"Fishing" w/ Monét X Change

Summary

StraightioLab "Fishing" w/ Monét X Change – Oct 28, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of StraightioLab, hosted by George Civeris and Sam Taggart, features iconic drag queen and comedian Monét X Change. Together, they unravel the straightness of the pastime “fishing” while detouring through drag discourse, queer fame, fashion, dating, and the eternal debate of lakes vs. oceans. Expect trademark wit, delightfully unfiltered anecdotes, and plenty of queering of straight traditions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Podcast Beef” Economy

• Opening Banter (02:35 – 04:35): George and Sam riff on podcasting’s competitive landscape, joking about manufactured "beefs" à la Hollywood PR stunts for mutual clout.

• Monét on Drag Race Drama (04:12): Sam asks if Drag Race queens strategically start fights for publicity. Monét insists most queens are too self-centered for that and the fandom is too intense, taking everything to heart.

  "Drag queens are so narcissistic and self-centered. They think that they're the one... I don't need to start no beef with no bitch because I am that girl."
  — Monét X Change [04:23]

2. The Problematic Passion of Drag Race Fandom

• Fan Reactions: Monét discusses how serious fans get about drama between queens—way past playful banter, sometimes fueling toxic discourse.

• Calls for RuPaul’s “Bad Girls Club”: Monét jokingly lobbies for a physical fight on Drag Race, suggesting it might finally net the show another Emmy [05:54].

  "Y'all give the girls alcohol during the day and get us a physical fight on Drag Race?"
  — Monét X Change [06:28]

• The Emmy Joke & Alcohol Limits: The hosts discuss, with shock, that Drag Race limits queens to just two drinks during filming—unlike Real Housewives, who are allegedly “blacked out” [07:38].

  "Everything you’re seeing, they’re not even—they haven’t even had one martini."
  — George Civeris [07:31]

3. The Microcosms of Queer and Mainstream Culture

• Podcast Rivalries & Weight Classes: The group jokes about which podcasts are in their "weight class" and who they could feasibly feud with for mutual benefit [08:28].
• Straight vs. Queer Nostalgia: The conversation pivots to straight-coded objects marketed to men, like “dude wipes” and “female pens” and why gendered marketing is ridiculous [14:32 – 15:13].
• Fashion Week and Queer Self-Image (17:13): Monét laments how underwhelming Fashion Week is—even for celebrities like Beyoncé—and how queerness in public spaces often means performing against expectations.

4. Rules, Etiquette, and Social Technology

• If Drag Race Winners Could Make Laws…: The group fantasizes about reality winners getting to pass one law. Monét chooses "universal regulations on who can ask for tips after a service" [12:04].

• Legalizing Polite Correction: They wish for a law that requires people to notify you if you have food in your teeth, and discuss the awkwardness of such social interactions [21:48].

  "We don't have the correct language to be like, I'm correcting you lovingly."
  — Sam Taggart [22:08]

• The Handkerchief: Monét calls for its comeback as an elegant solution to food-in-beard mishaps [25:09].

5. The Preparedness Paradox in Kink & Sex

• “Preparedness Kills The Mood”: The group riffs on the idea that too much planning “kills the vibe” in both public health (COVID) and in sex/kink (like when a hookup has tarps down for water sports) [30:35 – 32:13].
• Product Placement for Kinky Sheets: They mock Instagram ads for washable “sex blankets,” noting it would still ruin the décor [33:01].

6. Mainstream Queer Fame and Dating

• Drag Race as “Lizzo’s Pass” (39:15): The group coins “Lizzo’s Pass”—the career crossroads between going mainstream (Target) or staying cool/alternative (Pitchfork)—and applies it to drag artists who must choose between subculture cred and broad appeal.

  • Monét reflects on the evolution of drag from NYC club culture into Drag Race’s mainstream lens, and the subsequent challenges of dating as a “gay famous” person [42:36].

  "Being gay famous...can be a little like, God. I'm like, baby, go get the TriMix, go get the pills. Take that Viagra and let's get to work."
  — Monét X Change [43:49]

• Gay Cruises, Phones, and Yonder Pouches: Monét likens being a Drag Race queen on a gay cruise to being “Mickey Mouse on Disney cruise” [44:05]. The group dreams of enforced phone-free zones for true rest.

7. Straight Culture Deep Dive: Fishing

• What Makes Fishing “Straight”? (50:13): The hosts and Monét unpack fishing’s cultural associations: marketed as manly, fathers-day coded, and tied up in “catch of the day” masculinity—yet Monét’s family history in St. Lucia subverts those tropes (her mom and aunts fished).

  "...fishing is... adopted as straight people buy their thing, especially straight men. And I just hate that."
  — Monét X Change [50:38]

• Types of Fishing: Rich, Rural, Dirty: Sam and George contrast “Oakley-wearing, boat-owning Republicans” with the pond-and-mud variety of fishing, exploring how wealth, regionalism, and masculinity intersect [53:33-53:58].

• Fishing as Queer Reflection: For Sam, fishing is as much about calm reflection as it is about violence to fish—a queering of the narrative [51:34-52:32].

• Lake vs. Ocean Debates: The panel gets heated about whether Lake Michigan counts as a “beach,” with Monét defending the ocean [56:09-56:33]. George tells of being injured by a wave at Fire Island, while Monét demands mermaids be real (“it’s just not fair they don’t exist!”) [71:39 – 71:44].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Drag Race fans are Goldilocks. It's too mean, it's too nice, it's too hot...They cannot find a happy medium besides just enjoying television and let it be television." — Monét X Change [05:26]
• "If you don't do that, then you're accused of being boring and of not having enough personality." — George Civeris [05:17]
• “Bring back the handkerchief. Our generation has forgotten the handkerchief. We need to bring it back.” — Monét X Change [25:09]
• "Honestly, the last season, when Lexi came back and realized her garment had been spray painted...I was praying, praying for her [to start a fight]." — Monét X Change [07:02]
• "I want there to be a physical fight on Drag Race....the Drag Race Bad Girls Club." — Monét X Change [05:54]
• "I liked fishing and there was something reflective about it. But then as soon as the fish was there on the hook, I was like, ew, ew, ew! And like, my dad would have to, like, take it off." — Sam Taggart [52:04]
• "If you are above 6'2, I don't care if you look like the bottom of my shoe, I will suck your dick. I am just into tall people." — Monét X Change [59:47]
• "Our generation has forgotten a lot." — George Civeris [25:12]
• "Gay cruise...you are Mickey Mouse on a Disney cruise." — Monét X Change [44:05]
• "Time is Monet." — Monet X Change [73:52]

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Important Segments with Timestamps

• Podcast Beef, Manufactured Feuds: [02:35–04:35]
• Drag Race Drama Dynamic: [04:12–06:28]
• Preparedness Paradox in Sex: [30:35–32:13]
• Lizzo’s Pass Explained: [39:15–40:21]
• Regulating Tipping Law: [12:04–12:41]
• Dating and Gay Fame: [42:36–44:36]
• Fishing: Masculine or Not?: [50:13–52:06]
• Lake vs. Ocean—The Chicago Beach Debate: [56:09–56:33]
• Big & Tall Attraction Confession: [59:47]
• Queer Fishing Trip Proposition: [70:30–71:09]
• Fantasy: If Mermaids Were Real: [71:39–72:39]

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Straight Shooters Segment (Rapid Fire Q&A)

(28:36–31:13):

• Monét favors "One kiss is all it takes" over "Son, this is a huge mistake."
• “Hung like a horse or black lung?” — Monét: “Honestly, black lung. I like kissing a smoker.” [29:05]
• Hilarity ensues when Monét recounts a sexual encounter involving tarps and water sports, segueing to a discussion on the unsexiness of over-preparedness. [29:38]

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Final Shout Outs

• George: Penises as sight gags in films, advocating for less prosthetics and more authenticity. [77:17]
• Sam: His boring but classic loafers that have aged into style, encouraging listeners to trust their taste. [78:49]
• Monét: To all plant parents nurturing their green babies (despite her own irrigation mishap). [80:04]
• Tour plug: Monét is on tour—details at monetxchange.com/live [80:42]

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Tone & Language

• Wry, self-aware, unapologetically queer. The hosts and guest riff fluidly between thoughtful analysis and raunchy one-liners.
• Camaraderie + affectionate ribbing: All three comedians lean into camp, call out one another’s quirks, and champion queer found family values.
• Cultural critique delivered as stand-up routine: Both conversational and witty, with social commentary masked in jokes.

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Summary

Monét X Change joins StraightioLab for a hilarious and incisive look at fishing as a coded straight pastime, asking why it’s gendered and how queerness rewrites straight traditions—even something as simple as catching a fish. Along the way, the trio delves into drag culture’s mainstreaming, the paradoxes of fame, queering fashion, social etiquette, and their complicated relationship with both bodies of water and bodies in general. The episode is a tapestry of jokes, vulnerable confessions, and meta-cultural observations—delivered at breakneck pace and never taking anything, least of all themselves, too seriously.

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Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Sam Taggart]

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[George Severis]

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[Monet X Change]

I hate to say it, but I.

[George Severis]

Don'T trust much of anything.

[Monet X Change]

It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Sam Taggart]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Sam Taggart]

Fireworks in the fourth quarter.

[Monet X Change]

Then in week 11, Jaden Daniels and the Commanders take down Face Tua and the Dolphins in Madrid. Snooze off. Game on. It's Sunday morning Football continues November 9th at 9:30 Eastern only on NFL Network.

[Sam Taggart]

Podcast starts now.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Sam Taggart]

What's up, everyone? You're listening to Stradio Lab in New York City, the last of a string of gorgeous recordings.

[George Severis]

String of gorgeous recordings. I mean, I'm sorry, but it's like who else is doing Julio Torres, Adam Friedland, Monet X Change? I don't. I would like to know.

[Sam Taggart]

No, I just want to know.

[George Severis]

I'm curious because I'm not. I've listened to these other girls.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm just not privy.

[George Severis]

I haven't heard of anyone doing it like we are. I'm open to write in suggestions.

[Sam Taggart]

This is an amazing thing you're doing. Do you think we need to start a beef?

[George Severis]

Oh, well, I think we need to do something. Is the answer to your question because the stocks are tumbling.

[Sam Taggart]

Stocks are tumbling.

[George Severis]

Stocks are tumbling. They've never been lower. This is sort of like when everyone bought GameStop and then sold it.

[Sam Taggart]

You know how like in the 50s or whatever. Like, and maybe even now a publicist would be like, hey, so you are actually going to date this actress because you both have movies coming out and like, just do it for a year. And like, then you're like, it's going to be, it's going to help everybody. I think we need agents for beefs. We need to be like, I want to set up a beef with another podcast that is like going to be mutually beneficial and like, just for a year. Like, so you guys can like post how much you hate them. They'll post how much I hate you and both of you will become wildly successful from it.

[George Severis]

I'm. What?

[Sam Taggart]

Sorry, I have an amazing question for our guest, but we can't bring her in yet. I have an amazing question. Fuck. Okay. Can we bring her in? Yeah.

[George Severis]

Yeah, let's bring her in. Please.

[Sam Taggart]

Welcome to the podcast Monet X Change.

[Monet X Change]

Bring me in.

[Sam Taggart]

Yes, I just had a genius thought. Unfortunately. Yes, unfortunately, sometimes you can't choose when you have a genius thought. It strikes you.

[Monet X Change]

I had my. On the, on the toilet a lot. Yeah, I think a lot.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, I'm going to the bathroom right now.

[George Severis]

When?

[Sam Taggart]

Okay. So when Drag Race girls fight.

[Monet X Change]

Uh huh.

[Sam Taggart]

Do you ever think like this is going to be mutually beneficial? Like, are you ever like, I got to get the girls talking about me, so I'm going to start a fight?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I don't think so because I think drag queens are so narcissistic and self. And self centered. They think that they are the one. They think that I don't need to start no beef with no bitch because I am that girl. I was like, you're not. You went home third and you're not that girl. You know, So I don't think they intentionally start them. Also, the Drag Race fans take it so seriously.

[Sam Taggart]

Sure.

[Monet X Change]

That when girls fight they're like, ugh. And like, it's like literally like name calling on Twitter and they're like, ugh, I can't believe the fandom acts like this. And they, they get, they get so up and they get so butthurt up when girls have little tits back and forth. Like Willem and Mistress Isabel Brooks had a whole thing. Even how Mistress got on, on the show. People were so. The fans were so up in arms. Like she is Such a conniving, nasty troll. I can't believe she would treat and talk to people and like, girl, it's fucking. Oh, it's kind of cursed.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Fucking television. Like, please. So, yeah, I don't think that the fans will be.

[George Severis]

Well, because then if you don't do that, then you're accused of being boring and of not having enough personality. So, like, you gotta, like, pick one thing. Like, dragons to me is like, gold.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. Drag Race fans are Goldilocks. Like, they just. It's too mean, it's too nice, it's too hot. They. They cannot find a happy medium besides just enjoying television and let it be television. It's insane.

[Sam Taggart]

It is insane. I think going forward, maybe there should be some deals made before you start.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, for sure. I mean, I am petitioning. I am actively. Maybe I should start a. What was that thing when you walk around people and make people sign a petition? Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I want there to be a physical fight on Drag Race. I am waiting. I want it to be the Drag Race Bad Girls Club. I want someone to hit. Take a steaming machine and hit someone and is become a physical fight in the set. I mean, I would love it.

[Sam Taggart]

That would be so amazing. I mean, we do just need sort of of like RuPaul's death match. Like, we do need like a sort of like boxing night or something.

[Monet X Change]

Bring that back.

[Sam Taggart]

It would be so fun.

[George Severis]

I mean, it would be amazing if there was, like, they were in the workroom. Everyone's having, like, a fight, like a verbal fight. People are reading one another, and then suddenly one of them is like. And then just punches it.

[Monet X Change]

Could you imagine? I mean, they keep on losing the Emmy. Y' all give the girls alcohol during the day and get us a physical fight on Drag Race. And we, as the. As loyal fans of the show, pressure our voting people in the Academy to give Drag Race another Emmy again.

[George Severis]

I want to see Hormonalisa literally slapping someone across the face and then tripping them so they fall on their back.

[Sam Taggart]

God, I want it so bad.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Like, honestly, the last season when Lexi came back from outside and she realized her garment had been spray painted on.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I thought, like. Cause I was doing the pits out watching it. And the producers were like, this episode gets really wild. I'm like, how wild? They're like, girl, really wild. I was like, we're gonna see a fight. And I was like, it's gonna be a fight. They're like, girl. Just when I saw her come back in the steam that was coming out of her ears, I was like, oh, she's gonna hit her. Of course it didn't happen, but I was praying, praying for her.

[George Severis]

Well, you do raise an interesting point with the alcohol, because something people forget about the Real Housewives is that they're all blacked out drunk.

[Monet X Change]

Hello.

[George Severis]

And everything that's happening. And this is a testament to how great of a show Drag Race is. They're all sober, so everything you're seeing, they're not even. They haven't even had one martini.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. When it does get close, it's because they're in on tux, where you do get drinks. But what y' all don't know is that they limit your drinking.

[Sam Taggart]

How many you get?

[Monet X Change]

Two.

[George Severis]

Oh, that's my thing.

[Sam Taggart]

You're barely getting started.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly. And I'm a tank girl. It takes me at least. At least six vodka sodas to feel something. Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, they're on an empty stomach.

[Monet X Change]

I have to hope this is true, because you are on an empty stomach. But still. It's still. And I feel like they, too, watered down. Although RuPaul had the. He has those House of Love cocktails.

[Sam Taggart]

Uh huh.

[Monet X Change]

The tangerine margarita, baby. 2 RuPaul's House of Love Tangerine margaritas will get you right.

[Sam Taggart]

Really?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. They did something with the measurements and the algorithm on that drink that really got it got you fucked up.

[George Severis]

It's great.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, that's amazing to know.

[Monet X Change]

And y' all want a podcast beef. I mean, please beef with civil rivalry so we can stop fighting each other.

[Sam Taggart]

I know. Oh, my God, we would love to beef with you. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, we're down.

[George Severis]

Although. But. No, but you would win. Sorry. But it's like. Well, that's true. We need someone a little bit.

[Sam Taggart]

We need someone in our weight class.

[George Severis]

In our weight class. Because I do feel like we can't really, really be going up against, like, Drag Race girls. Like, and, like, the top ones. Like, it's like, I'll beef with Harmona. Although I just want to say congrats to her. I think she either got engaged or both.

[Monet X Change]

I think both. Yeah. I think.

[George Severis]

Okay, literally, who's doing it like that?

[Monet X Change]

I know, right? And, like, her, like, cute little fiance.

[George Severis]

The reason I keep mentioning her is because I love her. Like, I. It's not. Of course.

[Monet X Change]

It seems a little. Your tone seems a little pointed every.

[George Severis]

Time I want to say I love her and I want to be in a beef with her. Like, I think she And I are like.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, it's like when you have a crush on someone, so you're, like, a little mean.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I feel that.

[George Severis]

Yeah. And I just love. I love how, like, domestic and normal she is.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[George Severis]

She's just, like, a girl.

[Sam Taggart]

She's just really random.

[Monet X Change]

She's just at home baking cookies, you know, with her fiance. Like, it's like very trad wife vibes.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Like, Harmona Lisa is the Nara Smith of Drag Race.

[Sam Taggart]

You know what I mean?

[George Severis]

Yes. Literally, she's running the PTA, like the Army.

[Monet X Change]

100%. Yeah. I like her a lot.

[George Severis]

So. But I think we can maybe be in a feud with someone even, like, more serious, like the Daily Terry Gross. Terry Gross. I would love Ezra Klein. I would love to be in a feud with Ezra Klein.

[Sam Taggart]

I don't know.

[George Severis]

Ezra Klein is, like, a political commentator. He recently came under fire because he's.

[Sam Taggart]

Like, the Hormona Lisa of the New York Times.

[George Severis]

Yes. Okay, interesting. But way more.

[Monet X Change]

Paint a picture.

[George Severis]

Way more successful, though. It's like, what if. It's like, get this. What if Hormona won? Oh, can you imagine a world like that?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[George Severis]

And again, I see this as a fan, but imagine if Ramona won, and it's like, then we would have to all sort of be like, okay, so what is my opinion about this? Where do I stand on the fact that Hormona won rupaul's Drag Race? Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Do I still support Drag Race?

[Monet X Change]

Do I still support Drag Race? Like, do I unsubscribe?

[George Severis]

And again, as one of Harmona's biggest fans, it's like, I like her because she's an underdog. Would I like her if she won? I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I know if Harmona.

[Sam Taggart]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

I'm trying to think of the Drag Race cinematic universe where Harmona Lisa wins Drag Race. What would the world be?

[George Severis]

Well, I'll tell you one thing. Kamala would have won.

[Sam Taggart]

And what I was going to say, which I actually think still works, there would be Civil War.

[Monet X Change]

Civil War.

[George Severis]

Kamala's president. There's Civil War. And Kamala, like, keeps not doing good enough speeches to end the Civil War.

[Monet X Change]

But they're goofy. And she always ends with that laugh. That laugh, for sure. Oh, my God. So I just used the restroom in this building. Yeah. And, baby, the budget is up because the public restrooms have bidets on them.

[George Severis]

I saw that, too. They have bidets on them.

[Monet X Change]

They have bidets on them.

[George Severis]

They have little tushy bidets. Maybe they're a sponsor out here.

[Sam Taggart]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

On the public bathroom, everybody sitting they ass on. That is nice.

[Sam Taggart]

See, when you set the budget up, I was like, we went to different bathrooms because when I went in there, it felt like a Mortal Kombat level. There's, like, the light is flickering. Like, there's like, random danger.

[George Severis]

Which actually makes the bidet seem even more creepy. Cause you're like, well, I don't want that water.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, exactly. Shooting up myself.

[George Severis]

Shooting up myself.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh, my God. A bidet in the public restroom. Is this Japan?

[Sam Taggart]

I literally. It's about time. It's about time.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, I think that would be harmonious for us to act as a bidets everywhere days. Everywhere.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, well, that's a random.

[George Severis]

And maybe that would solve the civil war.

[Sam Taggart]

They should let drag race winners make one law.

[George Severis]

I agree.

[Sam Taggart]

Just one law.

[Monet X Change]

But is it only for the queer community or is for everyone?

[Sam Taggart]

For everyone, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[George Severis]

What would your law be?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, what would your big lobby?

[Monet X Change]

Mine have been. I think mine would have been to. Oh, universal regulations on who can ask for tips after service.

[George Severis]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

Because I am. The other day, I went to my dry cleaner and I picked up a pair of pants, and he swiveled that damn iPad at me and said, tip. I said, baby, tip for what? Tip for what? And then, because I felt prayer pressure, I'm like, oh, my God.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Look at you being like some fucking 1% raggedy bitch. I was like, I tipped in $5.

[George Severis]

I tipped my dry cleaner too.

[Monet X Change]

I tipped in $5 on a $10 thing. I was like, I just paid $15 for these pants. This is crazy.

[Sam Taggart]

I have a. I mean, yes, that's an amazing law and genius. I went to. I have to say, I went to a dry cleaner, like, slash tailor recently for something. I. I got leather chaps off of. I got them off of ebay. They're like vintage leather chaps. They're way too long, though. And I was like. But I was like, okay, so I have to get them tailored. I was like, where could I possibly go? So then I had to go to, like, this, like, random man and be like. He's like, oh, what are those? I'm like, oh, they're leather chaps. And he's like, do you want to put them on and I'll show you how. And he's like, what are you gonna use them for? And I was like, I don't know. Like, I was like. The way I was pretending.

[Monet X Change]

What do they use them for?

[George Severis]

Is a crazy thing.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna wear them. Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

But it was also, like, I had to, like, literally pretend I don't know what they are. Like, I was like, I don't know. They're weird pants I found.

[Monet X Change]

She'd be like, I'm a cowboy, and I am going to ride my goat.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. Like, just tell him something.

[Sam Taggart]

It was so shitty.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you accosting me with all these questions about my. About my articles?

[George Severis]

I'm here to pay you.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly.

[George Severis]

And possibly why am I under attack? I might tip.

[Sam Taggart]

I wanted.

[George Severis]

It looks like I'm not getting a tip on the iPad anymore.

[Sam Taggart]

I want an anonymous experience.

[George Severis]

This is like, how, you know when they do ads for, like, him is they're like, not. Don't have that awkward conversation with your doctor.

[Sam Taggart]

Just, like, get online.

[Monet X Change]

You know, Every time I see it, when I'm on the subway especially, I see the ads, I'm like, like, should I get him? So are they a daily multivitamin?

[George Severis]

I think they have different products.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, okay.

[George Severis]

I think it's anything. Imagine, like, a really insecure straight man. Anything they might want. So there's. There's hair loss, there's erectile dysfunction. There's like, general vitamins. General vitamins. Which, again, for a man to consume them, they have to be marketed as four men. Otherwise, he's like, well, what am I got it right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Oh, it's kind of like, dude, wipes.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like, you're paying roughly 2. $2.50 more.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

For baby wipes.

[George Severis]

Yeah. Or it's like how a deodorant. The. The scent is stainless steel.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[George Severis]

It's like, why don't you want to smell like lavender? Hello. That's an example of a positive scent. Like, a scent that people like.

[Monet X Change]

There's also the thing that they. I saw the other day at. At the cvs, there are. Have you ever seen this female penny. Female pen?

[George Severis]

I have seen female earplugs.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[George Severis]

Which is my favorite. It's just literally, like, four women. And they're pink.

[Sam Taggart]

What made the pen female?

[Monet X Change]

They were pink.

[Sam Taggart]

They were pink.

[Monet X Change]

They were female pens, and they were. I clocked this up. It was a dollar and 20 cents more for the female big pen, as opposed to just a regular big pen.

[Sam Taggart]

I think one of my great shames is that, like, when I go into a thrift store, I'm always like, just which way's the men's? Like, I like. I'm like, I'm not looking at the Women's. No, I'm like, and this is for men, right?

[Monet X Change]

It's like.

[Sam Taggart]

I don't know why. It always is like, my big thing that I'm like, just to be clear.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

If I found, like, a women's shirt that I liked, I would wear it. But it does. But I. For some reason, I'm like, I'm not trying to.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Sam Taggart]

It's weird.

[Monet X Change]

My favorite thing, I walk into an anthropology or something in Iowa and my big black ass. I walked anthropology, and I'd be right at the dresses. I'd be like, I'm a size 10. And everyone's like, for who? I'm like, for me, bitch.

[George Severis]

Some prairie dress.

[Monet X Change]

A girl literally trying the most ridiculous things I would never wear. Cause I'm not even an anthropology kind of girl. But just to fuck with the system, I'd walk in there with my big wide back, and I would shove that dress over these big ass shoulders, and I would step out in the mirror, like, ugh. And just pose and luxuriate in the moment. Love it.

[George Severis]

You're doing something that I've always wished I could pull off, which is blazer with rolled up sleeves.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, totally.

[Monet X Change]

This is my first time attempting this. Really?

[George Severis]

It looks really good. And I always have thought it so chic, but I actually tried doing the other day and I didn't. It didn't work for me.

[Monet X Change]

Really? I feel like you could pull that off.

[George Severis]

Thank you.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I think the kind of blazer is.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah. No, that has to be a little oversized.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

[George Severis]

Because it can also read weirdly feminine. Not that that's a bad thing, but it can. It can read feminine in the sense that you're like, oh, I'm like, I'm Emrata and I'm so skinny.

[Monet X Change]

I have to roll the sleeves of this blazer.

[George Severis]

And I love Emrata.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. But I just don't want to.

[George Severis]

She's the hormonalista of.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I want the. On the modeling thing. Like, I feel like when it's Fashion Week, I open my social media and, like, I see. I find out all these and say that.

[George Severis]

What's going on there?

[Monet X Change]

I know. Where were our invites? Like, I like, okay, I did Fashion Week two years ago. I got invited to Fashion Week in New York. When I disappear, I'm not invited or anything. It was the worst experience of my life. Like, the shows are just. It's so busy. It's so many people. And when I saw a social media clip of Beyonce going to see her Nephew Walker fashion show, and she was crushed up in the thing. People will push. I was like, oh, there's literally no hope for me. And that's how it was. Everyone is pushing you. You're sitting like this. You're uncomfortable. I'm a core sick. Like, went in drag. Another mistake, and it was awful. I said, oh, my God, I never want to do this again.

[George Severis]

I think it's humbling for everyone. It's, like, designed to bring you down, even if you are Beyonce.

[Sam Taggart]

Literally.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it was. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would. I mean, I would love to do, like, the European one. Like, go to, like, Milan. Milan and go to, like, the Schiaparelli show. And, like, that sounds like that. But here I was looking at J. Crew. I'm like, I don't care about no damn J.

[George Severis]

Crew.

[Monet X Change]

But, yeah, well, no offense, J. Crew, if you want to have me again.

[Sam Taggart]

No, this.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you so much for inviting me.

[George Severis]

I would actually prefer a gift card. J. Crew. Honestly, I don't need to go to a fashion show.

[Sam Taggart]

Honestly, we keep doing this thing where we are, like, we mentioned J. Crew, like, three episodes ago, and we were, like, going off about, like, well, we don't love J.

[George Severis]

Crew. No, we actually do.

[Sam Taggart]

And it's like, actually, we do. Like, J. Crew is a message to you. We're in.

[Monet X Change]

We're in.

[Sam Taggart]

Whatever it is, we're in.

[George Severis]

Go. Yeah, no, I was. No, no, no. I'm thinking of fashion Week because I. It is one of those things that I both, you know, when you both want to be invited to the party but also resent it. It's like, I like being on the sidelines, being like, you dumbasses. But I'm also like, I want to be there.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Also, we're at a time where you, like, see, like, you know, obviously, shit is crazy. And you're like, oh, my God. And, you know, I'm like, fuck the system, fuck capitalism, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, but I'm. We're participating, and I would totally go to the fashion show, you know?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. It'd be so nice to have gone, like, four years in a row and then be like, this year, I can't do it.

[George Severis]

Totally.

[Sam Taggart]

That's the fantasy.

[George Severis]

That's literally. It's like, how I feel about the.

[Monet X Change]

Just for Laughs festival. Oh, my God.

[George Severis]

Like, well, I've been there. I've done that. And, you know, good for you. Like, all the young people are going.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, I see how it's good to go to. But it's just not really for me right now.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I've done a few of those. They're fine. They're cute.

[George Severis]

No, they're fun.

[Sam Taggart]

They're fun.

[George Severis]

And it's a great.

[Sam Taggart]

Just not for us.

[George Severis]

Right? It's a great way to. It's a great way to check in about budgets because it's like, some years there's an open bar at the party. Some years you have to literally go and find an ex, find, like, a manager or agent so that they can buy you a drink on the account.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[George Severis]

That's crazy.

[Sam Taggart]

That was bleak. We went the year, the most recent time was like, the strikes were happening. So I think there was, like, something up with, like, the sponsors, where they were, like, it would be unethical to sponsor this or something.

[George Severis]

There was something so literally, like, the.

[Sam Taggart]

One sponsor was like, a lighting company. Like, it was like.

[George Severis]

Yeah. Whereas the first time I went, which was probably like, 2017, 2018. I walk in Jerry Seinfeld. Like, you know, every famous comedian. Like, I was in. I was like, wow, I've really made it. I'm in a room with Jerry Seinfeld.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

No, no, no. Go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

I forgot.

[George Severis]

Oh.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

It was like, on the tip of my tongue, I was going to say. And I forgot.

[George Severis]

This is.

[Monet X Change]

This happens to me. And I'm like, is it because I'm like. Like, am I losing. I'm losing my mind.

[George Severis]

I feel the same way. It's. And I sort of am like, it's getting worse. It will only get worse, obviously, unless we get hymns for your brain.

[Monet X Change]

I literally pick up my phone. Like, I'm like, I'm gonna do the same for my phone. I had this pause and be like, you picked up your phone? Cause you were going to.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And. Which is so bad. Like, I'm like, is it aging or is it the things that we're using that are making me. Making me, like, inept at doing these things? I don't know. You can't square that circle.

[Sam Taggart]

It's a lot. Sometimes I feel like we talk too much and that makes it impossible.

[George Severis]

I do think that's true.

[Sam Taggart]

I find that I'm running. I forget who I've told what. Because I'm just always kind of free associating.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

And last night, I hung out with a friend, and I was talking about someone to her, and then three hours later, I started talking about that same person to her again. She's like, no, I know. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

I know. Oh, my God. Like, my mom, God bless her, she's like, will tell me the same. But then I'm like, oh, maybe it's a genetic thing. She will tell me the same story. Like, I'll call three times throughout the week, and every time. And by the third time, I'm like, yeah, I know. And I finish the story. She's like, oh, well, don't make me feel bad. I'm like, well, don't tell me the same story three times, girl. I'm like, I don't remember if you feel bad, bitch. You keep on telling me the same shit. I know.

[Sam Taggart]

See, this is interesting. There's. I was. When we were talking about the laws before, I was thinking, one law should be like, someone. You should be like, you have to tell someone when something they can change is off. Like, if there's something on their face or something in their teeth. Yes. Or their collar's messed up, you should have. Legally, you should have to tell them.

[George Severis]

So it's like, no hard feelings.

[Sam Taggart]

No hard feelings. But then I'm like, we actually don't have the language. Your mom telling the same story. To be like, hey, this is wrong. Hey. We don't have the correct language to be like, I'm correcting you lovingly.

[George Severis]

Yeah, I know. That's the way it should be. And I'm against mass surveillance. For the record.

[Sam Taggart]

For the record.

[George Severis]

But if there was a way to make it a technology where it's like. Like, it beeps if you have food on your teeth, it beeps if your lips are super chapped, it beeps if, you know, it's like, your shirt doesn't.

[Sam Taggart]

Literally. We need facial recognition for stuff in your teeth.

[George Severis]

Yeah. And it can be password protected. Like, I don't want the government to have access to, like, whether I have food in my teeth.

[Monet X Change]

I mean. But yeah, I mean, I have been in that situation so many times. I want to say something, but there's something about. It's just, like. It's just so weird. Like, one time I was dating this guy. This is like a second date we were on. And we were at this restaurant in Hell's Kitchen, hanging out, had dinner, leaving dinner. And we're, like, walking down Ninth Avenue and talking to him. I could see, like, you know when you're talking to someone and, like, just, like, the spit is starting to, like, gather in the corner.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. Fuck, I hate that.

[Monet X Change]

And just talking to me. And, like, literally, I'm not even looking in his eyes. I'm literally looking at it. I'm like, like. And Then I'm about to get on the train and he like goes to kiss me. I did not want to kiss him. Cuz I was. It was like. So I was. The skin on the back of my neck was literally crawling over my head and I did it anyway. And it was. I. I literally, I didn't. I pretended to go down in the subway when he walked away, went back up, went into the Duane Reade, bought some mouthwash. And I felt so grossed out by what I had just said. So I was. I made myself uncomfortably almost sick. Cause I couldn't bring myself to say, hey, you got something on the corner of your mouth.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, wipe that mouth.

[Monet X Change]

How do you not feel it?

[Sam Taggart]

You don't feel that? I feel like something maybe. I mean, were you, Was he drinking? Because sometimes I feel like when I'm drinking and that's when that really happens.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we definitely had dinners that drink, but I was drinking and I have it.

[Sam Taggart]

Or.

[Monet X Change]

Although when you see it on someone, then you start checking your stuff. You ever. So I'm talking, I'm like, yeah. Cause you know, I'm trying to like signal like, hey, you know. But no, nothing worked.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm constantly eating bagels and I'm like, with a mustache, it's one of the most dangerous things you can do.

[George Severis]

Well, one of the reasons I don't have a mustache. Well, I guess I naturally. But like in the beginning of having a beard, I was. My biggest fear was that food would be stuck in a context.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh. And it's stuck in there.

[George Severis]

And whenever it gets longer, it always happens. And talk about something no one tells you. So you're telling me I have a giant crumb right here and no one all day has told me.

[Sam Taggart]

And then you have to be one of those people that's like married to your napkin and you're like, bite nap, bite nap. And you're like, that's such a gross look.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, bring back the, Bring back the, the handkerchief. Men of a certain age always carried a handkerchief. And it was for things like that. It was to, you know, maybe wipe the corner of a mouth, maybe get the crumb out the beard. And they did it. And it was, you know, it was bring back the handkerchief. I think our generation has forgotten the handkerchief. We need to bring it back.

[George Severis]

Our generation has forgotten a lot.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but let's focus on the handkerchief.

[Sam Taggart]

Let's start one thing at a time.

[George Severis]

Next, universal health care. Should we do our first segment?

[Sam Taggart]

Yes, let's.

[George Severis]

Okay.

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[George Severis]

I turned off news altogether.

[Monet X Change]

I hate to say it, but I.

[George Severis]

Don'T trust much of anything.

[Monet X Change]

It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Sam Taggart]

We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down A little NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. So our first segment is called Straight Shooters. And in this segment we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions that's basically this or this other thing and you just have to pick one. And the only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or we'll scream at you.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

We'll create a new law that's just about that. Okay, okay, Monet. One kiss is all it takes. Or, son, this is a huge mistake.

[Monet X Change]

One kiss is all it takes.

[George Severis]

Lauren Boebert or frozen yogurt?

[Sam Taggart]

Frozen yogurt, dirty fingernails or wordy fairy tales?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wordy fairy tales.

[George Severis]

Hung like a horse or a black lung. Sounds kind of gross.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, black lung. I like kissing a smoker.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay, the radical left or sabbatical out west?

[Monet X Change]

Sabbatical out west for sure. No, wait, radical. I was like, yeah, I'm left. No, radical left. Oh, yes, please.

[George Severis]

Having a need for speed or jiving to some Lou Reed?

[Monet X Change]

A need for speed. I used to get tickets all the time in the city for driving fast.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay, Chef's kiss or. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, you're gonna kick shave me on this podcast.

[George Severis]

Well, it was yes, piss, not no piss.

[Monet X Change]

It was celebrating one. I hooked up with this guy on Jacked, and I came over to this part. This was a year before the guy forced me to fist him. Anyway, so at this guy's home, and he. And we're in the living room having a good time, blah, blah, blah. He was like, let's go to the bedroom. I'm like, sure, we go to the bedroom, baby. There were tarps down. And the man was. I was like, what was going on? And he was someone who enjoyed being urinated on.

[George Severis]

Of course, I mean, it's more common than you think.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but I mean, I think I was taking it back by the preparedness. I was like, wow, you have thought this through and you engage in this often. You don't ruin your things. So you have prepared us for the situation.

[Sam Taggart]

You know, there's something. Okay, okay. You know the preparedness paradox where like, okay, so it's this thing where like in Covid, it was like, we need to prepare and like wear masks so that this doesn't spread. But then because it doesn't spread, people are like, we don't need to wear masks. It didn't spread.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

And so you're in this like, loop where you like, if you prepare. It looks like you over prepared because it worked. There's also something in, like, sex world where there's a preparedness paradox, where you, like, if you prepare too much for the thing, it then becomes unsexy, and then the thing won't happen.

[George Severis]

100%.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, yes, I agree.

[George Severis]

Yeah. No, and it's tough. Well, actually, wait, final question.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, sorry.

[Sam Taggart]

And then the podcast is over. No, no, no.

[George Severis]

But I want to talk more about this Papa don't Preach or Mama, let's go to the beach.

[Monet X Change]

Mama, let's go to the beach. Wow.

[George Severis]

You're done, right?

[Sam Taggart]

I'm done.

[George Severis]

Okay. We rank our. No, no, no. He's not at all our. We rank our guest performance on a scale of 0 to 1000 doves. It's named after the Lady Gaga song 1000 Doves.

[Monet X Change]

Is that from Different Joanne?

[George Severis]

It is from Chromatica, but I would see how you're losing a point there.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, that was an amazing performance.

[George Severis]

That was an amazing performance. I would definitely say over 800, obviously, taking points away for not knowing I.

[Sam Taggart]

Was from Chromatica, but, I mean, I'm gonna go clean. 901. Okay.

[George Severis]

901. Yay. Thank you.

[Sam Taggart]

That's amazing.

[George Severis]

Okay, so in terms of preparedness, I think oftentimes being like, the tarps are unsexy can come across as kink shaming. But I'm not talking about the kink.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm talking about the tarps. Yeah, the tarps. Yeah.

[George Severis]

And I think so much of, like, like, shaming things like polyamory or, like, kink is about the, like, nerdiness behind it. The preparation and. The preparation and the. And, like, the taking the mystery out. And it's difficult to separate those two, because I have no problems with any kink whatsoever.

[Monet X Change]

100%.

[George Severis]

But if someone sends me a spreadsheet, I'm not hard.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not. Yeah, it's not. It's not. Yeah. It takes me out of the world.

[Sam Taggart]

I even find in. I'll say it. Anal sex. When you, like, put down a towel, say you're using a silicone lube that stains, but you put down a towel.

[George Severis]

I'm not doing that.

[Sam Taggart]

And you're like, okay, well, now it looks unsexy. Now it looks like you're disgusting.

[George Severis]

I'm not putting down anything.

[Sam Taggart]

But then your sheets, that could get stained, even just from the loo, wash them.

[Monet X Change]

And I got these Bogo at Marshalls. I do not want to stain these sheets.

[Sam Taggart]

I like this. I like these sheets.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree. Well, there's this. There's this Instagram. Obviously their targeted ads popped up the other day. Have you guys seen this new. This sex blanket that you use?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, I've gotten this ad.

[Monet X Change]

Is it. Oh, you. Okay, I was gonna say how is. How is it?

[Sam Taggart]

I haven't used it, but I've gotten the ad. I've gotten the ad.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want the girl stuff.

[George Severis]

And what is it? So it's a blanket. What makes it.

[Sam Taggart]

First of all, I've never had sex. Let's start there.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever is made out of the fibers, whatever. It's like, it's washable. Like silicone lube. Doesn't stain it. Like, you can get things on it and it will always come off. It's like, it's like a. But again, I don't know how nice it will look as part of your everyday decor. So you don't have to prepare. Just there.

[Sam Taggart]

And I want to know what the texture is.

[Monet X Change]

Like, exactly. What is. What is this texture?

[Sam Taggart]

Because I'm not buying it. I'm not believing that this texture is a good texture.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly.

[George Severis]

One time someone I know went home with someone and their sheets were JLO brand. And so they said Jlo, Jlo, Jlo, JLO, Jlo, Jlo, jlo, Jlo, Jlo,. On all over the sheet.

[Sam Taggart]

Nuh. Like how it's like Ralph Lauren, like pulling or something. That is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Okay, well, was this JLO pre orange drink if you know, you know, know talking about her deli, order her viral.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

This was probably, let's say 2016.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[George Severis]

It was a Trump thing.

[Monet X Change]

We. We like Jayla 2016.

[George Severis]

But still, but still, you know, JLO Homewears is a whole. It's very. Like I just came out as a gay guy and so I have to, I guess, get JLO sheets.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So I was also like, what? I. I was also going to hook dating a guy who had recently came out and he had like, everything was rainbow. And again, obviously, big fan of the rainbow. Love the rainbow.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But when I tell you, like, it was just. It's very like new gay. I just need to just really just show everyone. I was like, girl, we get it.

[George Severis]

No, there was a. I shouldn't say this because maybe it can get back sometimes. Like, I went to the home of a gay guy that had recently come out and he had all three of Andy Cohen's books displayed as though they were like coffee table books. Like, it was like. And here they are.

[Monet X Change]

No. No.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, that's kind of funny.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Like, but he wasn't. Cause it was funny.

[Sam Taggart]

He was like.

[George Severis]

He was like. It was like this. Clearly, he had read them. Like, they were probably influential. You know, he had read them after coming out. Whatever. It just is a funny. I'm trying to think what that was for me when I was, like, first coming out.

[Sam Taggart]

What I was gonna say is there's almost something respectable about that because, like, I did the opposite when I first came out. It was more like, yeah, but I'm still me. And it was like, no, you're not.

[Monet X Change]

Like. Like, you're a gay guy.

[Sam Taggart]

Like, you're gonna lean in. And I just, like, was a slow burn. Like, I was like, well, I still love, like, indie rock. And it was like, grow up. Like, you love Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

I think for me, I came out of choir college, so that's pretty gay.

[George Severis]

Choir.

[Monet X Change]

Cho was girl. I was. I mean, how gay can you.

[George Severis]

Well, but also Christian.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it was just. Just for the love of water. So I didn't need to do much. Like, I was like, I am living it every day 24 7.

[George Severis]

I think my way around what you're saying is I was like, okay, so my thing is John Waters, because that's both gay and, like, alternative. Like, I could be like, oh, look, I have a poster of Divine holding the gun. Yeah, that's cool.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

It's not. It's not. Not Christina Aguilera.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Which is, like, faggy.

[Monet X Change]

Have you seen the same thing on Grindr? That. Yes. Christina Aguilera is doing the alert sound now. Come on over. I was like, that is wild.

[George Severis]

And she's, I think, specifically advertising her tour or her shows or something on Grindr.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, there's something with the. The. The splintering of our media ecosystems, which we are guilty of.

[George Severis]

Of course, any. All gay people are.

[Sam Taggart]

Of course, they are driving the wedges. But there's something where I'm like, I, I. I'm sad for these, like, legacy acts where I'm like, Christina is a huge star. Like, why is she the sound on Grindr? Like, I'm like, why does Mariah Carey have to, like, go on a streamer? Like, why, Like, I feel bad for these girls that are, like, so respected that they have to, like, participate in our fractured media ecosystem.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I also think, too, like, with someone like Mariah, like, I think that her and Christina are both two people who recognize a. How much the gays have contributed to their success and the longevity of their careers. So I don't. I like, honestly, I think it's really camp that Christina's doing that because I think the last store did really well. So she's like, bitch, I'm gonna do this one. So I quite like it. I enjoy that they're giving back to us for all of the 9.99. We spent all the hours that we spent downloading Come on over on LimeWire over dial up Internet. I think you downloaded a song, then you listen to it and then 30 seconds in you hear this is AOL music. And it's like, you know, she's giving back to us for all we've done for her.

[Sam Taggart]

No, that's true.

[George Severis]

Totally. And I also think the Grindr specific.

[Sam Taggart]

Part does sort of undo what my argument was. That is fun that it's so gay coded.

[George Severis]

We also forget how many new kinds of media people had to adjust to. Like when MTV first came out, it wasn't like it was a choice to be like, I am joining this kind of movie. You know, I'm making a music video that's gonna be on mtv. Rather than being like a pure artist than just doing it for the music. Like at every stage you sort of had to decide, how am I gonna do this new media thing my way. And now, like, it is true that honestly, more people are on Grindr than are watching some legacy, like some legacy media that you could be on. Literally, like, sure, you, you could put Christina Aguilera on, you know, cnn. Does anyone gonna see it?

[Sam Taggart]

No, that's so true. We should put her on cnn.

[George Severis]

We should put her on cnn. We should put her on cnn.

[Monet X Change]

Let's talk about the latest news. Yeah, I mean, that's true. Like Lizzo has been doing these, these, these tiktoks about like the industry and like how it's all functioned now. And I'm like, the way she's putting shit into perspective, I'm like, I'm not. I haven't even thought about that. It's crazy.

[George Severis]

We need to talk about Lizzo. So first of all, all, there's so much to talk about. Okay, so in terms of what you're saying, I also have been finding it really interesting that she's sort of like pivoted to critic, like to music critic. And she's very smart. But we have this concept that I'll let Sam explain on this podcast. It's called Lizzo's Pass.

[Sam Taggart]

It's called Lizzo's Pass.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Sam Taggart]

And it's when an artist is like, has a Lot of buzz is very cool. Is, like, coming up really fast. And they get to Lizzo's pass, where they have to decide, are you gonna be like, cool, go Pitchfork? Are you gonna go Tart Target? And you. You have to make a choice.

[George Severis]

And Lizzo chose Target at the time. People don't remember. I mean, I'm sure you do and I do as fans, but people don't remember. People that only know Lizzo now don't remember. She used to be, like, alternative Buzzy. She was like, minneapolis. She was very, like, cool.

[Monet X Change]

What, up on my phone?

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

And then she. She was like, I could, you know, I could go the route of being, like, super alternative or I could go the route of being super mainstream. And she definitely chose mainstream. She was like, I'm gonna write empowerment ambulance anthems for moms, for spin class. For spin class, yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

And so we were saying this came up because I felt like Chapel Roan is at Lizzo's past currently.

[George Severis]

She hasn't decided yet if she's gonna go Target or Pitchfork.

[Sam Taggart]

And it's very unclear.

[George Severis]

And you can see, you know, FK Twigs went Pitchfork.

[Sam Taggart]

Charlie XDX went Pitchfork.

[George Severis]

Do you find that that happens with drag queens?

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, does that happen with queens? Um, I think, like, when you talk to someone like Lady Bunny, who has a very. She has a very staunch take on, like, you know, drag use. Like, she loves how suburb, how subversive drag was and how it was this thing in a nightclub, and she misses that and she wants it to be that.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And she kind of, you know, wags a finger and, like, shades the girls who have. Who got on a drag race and went, quote, unquote, mainstream.

[Sam Taggart]

And.

[Monet X Change]

And as someone who came up in drag where I was a New York City queen, I started drag because it. I did not start drag because I was like, oh, it's gonna get me. I wanna be on RuPaul's Drag Race. I started doing drag because I was figuring out my gender and my identity and, like, what that all meant. And drag informed so much about that, so much of that. And I did it because I just loved working seven shows over five nights a week in New York. I loved working my eight hour work day, getting home by 9:00pm, painting my face for three hours, going to the Ritz at 1:00 clock and staying out until 7:00 clock in the morning. I fucking love that shit, you know? And then. So. But now with Drag Race, I think Drag Race is like the Pitchfork moment. It's like, you get there and like, you're choosing to go that mainstream route.

[Sam Taggart]

Drag Race is Lizzo's pass.

[George Severis]

Drag Race is Lizzo's past. It's like, if you go on Drag Race, you're choosing Target.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. But there are some girls who. Some girls don't. They don't. They get there. It's like, oh, yeah, they regret.

[George Severis]

Not regret, but they're like, yeah, go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

It doesn't really happen for them in that way. I think they're like, out of the girls who get on the show, there are. And I think everyone who gets on the show is trying to get to the target. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think some girls, it doesn't happen before and they. So they just end up going the other. The other path. Not that they wanted to, but that's just kind of what was dealt to.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. I'm curious about this old past.

[Monet X Change]

I love that.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. This is a change of. Have we covered all we wanted to with that? Okay. One thing I always wondered about being on Drag Race is like, being gay famous. Is that, like, insane for dating purposes? Is that weird?

[Monet X Change]

You know, it is weird. It is weird in terms of, like, when I tried dating in New York, but I feel like in New York, people, there are so many options. I was like, girl, I would go on a date with a guy and like, it would last for thing, and then they would find the next best thing and move on.

[Sam Taggart]

You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

But I think when I went to la, I intentionally wanted to date and I took that very seriously. And I think in la, everyone is kind of like on the scene and everyone is, like, connected. If you go on a date with someone, they have to tell you that, oh, yeah, I used to thing for this artist, blah, blah, blah. And that got so. And that got so annoying. And then they bring up the drag and then they try to act like they have no idea that you are on Drag Race.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And then later I'm like, so. I wasn't gonna say anything, but I know I'm like, oh, God. And then they go to the whole thing and you talk about that and then hook with them, and then it can't get hard. Cause they're never anyway, so it is annoying in that way. But I do think that I'm always so happy that RuPaul gave me the opportunity and the platform to do this thing. And now I have shifted into, you know, being able to support myself and my art and my career and like, really, really do that and really take care of my family and stuff. Like, that so I do love all the benefits of it. But dating and fucking when you are, gayness can be a little like, God, yeah. I'm like, baby, go, go, go get the trimax. Go get. Go get the pills. Take that Viagra and let's get to work.

[George Severis]

Let's get you a HIMS promo code.

[Monet X Change]

Please, girl, please, please, please. But I will say, I just. So this year I started doing gay cruises.

[George Severis]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

And that is like, you're literally Mickey Mouse on the Disney toes. You are Mickey Mouse on a Disney cruise. People are software pictures. But I think for the most part, the gays, especially at parties, they'll like, chill at a party. Although sometimes, baby, I am. It's like they pull out a phone. I'm like, not to. Until we're by the pool tomorrow. Not tonight. But for the most part, they're chill on there. But gay cruise. You are like, you're a gayless person on a gay cruise. And if you're gonna participate in that, you have to just, you know, just. It is what it is and you just move on.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. We need gay cruises with yonder pouches.

[Monet X Change]

What's a yonder pouch?

[George Severis]

It's where you put your phone in.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I've seen those. Yeah.

[George Severis]

Yeah. In fact, I would say we need yonder pouches pretty much in most public places. Actually 100% like restaurants.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, my God.

[George Severis]

And I'm like, I get the debate about phones in schools. That's not my world. I don't have children.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Nor am I one.

[George Severis]

But. But I'm like, I. What I know is what it's like to be in my 30s as a gay guy. There are phones everywhere and it is making people dumber. So let's just. Yonder pouches.

[Sam Taggart]

Yonder pouches.

[Monet X Change]

Dr. Put phones away at bed. But like, my boyfriend likes to put it in the bathroom.

[George Severis]

I've made no effort, like, to go.

[Sam Taggart]

When you go to bed.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, go to bed. He puts in the bath.

[George Severis]

No, I wish mine.

[Sam Taggart]

So, yeah, when I'm at home, like, I at least put on the nightstand when I'm alone, I literally sleep with it in my hands.

[Monet X Change]

Like it is touching.

[George Severis]

That's crazy.

[Sam Taggart]

It's like I'm like sleeping like this.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no.

[Sam Taggart]

Because if I wake up for even one second, it's this.

[George Severis]

Sam. No.

[Monet X Change]

Sam. I have to.

[George Severis]

I think of me as the more phone addicted and social media addicted one. And even I don't do that.

[Sam Taggart]

It's like when I. Because when I can't sleep, I know it's the Thing. The number one thing you're not supposed to do is, like, start looking at your phone when you can't sleep. But that is the first thing I do because I'm like, well, I can't sleep. Time to look at my phone.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. And it's like. But sometimes it does get my mind off of things and does help me fall asleep, which is why I don't put it further away. Because I'm like. Because I'm like, I don't want to disturb myself by getting up and moving it.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God.

[Sam Taggart]

I just want to fall asleep with it right there.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I like to listen to a podcast. There's nothing to me that really puts me to bed than listen. Not in a bad way. In a great way, because I'm obsessed with her.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. What are your most boring podcasts?

[Monet X Change]

No, but listening to Joy Behar.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

I love Joy Behar so much. She is one of my favorite people. I do not know I'm obsessed with Joy Behar.

[George Severis]

No, I loved it.

[Monet X Change]

So I just love listening to her. She goes. So I'm a big View fan. I listen to the View every day, and they have this thing called the behind the Table, and every. Every time it's her, she does an episode a week on there. So I just like. It's like, my favorite day of the week. I listen to Joy Behar.

[George Severis]

Only a gay person could be like, joy Behar's voice is soothing to you.

[Sam Taggart]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Cause can't you know Donald Trump?

[George Severis]

I don't know. She's white.

[Sam Taggart]

I don't know.

[George Severis]

I once went to the View as an audience member. This is a very long time ago. I've told Sam the story a million times, but it was the worst day of my life because the guests were Newt Gingrich and the SpongeBob Musical.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God. So I'm going.

[George Severis]

And I'm thinking, maybe they'll have Lucy Liu on. You know, maybe they'll have, like, Kelly Rowland on. And we're told it's Newt Gingrich.

[Monet X Change]

Newt Gingrich is. I remember that episode.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I think Megan was still on the.

[Sam Taggart]

Show at that point.

[George Severis]

She was still on that show.

[Monet X Change]

The Meghan McCaniers of the View Art. Some of my favorite television shows is chaos. Like, and now they retell, like, they say often now they're like, this cast is great. Everyone gets along so well. We just love it. It's been so long since the cast gets along. I'm like, y' all are obviously talking about that. Cause Meghan McCain was insufferable on that show. And the way that Whoopi, Joy, Sonny, all them would have to pretend and have to like and have to sun her live on air. That episode when Whoopi go, Whoopi. Whoopi goes, girl, please stop talking. And Megan's like, have you seen the.

[George Severis]

Clip of Whoopi where Megan goes on this, like, long rant about being an American? And then Whoopi goes, okay, okay.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Sam Taggart]

That'S to die for.

[George Severis]

So good.

[Monet X Change]

It's so good. The American experiment is the way to go.

[George Severis]

And if we have two American women.

[Monet X Change]

Meghan Markle and Oprah Winfrey, who are.

[Sam Taggart]

Single handedly finishing with George Washington on.

[Annabe Sofas Advertiser]

Our revolutionary counterparts, did. I'm all for it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay?

[Sam Taggart]

I went to the View once as an audience member and like, in the in between acts, they, like, sometimes will talk to the audience. And I've told George this story, but there was this person who stood up and was like, whoopi, I just want to say, like, your one person show, like, meant so much to me and my best friend who was dying of aids. Like, he watched it every single day and like, you meant the world to him. And. And she goes, yeah, a lot of people like that.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I love about Whoopi. Whoopi is so unbothered.

[Sam Taggart]

I was like, this is the craziest.

[Monet X Change]

Thing I've ever seen. So unbothered. I love. That's my one regret is that when I did All Stars 4, that I didn't do a Whoopi in person. Gotta do a great Whoopi and I do a good Joy, and I'm so mad to not do it.

[George Severis]

You should have done Joy.

[Monet X Change]

I should have done Joy. That would've been really funny. Joy would've been great.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, my God.

[George Severis]

I mean, Whoopee would've been great too. But I think Joy, like you as Joy would be so fun.

[Monet X Change]

I know. Just move my little red w. Yeah, you know what I mean, Whoopi. Because you know Whoopi, when she gets out there, she's like talking to them and she's like, okay, yeah, like, I would have. Whoopi would have been great and I would enjoy. So that's. Those are my two big regrets in Drag Race.

[George Severis]

Ugh. Oh, my God.

[Sam Taggart]

Should we do our topic? Yeah, we don't have to. Let's. We're chill over here.

[George Severis]

We're being so chill.

[Monet X Change]

I love it.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, we're being so chill.

[George Severis]

We, like, sometimes we get to the straight topic and I'm like, I fucking hate that this podcast is about straight culture.

[Monet X Change]

But, you know. Know what? You know, after straight people. Straight people deserve the attention that y' all give them to. Like, well, it's like, you know, when.

[George Severis]

We started this, like, seven years or six years ago or whatever, it felt fresh to be like, we're analyzing straight culture. And now I'm like, all right, what's next? Boat shoes?

[Monet X Change]

George, George, you can't do this.

[George Severis]

Okay, so, Monet, what is your straight topic, and what would you say is straight about it?

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, my straight topic was.

[George Severis]

Would be fishing. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

You know, I think a lot of us grew up in this society when we were told that fishing was a man's sport and they fish. And you always say that. Remember when that fucking thing was all over? As seen on tv, the. I use batteries, not gas. I'm the funky boot, the little fish.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, big mouth bass.

[Monet X Change]

Big mouth bass. Yeah, I remember that fucking commercial. So, like, and it was like, Avatar, like, get it for your dad on Father's Day. Like, it's so, like, masculine, so machine reasonable about fucking fishing. And I'm like, no, everyone can fish. And fishing is. It has been co op. Not co op. It has been adopted as straight people buy their thing, especially straight men. And I just hate that.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. I. Do you have a relationship with fishing?

[George Severis]

Well, I was going to ask Monet, do you have a relationship with fishing?

[Monet X Change]

So I am from. My family's from St. Lucia in the Caribbean. I grew up in St. Lucia a really, really long time, which is famously an island. There's a lot of water, a lot of beautiful where people fish all the time. And I've never fished, but really, really. I mean, I knew my mom fished, and, you know, I come from a strong line of fierce, proud black women who did amazing things. And a lot of women in my family fished. And so I grew up seeing women fish all the time. So, yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Wow.

[George Severis]

Do you have a relationship with fishing?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. Cause I lived in, like, rural areas, and, like, one place we lived in, we had, like, a pond, and we would, like, go fishing. And I. I liked the calm. Like, if there's anything that is LGBTQ about fishing, it's sort of like sitting and reflecting and being, like, really getting into your thoughts.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

But then you're shaken out of it by a violent tug, and you realize, I'm actually ruining a fish's day and maybe even life.

[Monet X Change]

I know it's awful.

[Sam Taggart]

And to have to pull them in, it was so impossible for me not to think about like, being pulled in by the mouth. Like, I was like, damn, this is nasty as hell. And the thing is. Thing is that the. I always felt so gay because I would be so like, I liked fishing and there was something reflective about it. But then as soon as the fish was there on the hook, I was like, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. And like, my dad would have to, like, take it off and like, do the rest with it.

[George Severis]

So. My family is Greek and I partly grew up in Greece. And so my. Where.

[Sam Taggart]

Where were you?

[Monet X Change]

I went to Athens a Santorini and me Mykonos.

[George Severis]

Oh, so you did the big ones.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Was it so crowded?

[Monet X Change]

It was. Santorino was really crowded.

[George Severis]

Insane. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Mykonos wasn't that bad. Okay. But Athens up Santorino was really crowded.

[George Severis]

No, Santorini is crazy. I haven't been in like, I don't know, 15 years. It's like I feel like you can barely. You get like agoraphobic or something.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[George Severis]

So my idea of a fisherman was like, you know, 150-year-old Greek man, skin just leathered to hell. Like, can cannot hear anything, but is just shouting. Is like on a boat that has fully 15 holes on it. Like, it's very. And then somehow he comes out with a full octopus and then it's like hung over the. The thing. And so I was. When I'm in America, it's very different for me to think of like the American idea of fishing, which is very like Oakley glasses around your neck.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, there's two forms, I feel, because there's like country fishing.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Which, like, you know, you're on a quiet pond and then there's like Florida ocean fishing, which is the Oakley shades.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Sam Taggart]

And that's more like almost rich show off. Like, I have access to a boat. I am like, so strong.

[Monet X Change]

Is it those fanboat things that we're talking about?

[Sam Taggart]

I'm thinking more about like the fancy boats that like, go out into the ocean.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, okay. So just.

[George Severis]

Oh, okay.

[Sam Taggart]

Because that's so Oakley's and like rich guys.

[George Severis]

And like Republican.

[Sam Taggart]

And Republican.

[Monet X Change]

Very Republican.

[Sam Taggart]

And like being like, almost like, I'm going to try to catch the biggest fisherman I can and if it's not big enough, I'm throwing it back. Whereas, like, the fishing I was doing was more like we're on a pond or lake and like, you're catching like.

[George Severis]

Little guys and are you eating them?

[Sam Taggart]

And sometimes you're eating them.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

So talk to me about fishing in a. In a pond.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, it's a bit gross. It's a bit gross.

[Monet X Change]

Like a pond.

[Sam Taggart]

Like a pond.

[Monet X Change]

And y' all eat it.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, we were eating it.

[Monet X Change]

That's like catfish, right?

[George Severis]

It can be real bottom feeder stuff.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Like, I could get down with the ocean, but a pond? Yeah, with like dirt and stuff down there.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, yeah, there's dirt.

[Monet X Change]

See, that's the thing that gets me too, about, like, man made lakes and stuff like that. I don't get it, because you. It's not sand down there, it's mud.

[George Severis]

No, I. I agree. I have. I really struggle with anything enclosed.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[George Severis]

Having grown up around beaches, I just. I need it to be part of the rest of the earth.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah. And that's what's kind of. And you know, I've been. The Internet. I've been fighting the Internet about this, especially people from Chicago, because I do not get down with this beach that they're calling, oh, no.

[Sam Taggart]

But Lake Michigan's different.

[Monet X Change]

It's not a beach, though. It is a lake.

[Sam Taggart]

It is a big lake, so you can.

[Monet X Change]

You don't see any land. Monet. It is a. It is a lake. Michigan is a lake, not a beach.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, but it is a beach. Have you been?

[Monet X Change]

I have not been because I would not. I would not step my foot into such a place.

[Sam Taggart]

You haven't been because you're afraid of the truth, which is that when you get there, you will say, oh, my God, I'm at the beach.

[Monet X Change]

Is the water blue?

[George Severis]

Oh.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, yes.

[Monet X Change]

Is it?

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, it's a gorgeous blue.

[George Severis]

I'm gonna tell you something. I was a skeptic. I never believed it. I was exactly like you. I visited Sam's family. I went to the beach. I was like, this is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Really.

[George Severis]

I feel like I'm.

[Sam Taggart]

My family now. Lives on the Michigan side of the beach. But it's like. It's gorgeous.

[George Severis]

But I clearly. I really never thought I would feel this way. Like, I. I find lakes to be dirty. I don't. I really need.

[Sam Taggart]

I know what you're talking about because I know the lakes you're thinking of. Yeah, this. This lake is gonna blow your mind.

[Monet X Change]

The lakes I'm thinking of, they're always in some indie film with white people at a place, and they're like. There's a rope they swing into and everyone jumps. Those are the lakes I think about that exists.

[George Severis]

God, I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Sam Taggart]

Well, of course. And those lakes exist, but this lake is so different.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I need to go Then I need to go. I need to take myself to the lake. And I've been to Chicago several times. Everyone's always. Especially in the summertime, everyone's always talking about this goddamn beach. I'm like, I'm not going to the beach with y', all, bro. No, but I would now. I need to do some investigative journalism.

[Sam Taggart]

You have to do some investigative journalism.

[Monet X Change]

And go experience it myself. Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. I'm excited for you to go to the beach there.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, don't get me wrong, the Chicago side is a little dirtier, but in the same way that, like, a New York City beach is a little dirtier than, like.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's not. The New York City beaches are fucking horrible.

[Sam Taggart]

They're disgusting. I mean, I love them, but you're swimming in sewage.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, no shame. Like, we both come from places where beautiful.

[George Severis]

They're tourist destinations.

[Monet X Change]

They're tourist destinations. You know what I mean? So, you know, and I'm born. You know, I lived in St. Lucia from that time. I was 1 until 10. Then I moved to New York, and I lived here until I moved back to la. And so I've been in New York for the past 20 years. And I'm like, you know, when I first went to Reese beach and when I first went to Fire Island Beach, I'm like, are y' all fucking really gonna get into this goddamn brown seawater? That's crazy.

[George Severis]

I, when I was in the pines, decided to go in just to, like, say I did. I got injured. The wave smashed into me, I smashed onto my hip, and then I came out and I was bleeding.

[Monet X Change]

Jesus Christ.

[George Severis]

I said, I'll see you in Santor.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, I've always been fine.

[George Severis]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Also, you get into the New York beach, you are going to grow gills.

[Sam Taggart]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Literally, no.

[George Severis]

You're going to be shape of water. You're going to go shape of water mode.

[Monet X Change]

Literally. You're going to look like the thing at the end of the substance. You're going to look like Demi Moore. Just. Ugh. No, no.

[George Severis]

Well, what's straighter, hunting or fishing?

[Sam Taggart]

I do think hunting is a little straighter, but I want to say there's something wealthy about. About, like, especially the thing. So, obviously, we can't talk about fishing without talking about, like, the trope of, like, the Tinder guy holding the fish on the boat.

[George Severis]

Yes. Classic joke. All guys on Tinder are holding a.

[Sam Taggart]

Fish on a boat. Joke. As old as time.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

As old as 2011 and that. But there is something where like yes, Tinder guys. Also sometimes you'll see them like with a deer or whatever. But the fish does imply a certain level of wealth.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Because you are on a boat and that means you have access to a boat. Yeah. And I to say I've talked about this on stage, I've maybe talked about this on the podcast. One of my greatest shames is I find that picture hot. When I see the man holding the fish, I'm sort of like, now that's a man. It does something to me because I'm.

[George Severis]

Attracted to that kind of like button down tucked into khaki shorts.

[Sam Taggart]

It's always Americana and as I'm talking, colonial blue. Remember when I said that my dad would have to take care of the fish because I was grossed out? It's a father thing.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes. It is that for you.

[Sam Taggart]

It is that for me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I don't say that same thing. I don't think a man holding a fish does anything for me.

[Sam Taggart]

No, because for you it's mother.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I saw a girl, dude. I'm like, oh my gosh, she's hot. I was at a bar in LA the other day and there was this woman next to me and like I, you know, I, I, I, I've, I've only ever been with men. I've never been not, you know, cuz I'm a gay man and what so vid and this woman. But for me, and I know this is a toxic thing for me. I know, I know. But if you are above 6 2, I don't care if you look like the bottom of my shoe, I will suck your dick. I am just into tall people.

[George Severis]

How tall are you?

[Monet X Change]

I'm 5 11.

[Sam Taggart]

Really?

[George Severis]

Really?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah. Why have these have a little heels on?

[George Severis]

The heels.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

You look.

[George Severis]

Yeah. You're giving tall.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'm five'11 and three quarters. And then so I'm at this bar and ordering a drink and then I feel this literally looming, this, this presence next to me. Like it's like, it's like covering me, like just a shroud over me. And I look over and it is this woman that was, I think she was like 69 or something like that. Right. And she was an ex volleyball player for the women's U.S. volleyball team or whatever it was. Yeah. And then I looked up at her and I legitimately almost climaxed. I was so turned on by what I saw and I. So if there are any tall ladies out there, the market is open.

[Sam Taggart]

You just want to be, you want to be Engulfed.

[Monet X Change]

I want to be engulfed. You know what I mean? And this woman, she was just so tall and so statuesque and so beautiful. She was the hottest person I've ever seen in my life.

[Sam Taggart]

That is so interesting.

[George Severis]

Well, you know, people are either horses or ponies. And I think it. I think everyone.

[Sam Taggart]

Have you heard this?

[Monet X Change]

I've heard dogs or cats. I've never heard of horses or ponies.

[George Severis]

No. This is something I made up, but I feel like there's two types of. And I think we're both ponies. And I think you're a pony.

[Sam Taggart]

You're giving pony.

[Monet X Change]

You're giving pony. Yeah, I'm a pony for sure. I'm a pony.

[George Severis]

You're a crossbreed. It's like a horse on a pony.

[Monet X Change]

I'm a mule. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. Don't be a donkey. I am a mule.

[George Severis]

No, no, you're not a mule.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, mule ass bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Like, you're a cross between a donkey and a horse.

[George Severis]

But I think that if you're a pon, either attracted to horses or scared of them, and I think. I wouldn't say I'm scared of them, but there is something where I'm like. I get nervous when I see a horse because I'm like, what am I going to do with all that?

[Sam Taggart]

Well, it's like the fear is attraction, you know?

[George Severis]

Do you think? Yeah, maybe.

[Sam Taggart]

Sometimes I'm like, so scared. I'm like, nice.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Well, I'm also. It's like when someone is so large, where I'm like, wow, you're like, less leg. I could, like, hug it.

[Monet X Change]

Please.

[Sam Taggart]

I know, George, you're turning me on.

[Monet X Change]

My neck and choke. Suffocate me with that thigh. Love that.

[George Severis]

Do you like a thigh?

[Monet X Change]

I do like a thigh. Yeah, I do like a thigh. I. I realize this, like, like, really skinny, skinny guys is just hard for me because I am just a lot of person. So, like, you just. I just need a little more. A little more. A little me and a little height. One or the other, you know.

[George Severis]

You're a pony.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm a pony for sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to fuck this guy in Kew Gardens when I used to live here. And he was built like a fire hydrant. He was a short man, but he was like a. Like, he was a solid person.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. This is such a funny conversation. When someone's like a square, like, they're like, short and, like, wide. I'm like, nice.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm like.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Sam Taggart]

How'd you get to be a square. That's awesome.

[Monet X Change]

How did you get to be that shape? For sure? Sure. Yeah, I agree.

[George Severis]

God, that's good. Well, any other thoughts on fishing?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, there's like, go fishing. I would like to go fishing.

[George Severis]

I know. I would like someone to show me, but maybe someone you know.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Sammy, like, you did it all your life.

[Sam Taggart]

I did it, but I. I was always afraid of it, so it's complicated. Yeah, I. I think like, I like the idea of fishing because I like ways in which you can interact with water.

[Monet X Change]

Are you a water sign?

[Sam Taggart]

Cancer?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Water sign. Yeah, I'm a Pisces. I love water.

[Sam Taggart]

I love water.

[George Severis]

I think is cancer water.

[Monet X Change]

It is. It's a crab water.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. But like, like, fly fishing sounds so romantic to be like standing in water and being like. Do you guys know what that is?

[Monet X Change]

Wait, no. What is that?

[Sam Taggart]

You, like, hold up the fishing line and you sort of like whip it around and it's supposed to like, mimic how like a fly moves on the water so that a fish will come up and get it. O. But you stand there for a while and it's like sort of an all day experience of like standing in water. And it sounds great as like a activity, but I don't actually want to catch fish. I just want to hang out in the water and have something to do with my hands.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow.

[George Severis]

I do feel more connected to fish than land animals. Like, just generally speaking, I'm more comfortable in an oceanic environment than I am like in the jungle.

[Monet X Change]

I want 100%. Yeah, same.

[George Severis]

I sort of get it. Like, okay, so you guys are in community. Like, I know there's still predators and stuff. Like, obviously it's not all fun and games, but like, there is a more communal, There is a more socialist community down there. Whereas when you go to the jungle, they are. People are like ripping each other to shreds, literally.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. That is so true. Maybe that's why I feel more connected to water. That is so true. Yeah, yeah.

[George Severis]

Like a coral reef. I'm like, you guys have. Have it figured out.

[Sam Taggart]

Of course, coral reef is just a city.

[George Severis]

Yeah, but it's like a city. It's like a Scandinavian city where they like, have figured out, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Copenhagen.

[Sam Taggart]

It's Copenhagen.

[Monet X Change]

Copenhagen. Or it was Copenhagen. I agree with that.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

That's such a. That's such a. You love that take.

[George Severis]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

That's great.

[George Severis]

I'm mostly, you know, it's mostly Finding Nemo based.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, there's a lot I agree with in that. But then at the same time, sometimes if I'm running through a forest, I'm like, this is the true me.

[George Severis]

Interesting.

[Monet X Change]

Ah, not me.

[George Severis]

No. I guess don't panic. In a forest. I feel like a dude. I can dip into a forest, I can dip into a hike, but it's not me. Like, it's drag for me if I'm on a hike. It's drag.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I'm not a forest. I'm not a forest person. I don't like sleeping on the ground. I would sleep on. I would sleep on the ocean. I would sleep on a beach.

[Sam Taggart]

I would sleep on a beach, but.

[Monet X Change]

I would not sleep on. I would not sleep in the woods. On the forest. Like, I don't want that. I feel like there's so many things that can happen to you there and there.

[George Severis]

I don't want to hear who.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't want to hear who.

[George Severis]

You know what I do want to hear? The sounds of the water, the ocean.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Yes. Including, like, when I did the Survivor experience that came out and we slept on that. Like, so we're in this jungle and, you know, they tell it had not rained in so long in Fijian. They're like, you know, probably when they thought it was gonna be clear, like the week before, they're like, so it's looking like it's gonna be a rainstorm. And we're like, God, oh, my God.

[Sam Taggart]

That's always the worst parts of survival when there's rain.

[Monet X Change]

The worst part, right? So we get out there and we're doing the thing. And like, we did it from 10:00am on like a Friday, let's say until 10:00pm on a Sunday night. So we were there for 48. That's more than 48 hours. Oh, shit.

[Sam Taggart]

72 hours.

[George Severis]

No, wait. Tell everyone. Okay. What is this called?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. So this is called the Survivor Influencer. It's called the Survival Influencer episode.

[George Severis]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

They brought eight influencers out to Fiji and they brought us there to film a 48 hour survive experience. And like, the full thing, y'.

[Sam Taggart]

All.

[Monet X Change]

We had to build our own shelter, we had to build our own fire, we had to make my own, our own food. Like, it was literally that. And what I was like, oh, they're bringing influencers out. They're going to. I mean, they're gonna be crafty. They're gonna be a crafty thing. We can get, you know, I can get some Cheetos at one o' clock. In the morning if I need to. Nothing. It was a true experience. And it was like. And I. I don't know. I guess I just pulled out some primal leadership experiences. And I was, like, helping build a shelter. I had, like, a game plan. Like, I was really, like, instrumental in getting our shit done. Okay, so then we're on this beach, though, and, you know, our shelter wasn't sound as. Cause I'm not a fucking engineer. Of course I'm gonna build a goddamn shelter. So it starts to rain. And it was legitimately from 6pm in the night until 6am no pouring rain on us. Sleeping in. Rain, cold, miserable, awful. And then how I got. When, When. When. When it finally stopped raining. Cause the sun didn't come out there until, like, seven, eight. I, like, went over to the beach. I laid on the sand, and that's when I felt most at home. When I was just on the. On the sand by the beach, sleeping there. I was like, oh, feels good. So I think the ocean. I'm an ocean dweller.

[George Severis]

Can I ask you a question? What is the. What are the. What's the choreography of the cameramen being there? So you're doing all of that? We're seeing it, like, wow, I can't believe they're out in the wilderness, but there's a cameraman there.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, like, they're. But they. Like, these camera people, they are like. They're on their hands and knees, just following. Just running around following you. And, like, they are not allowed to give you the time. They can't tell you anything. So you lose all senses of, like, what time. Like, your reference of time is so off. You have no idea. Cause as soon as the sun sets, you know the sun sets, and you know it's gonna rise when it's morning time.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

But, like, you have no idea. So at one point we were like. And they told us after. After we had wrapped. We had. The sun had set and we were there. And it felt like we had been there for fucking 12 days at that point. It was only, like, a few hours in. And we were like, can someone just please tell us the time? And we were just. And they wouldn't tell us. We were guessing, like, okay, guys, I think right now it's probably, like, around 2am We've been here all night long. D Like, when y' all asked us that question, it was only 9pm you had only been there for three hours.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

But it felt like it was never ending.

[Sam Taggart]

That is a nightmare.

[Monet X Change]

It's tough.

[Sam Taggart]

So I've Always. Whenever in Survivor when they like go to sleep, they all kind of like cuddle next to each other. Like, are you, are you guys cuddling?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we did. We were on that hard ass bamboo. Cuddling. Cuddling being. We started to get stinky after 24 hours, I'm sure. So we're just there, wet and cold, funky as hell, cuddling for heat because it was so cold. And you're like, you're in Fiji. It's hot. No, girl, when the sun sets in Fiji, it's cold and it's breezy and rainy. It was cold.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, don't get me wrong, when the sun sets in la, I say, this is the coldest I've ever been in my whole life.

[Monet X Change]

I know. And then you see someone in New York with a Balenciaga coat and 18 scar, I was like, bitch. It is negative too. I know. But yeah, ladies, thins your blood though. Since I went to la, I've become a weather wimp.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, I'm weak as hell.

[Monet X Change]

I'm so weak now when it comes. And I, I mean, yeah, I gotta get back here.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah, I gotta get strong.

[Monet X Change]

But I not. But I will say this though. Chicago people, I, in my humble opinion, Chicago is brutally cold. People are like, well, you lived in New York. I'm like, but yeah, Chicago's a little different.

[Sam Taggart]

Chicago's colder.

[Monet X Change]

Like the way like the wind comes into your bones when it's fucking cold in Chicago. It feels like it is.

[George Severis]

It's like there's no escape. It's like I'm gonna die here.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's what it feels like. Yeah. But, yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Huh. So do you think you could ever do the full Survivor run?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I think I could. Really, I think I could. I think that, you know, I think I have this. I think I have the. What it takes to get through a whole run of Survivor. And I think I'd win because, baby, my social game was. Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure it was so good.

[Sam Taggart]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

It was just charm. You just gotta say some nasty shit to some money and just laugh afterwards. And that's how I did. Like, oh my God, she's just Monet, you know?

[Sam Taggart]

Wow. Do we have any final thoughts on fishing?

[Monet X Change]

Can we all take a fishing trip together?

[George Severis]

Yes, let's do.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Monet X Change]

We'll fish on Fire Island. No, not that warm.

[George Severis]

Oh my God, can you imagine?

[Sam Taggart]

I've never heard of that happening.

[Monet X Change]

You know, the gays have a sport, have a team, everything else gay dodgeball, gay Volleyball, gay football. Do gay fishing.

[Sam Taggart]

It's harder to eroticize fishing.

[Monet X Change]

Because all.

[Sam Taggart]

Those other sports, it's like, half fetish also.

[George Severis]

And they would also get distracted and have sex on the boat. Just be like, okay, so the boat is sinking. We haven't caught any fish.

[Sam Taggart]

If they were like, we're doing, like, boat sex tours, I'd be like, no, that sounds nice.

[Monet X Change]

That does sound nice, actually.

[George Severis]

Gay cruise. That's gay fishing.

[Sam Taggart]

No, we're all going to go on a big boat and we're going to go fishing.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God. I can't wait.

[Sam Taggart]

I can't wait.

[Monet X Change]

Well, the thing with also the, like, getting the chum and. Is that the worms and the laurel.

[George Severis]

There's something dirty about it.

[Sam Taggart]

It's all dirty. Yeah, it's all dirty.

[Monet X Change]

And when you caught the fish, well, you didn't fuck. But y' all had to, like, clean it and scale it, do it yourselves.

[Sam Taggart]

I was always scared of it. Couldn't do it.

[Monet X Change]

Get the guts out and stuff.

[Sam Taggart]

I couldn't do it. It's too gross. And honestly, I didn't even like eating it because I was like, I know where that comes from. The pond.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the pond. That damn pond.

[George Severis]

I just had the earnest thought to myself, God, I wish there were mermaids.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Sam Taggart]

I think that literally every time I'm in water, I'm like, it's just not fair that they don't exist.

[George Severis]

I know. It'd be amazing if one of them just popped up. You know, I heard Christina Aguilera.

[Sam Taggart]

I heard that mermaids, like, as a myth, come from sailors being really delirious and also horny and seeing a seal.

[Monet X Change]

But also, I mean, we also romanticize mermaid like, y'.

[George Severis]

All.

[Monet X Change]

If they were mermaids, they would be evil, awful looking.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

They're getting nose. They're down there with no sunlight. They will look awful.

[George Severis]

They will be knots in their hair.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Like, it was not.

[Sam Taggart]

It was not good. Yeah, the hair would be pretty gross.

[George Severis]

Unibrow, unibrow.

[Monet X Change]

Ugh. No, no, no.

[George Severis]

Just, like seaweed stuck on her scale.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly. Or like, when you see, like, those, like, seals. Like barnacles on them.

[George Severis]

No, literally barnacles.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, also, imagine if they had fish eyes.

[Monet X Change]

Like, that's what's on the side. Yeah. I don't think mermaids. In the fantasy, we want them to be. That's what it'd be, really.

[George Severis]

Have you seen the lure L U R E? It's this, like, horror mermaid musical. And they're. The mermaids are, like, evil. Like, they have like pointy teeth and they're like, like it's. It's very good.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, it's good.

[Monet X Change]

The lure. Okay.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I got seen Aileen Dieu.

[George Severis]

Oh, the Seline John thing. Is there a mermaid storyline in it?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't think so.

[Sam Taggart]

You're like, if we're doing Movie Rush.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no. But on things we thought would be good or.

[George Severis]

Oh, is it not good?

[Monet X Change]

Are you kidding?

[Sam Taggart]

I thought it was supposed to be like, really?

[George Severis]

I thought it's like camp.

[Monet X Change]

No, I mean, I mean, yes, yes. But it only became camp because they, they asked the Celine's estate for the rights and they were like, hell no, you can't do that.

[George Severis]

So that's why they named it Alien duo.

[Monet X Change]

Alien Dior. I did it anyway. And the same woman who plays Celine the whole movie. So the same woman playing her at 53 plays her when she's 12 years old. And the opening scene is her with Columbia Records in the thing. She's just sitting in the camera pants of her is this old bitch. Like, it's crazy.

[Sam Taggart]

That is so funny.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's so good.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, to check it out, should we do our final segment?

[George Severis]

I guess so. I'm having so much fun.

[Sam Taggart]

I know, What a blast.

[George Severis]

But you know, time is money.

[Monet X Change]

Time is Monet.

[George Severis]

Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

She's always working.

[George Severis]

Oh my God, she's always working.

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[George Severis]

I turned off news altogether.

[Monet X Change]

I hate to say it, but I.

[George Severis]

Don'T trust much of anything.

[Monet X Change]

Anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Sam Taggart]

We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. Okay, so Monet. Our final segment is called Shout Outs. In this segment, we pay homage to the grand strait tradition of the radio. Shout out. Shouting out to anything. People, places, things, ideas that we are enjoying currently. We will go first and make them up on the spot. We have not thought of them even slightly. Okay, okay.

[George Severis]

One came to me, so I can.

[Sam Taggart]

Please go first.

[George Severis]

Okay. All right. What's up, cinephiles? I want to give a shout out to penises being used as a gag early on in a film. So I'm thinking of like forgetting Sarah Marshall, where famously, you see his penis. I recently watched a movie called Splitsville with Dakota Johnson. Have you seen it?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[George Severis]

It's like two straight couples and they try to be open and chaos ensues. Let's just say that. Okay, but the first. First scene, you get a real penis gag. And I was like, you know, we don't do this anymore. We gotta use male bodies for comedic effect. I thought it really worked. I thought it really set the tone of the movie, and I would like to see more of it potentially with. With someone like Colin Farrell. And so I would really love to see more of that on screen. And I do want to say not to be. I know this is a cliche at this point, but enough prosthetics.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, enough prosthetics, please. Put the real penises out there.

[George Severis]

Come on.

[Sam Taggart]

This is actually the law. I want.

[George Severis]

Yeah, no, I. I would agree. I would agree.

[Monet X Change]

Enough prosthetics. Enough prosthetic penises.

[George Severis]

I want to say shout out to our friend Joel for not using a prosthetic when he has had his cock out on tv. On tv. Ooh. In industry, right?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, right?

[Sam Taggart]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

The show's called industry.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. Joel, can Booster.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Joel.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Joel, wait.

[George Severis]

He is. He had his out.

[Sam Taggart]

He has, like, a steam room scene.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna look it up. Joel, did that get it? Joel.

[Sam Taggart]

Damn, this is so hard.

[George Severis]

You know, this is what. This is where it gets. Sixth episode out of six. We're out of things to shout out. That's why I'm shouting out penises.

[Monet X Change]

I have one.

[Sam Taggart]

You can't go first. That would be wrong. That would be wrong. As a host, that would just be inappropriate. What's up, freaks, losers, and perverts around the globe? I want to give a huge shout out to the very plain loafers that I am wearing. George complimented my very plain loafers today, and I said, thank you. I was looking for plain loafers, and I found them 5ish years ago. It's that thing where, when I got them, I was like, I know they're not right. And they're, like, almost so deeply plain and untrendy and any way, shape, or form, but they've aged into something so classic where it's like, oh, damn. Where did you even get those? They're like. They're like little boy loafers in a way that, like, people are now noticing them because they seem like they come from a different time period. I think it's nice when you buy something and you're not sure what it will be, but you hold onto it for long enough that eventually it makes sense. You have to trust your instincts. Time heals all wounds. Get loafers now. They will make sense later. Xoxo, Sam.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

I will say I love your loafers.

[Sam Taggart]

I can't.

[Monet X Change]

Those are so cute.

[Sam Taggart]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they're great.

[Sam Taggart]

Appreciate it.

[George Severis]

And you bought them new. You didn't buy them.

[Sam Taggart]

I bought them new.

[Monet X Change]

Fierce. Yeah. They've aged into a.

[George Severis]

They've aged really well.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, look at you.

[Sam Taggart]

Five year old shoes.

[Monet X Change]

Fierce. I want to give a shout out. Hey, all you green thumb listening out there to shout out to all of you plant owners. I have become a plant parent and you know, I didn't, I didn't see this for me, I didn't think I had the constitution to raise plants in the way that I have been, but I've been doing a decent job. Now, half of them died two weeks ago because the irrigation was off, but that's because I didn't pay attention. But to all of you out there with your plants supporting them and they're growing so lovely and greeny and leafy, shout out to you plant owners out there.

[George Severis]

Wow, Monet, anything you want to promote? We haven't even given you the floor.

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God. Come and see me tell jokes. I'm doing standup around this fall. Going to places like Buffalo, New York.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, wow.

[Monet X Change]

And Philadelphia and Phoenix and Calgary, Canada, and Spokane, Washington. So go to Monet, Xchange slash live. No, go to monetexchange.com live. There it is. To get tickets and come see me this fall.

[George Severis]

What a dream.

[Sam Taggart]

Huge. Well, this has been a real delight. Thank you so much for doing this.

[George Severis]

We're such big fans. We love you so much. You have good old fashioned charisma which is in fact endangered these days.

[Sam Taggart]

And I want to say, whenever you came after midnight, you were such a delight to work with. So fun.

[Monet X Change]

It was so good. It was so. I missed that show. I know. It was so, so good. I had such a good time being there. Y' all always made it just seamless, easy.

[Sam Taggart]

You're too kind.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, y' all did. You did, you did. You did.

[George Severis]

Well, go see Monet.

[Monet X Change]

Bye bye.

[Sam Taggart]

Podcast ends now.

[George Severis]

Want more? Subscribe to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month. Discord Access and more by heading to patreon.com Stradiolab and for all our visual learners.

[Sam Taggart]

Free full length video episodes are available on our YouTube.

[George Severis]

Now get back to work.

[Sam Taggart]

Stradiolab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money players network and iHeart podcasts.

[George Severis]

Created and hosted by George Severis and.

[Sam Taggart]

Sam Taggart, executive produced by Will Ferrell Hansani and Olivia Aguilar.

[George Severis]

Co prod produced by Bay Wang Edited.

[Sam Taggart]

And engineered by Adam Avalos Artwork by.

[George Severis]

Michael Fails and Matt Grubb Theme music by Ben Kling.

[Sam Taggart]

Hey, what's up?

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[Monet X Change]

The NFL International Games continue on NFL Network and here our stars cover out in The Morning Week 10, Bajan Robinson and the Falcons take on Daniel Jones and the Colts in Berlin. Then in week 11, Jayden Daniels and the Commanders touchdown once again, face Tua and the Dolphins in Madrid. Snooze off. Game on It's Sunday morning Football continues November 9th at 9:30 Eastern only on NFL Network. Get ready to power up your play.

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[Monet X Change]

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[Mario Lopez]

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[Sam Taggart]

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[Monet X Change]

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