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A
I'm honestly starstruck, you guys. I'm sitting next to a literal icon. Not only is she the greatest performer of all time, but she is an advocate, a director, she's educated, and a huge influence on me personally. Welcome to the show. Angela White. Angela, welcome. My client booked the most. Get ready. Oh, my God, you guys. Let's do a pack my bag. Wow.
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B
Thank you for that amazing introduction. I'm so happy to be here.
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A
You look so, so stunning.
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B
Thank you. As do you.
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A
Thank you. I actually got you a little present to say thank you for coming on the pod.
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B
Wow, this is so exciting.
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A
So I've been following your space journey.
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B
Oh, my gosh.
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A
And I saw that you recently did zero gravity training. Yes. So I thought there could be no one more perfect to film the first scene in space.
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B
Oh, my gosh, that is amazing.
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A
I photoshopped your head onto that. I did that. Okay. And can you read out what it says?
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B
One small step for man, one giant load for mankind. That's amazing.
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A
I know.
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B
Thank you so much.
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A
You're so welcome. I thought someone. Someone's gonna give you a little gift now that you're back in Australia. Now, for those who are probably thinking, what the fuck are we talking about? Can you please explain why, like, where did this idea to film in space come from? And what it was like experiencing zero gravity for the first time?
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B
Well, my dream scene is to shoot in space. That's just. I've always wanted to have sex in zero gravity. Obviously, that is kind of an unrealistic dream, but that's what dreams are for, right? So I decided to do the zero gravity experience. So I went on the same flights that they use to train NASA astronauts to get them ready for zero gravity. So they do these parabolas where you get moments of actual weightlessness. And it was so such an incredible experience.
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A
Wow, that sounds amazing. What do you think? Your first ever, like, so if you happen to go to space and film a scene, what would be your first scene? Because I would think, like, you know, a blowbang would be, like, too messy. But then I saw you, like, eating the little droplets of water. I was like, okay, maybe that's what you're aiming for.
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B
Well, the cum shot in zero gravity would be spectacular because you can see on the. The videos that I posted, the droplets just stick, stay in perfect. Like, spherical little droplets. So imagine a blowbang and me just floating around.
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A
I can picture it now. If anyone's gonna do it, it's gonna be you.
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B
I mean, realistically, it would Be better to try just a regular boy girl scene first. Because it is gonna be difficult to have sex in space or in zero gravity, at least, because every time a man thrusts into you, he's going to kind of push you away. So if we were to do it, we'd actually have to do it in some kind of harness to stay together.
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A
Yeah. Because I was going to say it's already, like, hard enough for a male to, like, shoot a scene, let alone in space.
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B
Well, this is another reason why it's unrealistic. Because it's actually more difficult to maintain an erection in zero gravity because the blood is rushing up. So there's a lot of things that make it more complicated. Again, why It's a little bit of an unrealistic dream, but, hey, I'm still. I'm still reaching for the stars.
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A
You've achieved basically everything there is to achieve for a porn performer on Earth. So if you're like, now, I know I do.
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B
Now you go to the next frontier.
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A
I mean, someone's got to do it with you. I'll do it with you. Yeah, I'll be ready.
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B
All right.
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A
On the beck and call.
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B
And just think of the. The weight off your literal shoulders. Like, your boobs just float. It's. Yeah. The craziest thing is coming back into gravity, like, Earth's gravity, because you feel so heavy. It's wild. Like, just trying to stand up in Earth's gravity after experiencing microgravity is insane.
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A
Yeah. I cannot imagine. That's incredible.
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B
So heavy.
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A
So this is officially our first meet, but we did come close once at Melbourne Sexpo a few years back, and it was just packed to the brim. I was just, like, admiring you from afar, but, like, it was pretty much like, 5,000 guys walking around with, like, giant hard ons just waiting to meet you. So, like, what was it like? Like, just meeting fans in general. Like, do you love it or is it a bit overwhelming?
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B
No, I love it. My fans really are the sweetest, most respectful, lovely fans. So I love going to conventions and meeting fans and just. It's so nice to hear about, like, what their favorite scene is. And, you know, I just. I love meeting them.
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A
I love meeting fans, too, but a lot of mine are girls. I was like, I wonder how it's like meeting a lot of guy fans.
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B
Yeah, I mean, I have a lot of female fans, but I noticed at the conventions, it's usually men and couples. Yes, they come together. The couples come together, which is nice. Which I love.
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A
It was funny. I was there And I did meet one of your fans and he was so excited to meet you. He literally got a tattoo of your face on his chest.
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B
I know exactly who you're talking about.
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A
And with your name written under. I was going to say. Did he please tell me he met me?
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B
Oh, yes, he did. Yes, he did meet me.
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A
Oh, my gosh. Is that like normal? Like guys getting tattoos?
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B
I feel like, yes, A lot of people. A lot of people get my logo because it's quite discreet. I mean, he went all the way with my face on his chest. But yeah, this is like something that a lot of the fans get just because it's very discreet.
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A
They don't have to explain it.
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B
Exactly. I mean, if you know, you know.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That you could wear it out in public and no one's going to be like, oh, look at that Gooner. Exactly. But yeah, I think it's really sweet when they get my logo or get me tatted on them. That's, yeah.
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A
So incredible. Like, you could just tell he was just like, his life mission was to meet you. So he was just so excited. And I'm sure there's many more out there that are just dying to meet you. I know you're, like so passionate about everything you do in your work. Like, not only are you amazing performer, but director, editing, everything, you do it all. You're like, you own a lot of hats in the name. I was just wondering, like, where did that all start for you?
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B
I mean, I've wanted to be in porn since I was quite young and obviously I waited till I was 18. But during that time I did a lot of research on the industry and who I wanted to shoot for and what did I. What I wanted to achieve. And so as soon as I turned 18, I flew to Miami and did my first scene.
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A
That is insane. You just had it in your head, locked in your.
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B
Yeah, well, so I was a very sexual teen and I was criticized for expressing that sexuality. So I was, sorry, bullied. I was labeled a slut. It wasn't. Everybody deemed my sexuality to be inappropriate. So porn was the first space I saw women being celebrated for expressing and, and exploring their sexuality. And also porn was the first media where I saw girls with my body type being celebrated. And, you know, it was a big deal for me like in the, the late 90s, early 2000s, because at that time we didn't have body positivity.
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A
No, it was very, like skinny, trendy.
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B
Very skinny, like, girlfriend. And Dolly was all stick skinny models, beautiful girls, but there was no representation of curvy women. And so porn was the only media that I saw where curvy women were celebrated.
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A
Yeah, that's so true. You moved from Australia to la. What was that experience like? Like moving from such a small place to like the Big Smoke.
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B
It was really incredible and it really did so much for my career as well. There's just so many opportunities in Los Angeles and so many of the biggest creators live in la. And then I signed with the biggest agency, which is Spiegler Girls, which propelled my career. And just being, being based in LA and being able to direct and produce while being there is just an incredible experience.
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A
And what's like a day in the life for you, like on a porn set? Because I know, like for me, I started out like on Onlyfans. It was very much like amateur. And like, you know, we bring our own lighting and we do our own, like, shoots. So like, it was a shock for me, like a surprise that mainstream porn, like, it was just so professional.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like everything was just down to the wire. And I was shocked. I was like, whoa, I'm not used to this because I'm so used to like this amateur. Yeah, filming.
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B
People think it's the wild, wild west, but in fact, the porn industry is very corporate and very, very professional and it's very scheduled. So for, like, for example, when I shoot for Brazzes, which is the biggest company in the world, the company that I'm contracted with. Right. Right now, I'll get even before we shoot the scene. We've already done negotiations on, on what I'm shooting, who I'm shooting with, the wardrobe. I've approved the script. So there's a lot that goes on before I even turn up to set. And then you turn up to set on time. That's what people don't realize, that people also think that porn is shot late at night. But no, you're in the makeup chair at 8am oh yeah, you've got hair and makeup for two hours. Then you've got to do your paperwork. You've got to do your 2,25 sevens. You've got to prove that you're over 18. Doesn't matter how many times you shot a porn scene. You have to prove that you're over 18 every single time you shoot. Then we go through a boundary checklist with our on screen performer, which is where we go through all the sacrifices, sex acts that we're willing to do and all of our hard nos and the things that we might want to try. But within these boundaries and we have a talent assistant, a talent liaison on set that goes through those boundaries with the performers, and they are our advocate on set. So they're there to watch the scene. And if at any point they feel like one of our boundaries may have been crossed, they're there to cut, check in on everyone, make sure everyone's okay. So there's a lot of misconceptions about what it is like to be on a porn set, but there's a lot of paperwork, a lot of compliance, a lot of professionalism. And after we've gotten through all the paperwork, there's the, you know, the preparation, the douching.
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A
I was going to say, what's your anal prep? Oh, yeah.
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B
So my anal prep starts the day before. It's really important what I eat the day before so that then I can be completely clean the next day. Because on an anal day, you don't know if you're going to be on set for six hours or 12 hours. So you have to make sure that you are completely clean, completely empty during that whole time.
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A
You don't want any mess, nothing.
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B
So I. I mean, every body is different. Like, literally every person's body is different. So people have to figure out what their transit time is. And the transit time is how long it takes for your food to go from your mouth, through your digestive system and out. Because if you don't know your transit time, you don't know when you can eat safely.
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A
Wow. So you're fully scheduled.
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B
Fully scheduled. So the best way, actually, Phoenix Marie taught me this. The best way to figure out your transit time is to eat a bunch of corn. Because corn doesn't fully digest.
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A
You can see it.
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B
So, you know, so you. So, okay, if you're eating corn at 6pm you take a note like, okay, I'm going to check when I use the bathroom, what time does it come out? And that transit time could change based on a number of factors. It could change based on the fact if you have your period, it could change if you're stressed or if you're taking certain medications. So you have to learn your body, but it'll give you a general idea of, oh, okay, does it usually take eight hours for my food to fully digest? 12 hours for women, it's usually actually longer than men. For men, it's often like around eight hours. For women, it can be up to 12 hours. So I give myself, like, leeway because I always want to be clean on set. So I'm always like, okay, 12 hours before I'm cleaning out not before the scene, but 12 hours before. I'm cleaning out. I am not eating a thing. Nothing. I am fasting, which isn't that long to fast. It's not that bad. But even before those 12 hours. So the day before, I'll eat a normal breakfast, a normal ish lunch. I say normal ish because I'm not gonna eat a salad because salads are really hard. Like, lettuce is very difficult.
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A
So it's more like fiber. Like a lot of fiber. Vegetables.
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B
For me, I can handle protein. And broccoli, for example. That does well for me. But, like, you can't do kale because kale kind of curls up in your intestines and it's hard to get out. You don't want to do a lot of nuts. You don't want to do. You don't. At that point, you're not doing corn. Once you've. Once you're doing anal. That's just for the transit test. You're not doing corn the day before.
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A
Yes.
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B
And then the night. The night of, I'll either eat nothing or I'll do like a chicken, like a broth.
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A
Okay.
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B
Like, so.
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A
So just liquid.
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B
Just liquid. Just. Just to satiate myself, because you don't want to starve. Maybe a protein shake, but. But liquid. And then the morning of, I will enema. I'll clean out. I take. I usually take a good hour just to, like, make sure I'm fully clean. Yeah. And then I don't usually eat anything until right before the scene because once we're about to start sex, you know you're gonna eat that. You're gonna be finished the scene in an hour. There's no way it's gonna digest. So if I'm really hungry before then maybe I'll have a little protein bar or a nut butter or something like that. But yeah, I might eat a little bit before the scene. I say a little bit because you don't want to eat a lot. And then actually be. It's not fun to have food in your stomach while you're having sex.
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A
And then what's your. What's your go to food after the scene? Because obviously you haven't eaten for, like, the last two days. So you're like, are you just ravenous or.
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B
I am, but I learned my lesson. I actually have to go quite easy on. On the first meal back. Yeah, I remember. I. So after my first gang bang. After my first gang bang, I was ravenous because I. I starved myself for too long because that was, you know, I was still learning my body and still figuring out. So it was a much longer fasting period. And so I was so ravenous afterwards that I decided I'm going to get a big, rich meal. Like, I got the steak and the sweet potatoes, and I like the dessert. I ate everything. And I've never felt more sick in my life. Because you haven't. You're. If you're that empty, your stomach can't really handle something that rich. So my go to is just. I think your go to should be whatever you normally eat. So I'm a. I'm a salmon and broccoli girl. My stomach's very used to salmon and broccoli. So after an anal sin, I'm like, okay, give me my salmon and broccoli. It is. I mean, it's. It is rich in fatty, but my body's very used to that, so that's my go to.
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A
You know your schedule.
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B
Exactly, exactly.
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A
So is that, like, is it that extensive in your personal life or is it just more like a scene and in your personal life, do you do that routine as well or not?
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B
I do, but it's just a little more relaxed, you know, I don't have to worry about. Because in your personal life, you're pro. You're.
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A
It's not work, right?
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B
Yeah. I'm on set for 12 hours sometimes. Like, if I'm going to have anal sex in my personal life, I'm probably going to be done in 30 minutes.
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A
So I don't. Yeah, exactly.
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B
I don't need to do so much preparation. And especially when your diet is good and you have a lot of fiber, you can tell when you're empty. You might do a little douching, a little enema, but you don't need to spend an hour cleaning out. It's just unnecessary.
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A
Yeah, that's what I tell my girls on TikTok as well. It's just like. And, you know, be with someone that's going to be okay if there is a little bit of mess.
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B
Right.
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A
It's not a big deal at the end of the day. I mean, on porn said, it's completely different. It's a different thing, you know, if you're with your partner, like, he should be okay with a little bit if it gets to that.
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B
Exactly. Yeah.
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A
You know my friend Girth Master?
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B
I know him very well.
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A
Yeah. I was like, oh, like, I'm interviewing Angela. Why? And I was like, can you tell me a story? Like, what's a story from you guys? Tell me a little something about. So he sent me this voice note.
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C
Hey, Angela.
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B
Hi.
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C
Longtime listener, first time caller.
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A
He's such a smart.
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C
I think my favorite memory with Angela, or, like, one of the funniest things I think about is when she took my sounding virginity. Like, she put a kinky down my dick. Because we were shooting our first scene, everything's going great, and I said something like, slide your finger up my dick. Because she's trying to get the precom out. And she turns to me, she's like, did you say, put my finger in your dick? And I thought to myself, I've never had a finger in my dick before, but if I ever do have a finger in my dick, I want it to be Angela's.
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A
Hell, yeah.
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C
So she did. It was a lot of fun. And as soon as the scene was done, I, like, sent a screenshot to the boys in the group chat. Like, guess what, boys? Angela put a finger in my dick hole.
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B
Yeah, I did.
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A
So funny. Pinky finger, I was gonna say. What finger was it?
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B
No, the pinky.
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A
The pinky.
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B
And also, like, I had a long nail, so it wasn't like I stuck my whole finger in. It was just more of, like, the pinky, like, nail and a little bit of the.
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A
I mean, I think just anything you. He would be, like, happy with, you know, I think anyone would be. Pinky, finger in the dickhole, whatever would do it.
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B
I mean, he seemed to like it.
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A
You have a degree in gender studies with honors? Yes. So I get a lot of. I guess sometimes get negative comments about, like, how, you know, porn can be degrading to women. And I guess, like, with your degree, like, how would you respond to those sort of comments? Such an old. You'd get this a lot.
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B
What do you mean porn is degrading to me? Well, if. Is sex degrading to women? Because if sex isn't degrading to women, then why is it degrading to film it?
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A
100.
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B
I just don't.
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A
Why is it always women that get that question? You know, like, it's never the male co workers.
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B
No, it's always male performers. Never get asked. Do you feel degraded? Do you feel exploited? Are you okay? Did you not have any other options? Yeah, like, are you really traumatized and that's why you've chosen this profession? Men do not get asked that question.
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A
It's crazy to me, like, because they'll ask male co workers, and they'll never have an issue. Like, a lot of the time, they'll never have an issue with, like, their family. They're like accepting of them doing porn. And like my female co workers, it's always like, my family disowned me or like, no one's still like, this one's talking to me. So it's just like, why do you think that is? Like, why is there such a, like stigma behind females but not so much males?
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B
Well, there's still so much double standard when it comes to what men and women do and what, what it's what is deemed acceptable for men and women to do and also like for women to have an empowered sexuality. And I do think it has gotten better. But those old feelings of like, oh, women who are in the sex industry in general are exploited. Like how. And it's this idea like, how could a woman possibly like sex enough to be able to do that as a profession?
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A
Yeah, it's still a very male dominated.
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B
World unfortunately, but at least like in porn it is quite female dominated. It's women that have all the power. It's the women that make more money, I guess.
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A
When you first started, was it like, has it gone through a huge movement or like, was it the same sort of when you started or has it changed over time?
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B
I would say it has gotten more, more, even more professional and more corporate. So those boundary checklists that I spoke about, they weren't a thing. They weren't a thing back then. So you did have to your voice. I never had any issues because I've always been someone who's very clear about my desires, about what I will do, what I won't do, what I want, what I don't want. So every time I would get on set I would just say, okay, these are my hard nos. Like everything else is on the table. You know, what is it that you like? And I'd always, what? That's one question that I would always ask, like a female or male performer that I'd be working with is what do you like? Because in the end, when it comes to shooting a scene, I want to actually give that person pleasure. Not only because it's more fun, it's more fun work if you're both coming, but also because that's what resonates for fans. Like, that's what they want. Yeah, they don't want to see like robotic sex. They don't want to see sex that's unfeeling. They want to see people truly enjoying themselves.
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A
Totally. People always ask me like, you know, what do you recommend, like getting into the industry? Things like that, especially with like in person work that I do as well. And I always just make sure I'm like, if you are going to do this, like you have to enjoy it because even if you know the scene's going great or like the work's going great, you know in your mind if you're not happy, you're like you're going to regret it down the line. So you have to sort of have that in you that you really want to be passionate about this work, otherwise it'll eventually catch up to you. And you know, I can see like with your work how much you just absolutely love it and it's just like your baby.
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B
It's the same with any profession though. I understand that the sex industry gets treated differently because we're having sex and there's so much shame and stigma around sexuality. But if you're doing any job, some 9 to 5 job that you hate, you hate waking up to have to go to this job every day, it does suck the soul out of you. So it's really like any job that you decide to get into, you really need to, I mean, hopefully love what you do or at least not hate it. I understand people have to go to work and make money, but at the very least not hate it.
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A
Yeah. So there's been a lot of discussion online about teenagers and porn. What would you recommend? Like parents teach their kids about safety online in the porn industry, considering a lot of their knowledge comes from porn or their friends who watch porn.
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B
Yeah. Well, firstly, adult entertainment is made by adults for adults. So people under the age of 18 shouldn't be consuming the content. It's not made for them. Obviously we can't control everything, but it's not adult performers responsibility. Right. To educate kids or teenagers on what sex is like. You don't watch Fast and the Furious to learn how to drive. You don't watch porn to learn how to have sex. So it really is the responsibility of parents to make sure that their teenagers have age appropriate porn literacy. So you need to teach your kids about sex. You can't just leave them in the dark because they are going to at some point find porn or be exposed to porn by their friends. So I really feel like parents need to take responsibility for that. Unfortunately, sex education for the most part doesn't really teach us much apart from like about the reproductive organs. So parents need to take responsibility when it comes to putting like safety measures in place so that they can't access it at home. There's a lot of different like locks that they can put on web browsers and stuff so that then it's harder for them to access it. But then also, like, you teach kids that a horror movie isn't real.
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A
That's right.
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B
You've got to teach kids that pornography is a fantasy. It's entertainment, and it's created for adults. And it's not something that you're trying to emulate.
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A
I feel like people are so quick to, you know, blame the porn performers or the porn industry, but I feel like it comes back to that shame around sex. Right. Like, if we just talk to our kids more about.
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B
Yeah.
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A
What it is. And like, you know, it's not real. Like it's. But it's sex and it's okay. And, you know, just. Just bring it back to just having a healthy conversation.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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A
Rather than. Because they're going to watch it anyway. So it's like, you might as well talk to them.
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B
We can. We can hope. We can hope that they don't. But.
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A
Yeah. So I heard you ran in this state election for the Australian Sex Party. Like, how did that come about?
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B
Well, Fiona Patton asked me to run because Kathleen Molson was running for the Greens party and she was running on an anti sex work campaign. So she wanted to shut down all the brothels in Melbourne. And my job wasn't to win the seat. Honestly, if I'd won the seat, I.
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A
Wouldn'T know what to do.
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B
So thank goodness I didn't actually win. But I. My job was to bring awareness to the fact that Kathleen Moulton was running on this anti sex work platform also for the Greens Party. That's generally very progressive.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That was kind of an odd, surprising choice. And so my job was to try and take votes away from her and to draw awareness. And I achieved that. She did not win the seat. So.
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A
Okay.
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B
That was a success.
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A
Okay. Because I was like, did you debate anyone? Because I feel like if you debated your opponents, I feel like you would smoke them.
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B
Right. I did.
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A
Okay.
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B
I did my best.
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A
And I don't know if this is true or false, but apparently I saw that you made a video with one of the candidates. Is that true?
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B
Oh, yes. With Zara Stardust. We were the first two political candidates to do a sex scene together. To do a porn scene? Yeah.
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A
Wow. What did you guys do?
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B
We did like a lesbian scene, basically. Strap on. Yeah. Nice.
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A
Nice. I love that. I was going to ask. I saw online that you had your own sex position, the Angela sex position. Oh. What is it?
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B
It's hard to explain. Okay. So basically it's a position that's really good for pov. Tit. So most traditional tit, the guy will lay down and then the woman is like coming over like this. And like it's. It hurts your back because all the weight of your tits, especially when you have tits this big, is just like, it's very painful. It's also very weird. It's a very weird look on camera because your, your face is kind of straining and then the veins are popping out of your face. And also your, your forehead is warping. If they've got a wide angle on, it's just terr. So the Angela. I didn't, I didn't. One of my, one of my co performers dubbed this. He's like, you're the only person that does this. This is the Angela. So I sit down on my knees and I get the male performer to put his legs over my lap. So then I'm sitting up straight instead of doing this punching, punching, looking weird, hurting my back, destroying the light. So I'm up straight. His legs are over my lap like that. And so his cock is perfectly in between my tits. So then I'm able to just bounce my boo without any bending over. And it looks spectacular.
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A
Okay, and where's the camera? Is this like 20 POV?
- [25:56]
B
So if he's laying down, the camera will be where his head is.
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A
Gotcha. Oh, yeah. That's such a good way to do it. Yeah. Gets that big head out of there.
- [26:05]
B
Exactly.
- [26:06]
A
Straight to the point. Exactly.
- [26:08]
B
Perfect lighting. Perfect. And obviously you look better when you're sitting up straight and your shoulders are back. So the girl, me, I look better. The dick looks. Looks perfect. Because you're not obstructing the view. The lighting is great. It's the perfect view for. For the fan.
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A
There's so much that goes into it. Hey, I feel like a lot of. I mean, you would get so many dms about, like people asking you, how do I get in the industry? I'm like, it's not easy.
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B
No, it's difficult. Well, especially for men. Yeah, it's a lot more difficult for a man to get into the industry than it is a woman. They have a very hard job. And I mean that.
- [26:41]
A
Like, yeah, literally staying hard for like 12 hours a day and then getting the perfect cum shot. Like, it's not easy.
- [26:47]
B
It's not easy.
- [26:48]
A
Especially when you're in front of like a hot. You, like, choke up. I mean, I can see you're obviously so passionate about everything in your work. You know, directing, producing, editing. Do you ever think that you would, like, perform or like, produce a non Adult movie.
- [27:05]
B
No. Really? Yeah. You know, I've been on mainstream sets where there's no sex.
- [27:10]
A
Okay.
- [27:11]
B
And it's just not as fun because there's a lack of sex.
- [27:14]
A
Yeah. Yeah. You're like, I just live and breathe sex. That's all I want.
- [27:17]
B
Like, I don't think I'd produce or direct a mainstream film without sex.
- [27:24]
A
I.
- [27:24]
B
If I. If the right opportunity came along, I would consider acting in one, but it would have to be the right.
- [27:31]
A
The right opportunity.
- [27:32]
B
Yeah. Okay.
- [27:32]
A
And involve some sex.
- [27:33]
B
Well, that would be preferable.
- [27:35]
A
Yeah. I guess. Your DMS would probably be so crazy. Like, is there anyone that you have just been starstruck by?
- [27:41]
B
Yes.
- [27:42]
A
Even in la, like.
- [27:43]
B
Yes.
- [27:44]
A
I bet everyone's messaged you, right?
- [27:46]
B
Well, celebrities watch porn, too.
- [27:49]
A
That's it.
- [27:50]
B
So your favorite celebrity is also watching the same porn you are. So they're also sliding into DMs. Exactly.
- [27:58]
A
Have you ever pursued that or. A few times, when the time is right. A few NDAs under that, but it's okay. We'll go on, move on. So have you got any squirting tips for the girlies? Because the girlies love to know how to squirt.
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B
Yeah. Relax. Don't worry about. If you feel like you're gonna pee, just relax.
- [28:21]
A
Yeah.
- [28:22]
B
Yeah. That's the biggest thing.
- [28:23]
A
I feel like it took me so long just to, like, get out of my own head.
- [28:28]
B
Yeah.
- [28:28]
A
Because I'm a little bit adhd, so I struggle to focus, but it took me so long to just be like, just let go.
- [28:37]
B
Yes.
- [28:38]
A
Just do it, you know?
- [28:39]
B
Absolutely.
- [28:40]
A
Yeah. So how would you sort of recommend girls who have never done it before? Have you got any tips for that?
- [28:45]
B
Well, I would actually say, also, don't even worry about it. There's this sort of almost obsession right now about, oh, I have to learn how to squirt. I must squirt. Not everybody squirts. Like, don't put pressure on your body to squirt if it's just not what your body does. If you're coming and having great orgasms and you're not squirting, who cares?
- [29:05]
A
I love that.
- [29:06]
B
Yeah. Just focus on pleasure. That's what I would focus on.
- [29:09]
A
Totally.
- [29:09]
B
Yeah.
- [29:10]
A
Because it's like, there's so much.
- [29:11]
B
There's already so much pressure on women when it comes to sex. Like, why add another thing, you know? Obviously. Yeah. I mean, if you really want to learn how to squirt, obviously, the relaxation. But also, don't put pressure on yourself. Yeah.
- [29:23]
A
Just enjoy yourself.
- [29:24]
B
Yeah, exactly.
- [29:25]
A
Take the Pressure.
- [29:25]
B
And then it's more likely to happen. Yeah.
- [29:29]
A
Have you had any weird requests in your DMs?
- [29:31]
B
I get a little bit of everything. A little bit of fem Dom, a little bit of footstuff. Obviously a lot of big boo boo worship requests. One of the more interesting ones is the shrinking fetish guys wanting to be shrunk and eaten.
- [29:46]
A
Giant.
- [29:47]
B
Giant chairs.
- [29:48]
A
Giant chairs, yeah. Yeah, I've had that before. It's so fun. Like, can you describe a time where you've done that?
- [29:53]
B
So what I do when I. If I. I don't always do customs, but when I've done them in the past, I will, like, hold the camera at face height.
- [30:01]
A
Okay.
- [30:01]
B
So it's like they're standing up. And then as I shrink them, I will slowly pull the camera down, down, down, until they're on the floor so that their perspective is like, I am a giantess. So it gives them the idea that I have shrunk them. And then some of them want to be eaten. So I'll pick them back up. Basically put the phone camera in my mouth.
- [30:22]
A
Do you ever use, like, a little toy? Because I had a guy once, he sent me, like, a little. Little figurines and, like, a little house, and I had to, like, peek through the window. Like, I'm this giant woman. I know. I found it really sweet. Those are my favorite customs to do because I just love, like, the creativity.
- [30:37]
B
I'm like, I did a LEGO one. They have, like, the LEGO men, but then they also have the LEGO skeletons. So what I did was I hid the LEGO skeleton. This was hard to do. I hid the LEGO skeleton under my tongue. And so I grabbed the LEGO man, I put him in my mouth, and then I pulled out the LEGO skeleton so it looked like I'd just eaten all the flesh.
- [30:57]
A
That is so funny.
- [30:58]
B
That's probably the most creative I've gotten.
- [31:01]
A
So I love talking to you, but I know you're a busy little Chucky, so I just wanted to end on, like, something where I asked you a few questions and you say if it's hot or not.
- [31:11]
B
Okay.
- [31:12]
A
Okay. Shower sex.
- [31:13]
B
It's in between.
- [31:14]
A
I feel like it's very debated. It's very. Sounds hot.
- [31:17]
B
Yeah.
- [31:18]
A
But then it's quite comfortable.
- [31:19]
B
My gut was like, it's hot. Like, it's hot. But, like, then I'm like, the reality is the. The idea of it is hot, and then you get in there and it's not quite as hot.
- [31:28]
A
Yes. Yeah. I feel like comfort for me is key, so I Would rather just be in bed and just going at it than like, everything angles.
- [31:35]
B
I end up with water in my ear. Yeah, that's my.
- [31:38]
A
Are you getting a hair wearing your makeup off?
- [31:41]
B
That. That I don't mind so much, but the water in the air is a no go.
- [31:46]
A
Okay, guys moaning during sex. Hot.
- [31:48]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [31:49]
A
Hot. Okay.
- [31:50]
B
Super hot.
- [31:51]
A
Yeah. So the more vocal, the better.
- [31:52]
B
Better. Yes.
- [31:53]
A
I love it because I feel like guys, sometimes they're quite scared to open up and, you know, express themselves.
- [31:58]
B
I love it when they let it all out. I love when they're just.
- [32:01]
A
Well, you know that they're into it. You know that they're enjoying it.
- [32:04]
B
Especially when they come, if they're just like grunting and huffing and puffing and moaning. Yeah.
- [32:10]
A
That gets you going. Yeah. Role play. Hot or cringe? Yeah, I guess it depends what it is though, I guess.
- [32:18]
B
No, there's nothing cringe in the bedroom. I think that it's a great place to explore.
- [32:22]
A
So the more creative, the better for you. Starting with anal?
- [32:25]
B
Well, in porn, it's hot.
- [32:27]
A
Yeah.
- [32:29]
B
Well, it depends. What do you mean by starting with anal?
- [32:31]
A
Just straight in there, I guess. Not much.
- [32:36]
B
I think it's hot in porn. I think in, like, my personal life, I want some foreplay.
- [32:41]
A
Yeah. Okay.
- [32:42]
B
Like, if. Even if I. If I do straight to A in porn, I've definitely been fucking the guy off screen beforehand. Like, I've definitely already had foreplay. The camera just hasn't seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [32:54]
A
This is not something that you just go straight.
- [32:56]
B
Yeah, it's like, it's very. It's very dramatic for porn. Right. It's just. It's. It's a cool idea. Like, oh, my God. Like, I just shoved the dick straight in the ass. But the reality is.
- [33:06]
A
Yeah. So this is for the guys listening at home. Please don't do that.
- [33:09]
B
Well, yeah, If I'm doing straight to A in porn, not only have I done all the prep that I've talked about, but right before the scene, I've stretched myself out anally with a toy in the bathroom. So I've done it slowly myself, and then I've told my male partner, hey, come here, I need to stretch out on your dick because that dick is going to be a different size and shape.
- [33:29]
A
Exactly. Fill it out.
- [33:30]
B
So I've already stretched out on a toy by myself on the dick that I'm about to. And then by the time we get into the scene, I'm warmed up.
- [33:39]
A
Yeah. So sorry to break the.
- [33:42]
B
But that's the reality. It's actually not a good idea to go, like, straight in without warm up unless you're very experienced. Because you don't want to tear.
- [33:51]
A
No, you don't want to tear anything. And that's just going to cause problems down the track.
- [33:55]
B
Probably once you get very experienced, you do kind of have muscle memory and so you, you know, potentially do it. But I still recommend I still stretch regardless because I'm like, there's. It's not worth getting a tear.
- [34:07]
A
Totally.
- [34:07]
B
Yeah.
- [34:08]
A
So not hot, I guess.
- [34:10]
B
Hot in porn with caveats.
- [34:12]
A
Like, what about reming? Are you into hot hot?
- [34:15]
B
Yeah, Hot hot.
- [34:16]
A
Yeah, that's hot. Dick piercings.
- [34:18]
B
Oh, they look hot. But honestly, I don't like the way they feel. Yeah, I feel like I've. I've only had sex with one guy with a dick piercing. And it's, like, scraped. Like, it was scraping.
- [34:30]
A
You don't want anything external. Like, there was a guy once that I dated who had, like, internal, like, little implants. They were like ribs. Ribs, dick. But they were inside. They weren't on the outside.
- [34:41]
B
Yeah.
- [34:42]
A
So the girl I had sex with.
- [34:43]
B
It was outside and it really. I could feel it scraping inside and it just wasn't.
- [34:48]
A
No.
- [34:48]
B
Maybe some girls really like it. My is just more sensitive and I didn't like it.
- [34:53]
A
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What about asking you to call him Daddy? Hot.
- [34:57]
B
Hot.
- [34:58]
A
You love being. Love saying daddy. He takes charge and orders food for you at a restaurant.
- [35:04]
B
The only time I'm okay with that is if we're going to a restaurant that he's recommended that he's been to a thousand times that he's like, you have to try this. You have to try that. Then I'm cool with it.
- [35:15]
A
Yeah. Okay.
- [35:16]
B
But otherwise, I am my own woman.
- [35:18]
A
Yeah, exactly. You have your own taste.
- [35:20]
B
Yeah. Do you think it's hot or not?
- [35:22]
A
No, not at all.
- [35:22]
B
Okay.
- [35:23]
A
No, I was like. Yeah, I was like. But you're right. Like, if it was, you know, in a good environment where they've, like, picked the restaurant, they know the food, then. Yes, but like, someone who's just trying to, like, control the situation, not so much.
- [35:35]
B
I mean, even with a friend. If, like, you invited me to a restaurant, you're like, I love this restaurant. You've got to try this. I'm just. I'm trusting you. Yeah, I'm trusting you.
- [35:42]
A
What about, like, do you get many guys coming up to you, like, in public? Or are they, like, quite, like, intimidated by you? Like, do you get guys hitting on you?
- [35:48]
B
I get more guys in LA doing it than in Australia.
- [35:52]
A
But I feel like that's so, like, because when I went to la, I was just getting bombarded from guys and I'm like, you don't experience that in Australia as much because everyone's quite closed off.
- [36:01]
B
I think American men are very bold and they just shoot their shot. And I think a lot of Australian men are a little more shy, I guess, or reserved.
- [36:11]
A
I don't.
- [36:12]
B
I still get Australian men coming up to me, it's just. I get more of the, like, double.
- [36:16]
A
Takes from Australian men and should I go up to. Yeah.
- [36:19]
B
And not as many actors, actual approaches. Whereas in America, like, men will just come up to you anywhere they do.
- [36:25]
A
It was. It's quite a shock. It was like, oh, whoa. Like, you know, you just don't get that in Australia.
- [36:30]
B
Yeah.
- [36:31]
A
But, yeah, mainly, like New York and Miami, I found where they were really forward, but like, a little bit in la. But mainly those two. I was like, yeah, this is a lot.
- [36:40]
B
Yeah. Get a lot of options.
- [36:42]
A
A little bit. Yeah. It was fun. Well, Angela, thank you so much for coming on. You've done an incredible job with just, like, destigmatizing the industry for sex workers. So thank you so much and I hope you had fun.
- [36:56]
B
I did. I had a lot of fun. Thank you so much for having me.
- [36:59]
A
And until next time, see you soon. Bye.