, taking me by the ear. Okay, so Davey's father in law is Mr. Murdstone, so we would say stepfather. But they're saying father in law.
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And a worthy man he is, and a man of a strong character. He knows me and I know him. Do you know me, hey?
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Said Mr. Creel, pinching my ear with ferocious playfulness. Not yet, sir, I said, flinching with the pain. Not yet, hey, repeated Mr. Creakle.
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But you will soon, hey.
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You will soon, hey, repeated the man with the wooden leg. I afterwards found that he generally acted with his strong voice as Mr. Creakle's interpreter to the boys. I was very much frightened and said I hoped so if he pleased. I felt all this while as if my ear were blazing, he pinched it so hard.
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I tell you what I am, whispered.
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Mr. Creakle, letting it go at last with a screw at parting that brought the water into my eyes. I'm a tartar, meaning he's not to be messed with a tartar, said the man with the wooden leg.
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When I say I'll do a thing, I do it, said Mr. Creakle. And when I say I will have a thing done, Done, I will have it done.
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We'll have a thing done. I will have it done, repeated the man with the wooden leg.
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A determined character, said Mr. Creakle. That's what I am. I do my duty. That's what I do, my flesh and blood.
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He looked at Mrs. Creakle as he said this.
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When it rises against me, me is not my flesh and Blood I discard it. Has that fellow.
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To the man with the wooden leg.
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Ben here again?
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Nope, Was the answer.
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No, said Mr. Creakle. He knows better. He knows me. Let him keep away, I said. Let him keep away, said Mr. Creakle.
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Striking his hand upon the table and looking at Mrs. Creak.
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For he knows me. Now you have begun to know me too, my young friend, and you may go Take him away.
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I was very glad to be ordered away, for Mrs. And Ms. Greekle were both wiping their eyes, and I felt as uncomfortable for them as I did for myself. But I had a petition on my mind which concerned me so nearly that I couldn't help saying, though I wondered at my own courage. If you please, sir, Mr. Creakle whispered, ha, what's this? And bent his eyes upon me as if he would have burnt me up with them. If you please, sir, I faltered, if I might be allowed. I'm very sorry indeed, sir, for what I did to take this writing off before the boys come back. Whether Mr. Creakle was in earnest or whether he only did it to frighten me, I don't know. But he made a burst out of his chair, before which I precipitately retreated without waiting for the escort of the man with the wooden leg, and never once stopped until I reached my own bedroom, where, finding I was not pursued, I went to bed, as it was time, and lay quaking for a couple of hours. Next morning Mr. Sharp came back. Mr. Sharp was the first master and superior to Mr. Mel. Okay, meaning he ranks higher than him in the hierarchy of the school. School. Mr. Mel took his meals with the boys, but Mr. Sharp dined and supped at Mr. Creakle's table. He was a limp, delicate looking gentleman, I thought, with a good deal of nose and a way of carrying his head on one side as if it were a little too heavy for him. His hair was very smooth and wavy. But I was informed by the very first boy who came back that it was a wig, a second hand one, he said, and that Mr. Sharp went out every Saturday afternoon to get it curled. It was no other than Tommy Traddles who gave me this piece of intelligence. He was the first boy who returned. He introduced himself by informing me that I should find his name on the right hand corner of the gate, over the top bolt. Upon that I said, traddles. To which he replied the same. And then he asked me for a full account of myself and family. It was a happy circumstance for me that Traddles came back first. He enjoyed my placard so much that he saved me from the embarrassment of either disclosure or concealment moment by presenting me to every other boy who came back, great or small, immediately on his arrival in the form of introduction. Look here. Here's a game. Happily, too, the greater part of the boys came back low spirited and were not so boisterous at my expense as I had expected. Some of them certainly did dance about me like wild Indians, and the greater part could not resist the temptation of pretending that I was a dog and patting and soothing me lest I should bite and saying, lie down, sir, and calling me Towser. This was naturally confusing among so many strangers and cost me some tears, but on the whole it was much better than I had anticipated. I was not considered as being formally received into the school, however, until J. Steerforth arrived before this boy, who was reputed to be a great scholar and was very good looking and at least half a dozen years my senior. I was carried as before a magistrate. Great. He inquired under a shed in the playground into the particulars of my punishment and was pleased to express his opinion that it was a jolly shame for which I became bound to him ever afterwards. What money have you got, Copperfield? He said, walking aside with me. When he had disposed of my affair in these terms, I told him seven shillings. You had better give it to me to take care of, he said. At least you can if you like. Like you needn't if you don't like. I hastened to comply with his friendly suggestion and opening Peggy's purse, turned it upside down into his hand. Do you want to spend anything now? He asked me. No, thank you, I replied. You can if you like, you know, said Steerforth. Say the word. No, thank you, sir, I repeated. Perhaps you'd like to spend a couple of shillings or so in a bottle of current wine by and by. Up in the bedroom, said Steerforth. You belong to my bedroom, I find it certainly had not occurred to me before, but I said, yes, I should like that. Very good, said Steerforth. You'll be glad to spend another shilling or so in almond cakes, I dare say, I said. Yes, I should like that too. And another shilling or so in biscuits and another in fruit. Eh? Said Steerforth. I say, young Copperfield, you're going to it. I smiled because he smiled, but I was a little troubled in my mind, too. Well, said Steerforth, we must make it stretch as far as we can, that's all. I'll do my best in my power for you. I can go out when I like. And I'll smuggle the prog in. With these words he put the money in his pocket and kindly told me not to make myself uneasy. He would take care it should be all right. He was as good as his word. If that were all right, which I had a secret misgiving, was nearly all wrong long for I feared it was a waste of my mother's two half crowns, though I had preserved the piece of paper they were wrapped in, which was a precious saving. When we went upstairs to bed, he produced the whole seven shillings worth and laid it out on my bed in the moonlight, saying, there you are, young Copperfield, and a royal spread you've got. I couldn't think of doing the honours of the feast at my time of life, while he was by my hand shook at the very thought of him. It I begged him to do me the favour of presiding, and my request being seconded by the other boys who were in that room. He acceded to it and sat upon my pillow, handing round the viands with perfect fairness, I must say, and dispensing the currant wine in a little glass without a foot, which was his own property, as to me, I sat on his left hand and the rest were grouped about us on the nearest beds and on the floor. How well I recollect our sitting there, there talking in whispers, or their talking and my respectfully listening, I ought rather to say the moonlight falling a little way into the room through the window, painting a pale window on the floor, and the greater part of us in shadow. Except when Steerforth dipped a match into a phosphorus box when he wanted to look for anything on the board and shed a blue glare over us that was gone directly. A certain mysterious feeling feeling consequent on the darkness. The secrecy of the revel and the whisper in which everything was said steals over me again, and I listen to all they tell me with a vague feeling of solemnity and awe, which makes me glad that they are all so near and frightens me, though I feign to laugh when Traddles pretends to see a ghost in the corner. I heard all kinds of things about the school and all belonging to it. I heard that Mr. Creakle had not preferred his claim to being a Tartar without reason. Reason. That he was the sternest and most severe of masters, that he laid about him right and left every day of his life, charging in among the boys like a trooper and slashing away unmercifully, that he knew nothing himself but the art of slashing. Being more ignorant, J. Searforth said than the lowest boy in the school, that he had been a good many years ago, a small hop dealer in the borough, and had taken to the schooling business after being bankrupt in hops, and making away with Mrs. Creakle's money, with a good deal more of that sort, which I wondered how they knew. I heard that the man with the wooden leg, whose name was Tungay, was an obstinate barbarian who had formerly assisted in the hop business, but had come into the scholastic line with Mr. Creakle in consequence, as was supposed among the boys, of his having broken his leg in Mr. Creakle's service, and having done a deal of dishonest work for him, and knowing his secrets. I heard that with the single exception of Mr. Creak Creakle, Tungay considered the whole establishment, masters and boys, as his natural enemies, and that the only delight of his life was to be sour and malicious. I heard that Mr. Creakle had a son who had not been Tungay's friend, and who, assisting in the school, had once held some remonstrance with his father on an occasion when its discipline was very cruelly exercised, and was supposed besides to have protested against his father's usage of his money. Mother. I heard that Mr. Creakle had turned him out of doors in consequence, and that Mrs. And Ms. Creakle had been in a sad way ever since. But the greatest wonder that I heard of Mr. Creakle was there being one boy in the school on whom he never ventured to lay a hand, and that boy being J. Steerforth. Steerforth himself confirmed this when it was stated, and said that he should like to begin to see him do it, on being asked by a mild boy, not me, how he would proceed if he did begin to see him do it. He dipped a match into his phosphorus box on purpose to shed a glare over his reply, and said he would commence by knocking him down with a blow on the forehead from the seven and sixpenny ink bottle that was always on the mantelpiece. We sat in the dark for some time, breathless. I heard that Mr. Sharp and Mr. Mell were both supposed to be wretchedly paid, and that when there was hot and cold meat for dinner at Mr. Creakle's table, Mr. Sharp was always expected to say he preferred cold, which was again corroborated by J. Steerforth, the only parlour boarder, meaning he has more privileges than the other boys. I heard that Mr. Sharp's wig didn't fit him, and that he needn't be so Bounceable, somebody else said bumptious about it, because his own red hair was very plainly to be seen behind. I heard that one boy who was a coal merchant's son came as a set off against the coal bill will, and was called on that account exchange or barter, a name selected from the arithmetic book as expressing this arrangement. I heard that the table beer was a robbery of parents and the pudding an imposition. I heard that Ms. Creakle was regarded by the school in general as being in love with Steerforth. And I am sure, as I sat in the dark thinking of his nice voice and his fine face and his easy manner and his curling hair, I thought it very likely. I heard that Mr. Mel was not a bad sort of fellow, but hadn't a sixpence to bless himself with, and that there was no doubt that old Mrs. Mel, his mother, was as poor as Job. I thought of my breakfast then and what had sounded like my Charlie. But I was, I am glad to remember, as mute as a mouse about it. Meaning he realizes now that the old woman Mr. Mel took him to visit was Mr. Mel's mother. But he doesn't tell the boys anything about that. The hearing of all this and a good deal more outlasted the banquet. Some time the greater part of the guests had gone to bed as soon as the eating and drinking were over. And we, who had remained whispering and listening, half undressed, at last betook ourselves to bed too. Good night, young Copperfield, said Steerforth. I'll take care of you. You're very kind, I gratefully returned. I'm very much obliged to you. You. You haven't got a sister, have you? Said Steerforth, yawning. No, I answered. That's a pity, said Steerforth. If you had had one, I should think she would have been a pretty timid little bright eyed sort of girl. I should have liked to know her. Good night, young Copperfield. Good night, sir, I replied. I thought of him very much after I went to bed and raised myself. I recollect to look at him where he lay in the moonlight night with his handsome face turned up and his head reclining easily on his arm. He was a person of great power in my eyes. That was, of course the reason of my mind running on him. No veiled future dimly glanced upon him in the moonbeams. There was no shadowy picture of his footsteps in the garden that I dreamed of walking in all night. Thank you so much for listening. I'd love to know what you thought of the chapters. Is there anything you'd like me to clarify. Did something particularly interest you? Please go to my website, faithkmoore.com click on contact and send me your questions and thoughts. Or you can click on the link in the Show Notes to contact me. I'll feature one or two of your entries at the start of the next episode. Speaking of links, don't forget to take a look at the other links in the Show Notes. 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Host: Faith Moore
Date: January 26, 2026
In this episode, Faith Moore continues her engaging read-through of Charles Dickens' David Copperfield, focusing on Chapter 6: "I enlarge my circle of acquaintance." As always, the reading is interspersed with thoughtful notes and insights, making classic literature accessible and enjoyable. Before diving into the chapter, Faith responds to listener commentary about Episode 5 and addresses concerns about the book’s emotional journey.
Faith begins by revisiting Chapter 5 and sharing three listener comments:
Faith unpacks these reactions, noting Dickens’ talent for evoking both righteous anger and empathy by showing young Davy’s innocence and confusion in a world full of indifferent or malicious adults.
“Dickens exposes the harsh realities of the world with such honesty. His work feels like half a story, half a social commentary on the brokenness of society.”
— Corinthia (08:15)
Faith directly addresses listeners worried the novel will be relentlessly grim, promising that David Copperfield is “not a total depressing slog” but rather “the story of David’s life”—with lows, but also many uplifting, funny, and beautiful moments. She stresses that great literature mirrors real life, including its hardships, to reveal universal truths.
“A story that’s only ever, like, rainbows and flowers… isn’t going to feel real. The things that make classics classic is that they offer us some kind of universal truth about the actual real world.”
— Faith Moore (15:10)
She also highlights Dickens’ personal investment in children’s welfare, noting some events are drawn from Dickens’ life (with more details to come later to avoid spoilers).
Faith frames Chapter 5 as a turning point for Davy—the end of protected childhood and the start of a new, often lonely phase, echoing listeners’ observations that Davy is forced to act like an adult far too soon.
She traces Davy’s journey from innocent miscommunication (the Barkis message) to real victimization (the exploitative waiter) and abandonment (being left at the station), illustrating how Dickens masterfully lets readers piece together adult realities from Davy’s childlike perspective.
“He narrates the whole thing through Davey’s eyes… Davey has no clue what’s going on. But [Dickens] gives us enough details so that we can piece together what’s happening from an adult perspective.”
— Faith Moore (18:40)
“Supposing nobody should ever fetch me. How long would they consent to keep me there? Would they keep me long enough to spend seven shillings?... Supposing there was no mistake…and Mr. Murdstone had devised this plan to get rid of me. What should I do?”
— Faith reading David Copperfield (20:58)
She notes that while things seem bleak, there are glimmers of hope—Mr. Mel’s small kindnesses, and the possibility of sympathetic classmates.
“Now you have begun to know me too, my young friend, and you may go. Take him away.”
— Mr. Creakle (26:55)
“Look here. Here’s a game!”
— Traddles introducing Davy (29:55)
“Good night, young Copperfield. I'll take care of you.”
— Steerforth (44:26)
“He was a person of great power in my eyes… That was, of course, the reason of my mind running on him.”
— David Copperfield (47:55)
Throughout, Faith encourages listener participation via her website. She warmly invites listeners to write in with reactions, thoughts, or questions, and reminds everyone about the Drawing Room online community and the upcoming “tea time” discussion (details in show notes).
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Welcome & Episode Overview | | 08:15 | Comment: Dickens as Social Commentator | | 09:00 | Comment: Barkis’s Proposal | | 09:45 | Comment: The Cruelty of the Sign | | 12:30 | Listener Concerns: Is this ALL Sadness? | | 18:40 | Faith on Dickens’ Narrative Technique | | 20:58 | Davy’s Inner Monologue (Isolation) | | 22:45 | Introduction of Mr. Creakle | | 27:10 | Schoolboys Return/Traddles’ Introduction | | 34:30 | Steerforth’s Arrival and Dorm Feast | | 45:00 | Whispers About School Culture | | 47:55 | Davy’s Admiration of Steerforth |
In this episode, Faith skillfully guides listeners through Davy’s continued tribulations, highlighting Dickens’ nuanced portrayal of how children experience adult cruelty and camaraderie. The arrival at Salem House introduces memorable new characters and school dynamics, setting the stage for the next phase of Davy’s journey. Through both hardship and the seeds of new friendship, listeners are assured that Dickens balances the darkness with real glimmers of light.
To Participate:
Listeners are encouraged to submit questions and comments for future episodes via faithkmoore.com, and to consider joining the Drawing Room community discussions.
Memorable Host Quote:
“I wouldn’t choose a book that was just a total depressing slog. That’s not the kind of book I want to share with you... Good books don’t sugarcoat the world, but they don’t depress us for no reason either.”
— Faith Moore (13:45)