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Just kidding. We tricked you. We have another amazing announcement about upcoming shows and I am not going to sugarcoat it. If you are in London, you can see me, George Severis at the Soho Theater on February 24th. The February 23rd show is sold out, but the 24th still has some tickets.
Sam Taggart
And then I, Sam, am doing an hour in LA three times on March 9, March 24 and April 1. Get tickets to that as well.
George Severis
And if you are in New York City, there are actually quite a few opportunities to see us. We will be doing a stratiolab live show at the Bell House. We are returning home to the Bell House and that is on March 13th, Friday the 13th at 7:30 at the.
Sam Taggart
Bellhouse and then in NYC. I, Sam, I'm doing my hour on the 18th at Union Hall. Getting a bit intimate with it mates.
George Severis
Um, excuse me. Being British is kind of my thing since my shows are in London. So basically if you are in London, New York City or Los Angeles, California, you have various opportunities to see us either together or separately. And that is all we have for now.
Sam Taggart
Cheers. Podcast starts now.
George Severis
And Happy Monday.
Sam Taggart
Happy Monday to all.
George Severis
Happy post. Golden Globes day to all of Hollywood.
Sam Taggart
So you know, who knows when this will be coming out? But when we are recording it is the day after day after the Golden.
George Severis
Globes, which George did.
Sam Taggart
I'll say it was there.
George Severis
I was there. I was not. Despite being employed by actually the Golden Globes organization, De Klerk Productions, I was not able to attend the actual show. I was in the overflow room, of course, various amazing publicists and producers and the people that keep this town running, folks.
Sam Taggart
Well, I think it's good that you weren't the main show because what would you have to look forward to?
George Severis
I literally, I was like, I hadn't eaten all day and I was trying to like find a block of cheese to eat while like, like influencers are doing photo shoots. And people were. Do you know when you feel like legitimately invisible, like people are walking into you.
Sam Taggart
Ye.
George Severis
It was sort of amazing. It was like, it actually felt like Zen Buddhism in that I was like, oh, here I am invisible. Despite the fact that I was in the least Zen Buddhist place of all, which is a room full of kind of vultures and vampires. Yeah, it actually was such an out of body experience that I felt at peace.
Sam Taggart
Well, that's lovely. I have a question. So when you're like working at an event like that, do you transition into sort of employee mode. Like, sort of get pitiful. Whenever I'm in a space like that and working, I get pitiful.
George Severis
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Sam Taggart
Or are you like, I'm taking up my space?
George Severis
No, I think my general plan is, act like you belong, but don't make yourself known. I don't want to be at any point looking around as though I'm lost, even if I don't know where I'm going. I'm power walking.
Ryan Seacrest
You're walking fast.
George Severis
Somebody didn't know where the bathroom was, and I just started walking in a random direction. And I was like, well, if I just keep walking, because we're like, I bump into a wall. Turn right like a sim. I'll eventually find it.
Sam Taggart
But, like, Roomba Mod.
George Severis
Yeah, I went Roomba Mode.
Sam Taggart
You don't know where you're going, but you're going fast.
George Severis
You don't know where I'm going. I have to say, you know, I saw a bunch of celebs.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Were you starstruck?
George Severis
I have to say, I was much more starstruck this morning, meeting our guest than I was meeting anyone I met last night. And it actually really. And we will bring her in. And I feel weird talking about her while she's in the room, but there's something. She walked in. I was like, finally an artist.
Sam Taggart
I know.
George Severis
Like, all these losers to interact with.
Sam Taggart
It was like.
George Severis
I was like, what? I kept talking to people that were completely normal, and then someone will come up to me and be like, did you know that's so. And so. I'm like, okay, well, could have fooled me, because you looked like a normal girl.
Sam Taggart
Well, this is the thing about actors is they're, like, literally just, like, falling into things. Like, you're like, wait, so you're famous?
George Severis
It's.
Sam Taggart
So you just stumbled into that? You just, like, wear really handsome one day.
George Severis
At least act. How do I put this? At least actors look like celebrities. Sort of bad musicians, like, tiktoky. Bad musicians are just normal people. There's something crazy. Like, I'm like, where's the star power? Where's the. I can't imagine you, you know, eating a bat on stage or whatever. I'm like, where's the punk rock?
Sam Taggart
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
George Severis
So anyway, I. I was proud of myself for not being more starstruck. I was like, okay, I have some soul left in me.
Sam Taggart
You're like, to me, you guys are normal. Yeah.
George Severis
I was just pushing aside Amanda Seyfried. I was like, Excuse me. You're in my way.
Sam Taggart
Did. Did you plug the pot at all?
George Severis
Or were you like, Dakota, like, you have to.
Sam Taggart
Come on.
George Severis
Honestly, that's a. See, that's why I will never succeed in this industry. Because, No, I literally was like. I forgot I was there. I forgot I'm in any way involved in the entertainment industry. That's why people kept being like, so.
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What do you do?
George Severis
I'm like, I know, I know. And so when someone.
Sam Taggart
Nothing. I'm a loser.
George Severis
I was like, oh, I wrote for. I wrote for Mary Beth on the carpet. And then someone goes, are you a writer outside of that? And I literally didn't know how to answer. It's like, the answer is yes. Yes, I'm a professional writer. I get paid for it. But I didn't. I was like, oh, well, I've done some writing in the past.
Sam Taggart
It's humiliating. I turn into that so bad. I get, like, sniveling. It's horrible.
George Severis
We need to bring in our guests.
Sam Taggart
We need to bring in our guest. It is such a true honor.
George Severis
I'm buzzing.
Sam Taggart
I'm buzzing. Please. Welcome to the podcast Peaches.
Peaches
Oh, hi.
Sam Taggart
Hi.
Peaches
There isn't one person that you were starstruck about.
Sam Taggart
Thank you.
George Severis
Okay, you know what? Thank you for this.
Sam Taggart
Call him out.
George Severis
Listen, when Julia Roberts walked by, you know, we grow up, like, that's someone that has been America's sweetheart since we were kids. Obviously, I was starstruck. But the thing is, I don't think I said this to you earlier, but, like, my specific job there was on the carpet itself, so I legitimately saw every single. Like, I probably saw 200 famous people.
Peaches
Right?
George Severis
And so you get desensitized so fast. Like, I. At so, you know, you turn around at some point, you see, I don't know, Leonardo DiCaprio or something, and he's like, the 10th famous person in 30 seconds that you've seen. It's just a sort of like, all right, keep it moving.
Peaches
But you don't. Because you don't hear what they're saying. You just see them. Because, like, if they said something that could actually, like, pique your interest.
George Severis
Yes, well, that did happen to me, and I have to redact the names. But an A list actress. I was talking to her. Okay. An A list actor walks in. She goes, oh, here comes so and so. He's gay.
Peaches
What does that mean? What does that mean?
George Severis
If she meant that he was actually gay or she was making a joke, I sort of had this theory, and maybe this is mildly Sexist. I had this theory that maybe he had rejected her in the past, and so then she had to, like, for her own vanity.
Sam Taggart
Find a narrative.
Peaches
Find a narrative. Like, I still like him.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, exactly.
George Severis
But the tone. I was like, you're kooky.
Sam Taggart
Well, that's interesting, too.
Peaches
Wait, so you thought that was interesting?
George Severis
I did. Would you not think it was interesting?
Peaches
I was just like. See, I was on. Okay. I was playing charades, okay. With a bunch of people, which is funny. With Germans who are not funny. And one person was like, oh, yeah, yeah. No, this band, you know, they're cool, but, you know, they're gay. And I was just like, what do you mean?
George Severis
Oh, you thought they were using it, like, the derogatory way.
Peaches
I just didn't understand what it means. What does it mean? Like, yeah, you know, they're. They're. They're cool.
George Severis
They're gay. What?
Peaches
Like it was some kind of, like, crutch or some kind of, like. I don't know. So I don't know if it's interesting. Yeah, it's kind of like. Okay, so what is that the most interesting?
George Severis
I think what's interesting is just the idea of this, like, elegant actress in, like, a beautiful dress seeing a guy walk in and being, like, gay alert.
Peaches
Okay. Right, okay.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Well, it shows, like, a weird immaturity, like.
George Severis
Exactly.
Peaches
Okay.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
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George Severis
Well, I think that's what it is. And I think that was the most interesting thing about it, is seeing people let down their hair a little bit and be. Because you're, like, among their own kind, like, be gossiping.
Peaches
I thought that's what they do.
Sam Taggart
I know, I know.
Peaches
I thought they do gossip.
George Severis
I know.
Peaches
Strategically gossiping.
George Severis
Strategically gossiping. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Was anyone too drunk?
George Severis
I wish.
Peaches
Oh, that's funny.
George Severis
Well, that's the thing. It's like. I don't know if you feel this way in the music world, but, like, I do think people, because there's phones everywhere, have gotten very worried about seeming out of control in any way.
Peaches
Yeah, I think that's across the board.
George Severis
Yeah. But that does make things like that less interesting. That's true. Yeah. I didn't see anyone. I mean, I'm sure there were people doing drugs and stuff, and not in front of me, but I feel like. I don't know, a few. Like, 20 years ago, I would have been seeing people do lines at the after party.
Peaches
Right, Right.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
They didn't, like, go in the bathroom and make that a thing like you want to come with, and then you feel left out because they didn't invite you. And then, you know. Then you say, okay, once. And then they're like, come, come, come, let's go. And then you don't want to again. Then they're like, oh, you're leaving behind.
George Severis
Yeah, totally.
Peaches
Totally. It's like this whole game. Like, it's.
George Severis
Yeah. They, like, become mad at you.
Peaches
Yeah. They're mad at you because you're not doing enough or you don't want to do it at all. Or, oh, okay. Then you're out.
George Severis
Yeah.
Peaches
And it's like. But it's like. I remember I was a person just put it on the table. They made lines for everyone. And they were like, do it or not? I'm doing it. I just think, like, not that I care, but it was. I care that they try and make it so secretive. Secretive. And that it's like, that's their little thing. Like, that's gonna, like, bring us together.
Sam Taggart
Totally.
George Severis
Well, the whole point of. I don't know, you would think the whole point of partying and substances is, like, to be inclusive in some way.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
Yeah. But it's all like. I didn't. You didn't?
Sam Taggart
Yeah. It's to find new level of exclusion because, like, first you have to get in, then you have to get into the bathroom with these two people.
George Severis
Yeah, exactly.
Sam Taggart
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Peaches
It's funny because there's. There's. In Berlin. I start to say these things. No, but it's just cute. They have, like. They have a room, and everybody knows that's the room where you want to. If you want to do that, you go in there. If you don't, you don't have to see it. But it's open, like, to go in there.
George Severis
I want to ask you about Berlin because you mentioned something which is, of course, a universal truth, which is that Germans are not funny. You are very funny. Which we're gonna get into because we wanna talk about the new album. My sister lives in Germany. I've spent time in Germany. How do you deal with that?
Peaches
It's hilarious.
Sam Taggart
How do you deal with that?
Peaches
It's really funny because it's just, like, sometimes you wonder if it's like, English as a second language, because, you know. Which is not fair because I'm not learning German, even though I'm there for so long, but if it's English as a second language, or they just can't let themselves go, they're just like, oh, no. Or they don't get it. Or there's this sort of, like, a cultural history with certain words that feed into each other in North America that they just don't get. I wish I could, like, cite a perfect example right now, but I cannot think about it. But they used to have this commercial, like, a long time ago, which I thought was pretty funny for Germans. They were. It was talking about, learn English, and it was a commercial. And in the commercial, there's guys in a submarine and they're like, sinking. And they're like, help, help. We're sinking. We're sinking. They're Americans. We're sinking. And the Germans asking, like, what are you thinking about?
George Severis
Well, that's hilarious.
Sam Taggart
But I thought that was good.
Peaches
That's their humor. They love, like, slapstick humor.
Sam Taggart
Oh, really?
Peaches
Which is really, like, base, immature, like, whoa, somebody fell. Which is so funny because they hide themselves. They. They pride themselves in such, like, high, you know, self. Intellectual.
Sam Taggart
Well, I do think it's like the. It's, like, so much funnier to see a serious person slip and fall on a banana peel than, like, a silly person. Maybe that's, like, what it is.
Peaches
That's true.
George Severis
Well, yeah, the funny thing is always the opposite.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
What you're used to. But I also. I wonder if slapstick, you know, with the Germans, obviously, the elephant in the room is always, oh, our history. I wonder if this slapstick is a way for them, again, is a way for them to be like, well, if it's as far removed from the cerebral as possible. Like, there's no way for slapstick to be problematic. It's ultimately like the joke comes from the physical comedy. The joke comes from falling. You can't accidentally say the wrong thing. Whereas.
Sam Taggart
Well, it's also kind of like self flagellation.
George Severis
It's self flagellation.
Peaches
Right, Right. Okay, that's cool.
George Severis
Whereas, like, a more sort of like, intellectual humor or like your type of humor that's more sort of like sexual and wordplay and toeing the line of being offensive. But then, like, bringing it back in, that's maybe too risky.
Peaches
It's funny because I was in, like, a State Theater production of a Bertolbrecht play where you can't, like, change stuff. So. But the director did this amazing thing where she turned it into like, a very, like, modern feminist act where she started to. After the actual play, she started to bring in other elements, and it turned into a Peaches show where I could do what I want, but they had, like, translation of my lyrics, and they just didn't translate in the poetic sense that I find them in their double entendres. And so people after the show, they were like, that was very crass. You said this. And I'm like, well, it was so hard to explain, too, to understand how that's, like, funny or interesting.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah. The new album. No lube so rude.
Peaches
No lube so rude.
Sam Taggart
February 20th, you should say.
George Severis
Yeah, we've been listening to it.
Sam Taggart
We've been listening. It's to die for. It's so. It's like abrasive, funny, like, it's dancy fun. And then, like. Yeah, you really are, like, so good at toeing that line of abrasive. And then, like, pulling it back and being, like, sweet.
George Severis
And then moments of transcendence and, like, true emotional depth, I think. Yeah, like, it's. It's like double entendre. Double entendre. Lube, Sex, whole. And then suddenly it's like. And then suddenly something will, like, take. You'll be like, oh, this was all leading to, like, this profound statement. I. I just was really. It almost feels like a culmination. Do you feel like it's like a culmination of, I don't know, everything you've done in the past?
Peaches
I mean, is it. You kind of feel like, how can I bring in everything that I've done, but also really feel present in 2026, you know? And I think production wise, it's got real 2026 feel to it. I think that I felt pushed more to just, like, go for the real dance and the real, like, power of it, you know, just like. Yeah, it's not easy, though, of course. But, yeah, I wanted to bring in emotion and vulnerability, but also understand that the revolution needs joy. The revolution needs humor.
George Severis
Yeah, well, the revolution is humor.
Peaches
And the revolution is on. Oh, my God. And also, like, the. Sorry, I didn't mean to end.
Sam Taggart
Please.
Peaches
Sorry. I'm Canadian, so I got so the last album ten years ago, and it just seems like it's. It's hitting harder and you got to go in harder and deeper.
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George Severis
What I love about this album especially, but your music more broadly is a lot of the messages you have, which are about like, you know, there's a great lyric that's like, technocrats eat a jock strap.
Peaches
Technocrats eat a jock strap.
George Severis
It's great. So, I mean, obviously it is anti imperialist. It is anti capitalist. It is, you know, you have very progressive politics. But so often music with those messages is like, kind of corny and you are completely not that at all. And it's always humor first.
Peaches
I appreciate that. It's really hard and I appreciate it. But that's really the point.
George Severis
Yes.
Peaches
Because I want it to be music.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
But also like laugh out loud funny. I don't know. We keep saying that because that's.
Sam Taggart
I mean, like the God I should have wrote.
George Severis
I wrote some lyrics like, the, like, Panna cotta.
Peaches
Panna cotta Delight.
Sam Taggart
That song. I was like, this is so funny. Like, this is wild.
Peaches
You mean, like. Like, I'm. Yes. I'm old, solid gold. A woman in control of all her holes and my roles. I feel my goals.
George Severis
Wait, I'm trying to find.
Sam Taggart
And, like, what was the, like, jizz?
George Severis
Wait. If you sneeze, I say bless you. If you beg, I will fist you up your ass.
Peaches
Pass the title. Swear to me. Icon issues.
George Severis
I mean, come on.
Sam Taggart
No, it's so amazing.
George Severis
I got venereal. Take me away. Straight to the clinic, convert you to gay.
Peaches
Keep it up or get out of my way.
George Severis
Straight to the clinic, convert you to gay is so iconic.
Sam Taggart
No, that's really good.
George Severis
It's like, okay, so.
Peaches
And also, like, it's crazy because all the, like, conversion. The conversion camps are coming back. It's like, well, let's convert the other way. Like, do that. And I think I play a lot with that, like, absurdity that I find things so absurd that if you switch it, people find it more absurd. But if you look at it, it's kind of the same thing.
George Severis
Well, you actually are doing what comedians are supposed to do, which is strip fascist topics of their seriousness by making fun of them. You are saying, look at how stupid that is, and you're flipping it on its head.
Sam Taggart
Well, we talk about this a lot where it's like, people right now love to point out hypocrisy, and it's sort of like it doesn't do anything. It's sort of like. Well, they have to feel shame. If you want to point out hypocrisy and you just being like, I'm making fun of you. I'm telling you to eat a jock strap. It's like, almost, like, juvenile in the right ways.
Peaches
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people have feelings about. Sorry, that, like, South Park. But to me, it's got that, like, insane toilet humor. But also doing that. I'm sure people have feelings, whatever. But I really. That hit me hard.
Sam Taggart
No, I'm a South park stand.
George Severis
Yeah. Well, I want to. We wanted to talk to you about. People, ask you a lot about your musical influences, but I want to talk about your comedic influences. So, I mean, I'm definitely getting South Park. I'm definitely getting, like, John Waters. Like, who else has influenced you?
Peaches
I mean, I don't know influence, but I love Maria Branford.
George Severis
Oh, my God.
Peaches
There's somebody who's taken, like, mental health personally, but also, like, shown who she is. And also, like, you don't know. You don't know where you stand with that in such a really important way. And like, also, like, almost like, oh, are you okay? But also, this is amazing. You just did a stand up just for your parents. Like, what?
George Severis
And another person who, you know, talking about mental health is another thing that often can be corny, and she's never corny. I guess that's probably like, the biggest challenge as an artist.
Peaches
Yeah. I really, you know, I became friends with Sarah Squirm.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
And before I saw the. The Special. And there are so many elements that we relate to each other that we're so excited about, basically. Prolapse.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Less than body hair. A lot of body hair.
Peaches
But the. Yeah, the. The main. For my live show, the main theme is prolapse. It used to be like, dick ho, but now we're all like, let's be more inclusive.
George Severis
When do you think all of us. Prolapse shift happened? Like 2016, Trump's first election, Definitely.
Peaches
I looked at his face and I thought, prolapse.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. We're in the prolapse era.
George Severis
We're in the prolapse era.
Peaches
We are in a prolapse era.
George Severis
This is genius, actually. Like, I really think it's the perfect metaphor for the era we're in because.
Peaches
It'S humiliating and high reality, but actually so interest. So many layers, completely layers. So many, like, just shades of colors and shapes.
Sam Taggart
And there's also sort of a. Like, we did this to ourselves.
Peaches
Yeah, that's a good point there.
Sam Taggart
That's interesting.
George Severis
Yeah. Then there's something about, you know, you live your whole life with a tight asshole and you're saying this, you know, okay, I know how to go through life with a tight asshole. Suddenly it's prolapsed. How can we work with this? Like, it's about resetting your expectations because we live in a prolapse world.
Sam Taggart
Damn. Beautiful. Yeah.
Peaches
Yeah. And things that grow in places that you didn't expect them to, because if it grew in, you know, when your genitals grew in your breast, that would be a sort of badge of honor for some, you know.
Sam Taggart
No, we are in also in, like, a fisting era in an interesting way.
George Severis
Fisting is a huge part of your new record.
Peaches
Fisting is a huge part of my new record.
Sam Taggart
I just heard the fisting lines and I was like, she still lives in Berlin.
George Severis
No.
Peaches
Yeah, There's a lot of fisting. It's funny. Yeah. Because there's a lot of fisting lines. More I realized I thought I didn't have. And then I look back. There are also fisting lines from before. But, yeah, I feel like it's more like. Like also. Just like, metaphysical or also the symbol of power or like, fight too, you know?
George Severis
Yeah. There was a play we both saw in New York called Prince Faggot that was sort of like, had a moment. Yeah. And there's a monologue about. And of course I'm gonna butcher it. But it's like how when you fist someone, you can feel their heartbeat or something. And it was trying to make some connection between, you know, the embodied fisting experience and some more profound, like, human connection becoming closer. Yeah. Yeah. Which I feel like is very. This rec. Very. No lube. So rude.
Peaches
Okay. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
This is something. I feel like I've been doing this sex bit recently on stage, which kind of makes me, like, anxious. Like, I'm always like. I'm like, is this weird? Like, I get, like, shameful talking about sex stuff, and I'm like, do you ever feel like, is that something you had to work through or was it very, like. I. I'm comfortable with this off the bat.
Peaches
I think, to be completely honest with you, shameful in real life is a. More of a topic working through, but performatively, it makes a lot of sense.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
So I don't. I don't feel shame in that way. And I feel like it's a setting free and it's a manifestation.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
But there's still stuff to, like, work through through childhood, cultural. All that stuff that, you know, shame. Like, we are. We are born and bred to be shameful of our bodies.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
Like that. That is what it is. You know, if you think about. And all the, like. All the swear words are parts of your body. Like, you dick. You asshole. Such a tit. Whatever. Like, you always say these things are all negative. Fuck you. You know, like acts and things like that. Yes. We're taking cunt back, but, you know, it's. It's. We're just like. That's what we're supposed to. And that's all we have.
Ryan Seacrest
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George Severis
I guess I've never thought about that. Like, the most human parts of us are what we use as swear words.
Peaches
Yeah, exactly.
Sam Taggart
That's true.
Peaches
You tooth?
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Damn.
George Severis
Okay, so you mentioned the album being very 2026, which I really agree with. Well, we were talking about. Do you know Kim Petras?
Peaches
Yeah. Not personally, but we were talking.
George Severis
Sam made this point that it's very, like, slut pop.
Peaches
Wow. I love that album. It Made me proud. I felt like this is next level of what I've. Like this is what I envisioned pop music totally. You know, And I felt like that was a big moment. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
That was a wild one. And this feels very. In that same vein, in a nice way where it's so viscerally about sex. It's not like hiding it.
Peaches
I feel like. Well, I feel like again, I don't know if it's about sexual acts as much as like slut pop. Like, you know, fuck me how you want to just fuck me, fuck me. You know, stuff like that. Which is great. But I feel like it's more like. Yeah. Around the political end idea of using sex as like metaphor, but also not in like a shy way.
George Severis
Yeah. You're using the language of sex, the language. Explore themes of fascism and revolution.
Peaches
I mean, but that's what's up. Like, it's like you can't, you know. Oh, just like if we just. Just everything, like just all the, you know, backlashes, trans issues, the queer issues, all the, you know, the secretive Epstein files. Like all of it. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense why that is secret and why, you know, when you're probably giving $0.72 a year of your taxes for transgender affirmation care. It's like 72 cents a year. Why are you complaining? Like, I'm not giving my money to that, you know?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
Or like 0.02% of the college athletes are trans. Why is it even a top? So it's just like. But then there is like full out crazy Epstein trauma. People, lives ruined. Like, and that's hidden, you know, and that's. And they're not the same. You know, one is, there's gender and there's sex, but it's all about our bodies and having our understanding. Like letting us be us. Everybody let everybody be themselves.
George Severis
Yeah. How do you go about translating the feeling you're describing now into actual words? Because I feel like you are someone who is empathetic. Feels a lot like. I assume when you read the news, it like hurts you if you read something, you know, very, very violent or traumatic. And yet the music is actually very focused. It's not like you yelling into a mic and just like. Like it's very focused.
Peaches
And some people would think that.
George Severis
Sure, sure, sure. Some people are precise, but you know what I mean, the lyrics are precise. The production is very careful. So what is the process like translating all the. All that cloudy chaos into. Into something concrete?
Peaches
I don't Know. Does it. You just try. You just try it. I mean, it's. I feel like. I love like all out anger and I love moments of that, and I think I have that on the album too. Like, not in your mouth. None of your business.
George Severis
Oh, I love that one.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
Right. Right there with it. But also I want. I want. I want people to dance. Like, this has always been my thing. I want people to dance along with it and then go like, oh, what did I just sing along with? Oh, whoa. Yeah, I sing along with that. Yeah, that feels even better. To sing, dance along with or change, you know, I don't know. Just trying away. Yeah.
George Severis
Who. I know we talked a little bit about Kim. Who are other, like younger, younger, like newer people that you're inspired by or that you feel like kinship with.
Peaches
I feel like there's a lot. It's really fun actually, because I. I feel. I have a feeling either if it's musically or stylistically or lyrically. I feel like somebody's close to me and I'll contact them and it's like, hello, mother, I've been waiting for you. And it's so fun. So even. Yeah, so. But someone like Cortez Estar, I don't know if you know them, they're like taking hip hop to a really, like a weird, awesome, like, just blown out way. And it's. It's very cool. They're gonna be opening for me on part of the tour. Also. Pixel Grip will be opening and they're more like this like heavy electro style. There's a German band, Brutalismos 3000, that reminds me a lot of like more Crystal Castles or early like digital hardcore from Berlin. And I mean, there's a lot of people. I feel like what's cool about music, about musicians and the music people are making now that's not as pure. Like there were this questions of purist back then, especially when I started. Like, what kind of music is this? Is this rock? Is this performance art? Is this. You know, now it's like you could have like speed metal and like Celine Dion vocal, you know, all. And then it could switch to. To like, like a pop, a hyper pop ballad. Like, it's just. It's all mixed up and I think that that's. That's healthy.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, it can be freeing.
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George Severis
Sure.
Sam Taggart
Okay, we're gonna do our first segment.
Peaches
It's a segment.
Sam Taggart
So our first segment is called Straight Shooters. And in this segment we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions. It's basically this thing or this other thing and you just pick one. And the only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or we.
George Severis
Will just have to go with your gut. You have to Just go with your gut.
Peaches
Okay.
Sam Taggart
Okay. George, kick us off.
George Severis
Yes, I will kick us off.
Ryan Seacrest
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Sam Taggart
Wait.
Peaches
What if I don't know what you're talking. I hear a question.
George Severis
Okay, Ready?
Peaches
Angry.
George Severis
No lube. So rude. Or no food? I'm stoofed.
Peaches
No lube. So rude.
Sam Taggart
Okay. No lube. So rude. Or you snooze, you lose.
Peaches
No lube. So rude.
George Severis
Burning bush or itchy tush?
Peaches
Ooh, Itchy tush.
Sam Taggart
Teachers of peaches or teaches of Ivy League institutions?
George Severis
Boys want to be her? Or Toy Story 3 sucks?
Peaches
Boys want to be her.
Sam Taggart
Okay. An early riser or a girly geyser?
Peaches
Oh, a girly geyser.
George Severis
Jesus Christ Superstar or Pedro Motivar.
Peaches
Yeah, that's okay.
Sam Taggart
Posting a nude or fisting a dude?
Peaches
Oh, fisting and dude, of course.
George Severis
Wow. Well, we rank all our guests performance on a scale of 0 to 1000 doves. And I'm gonna be honest, that was a clean 1000.
Sam Taggart
Clean 1000 doves. Incredible work.
Peaches
Has. Has anybody not got.
George Severis
Oh, yes.
Sam Taggart
I think maybe usually punish people.
George Severis
I think maybe only four people have gotten, like, around there.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
Yeah.
Peaches
Is that when doves cry?
George Severis
No, it's actually from a little known lady gaga song called 1000 Doves from the Chromatica album. Oh, it's a deep cut.
Peaches
No, I was just saying that what happens.
George Severis
Yes, exactly.
Peaches
Thank you for that fun fact.
George Severis
Of course.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
Do you know the rapper Cupcake?
Peaches
Oh, yeah.
George Severis
Don't you think she's amazing?
Peaches
Oh, yeah.
George Severis
Because I feel like she's in your tradition.
Sam Taggart
Vagina. Yeah.
George Severis
Like, I feel like you two.
Peaches
I love Cupcake. Very hardcore. Like, very hardcore. Way more hardcore than I could ever be.
George Severis
Her new album, which didn't get as much critical attention like, a few months ago.
Peaches
Oh, right.
George Severis
It didn't get enough. There wasn't enough written about it. But it's. She's like, lyrically at the peak of her powers. It's crazy. Like, you just. It's like a genius at work.
Peaches
Yes. You know what? I'm also really proud of a lot of, like, flatuation. Flatulation references. Yeah. And. And also I just. I'm more like, you know, making things more funny or real in that way.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Well, that's Ice Spice.
Peaches
Oh, Ice Spice also. Yeah.
George Severis
Ice Spice also.
Sam Taggart
Talking about farts.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
I always confuse self flagellation and flatulation. I'm always like flatulation. I'm always like.
Peaches
Maybe that's one of your questions.
George Severis
Or self flagellation. Well, actually, in the prolapse world, it's almost like Those two converged self. Flagellation. Converged with flagellation. And we got prolapse.
Peaches
But you know that like, haircut. Is it like a, A, a. A quiff?
Sam Taggart
Like a, like a quaff?
Peaches
A quaff. A qu. What's a quiff? Nothing.
Sam Taggart
I don't think.
George Severis
I don't know it. Well, sorry, you're saying a coif and a queef.
Peaches
Yeah, yeah, your coif queefed.
Sam Taggart
My coif is queef.
George Severis
My quaff is quite.
Peaches
If you have like a. A special kind of quaff. Merkin.
Sam Taggart
Oh, you could queef through your coif.
George Severis
You could. You know, I always love a merkin is referenced in your album as well. And I always love when people reference a merkin.
Peaches
Yes.
George Severis
Because it reminds me of the time when Bin Laden was assassinated and my friend said, I'm proud to be a merkin, as in an American.
Sam Taggart
Wow. I couldn't believe that's where that was going. Yeah, the merkin always confused me. I was sort of like, wait, so why did this exist?
Peaches
It was for. I mean, I don't really know, but I think that it was. Was it during the plague or during some really bad history time where people were having a lot of trouble and sex workers had to shave their hair and to be more attractive, they used merkins. And this is a different answer I've given on a different podcast, so I don't know which one.
George Severis
Mostly what you're promoting is that historical.
Peaches
Knowledge own method, like making up what the mercury is about.
Sam Taggart
I mean, that's as good as a reason as any I can think of.
Peaches
Yeah, but I know that it's about like. I don't know if it was the plague or. But I know that people had to shave for health reasons. And then they were embarrassed and put on merkins, which is so cool because now it's like the opposite. The opposite.
Sam Taggart
Well, except the bush is back.
George Severis
The bush is back.
Peaches
Yeah, Bring back the bush. I. There is a really cool musician, another one in Berlin named Dornica or Dornica, and she has an awesome song called Bring back the Bush.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I love that. Well, should we get into our straight topic? Yes.
George Severis
Well, we touched on it a little bit.
Sam Taggart
Touched on it a little bit. So, you know, we asked the guest to bring a straight topic and we discussed ahead of time what we would talk about. We decided award shows.
George Severis
Award shows. Cause we were, you know, we're sort of talking about the Golden Globes, blah, blah, blah. And you said something which shocked me. You were like, I've never been to an award show?
Peaches
No.
George Severis
Does it appeal to you at all?
Peaches
I think it's like a weird thing where you say it doesn't appeal to you at all, but if you're being honored, then you're like, oh, I can't do. And you're like, what am I doing? So in a way, you're sort of, like, perpetuating what everybody else does on these award shows. Oh, I was on one award show.
George Severis
What was it?
Peaches
It was like the Enemy. You know, the Enemy Awards. A long time ago, I gave an award to Radiohead.
George Severis
Oh.
Peaches
And I remember reading out and was. I'm. I screwed it up because I read it out and I said, and the winner's me. You know, like, trying to be different and funny.
George Severis
And then Tom York came out with a cane.
Peaches
York came up like, okay, thanks. It's actually my.
George Severis
Now that's someone with a real amazing sense of humor.
Peaches
I don't know. Maybe they really do. I don't. I don't know. I don't know.
Sam Taggart
I guess I don't technically know.
Peaches
Yeah, they don't project it very obviously, but yeah. So I don't know if I'm built for award shows. I also get a lot of anxiety if you have to read teleprompters. I feel it so weird. I'm like, it goes too fast and you just don't feel spontaneous.
George Severis
Have you ever performed in, like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure it's not like a corporate gig, but, like, for a room of, like, stiff, businessy, famous people where you're just like, it's not your crowd and you just have to go through the motions of the show.
Peaches
I've definitely performed for Stiffies, but not really a bunch of celebrities.
George Severis
Yeah. Not like a Grammys.
Peaches
No. Oh, no, no. The closest thing I did was Samantha Bee's. This is not the Correspondent Dinner.
George Severis
Oh, that's fun.
Peaches
But that was fun.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
And everyone's on your side.
Peaches
Yeah. I mean, yeah. So I haven't really had that, but I've had Stiff people where I've, like, maybe played for, like, some kind of fundraiser where there's, like, people who are patrons and they don't know who I am. And I remember one time I decided to do this act where I go to sing in white pants, and then my period just happens to the pants and they're tear aways. So I'm, like, standing there and I never sing and the music's playing and then blood is seeping through the white pants. And then I pull them off, and it's just kind of bloody on my. And then this woman was so terrified that I ran off stage and ran after her.
George Severis
And that was a fundraiser for St. Jude's Children's Hospital. Right.
Peaches
It was like an art thing, actually. But, yeah, I started just running after people. I was like, what can I do now?
Sam Taggart
That's amazing. I will say. I'm always like. I, like, feel. I'm always like, yes, please. More punk rock. Be nasty. And then one time, I was watching a Sarah Squirm. Like, I was watching Sarah squirm, and I just started getting so genuinely nauseous. And I was like, I'm gonna throw up, like. And it. Like, I was like, what is going on? Like, I had to leave and, like, go dry, heave outside for a little bit. And I was like, what is wrong with you?
George Severis
Well, this is honestly how I feel.
Peaches
Did you understand? Did you find out what it was?
Sam Taggart
I don't. I think it was just like, you get nauseous, I get nauseous.
George Severis
I struggle with body horror, I have to say. And it makes me feel like such a little dwee. Because I'm like, in theory. I think it's so cool. I think in theory. In theory. I love David Cronenberg movies, but every time I watch them, I'm like, oh.
Peaches
God, just sticking the finger.
Sam Taggart
I mean, even the Pit or something, I'm like, I'm gonna. I always. I watch, like this.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Peaches
There's a performance artist in Europe. She's from Vienna. Her name is Florentina Holzinger. I talk about her a lot. Cause she's incred. She does, like, these huge productions that are both. Like, everyone is female, identified and naked on stage. Like chainsawing wood or, like, motorcycle driving around other bodies or falling down stairs. But also just, like, high art and just crazy, crazy, amazing stuff. And they did a. A recreation of an old opera called Sancta, which is about lesbian nuns. And there were people that got fully nauseous during this. People were running out and puking. Because there's also. They also do, like, hooking.
Sam Taggart
Oh, that's hard. That's hard to watch.
George Severis
We were just at Folsom Street Fair. Have you ever been there in San Francisco?
Peaches
Yes, I have.
George Severis
And fisting, fisting, pissing.
Sam Taggart
And, like, I celebrate all of it. But it's like, there is, like, I got nauseous.
George Severis
Well, you know what's funny? It's like, all the whole. The reason those things are empowering is because you're taking people that are participating, are taking back something that should be shameful.
Peaches
Yeah.
George Severis
And then you are confronted with your own inherent prejudices and shame. No matter how accepting and inclusive you think you are, it's like you see something unfamiliar, something that is combining something that's shameful with something that's sexual. And you don't have time to unpack that in the moment. So in the moment, you're like, ew.
Peaches
Well, I have. Well, first I wanted to say, like, when you had that experience at the Sarah Squirm show, was it live? Like, you were there?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
So were you like, I hate this show, or.
Sam Taggart
No, it was like. I think I was performing, too, so I was also probably nervous. And so I was like. I think I was, like, watching her getting nauseous. Both. Sometimes I get nauseous even just before performing, if I get nervous.
Peaches
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
I think it was a combo.
Peaches
Yeah, I understand that.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
I used to get nauseous a lot more. This is not about sexual anything, but in cars and in planes. And then I realized it's because my mom was smoking in the car with the windows up and people were smoking on planes.
Sam Taggart
Oh, that makes sense.
Peaches
I realized, oh, it's the smoking that makes me nuts.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. But I still, like, obviously always loved Sarah's vibe. I was just like, it was hidden. It was hidden in a different way.
George Severis
Well, there is. I do think there's an entire, I don't know, sort of genre of things that you can, like, in theory, but not impress. I don't think that's true for Sarah. We both love Sarah, but, like, there are just things, even music, too, where I'm like, in theory, it's so cool someone is doing this, and I want so badly to like it, but it's not for me.
Peaches
Right. Like, in theory, Gigi Allen shitting on stage is cool, but do I really want to smell that shit? And do I want him to hold it up to my nose?
George Severis
Exactly.
Sam Taggart
Exactly.
George Severis
Were you aware of the time when Lady Gaga had a vomit artist vomit on her at south by Southwest?
Peaches
Yes, it was green vomit.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Yes.
Peaches
Yeah.
George Severis
That's a great example of what happened.
Peaches
You know what's so funny? Cause the Florentina Holzinger, I had seen her do that. Exactly. With green vomit. Not say, I don't know that. That Lady Gaga knew anything about that. But there was also this Jubal Brown. There was this Toronto artist who. And I don't know if it was. There's a. Okay, now I'm gonna get Is there's some art history. Monet or not Monet, but some. Some artist doesn't use a certain color.
George Severis
Oh, Monet. Literally, like, the artist. I thought you were talking about some, like, avant garde or like.
Peaches
Someone in your podcast right now is like. But they literally had that color, like, in their mouth and entered the museum and puked all over the paintings in that color.
Sam Taggart
Whoa.
George Severis
Oh, my God.
Peaches
This is like, a huge history of, like, performance art.
George Severis
Yeah.
Peaches
And puking like.
George Severis
I want to know more about your relationship to the art world, because it's something that. That is so. The art world is often so alienating to me and to both of us, I think, because it's such a closed black box, and so often it feels like it's a way for rich people to launder money.
Peaches
Very valid.
George Severis
You know what I mean? But then occasionally you will see something. You'll walk into a gallery and see something transcendent, and you're like, okay, so there is still interesting stuff happening, but I feel so not knowledgeable about where to go and where to find it. Like, are you involved in that world?
Peaches
I have friends that are artists.
George Severis
Yeah.
Peaches
And I like their work, and I feel their. Their work is important. I. You know, the art world is very confusing. I. I can't even understand it, so.
George Severis
Because I feel like you overlap with that. That, like, I think people could call you a performance artist. You're laundering money.
Peaches
I'm laundering money through merkins.
George Severis
Oh, that's amazing.
Sam Taggart
That's huge. A big line of mer.
George Severis
Do a line of merkins. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Have you thought about that?
George Severis
Yeah. What brand partnerships are we thinking for this album? Cycle, Uber Eats. Maybe an AI company.
Peaches
Yes. All the AI companies.
Sam Taggart
Google, Department of Defense.
George Severis
Google will be great for you. Write that down.
Peaches
Yeah. How do you spell it again?
Sam Taggart
We'll look it up. We'll look it up.
Peaches
I have done. I did. I used to sell mirkins at my show.
George Severis
Oh, fun.
Peaches
Yeah.
George Severis
They were the color that Monet is not allowed to use.
Ryan Seacrest
No, you.
Peaches
We had the. Like, the paint beside it, and you could puke on the merkin.
Sam Taggart
Oh, that's nice. Puke on your own. It's more sanitary that way.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
I guess. To return to award shows, being straight. Yes. I think this is something. This is maybe. I hate when. This is a new peeve I'm building.
Peaches
Okay.
Sam Taggart
Where it's like when things are for the cameras more than the people in the room, and they have people in the room. Like, I can see the exhaustion of people, like, sitting there being like, okay, we Gotta, like, smile more because it's all gonna be on camera. Like, we gotta take it again because it's gonna be on. And I'd rather they, like, do an event, film it, and then, like, cut it together later.
Peaches
Right.
Sam Taggart
Because I get annoyed when something is a live event as a performance of what a live event is and not actually just a live event.
Peaches
Do they do that? A lot of award shows do it over again.
Sam Taggart
I feel like they're, like, taking stuff again if it doesn't, like, if they stumble over it or, like. I mean, maybe that's not true.
George Severis
It doesn't have that, like. I don't know. So few things now have that, like, live feel where you think, like, something could go wrong and maybe someone makes a mistake and takes the wrong step. Like. Like it's also edited or something.
Sam Taggart
Well, there's like, a sanitization where even, like, you, like, saying, like, and the winner is me. I'm like, we need more people should do that. We need people to, like, fuck with it a little bit.
George Severis
Yeah. Why didn't Julia Roberts do that at the Golden Globes? That would have been so funny.
Peaches
Did she win?
George Severis
No. She presented one of the big awards, like, Best Picture or something, Right?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
What was the best? I don't.
George Severis
I didn't want to tell you. Best Picture comedy was one battle after another, which is crazy that it was included in Best Comedy. Not really a comedy. And then Best Picture Drama was Hamnet.
Peaches
Have you seen that?
George Severis
No.
Sam Taggart
Me either.
George Severis
Have you?
Peaches
No. I'm curious.
George Severis
I'm curious, too. I've heard Jessie Buckley, who won Best Actress last night, is phenomenal in it. And she's sort of cool to me.
Sam Taggart
She seems cool. Yeah.
George Severis
Sorry, go ahead.
Sam Taggart
Well, no, and then the other issue, of course, is, like, awards for creativity is completely insane.
George Severis
I know.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. I'm always like, why are we doing this?
Peaches
And then also, why do people dress up? Why is everybody dressing? A red carpet look. And then it's like judging. It's just judging all the time. Yeah, it's more judging again, it's judging the best award is judging the best outfit. And it's like.
George Severis
But yeah, it's interesting because award shows in some ways are very gay. I mean, obviously there are creators pageantry for gay guys. But there is something. I think it's almost like they're gay. In retrospect, they're gay as, like, cultural moments. You can look back on and be like, oh, she was fabulous, blah, blah. But in the moment, it's very straight because it feels like they're just herding cattle. They're like, look at this one. She lost weight. Look at this one. Her hair is different. Look at this one. She got a divorce. It's just like. It's truly just like a lineup of people that are being judged. I feel like something that's very straight is, like, the archetype of the Entertainment Tonight, like, interview someone who's like, so we're having an amazing time here, Peaches. The new album is fabulous.
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George Severis
You know, and so I do think it's, like, in the moment, there's almost something, like.
Peaches
Sounds very campy the way you're saying it.
Sam Taggart
That's true.
George Severis
I know it is.
Sam Taggart
Well, you're doing, like, Hunger Games style.
George Severis
Hunger Games.
Sam Taggart
There's, like, a little more fun.
George Severis
It is very Hunger Games.
Sam Taggart
That's true. But I feel like there's such a lack of imperfection. Like, everything has to be, like, so perfect. And even when someone's being like, I'm rocker, they're like, yeah, I didn't do that.
Peaches
Yeah.
George Severis
Well, the other thing that's straight about it is that in theory, they're trying to reward art, but in practice, to state the obvious, there's campaigns happening and money. And of course, the Best actor award is not gonna go to, I don't know, the person that gave the best performance, whatever that means. It's gonna go to whatever studio paid more. So it is, like. I think the straight thing about it is just turning art into competition, which, like, you know. But then, of course, the camp comes out of that because it's so rigid that you can. The seams start to show, and that's when it's fine.
Peaches
Right. It has to be so surface, but so, like.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah. You can find depth in the shallowness. To quote Daria.
Peaches
There you go.
Sam Taggart
I do think being a presenter in award show is, like, seems kind of fun.
George Severis
Oh, totally.
Sam Taggart
Like, because it's such a low. Like, I feel like the bit you have to do, like, doesn't have to be, like, amazing, amazingly funny. Like, if you're even, like, half funny, you can, like, be, like, blow their mind. It's because everyone's so stiff.
George Severis
Yeah, totally.
Peaches
I don't know, maybe I feel like maybe it's a fine line. Like, you just don't know, like, what's gonna, you know, be just weird for everybody else.
Sam Taggart
That's true. This is also the. The outfits thing when it comes to award shows, I find so exhausting. And even, like. Like, as we. Like, I've started to think more about outfits and like be like, okay, so now like even just like normal events, I need to like have a fun outfit.
Peaches
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Like, how do you make peace with that?
George Severis
Well, you always look. It's like you're always. This is a sort of like Rick Owens.
Sam Taggart
I know.
Peaches
Sure is.
Sam Taggart
Clocked.
George Severis
Clocked.
Peaches
Yeah. I don't know, because it's also like again with award show. It's like show as much skin as possible until the moment that it's gonna be talked about in a negative way. Not from my mind, but in that sort of straight, like.
George Severis
Yeah, totally.
Peaches
It's so strange. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
I think that you should like. I think the most punk rock thing you can do, you could do specifically me.
Peaches
Tell me what I can do.
George Severis
Yeah. Eight hours filtering is to wear just like the most conventional, like form fitting boob forward red dress. And then do your hair like, like a Hollywood starlet. Like just like blonde like that.
Sam Taggart
No, I think no one would bat.
Peaches
An eye and they'd be like, who's that?
Sam Taggart
Okay, Okay, I have a pitch. You wear like a life is good T shirt.
Peaches
Life is good.
Sam Taggart
And like long shorts.
George Severis
Yeah. Rainbow flip flops.
Peaches
That's it. That's it.
Sam Taggart
And maybe you're like walking a dog.
George Severis
That's a really good one.
Peaches
Or maybe like a few dogs. Like, I'm a dog walker. Yeah, yeah.
George Severis
And then you're on your phone the whole time.
Peaches
That's like playing solitaire and I have a bluetooth in my ear.
George Severis
And you're like, sal.
Peaches
Yeah, that's it. There we go.
Sam Taggart
But the whole time on the Bluetooth, it's not like a business call. You're like planning like, like, like which highway you're gonna take to get somewhere. Like, you're like, well, there's a lot of Traffic on the 401, but they.
Peaches
Were going to get out of there. Trying to get out of there.
George Severis
No lube. So rude. God, I love saying that.
Sam Taggart
That is catchy.
George Severis
I want to read it.
Peaches
Because it is rude if you are. Because, you know, it's like all about getting to a new level and becoming and having comfort and finding new ways. Not just like, let's get it done.
Sam Taggart
Totally.
Peaches
You know, and from one, one side to another. And it also, it relates to, you know, menopausal dryness of women. And also, you know, fisting is not, I mean, lube is not just for, you know, gay men who forgot their poppers to fist clogged.
George Severis
Boom. Do you feel like if we're living in a prolapse era, the antidote is lube it's like we have to enter a lube mindset.
Peaches
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Because there's so much friction and dryness.
George Severis
Exactly.
Peaches
In the world, you know, so it's like maybe if we had some, like, magical lube that could just, like, help us talk to each other or, like, interact with each other in a way that it didn't feel so.
Sam Taggart
Itchy.
George Severis
Exactly.
Peaches
Yeah.
George Severis
So to recap, Living in a prolapse world.
Peaches
Lube is the only Living in a prolapse world.
George Severis
I, I, I'm a lube girl in a prolapse world.
Sam Taggart
I do hate when there's lube on the floor. And then for like a month, you're like, this is a danger.
Peaches
It is a danger. That's why I also had all these ideas. Like, yeah, lube on stage.
George Severis
No, no, no.
Sam Taggart
That should. It sticks around.
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George Severis
Who in the music industry do you think is a fraud?
Peaches
Who's a fraud in the music industry?
George Severis
Yeah, like one of your peers.
Peaches
One of my peers.
Sam Taggart
So funny.
Peaches
I don't even consider myself in the music industry. Let's just say that really, I don't really.
George Severis
Because you live in Berlin.
Peaches
Yeah, well, I don't really feel like part of the industry. Like, I don't. I don't know, but I feel like.
George Severis
You'Re someone who, like, can dip in and out whenever you want because you're so.
Peaches
Then I don't have to be so that's what I mean. It's not like I'm not. I'm not controlled by your industry.
George Severis
Yeah. Oh, there's nothing better than saying that into a podcast microphone.
Sam Taggart
No, we've been called out for that before.
George Severis
Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Are you afraid of AI?
Peaches
I. I can't say that. I mean, yes, yes, of course. I think we're all afraid of what AI can do. I think that I do use AI. Like, I think we all use it. Like it's. There is uses for AI, and there are also creative uses, but there's also abuses. So it's really. It's confusing. Yeah, it's very confusing, but it's also detrimental. And it's also like AI can't get all the information because there's also all these libraries with amazing archival information that has not been read, that needs to be all read to AI. If you really want to have everything, it's going to run out of its own information in some way, which doesn't make it any. Any less scary.
George Severis
Totally.
Peaches
Yeah.
George Severis
Yeah. And then entire swaths of knowledge will.
Peaches
Be completely forgotten, and entire swaths of knowledge are not even being considered. And. And of course, people are pumping it with certain, you know, fascism ideologies. And that's really scary, too, because you Live in Berlin.
Sam Taggart
Does it feel shocking to come back, like, to come to America now?
Peaches
Well, it feels shocking to come and, you know, what happened this week happened last week with Venezuela. What happened this week with Renee.
Sam Taggart
Good.
Peaches
Is just. It's. It's. It's not shocking, but it's shocking. It's like. Yeah, it's actually. Or, you know. Yeah, it's because it's gonna be, like, martial law soon. Like, I, I. My tour is in February. February 20th. Let's see if we're still here.
George Severis
Well, that's a great note to end on.
Peaches
You can take that out if you want.
George Severis
No, no, no, no.
Sam Taggart
I mean, I do find it. It's so conf. I mean, your work, you know, is dealing with the issues of our times, but it is hard to, like, plan for the future. It's sort of like, what will be happening in a year. If I'm, like, planning something for a year from now, it's like, well, what. What will the world look like?
George Severis
That's.
Peaches
Yeah, I kind of feel like that also with writing an album, too. I don't, like, save up all these things because, like, things happen. You're right. They just happen, happen.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Peaches
And it's happening, but that's actually sort.
George Severis
Of not a silver lining. But I completely agree with you that, artistically, I feel like when you have an idea, you just have to express it now because it will either feel irrelevant or outdated or, like, too late if you do it in, like, six months. Like, there's a certain sense.
Peaches
Or just, like, stick riding instead of, like, speaking out.
George Severis
For real. Yes, completely. Yes.
Sam Taggart
So everyone speak out fast.
George Severis
Yes, everyone speak out now.
Peaches
I feel like I'm really. I'm. You know, I also want to mention, like, a band like the Lambrini Girls. I don't know if you know about them. They're like, pure punk. Amazing. Speaking off of fascism, like, in the audience starting their own mosh pits, but, like, really responsible. I feel like there's this new age of, like, punk and speaking out, but also taking care of everybody. Like, there's this. There's this, like. Like, care element that, you know, even with, like, the sex parties and things like that. But. But which. Which I think is very important.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah. No, I've always found that to be a nice part of that. Like, this sex culture in general is very, like, aftercare focused and consent focused and testing focused and all this stuff.
George Severis
Which I really appreciate without being quarantined.
Peaches
Without being corny in the way that, like, you can take it as far as you can take it and everybody can take it as far as they need to. And it's not really like the way you take it that far doesn't mean I have to.
George Severis
Final question for you. What's more annoying? Over intellectualizing sex or over intellectualizing nightlife?
Peaches
I would say over intellectualizing sex.
George Severis
Yeah. It has to be embodied.
Peaches
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
How to be in the moment.
Sam Taggart
Lube up.
Peaches
Lube up and get going.
George Severis
Lube up and get going.
Sam Taggart
Should we do our final.
George Severis
Let's do our final segment.
Sam Taggart
So our final segment is called shout outs and we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out where we shout out anything that we are enjoying. People, places, things, ideas. We will go first. They can be as brief as you want. George.
George Severis
I have one. I'm going to do the most like basic corporate shout out as a sort of commentary on the fact that we are with like an iconic punk rock musician.
Sam Taggart
Great.
George Severis
Okay, what's up, everyone? I want to give a shout out to Todd Snyder and specifically the Todd Snyder store at the Grove. I very last minute had to, you know, attend a black tie event. I don't own black tie. You know, despite the fact that I'm currently wearing this pretty conservative outfit, I normally think of myself as pretty altern. I needed to buy a tuxedo last minute and they were able to rush everything, tailor it to my tastes. It was affordable. And I said, you know what, Todd Snyder, you know what you're doing, bro? Shout out to the sales rep at Todd Snyder who said that we should. Didn't. Who said we should hang out but then didn't give me his contact info or tell me his name. I think you're rad. He had this whole story about his husband recently got laid off. So I want to send out my thoughts to him and hopefully lands on his feet and pretty much shout out to all gay guys that work in service anywhere, whether it's stores, restaurants, coffee shops. You are our bravest troops. And yeah, if Todd Snider hears this and they potentially want to give me like a gift card or something like that, I would be open to that.
Sam Taggart
I would also be open to that.
George Severis
And I'll donate some of it to a cause of everyone's choice, like new socks. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Okay. Woo.
George Severis
Thank you.
Sam Taggart
Okay, I. Since you went corporate, I actually am going to W and go even more corporate and insidious.
George Severis
Okay.
Sam Taggart
What's up, freaks, losers, and of course perverts around the globe. I want to give a huge shout out to the television program RuPaul's Drag Race. I. You know, as we all know, we've had fatigue from this TV show for roughly a decade now. And then this week it came back and we watched it at my house. And I said, you know what? This is fun. We've been through a cycle of, like, this is amazing. This is revolutionary. To, like, this is taking time off of my life. And to now I think we can be at a place where we are at peace with it and we are saying this is simply a part of our world and it's fun to watch. You don't need to freak out about it. You can just enjoy it. And I'm saying, you know, it's nice to have something to watch on a Friday night before hitting the eagle.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
So shout out to your girls.
George Severis
Drag Race.
Sam Taggart
I really appreciate just having something to watch.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Xoxo, Sam.
George Severis
Wow. And good luck to all the girls this season.
Sam Taggart
And good luck to all the girls.
George Severis
This season, especially ones we like.
Peaches
Good luck to all the drag queens this season.
George Severis
All the drag queens. That's right. Thank you.
Peaches
Okay, Peaches, I've already said it, but I'm just gonna shout out all the musicians who are making an effort to speak out and to integrate it in their show in a way that makes it powerful, that mobilizes people. And shout out to people who are speaking out and really saying something and keep doing it. It's so important. It's so important for us. I know we're all scared, and it's really. I'm closing my eyes because it's. It's so real, like, trying to scare us from saying anything. And it's so important. So shout out to all of you for saying something. Shout out for you for even thinking about it. That's it.
George Severis
And no, no, Lube so rude is out February 20th. February 20th is going on tour.
Peaches
It starts February 20th, North America. February 20th to end of March.
George Severis
Okay.
Peaches
Yeah.
George Severis
Amazing.
Sam Taggart
Well, thanks so much for doing the pod.
Peaches
Thank you.
George Severis
This was such a treat.
Peaches
Pleasure for me.
George Severis
We're so honored. Thank you.
Peaches
Thank you.
Sam Taggart
Okay, bye.
Peaches
Bye.
George Severis
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Released: February 17, 2026 | Hosts: George Civeris & Sam Taggart | Guest: Peaches
In this lively and irreverent episode, hosts George Civeris and Sam Taggart welcome iconic musician and performance artist, Peaches, to dissect the straight cultural behemoth that is Awards Shows. Together, they tackle the glitz, the artifice, the underlying straightness, and the camp potential of the Hollywood awards-industrial complex – all while discussing Peaches' new album No Lube So Rude, queerness in pop, body shame and celebration, and the balancing act of being funny and political in an increasingly absurd world.
The episode is full of sharp cultural criticism, filthy irreverence, and plenty of laughs as Peaches offers insights on creative rebellion, being a straight outsider, and the revolutionary potential of humor and dance.
Highlights:
Both playful and incisive, irreverently intellectual, sexually frank, and punk in spirit—very much in keeping with both the hosts and Peaches’ signature styles.
This episode is a perfect blend of queer critique, hilarious banter, and radical honesty about art, performance, shame, and the fight for joy in an absurd world. Even if you don't usually follow Peaches or awards shows, you'll find this a funny, thoughtful, and illuminating listen.
Peaches' new album No Lube So Rude is out Feb 20, 2026 and touring North America through March.