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Maggie Winters
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George Severis
Listen to High Key, a new weekly podcast. You better listen. Speaking of tanning, I was sunning my.
Sam Taggart
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George Severis
Supposed to, like, get sun not only in your mouth, but also in your other orifices. Wait, are you talking about you put your hole into the sun?
Sam Taggart
I did.
George Severis
That's crazy. Downward dog mooning the sun. I was gonna say. Is it cheeks open?
Sam Taggart
It's cheeks open all the way wide.
George Severis
Is it cheeks open?
Maggie Winters
Uh huh.
George Severis
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Sam Taggart
Podcast starts now. What is up, everyone around the globe? You are listening to Stradiolab. We are here still in New York City.
George Severis
Yay.
Maggie Winters
Yay.
George Severis
So you have been manic.
Sam Taggart
Pretty much start to finish. I have been manic.
George Severis
Say more.
Sam Taggart
Well, I'm in New York from la, and as everyone knows, I was ripped from my home in New York a year and a half ago against my.
George Severis
Will to go to la Via accepting a pretty prestigious job, actually.
Sam Taggart
Via accepting a job, which is so sad that we rely on them.
George Severis
Yes. Because sometimes they can actually end. They can end, or they can terminate your contract, or you can decide, I don't want to do this anymore because I sort of would like to travel. And then you quit, but then you stop making money.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Which is so complicated. But now I'm here, and I've been, like, bopping around and being. Every second is better than the second that came before it. And I don't know, like, at some point it will crash. Like, I think I'm literally gonna get hit by a car. No, because, like, it cannot keep going this well. And, like, it's genuinely not right.
George Severis
Well, you keep going from event to event and just having an amazing time. You've gone to upwards of 17 plays, I believe, in the five days you've been here.
Sam Taggart
I feel like I've been. I'm sort of doing it sort of Midwest style. Like, I'm a family from Ohio visiting, and I cannot stop going to see shows.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
I'm eating bagels every morning, going, oh, my God, what is this? What is this?
George Severis
We did. We walked the Brooklyn Promenade yesterday.
Sam Taggart
And I said, what the fuck is this? And you were like, I can see.
George Severis
The damn Statue of Liberty.
Sam Taggart
You were like, you've never walked the Promenade? And I was like, no.
George Severis
I also said, you know, we wanted to watch a movie so we can talk about it on the podcast. You said, I don't know if I want to spend two hours of my allotted time in New York in a movie theater, because I'm trying to actually make the most of my time here.
Sam Taggart
I've been soaking it up. I mean, Friday night, party. Party. Everyone I ever met was there. Everyone I've ever met was there.
George Severis
Was Friday night Charlie's.
Sam Taggart
Friday night was Charlie's. Oh, My God, intellectuals. Just. Just shooting the shit.
George Severis
Did you meet all the new gays?
Sam Taggart
I met many of the new gays to the point where they're not even new anymore. They're only new to me.
George Severis
Well, that's.
Sam Taggart
That was crazy.
George Severis
I. You've been gone for two years. I would say a new gay is new for nine months.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. So there's like, almost a second round.
George Severis
You've. I would even say you were on a third round.
Sam Taggart
Fuck.
George Severis
Because I'm now meeting them, some of these boys, and they're. I would say 12.
Sam Taggart
I mean, I will say on. At Julio's show on Wednesday, like, everyone was saying hi to this one gay guy and being like, oh, my God, so good to see you again.
George Severis
Oh, yeah.
Sam Taggart
And they were like, you guys don't know each other. And I was like, okay. No one knew him before.
George Severis
Okay. You know what's interesting? They did.
Sam Taggart
I would say, this is an old gay. This is a new gay. And you're like, no, he's an old gay.
George Severis
I would say they knew him for a year while you were still here, and you just hadn't bumped into him yet. But now, suddenly, two more years have passed, and it's, like, unacceptable that you don't know him.
Sam Taggart
So that was crazy. And then, like, Saturday. Yeah, Saturday, I went to Morgan's show.
George Severis
Shout Out. Shout out. Literally. Divine. I'm so glad you went, because I. You know, I didn't want to push you to go if you had limited time, but I was like, I know you'll like it.
Sam Taggart
I fucking loved it. And in my feeling of being like, I miss New York. I miss New York. And it's about, like, history of gay New York comedian. I was like, yes.
George Severis
Morgan Basakis show is about a gay comedian from the 90s. Yeah, go ahead.
Sam Taggart
And so I left the theater being like, holy shit.
George Severis
Like, I'm part of this lineage.
Sam Taggart
I'm a part of this lineage.
George Severis
Cut to. Not anymore.
Sam Taggart
Cut to. Cut to. Well, yes, I can come back.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
But I was. It was really freaky. And then I was, like, truly manic. Like, I was like, I don't know what to do with this energy.
George Severis
And then, of course, yesterday, I hosted.
Sam Taggart
A brunch which was divine, despite the fact that.
George Severis
And I'm gonna actually call them out. Black seed bagels got my order so wrong. We got literally half the number of bagels I ordered and one third of the amount of lox. There was exactly one bagel per person.
Sam Taggart
Which, to me, I was like, no big deal.
George Severis
It was a Big deal. And also, in today's crazy world, there is quite literally no way to get in touch with them. So I called Seamless. I called them. I called Black Seed Bagels, and at some point they were like, if for a current order, press 3. And I was like, great, that means I'll be taken to someone since it's a current order. So I press 3, and they texted me a form to fill out. I said, I'm sorry, we're talking. I have people coming over in 10 minutes and you're gonna give me a form. And then of course, I'm filling out the form, being like, I have people coming over in 10 minutes. Call me immediately as soon as you see. I haven't heard back since it's been two days.
Sam Taggart
Well, and I said this yesterday. You were like, doing a character piece the whole time. It was like immersive theater. George was literally like, There was one point where you just stood up. Suddenly you're like, I forgot about the cake in the oven. And we were like, who is this?
George Severis
It's actually so crazy. Sorry. We will bring our guest in a second. It's crazy because in my mind, as I told you yesterday, I was doing such a good job of not doing that character, because I know that my instinct would be to do that character and to be like, oh, well, this is a disaster. Oh, oh, my God, the other guest is here. Oh, so your husband didn't come Trouble inherit, like, and I actually thought I was doing such a good job of hiding that energy. And then every single person was like, so you're being crazy right now.
Sam Taggart
It was like, well, it was like a very, you know, not to toot our own horns, but a very low maintenance crowd.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
And same for Max, of course.
George Severis
Well, but. Well, of course.
Sam Taggart
Shout out, Max Witter.
George Severis
Shout out, Max Witter. I mean, I agree, but you know, it. And the reason I wanted to host this brunch. And again, we will bring you in. The reason I wanted to host this brunch is because I've been like. I get in my own head about having people over and I'm like, I have to make a perfect three course meal. I have to, like, make a perfect batch cocktail and then have dessert. And then the lighting be just right. And I really want to be more chill. Just, like, come over and I'll order pizza. Come over and we'll watch the Oscars. And, like, I'll literally make frozen pigs and blankets from Trader Joe's. I don't. And so I'm trying to actually Follow through on that. So I was like, great, I will get bagels. I won't cook. I won't make a frittata. I will get bagels. And the fact that that didn't work out really bummed me out. I was like, so. So I'm. I'm doing the. I'm doing the simple thing. I'm challenging myself to just order bagels. And then black seed bagels just has someone, like, on ayahuasca in the kitchen being like, I don't know, give them six.
Sam Taggart
And to be fair, I am actually glad we're calling out black seed bagels.
George Severis
No. Because they are the man.
Sam Taggart
They've been an enemy of mine for many, many years.
George Severis
Thank you.
Sam Taggart
I have left New York and I've forgiven anyone who ever wronged me here. But black seed bagels, as soon as you men yesterday, I almost went.
George Severis
I know.
Sam Taggart
Like, I was like, you ordered from where?
George Severis
No, and. And. And by the way, I know that. And I did. I didn't order it. That from there unknowingly being like, oh, my God, I love black seed bagels. They just. They have this thing that's like a brunch special, and it's like, sort of makes sense to order. But guess what? The bagels were not that good. And I. And I. It's never again. Black seed bagels. Go back to 2012 where you came from, and stay there.
Sam Taggart
And stay there. Is black seed bagels like. Like Blank Street Coffee where it's like VC funded and evil or something?
George Severis
That I don't know. I'm sure at this point it is. When it first opened, I remember being, like, excited about their sandwiches. They would have, like, really good breakfast sandwiches and stuff. And I remember, you know, of course, black seed bagels invented nolita. Oh, that's where the first one was. And I said, okay, so this is Nolita. Now this, I love.
Sam Taggart
Nolita. That really rolls off the tongue nose.
George Severis
It was like the line was always like, models.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, okay. I can see why that would have an impact.
George Severis
Guess what? Those models, you know, they were models in 2012. Guess what? They are now school teachers. The black seed bagels era is over.
Sam Taggart
Not the model to school teacher model teacher pipeline.
George Severis
And you know, they're illiterate. They're teaching at some like, oh, cra Charter school where they just hire people out of modeling school.
Sam Taggart
It's not right. It's not right. What's happening for education system.
George Severis
No, I'm actually desperate. I wish we were on a different podcast so I could do an I don't think so, honey, about black seed bagels, because I'm. It is over.
Sam Taggart
It's over. But the brunch special. I mean, I also want to say that.
George Severis
Wait, we need to bring. Okay, no, but go ahead.
Sam Taggart
Well, I don't like locks, but I want to like locs. And I'm so glad you had them so I could experience. Experiment with them. Well, I don't like them.
George Severis
No, that's.
Sam Taggart
But if I have them, like, maybe seven more times, I think I could create a memory and really be like, no, that reminds me of that time. And I'll like.
George Severis
Well, this is the other thing that was making me be a little housewife is you walked in and you were like, you know, I don't like locks, but I'm excited to try it. And I, of course, remembered you had told me that before. I just. I had no memory of that. And keep in mind, I'm hosting. Hosting a brunch in honor of Sam visiting, and I get locks.
Sam Taggart
The one thing he doesn't like. See, this is what I mean. The immersive character. Like, he was doing it the whole.
George Severis
Please welcome Maggie Winters.
Maggie Winters
I actually don't want to be in the pod today because I'm just watching you guys is, like, such a dream come true.
Sam Taggart
Wait, Maggie, are you gonna tell?
George Severis
We're so happy. Yeah. Wait, you actually should get in and do a.
Sam Taggart
What's the TV show where they, like, kitchen. Kitchen Nightmares or whatever.
George Severis
You need to go there and, like, get. They're like. They need to get their act in order.
Sam Taggart
You say, chop, chop.
Maggie Winters
Get off. Ayahuasca.
Sam Taggart
Now, literally, step one, drop the ayahuasca.
George Severis
By the way, you know, my favorite thing is to accuse people of being on ayahuasca.
Maggie Winters
That's a joke.
Sam Taggart
And it's because.
George Severis
Can I tell you where it's from? In the Ryan Murphy show, Scream Queens, at some point, Jamie Lee Curtis has an amazing delivery of Are you on ayahuasca? I'm the only person for whom that's, like, canon. I say it to myself all the time, and I'm obsessed with if someone, like, I don't know, post something stupid, being like, are you on ayahuasca?
Maggie Winters
Yeah, that's Jean. Yes. Yes. Scream Queens.
George Severis
No. Literally one of the best shows ever.
Maggie Winters
A lot of gifts.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
So this is interesting. Ryan Murphy has so many shows.
George Severis
Have you even heard of Scream Queens?
Sam Taggart
I remember seeing posters for it. Well, Ariana Grande was in, but, like, really briefly, right?
George Severis
Yeah. She got killed.
Sam Taggart
She got killed.
George Severis
Rest in peace, R. And P. Rest in peach.
Sam Taggart
Rest in peach.
George Severis
Rest in peaches are, like, inside joke.
Maggie Winters
Rest in peach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I can be in on it.
George Severis
Too, but basically where it comes from is I accidentally said rest in peach one time.
Sam Taggart
But I remember that one being like. It came and went so quickly that I was like, was that like a tax break or did people watch it?
Maggie Winters
So for me, you watched it?
George Severis
Yeah, for me, it did not come and go.
Maggie Winters
No, I was like, dedicated.
Sam Taggart
Awesome.
George Severis
Senorita awesome.
Maggie Winters
She gets a pumpkin spice, and she's like, I want it freezing. And then she's like, I'm. You don't even know what I'm talking about.
George Severis
Okay, no, no, but we actually have to describe this.
Maggie Winters
Yes, we do.
George Severis
Go ahead.
Maggie Winters
There's a barista. Hot barista.
George Severis
And kind of hot male barista.
Maggie Winters
Quirky girl comes in. She's wearing. She's wearing paperboy hat.
George Severis
Yes.
Maggie Winters
She's like. He's like, what do you want? Obviously? And she's like, I want a pumpkin spice latte. Freezing cold. And then he's like, okay. And then she's like, just kidding. Like, I'm not one of those girls, Right?
George Severis
Yeah, that's it.
Sam Taggart
I think I've seen this clip on, like, Twitter.
George Severis
And then he's like, name for that. And she goes, senorita awesome.
Maggie Winters
And he's like, turned on. He's like, yes.
Sam Taggart
But also, every time people share that.
George Severis
Clip, I get upset because I'm like, it's satire.
Maggie Winters
It's satire.
George Severis
It's satire.
Sam Taggart
Like, they know satirizing.
George Severis
Just, like, the tone. It's like a campy tone of the show. It's not like they think it's good writing for her to say she's senorita awesome.
Sam Taggart
Like, yeah.
George Severis
And I. I get. I. Because I'm like, oh, so you think you're better than this show?
Maggie Winters
You're not.
George Severis
You're not. You wish you could write Senorita Awesome.
Maggie Winters
We see the clips and you're in the comments.
George Severis
Yeah, I'm literally. Actually.
Maggie Winters
This is satire.
George Severis
Literally.
Maggie Winters
I don't like it.
George Severis
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
And you're like, oh, my God. You need to go back and watch it.
George Severis
You know that show for Halloween?
Sam Taggart
I watched it.
George Severis
That show gave us Glen Powell, by the way.
Sam Taggart
What?
George Severis
He was the frat bro in that show.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
That's scary, too.
George Severis
And him and Nick Jonas had, like, a bromance.
Sam Taggart
What?
George Severis
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
And you're sitting here just like.
George Severis
This is. We're doing the cerulean monologue at you. Oh, so you think. You think you discovered Glen Powell.
Maggie Winters
Wow.
George Severis
And it was Yves Saint Laurent, wasn't it? Who put Glen Powell in scream queens?
Sam Taggart
Unbelievable. I think it's sometimes so sad that you can't just have, like, a career where you're prestigious the whole way through.
George Severis
Wait, I love that. Actually.
Maggie Winters
I wish.
George Severis
I wish you want to have a.
Sam Taggart
I would love to just be prestigious the whole way through.
Maggie Winters
Like, you were never in anything that.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, like, no, I didn't do that Geico commercial.
George Severis
Oh, well, that's different.
Sam Taggart
Like. Or like. Like, yeah, I wasn't in, like, I don't know, the new Degrassi or something. Like, as, like, stupid teacher.
George Severis
But don't you love that?
Maggie Winters
But I would love to book stupid teacher in the new Degrassi.
George Severis
Oh, my God. Same. I'll be. I'll get stupid.
Maggie Winters
I'll be. I'll be the model.
George Severis
Model turned teacher.
Sam Taggart
Model teacher.
Maggie Winters
Pop play. One time a season eight contestant of America's Next Top Model. I met her and I was like, oh. She's like, I'm a model. And I was like, oh, awesome. I was like, I wish I was a model. And she looks me in my eyes and goes, there's plus size modeling.
George Severis
First.
Maggie Winters
And I said, clocked, bitch. I was so shaken. I was like, oh, my God. She walked away. She's like, there's plus size modeling. And I was like, you kind of still called me beautiful. But, like, you did say, like, yeah, you'll never be normal. Like, it was the craziest moment of my life.
Sam Taggart
Well, also, she, like, called you stupid.
George Severis
Well, I would say that's the more offensive part. It's like, you've never heard of baby.
Sam Taggart
You've never heard of this.
George Severis
So you're just like, sitting at home being like, I wish I was a model, but have never looked into, like.
Maggie Winters
Where do you think? Torrid. Like, they need people showing off their skulls. You guys know what torrid is?
George Severis
No.
Sam Taggart
I'm assuming a plus size clothing line.
Maggie Winters
Is what, like, the only option I had in high school. And like, you walk in, everything would be, like, kind of cute. And you'd be like, oh, this is actually a cute dress. Turn around. Skull and crossbones in diamonds.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. That's classic all the time.
Maggie Winters
You're like, hello. Tore it. I mean, they were there for me when I needed them, but now it's like. Like, they can rot.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
My mom once bought a jacket of some sort that had, like, a diamond skull and crossbows. And my mom, if. I mean, Sam has met her, she's. That's not her Style. No, but it's like, sometimes brands are able to convince, you know, women over 60 that certain things are normal that aren't, and they. And they're, like, actually kind of anxious about being on top of trends and stuff, and suddenly they'll show up in something. You're like, oh.
Sam Taggart
Oh, my mom goes full skull on the crossbones. Yeah, she. But it does kind of match her personality.
Maggie Winters
Okay.
Sam Taggart
But it is like. It's like, I'm like, wow, you're bold. Like, go off.
Maggie Winters
You're young. You're. You're over 60, but you're young.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. And I love that I'm over 60. I don't know if you guys know.
George Severis
You look amazing.
Sam Taggart
Oh, you look amazing. You know, there's actually old models.
Maggie Winters
There's fat and old models. You should get into it. Like, think about it.
George Severis
Oh, my God. What do you think about models?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I've been waiting for someone to ask me this for years.
George Severis
Like, no, because here's what I mean by this. They.
Sam Taggart
Welcome to New York.
George Severis
Yeah. First of all, welcome to New York.
Maggie Winters
They're everywhere. Fashion Week.
George Severis
Yeah, tell me about it.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God.
Sam Taggart
I just call it Pre Teacher Week.
George Severis
I'm just going to all the shows, and I'm like, y', all, I'll be in a classroom soon.
Sam Taggart
You look pretty now, sweetheart. You won't look so pretty standing in front of the chalkboard.
Maggie Winters
And the thing is, they will. They'll look amazing.
Sam Taggart
They'll look amazing.
Maggie Winters
You won't know what they're talking about, but you'll love it.
Sam Taggart
Little pencil skirt whipping the thing.
Maggie Winters
Do the math.
George Severis
She's like a poor two plus two.
Maggie Winters
Is what she's like, I don't know. I can't figure it out.
Sam Taggart
I'm, like, trying to ask.
George Severis
Okay. The reason I'm asking is because I feel like there's this tendency to interpret the idea of a model so literally, as though they are a model of womanhood and everyone is looking at them and feeling insecure because they are a model.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
Is that real? Or do they just have a job, which is walking a Runway? Like, is the average person.
Sam Taggart
You're freaking me out.
George Severis
More jealous of a professional model or just, like, the hot girl at work? Like, is the average person waking up being like, why don't I look like Gisele Bunchkin?
Maggie Winters
No, I think that that's, like. And I got distracted by the flamingos pretty quickly.
George Severis
Well, focus.
Maggie Winters
They're modeling, kind of.
Sam Taggart
That's true.
George Severis
Well, they are the original models.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God. I feel like I don't. Yeah, I think it's like, that's where. Like, that's the top where it starts. Right. Like, this is beauty.
Sam Taggart
Oh.
George Severis
And then it trickles down.
Maggie Winters
Economics.
George Severis
Yes. No, it's actually a Reaganite sort of. Models are very Reagan because they trickle down.
Sam Taggart
I do think the model thing, it's not like, oh, they're perfect, but it's sort of like you just know when clothes will only look good on them.
George Severis
Totally.
Sam Taggart
That's a real thing.
Maggie Winters
Especially during New York fashion. During New York Fashion Week, some of these clothes. I'm going, who now? Who? Yeah, right up beside someone with apps like, stick thin.
Sam Taggart
Fashion.
Maggie Winters
Say it.
George Severis
Say it.
Sam Taggart
Fashion is lost.
George Severis
Okay.
Sam Taggart
There's something about. I've been. I've been noticing the difference between, like, a fashion. Sort of your Mugatu theories, where, like, some gay guys go Mugatu when they reach their 30s, and they're like. They're lost to, like, reality because they're trying too hard to be fashion.
Maggie Winters
Yes.
Sam Taggart
But I keep seeing, like, people in, like. Like, you know, skin tight, like, sheer, big, big pants, and they almost look like a ninja. And you're sort of like, okay, this. Like, you're going to the grocery store. This isn't like, there's not really a time and place to be fashion in that, like, wild sense for a.
George Severis
For an. For a person that isn't literally going to like, fashion shows.
Sam Taggart
Like, the only place is literally the Runway.
George Severis
I see.
Sam Taggart
As soon as it's not the Runway, I'm sort of like, what are we doing here?
George Severis
So I actually.
Maggie Winters
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
George Severis
But I would. My only counterpoint would be. I actually do think if you're walking around New York City, like, literally in Nolita, it's fun when you look like you're walking around.
Maggie Winters
Specifically New York City.
Sam Taggart
Specifically New York City. Yeah. No, that's true.
Maggie Winters
And I'm wondering, like, where is Nolita? Like, and I'm kind of.
George Severis
So look up black seed bagels. Look at black seed bagels. And then Nolita flagship. Nolita flagship.
Maggie Winters
Is this Manhattan?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
Yeah, it's Manhattan.
Maggie Winters
Okay. I'm learning a lot. Yeah. And everyone's like, where do you live? And I'm like, you know, I don't know, and I don't know where you live, and I don't really care for you to tell me.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maggie Winters
And you're just here visiting.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I'm here for the week.
Maggie Winters
I just remember that I. We worked together on your show.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
And we wrote the jokes Together.
Sam Taggart
It was so fun.
Maggie Winters
And I won. Sorry.
George Severis
You did?
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
Congratulations.
Maggie Winters
And they big, huge bear, and they said, do you want to take this home? I said, no.
George Severis
Like a stuffed bear.
Sam Taggart
Oh, yeah. We would do, like, joke presents, like joke prizes.
Maggie Winters
You can take it. And I was like, I won't be taking this. And then someone was. You can vacuum seal it and put it on the plane. I said, that is the craziest thing you've ever said.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, but you actually.
Maggie Winters
Taylor Komlman said, no, I'm sorry.
Sam Taggart
You actually had, like, a real one, like, so many times. It was like, wet piece of paper.
Maggie Winters
Oh, okay.
Sam Taggart
You know.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
So yours was kind of real. So that was different twist.
Maggie Winters
That was different twist.
George Severis
Did you enjoy, like, being on a comedic game show and you can be honest?
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I won't. I won't be offended in any direction.
Maggie Winters
I'm like, the guy I worked with. No, I actually. I did. I think it was, like, easy and fun and just, like, goofy.
George Severis
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I was a little nervous at first. Like, I got. But then, like, when I was with those boys who I both love, Jack and Vinny.
Sam Taggart
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maggie Winters
They're just goofing.
George Severis
Jack who?
Sam Taggart
Wait, who?
Maggie Winters
Martin.
Sam Taggart
Oh, right.
Maggie Winters
He's in, like, he's more actor. Shout out to Jack. Martin. Well, I love Vinnie, and we love Vinny.
Sam Taggart
Vinny's to die.
George Severis
Vinny's just like.
Maggie Winters
It's kind of, like, too much with Vinny. I'm like, just like, pick a lane, you know, It's.
George Severis
Yeah, I'm like, the. The perfect little cutie results came in. And it's positive.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, it's positive. And, like, it's like, you're infecting everybody.
George Severis
Yeah, no, it's actually. You need to stay.
Maggie Winters
Stay at home and mask.
George Severis
Stay at home and mask.
Maggie Winters
I hit the mic only.
Sam Taggart
Are you. Do you. Are you enjoying being in New York?
Maggie Winters
I am. I'm. I'm exhausted.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I've been here for two weeks. I'm like, when will it end?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
So I have, you know, a month and a half.
George Severis
What are you doing? What. How are you filling your days?
Maggie Winters
I'm filling my days with. When is this coming out?
Sam Taggart
In three weeks.
Maggie Winters
Well, I'm also, I think I can say, starting my own podcast, which maybe I can't get in the details, but, you know, we'll get into it later.
George Severis
And it's produced by Black Seed Bagels, and it's.
Maggie Winters
And it's. It's called Kitchen Nightmares with Maggie Winners for Black Seed Bagels.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. The whole Season is about black.
George Severis
See, you're tracking, like, your journey of, like, kind of fixing what's going on over there. You're like, I'm taking away the ayahuasca.
Maggie Winters
I'm taking with ayahuasca, time to figure.
George Severis
Out what a whole wheat bagel is. Because it's not what was served to me last night.
Maggie Winters
You ordered whole wheat bagels.
George Severis
This is. Well, I ordered a mix, okay. And one of the five things I ordered was whole wheat. But then, famously, they didn't bring most of what I ordered, but one of the things they did remember was the two whole wheat bagels. So then suddenly, a third of what we had in store.
Maggie Winters
I don't know why a whole wheat bagel. I'm triggered. That's something my dad would buy. And then you'd be like, I didn't get cream cheese. Like, we're having butter. And I'd be like, no, I want an onion bagel with cream cheese anyway.
George Severis
Onion.
Sam Taggart
Really?
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
Oh, that's fascinating. What is your order?
Sam Taggart
I do an everything bagel usually. Wait, there was something I wanted to say that I remember now.
Maggie Winters
Say it.
Sam Taggart
Thank you for.
George Severis
Also. Yeah. You'll tell us what you've been doing in New York, but not right now.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, not right now.
Maggie Winters
I mean.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, we'll reveal soon.
Maggie Winters
I'll think about what I've been doing.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. After the break, we're gonna hear about what.
George Severis
Make it good. Make it good.
Sam Taggart
So, okay, here's a. I sometimes, like, actively not being listened to about my wants.
George Severis
Say more.
Sam Taggart
This is genius, because I'm like, I don't want to be, like, solidified in what my tastes are. I want someone to be like. Actually, we only have this, and you have to try it.
George Severis
Can I tell you something? What you're describing is the issue with algorithmic recommendations. Literally.
Sam Taggart
You're so right. You're so right.
George Severis
Like, we need to actually go into the video store. Oh, they don't have what we want. But then we go into, like, similar things. We go into the aisle that has. Let's say we're horror fans. It has the horror genre. We're like, oh, I haven't heard of this sort of, like, lesser known John Carpenter movie. And yeah, I'll get a little pack of expired caramel corn.
Maggie Winters
Sure. I'm gonna eat it.
George Severis
Yeah, okay. Sorry, I'm not ordering it on Amazon. It's here in an hour and a half. And someone dies while delivering it. But at least I get to interact with a stoned teen at the register.
Sam Taggart
The reason why the black seed bagels people are doing ayahuasca is because they should be working at Blockbuster, and the Blockbusters have closed.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God. I'm kind of teaching my nephew this because he's like, I want to watch Paw Patrol. And I go, what if we watch something else? And he kind of was like, what the hell are you talking about? Yeah, and then I put on something else. He's throwing a fit for 20 minutes. Then he starts watching the thing I put on Ponyo, and he's going, I'm actually loving this.
George Severis
Oh, you are literally a teacher.
Maggie Winters
I'm trying. I'm like.
George Severis
And Ponyo is the perfect thing to show a child because it's like, tricking them into liking quality.
Sam Taggart
Oh, sure, sure.
George Severis
You know what I mean.
Maggie Winters
Exactly.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
Because it's not even Spirited Away. It's like you're starting basic, like, cutie.
Maggie Winters
Yes.
George Severis
Were underwater.
Maggie Winters
Cutie. Were underwater. Tina Fey. Tina Fey, Ultimately. Yeah. There's also some, like, random man in it. I feel like it's like Matt Damon or something.
George Severis
It's. Yeah.
Maggie Winters
And you're like, what is he doing here?
George Severis
No, literally.
Maggie Winters
And my nephew's going, what is Matt Damon doing here? Like, how do you know who.
George Severis
And he's like, matt Damon. He has a crazy accent.
Sam Taggart
I like how he talks.
George Severis
He has a really offensive accent, actually.
Maggie Winters
No, but I get what you're saying, and I miss going. We had a place called Village Videos. Video. I'm like.
George Severis
I'm, like, relaxed. Just hearing that.
Maggie Winters
Walk into Village Video. We're obviously, like. We're peeking over at the porn section. We're going, oh, my God, that's crazy. Over there. Seeing whose dad is in there. And we're picking out. Yeah, I'm like. I'm picking based on cover. I'm judging a book by its cover.
Sam Taggart
This fully.
George Severis
You know how there's some covers. Here's one for me. Do you know the COVID of House of Yes With Parker Posey?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
That's, like, just a classic cover. I see. Can you describe it to me? Yes. She's dressed as Jackie O. The pink, you know, hat, whatever, suit. And then she's turned around and holding a gun behind her back and then looking behind her.
Maggie Winters
Okay, do I need to watch this movie?
George Severis
It's really good, actually.
Maggie Winters
I'm on a movie journey this year because I realized I haven't watched movies because everyone would be like, oh, you watched House of Yes. And I'm like, what the hell?
George Severis
Well, I will say sometimes when you post some of these, it'll be like the Godfather and you'll be like, recommended by Jason. And I'm like, okay, well, but you knew about that, right?
Maggie Winters
Yeah, but like, well, probably not. Not reading the.
Sam Taggart
Not knowing the plus models exist allegations.
Maggie Winters
No, there's some. Like, that's what I'm saying is like, there's movies that people are like, well, obviously, like you've seen it.
George Severis
I'm like, no, wait, so tell me more about this because my husband did not grow up in a movie watching family.
Maggie Winters
Wait, what? I'm out of here.
Sam Taggart
Can I say saying husband, this trip in particular has felt the weirdest of all.
George Severis
Well, especially when we're together because we were both saying it.
Sam Taggart
It's. It feels like we're like. I feel sometimes like I'm punishing people.
George Severis
No, it's crazy.
Maggie Winters
People get married in the same year.
George Severis
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Cut the cameras. Dead ass.
George Severis
But. But whereas I did grow up in a movie watching. We would like go to the movies on Christmas.
Maggie Winters
I gotta be. So you have to be like, honest. Like my parents, my brothers, all movie people.
George Severis
Really?
Maggie Winters
My brother is like a major movie person. I think maybe I was like, I'm not going to be part of your culture.
Sam Taggart
What were you doing instead?
Maggie Winters
I was watching the same, like I was watching Little Mermaid over and over and over.
Sam Taggart
So you're trying to prevent your nephew from your same fate?
Maggie Winters
Yeah, or maybe when it was like when I got older, I just like, I don't know. I don't know why I got lost in the mix, but my sister in law, my brother, they mentioned movies in a way that like, I'm like, what?
George Severis
So. And you're a comedian. Of course.
Maggie Winters
Some people would say yes. Some people would say hard. No.
George Severis
But it's like, are there. It's like, are you a huge, like Will Ferrell fan? Like, are there comedies?
Maggie Winters
Adam Sandler, Chris Farley, girl.
George Severis
Got it.
Maggie Winters
Watching those movies.
George Severis
So that's your canon?
Maggie Winters
That was my canon, yeah. But I also like, my favorite movie growing up was that thing you do. I think I was kind of going back and now and then. You know that one one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam Taggart
That's like Rosie o'.
George Severis
Donnell.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
For the girls.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Maggie Winters
So there was movies, but then I just feel like, yeah, I missed like a big chunk. I just watched.
Sam Taggart
I'm similar. I missed.
Maggie Winters
You're similar.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I'll send you the list I got, please. Because some of them you're going, what?
Sam Taggart
I'm saying, who's the Godfather and what does he have to do with me?
Maggie Winters
It was Goodfellas. I think that's the one you're thinking of.
George Severis
Yeah, that's probably the one.
Maggie Winters
We loved it deeply.
George Severis
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
And then I just went to. Yeah, I'm gonna say at Luke Holly Pizza. I waited two hours to get in. And the woman who served us ultimately called the server.
Sam Taggart
She was serving.
Maggie Winters
I was like, she was serving. She was the funniest person. She's like, I'm from Staten Island. She's going for that. And I'm like, so are you Italian? She goes, I'm 100% Irish. And my family's. Obviously. We're like, we're dying. We need to come to our St. Patrick's Day party. She's like, give me your Instagram like crazy. And then she's talking about. Randomly talking about Goodfellas. And I was like, I just watched that. And she was like, she. She goes, what? You just watched it? I was like, yeah, sorry. Like, and then I think, she's not gonna come to the party now.
Sam Taggart
Oh, that's tough, because you're being punished for your honesty.
Maggie Winters
I know.
Sam Taggart
Like, if you had lied, I mean, like, of course I'd seen it before. She'd be at the party.
Maggie Winters
She'd be at the party.
George Severis
One of the most isolating experiences is watching some. Something that's a classic.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
And wanting to talk to people, being like, like, did you know it's so good? And everyone looks at you like, you're an idiot.
Maggie Winters
Yes. Oh, my God. Before Sunset. Yes.
Sam Taggart
I did that. Like, wait, last year.
Maggie Winters
What's the first one?
George Severis
I think Before Sunset is the first one.
Maggie Winters
And I. So I haven't watched the second one yet. Even though everyone says Before Sunrise, the one I watched. And then Before Sunset's the second one.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maggie Winters
So Before Sunrise, I was like, this movie changed my life. And everyone's kind of like, yeah, like.
George Severis
Yeah, same when I was 14.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. But I was like, stupid, stupid. Like, everyone was looking at me stupid. And I'm, like, waiting to watch the second one. Second. I can remember it, basically. But, yeah, everyone was DMing me, like, get a grip. Grow up.
George Severis
I know.
Sam Taggart
No, that messed me up when I watched those, and no one else could talk to me about it.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God.
George Severis
Especially because people are like, yeah, it's amazing, but they haven't seen it recently, so you can't quote it to them. They're like, yeah, I sort of remember them being on a train.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, it's incredible. I honestly kind of feel this way about Morgan's show.
George Severis
Yeah. Cause it's now over. Sam went closing night.
Sam Taggart
I went closing night. And honestly, the next day at your brunch, I kept trying to be like, so I saw Morgan's show, and everyone's like, yeah, we saw it, like, two weeks ago, actually. Or we didn't see it at all.
George Severis
And so many people were like, literally three people at this brunch, which, by the way, had six people total, were like, yeah, I've been saying, I want to see it. And I just never went. And I'm like, you gotta make some decisions here.
Maggie Winters
You have to make. If you want to see something, see it.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I actually prefer you to be like, I didn't actually want to see it, so I didn't see it. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
That's crazy.
George Severis
I.
Sam Taggart
You know, there's something about being here for one week where you're like, I'm. I'm going to try to do everything.
Maggie Winters
Similarly, two months, I'm like, I have to fill my time to. I have to fill my cup to the branch.
George Severis
So back to what you're doing in New York, Lucali. Are you. Are you trying to do a mix of, like, food culture, friends, or is there something specific where you're like, this is what I'm here for.
Maggie Winters
I'm here. I want to do a lot of standup.
George Severis
Okay.
Maggie Winters
In New York, I did a show at the bellhouse. I did seven minutes, famously, at the bell house. Seven minutes. It was like, I was like, damn, I haven't done that in forever. Which is, like, such a nice, refreshing moment to be like, seven minutes. I'll walk out. I'll walk out and I'll walk back.
George Severis
Literally seven minutes. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, clearing my throat. And then it's.
Sam Taggart
What show was that?
Maggie Winters
Missy and Marty show.
Sam Taggart
Okay.
Maggie Winters
It was so cute. Fun. Completely, girl. Yeah, it was so fun. But afterwards, there were so many people that were like, and who are you?
George Severis
Do.
Maggie Winters
I loved it. And I was like, okay, so I work to do. Like, people are going, who the hell are you?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Which is cool because you're like, they liked it because they could have been like, who the hell are you? Get out of here. Yeah, they're more like, let me know more. So I was like, I have to do a lot of stand up, but I also need to watch a lot of shows. I want to take it in.
George Severis
Oh, go to stand up shows.
Maggie Winters
Go to stand up shows. Go to any other. Any shows.
George Severis
Okay.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Do you have a show?
George Severis
Have you gone to Josh's? Show.
Maggie Winters
I got a ticket.
George Severis
Nice.
Maggie Winters
I wanted to see it, so I'm going to see it.
George Severis
Wow. And. And that's why you'll get ahead and a lot of our friends won't.
Maggie Winters
I know. And I also think we're not gonna wait for some who show.
Sam Taggart
Julio's show. Julio Torres.
Maggie Winters
Even though there was a show. Okay.
George Severis
Oh, yes. He. It just started.
Maggie Winters
I'm gonna go, where is it?
George Severis
It is at. It's at.
Maggie Winters
I'm like, how much space?
George Severis
Nyc.
Sam Taggart
Nyc.
George Severis
I believe it's affordable.
Maggie Winters
That's fine. I'm.
Sam Taggart
But we're both millionaires, by the way.
George Severis
Yeah, we're both millionaires. I haven't actually looked at a price in years.
Maggie Winters
No, same. I'm. I. Yeah.
George Severis
Even when I see a price, I. I cover it because I'm like, that's gauche.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, that's good. I'm actually. I'll pay more than whatever it's tacky for. Can I double that price? The way New York City. I'm like, everything's $10 million. And that's fine for me, personally.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, no, I prefer it.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, I prefer it that way because.
Sam Taggart
It'S like, I feel like I'm giving.
Maggie Winters
Back to the community I'm investing.
Sam Taggart
You know what's sick and twisted?
Maggie Winters
Please.
Sam Taggart
This is. This is. We're being. This is horrible to say on a microphone. I'm like, la is more expensive.
George Severis
I kind of agree.
Sam Taggart
And so being here, I'm like, oh, thank God, affordability's back. No, no.
George Severis
I. I still am shocked by. Is in New York. And because Matthew grew up in New York, he just doesn't see it as much. And sometimes I'm like. I'm like, okay, we will ultimately pay for whatever this is, but I do need you to be shocked by it, like, because I'm always like. And he's like, yeah, what did you expect? This is where we live. And I'm like, yeah, but can you at least be, like, a little taken aback by it?
Sam Taggart
Give us the show.
George Severis
He's like, I don't know anything different. Like, I grew up.
Maggie Winters
This is my life overpaying. Yes.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Whereas Chicago, I'm in heaven. Of course.
Maggie Winters
So that's coming from there. Even the rent here. I'm like, you guys are. Have a sickness where you're like, this amazing apartment is so cheap. I go to it. It's slanted. It's like, oh, slanted is illegal. You walk all the way up, there's no fridge. Well, that slanted thing, amazing.
George Severis
I'm like, what if Something is not slanted. That's like, a perk. I would list that on the street. Easy.
Sam Taggart
Slanted. I'm almost like, oh, that's like an exposed brick. I'm like, yeah, there's charm here.
Maggie Winters
You guys are sick. Can we get a doctor on the bottom? We need a doct.
George Severis
No, we need to be prescribed ayahuasca.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God. Okay, I'm gonna start a second show called Ayahuasca with Maggie. I've never done it, but I figured out.
George Severis
But I'm like, should I.
Maggie Winters
Should we.
Sam Taggart
I think we should.
George Severis
Let's do it on air.
Sam Taggart
You puke, which was. Is not ideal, but then I think after that, you're chilling.
George Severis
Yeah. I think you, like, puke. And then you're like, oh, God. That's what I'm supposed to do with my life.
Maggie Winters
Oh, I have. Oh, my God. I was thinking it was more like, oh, I have to get milk.
George Severis
Yeah, Yeah.
Sam Taggart
I think it would be like, oh, my favorite color is red.
Maggie Winters
I would love to figure out my favorite color.
Sam Taggart
I would love to. I know.
George Severis
I would love to meet. Who talks about figuring out everything because of drugs and then seems not crazy.
Sam Taggart
I fully agree. That is, like, the big concern.
George Severis
The white whale is.
Sam Taggart
I'm like, you think you figured out, but from the outside looking at you, you're so annoying.
Maggie Winters
It's a white woman with dreads who's like, you have to do it. And you're like, I don't want anything that you're doing.
George Severis
Or worse. It's a white man who works as.
Sam Taggart
A software engineer, and it's sort of like.
Maggie Winters
That's actually even more.
Sam Taggart
He's like, I could feel a lot of trauma.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Like here in my lower. Yeah, yeah. And. And I still. It's there, and I can still feel it in my lower.
George Severis
Do you feel it in your lower or your.
Sam Taggart
Where's your lower?
George Severis
My lower actually switched with my upper, and now I feel Amazon.
Maggie Winters
How's your lower? It's like we're getting married.
George Severis
That's an amazing pickup line. How's your lower?
Sam Taggart
How's your lower?
Maggie Winters
You go, what? I'm like, how's your lower? What's the problem? Jesus.
George Severis
Should we do our first segment?
Sam Taggart
I have one more thing to say while we're on the subject of new. I keep doing this thing where I keep forgetting to jump in at the appropriate time, and then five minutes later, I'm like, right. I remember now. Speaking of slanted floors, speaking of apartments being bad. I've been gone for long enough that When I went to the first party in an apartment on Friday night, I was like, oh, my God, HBO's Girls. Like, I was literally like. I was like, oh, so this party's, like, Brooklyn themed. Like, I was like, I miss. I remember this. Like, oh, my God. It was really wild to be like. There's that feeling you get when you go into an apartment for a party and you're like, this is really something.
Maggie Winters
The way that you were invited to two parties. When you said that I go, I was. I was searching high and low. On Friday night, I was. I was messaging everyone I've ever.
George Severis
Well, there is this happening, which we touch on often and have never done a deep dive on, which is like, gay guys are segregating more and more.
Maggie Winters
I do have to say, and I'm not going to name any names, but I did have a gay guy friend here who was like, I met my first guy who goes, I just don't like women. And I said, that's awesome that he's saying. I go, does he like any divas, though? And he goes, his favorite diva is Lana Del. Right? And I said, well, that adds.
Sam Taggart
Oh, that adds up a lot.
Maggie Winters
So much sense.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I hope I never meet this person. Isn't that crazy?
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Well, if you do meet him, he will not see you.
Maggie Winters
So that's like, oh, what the hell.
George Severis
No, there's some regression happening.
Maggie Winters
What the.
Sam Taggart
Well, it's. I did compromise on my beliefs a little bit for the first party because.
Maggie Winters
Oh, it was you that actually said it. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
No, everyone. It was a very mixed crowd, gender and sexuality. But everyone was at least, like, 10 years younger than me. And I was sort of like. Like, I was brought there by a dear friend. And I said, I think we might actually have to leave because I'm feeling elderly.
George Severis
Oh, this was not Charlie's.
Sam Taggart
No, Charlie's. Everyone was age appropriate.
Maggie Winters
Okay, good. I went to a bar recently where I walked up and the bouncer was going, no more fake IDs, guys. And I said, I will not be going into this bar. And I went right to my hotel. Isn't that crazy? No more fake IDs.
Sam Taggart
Where were you, first of all?
Maggie Winters
How many were you accepted? I was in Nashville.
Sam Taggart
Oh, okay.
Maggie Winters
No more like, he's like, I'll take to four, but then no more after that.
Sam Taggart
That is crazy.
Maggie Winters
That's. Yeah. A bar called. Guess what it was called.
Sam Taggart
Underage Teens.
Maggie Winters
Losers.
George Severis
Okay, well, that's fun.
Maggie Winters
I know, but Losers. Yeah, it's called. And then it's next to a bar Called Winners not Winters. I wish.
Sam Taggart
But wait, are they in cahoots?
Maggie Winters
I think so.
George Severis
I'm going to say something so offensive.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
That level of whimsy I would not expect in Nashville.
Maggie Winters
Sorry. I know.
Sam Taggart
I think.
George Severis
Which I. And I love that it's.
Sam Taggart
But it's like that thing where even these cities that are like, like you would think aren't getting whimsical, they're still influenced by like millennial culture, like tech culture. Like even they are like now like the people that were Blur core are like able to buy a bar.
George Severis
I see. Well, you know what it reminds me of in Gone Girl. You know what I'm going to say?
Maggie Winters
No.
George Severis
Well, in Gone Girl, just the movie got me excited. Bar that.
Maggie Winters
I seen that too.
George Severis
Ben Affleck owns with his sister is called the Bar. And there's in the book which I've read, they like describe it as like. He's like, yo, it's like is a hipster thing that we named at the bar. Like, it's like he's like rolling his eyes, being like. And yeah, we did the hipster thing of naming it something self referential. It's like, okay, well that's actually not that good of a name. No, it's really like Winners and Losers is much better than the bar.
Maggie Winters
Yes. Yeah. I just wish there it wasn't like pre teens in there.
George Severis
Right.
Sam Taggart
Enjoyed it. Yeah. That's tough.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. I really am feeling my age in the city, which is 22.
Sam Taggart
Well, this is.
George Severis
Thank you for saying this because I've been feeling decrepit.
Sam Taggart
I will say LA has its issues, but one issue they don't have is you actually are allowed to be in your mid-30s there.
George Severis
Whereas in New York as a man.
Sam Taggart
As a man, of course.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Sorry. In New York, for you it would.
George Severis
Be a whole other women are not.
Maggie Winters
Accepted in the city.
Sam Taggart
I keep meeting people. Like everyone I meet in LA, they're like, oh yeah, I'm 37. I'm like, oh, cool. Everyone I meet here is like, I'm 28. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait. But I'm meeting you.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. Crazy said 28. Because I'm on tour right now with Connor Wood Fibula and he all. It's all girls in their 20s on his that I'd go to the shows and afterwards they'll be like, you're 28? Right? To me. And I'm like, I'm 35. And they go like, so you're 28? Like, they can't take. They're like, no, no, no. You're 28. And I go, great. Yeah, that's fine.
Sam Taggart
Sure.
Maggie Winters
Write it down. Sure, whatever you want. 35 to them. They go like, you should be home, baby husband.
Sam Taggart
Home, baby husband.
Maggie Winters
You're doing comedy. That's not adding up.
George Severis
You should be running for office as a Republican in Wisconsin. Yeah.
Maggie Winters
What are you thinking? Yeah, like. Oh, right. You're right.
George Severis
You're sorry.
Sam Taggart
You're right.
Maggie Winters
Sorry, Sorry.
Sam Taggart
Should we do our first segment?
Maggie Winters
Yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah, we should.
Sam Taggart
No, don't.
George Severis
Thank you for apologizing, by the way, because we were like, shut up.
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High key.
George Severis
Listen to High Key, a new weekly podcast. You better listen. That's literally the definition of being an Aries moon. Just one little spicy off comment.
Sam Taggart
That's awesome.
George Severis
Everyone loves me at the cancer and then the Aries comes out and they said, who the is that? No, you're gonna come for me being an Aries and you have a sag Moon. Get out of here. But I'm a Capricorn rising, so that honestly balances it out and makes me more likable. Okay, that is your Capricorn talking. Listen to High key on the iHeartRadio.
Sam Taggart
App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so our first segment is called Straight Shooters. And in this segment we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions. It's basically this thing or this other thing. And the only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or we will scream at you. Yes, pretty much. Okay, I'm trying to find mine. Okay, I can go first.
George Severis
Yes.
Sam Taggart
Muffin top or bagel bottom?
Maggie Winters
Bagel bottom.
George Severis
Pink panthers or Blues Clues?
Maggie Winters
Blues clues.
Sam Taggart
Ford F150.
Maggie Winters
Wait, I'm sorry, I'm picking the straight.
George Severis
Things and that's a question.
Sam Taggart
Ford F150 or Lordy, Lordy, mommy's turning 40.
Maggie Winters
Lordy, Lordy, momty's turn.
George Severis
Vanna White or Orphan Black?
Maggie Winters
Oh, Vanna White.
Sam Taggart
Chapstick or Chappaquiddick?
Maggie Winters
Ooh, that's really good.
George Severis
Everybody hurts everybody poops or Everybody Loves Raymond?
Maggie Winters
Ooh, Everybody loves Raymond.
Sam Taggart
Having brunch with the girls or having a hunch those aren't pearls?
Maggie Winters
Having a hunch those aren't pearls.
George Severis
Ooh, the performance inside Amy Schumer or Confide in Me, what's the rumor?
Maggie Winters
Confide in Me what's the rumor?
Sam Taggart
Wow.
George Severis
Wow. Okay, okay.
Sam Taggart
That was amazing.
George Severis
That was really good.
Maggie Winters
I'm was. I don't know what I was answering.
George Severis
Well, the thing is, I'm like, obviously you did ask a question, which is a point deduction, but then afterwards you stepped it up in such an Immense way.
Sam Taggart
I agree.
George Severis
Where I'm like, it actually balanced out the asking of a question.
Sam Taggart
I was really blown away by that.
George Severis
And if anyone isn't watching on video, there was face acting happening.
Maggie Winters
I'm available to book. And I keep saying that, yeah, New.
George Severis
York based for now.
Maggie Winters
For now.
George Severis
Until mid November.
Maggie Winters
Until mid November. But I'll go anywhere. I'll go. Scared people are like, do you have any. You're scared. You're scared. Toronto. I am scared of Toronto. Sorry.
Sam Taggart
That's the only place I'm not afraid of.
George Severis
Yeah, no, same really.
Maggie Winters
I've been there, but I was. No, I haven't been there.
George Severis
You've been to Montreal?
Maggie Winters
I've been to Montreal and Vancouver.
George Severis
Okay.
Maggie Winters
Oh, Vancouver. I went to. And I'm gonna hate to say this. The arrows to store.
Sam Taggart
Oh, wow.
George Severis
You know what's funny? Oh, no, I don't care about the air store. But I. Sorry.
Sam Taggart
It's funny. I don't care about the store.
George Severis
No, what I was gonna say is I actually almost went there for the Renaissance tour, and for a second I thought the A store was a Renaissance tour. And so I was gonna relate to you. But it's actually completely Beyonce.
Maggie Winters
One's Taylor Swift for sure.
George Severis
And they are different women. People confuse them all the time.
Maggie Winters
Both billionaires. Which is awesome.
Sam Taggart
That is awesome.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, both.
George Severis
Is Beyonce a billionaire billionaire?
Maggie Winters
Yes.
George Severis
All right, well, we're not gonna fact check that.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
But I have seen multiple tick tocks that are like, she's ethical billionaire, which I would go absolutely.
George Severis
Like, I actually agree.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, whatever anyone thinks, I agree.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I fully agree.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, whatever you say. No matter what, someone's gonna comment something horrible and be like, you agree with this?
Sam Taggart
And I'll say, pretty much, maybe.
George Severis
So we rate each guest's performance on a scale of 0 to 1000. What?
Maggie Winters
I said, are you crying? You like? Yeah, I'm in a way where you're like, I can't do this.
Sam Taggart
No. You really, like, slowed your pace in a way.
Maggie Winters
No.
George Severis
You know why? Because I'm like. I. The. I'm like, in order for. In order for us to have a proper conversation about whether or not Beyonce is an ethical billionaire, we would have to be, like, in a different studio. Have different. Just be in a completely different.
Maggie Winters
I would have had to not go to state school. And that's not.
George Severis
It's just like, I can't. There just isn't the time or the space. Honey, I would need 15 more of these coffees.
Maggie Winters
I would. I would need to not be here.
George Severis
Yeah. No, we'd need ayahuasca. We need multiple ayahuasca. Good trips just as a baseline.
Maggie Winters
And we go, oh, yeah, the answer.
George Severis
Oh, I need to get milk. I need to go to Vancouver to get milk.
Sam Taggart
So basically we get. We rate you on a scale of 0 to 1000 doves based on the Lady Gaga song that not many people know, but some.
Maggie Winters
What song?
George Severis
1000 Doves.
Maggie Winters
Right.
Sam Taggart
And I really think that was amazing. I think. I think 870.
George Severis
I agree.
Maggie Winters
Thank you guys so much.
George Severis
You did a really good job.
Sam Taggart
Really good.
Maggie Winters
Maggie, you did a really. You really earned to 870.
George Severis
Oh, my God. You should.
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Wow.
Sam Taggart
That'd be amazing.
Maggie Winters
Like, wow. Please don't ever come back.
George Severis
Like, she swear.
Maggie Winters
Abby, run studio.
George Severis
Sorry.
Sam Taggart
Y. Y. Wait.
George Severis
What?
Sam Taggart
This is so different.
George Severis
What?
Sam Taggart
Sorry. I feel like, like a new batch of slang has just dropped, you know, this is so irrelevant.
Maggie Winters
I feel like you just got shot. You're like, you need to stop apologizing.
George Severis
Stop apologizing for being random because it's like senorita awesome.
Sam Taggart
I'm trying to tap into my. So I feel like a new batch of slang has dropped in a way that is like, it feels. I'm feeling a bit conspiratorial about it because it feels like it's not just like, oh, one new word is flowing around.
George Severis
So what are we. What are you thinking specifically?
Sam Taggart
So I'm thinking, like, chopped and.
George Severis
Oh, yeah, I love chopped and I.
Maggie Winters
Don'T know what unc is, but it's like, older. Yeah. Like, you're.
Sam Taggart
You're unknown.
Maggie Winters
That TikTok is what the guy. I was like, he was a teacher and he was like, I been told I'm chopped and unk. So okay. So, okay.
Sam Taggart
And there's like, a few other ones that I've noticed, like, being thrown around where I'm sort of like, I'm not even comfortable saying them out loud because I'm sort of like, I could have been hearing them wrong and I was pretending like I knew already. So I was just like, totally. And because us saying yas in sort of a post ironic way made me be like, wait, wait, wait. You know how that's like a historical text now? But I think some things were wrong. I think. I think the government has put out seven new words to. To differentiate who is young and who is old.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. And I'm def. I'm still saying slay. So it's like it's over for me in a big way. Like, I'm in the comments on slay. And everyone's like, please, please, please. You're chopped an unk. And I go, that's fine.
George Severis
You're chopped an unk.
Sam Taggart
Slay.
Maggie Winters
And I go, slay again. No, you're right. You think the government's doing it.
Sam Taggart
I think it's the government.
Maggie Winters
Who from the government?
Sam Taggart
Pete Buttigieg.
George Severis
Yeah, it's Pete Buttigieg.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God. It's Pete Buttigieg. And Chastain.
Sam Taggart
Chastain definitely helped.
Maggie Winters
Like, he did improv.
Sam Taggart
Pete would come home, and I'm saying.
Maggie Winters
It live on air. He did improv.
Sam Taggart
He did improv, folks.
George Severis
He did improv with Meg. Meg Stalter took an improv class with him. I'm not kidding.
Maggie Winters
No, no, you're real. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
No, I think Pete was coming home and he's like, I'm just really stressed, babe. Like, I have to come up with, like, seven new words. And, like, I don't know what the fuck.
Maggie Winters
And chopping onions.
Sam Taggart
Justin's like, chop, chop. Chopped.
Maggie Winters
Also, your uncle called. Chopped it up.
Sam Taggart
Holy shit.
Maggie Winters
The way that young people are listening to this and going, these people should be.
George Severis
No, it's. And to be clear, we.
Maggie Winters
To be clear, I can't wait to be put to death.
Sam Taggart
That's one of the opinions we agree with, by the way.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. Because you can't say kms. So I'm like. I can say, like, just put me to death.
George Severis
I actually think, yeah, not kms, Just km. Kill me.
Maggie Winters
Kill me. Yeah. I. So I don't. So my family can't be like, she made this decision. It's like someone else made it for me.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. This is like the locks.
George Severis
Same way.
Maggie Winters
Going back to locks.
Sam Taggart
Because you're making the decision for me. If I. I can't order the locks for myself because I know I don't like them, but if someone else orders them for me, I get to eat them and have an experience. Experience.
Maggie Winters
I just did this with Sandal north, which is that burrito place.
George Severis
Oh.
Maggie Winters
And everyone's like, you have to get the bean and cheese burrito. I don't like beans. But I'm going, you don't like.
Sam Taggart
You don't like beans, period.
Maggie Winters
I know. We.
George Severis
Okay, we can't. Obviously, it's something you've talked about at link in other interviews.
Maggie Winters
And I know it's. It's bad, but I was like, I'll try it. It looks really good. I'd take one bite. I go, I don't like beans. This is crazy. I. I doordash. You know, I spent $40 on this.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. And that's.
George Severis
This is actually how I feel about radishes. Which people and radishes.
Sam Taggart
I love radishes.
George Severis
You love radishes?
Sam Taggart
I love.
George Severis
I mean, everyone does. I'm like, what is this off? What am I being offered here? Like, what is the point of this.
Maggie Winters
In the French way? Have you had it with butter and salt?
George Severis
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Okay.
Sam Taggart
I'm surprised.
Maggie Winters
Never mind.
George Severis
I know you would. So. So it's so me. It's so I. And that's how I know I'm like, not one note. You know, it's like I have all my personality traits and I don't like radishes.
Sam Taggart
There's depth there.
George Severis
There's depth.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. There's a lot of depth.
George Severis
Wait, I want to talk about the. The word thing. I think we need the. The. The pace of trends has just been ratcheted up so much that there's no time for them to marinate.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
It.
Sam Taggart
It very quickly becomes ironic. Like, the slay ification happens, like, within three days.
George Severis
And I would even say some of them are good enough to stand the test of time, but there's just no time to process which, like, I actually like chopped. I could see chopped in a different era. Chopped could become the new groovy, you know, which really, like, is groovy. Was.
Sam Taggart
I mean, that was a different.
Maggie Winters
Chopped is bad, right?
George Severis
Yeah, but I mean, like, just in terms of a term, like, in term, I don't mean, like, I'm going around meaningless.
Maggie Winters
Chopped.
Sam Taggart
Everyone's like, this party's chopped.
George Severis
But, like, I think it has potential. But just because of the way things are, it's going to be overused so fast, then within a week, you'll be stupid if you say chopped.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Well, there's no sincerity in any of it anymore. There's always an ironic distance.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
And it's. It makes it difficult to cling to.
George Severis
I know. I'm almost like, so we need to go back to adulting. Like, we need to go back.
Sam Taggart
I mean, unfortunately, all roads do lead to going back to adulting.
George Severis
All roads lead to going back to adulting.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
One of my favorite things seniorita awesome. One of my favorite things is how Bill Maher called his standup special two years ago. Adulting.
Maggie Winters
No.
George Severis
And the reason is because he had just learned the term adulting. And his take on it was like, can you believe these fucking kids? They're doing. They're going to the store and they're saying it's adulting. It's like, so you missed five rounds of Conversation about this and think you invented criticizing the term adulting. It's so iconic.
Sam Taggart
I mean, Ant for his podcast, BE Club Random also.
George Severis
Well, that's amazing.
Sam Taggart
Like such a one, two punch.
George Severis
No, he's amazing.
Sam Taggart
It's really like, this is something to be studied.
George Severis
No, he's like the. He's the da Vinci of not getting the point. It's crazy.
Maggie Winters
A restaurant in where I'm from in Chicago opened up like six months ago. Hashtag. Hashtag.
George Severis
Wait, I'm obsessed.
Maggie Winters
They had an. It's. I don't even want to say the full name, but it's like, hashtag the street they're on. And I was like, oh, I thought.
George Severis
It was just called hashtag.
Maggie Winters
No, that'd be.
George Severis
Which would be very. The bar.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. No, it's. I'm like, like, nobody thought to like. Yeah, be like, don't do that.
Sam Taggart
That's crazy.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. And I'm like, I just feel like I can't even go there. I would just be sitting in there like, please, please, please. I'm chopped. And on. This is crazy.
George Severis
Hi, sorry, I'm. Chopp. Do you guys have the special?
Sam Taggart
You know, there is something. The only way I could forgive them is if it was sort of an ironic 2015 bar. Like where if everything was the style of 2015. Yeah, that could be kind of interesting.
Maggie Winters
But it's.
Sam Taggart
They were doing an editing.
Maggie Winters
I knew like, where the neighborhood I was from. Like, they. They don't have that. Oh, it's not that kind of vibe. It's more like. Yeah, like they're being dead serious.
Sam Taggart
They're like, this is awesome.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, this is awesome.
Sam Taggart
They're like, this is awesome sauce.
Maggie Winters
Oh my God. And they probably have the menu. It's like, order awesome sauce. Like, it's delicious.
George Severis
Can I ask something though? At this point, what would you name a new established.
Maggie Winters
Like, if I had to name a restaurant.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah.
Maggie Winters
I'm probably going like something in the family.
Sam Taggart
I'm going Sam's Bar.
George Severis
Okay. All right. So obviously, yes.
Maggie Winters
I'm doing a French wine bar called Marguerite because that's my real name.
George Severis
Oh, that's really good. Okay. So here's. I'm gonna add one limitation.
Maggie Winters
Please.
George Severis
No names.
Sam Taggart
Okay.
George Severis
Because that's obviously the name is the. Is the timeless.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
George Severis
But it's like. Because here's the thing. You can't do Rome like R O A M like. Cuz that feels very early artisanal. You know what I mean?
Maggie Winters
Yeah. My dad had two restaurants. Oh. Or no one restaurant. It Was two different names. One was Willie's Dine and Dance. Then it was also. The bigger one was Waltzing Matilda's.
Sam Taggart
Wow, that's really good.
Maggie Winters
And the. It was a. It was a kangaroo, like, boxing. Waltzing Matilda's. Oh, isn't that crazy?
Sam Taggart
That is crazy.
Maggie Winters
But that's also a name still.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I can't. It's really hard to think.
Maggie Winters
He also had a liquor. A liquor. He also had a liquor place, which is also called, like, a bar or.
Sam Taggart
Like, a liquor store.
Maggie Winters
A liquor store. A liquor place that I really couldn't think of it called Good Spirits.
George Severis
Oh, that's good.
Sam Taggart
That's classic.
Maggie Winters
So I'm not answering your question at all. I'm kind of, like, avoiding it.
George Severis
No, but I. But this is a good. And I want everyone to write it.
Maggie Winters
And it's like, yeah, write in, please.
George Severis
I. Because I'm sort of like, how do you go? Not overly artisanal. Not corny. Not meme. Memey. Internet reference. Y.
Maggie Winters
One word feels good to me.
Sam Taggart
One word feels good. I mean, I do kind of like. Like. Like one description. Like the shaky blank. Or like, that can kind of be fun.
Maggie Winters
The Shaky Blank.
Sam Taggart
Like.
George Severis
Yeah, no, I see what you're saying.
Maggie Winters
We're going to the shaky Blank.
George Severis
Like, the spot. Like the spotted pig.
Sam Taggart
Like. Like, I. I like something like that. That. That can feel kind of classic.
George Severis
This. What I'm about to say is not my final answer, but I'm like, the direction of, like, the upstairs. Like, something along those lines.
Sam Taggart
That's good. Okay, what about this? The Stinky Girl, the way.
Maggie Winters
I'm not going there because everyone's gonna go, you're stinky.
George Severis
It's actually crazy.
Sam Taggart
What kind of food we're meeting at the Stinky Girl.
Maggie Winters
Or is it bar?
Sam Taggart
It's bar.
George Severis
I mean, bar, but they have pretzels. Oh, that's good.
Maggie Winters
I like that.
George Severis
Okay. I could do Stinky Girl for a.
Maggie Winters
Bar, and they have to have, like, Stinky Girl girl beer, cheese dips.
George Severis
But it would be amazing if it was this. The Stinky Girl. But it was, like, a really fancy French restaurant.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God.
George Severis
Like, I'll have the escargot.
Maggie Winters
I'll have the Stinky Girl. I cannot get in the Stinky Girl. I'm on an open table every day. Like, the Stinky Girl.
Sam Taggart
I mean, the. I can see, like, the restaurant review being, like, so positive.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
And being like, the stinky Girl. That stink will stay with you despite its name.
George Severis
Wait, what about this halfway?
Maggie Winters
I know. I'm not Be able to get in there.
Sam Taggart
You know what halfway is? Halfway is like someone's having their birthday party there Saturday afternoon, and you're gonna be like, it's like kind of far. But you're like, it is really nice once we get there.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God.
George Severis
Stripe.
Sam Taggart
Not even stripes.
George Severis
Stripes.
Maggie Winters
Now why? And it's like, I've never actually gone through a breakup, but I want to name my bar breakup.
Sam Taggart
Oh, I like that.
George Severis
That's really good. That's really bar called Breakup.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
That's genius.
Sam Taggart
That's really good.
Maggie Winters
Thank you, guys.
Sam Taggart
Speaking of, we actually do need to get into our topic.
Maggie Winters
We have been speaking of. We do want to break up with you right now, live on camera.
George Severis
So this has been fun.
Sam Taggart
Amazing. We don't see us moving forward, but.
Maggie Winters
Oh, I thought. Okay.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah. This was an audition, by the way.
George Severis
We booked you a flight. We booked you a flight back to Chicago.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Everyone in New York got together. You have to go.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
So okay, that makes sense.
Sam Taggart
Because before we were like, who is she? Who is she? Then we were like, okay, we get.
Maggie Winters
Get it and we're not liking it. Yeah, she's chopped an.
Sam Taggart
She's chopping on the way.
Maggie Winters
I've said it so many times that, like, it's over for me.
George Severis
Chom is so stupid.
Sam Taggart
It's so stupid.
George Severis
I can't.
Maggie Winters
I can't.
George Severis
I can't hate. Like, sometimes I accidentally say I can't.
Sam Taggart
And it's like, you know what I do that I hate where I go, like. Like if you say like something silly like say, you say chopped an un and I think that's so funny. I go, not chopped an ankh.
George Severis
Oh my God.
Sam Taggart
No, I hate doing that. And I don't it all the time.
Maggie Winters
No, I do that too. Okay, so not me doing that too.
Sam Taggart
Not me doing that too. Wait, we were going to do the topic? Yeah, and I thought there was a eating establishment. There would have been an amazing transition because we were talking about bars and restaurants, but we blew it. Cuz we had an amazing riff about I blew myself.
George Severis
Oh, arrest development reference.
Maggie Winters
No, I. No, it's my. It's my favorite. Joe.
Sam Taggart
Bring it back.
Maggie Winters
Bring it back.
George Severis
Back.
Maggie Winters
They brought it back. Hated it.
George Severis
God, it is so, so funny.
Maggie Winters
It's kind of annoying how funny it is. I'm going, okay, so you think you're better than me? You think you're better than me? I can't even book the show. It's done.
Sam Taggart
It's done.
George Severis
Someone recommend. Sorry, I. We will get into the topic. Someone Recommended a book to me. They're like, it's coming out soon, but I got an advanced copy. I think you'd really like it. I clicked the link. Okay. The first sentence of this book, I don't remember the character's name. Maggie is a Island. A 34 year old TV writer who is consumed by professional jealousy, period. And then it keeps going and I'm like, no, no, no, no. You think I would like. I am not reading that.
Maggie Winters
I'm not reading.
Sam Taggart
I'm not reading a whole novel about that.
Maggie Winters
No, absolutely not.
George Severis
No.
Sam Taggart
Thank you.
George Severis
Anyway, go on.
Sam Taggart
So, Maggie, what is your straight topic today? What is straight about it?
Maggie Winters
I'm going with Burger King. King.
Sam Taggart
Burger King.
Maggie Winters
Because I was thinking, like, any place that's like, yeah, we have the Whopper. Like, we're just simple guys. We're just Whopper guys. Like, it's fine. Chicken fries.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Like, we want our protein, but we're like, we want the fries. So we're going to make them. Chicken fry. You know, like, we got pie, but it's like, kind of fucked up.
Sam Taggart
I'm interested in the differentiation between burger King and McDonald's.
George Severis
Yes. Because we have done McDonald's as a straight topic and we've done. We've done blizzards, which are from where? Dairy Queen. Dairy Queen. So there's been a few. The one thing everyone agrees on is that Chick Fil A is gay. So we don't even need to go into that.
Maggie Winters
McDonald's, to me, can, like, lean bisexual. Because, like, Shamrock shake, honey.
George Severis
True.
Maggie Winters
Or like right now, do you see the McWnderland shake? No.1 of the scariest things I've ever seen. Blue shake, pink whipped cream.
George Severis
Okay.
Sam Taggart
Okay.
Maggie Winters
What's going on? Transgender. Amazing. Like, oh, maybe.
George Severis
No, they took a stand.
Sam Taggart
What's going on? Transgender.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
What's going on? Transgender.
Maggie Winters
Burger King, to me, just always like. And like, they do, you know, like, they have the impossible burger, which to me is like a straight guy being like, my wife's vegetarian. I don't know, I cook her. But like a little meatless thing. Like, yeah, it's a straight guy, specifically.
Sam Taggart
I mean, it is the King.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, it's the King. Like the Burger King. And he's just. But it's not like, there's no frills. Like, they're not. They're not even trying to be McDonald's. Like, they're really like, we're just doing, like, we're in the airport. Like, we know you're really not coming here, but, like, we don't care. Like, we're here when you need us.
Sam Taggart
Burger King is so, like, sort of the straight guy sort of in the post me too world, being like, you probably don't even want me here.
George Severis
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. Literally been like, there's no.
George Severis
And even the king of it is ironic almost, or it's not ironic. It's almost like defeatist. It's like, yeah. Like, it's a crown, but it is made of paper.
Sam Taggart
I do feel like Burger King has made itself smaller. Smaller. And in a way that, like, I. I'm kind of confused by.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
And I'm interested in, like, psychologically what's going on over there. Because I remember, like, when I was in high school, like, Burger King was like, up there. Like, it was sort of respected.
Maggie Winters
There was birthday parties there.
Sam Taggart
There was birthday parties there.
Maggie Winters
Not in high school, I guess not in high school. But it was like, 16th birthday party.
Sam Taggart
Was not my graduation event. But it. It had had like, a. As positive of a reputation as McDonald's and at least in my culture.
Maggie Winters
Okay, okay, okay.
Sam Taggart
And I was like, I'm. And now it's like, fully below. Below. It's like, much lower tier.
George Severis
So it's actually. It's not that it's straight in the sense that it's the norm, like, the hegemonic norm. And it's like the king. It's that it's straight in like a heteropessimist way. It's like, it's straight. It's like, it's like a guy that's like. Like, I mean, it's exactly what you were saying. It's like a guy that's like, what is my role anymore? Like, so I'm not allowed to be. I'm not allowed to hit on anyone at work.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. It's a working class guy. Like, he's like, I don't know. I'm just eating the Whopper. It's not a big deal. Like. Yeah, because McDonald's too, to me, has become such a. Like, like, I get the fries and I get the Diet Coke. Like, I'm. It's girl time. Like, yeah.
Sam Taggart
It's kind of having a cake and eating it too, in a huge way.
George Severis
Actually. It's so true. Like, there is something about McDonald's also. Also that the iconography of it is so fun. The clown. It's like, okay, sorry. But we have King and Jester.
Maggie Winters
Yes.
George Severis
So Burger King is the king. McDonald's is the jester guest who's straight and who's gay. Truth. Yeah, he's the only person who can speak truth. And McDonald's has a whole cast of characters that's very, like, community oriented. Oh, my God.
Maggie Winters
And I'm not. I didn't even plan this.
Sam Taggart
Damn. Maggie's wearing shirt. A shirt with Grimace. Is that his name?
Maggie Winters
Grimace with a. And he does have a knife. And he's on a skateboard.
Sam Taggart
Okay.
George Severis
And it says Gucci.
Sam Taggart
Just to be clear, just so everyone gets it.
Maggie Winters
I forgot it.
George Severis
So just again, like, if anyone's. And we're not joking about any of this, it says Gucci.
Maggie Winters
You would think that was like.
George Severis
It says Gucci. And then there's Grimace on a skateboard holding a knife.
Maggie Winters
Derek Ederman is.
George Severis
This actually is very much like ironic tea in the indie sleaze era.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
You know what I mean?
Sam Taggart
Yeah, for sure.
Maggie Winters
Oh, a thousand percent. The people, people. The people. People on the street, like, I feel like they look. They're the hell.
George Severis
I guarantee you they think it's a, like, fashion.
Maggie Winters
Like a fashion thing.
George Severis
No, I know. I don't think they think it's real Gucci. I think they think it's like a collab. Yeah, Like a. Like a streetwear collab.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Awesome. And I hope people think that in New York because there's.
Sam Taggart
Well, there's something about being in New York where if, like, people will assume up, like, they're almost like, oh, I don't get that. It must be really high.
George Severis
I complain.
Sam Taggart
Fashion.
George Severis
Yes.
Maggie Winters
Oh, that's awesome.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
That means the world to me because I. I'm nervous. People are like, what the hell is she doing?
George Severis
No, I actually genuinely think you look very cool. And I think your shoes also, like, it just is all adding up.
Maggie Winters
I'm gonna bawl my eyes out. First of all, I was like, I have to wear my hokas because the. The walking is just. I walked here. Yeah. I walked here non stop. And I was wearing, like, my cool boots the other day. Boots and boots. The house down sleigh. And it was just like, ooh. I was like, these hurt. I'm walking so much it hurts.
Sam Taggart
I'm surprised. We'll get back to Burger King, of course. But I'm surprised.
Maggie Winters
And they don't mind. They're sitting there waiting. They're waiting patiently.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. We'll get back to Burger. Burger King right after the break.
Maggie Winters
Burger King, Yeah.
George Severis
Oh, oh, Burger King. Sorry.
Sam Taggart
I think I'm surprised. There's so much of a difference from Chicago to New York, to be honest, because I feel like you're on your feet all the Time in Chicago as well.
Maggie Winters
I am, I am. But to be honest and open and real and raw, I was living with my parents for the last six months. And not. It's not the suburbs yet, but it's like, suburb feels okay. So, like, which part is it, Beverly? On the far south side. And while you're like, you do walk. Like, you're not. It's not doing it like here. The trains. What. What I've learned is, like, we have trains in Chicago, but they kind of gave up. Like, me and my dad were talking, like, they went north, they went a little bit south. They went a little. And then they were like, we're done here. You can get anywhere. Yeah, they're like. Like, you can get some places.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. They're like, I hope you want to go straight to center of town.
Maggie Winters
Yes. Yeah. And it's obviously like. Like, there's a lot of, like, history behind why and racism. And that's.
George Severis
And tell us.
Maggie Winters
And that's the other podcast we would do. And I would.
George Severis
And start from the beginning, and I want to know the history.
Maggie Winters
Yes.
George Severis
Right, right, right.
Maggie Winters
But it's. Yeah, it's just like, you can't really just like, bop around like you can here.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
If you're living in the. On the north side, you're bopping in a way that's different from, like. But where I was living. Like, you're going to hashtag 95th street, aisle seven. And. And that's about it. But I just feel like. Feel like I'm like, definitely doing more here, which is good. Which is good.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. I'm not complaint. Please, please. I'm glad to be here. I'm sure you'll love. Please.
Sam Taggart
You'd seen.
Maggie Winters
Well, stop crying then. Like, what do you want?
Sam Taggart
Okay, so Burger King.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, Burger King.
Sam Taggart
Do they have signature drinks?
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
What's their signature?
Maggie Winters
No, they just have pop.
George Severis
Really?
Sam Taggart
See, that's all, like, they need.
Maggie Winters
I don't think they have a signature.
George Severis
Also, don't write in. We don't care if they do.
Maggie Winters
Someone's like, they have the. We don't care. The chicken fries is pretty bad.
Sam Taggart
Chicken fries is their signature thing.
George Severis
Wait, so what is chicken fries?
Maggie Winters
It's a fry, but it's just chicken.
Sam Taggart
Like a fried chicken stick.
George Severis
Oh.
Sam Taggart
And they give them in a pack like they would fries.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
See, this is interesting because it's like, I don't want that. I actually want chicken nuggets or chicken fingers.
Maggie Winters
They do have chicken nuggets.
George Severis
Sure. No, I'm. I'm sure they do. But I'm like, why would you then want them in a fry shape? Like, chicken nuggets are the perfect shape. You can't eat chicken nuggets on the go. Get real. Get real.
Maggie Winters
What if you want to smoke them like a cigarette?
George Severis
Okay, that's fun.
Sam Taggart
I think they do it because can you get it, like, with the combo? Like, you can get, like, the burger and the chicken fries.
Maggie Winters
You want to go protein mode.
Sam Taggart
Like, I think that is what they're offering. Right?
Maggie Winters
I. It's like, we need to go there and check it. Should we leave and go there?
Sam Taggart
We should leave and go there.
Maggie Winters
Also, they have, like, the. The chicken sandwiches that are long. Oh, they're like this long.
Silver Linings Hosts
Oh, so they do things a little bit different.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
But in a way that's, like, uninspiring.
Maggie Winters
What if we had a long chicken sandwich?
George Severis
Okay, so what this is like a.
Maggie Winters
Guy being like, I don't know. The chicken sandwich is long. What do you think?
George Severis
Okay. Yeah, I know what it is. The. The things that Burger King has are decided by, like, a roundtable of sort of mid tier advertising execs that don't. That aren't, like, ambitious in the gay way. Like, they're not trying to win an advertising award. They're just, like, clocking in, clocking out. They are company men. They've been there forever. They're not bad people. They just, like, are doing the. A medium job and they're getting by and they're providing for their families. Whereas I think at McDonald's, every time. Time. It's time for a new Happy Meal, they're like, let's go.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
Like, let's, like, knock this out of the park, y'.
Maggie Winters
All.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah.
Maggie Winters
Oh, and then one of the big things where we haven't talked about is, like, their whole thing is, like, flame grilled, which is like, so.
George Severis
Oh, yes.
Maggie Winters
Like, they put the burger through the thing and the flame. You know what I'm talking about?
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maggie Winters
They're. And they're always like, we're flame girls. It's like, okay.
Sam Taggart
You know, I've seen that, like, word a million times, but I had never actually realized it was, like, so literal.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
They're literally putting it through fire.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, yeah. You're flamed in your grill. That's like. That could be.
Sam Taggart
It's the new chopped. Justin. Justin, tell Pete. Tell Pete.
George Severis
Flamed and grilled.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
Wait, so chopped? Flamed. Grilled.
Maggie Winters
Honey, you're Burger King.
Sam Taggart
Honey, you might be a Burger King if you're an Unc. Who's chopped, flamed and grilled? Honey, you might be a Burger King.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God.
George Severis
Flame grilled reminds me of the. I'm sorry, but classic Ellen DeGeneres joke about plane food. About plane food. Where she's talking about how they have the grill marks.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
And she's like, so they expect us to believe there's someone in front of the plane being like, all right, another one for, you know, table two. Or like, grilling. Grilling chicken on the plane.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my God.
Sam Taggart
It's like.
George Severis
That's hilarious.
Maggie Winters
It is funny. Yeah. Bring her back.
George Severis
Bring her back. I love Ellen.
Maggie Winters
Do you really?
George Severis
I love Ellen's early standup, and I think it was very influential. I was scared for a second, and I sort of. I'm like, it bums me out. Where we are now.
Maggie Winters
Oh, it really bums me out.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Why is every photo of her now, like, her looking so sadly at a camera with like. Like, I'm like, what?
George Severis
Like, just because money and fame ruins.
Maggie Winters
Your life and I can't wait for that.
George Severis
No. And I'm. I think six more months for me.
Maggie Winters
Oh, my. Oh, that's soon. I was thinking six years.
George Severis
I'm waiting on a big payment.
Sam Taggart
I just need $3 million.
George Severis
Oh, this is your new thing.
Maggie Winters
You need to see $3 million.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. And it was 2 million, but with.
Maggie Winters
Inflation, you need 3.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I need 3.
Maggie Winters
3, because there's someone, like, in the world who could just, like, give that to you and, like, isn't that crazy?
George Severis
And it would actually be a tax write off for them. They would end up with more money at the end of the financial quarter.
Sam Taggart
Like, I literally. If you're listening and you have an extra 3 million, I would take it off your hands and I would be so good with it. Like, then I'd be done. I mean, I still, like, do me, but.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. And I got to be clear. Like, I'll take 3,000. Like, no worries at all. Me, please. At Maggie Winners. Someone does it. Someone sends me $3. That would mean the world to me.
Sam Taggart
No, I want three million or nothing.
Maggie Winters
Actually. Don'. This is actually crazy to ask for money online.
Sam Taggart
3 million.
Maggie Winters
I started to go, yours is. Yours is normal. Mine's crazy. It's like, more attainable.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I started GoFundMe for $3,000. Just like, I'm just looking for money.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Let me tell.
George Severis
It's not like, for a specific thing. You're just like, I don't know. I'm running low on funds.
Maggie Winters
I looked my bank account. I didn't like what I saw.
Sam Taggart
I did not like what I saw. That number was not making me happy.
Maggie Winters
Happy meal.
Sam Taggart
Happy Meal.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. Does Burger King have a kid kids meal?
George Severis
I'm.
Sam Taggart
They do.
Maggie Winters
What do they call it?
George Severis
Well, see, and I just want to say the fact that we don't know, and I'm sure they do have specialty drinks. I'm sure they do have a kids meal. There's no way they don't have a specialty drink. But it's like the fact that we don't know means it hasn't made an impact because they're just like the. The last good thing.
Maggie Winters
Frozen stuff. They have like a frozen Coke, don't they? Oh, like making shop so hard. No, I think they have frozen Coke.
Sam Taggart
I would believe. I would believe you.
George Severis
I mean, how frozen are we talking here? It's like a popsicle.
Sam Taggart
No, no, like a slushy. Like a slushy.
George Severis
Oh, a slushy. Okay.
Maggie Winters
Frozen.
George Severis
Listen, I'm sorry, but it's like I cuz I'm like. So it's not a slushy. Like it's just a solid cold.
Maggie Winters
That made you go so straight. You're like. And. And how frozen is it?
George Severis
Sea.
Maggie Winters
Burger King does that.
Sam Taggart
That was alarmist. That was scary. I mean, the fact that if I were Burger King and I heard that be like the fact that you don't trust me to have a frozen. That is consumable is really alarming.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, that is. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh, my God.
George Severis
So, okay, it's. I think it's funny. So what's straight about it is in fact, the forgettability.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
And the lack of branding. And I actually think that's maybe what's insidious about it too, is like it is still everywhere in this country.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
Everywhere. My college.
George Severis
It's like asbestos.
Maggie Winters
It was.
George Severis
Is that how you pronounce that?
Sam Taggart
Mostly asbestos.
George Severis
Asbestos.
Maggie Winters
Well, that's where. That's how I say it in the Midwest. But I could be wrong because I say aunt and everyone's like, it's aunt.
Sam Taggart
I go back and forth because I grew up in the middle and Virginia. So I like go back and forth.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. You're aunt and your unc. My aunt and my unc. My college had it and it was on the dining plan.
Sam Taggart
Burger King.
Maggie Winters
Burger King. So you could go to the Burger King and the Pizza Hut and be like, swipe.
George Severis
Now Pizza Hut is something we can't. We don't even have time to get into the worst pizza literally in the universe.
Sam Taggart
I was a kid. It Meant so much to me.
George Severis
Oh. See, I was a dad. Family.
Sam Taggart
Pizza Hut raised me because of the reading thing. We got groomed. We got groomed into liking Pizza Hut.
Maggie Winters
Yes. First and foremost. And I like, my. We didn't eat. My dad is not a fast food person.
George Severis
Well, he owns restaurants and potentially a liquor store. But you don't remember.
Maggie Winters
No, he did own liquors. He did own liquor, but he, like. We got pizza, like, local. Like, sorry, we're local. We're gonna go.
Sam Taggart
Well, Chicago.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, of course. And then, like. But then I was like, everyone in my class is going to Pizza Hut, Mom. And she was like, okay, like, we'll go.
George Severis
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I think I sat there being like, this is awesome. Like, it wasn't. It was bad.
George Severis
No, it's.
Sam Taggart
No, I was addicted to it. I fully loved it. But now, of course, I see that I was wrong. But I also loved Burger King as a child.
Maggie Winters
Do people eat pizza and Domino's in New York?
Silver Linings Hosts
Sometimes.
Sam Taggart
Mostly Domino's.
George Severis
Yeah. Domino's will. Domino's will sometimes rear its ugly head.
Maggie Winters
That's crazy.
Sam Taggart
It is crazy.
Maggie Winters
I would never.
George Severis
It also is one of the places that is open. Like, some dominoes are open, like 247 or. Or just super late. There have been times in my life where I'm like, okay, well, I'm home after a big party at 4am I'm getting dominant.
Maggie Winters
I wasn't invited.
George Severis
Okay, well, there's sort of no women allowed.
Maggie Winters
That one guy.
George Severis
Yeah, that one guy.
Maggie Winters
Guys, there's only women. It's like, not the vibe. There are parties I don't want to go to. My, like, my gay guy friends, sorry to say the word gay guys.
George Severis
No, please.
Maggie Winters
They'll be like, oh, we're, like, all going to be hooking up. And it's like, well, I don't want to be there for that.
George Severis
No, you should. You should call. You should be like. And now you go there.
Maggie Winters
I'm the madam. I'm like.
Sam Taggart
Arch your back. Arch your back.
George Severis
Big smile. Big smile.
Sam Taggart
Okay, boys, it's time to come. Let's wrap it up. You got big days at work tomorrow.
Maggie Winters
Some of you.
Sam Taggart
Some of you.
George Severis
Yeah. Honestly, very few of you.
Maggie Winters
Very few of you. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Well, I kind of feel bad. There's part of the Burger King ethos that makes me sad, and I feel bad for it, where I'm like, I wish, like, you know, inside of us, there's a McDonald's and a burger King. Like, there's a part of you that wants to strive and dream big and There's a part of you that's like, you piece of. You don't deserve anything. And that's the Burger King. And I'm like, I thought you were.
Maggie Winters
Gonna go the route of just like, I just want to chill and have like been grilled. But no, I'm a piece of. It works too.
George Severis
You know what else about McDonald's?
Sam Taggart
Sorry, it's not. I'm a piece of. It's more like, well, who would even care about my.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
George Severis
There's actually another element to this that I'm now remembering. McDonald's is global in such a big way and is different in every country. And it's like, it is like how there are different versions of the Office that are in, that are like tv. The TV show. The Office that are in different countries. And there's like one in China and one in, you know, France. Yeah. Or. Or the mess singer or whatever.
Sam Taggart
There's Australian office.
George Severis
There's Australian office.
Sam Taggart
I kept seeing ads for it when I was watching.
George Severis
There's even different versions of Friends. Like, there are.
Maggie Winters
I'm like, over here, like, but.
Sam Taggart
Which we think is crazy, but we literally have American office from the uk.
George Severis
And also, I mean, I mentioned the Mas Singer that was not obviously originally American. Anyway, the point is McDonald's is like the successful kind of American export. Cuz everyone like took it and they were like, wow, this is so cool. We're going to make it our own, right? And it's like. And it's, it's almost. It's like exporting the American dream in the American mythology. And then Burger King is the like steel town that hasn't been able to like export its thing is like, this fucking sucks.
Maggie Winters
Yes. Oh my God.
George Severis
Like, McDonald's is honestly the girl in Nolita ordering black sea bagels, whereas Burger King is at hashtag restaurant.
Maggie Winters
At hashtag restaurant. Oh my God.
Sam Taggart
Oh, that's so sad.
Maggie Winters
In some ways you feel bad, but I will say this is like when I'm in the airport, like, people are at the Burger king. Maybe because McDonald's isn't there.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I mean, that's.
Sam Taggart
It's also like people are at the Burger King because, like, the lines are too long at Starbucks.
Maggie Winters
That is so. And they're very different vibes. Like, yeah, I want fries. I'm like going fries. And burger versus egg bites. Different, different moods. Very different egg bites. I'm a good person that day. Burger King. Yeah. I'm like, I'm slopped. I'm filled. I'm chopp.
George Severis
Should do an UN special. Like the chopped and UN special.
Maggie Winters
If you're chopped and UN come to.
Sam Taggart
Burger King, they should re get 10% off. That'd be nice.
Maggie Winters
They just look at you. They go, yeah.
George Severis
It'S like the door person at a Berlin nightclub. But it's for whether you're chopped and unk enough to order the chop.
Maggie Winters
Fake IDs, guys.
Sam Taggart
Jesus Christ. Wow. I mean, should we. I think we should wrap up, if only because our second guest will be here any. Any second.
Maggie Winters
Oh, I can't wait to see who that is.
George Severis
Gee, and I actually have to write straight shooters for that second episode. Believe it or not.
Maggie Winters
I'm gonna bully whoever it is. Don't. It's Meryl Streep. Just don't tell anybody.
George Severis
It would be amazing if Meryl Streep did straight A Lab.
Sam Taggart
Meryl Streep come on the show.
George Severis
She. I'm sure she's done a podcast. A podcast.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. But.
Sam Taggart
But it was like during the pandemic and it was totally. She was on for like 15 minutes.
Maggie Winters
And it was like a Meryl movies recap. I guess I'll be on it. It's about me.
Sam Taggart
Y.
George Severis
About Julia and Julia.
Maggie Winters
That episode. Oh my gosh.
George Severis
Like, I loved working with Amy Adams.
Sam Taggart
Well, should we do our final set?
George Severis
Yes.
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Hey, what's up?
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High key.
George Severis
Listen to High Key, a new weekly podcast. You better listen. That's literally the definition of being an Aries moon.
Sam Taggart
Just one little spicy off comment, that's.
George Severis
That's all it takes. Everyone loves me at the Cancer and then the Aries comes out and they said, who the is that? No, you're gonna come for me being an Aries and you have a sag moon. Get out of here. But I'm a Capricorn rising, so that honestly balances it out and makes me more likable. Okay, that is your Capricorn talking. Listen to High key on the iHeartRadio.
Sam Taggart
App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get. Get your podcasts. Okay? Our final segment is called Shout Outs. And in this segment we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio Shout out. Shouting out to anything that we enjoy. People, places, things, ideas. We will go first and we make them up on the spot.
George Severis
Yeah, okay, I'll go.
Maggie Winters
Okay.
Sam Taggart
Okay, go.
George Severis
What's up, home cooks? Home chefs? Rather, I want to give a shout out to making a loaf. Make a loaf. It's easy and I would say it's a nice thing to just have in the home. You can go sort of healthy with it and make a kind of a zucchini bread. You can go not healthy with it. We're talking chocolate chips, coconut, whatever you want. It's always easy. It always comes out fine. Yesterday when I had my big brunch I accidentally overcooked mine by 15 minutes. It came out. It was fine.
Sam Taggart
He said 20 came out.
George Severis
It was completely fine. I made a turmeric lemon tea cake by past guest Allison Roman. It was absolutely delicious. And here's what you can do. Order in and just have a homemade dessert, then leftover, that's your breakfast the next day. So pretty much thank me later. Shout out to everyone.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Okay. What is up, freaks, losers, and perverts? This is especially for you. You. I want to give a huge shout out to not being afraid to be the guy writing on a notebook in a bar. I know that this is a shameful person to be, and I know that as soon as you do this, people bring out their pistols and want to shoot at you. But you have to be brave because sometimes when you're having one single drink and maybe a mozzarella stick and you're writing in your notebook, it's actually the nicest thing you can ever do to yourself. And you're like, I'm in heaven. Plus, when you're in a manic state after seeing a beautiful, moving show, sometimes you have to process it however you possibly can before you meet up with people because they will be weirded out and won't be able to connect because they didn't get tickets. So shout out to not being afraid. Shout out to writing in a notebook in a bar. And shout out to Morgan Vasquez's beautiful show. Xoxo, Sam.
George Severis
Woo. Wait, did you go from the show to writing in a bar? That's so sweet, Sam.
Sam Taggart
I went straight to Joel. Julius. I was in heaven.
Maggie Winters
Can you cry? Yeah, I'm bawling.
Sam Taggart
It was crazy.
George Severis
And to do it at Julius, which is a place of such history for the kinds of people that Morgan is talking about.
Sam Taggart
I mean, I'm getting chills.
Maggie Winters
Oh, God.
Sam Taggart
It was really, really, really something. And then my girls, Mike and Ange met up and I said, I'm in heaven. I'm in heaven.
George Severis
I'm opening a gay museum.
Maggie Winters
Speaking of gay. Speaking of gay museums, let me give a big shout out to the little guy. The big girls and the crying, theys. This is DJ Maggie Winters, and I'm here to give a huge shout out to night showers because in the city of New York, you're sweating in a way that you never knew was possible. And you did shower before you left. But then you get home, you go, why are my arms dripping wet? I'm gonna get in the shower, scrub it down, get into bed. And some of you are Thinking I already shower at night. Good for you. That wasn't my journey, but now I kind of am. And I'm feeling lush, beautiful. I'm not feel. Feeling chopped or uncle. So I'm constantly listening to. Is it Audrey? Hobart? Hobert. Who's the Clown? Okay, you guys need to get with it immediately. You guys are both chopped. The knock for that one.
Sam Taggart
We're not listening to a clown.
George Severis
My mind is, like, blank.
Maggie Winters
Audrey Hilbert.
George Severis
I don't know what that is.
Maggie Winters
What is do me. I want to be wanted. Are you guys serious?
George Severis
She's a singer.
Maggie Winters
She's a singer. She's, like, kind of all over New York City. She's kind of, like, singing songs left and right. And she just came out with an album, who's the Clown? And I'm, like, listening to it nonstop.
George Severis
Who's the Clown?
Maggie Winters
That's what it's called.
Sam Taggart
Oh, don't do a. Who's on First?
Maggie Winters
Actually asking that too.
George Severis
And is she a trained clown?
Maggie Winters
No, she's like.
Sam Taggart
So this isn't about clowning, it's about music.
Maggie Winters
She's kind of.
George Severis
I think she's a pop singer.
Maggie Winters
Who's the Clown? Like, who's the j. I'm literally looking.
Sam Taggart
Up, who's the Clown? Actually, Aubrey Ho. Oh, sure. I've seen people talk about this.
Maggie Winters
So I went, like, distant. Are you guys on Tik Tok at all or. A little.
Sam Taggart
Like, very little.
Maggie Winters
That's actually awesome. You shouldn't. It's, like, a bad place to be. But, like, her music's good, and it's kind of for girl who's kind of like, okay, that's us. Yeah, you guys are kind of girl.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, that's kind of us.
Maggie Winters
I can't believe I said that. You guys looked at me, like, making up.
George Severis
No, I was like, which.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I just felt.
George Severis
I was like, which lever do I pull to be shot? Catapulted into space? Because I'm embarrassed.
Maggie Winters
No, I'm embarrassed. I'm millennial. I'm millennial. Are you guys millennial?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Maggie Winters
I'm just kidding. I knew you were.
Sam Taggart
Shut up.
Maggie Winters
I knew you. Come on.
George Severis
Are you guys chopped?
Maggie Winters
Instead of asking someone their sign, you say, are you guys chopped? Like, what's going on? No, I'm young.
Sam Taggart
No, I'm young as fuck.
Maggie Winters
I met someone, 22. I had to walk away.
Sam Taggart
No, it's really. It's like, I respect you, but, like, we shouldn't be talking.
Maggie Winters
Right? Like, I don't want to know anything you're thinking and, like, I don't want.
Sam Taggart
You to know what I'm thinking.
Maggie Winters
Like, yeah, but shout out to them and I'm sure they're doing great. And like, I hope you guys are in bed by now because it's.
George Severis
I don't. You always think, like, that's what we were like at 22. Like, it's just. And someone was at every point that you thought you were coming across as like mature to an older person. They were basically humoring you.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Well, that's almost why I don't want to talk to them because I'm like, I know. Like if you are like a standin for me at that age, I'm like, like, I know what I was like. And I was a nightmare.
Maggie Winters
The way I dressed. I would. First of all, I was wearing my mom's clothes. Cuz again, torrid was not there for me. I was wearing my mom's office clothes to the club. Like, not the club. I didn't go to the club. I'm too tall for that kind of stuff.
Sam Taggart
Like the bar hitting up sidetracks with your gay guys.
Maggie Winters
I was sometimes, but I was wearing like capris. Like it was not good. Like, I can't believe I didn't start dressing good until maybe five years ago.
Sam Taggart
Pandemic.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, pandemic. I said I'm changing who I am.
George Severis
You're suddenly wearing hedgehog Balenciaga at home doing zoom comedy shows.
Maggie Winters
The black.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, you're dressed like.
George Severis
Well, the black sheer I have seen specifically more and more recently.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, it's a real thing. I mean, I. Maybe it's a comment on how we're preparing for war.
George Severis
There's something about black shoe where I'm also like, suddenly I find myself stuff being like, okay, so what exact hair patterns and moles do you have? Like, because it's right. It's right there and it's a little blurred.
Sam Taggart
Well, I'm also like, what happens when you eat like a big meal?
George Severis
What do you mean?
Sam Taggart
Like, and you're like feeling bloated and then you're like in this like tight black shear.
Maggie Winters
Honey, those people aren't eating big meals. And I gotta tell you that right now. They're not eating big meals. Don't you think?
Sam Taggart
No, that's so true.
Maggie Winters
Big meals. They are not eating big meals.
George Severis
Yeah, you're asking the wrong question. So when you go to Pen Pizza Hut, they're like, no.
Sam Taggart
Well, like that. That feeling when you get really hungry and eat a really big meal and then your stomach hurts and you're like.
Maggie Winters
I love that. You brought life to them, but that's not happening. Yeah. When they go to Trader Joe's, they're buying the seaweed, which, like, some of us are. But sure, sure.
Sam Taggart
They sell it for a reason.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
George Severis
Seaweed to me, is crazy. Like, if it's available as a free snack in an office, maybe I'll snack on it. It. But the concept of someone putting it on their grocery list freaks me out. I'm like, you need to.
Maggie Winters
You need to remember the Emily Maro Bowl.
George Severis
The what?
Maggie Winters
Emily Maro Bowl.
George Severis
Yes.
Maggie Winters
People were going crazy for seaweed. They were scooping the salmon and.
George Severis
But at least there was, like, mayo in that.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, that was like a dish.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah.
Maggie Winters
Or just.
George Severis
But I agree with. But it. I just like it. Really. To me, it's only an office snack.
Maggie Winters
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm not an office.
George Severis
I'm not in the office.
Sam Taggart
I'm out.
George Severis
I'm working from home.
Maggie Winters
Wfa.
George Severis
I'm out of office. I identify as out of office. It's not like a temporary state for me.
Maggie Winters
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
I will not be responding to emails.
Maggie Winters
No.
George Severis
Maggie, where can people find you and see you? And you can't announce your new podcast?
Maggie Winters
I.
Sam Taggart
Well, we can cut it if you want to announce it, and then we can cut it if it's not allowed.
Maggie Winters
Yeah. Okay. So it's going to. It's called literally life changing. Literally life changing with Maggie Winters. And it's just about, like, things that change your life. Because I'm always kind of like, on TikTok being, like, what will change my life? And it's like, so I want to know.
George Severis
So you're asking guests what changed your life or what?
Maggie Winters
What's something that's literally life changing to you? And it could be like. And they're all like, I started wearing pants. Yeah. No, that, like, I'm waiting for someone to be like, sobriety, and then someone else is like a coffee, and it's like. That's fun.
George Severis
Wait, that's a really good idea for a question.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, that's fun.
George Severis
What would mine be?
Maggie Winters
Well, you guys come on when we're on separately. Well, you got to come back.
Sam Taggart
Just kidding.
George Severis
Just kidding. Yeah. No.
Sam Taggart
Why is that inherently a joke?
George Severis
Hello. We have our own personalities.
Sam Taggart
That was weird. Yeah.
Maggie Winters
No, I. I wanted you guys to know that I like, like twins. I wanted you guys to be like, separately. All right. You're actually. You'll come on. But you went. You can find me at Saggyslinters. Saggy with ie. Someone did come up to me and say, are you sagey splinters? And I said, well it is saggy like Maggie and I'm doing a show. I'm doing a couple shows in New York. I'll post about them on my Instagram period. And that's about it.
George Severis
Love that.
Sam Taggart
Well, yeah, this has been a delight.
Maggie Winters
Thank you guys so much for having me. I can come back. Oh my God, that's so much.
Sam Taggart
So fun.
George Severis
Thanks for coming.
Maggie Winters
I love being in the lab. Bye.
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Hosts: George Civeris & Sam Taggart | Guest: Maggie Winters
A Big Money Players Network & iHeartPodcasts production
In this vibrant, offbeat episode, comedians and hosts George Civeris and Sam Taggart are joined by the exuberant Maggie Winters to unpack Burger King as an axis of "straight culture." The trio careen through tales of New York vs. Chicago, the churn of queer community, the oddities of trend cycles, and the lingering weirdness of themed fast food. With their trademark blend of satirical reverence and absurd digression, they take Burger King’s brand essence apart and, in the process, contemplate what it means to be “straight,” “chopped,” and “unk” in 2025.
On the random churn of NYC gay social scenes:
George’s hosting anxieties:
Maggie’s plus-size modeling story:
On trend fatigue:
Why new slang feels suspect:
Burger King as heteropessimism:
On the difference between types of fast food branding:
The episode ends with a round of playful “shout outs” to making loaves, writing in a bar, and the transcendent beauty of (NYC) night showers. Maggie provides a recommendation: singer Aubrey Hobart’s album “Who’s the Clown”—prompting a moment of generational confusion. The hosts and Maggie wrap, bonded by their shared, ironic millennial sensibility and the subtle melancholy of being—well, chopped, unk, and perhaps a little bit BK.
“Inside all of us, there’s a McDonald’s and a Burger King. There’s a part of you that wants to strive and dream big, and there’s a part of you that’s like, you piece of shit, you don’t deserve anything. And that’s the Burger King.”
—Sam Taggart, [75:55]
Tone: Self-aware, satirical, sharply observant, and fondly absurd—exactly as queer culture demands.
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