We joined the Mile High Club

Summary

Storytime with Kayla Jade

Episode: We Joined the Mile High Club
Host: MIK Made
Guest/Co-host: Kayla Jade (and possibly Eden)
Release Date: September 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this candid and energetic episode, Kayla Jade and co-host MIK Made dive into one of their most outrageous and unforgettable work stories—actually joining the infamous Mile High Club during a full-service sex work scene filmed over Las Vegas. Listeners are treated to hilarious, honest, and sometimes chaotic anecdotes as the duo recounts the planning, mishaps, and aftermath of the experience. The episode also explores related topics around sex work, body image, the realities of topless waitressing, technology's role in intimacy, and heartfelt reflections on self-worth, love languages, and growing up.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Chickens and Everyday Life

• The episode opens with a lighthearted update about Kayla rescuing chickens whose heat lamps went out, leading to witty back-and-forth about how rescuing animals impacts their eating habits.
  • "Oh, you say Mother Teresa over here." — Host (01:39)
  • "I haven't been able to eat chicken since." — Guest (01:51)

2. Planning for the Mile High Club Video

• Kayla and Eden (guest/co-host) detail how the idea came about, expressing a mix of excitement and anxiety.
• Costume hunting in LA: A hot, tiring quest trying to find 'realistic but sexy' flight attendant outfits.
  • "We wanted it to be like realistic but like also like sexy because like obviously of what we're filming." — Host (03:00)

3. The Las Vegas Adventure

• The limo ride is comically short—essentially just to add to the fantasy.
• They meet up with their male co-star, described as very friendly, who picks them up in a flashy car.
• The co-star’s house has strict “rules” listed, giving college vibes.

4. Pre-Flight Chaos and Heat Exhaustion

• June in Vegas: Scorching temperatures (up to 47°C / 117°F), melting their makeup and draining their energy.
  • "It was disgustingly hot. Like, we get there, our makeup is just rank. Like, it's disgusting." — Host (05:00)

5. The Actual Mile High Club Experience

• The private plane is tiny and sweltering.
• Procedural run-through: Take-off, cockpit privacy partition, and the severe heat challenge.
• Pilot’s warning about the risk of motion sickness—completely accurate, as it turns out.
  • "The pilot was like, listen, it's really hot today. I think that, like, you're potentially going to feel sick up there... We were like, no, we're not going to do that... He was so right." — Host (06:16)
• Motion sickness takes its toll: Eden (or Kayla) throws up mid-scene but powers through.
  • "Because you were sitting backwards as well. That never helped. This person, she gets motion sickness in the car." — Host (06:56)
  • "Literally, you could actually see Kayla bent over, just puking." — Host (09:22)

6. Professionalism Amidst Chaos

• Despite feeling and appearing unwell (pale, dehydrated), both finish the scene.
• Memorable moment with "prison lube" (using hot water bottles due to dehydration) for the final shot.
  • "He called it prison lube because he had to use the water to, like, try and finish." — Host (10:37)
• Immediate request to the pilot to land after wrapping up; the ordeal wiped them out for days.

Notable Quote:

• "Would we do it again? No, we would not." — Host (11:21)

7. Behind the Scenes of Topless Waitressing (12:11)

• Kayla discusses dabbling in topless waitressing—her apprehensions, safety concerns, and lack of enthusiasm compared to other service work.
  • "I'm not really cut out for it... I'm too much of a stick in the mud." — Host (12:28)
  • "You sort of have that hustle mentality as well if you want to make some extra money." — Guest (13:59)
• Stories about working in harsh conditions (freezing outdoor jobs), and setting boundaries.

8. Sex Robots and Technology's Impact on Intimacy (15:24)

• A candid chat about the ethics and societal impact of sex robots: objectification, increase in violence concerns, and fears about deepening loneliness.
  • "If you're satiated in that area, why would you ever leave your house? So I kind of fear for people because they're saying everyone's already lonely... I don't think that sex robots is going to help that." — Host (16:24, 16:57)

9. Dating & Relationships as a Sex Worker (17:02)

• Kayla shares that dating has not been as challenging as some assume; most men she's met are unfazed by her work.
  • "Nobody cares. Honestly, the most common response that I've gotten from guys is, if I was a chick, I would do the same thing." — Host (17:11)
• Discussion on relationship boundaries, monogamy, and 'icks' in both work and dating settings (e.g., boundary-pushing clients, clients wanting more than what's professional).

10. Real Talk on Skincare Routines (19:47)

• Both hosts debunk the myth that expensive skincare always delivers; simplicity is often just as effective.
• Personal anecdotes about facial treatments, peels, and ultimately resorting to basic pharmacy brands with equal results.

Notable Quote:

• "Everything that is really expensive probably isn't doing much to your skin. My skin's exactly the same." — Guest (20:09)

11. Personal Growth and Girlhood Reflections (26:08–30:40)

• Childhood in small towns—few pursued university; social expectations differed.
• Warm reminiscence about a quirky pottery class, hobbies, and what they'd tell their 17-year-old selves.
  • "I guess for me it would probably be just not to worry so much... my top priority was a relationship or like thinking about another person." — Guest (27:06)
  • "If I could go back now and only have one lesson at that age, that would be the lesson: listen, sis, it's just not that deep until you're actually ready." — Host (30:40)
• The value of prioritizing personal development over relationships at a young age.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "Oh, you say Mother Teresa over here." — Host, referring to rescuing chickens (01:39)
• "We wanted it to be like realistic but like also like sexy because like obviously of what we're filming." — Host (03:00)
• "It was disgustingly hot. Like, we get there, our makeup is just rank. Like, it's disgusting." — Host (05:00)
• "The pilot was like, listen, it's really hot today. I think that, like, you're potentially going to feel sick up there...He was so right." — Host (06:16)
• "Literally, you could actually see Kayla bent over, just puking." — Host (09:22)
• "He called it prison lube because he had to use the water to, like, try and finish." — Host (10:37)
• "Would we do it again? No, we would not." — Host (11:21)
• "I'm not really cut out for it... I'm too much of a stick in the mud." — Host, on topless waitressing (12:28)
• "If you're satiated in that area, why would you ever leave your house? So I kind of fear for people because they're saying everyone's already lonely... I don't think that sex robots is going to help that." — Host (16:57)
• "Nobody cares. Honestly, the most common response that I've gotten from guys is, if I was a chick, I would do the same thing." — Host, about dating as a sex worker (17:11)
• "Everything that is really expensive probably isn't doing much to your skin. My skin's exactly the same." — Guest (20:09)
• "If I could go back now and only have one lesson at that age, that would be the lesson: listen, sis, it's just not that deep until you're actually ready." — Host (30:40)

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Engaging Audience Q&A (Selected Highlights)

• Topless Waitressing: Motivation for doing it (“cash grab”), the unpredictable environment, importance of safety and boundaries.
• Sex Robots: Technology, gendered inventions, loneliness, and fears for the future of human connection.
• Dating & the 'Ick': Healthy boundaries with clients; the difference between genuine connection and professional detachment.
• Skincare: No miracle products; practicality reigns over extravagance.
• Personal Growth Lessons: The pitfalls of seeking validation in relationships during youth, and the importance of focusing on yourself.

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Final Thoughts

Kayla and MIK deliver an unfiltered, comedic, and at times vulnerable discussion that expertly blends wild work anecdotes with genuine self-reflection and sage advice. This episode stands out for its willingness to get real about the highs and lows of sex work, the realities behind the scenes, and the broader issues of modern intimacy and self-image—all wrapped up in the pair's trademark candid, supportive tone.

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Transcript

[Host/Interviewer]

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[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Well, we got chickens here, but they're starting to stress as ours.

[Host/Interviewer]

They may not last long.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I think we need to put them back.

[Host/Interviewer]

My client book them, get ready with.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Oh my God, you got to pack my. So we got a few, we got a few new additions actually because my chicken lady who gave me the egg, she ran out of power. So the chickens were gonna die. So obviously I went to pick them up and saved them all. Thank God.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, you say Mother Teresa over here.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

He just did a shit.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's not a shit.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I think as long as there's an argue.

[Host/Interviewer]

He's so cute.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Oh my gosh. You know, I haven't been able to eat chicken since.

[Zibby Owens]

Really?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah, I know.

[Host/Interviewer]

I'm struggling.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I mean all I've been eating is tuna.

[Host/Interviewer]

They're really cute. But I don't think that this affects my love of chicken. Yeah, I don't think I would eat chicken in front of them. Maybe that would be the compromise, like.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Where we can feed an eggs like. And I was like. But then I guess they would eat like they eat the yolk when they're first hatched. So I was thinking we should start off with our. What was it called? Go on fucking mile high club story. It was over Vegas. So yeah, they basically take you up on a plane. Well, they fucking pick you up a named limo. Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

But the limo ride is like 2 seconds left.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Like you go to the airport and you're like out and like the plane's there.

[Host/Interviewer]

The limo picks you up and takes.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

You for like 10 seconds to the plane.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, but it's like maybe 50ft.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Like really bizarre because like when you think about it, because that thing's mainly for like romantic couples. We wanted to dress up in little like flight attendant outfit. Do we find those in. We were in LA where we found them. Hey.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, we were. But like, oh, it was so hot. And we were walking around from like shop to shop trying to find this good outfit. There was just nothing because we wanted it to be like realistic but like also like sexy because like obviously of what we're filming, we don't want it to be like too conservative looking or normal looking.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

We wanted this look semi real.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. But I don't really think we found any. We just kind of like ended up getting something.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

We get the outfits. We had to buy heels because we didn't bring heels to.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh yeah, we didn't bring a single pair of heels.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

So yeah, we're going from LA to Vegas. It just picked up our costumes ready for this like mile high for video. And then we arrive at the Las Vegas Airport. McBuyer, who, because we're filming like a threesome scene. So there's me, Eden and this guy. Ah, takes us up on the airport.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's very nice of him by the way. That's. Yeah, really sweet.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

He goes up in the airport, back to his house. Yeah. Cute. Oh my gosh, he rocks up in this like. What would you say it is like souped up. Fucking.

[Host/Interviewer]

It wasn't a. Was it a Mustang Camaro or something like that?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Some hectic car.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Listen, we don't know anything about cars. It was a nice car. But wind up we like go back to his house. Do you remember that board of like the rules he had at his house? That was so funny. I don't remember. I don't remember any of the rules though. But there were like 10 rules of the house. It was very frat house esque. We like got there. We like did a bit of social media stuff, kind of relaxed. It was very hot in Vegas that day. Incredibly hot. So we were like. We didn't do too much. Hey. And then outside for like five seconds.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

And we're like, no, this is as.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. And then we headed off and so.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Do we get changed at the house? I feel like we got ready there. Hey.

[Host/Interviewer]

I think.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Well, we were already pretty much ready cuz we just. Unreal.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, no, you're right, we did. Because then we drove in the car because I remember sitting in the seat and my ass was like sweaty on the Leather seat. It's peak summer. And how hot was it? It was. It was 47 degrees Celsius that day. I looked it up because obviously America's in Fahrenheit, so I didn't know what that meant. But I looked it up after and I was like, it was disgustingly hot. Like, we get there, our makeup is just rank. Like, it's disgusting.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

So we pull out, we're in the Lilamaru. Like, you have our little drinks and the guy's super nice. He's like, oh, do you want me to get like some real.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, like film, you guys, they were really good.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

And then we hop in the pint.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's so small.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Oh, it's like the size of like the space that we have is probably like this bed.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's probably less than.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

More narrow anyway.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

So there's. So there are two seats. So we were sitting in the back and like he had to sit in the front with the pilot. So basically you. You tape off and then once you're at a certain height, then you can come to the back and the pilot.

[Host/Interviewer]

Like puts like a really cursed. Who knows, a privacy thing.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Have a camera in there. Who knows? But he puts like a privacy thing up and you're allowed to do whatever you wear.

[Host/Interviewer]

But I mean, we should also. Pardon me, preface by saying, the pilot was like, listen, it's really hot today. I think that, like, you're potentially going to feel sick up there. So he's like, if you want to actually film the scene, get a good scene down here on the ground and then we can go up and you can get some footage of the flying just a little bit. So it's all good. And we were like, no, we're not going to do that. Like, we're going to do the. It has to be in the air. Actually. We want to do the real thing. We're professionals. Don't even worry about it. And you know what? He was right. He was so right.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

As soon as that plane started moving.

[Host/Interviewer]

Because you were sitting backwards as well. That never helped. This person, she gets motion sickness in the car.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Oh.

[Host/Interviewer]

Literally when it's not hot.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I cannot be like an Uber. Like, anytime I take an Uber, I get motion sickness.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Always have to drive. So I was little bit concerned.

[Host/Interviewer]

Look, not that we took any precautions. We didn't get you anything. Like, if you did feel sick, we didn't bring any water. We didn't. We brought nothing. Nothing at all. To help the situation, knowing that she's probably going to feel sick. We like get up in the air and we're like, it's. It's hot as in here. They had like the tiniest little fan to try and help you. It was so hot, those little desk fans.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

It was just like one in the corner. It was blowing like humid heat. So I can't like, I don't even like how hot would have been on the plane because it wouldn't have been 47. It would have been like, well, I'll.

[Host/Interviewer]

Paint the picture for you. They had the foresight, very nice of them to give us three bottles, three small bottles of water in a little. In a little container. And that container was. Had some ice in it at some point. By the time we took off, it was just submerged in hot water.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

The drinks were hot.

[Host/Interviewer]

They were hot, dude.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

So we're taking off in the plane. We're seeing backwards and I'm just. I'm immediately like, I'm not going to be able. My face is just literally ghost white.

[Host/Interviewer]

She put her head back and she had her eyes closed and she just wasn't moving. I was like, oh, here we fucking go.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

But we start the same.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Honestly, you true professional. What a trooper. Because you'd never know.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah, that probably was in the first few minutes. I have to take a break.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes. So I, we. We do. And like mind you too, this is a tiny plane. So we're like, we're on top. The plane's going up and down. We're just trying not to like break his penis off at this point. Because that's dangerous.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah, normal plane that you'll go. It was like real, like rickety and.

[Host/Interviewer]

Like, so like it throws you up in the air and you're like coming.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Any movement, you're like jumping up.

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, it's like extreme. Three step some and like even like can impale yourself on that. Anyway, small mood is. Well, that happened to me. Occupational hazard. She takes a break, she's like, listen, you take over. So I'm like, okay, I take over. Right. So basically we. What happens is he's like sitting down. I'm like, you know, on top, whatever. And he's filming this way. So if you look in the background behind my head, you could actually see Caleb bent over, just puking.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Puking my ring out. Literally. Literally. There was just nothing coming out at this point. It was like the. This tiny little bit of water I had. I was just like throwing it all up and we kept it in the video.

[Host/Interviewer]

So I remember editing that video being like, look, you can actually see it and like, by this point, like, Kayla kind of gets back on the action. I get in the action, which is like, throw it up.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I feel so good now.

[Host/Interviewer]

Let me back in. But see, she still looks like she's thrown up. She's pale as a ghost. Yeah. So we kind of get through the scene. And I remember there was one point where he has you bent over one of the seats there and like, he's. I'm filming you guys. And Kayla's face, he's white as a ghost. Just, like, just taking it. I'm like, don't film the face because that's it. Well, I actually did. And then I was like, oh, no.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I think this is after I'm thrown out. But we'll see. So dehydrated, literally, our tongues are like sandpaper.

[Host/Interviewer]

Like, this is the best part is like, we finish or whatever and we do the end of the scene because he can't finish, like, normally. So we. We're like, laying underneath him and he's trying to, like, finish and he's. He called it prison loop because he had. He had to use the water to, like, try and finish. And both of us were just like, pale as a ghost underneath him.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I remember he was, like, trying to come.

[Host/Interviewer]

I can't believe he finished. I can't believe what a professional I was on. I was so impressed. But, like, literally as soon as that happened, we, like, tapped the pile. We were like, get us the fuck out of here.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

That whole thing took us out for days.

[Host/Interviewer]

It was certainly an experience. Would we do it again? No, we would not.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I just remember, like, passing out on.

[Host/Interviewer]

His couch, like, and that was the last that we seen of him because he did want to work with us again because we were still in Vegas. We were like, I think we're good because we feel so sick.

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[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, did you get some questions from. From your adoring fans because you did.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

A bit of, like, topless waitress.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, yes, go on.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Can you tell us a little bit about that? Because, like, I've never done topless.

[Host/Interviewer]

Really?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

So, like, did you enjoy it or, like, what's the vibe?

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, listen, it wasn't really my vibe. Like, I think I'm not really cut out for it. I'm not really the type because the baseline of why you would even get a topless waitress is because they like amp up the party and they like want to party and get up and, and like I'm too much of a stick in the mud. And I was like it's not safe to get up a bunch up amongst a group of men that I don't know.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

And like sometimes I can also go into call outs with like just like 10 guys. It's just like one girl.

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, yeah, it's crazy to me. And they're like doing extracurric from these people that you don't know and then they're like getting wasted and, and like that's just not me anyway. Like I don't drink or like get up like ever unless it's a really good reason. So I'm certainly not going to do it amongst a group of blokes that I don't know. I mean I, I still have fun and stuff. Like it was good but it was very much just a money making thing for me. Like, you know, and it, sometimes it could be fun. Like there were some fun groups of guys, you know, you kind of just walking around chatting essentially and it's like.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I guess it's sort of, you know, sort of more like, more casual than obviously like escorting and things like that.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, much more socially acceptable I think version of doing that sort of thing.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Bit of like a cash grab, you know.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, pretty much. And like you can make extra money. Some guys will want you to do like lap dances or something. If you do that, you got to.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Sort of have that like hustle mentality as well. If you want to make some extra money doing it.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, you do, you do. And it, but honestly it really depends on the group. Like you'll know straight away if they're like, no, we're only gonna pay you like the base for you to be here. Also like it's hard because I did it sort of year round for a little while and then I quickly realized that men don't give a if you're topless and, or naked in the freezing winter outside. I, I've. I walked off a job once. I called the place and I was like, absolutely not. Because it was like in the hinterland and I'm with another girl. We get to this job. It was not a nice day, it was very windy and they had like this cabin up in the hinterland. It's freaking freezing, dude. Like it's so cold. It's so windy. And they were like. All of them were rugged up, like, rugged up. And they had gloves. They were standing around the fire like this, and they're like, okay, like, whenever you're ready, just like, get naked. And I was like, inside. I was like, are you. Are you kidding me right now? So I was like, absolutely not.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Like, because I guess, like, they would probably expect you to just like, drink and, you know, and get like a. You know, and I'm like, eastern. You'll be fine.

[Host/Interviewer]

I'm like, well, you guys are drinking and you're still rugged up, so. Yeah, so there's. I mean, there's positives and negatives to it.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Oh, I was gonna ask you what, what your thoughts are on sex robot.

[Host/Interviewer]

Hey, I don't know. I. I remember reading a thing about these robots before, and that was something that they were saying is like, they think that it's gonna increase violence towards women because they're gonna get used to being able to kind of disrespect, you know, this robot in whatever way they feel. And that probably will bleed into, you know, regular life somehow. It would have to if, you know. So I'm not quite sure. I suppose it could be like scratching an itch sort of thing so they don't do it to anyone. But then, I don't know.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Like, funny how all the robots that you see being made are like, female. Where are the male ones, though? There's no male ones. Yeah, like, you see, there's like female, like, AI ones. They got like the big titties and stuff. You're like, yeah, this is a man. A man made this.

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, yeah, but I don't think that women would really use them.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

No. You know, AI is so new, but it's like moving so ratidy.

[Host/Interviewer]

It is.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

It seems to have just like, changed the course.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, it is. And I mean, I don't know what's going to happen to like, human connection in all of that too, because that's another thing is that if you're sleeping with a robot, you don't have to go out on dates and you don't have to, because that's. Realistically speaking, that is a big motivation for. For dating for a lot of people is. Is to have sex. So if you're satiated in that area, why would you ever leave your house? So I kind of fear for people because they're saying everyone's already lonely.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Oh, yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

And like this. I don't think that sex robots is going to help that.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I think we're definitely getting more distant as a society. Have you found any, like, any issues with dating, like, being a sex worker? No, no.

[Host/Interviewer]

Honestly, none. Like, when I became single because I was with my partner, and then we started the of together, and then I became single during, like, I thought I was like, oh, here we go. Like, this is going to be a nightmare if I ever want to find a partner because I've done sex work or whatever. Nobody cares. Like, honestly, the most common response that I've gotten from guys is, if I was a chick, I would do the same thing.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Honestly, that's what most of them say.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah. I mean, I guess it would go to, like, you know, it's all fun and games, but then if. If you started dating a guy, do you think they would be like, look, I want you to. I mean, if you started dating a guy, would you stop?

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm not. I'm not attached to it like that. Yeah, well, I'm not really, like, I don't really. I don't believe in open relationships. No offense to anyone who does. I'm not, like, fully traditional or, like, monogamous or whatever, but I just. The whole, like, dating a bunch of people at the same time, I just don't. It's not my vibe. If it's your vibe, you do, you boo. Like, I support you.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

What about ex compliance? What gives you the ick?

[Host/Interviewer]

Ex pushing your boundaries and trying to do things that you don't want to do. And they're like, oh, come on, babe. Like, I know you're into this too. And I'm like, actually, we had all of these discussions prior, and I told you explicitly that wouldn't be happening. What else would there be? I think, honestly, like, aside from bargaining the price, the second one would have to be guys that are just like, they want to stay late. They want to be, like, mates with you. They want to talk to you. Whatever, whatever. Because they assume that I'm friends with them, and I actually like them because we've sat together. And I'm like, listen, some clients are cool. They honestly are. Like, I have a really good time with some clients. We have some good chats and some good dinners and stuff. And, I mean, those clients that I do have a pretty good rapport with are always the ones who respect that it's a service, you know? Like, it's never. The ones who are, like, delusional and being like, oh, we're just. I'm like, no, it's okay for us to call this transactional and then also, you know what I mean? Like, it's okay to call it what it is and we don't have to, like, pretend or be weird about it, but there does need to be that boundary in place.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Absolutely. You know, I was gonna ask skincare, what's your skincare? I think we can agree on. We have both, like, tried everything in skincare. Yes. And we've come to the realization that everything that is really expensive probably isn't.

[Host/Interviewer]

Doing much to your skin.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Because we've had the expensive stuff and we've had the cheap stuff. My skin's exactly the same.

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, I think we were talking about this in the group chat the other day, actually, because I did. We went through a period where we were buying this, like, really expensive skincare because we were like, listen, we're on our skincare journey, so, like, yeah, I'm gonna be snatched. Like, it's gonna be amazing. And I was like, religiously getting, like, my Botox done everything. You know what I mean? Like, all that kind of stuff. And at that point, too, I was even getting a facial among.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I remember I was getting that too. Yeah, that micro.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, that's some microblading for your eyebrows. But okay. Microderma. Microdermabrasion is.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I was going to RF frequency.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, okay. All right. That's fancy. Point is, we were doing all the things that they say that you need to be doing. And look, my skin was pretty good. I was still getting, like, hormonal breakouts at that time of the month and stuff. And honestly, like, I still kind of noticed, like, the dullness and the texture thing. Anyway, I wasn't like, oh, my God, my skin is glowing. It was clear, but that's probably about it.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

And then I was like, I got sick and tired of, like, just, you know, whatever. So I was like, listen, I'm not doing that anymore. Now I freaking use that CRV stuff like that you get for, like, $10 at the chemist. And I use, like, just a no name moisturizer and no name sunscreen. And you know what? My skin's exactly the same.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah, I know.

[Host/Interviewer]

Exactly the same. I don't get any facials anymore. I haven't had, like, Botox in like a freaking year or something. Would love to sit here and be like, these things work. And like, I wish that I had had a response that I loved to some of those products because something that.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Was a game changer for your skin.

[Host/Interviewer]

I wish it was, but it just really wasn't like, the peels and I had like needling and stuff too.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

And like the hectic, like serums and all this, like vitamin C and then like retinol and this and that. Yes, and that.

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, and we did that for at least six months, so it's not like we did it for like a month. And then we're like, oh, this doesn't work. I think it was probably closer to a year that I definitely used those products and did that and just didn't really notice much of anything. I think it's what they say though, you need to get like the intense treatments are. The only things that like make a difference is like the laser resurfacing and.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

They need to like, you know, reduce your fat and stuff on your face. And you like don't want that because that's going to eat you.

[Host/Interviewer]

I don't know. I think it depends on the laser. But I mean, we probably shouldn't comment on this because we don't, we don't know what the fuck we're talking about.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

You read about the sand and sperm or whatever and then you read that like people say it's amazing. And then some people say, like, it might work, it might not work. It's like, I want to know. Yes, it's going to work.

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, that's.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Make your skin softer or whatever. Like, you just don't know.

[Host/Interviewer]

I, I just don't know. Half of me thinks like now that I'm this age that it must just be like genetic or something because, like, I've never gotten completely perfect textured skin no matter what I've done. And like our mates have porcelain, porcelain skin. I mean, she's, she's had like the law. Nothing, like without nothing. Do you hear me? I don't know, it's. It's incredible. You could stare into it.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Like, I really liked when I got haifu.

[Host/Interviewer]

That was good. Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I felt like you just snatched me up.

[Host/Interviewer]

Okay.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah, okay. I haven't had it done for a long time. I'd like to do it done again.

[Host/Interviewer]

And do you have to keep doing that? Oh, you don't.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

You can only get it done like once a year or maybe don't quote me on that or some once every season.

[Host/Interviewer]

Disclaimer. Don't take any of our advice on cars or skin.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

What's your love language? It's cute.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, that is cute. Physical touch and probably quality time for me. I think. Yeah, that's, that's about it for me. I'm pretty simple gal. Yeah. What about you?

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Quality time for sure.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

And I think gift Giving.

[Host/Interviewer]

I love giving. Oh, that's cute. I just feel. I feel weird when I get like physical presence. If someone gives me a experience present. I don't mind that.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Why, like, are we.

[Host/Interviewer]

We're damaged.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

We're damaged so much that we just feel like we don't deserve presence.

[Host/Interviewer]

Is that it? I don't know.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Did you ever get in trouble in high school or suspended? I think I definitely remember like sneaking out of school to see boys once.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, to see boys.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I think we went in the principal's office or something.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's very naughty of you. I. Not really, I don't think I. I wasn't really that naughty in school. I did like not go school for like most of my grade 12 year. Just let them down pretty much. I mean, I. Yeah, but like, nobody really cared. I was like from a small town and I just sort of got away with it.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Like in my town, it was like, you know, not many people like went to uni and stuff. It was very much like you go to school and then you get a job if you're working great. There wasn't like the push to go to uni and stuff?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, no, exactly. Well, my town was much the same. Nobody ever really leaves. Most of the ones that I know are there with kids and a husband now.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Could you imagine if that was new? Sliding doors moment, you're on the back to your hometown.

[Host/Interviewer]

It just wasn't for me. I think I knew from a young age it just wasn't home for me. Yeah, not it.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Which one? Craft skill or hobby that you've always wanted to learn. Oh, I feel I loved it when we did the pottery class.

[Host/Interviewer]

It was actually really funny because like we. It was lucky because we actually ended up being the only three people in the class. So it was like a private class. But like, this lady is probably like what the man was. This is three blonde chicks. They go tits out, go in there with like these long ass nails.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

We had like plan to go out for like dinner and drinks or something after. So we were like dressed up and then going into this potter. Oh, this is cute. What would you tell your 17 year old self?

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, that is cute.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I feel like. I guess for me it would probably be just not to like worry so much. Like, you know, worry about what other people think and worry about boys and that's like that. Then like my top priority was a relationship or like thinking about another person.

[Host/Interviewer]

It was like, if I use that.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Time just to focus on myself.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Like I was Just constantly in relationships. Yeah. And then I just. Like, when you get older, like, you.

[Host/Interviewer]

Sort of, like, see the light and.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

You'Re like, oh, like, you know, you don't really grow up because you're always sort of connected to this other person.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, no, that's so true. That's actually. That's what I was gonna say, too, is I would say to just basically forget about boys until you're, like, 28. Because, like, the. The reality is the likelihood of that relationship, like, eventuating and being healthy and whatever that ends in marriage is probably pretty low. Like, not. I'm. I'm a romantic. Don't worry. I believe in relationships. But when you're both that young.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Like, it's probably time better spent just building yourself up until you're mature enough and you know yourself so you can actually date properly. Like, I don't know. I was an idiot when I was in my early 20s, you know? Like, God, if I was.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

I wasn't with the same person, like, as I was as a teenager. Like, I was yet such a different person when we got together. Like, I couldn't imagine. Yeah, I mean, I guess some people, like, grow and change together, but I don't know. I'm glad that I'm not with my first ever relationship.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, well, I think, too, like, I can only speak for myself, obviously, but the reason I was dating was not a healthy reason either. When I was young, like, I was seeking partnership because I, like, couldn't be alone, you know? Like, it was not. It was not that I was like, oh, I feel really good. Like, maybe I'll try to get a partner. It was like, if I don't have a boyfriend, I can't function.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Exactly.

[Host/Interviewer]

You know? So, like, I feel like if I could have just erased that core belief. I don't understand. Well, because it was. Because that's what I was taught. Like, I actually remember growing up and, like, what did I say once? It was something like, I don't know if I'll get into uni or, like, whatever. Something like that. And, like, one of my aunties, like, I'm sure it was a joke, but she was like, don't worry. Just get a rich husband. You know? And, like. Like, in your program, it's just kind of like, well, that's not really a very good, you know, plan. I don't know. It's just there's so much importance, I think, as a woman on, like, having a relationship be your primary target, you know, that, like, you're like, this spinster or whatever. If you don't have a boyfriend, when in reality, like it doesn't, you, life goes on. It's all the same, you know, like whether you have a partner or you don't, you're going to be doing the same things.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Like, I wish I focus more on like myself or study or something rather than just like putting your energy into this person that probably doesn't really give a about you at the end of the day. So they cheat on you. Everything's a learning curve, you know, we wouldn't be here where we are if we didn't go through that. So anything's here for a reason.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, exactly. Like I don't regret any of it because like, like you said, I think everything needed to happen the way it happened. And like you, you learn things. Everyone's a teacher along the way. But I do think if I could go back now and like only have one lesson at that age, that would be the lesson because I'd be like, listen, sis, it's just not that deep until. Until you're actually ready.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Exactly.

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, thank you guys so much for.

[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

Listening and yeah, we're gonna go and probably fuck up some food or something. Thanks so much for listening to us.

[Host/Interviewer]

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[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

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[Guest/Co-host (possibly Eden or Kayla)]

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[Host/Interviewer]

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