"Game Night" w/ Taylor Ortega

Summary

Podcast Summary: StraightioLab - "Game Night" featuring Taylor Ortega

Podcast Information:

• Title: StraightioLab
• Host/Author: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts
• Description: StraightioLab is an intellectual podcast where smart comedians George Severis and Sam Taggart unpack the rich, multi-colored tapestry of straight culture. In each episode, George and Sam are joined by a guest to hold a MIRROR to society and get to the BOTTOM of mysterious and perverse topics such as college fraternities, gender reveal parties, the military, themed restaurants, and the concept of "the holidays."
• Episode: "Game Night" with Taylor Ortega
• Release Date: June 24, 2025

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Introduction to the Episode

The episode begins with a brief introduction from George Severis, welcoming listeners from around the globe to StraightioLab. The main focus centers on the concept of "Game Night," exploring its dynamics within the LGBTQ community compared to straight culture.

Discussion on the Evolution of Game Nights

George Severis [02:24]:
"Podcast starts now. What is up, everyone around the globe? You're listening to StraightioLab from New York."

Ryan Reynolds [31:14]:
"Today I would like to talk about game nights. I feel like the more gay my community has become, my circle has become, and moving to LA, it became even, like, I would say 10 million gayer. I'm not really going to game nights anymore."
This quote highlights Ryan's personal shift away from traditional game nights as his social circles evolved.

Taylor Ortega [31:47]:
"When you were going to game nights, describe it for us."

The hosts delve into how game nights have traditionally been hosted by straight couples with structured environments, emphasizing organized activities like tabletop games and Jackbox games. They compare this to their experiences within the gay community, where game nights often involve more spontaneous and less structured interactions.

Cultural Differences in Game Night Dynamics

George Severis [33:18]:
"I almost find it kind of sad because you're like. Like, you do want to make it work. You're like, so we have different sexualities. Who cares?"

Taylor Ortega [34:16]:
"A huge part of your 20s is going on group trips with straight couples."

The conversation explores the inherent differences in socializing styles between straight and gay communities. George expresses sadness over the rigidity of straight game nights, while Taylor points out the necessity of icebreakers in such settings.

Games as a Social Bridge and Source of Tension

Ryan Reynolds [44:35]:
"Personally, no. When people win Quiplash because of anti humor, I get so upset. I'm like, I put all the work into doing this wordplay."

Taylor Ortega [44:32]:
"When people win Quiplash because of anti humor, I get so upset."

The hosts discuss how certain games like Quiplash can create tensions due to differing humor styles and competitive spirits. They highlight how gay game nights often balance playfulness with the potential for deeper, more meaningful interactions.

Masculinity and Relationship Dynamics

Taylor Ortega [68:19]:
"The conventional narrative is like men almost, it's like having a girlfriend or a wife affirms their masculinity. That's the conventional narrative."

Ryan Reynolds [69:14]:
"Straight men having a girlfriend is like gay men having an older sister."

This segment delves into the societal expectations of masculinity within relationships, contrasting straight and gay perspectives. The hosts argue that traditional relationships offer a space for redefining masculinity, while also critiquing how societal norms shape these dynamics.

Sexuality and Social Interactions in Game Settings

Ryan Reynolds [50:47]:
"The potential for sex exists so much. I was not really in straight spaces being like, yeah, I would fuck a bunch of people here. Like, no, I wouldn't."

Taylor Ortega [55:05]:
"My friend Maddie has a joke that's like, she first identified as bi and was in a lesbian relationship, and then her partner transitioned. And the punchline of the joke, which I'm gonna butcher, is like, you really can't escape your fate as a bi girl to have a boyfriend."

The conversation shifts to how sexuality influences social interactions during game nights. They explore the complexities of navigating sexual dynamics in both straight and gay spaces, emphasizing the importance of consent and personal boundaries.

Final Thoughts on Game Nights

Taylor Ortega [73:24]:
"A Casamigos margarita during Pride. Now that's a slay."
While primarily a playful remark, this quote encapsulates the episode's blend of humor and cultural commentary.

George Severis [82:58]:
"Our final segment is called Shout Outs and we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out."

Shout Outs Segment

In the concluding segment, the hosts give shout outs to various cultural elements and personal anecdotes, maintaining the episode's engaging and humorous tone.

Taylor Ortega [76:01]:
"What's up, cinephiles and letterboxd users. I wanna give a shout out to the film 'Happiness' by Todd Soles."

George Severis [77:45]:
"Shout out to Curb Your Enthusiasm for being my plane tradition."

These shout outs serve to connect with listeners by referencing shared interests and personal favorites.

Conclusion

The "Game Night" episode of StraightioLab offers a nuanced exploration of social dynamics within game nights, particularly contrasting straight and LGBTQ communities. Through engaging dialogue and relatable anecdotes, hosts George Severis, Ryan Reynolds, and guest Taylor Ortega provide insightful commentary on how cultural identities shape social interactions, relationships, and even game choices. Notable quotes punctuate the conversation, offering listeners memorable takeaways on the complexities of modern socializing.

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Notable Quotes:

• Ryan Reynolds [31:14]:
  "I'm not really going to game nights anymore."

• George Severis [33:18]:
  "Like, you do want to make it work. You're like, so we have different sexualities. Who cares?"

• Taylor Ortega [44:32]:
  "When people win Quiplash because of anti humor, I get so upset."

• Ryan Reynolds [50:47]:
  "The potential for sex exists so much. I was not really in straight spaces being like, yeah, I would fuck a bunch of people here. Like, no, I wouldn't."

• Taylor Ortega [68:19]:
  "The conventional narrative is like men almost, it's like having a girlfriend or a wife affirms their masculinity."

These quotes encapsulate the episode's exploration of social and cultural themes surrounding game nights.

Transcript

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

It's Pride Month, and you know what that means.

[Matt Rogers]

Friendship Parties. Dancing.

[Bowen Yang]

Correct. And do you know what the perfect thing to bring to any Pride event is?

[Matt Rogers]

But when we talked about this, I'm not a thing.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, not you. I meant Casamigos.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, Chic and honestly, the only other correct answer.

[Bowen Yang]

A Casamigos margarita during Pride. Now that's a sleigh.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[George Severis]

Podcast starts now. What is up, everyone around the globe? You're listening to Stradiolab from New York.

[Taylor Ortega]

City, and I just want to say I was silencing my phone. That's why my finger was Breathing briefly on my phone. I wasn't quickly, you know, sending an email.

[George Severis]

George, no one's close watching our podcast.

[Taylor Ortega]

I have to be honest, I was actually more apologizing. Interesting. Interesting that you are. You think I'm addressing our listeners. I'm actually so embodied and in the moment. I was just apologizing to my two friends that are with me in the room.

[George Severis]

Okay, well, I'm gonna look at my phone to sort of time it is.

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[George Severis]

So that I can sort of moving forward, know what time we're working with. You know, if anyone's mad, if anyone's watching from either in this room or at home. That's why this is my phone.

[Taylor Ortega]

One of the most stressful things for me is when we were on tour, like, two years ago, sometimes you would be like, can you keep track of the time? And I knew that I needed to look at my watch while we were on stage, but I could not do it subtly. So the people in the audience looked at me looking at my watch while performing, which I think is like a. It's like, it's already rude to do that just interpersonally. But to be professional performer, be on stage, and fully look at your watch is maybe legendary status.

[George Severis]

I don't think it's that bad, you know?

[Taylor Ortega]

Okay.

[George Severis]

I think looking at your watch is, like, reasonable. Like, you have to know what time it is. Well, we're riffing up there.

[Taylor Ortega]

Looking at your watch, it's never actually root. Sometimes you really do just want to know what time it is. But it has the reputation of being, like, you know, of, like, ripping a fart or something.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think it's like. It's like yawning a little bit. It's like yawning while someone's talking. And it's kind of like, I'm not bored. I'm, like, literally tired. Has nothing to do with you.

[Taylor Ortega]

Okay. You're saying this.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm tired all the time.

[George Severis]

I hear all the time.

[Taylor Ortega]

The natural way you enter the conversation will be studied for millennia.

[Ryan Reynolds]

By the way, I don't even know what my camera is.

[Taylor Ortega]

Because we, you know, our bit normally would be to yell at you and be like, it's not, you know, we haven't brought you in yet. And that would become a whole. You know, it's hilarious. People love when we get, like, guests. Like, we love when we get combative. People say, we miss it. Like, you guys are being too nice these days. You know, we have all these A listers on, and we have to get back to Our roots of sor. Of berating our friends.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

But the way you entered immediately contributed something. Thank you seamlessly for the conversation. I was like, it feels wrong to yell.

[George Severis]

I know. It felt really wrong.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You can yell. I love yelling. And I don't feel sensitive about it when someone yells at me. No.

[Taylor Ortega]

Do you come from a yelling family?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I come from a yelling family. Yelling house. I've really had to learn that yelling's not appropriate. You do? Because I don't think it's a big deal. But then it's like some people, like, when I learned about tone, like, two years ago, I was. It like, really blew my mind.

[George Severis]

What made you learn about tone?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like, oh, meeting people from the Midwest.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yes, that'll do it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

When I moved to la, I met people from the Midwest and I felt misread every once in a while. And because they would be like, well, I don't want to argue. And I'd be like, I'm agreeing with you. We agree. I'm, like, enjoying this conversation a lot. And I realized that they. That some. Yeah. Or I dated someone who I guess would yell at me a lot, but I never noticed. And someone was like, she's yelling at you. And I'm like, oh, I don't care. I think it's funny.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. She's literally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

She's literally hilarious. Being verbally abusive.

[Taylor Ortega]

And you're like, oh, are you Italian?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm like, she's like up in arms, like, it's funny.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. I would say the two people that have made me really question my tone are Midwestern, like, sort of Midwestern nice people. And then, honestly, British people. Because sometimes with British people, they will be so passive aggressive, but it's like in their blood. They're not trying to be rude. One time I was taking some sort of oral exam. Academic, not medical. And the examiner was British.

[George Severis]

Both would be valid.

[Taylor Ortega]

And I was living in Greece at the time where I went to high school. And I enter the room and I think I'm speaking normally. And she goes sort of very quietly. She's like, something I've noticed in Greece is everyone's really loud. Like, clearly implying that I am being loud upon entering the room. Can you imagine that? That's really hard as I'm yelling into the microphone.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's really hard.

[George Severis]

I'm sorry that happened to you.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's okay.

[George Severis]

It sounds like you were microaggressed.

[Taylor Ortega]

I fully. I was macro aggressed. I would say.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I would have a hard time. I would be thinking about that feedback. If you can even call it that sort of the whole time.

[Taylor Ortega]

Because then I would. I had to go into the oral exam.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Horrible. Horrible, Horrifying.

[George Severis]

I learned over the last year of working a job that you're not allowed. You're not supposed.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Congrats.

[George Severis]

Thank you. You're not supposed to yawn in meetings. I've learned that people get so upset when you're yawning while they're talking in meetings, and it's like, this is boring.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wait, but like, with your normal, like, co. With, like, a group of co.

[Taylor Ortega]

Workers with the big wigs, or with.

[George Severis]

With either. Yeah, either way, people are saying, sam, stop yawning.

[Taylor Ortega]

You know, you actually have to do nod constantly. This is what you have to do a lot.

[George Severis]

Does that stop you from yawning or just.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, it's just. It makes. It makes you seem like you're agreeing with. And actually, sometimes I'll see it because people do it and it's very phony. Sometimes I'll see someone nod the entire time I'm saying something, and then when they actually speak up, it's to fully disagree with me. But they're doing it in such a kind way.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I like when you're talking to someone and they have that tic where they're mouthing the words along with you. I'm sort of like, I know it seems like you're actively listening, but you're. I feel like you're nodding.

[Taylor Ortega]

And when someone starts nodding before you make a point, like, you'll say something. Like, you'll be like, you know, the thing is. And they are already yawning or already nodding, you're like, no, no, no. Now even if you keep nodding, I will know you're lying.

[George Severis]

I had a friend that would literally, like, finish every sentence and, like, would kind of get it wrong. And I'd be like, just wait for me to say it and then you can. Then you can respond. And it honestly made me be like, I can't hang out with this person anymore.

[Ryan Reynolds]

They're the focus.

[Taylor Ortega]

Also, when you're looking for a word and someone jumps in and they're like. And they're like, reify. You're like, no, no, I'm performing. Being like an intellectual who is looking for a word, I know what I want to say.

[George Severis]

If I could just pick a word willy nilly, I would have picked a word willy nilly. I'm thinking about what word I want.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I'm thinking hard. Like, I'm trying hard to grip on my thought.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And if you say One thing, it's gone. And it could have been important.

[Taylor Ortega]

That word is not going to be provoke. It's going to be something more sophisticated than provoke. Like, I know the word provoke. That's not the word I'm looking for.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What would it be?

[Taylor Ortega]

Insight. No, that's equally. That's actually equally basic as provoke.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God. I can't believe George just said insight.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. What's. Like, there's a group of words. There's a group of verbs. Okay. Bear with me. And I think provoke and insight are two of them.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

And they all mean some version of, like, one thing comes after the other. Provoke, incite, instigate.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

Don't you think? Like, and then they are used almost interchangeably.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But it's kind of synonyms, sort of.

[Taylor Ortega]

But they're not exactly synonyms, don't you think? Like, instigate and provoke or not. But it's like how. Like, how you use them is almost like a power move to show how much. It's like using the word dichotomy correctly. Like. Or even using the word performative.

[George Severis]

Correct.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's one of my comfort words.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, it's a real comfort one. It's a real comfort.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I have some comfort. Comfort vocab words. And my mom has a really good vocabulary and uses a lot of, like, weird words, I would say. And so I definitely have my comfort vocab words. And every now and then, someone will be like, okay, like, you really use that word. And I'm like, well, what do you want me to do? Like, I have to, like, shake it up a little bit.

[Taylor Ortega]

I am intelligent.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sorry.

[George Severis]

I crave more from the world.

[Taylor Ortega]

Do you know what was for me in my twenties? Perpetuate.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Perpetuate. That's an important one. It can sound also sort of like, not condescending, but no, you know, you.

[Taylor Ortega]

Can sound a little.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You can sound sort of like. Or. Or, like kind of holier than thou. Like, it's like, I wouldn't want to perpetuate.

[Taylor Ortega]

Exactly.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Because you're mostly trying not to be.

[George Severis]

You're removing yourself.

[Taylor Ortega]

If you are pro perpetuation, you need to leave.

[George Severis]

Look in the mirror.

[Taylor Ortega]

You're literally Donald Trump.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Don't perpetuate.

[George Severis]

I hate when people perpetuate. I say, walk out the door.

[Taylor Ortega]

What are my pet peeves? Perpetuating.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Same. I'm against, but then sometimes I'm doing it.

[George Severis]

And. And that's. But you knowing, that's your superpower.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, that's exactly. No, perpetuating and knowing that you're Perpetuating is a superpower.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

And that's a topic of my new book.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You have to stop.

[Taylor Ortega]

Don't hate, perpetuate.

[George Severis]

Don't hate, perpetuate. I have a confession.

[Taylor Ortega]

Go.

[George Severis]

My ear has not popped since the airplane last night.

[Taylor Ortega]

That's tough.

[George Severis]

This has never happened to me in my life. It feels like I'm wearing headphones, and it's crazy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And you've. You've tried pulling. You've tried blowing. You've tried.

[George Severis]

I've tried blowing. I've not tried pulling.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sometimes I pull the ears like themselves. I don't. I don't know if you could blow and pull at the same time, but the pull feels good sometimes. Does it at least feel good to pull?

[George Severis]

It actually feels amazing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

But then it doesn't happen fully. Pulling is like, brief relief.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Like, you'd have to hold it down.

[Taylor Ortega]

The whole thing. Yeah. You'd have to just be like, hey, guys, welcome to my wedding. Like, I do.

[George Severis]

Hi, everybody. How's it going? Yeah, we should talk about what we were talking about before.

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, obviously, also, please welcome Taylor Ortega.

[George Severis]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank you.

[George Severis]

Taylor Ortega.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, so much for having me.

[George Severis]

So we were talking about how I'm getting gay married this weekend.

[Taylor Ortega]

And in fact, by the time you, the listener, are listening to this, Sam will married and.

[George Severis]

But we were talking about how there's a flood of gay weddings, which we don't know if that's a. Is that a trend alert or are we just a different age?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think I have no idea. I. Well. Oh, no. My brain went to a crazy place. What is it? Well, okay, so I don't know if how online y' all are or whatever, but, like. Like, a lot of the lesbian pop stars are, like, in becoming straight. Yeah, they're becoming straight.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And in. And in some ways, it feels gay. Jojo's to be straight. Yeah. And in some ways it feels totally trad. Fletcher. But, like, they're becoming straight. And I do wonder if it's like, if there's no possible way for you to become straight. If, like, kind of being like, well, we'll do some of the.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. Cultural getting married is gay guy version of becoming straight.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

That's such a good point.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Participating like family.

[George Severis]

Come see it. You can come see it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, come see it. Come see it. And they're gonna love that.

[George Severis]

They're gonna be like, we're seeing it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

They're gonna be like, damn. It's really like that, huh?

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. Well, there's also a way in which 30s? Our 20s for the LGBTQ community, of course. So all these milestones, not just marriage, but, like, deciding to focus on your career. Straight people doing that at, like, 24.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right.

[Taylor Ortega]

They're saying, I'm gonna open that bank account.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

You don't think hitting the open mics hard was focusing on your career?

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, that's the thing. Yeah.

[George Severis]

Well.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, no, that's more chasing your dreams and. Chasing your dreams and focusing on your career. People think are the same thing, but they're diametrically opposed.

[Taylor Ortega]

They're diametrically opposed.

[George Severis]

That. Thank you for not perpet. Perpetuating that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, no worries.

[Taylor Ortega]

You had a chance to perpetuate and you opted not to.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I didn't want to. I didn't feel right.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I do think you're way too young to get married.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, you're a child bride.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You're way too young. When you said that, I was like, no, it's not. Are you sure you're ready? It's all right. Yeah.

[George Severis]

There is also. It's one thing that I'm. It is the. The big thing with gay marriage, too, is it's like every gay guy on Earth is in an open relationship.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yes.

[George Severis]

So there is, like, the weight is different in a way that I'm like. I'm not sure how to, like, grapple. Like, the normal language around a wedding is sort of, like, confusing to apply.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yes.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What do you say?

[Taylor Ortega]

Both. It's paradoxical.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh.

[Taylor Ortega]

Not to perpetuate using the term paradoxical. So, on the one hand, it is, quote, unquote, less of a big deal to get married if you're open because you're not actually changing anything about your behavior. On the other hand, considering marriage is, like, not a necessary thing for you to do, it's a bigger deal because you could just as well not do it. So it's a real, like, choice. You know what I mean?

[George Severis]

Sure.

[Taylor Ortega]

So that, I think, is what's sort of confusing about it. Everyone, like, is there at the wedding and doesn't know how big of a deal it is.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

You know what I mean?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, that's homo. If they're straight, that's homophobic. They should be assuming it's just as big a deal.

[Taylor Ortega]

But even gay people will be like, grass.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

So do you guys, like, want kids? Is that what you're doing?

[George Severis]

Tell me, why?

[Taylor Ortega]

Is it, like a tax thing?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I mean, it's probably feels, like absolutely amazing to be like, my husband this, my husband that, you know, I think.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, that rocks. Do you Romanticize that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I never, ever did in my whole life. And I guess I still don't. Like, this is horrible. But when I think of a wedding for myself, I'm just like, that sounds like, I can't plan a trip. I'm gonna plan a wedding. Like, that does sound really daunting and, like, crazy. But when I just think about. If I think about, like, okay, me and my partner, like, the very moment getting married, like, that's sweet. I'd romanticize that with the, like, individual person. Yes. But when I try to make it practical in my mind, I go, oh, my God.

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, it's maybe one thing in terms of the trip comparison. I think it's easier to plan a wedding than a trip because it's where you live. Like, pick your favorite bar.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right.

[Taylor Ortega]

You're done.

[George Severis]

Well, it's also. It's more like a solo show than a trip.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. I mean, unless you're doing, like, a. If you're getting married on the Amalfi coast, like, absolutely. That's gonna be hard to go ahead and be tough.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

I wouldn't even know where to begin, to be honest. I have no one to recommend.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No.

[George Severis]

I don't even know the right venue.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know anything about.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I would rather die than go to the Amalfi coast and get, like, married at, like, a venue. Like, everyone's like, oh, it's so, like, tired. Like, that place is so tired.

[Taylor Ortega]

The bride before you leaves, and she looks exactly like you're.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like. She seems more bas. I look basic right now, but actually, in my life, I'm cool. So that's.

[George Severis]

That would be really, really painful.

[Taylor Ortega]

You said something, though, that was interesting, which is, like, the idea that we would want to say the phrase my husband. Here's my take on that. I think the only appropriate phrasing of my husband or my wife is a woman saying, my wife. That is the only time I don't. I'm serious. That is the only time I don't cringe, because straight woman saying, my husband. I'm like, you're trapped.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I literally get a little nervous.

[Taylor Ortega]

Straight guy saying my w. I'm like, don't talk about her like that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

Guys saying my husband. I'm like, are you Republican?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

But a woman saying, my wife. You're like, finally, I feel safe for.

[George Severis]

Me, it's like I'm wanting to, like, code switch when I say boyfriend and husband.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Because, like, say, I'm in. If I'm with, like. Like, people at this job, for example, who aren't like comedians, like more exec types. I want to be like my husband. So they're like, oh, you're not just some.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You're a serious person.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, totally.

[George Severis]

And then like, or like in a hospital, I want to be like, this is my husb. So it's like, you have to take him seriously.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right.

[George Severis]

But for like. But with my girls, I want to be like, this is my boyfriend.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

And of course I could leave him at any second.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Of course, I'm young, I'm.

[Taylor Ortega]

Then I will say, you'll notice this after you get married. You just like simply can't say my boyfriend because it's inaccurate. You just like, can't. You have to do partner or something.

[Ryan Reynolds]

My guy.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. Like, it feels so crazy to say my boyfriend. And so what I have ended up doing is like unintentionally almost rolling my eyes while saying my husband. Every time I say it, people like, do you not like him? I'm like, no. Like, I love him. But you know, husband.

[George Severis]

You don't know. We all have husbands.

[Ryan Reynolds]

When I was like seven, the idea of saying my boyfriend, like, I'm like, someday I'm gonna say my boyfriend and I'm gonna be like 40. Like, you know when you're a little kid and you have no idea what age is?

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I just thought the most adult thing you could do is have a boyfriend.

[George Severis]

Yeah, totally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Not even husband didn't even cross my mind. I was like a boy. Imagine a woman with a boyfriend. Like, that is just so classy.

[Taylor Ortega]

Here's a question for you. You meet a woman, she's 55.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

She says, my boyfriend, what are you thinking?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, you know, what am I thinking? Let me really think. It really depends on what I think is. It really depends on what I think is fabulous. That's the thing.

[George Severis]

She at least parties.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I know if she parties, I'm sort of like, you've never been married or you've been married like five times. It's like one or the other. Yeah. My boy. It really. Yeah. It depends on where, what city she lives in, what kind of shoes she's wearing.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's a referendum on your own biases and misogyny and like. Cause sometimes, like we were talking about gray hair.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

Sometimes you see someone with gray hair and without realizing it, you're having ageist thoughts. It's the same with a 55 year old woman saying boyfriend. Suddenly you don't even realize that you're like, spinster, spinster, whore, bitch, stupid, Bitch.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm like, don't tell anyone stuff. Like, keep that to yourself.

[George Severis]

I have obviously always wanted to ironically use the word husbear. I think that is one of the funniest.

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You're introducing that to me.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, I love that you're just.

[George Severis]

It is.

[Taylor Ortega]

That is. It's one of those terms that only exists in Instagram captions.

[George Severis]

Yes, exactly.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So what type of gay person would use.

[George Severis]

So, like, a bear, like, visiting Dallas would be like, I had the most amazing time with the husband in Dallas.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay. Okay. And. But then. Okay.

[Taylor Ortega]

But they live in Atlanta. Yeah, they live in Atlanta. They're visiting Dallas.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Is your husband. Will your husband be a husbear? Technically, no. A little bearish a husband.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's interesting because, you know, Sam is known for loving bears.

[George Severis]

It's true.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay.

[Taylor Ortega]

I would say her husband is not, like, textbook definition.

[George Severis]

No. He transcends categories.

[Taylor Ortega]

He does transcend categories.

[George Severis]

He's sort of a. He's a larger twink. We called him because he's hairless. And a bear usually is hairy.

[Taylor Ortega]

Thank you for. The elephant in the room. Is that he's hairless.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He's hairless.

[George Severis]

He's hairless. And he has sort of like, dream boy hair, like, on his head.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, so he's not bald.

[Taylor Ortega]

He's like Tina Hardthrob. He really looked, especially when he does his hair a certain way. Like, looks like a teen heartthrob in a. You know, not wb. I'm majoring myself. CW show and a CW CW show.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank God. It's really close.

[George Severis]

Westminster Whore.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's a whore.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank God you have a husband right now.

[Taylor Ortega]

Literally, I'd be undateable.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yikes. But, yeah, no, that's nice.

[George Severis]

But he's still bigger, so it's that combo.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Got it. Okay. Yeah. What? I don't know. That there's not a. That's crazy that there wouldn't be a term for that yet.

[George Severis]

Yeah. I mean, language has still so much room to grow.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right? That's so beautiful. I just feel like gays are so quick to label each other.

[Taylor Ortega]

Totally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We're sort of jumping at it constantly. So that actually shocks me that there's, like, a type of hot guy that doesn't have a name yet.

[George Severis]

There is, like, a. But there is. I think it's a rare. It's rarer than you would think to be hairless.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. And what happens? Sort of what?

[George Severis]

I'm like, what is going on there?

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Do you think he's gonna be annoyed at all?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I can't relate to any of this.

[Taylor Ortega]

Me.

[George Severis]

What?

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, Misha.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

I was like, I'm not annoyed.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He's like, don't describe Don.

[Taylor Ortega]

Perpetuate the myth that I'm annoyed. Wait. Also that perpetuating the either perpetuating the myth or the narrative. If you're perpetuating a narrative, you should be in prison.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What else is there to perpetuate?

[Taylor Ortega]

I think narrative myth. Perpetuating the idea. I think perpetuating the idea a bit.

[George Severis]

Pedestrian, but you can do it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Ooh, pedestrian's good. Pedestrian's really good. Should we do our first segment?

[George Severis]

I think we should.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Amazing.

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[George Severis]

Taylor, our first segment is called Straight Shooters. And in this segment we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions to gauge your familiarity with and complicity in street culture.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay.

[George Severis]

It's basically this thing or this other thing. And the only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or will scream at you, which will feel so natural to you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Amazing.

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, yeah, you'll probably love that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That'll really motivate me.

[Taylor Ortega]

Psycho. Okay, Taylor. Failing the captcha or preparing the matcha?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I do need to ask a follow up question. I'm thinking, what's straight? I can't. Okay. Failing the captcha.

[George Severis]

Okay. Losing the thread or making the bed?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Making the bed.

[Taylor Ortega]

The end is near or your Uber is here.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Your Uber is here.

[George Severis]

LGBTQ or lmnop lgbtq.

[Taylor Ortega]

Being sexist or supporting Brexit?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Being sexist.

[George Severis]

A fox or Smokey the Bear?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Vivica. Hey, Fox.

[Taylor Ortega]

Baked beans. Ripped jeans or Howard Dean's famous scream? Mmm.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Baked beans.

[George Severis]

False prophets or wall sockets?

[Taylor Ortega]

Ooh, false prophets.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Taylor Ortega]

So we rate our guest performance on a scale of 0 to 1,000 doves.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay. Oh, okay.

[George Severis]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I know this.

[Taylor Ortega]

I'm like, really bullish on this one.

[George Severis]

Really?

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Please lead the way.

[Taylor Ortega]

I think this is like over 900.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Taylor Ortega]

And I have reasons. Okay.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I would love to hear.

[Taylor Ortega]

I think you entered this space of, like, sitcom level facial expressions that I had not seen up to this point.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Got it.

[Taylor Ortega]

And it was. You were literally being like the bitchy sister in like, not even Stevens. Because that's. Because actually, I think she could have used more facial expressions. Ren Stevens. I would say it was more of a Chelsea on that. So Raven type performance.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank you.

[Taylor Ortega]

You were really, like, showing a lot with your face and I hope people are watching rather than listening to get the full experience.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank you. I've been told I'm very expressive.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yes. And I actually think, especially in this game, it really worked for you because obviously this game is us doming our guest. Like, we're the ones saying I got nervous.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

We're literally being like, look at these funny rhymes we wrote. And you have nothing to do. Like, all you have to do is pick one that we already said. So you found yourself trapped. You were like, how do I make this performance more impactful? And you Were like, I have to go face. I have to go all face.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I'm a more controlling person than I want to admit, and at the end of the day, I love to over explain. And when I can't, I guess I'm using my face to do it. Because I started out being like, what is more straight? And then I found myself kind of getting kind of just letting myself get lost in the game.

[George Severis]

Yeah, that's good. You know, it's sort of about transcending labels and just, you know, being you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I said I have to quiet my mind for a minute and just, like, actually pick what. Whatever my internal needle is pointing to.

[Taylor Ortega]

And I think that to perpetuate a narrative, the narrative of this game to me is, like, in real time, realizing binaries are not good. Because you think it's about choosing one or the other. It's actually about what facial expression you make while speaking. Like, it doesn't matter which one you choose.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I don't know what. Like, obviously none of us know what our own facial expressions look like.

[George Severis]

That's true.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Which is so.

[George Severis]

That's actually really scary.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it is.

[George Severis]

I've noticed that. I have such a go to. That is not something I'm proud of. And the thing that I wish I could break is I go like, that's cute.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wait, that's cute. It makes you look like a cartoon.

[George Severis]

It's very cartoony, and I can't stop.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think I can do that. I don't think I can. You could do it. I can't do that.

[Taylor Ortega]

You can't do sad face. That's good. You look like St. Heim when she's playing the bass.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Playing bass. That's what it feels like. I know. I think I'm doing. I'm pushing it too much.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

What if that was your. What if your default expression was estihyme?

[George Severis]

That would be tough. Do you ever think she tried to change?

[Taylor Ortega]

I actually think it's the opposite. I think she thinks she's so. First of all, we love Chaim and want them to come on the podcast. I just want to make that clear.

[George Severis]

Let's start there.

[Taylor Ortega]

But no, I actually think, as we've said before, she's a comedian at heart, and I think she loves that. She's the funny one.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I saw it recently. I saw the base face recently, and I said, oh, she's leaned into it 100%. Yes.

[George Severis]

Well, the. The venues have gotten larger, so you have to project.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, no, the smile has to be truly, like, from ear to ear. She's she's like the movie Smile. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. They should do the movie Smile. But instead of the smile, it's behind, basically.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And everyone's.

[Taylor Ortega]

Are you familiar with the Heim sisters generally?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I. This is really. When I first heard them, I saw that it was me seeing them live. They were opening. This was 2011, I think they were opening for Mumford and Sons, and I was its paid ticket holder to that event. You know what? Whatever. The songs were good. I don't care.

[George Severis]

Calling yourself a paid ticket holder makes it seem like you were paid to go there.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. You were a crisis actor.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I found it on Craigslist. They were like, please, we need people to come. Philly Mumford and Sons show. No, I was so excited to go. Yeah, it was 2011 or 2012. And I was like, who are these girls playing all these drums?

[Taylor Ortega]

Yes, the drums were. Cause I saw them in like, probably after you, unfortunately, but like 2013, 2014, and the drum break. I was like, these girls are going somewhere.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Very impressive.

[Taylor Ortega]

We have a game that no one likes where we. It's flopped. It's like fuck, marry, kill. But it's three things and you have to say, which one is Alanna, which one is Danielle, and which one is Esti.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay.

[Taylor Ortega]

And of course, now that I brought it up, we have to give one. Yeah, you should think, okay, here's one.

[George Severis]

Regular Coke. Diet Coke. Coke Zero.

[Taylor Ortega]

Fuck, that's really good.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay. To me, I'm just gonna go with my gut.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Now I'm questioning it. Now I'm questioning it. I think SD is obviously Coke Zero. And that's my most obvious. And then I was kind of flip flopping on these, but I do think actually that I was gonna go the other way. But I think Danielle is Regular Coke.

[Taylor Ortega]

I agree.

[George Severis]

I completely agree.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. And then Alana's Coke. Coke Zero. I mean, Diet Coke.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, yeah, no, Alana's definitely Diet Coke.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And it's based on like, not only the. The product itself and the reception, but also the cans. I'm basing it a little bit.

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, it's basing the visual cans.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm basing it a little. You have to. They're such a. They have such a strong.

[Taylor Ortega]

And I actually think those three cans correspond to how the three sisters are always dressed. Like a little alike, but with their own personality. Like they would. If they were soft drinks, they would literally look like that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

They would have to do it that way. Yeah, agree.

[Taylor Ortega]

Like, similar palette. But, you know, one is a short skirt One is a pant. One is, like, asymmetrical skirt.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The Tina Knowles.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. Well, they're very. Tina Knowles actually designs all their costumes. A lot of people don't know Tina Knowles designed that little bikini top they wore when they did the dance that everyone loved.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. She was in a rush that day.

[Taylor Ortega]

Tina wanted each of them to be different, but that day she was like.

[George Severis]

I'm out of fabric.

[Taylor Ortega]

I have to do the entire Renaissance tour. And these fucking Heim sisters.

[George Severis]

Okay, you're just gonna match.

[Taylor Ortega]

You're just gonna match.

[George Severis]

Should we get into the topic?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[George Severis]

So tell us what topic you've brought today.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Today I would like to talk about game nights. I feel like the more gay my community has become, my circle has become, and moving to LA, it became even, like, I would say 10 million gayer. I'm not really going to game nights anymore. I'm sort of not. And I didn't know if that's because I was single for a while or what it was. But I do think it's like, gay people, they're not doing game nights.

[Taylor Ortega]

When you were going to game nights, describe it for us.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It was sort of like, if it was a very much a couple's thing, and it would usually be, like, hosted by, like, a straight couple who had, like, a nice apartment, they lived together.

[Taylor Ortega]

You were in a couple at the time?

[Ryan Reynolds]

At the time I was in a couple, yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

With what gender of person?

[Ryan Reynolds]

With. It was a lesbian relationship. But what I will say is it was. I've been trying to describe. My partner is six years younger than me, and I've been trying to describe to them lately how there were, like, no lesbians in New York in 2018 or whatever.

[George Severis]

The thing is, you're so.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, you're literally so right.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I'm like, no, you don't understand. Like, there weren't any lesbians. And it's like, if you weren't here, you wouldn't know. But, like, there weren't. So it's kind of like, yeah, we were going a lot of. We were hanging out with lustre couples and maybe like, one other lesbian couple, you know, And I think that was a time where, yeah, I was going to a lot of organized. Like, I do think, like, there, like, organized hangs are very much a thing, and games happen to be an easy way to do that.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Taylor Ortega]

I could do an hour. We could do an hour on how there were no lesbians in 2018.

[George Severis]

Well, it's something where you're like, I fully think that is True. And it's like. But there's no way to prove it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You can't.

[George Severis]

I can't prove it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Here's how you remember this. Like a running joke, especially when we were touring, was like, I am always staying with my lesbian couple friends in every city because I, for whatever reason, have a lot of lesbian couple of friends. It's like, one is in Boston, one is in Berkeley, one was in Philly or whatever. And I was like, wait, if I was out of town, who. What lesbian couple would I stay with in New York? There are none.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Whereas, I mean, I've said that New York is for gay guys and LA is for lesbian guys.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It is.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yes.

[George Severis]

And it's so wild.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's so true. And now there's like, a little bit more. Like, Gen Z has really, like, like, shaken things up a little bit.

[Taylor Ortega]

Totally. Finally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But when I came out, I feel like me. And, like, I would say a handful of friends came out and it felt like, wow, like, everyone's lesbian now. And it's so small in comparison to, like, even today. And. But, like, before. Before I came out, truly, there was, like, one couple absolutely holding it down for years. There was, like, one lesbian couple. And I really am like, what were they doing?

[Taylor Ortega]

And it was Ellen and Portia.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Ellen and Portia and I go, what were they doing? Who were they hanging out with? With George Bush. Now we know. But, like, it really is. Yeah, it was really crazy. So, yeah, it was doing. We were. Yeah, we were hanging out with. And I. I love my straight couple friends. I don't, of course, remember, like, who they were, what they're up to now, but maybe they're all gay now.

[Taylor Ortega]

A huge part of your 20s is going on group trips with straight couples.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

Upstate.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, my God. Because that's the only place to go.

[George Severis]

I almost find it kind of sad because you're like. Like, you do want to make it work. You're like, so we have different sexualities. Who cares?

[Taylor Ortega]

Who cares? It's the 90s.

[George Severis]

It's the 90s. Everyone's bisexual. And then you're like, no. It's like a. It's like an inherent difference. Like, the things that we want to do are so.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. No, you're at the trip and you're like, who cares? And they're like, so we're gonna make lasagna. Everyone get in line. Like, you do the. You do the sauce, and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And when you're on trip with gay people, it's like, yes, people Are still making lasagna, but they're also, like, showing each other their top surgery scars.

[Taylor Ortega]

They're showing each other their top surgery.

[George Severis]

SC choices are wildly different.

[Taylor Ortega]

And poppers are being passed around at the lasagna table. When you are, like, passing the food from one person to the other, it's.

[George Severis]

Also like, there's gonna be nudity in some capacity. And with the straight couples, it's like, no, we're going to bed now.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That would be. Oh, my God. If there was, like. If there was, like, a nudity on a straight couple trip, the way that would be the. Tonally just so inappropriate.

[George Severis]

I would never speak to everyone's families.

[Taylor Ortega]

Here's what happens on a straight couple trips. It's nighttime. You're rewatching Anchorman. Let's say someone goes, I'm going to bed because I have to wake up early tomorrow for a run. Yeah, I have to wake up early for a run.

[George Severis]

Whereas especially a gig eye trip. They are also waking up early to go for a run. But you don't know how they did it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. Yeah.

[George Severis]

You're like, there's so much to drink last night.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I don't like when that's happening either.

[George Severis]

It's, like, really scary.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I don't support that either. I. But agree. I think it's like. And also it's like, is there even. I take back what I said about lasagna. I don't know that there's dinner.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. Or it's like, really minimal tacos. Like one piece of tempeh on a tortilla.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. A cabbage salad.

[Taylor Ortega]

Cabbage salad. Yeah. So what kinds of games are we talking when we talk game night?

[Ryan Reynolds]

So it. I do think, like, you had said that you had. You had spoken sort of about, like, tabletop games, which I do think. I think that still happens. I get a little. I don't like having the rules explained to me.

[Taylor Ortega]

I agree.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I like to play. I'm a competitive person. But I gotta sit through the rules. It's just kind of like, will I ever learn this? But then more frequently. Also jackbox. Jackbox culture. Jackbox culture games, which I do. Here's the thing. I am not. This is not coming from a critical place, because if I have to hang out with, like, a couple people's boyfriends, it is sort of like, there's probably gonna be maybe one that I actually like, vibe with.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So it is kind of like, yeah, we need an icebreaker.

[Taylor Ortega]

Totally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We need an icebreaker.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. And there's no shame in that. Like, I Would rather have the icebreaker and be like, I cannot believe I'm playing uno than literally be talking about the weather.

[George Severis]

I. Even on a gay trip, I find that, like, when you're on day three, it's like, bring out jackbox. Like, we need something to like, oh.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm playing Skipo like all the time with Lesb. But we're sort of doing it like I'm at a bar and we're kind of like, do we want to do a round? You know, do you want to do a quick skip bow or something? But I think an organized game night is a little bit like, I'm bringing like a little six pack and we're going. And I don't really know everybody and I'm going to. We're all going to get to know each other sort of. And none of them are drinking games. Which is fine.

[George Severis]

Which is fine.

[Taylor Ortega]

I actually had an experience recently where I was watching what's Benny show called? Overcompensating. Yeah, I was watching overcompensating and they were playing some either flip cup or beer pong or something. And I really shocked myself because I was like, legitimate. I was like, I want to do that.

[George Severis]

No, I crave it so bad.

[Taylor Ortega]

I was like, wait, I love flip cup.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Did you play it in college?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

I was like, wait, I want to do that so bad. There are other things that are, like, triggering because they remind me of just like where I was at at 21 or 19 or whatever. But for whatever reason, I really have only positive associations with drink.

[George Severis]

I have such positive associations with both flip cup and beer pong. Yeah. And it should be triggering. It should be like, I was proud. I was so, like, actually, yeah, it's.

[Ryan Reynolds]

A bad time in our lives. But I did really like the games.

[George Severis]

Well.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But they happen casually too. Sort of like, oh, a party's going on. Not everybody has to play the game. I don't. Like, we have to play the game.

[Taylor Ortega]

I agree. You know what else?

[George Severis]

That's so true.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, some people are kind of, we're playing a little flip cup. Some people are having a conversation over here. Some people are. You know, that feels nice to me.

[Taylor Ortega]

It has the air of sports without you having to actually be athletic. And I actually think you would think, oh, drink names are so straight. It's so fratty. Here's the thing. I'm just as good at flip cup as a football player.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right.

[Taylor Ortega]

How many things can I say that about that are like, masculine seeming?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Totally. Well.

[George Severis]

And similarly, there's Something the fondness I have for it is because I was like friends with the broest guy on earth, like stay for that like half hour.

[Taylor Ortega]

And they were like game recognized game.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

And they would maybe put their arm around you like this and be like my guy.

[George Severis]

Oh, it's all I ever wanted.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We were sort of having different, I think, experience.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. And then. And then you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And then we would Playing flip cup or something.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I guess it is kind of like flirty to be like, like we're playing flip cup together or like we're playing. Or like. Or like I don't know how to. How do you play this?

[George Severis]

Yeah. I'm such a totally idiot.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Can you throw for me or something?

[George Severis]

I think part of the board game thing is there's a built in safety. It's sort of like this night will only get so crazy. I kind of. This is something I struggle with, with Los Angeles, which this podcast is half about where every night before you even get there, you know what the end time is?

[Ryan Reynolds]

11. Yeah, it's 11.

[George Severis]

Literally clear. And so that's sort of why people are like, well, why would I even go? Because I know it's gonna end at 11.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's ending at 11. Yeah.

[George Severis]

And so like a board game is that all the time where it's like, this is going to be a structured two hours and then we're gonna go home. And I hate knowing that I live.

[Ryan Reynolds]

In LA with a friend who is. And I know she tries to play a cool game, a little game obsessed. And definitely I would say competition obsessed, you know, and so people don't know. But when she brings out a game, I see that glint in her eye that she's barely containing sort of an incredibly competitive spirit. And I do not. I don't mind when she pulls out a game. I will say though, that one time we were here in New York, which she has never lived here. She was like a Chicago person who moved to la. Everything's ending really early. Okay. But this girl has the spirit to absolutely persevere through days and days and days. No sleep. Okay. The most active person I've ever met. And so when we would come to New York on these little short trips, it was like we were out till like 6 in the morning. I went. I didn't do that when I lived here. I don't need to be out that late, you know. And we were up one day at a friend's house and it was 4am and I was like, it's time to go to pack it up. And she's like, let's do one quick round of Anomia.

[Taylor Ortega]

No.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And we did. Everyone was down for it. And listen, I got my head in the game. I got into it. We played a little. But I was sort of like, that's so bold to bring out a game at 4am and to have the influence. To have the influence and the sway to get people to agree with that. No question that people went, yeah.

[George Severis]

I mean, that is shocking talking.

[Ryan Reynolds]

She's a very persuasive person.

[George Severis]

I can tell.

[Taylor Ortega]

But I'm sort of like that. That to me, reads more gay. I'm like, she's gay. Yeah, like that. It's like, folks, she's gay.

[Ryan Reynolds]

She's gay.

[Taylor Ortega]

I think when straight, I hope she's out. You're outing her. Yeah. The issue with what makes game night straight is the obsession with structure and end time and, like, this idea, this very sort of like, parent, like, idea. Like, I just want everyone to have fun.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's like bringing out juice boxes for everyone. It's like being the mom after the soccer game.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I. Like, that's comforting.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, it's comforting. And it's also a fear of the unknown. Like, it's like, what could happen if we start talking suddenly we're talking politics. We can't have that. So we have to play Monopoly.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right. And I will say, though, there's always one boyfriend or husband who really cares about the rules.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I'm really competitive, but I also am. I really think I strike sort of an amazing balance of someone who follows the rules. I don't cheat, but I like to have fun. And if I notice someone kind of cut in a corner, it's like, I wanna have fun. I actually don't care if I win. You know, I'm winning a lot, but I wanna have a good time. I wanna have a fun night. I am mature enough to understand that it's sort of like barking at someone that we don't really know that well is a crazy thing to do and is gonna like, shift the vibe in sort of like a treacherous. To a treacherous extent. And I think that, yeah, I think there always, like, one boyfriend who's kind of like, can we go? Can we go back? And I'm sort of like, I don't know you like that. Can we just hide this part of your personality?

[George Severis]

The way that this has happened to me in a crazy, like, I'm just trying to play this game and someone's like, no, no, no. And I'm like, I'm just trying to play the game. It's just this is my first time I'm learning the rules.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like, and what will happen should I win unjustly? What will really happen? Like what? Who's going to do what to me?

[Taylor Ortega]

So this is interesting. Games are combine two things that are actually kind of opposite rules. A sense of play. And I think that is the straight to gay spectrum. It's like, are you playing, Is game night a rules based game night or is game night a sense of play based game night?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Taylor Ortega]

Because I think you can have a really fun like playing Quiplash and everyone writing, you know, literally every single entry is the f Slur. That's a sense of play.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. And I like Jackbox for that. It kind of keeps like the rule. You can't cheat. Really?

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So that's good.

[George Severis]

And yet some people cheat. Find a way to get upset at literally Quiplash to be like, mine was funnier.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I know.

[George Severis]

And I'm like, you need to cheat.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I have that feeling sometimes where I go, that was a better. Mine was a better joke.

[Taylor Ortega]

Joke. Personally, no. When people win Quiplash because of anti humor, I get so upset. I'm like, I put all the work into doing this wordplay. And you won because yours is like poop.

[George Severis]

Because you put like a smiley emoji.

[Taylor Ortega]

A smiley emoji.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. You're doing it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Get real.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I'm kind of doing both. I won't lie. Like, I'm really. I'm really reading the room and I'm going, what will win me there?

[George Severis]

Well, of course I'll do it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right? So I'll do that. I don't care. If I start to see that working, I'm changing my strategy.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Ideally the whole group, you know, it has more of an improv mentality and everyone finds a similar voice. But not always.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No, no. I1I. This is like so sad that this is a memory I return to a lot. But years ago I was dating this guy and he took me to play games, Quiplash games with his mod team. And I was absolutely murdering. Yeah, okay. I. I was killing. And people were like full body laughing at my. And I was getting some points and I was just kind of like. And I'm not sort of seeking validation in those ways anymore, obviously. But I remember at the time it felt amazing. Like my face was probably fully flushed. Like it's really bad. And he dumped me. Can you believe?

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, obviously men are threatened by a powerful and funny and smart woman. Do you Know, if you didn't want him to dump you, you should have been like. Like, I don't know, pink.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I said everything I possibly could to prevent that from happening. Are you kidding? I told you having a boyfriend was, like, paramount for me. I really was not about to.

[George Severis]

Yeah, I. The times. Misha, my soon to be husband is like, good at Quiplash. He's like a funny guy. But comedians will get upset because they're like, well, I do this.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right.

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, that is the issue with Quiplash is sometimes, if it's not to get too in the weeds, sometimes, if it's a mixed comedian, non comedian group, it actually can be even more detrimental than straight people making lasagna.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right?

[Taylor Ortega]

Like, we're talking friendships are gonna be ruined.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah. It really reminds you, and I say this all the time, and it's one of the most annoying things that I say. It's that, like, we don't even really know who the audience is, do we? You know, we think of the audience as each other. But no, no, no. There's a whole audience out there, okay, who don't. They're not participating in making art. They're just there to enjoy it. And what they're laughing at, I have no idea.

[George Severis]

Very different.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'll never get it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. What are they laughing at?

[George Severis]

Who knows? Who knows?

[Taylor Ortega]

Let's think. No, are they laughing at Esti's comedy routine that she's not a comedian? They don't know who Estie is.

[Ryan Reynolds]

They don't know who Esti is.

[George Severis]

Well, let's start there.

[Taylor Ortega]

This is actually something we've realized more and more, is that no one knows.

[George Severis]

This is part of why people hate that segment.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, people hate that segment because they're like. Like, who are they again?

[George Severis]

Well, by now we compared the, like, casual French rest, like fast casual French restaurants to the Heim Sisters.

[Taylor Ortega]

Pret a manger Paris, baguette au bon pan.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's way harder than.

[George Severis]

And people were like, no one knows what you're talking about.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like, the restaurants, I think it's like, that's very New York. Right?

[Taylor Ortega]

Or like, but don't you think we're not doing, like, you know, Balthazar and the Odeon? Like, you have a bump pan in Boston.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Boston is another major metropolis you're naming.

[Taylor Ortega]

To answer your question, you do.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I've been doing it.

[Taylor Ortega]

I guess you have to name a.

[Ryan Reynolds]

City without a neighborhood.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's like mall and airport places. Like, we're not, you know, we're not doing, like, actually, like, a French restaurant.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, You Know what?

[George Severis]

Okay, I have to ask this question, please. The thing with a game night, ever since childhood, I have, you know, fantasized, of course, about. About sort of a. Oh, we're playing strip poker. We're playing, like.

[Taylor Ortega]

I'm glad you brought up strip poker.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

You think, like, LGBTs across this great nation would be embracing sort of strip gameplay. And yet never in my life has this come about.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, sometimes I do find, like, I feel like once you get into your 30s, you're sort of like, you're starting to, like, cross back into, like, now. That's not appropriate anymore. But I will find in, like. Like, be in, like, full queer friend groups sometimes. Maybe this is getting older, but, like, sometimes I go, oh, this is getting a little scary how comfortable we're getting. Like, this is actually getting a little scary how everyone can't kiss or something. Slow down. You know, I find myself getting more like, kind of normie. But then if you take it. But I've come full circle because when I was in, say, like, middle school or something, if I was at a party very rarely where people were playing spin the bottle or whatever, I. I was panicking.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, for sure. My first kiss was Spin the model. Wow.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And many is. I think that's kind of so cute and romantic now.

[Taylor Ortega]

I agree.

[Ryan Reynolds]

At the time I was like, it can't be that. But, like, I know then I didn't get kiss till I was 15, so that's. It's like, jump in when you get kissed.

[Taylor Ortega]

15 is not that old.

[George Severis]

Yeah, seriously, I was.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I didn't. I had my chance in eighth grade, though. You know what I'm saying?

[Taylor Ortega]

Like, eighth grade is 13. 13.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I guess 13, 14.

[George Severis]

My first kiss was in eighth grade.

[Taylor Ortega]

Wow.

[George Severis]

Interesting.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's cool. That's really cool.

[Taylor Ortega]

Mine was ninth grade, so I'm sort of right between the middle.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You guys. I was thinking I was in 10th grade. Like, that's craz. Like, I was starting it socially.

[Taylor Ortega]

I know. You should not tell them.

[Ryan Reynolds]

People were starting, like, talk to me in a different way. Where I went. I'm missing out.

[Taylor Ortega]

Spencer. Spencer.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm, like, missing out on something. And people can tell. And that was getting scary. So I fixed it, but it was crazy.

[Taylor Ortega]

Here's my theory about strip poker and spin the bottle, actually.

[George Severis]

Okay.

[Taylor Ortega]

The straight thing is because you are so terrified of nudity, intimacy, whatever, you have to make a game of it and you have to, like, play with your own fears about it. Whereas the reason gay people don't play strip poker is because they're already like making eyes at the person they want to fuck. Going into the other room and having sex.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

While everyone else is.

[George Severis]

There's not really the necessity for it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And it's almost like because the potential exists so much. Like I was not really in straight spaces being like, yeah, I would fuck a bunch of people here. Like, no, I wouldn't.

[Taylor Ortega]

Totally, totally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like, you're just, they disgust me kind of vibes. And so if I was in a room full of like a lot of my queer friends, like, I can't tell you how many times it's like my brain is just putting up a boundary. If I were to think about it for more than two seconds, I always, the answer is always like, yeah, yeah, totally. Like, so the potential for sex exists in a way that you actually have to. You can't be playing spin the bottle and stuff all the time. You can't be like making it so easy that all of a sudden everyone's having sex with each other.

[George Severis]

That's true.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's crazy.

[George Severis]

Food platter will go to waste.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Absolutely. And that's another thing is that queer people, when you food platter made me think of this, queer people are having legitimate sex parties.

[George Severis]

Yeah. You know, we have this, our house right now. We're in this back house and it's gorge. And we had like a small pool gathering. We have a pool that we only share with our landlord, it's Gorgina. And we had like seven gay guys over. And everyone's question was, do you have sex parties here? Do you have sex parties here?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right?

[George Severis]

And it was like, wait, when did this become so normal?

[Ryan Reynolds]

They're like, would you want to host? Would you feel comfortable hosting?

[George Severis]

And now it's all I can think about. I. I'm like, well, we need to host. We need to host.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Should we kind of host? I know the last time I had friends go to a sex party, like in la, I was, I was like, oh my God, like I have to get invited to that. Like, what is going on? And then when they recounted it back to me, I said, oh, never mind, I'm good sounds.

[Taylor Ortega]

I know my FOMO of thing of sex related things I'm not interested in is at an all time high. People will describe something to me and I'll be like, that is not for me. That is literally not my kink. That is not my preference. Why was I not invited?

[Ryan Reynolds]

My big fear. Exactly. I want to be invited so bad for my fantasy of it. But then my biggest fear in us, in a group sex scenario is ever making anyone feel bad that I don't want to have sex with them. As if everyone's dying to have sex with me. But I'm like. I truly am. Like, my biggest fear is, like, I can't even be in the space because, like, what if there's someone I don't want to have sex with and I have to be, like.

[George Severis]

Sometimes Horrible animal brain, I think, to, like, almost pick someone you don't want to have sex with. To be like, well, I of course want to have sex with everyone except you. And I'm like. I'm like, once I. Once I decided I want to have sex with that person, it's like, it's over. I can't.

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, because that makes them forbidden. You forbade. You made them forbidden. So then that makes them hot to you, literally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And then why did you kind of. Why did you have such a big reaction? Why? Is it because you want to have sex with them?

[Taylor Ortega]

Right. It's actually the bigness of the reaction rather than whether it's positive or negative.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's like suddenly that person is instilled with a certain light.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like, actually, do they make me really horny?

[Taylor Ortega]

Exactly.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Because there's a lot of people that I can't even see. Like, I can't see them. You know, Those are the people I'm probably not gonna have sex with. But it's like someone who I'm literally like. I'm sort of like. All right, well, hold on.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Is it just like, am I being judgmental that they're wearing a harness?

[Taylor Ortega]

Totally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Does that kind of turn me on a little?

[George Severis]

Yeah. Okay. Okay, here's the other thing. Okay. New York versus la. What this podcast is mostly about.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

In New York, sex parties are, like, in some warehouse somewhere. I know people in LA asking me if I host parties. It's because they're all house parties.

[Taylor Ortega]

This is why I paused when you said that, because I was, like, reformulating my mind. I was like. To host. I understand that people also host in New York, but there's something so 70s about hosting in your apartment that's so, like, key party or something.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

And I. But I guess in la, you just have to go to someone's house.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The problem, though, is that when I imagine that I'm imagining like, we're sort of. It feels like you're at someone's house. And it feels, though it is not. It feels spontaneous. Cause, like. Yeah, you can't have, like. You can't have 30 people or something at your house. And not have a little consent talk. And like a. Here are the rules and like, here's what's going on. Like you have to kind of, I guess do that. But of course that it almost feels like it's like, oh, you're ruining my fantasy of the spontaneity. And when I had a friend explaining it to me, they were like, yeah, like I went over to help set up and like put it like some like plastic and like sheets down. And I was sort of like, no.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, no, not plastic.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I feel like the person hosting needs to be like, if my couch gets ruined, it gets ruined. I have a lot of money for a couch. Like, I think it just needs to. We need to do what we can, though it is not to make it feel.

[Taylor Ortega]

Also, I'm sorry, but putting plastic down to me reads so la.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I know. To me it reads very actually Long Island.

[George Severis]

That's true. That's true.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, not quite in the same. For the same reasons, but I know. And so for that reason, I think I'm. I'm out on like big queer sex parties for now.

[George Severis]

For now.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Please don't. Please keep me in the loop.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, please, I want to know. I sort of am like, there's going to be. I'm going to have a second wave of being interested when I'm like 45 and I'm going to be like, this is who I am. This is a new chapter of my sexual life.

[George Severis]

I listened to this podcast with some 50 year old woman who wrote an article about refining her sexuality in middle age and I was like, ooh, that's going to be so me. I can't wait.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It could be.

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, I feel like you've.

[George Severis]

Well, I already have it. I just want to find it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Double. You want to find it double? Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, right. That could be generational. Yeah, I think we might have. We might be. Have already done it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. No, that's true.

[George Severis]

No, that's a really good point. It's so crazy to be one of the horniest guys on earth and then be like, I can't wait to find my sexuality.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. It's like we might have dug around the.

[George Severis]

Kind of did it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We kind of dug through it. Yeah. What is left for me to discover?

[Taylor Ortega]

I want to bring something into the conversational space which is cards against humanity.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, my God, I forgot about that.

[George Severis]

I hate that you're bringing that up.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I don't think I've ever even played it.

[George Severis]

Really. Do you not have cousins?

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. What's the deal?

[Ryan Reynolds]

We were More of like an apples to apples.

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, sure, sure, sure.

[George Severis]

Younger than you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

All my cousins are my age, but we're sort of of too old for cards against humanity. But then like, I feel like we're.

[Taylor Ortega]

The exact right age when it came out when we were like in college.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Got it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Don't you think? Right.

[George Severis]

Roughly.

[Taylor Ortega]

I guess the only reason I bring it up is because to me it's so emblematic of the larger narrative of games being straight or gay, where if you need straight people need structure to be witty and random. Yes. Whereas a gay person is already going to say a slur.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's what I feel. Cards humanity feels so straight. Because it's like it's kind of naughty.

[George Severis]

Exactly.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's kind of like it's naughty, but.

[Taylor Ortega]

It was already written down in a, on a car that you're picking. Just say like the baby fell down the stairs. And then.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I know.

[Taylor Ortega]

There you go. You did it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I know. And then even that becomes like such a brand of humor that makes me like, feel like such a hater.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It really makes me hate. And it's so. And it's the only, absolute, only exception to that. It's is the millennial urge to joke about 9 11. Like I'll let any sort of normie kind of person throw a 911 in there and be like, you know, like, go for it, whatever.

[Taylor Ortega]

You know, you, you love a 911 joke.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It makes me feel closer to my peers.

[Taylor Ortega]

I agree, I agree.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think it's put like a weird way. Like, I think we do it in a really irreverent way. And it's so tired now to joke about 9 11. But I also think it's like, I can't think too hard about it. But like, yeah, we're probably traumatized.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. It was a defining event of our.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Childhood, you know, to be that young and like be processing that. It's like we're probably so trauma that we're kind of claiming it and being like, I'll be joking about this for the rest of my life, you know?

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It unites us, Cart, science, humanity.

[George Severis]

It's like I'm just realizing that like HR rules apply to most day to day, like straight socializing spaces 100%. Which is why there's sort of like locker room talk even, because it's like you have to be like in a space where only like the boys are to like actually have a conversation.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I don't want to hear like someone's boyfriend and like, do you play cards against humanity?

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, Cards Against Humanity is like, strip. Is like intellectual strip poker. It's like, in the way that strip poker, you're like, this is a safe space to literally take off your pants and show your gross tighty whities. Cards against humanity. It's like, you can make a fat joke and no one's going to be mad at you, which we know is all you've been wanting to do this whole time.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And when you see someone get too excited, it's the same feeling. It's sort of the same feeling of, like, play it cool, Todd. Oh, my God. Jeez. Like, when you see the Glee, it's sort of like, ugh, I can't possibly do this. And you always know the place it's coming from. You can always tell it's not me.

[George Severis]

It's on the card. It's on the card.

[Taylor Ortega]

There's also something. The jokes. It's like, I don't want to be such a snowflake that I'm like, the jokes are homophobic. But the Glee, with which, for example, people will pick an AIDS joke on In Cards Against Humanity. You know what I mean? It's all. It's all jokes that are, like, things we are technically not allowed to make fun of because of PC culture.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

But because we are in this rec room, we can.

[George Severis]

I. They owe, like, 10% of everything they've ever made to South Park.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Because to me, it's also just. They just took that sense of humor and put it on cards.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, but also South Park. Not to defend south park, but please.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I would like for you to.

[Taylor Ortega]

And also, as someone who has recently been rewatching, actually watching Family Guy for the first time and really enjoying it, except for a few really, really bad moments.

[George Severis]

This was me watching south park last. No, no, this is me watching Family Guy last night in the hotel room.

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, my God. You were not enjoying.

[George Severis]

Not even a little bit.

[Taylor Ortega]

Really?

[George Severis]

Like. Like, they'll. They'll make, like, the most random joke of all time.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I can't get into it either, but I do. I do. And I haven't probably watched south park in a good couple of years, but I remember. I at least remember having the experience and maybe it was college of being like, they're geniuses.

[George Severis]

I was. I was gagging upon South Park.

[Taylor Ortega]

Okay, so you're more.

[George Severis]

Was my fav.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I think it's incredible.

[Taylor Ortega]

I wonder what it is. South. I need to try south park as an adult, because I remember when I was a kid and everyone would watch South Park, I did not get it? I was like, this is too. It's almost like cringe or something. It's too awkward. Cringe humor. And it made me feel bad. Whereas Family Guy, there was something about. I could grasp onto what it was satirizing, which was the family sitcom. And that gave enough context that I felt like I had something to grasp onto. For me, south park felt nihilist, I guess what I'm saying.

[George Severis]

But that's. I like.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I like that too. And I do think they've changed the way that they, like, it evolved over time. I do think south park used to be. In the beginning, I think it was sort of shocking for the sake of it in a lot of ways. And then they started to. It started to be more commentary and get really clever, and they were really, really smart about it in a way where you're like, damn, that's a really good episode of what a great.

[Taylor Ortega]

All right, I'm gonna go home and watch that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think probably. Right.

[George Severis]

I think you should. I also, with Family Guy, it's hard not to like. Like, just be like, this is just Seth MacFarlane. Like, it's like one egotistical man.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, it is, right?

[George Severis]

So it's hard sometimes to. To enjoy it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Seth MacFarlane is such a fascinating figure in both straight and gay culture, don't you think? Because he is.

[Ryan Reynolds]

How. In gay culture?

[Taylor Ortega]

Because think about. He is. Literally, he's obsessed with musicals and show tunes.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay.

[Taylor Ortega]

He, like, put out an album of, like, jazz standards.

[George Severis]

Got us.

[Taylor Ortega]

He's.

[George Severis]

He's so.

[Taylor Ortega]

He, like, what he really wants, literally, Tony Bennett, what he really wants is to be a cabaret star. It's like how Donald Trump wants to be a, like, Broadway producer and wants to produce cats. Like, Seth MacFarlane wants to be, like, in a suit with a little. What are those hats called?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Top hat or a top hat.

[Taylor Ortega]

Thank you. With a top hat and a little cane. And be like that. And like, hosting the Tonys.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He could today, I know.

[Taylor Ortega]

In fact, he has hosted the Oscars, I think. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I feel like he could do that, like, immediately to. That's how as an outsider, I perceive him, I think.

[Taylor Ortega]

But then it's like, for his mode of expressing that to be a non PC animated comedy is so, like, taking the gay and making it straight kind of.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Well, even when he did host the Oscars, this is the exact thing you're talking about.

[Taylor Ortega]

He made the joke about.

[George Severis]

He did the song. The song and dance about boobs. About boobs.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

[George Severis]

And it was like, ugh.

[Taylor Ortega]

But don't you think that. No, no, I agree. And that was bad. But that is what's so fascinating. It's like you have this gay instinct to do a show tune about actresses.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Ah, that's.

[Taylor Ortega]

And then you. But then you're like, I can't be gay.

[George Severis]

What's my.

[Taylor Ortega]

I'm gonna make it about their boobs.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It does seem. Yeah. Like a kind of a. A weirdly closeted. Yeah, it's crazy to make it work. But also that could be a real person. Like.

[Taylor Ortega]

And it is.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And it is like, because, like, I think it's like if. If I don't know, I. I don't understand what being gay in Hollywood is like, even as a gay person in Hollywood. Like, what is that?

[Taylor Ortega]

No, it's literally like you think you learn the rules and then someone will be like, by the way, don't come out.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Literally. It's like truly, genuinely. I remember when I got like, I kind of came out, like right before I started like getting work. And then I started getting work and my girlfriend at the time was sort of like, right. But like, obviously like, you can't be like gay in Hollywood. And I'm like. And I was like, oh. Like I already, I was like, I already came out, but I feel like I have sort of like really broad appeal. Like, I think I have like Julia Roberts appeal.

[Taylor Ortega]

Totally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And she was like, like, no, like you. No you won't, because you came out. And I was like, why wouldn't you, like tell me that before I came out? Let me make the choice. I think you should have brought this up to me, like, cuz I didn't know. So I think you should have brought this up to me before I like made the choice officially. And maybe I would have stayed closeted and like dated, had like a beard, you know, but it's too late.

[George Severis]

So I mean, you can honestly still kind of go back in people, right?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, yeah, it's happening now.

[George Severis]

It's happening now.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's happening now. Well, it's been so interesting because I. In a way I have. And then in. In a way, I don't think that I have in that like my partner is a trans guy. And so I've been doing a lot of like my boyfriend, my boyfriend, my boyfriend. And. And yet. And I. And I think I would like some credit for that. I think I would like some.

[Taylor Ortega]

You want some credit?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think I would like some credit for like, she's like, oh, she. Is she straight? You know, I think I would like a little bit of like, yeah, let's play it both ways a little bit, maybe, but when you go in that direction, it kind of feels like it's like, well, you can't really do. You know? You know, you can't go back.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. My friend Maddie has a joke that's like, she first identified as bi and was in a lesbian relationship, and then her partner transitioned. And the punchline of the joke, which I'm gonna butcher, is like, you really can't escape your fate as a bi girl to have a boyfriend. Like, I did everything in my power.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You're getting one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll be getting one. And it does. And it is. And it obviously still functions really gay. But the terms I'm using, I've sort of found myself. Myself letting it absolutely rip with straight friends and straight relationships just being sort of like our guys. Right. Like, straight girl stuff. And you can tell that they don't see it the same way, but they don't. They know they're not allowed to sort of be like, it's not the same relationship. It's different like that. You could tell that they're not. And I'm like, right, girls, we're the same, functions the same.

[Taylor Ortega]

This is very like, have you seen the Stepford Wives remake with Nicole Kidman?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Of course I have.

[Taylor Ortega]

When there's, like, there's one gay couple, but they're clearly like, one is the man and one is the woman.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[Taylor Ortega]

And the. And the, like, butch one is with the men, like, complaining about their wives.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. Yeah, it is. And sometimes it is like that.

[Taylor Ortega]

Sometimes it do be like that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sometimes it really is like that. Like, I wouldn't want. Even if I were, like, had, like, a CIS boyfriend, I wouldn't want a boyfriend that can, like, queen out with or something like.

[Taylor Ortega]

That would be the most, like, tik tok thing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I need a queen out.

[Taylor Ortega]

Having a boyfriend you can queen out with.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I need a. I need a. What do they like? When by wife energy was a thing like, yeah, I'm going to need that. I need, like, I need a boyfriend for sure.

[Taylor Ortega]

Boyfriend.

[George Severis]

Well, with me, while it's like, we.

[Taylor Ortega]

Were talking about how there must be women. We've already talked about this, but there must be women whose fetish is a gay guy. And so they make their straight boyfriends, like, act gay.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, they make them. Yeah, they're making them.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay. Those guys are so excited. I feel like it's so funny how, like, girlfriends are such a safe space for boyfriends to just be like, when you were like, I Think like labels or whatever you were saying, like labels are like, whatever, they're detrimental and it's like they literally are. It's so crazy. Yeah. The, the, the way I've seen. And it's been a long time since I've had a CIS boyfriend, but the, the unclenching that happens when they're able to sort of like really, a couple months in, be this genderless thing that a CIS man becomes when he has a long term girlfriend that loves him.

[George Severis]

This is so interesting. I've never considered this in my life. I've never thought about the metamorphosis of a man in a relationship with a woman.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It is. It is. Yeah.

[George Severis]

It's like essentially like when a gay guy has an older sister.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Taylor Ortega]

I guess it's probably similar.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

Straight men having a girlfriend is like gay men having an older sister.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. It brings out a beautiful side of them. It brings out something really, really beautiful and gorgeous.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's so interesting because the, the conventional narrative is like men almost, it's like having a girlfriend or a wife affirms their masculine. That's the conventional narrative. So. And that's why, you know, quote unquote, incels are so unhappy because they have nowhere for their masculinity to go. But you're actually. And here I'm looking for a word. You are interrogating that, let's say, oh, wow, good word. By saying no, a straight man having a girlfriend or wife actually allows him to put. To become genderless.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes, yes.

[Taylor Ortega]

And that, and that's why incels are more masculine. They need someone, they need somewhere to put their masculinity.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Depends on what you think masculinity means.

[Taylor Ortega]

Totally.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, I always think of like as someone who, you know, has had experience. Like to me, yeah, I think that's really true. I think of like, obviously gay guys are like the most masculine because I think that you're being really honest about your desire for like a partner who is masculine. Like a masculinity, a partner which I do think a lot of straight guys want or are attracted to masculinity. It's, I think a lot of people, I think, like, obviously because because of patriarchy, like society, we're all attracted to masculinity. Everybody is gay people, like all like lesbians. Everybody, like to some degree is. And so you are kind of like, I think it's like so honest to be like, I'm a guy who wants a guy like that's as masculine as you can get. And then it's Sort of like. Yeah, if you're. You're. What do you mean you're dating a woman?

[George Severis]

Like.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What do you mean? What do you mean? Like, you're like, you're. What do you mean? You're using her shower products? Like, I don't know. I'm like, always. I think I've never had a boyfriend who wasn't excited to do like, girly things with me.

[Taylor Ortega]

Wow.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And to admit, also, to admit that you love a woman is like. That's why I'm like, always like, femme for femme relationships really blow my mind. I go, you're powerful. And I wish.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, that is.

[George Severis]

That was really powerful.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's so powerful. I really wish I could be in a femme for femme relationship, but it's just never naturally really found me.

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, really?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah. I think it was just really common. It's like a very rare type of. Of lesbian, you know, to. To do that.

[George Severis]

Well, then why are. Are they all over my TV screen?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Can I.

[Taylor Ortega]

You know what's so interesting?

[George Severis]

If it's so rare, then why is that the one in films and tv?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wait a minute. That's a good cue.

[Taylor Ortega]

Think. Okay, hear me out. Go with me on this. There's this horseshoe theory where it's like femme for femme relationships are both the male fantasy of like two chicks making out, but then also horseshoe around the most empowered.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[Taylor Ortega]

Women.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[Taylor Ortega]

Who are like, we are femme for femme and we are rejecting all masculinity.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, but also it's sort of like the male fantasy of. That is like two straight femmes.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right. Like two women who are doing the very sort of like male gazy. Sort of like whatever. Femme for femme in lesbian terms is like, you have to think chapel roan. You have to think like a girl with a little hanging.

[Taylor Ortega]

And for them, men don't exist.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, no. And it's like, it's very much. It also is that full circle thing of now we're doing like, it's almost like when I think like high femme lesbian, it's. It's like drag a little. It's a little drag and you can. And it's also very clockable, like a. A very fem. Gay woman. You can tell, you know, because there's almost. Because there's something about straight men where they go, not too much. Don't do too much, you know, so when you see too much, you go, that's for a girl. That's. They're looking. They're looking to trap a girl.

[George Severis]

Yeah, Men. It's more sweatpants, hair tied, chillin with no makeup on.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No makeup on. Cause they're very men, straight men. And they live in a. Straight men live in a scary world where girls are constantly trying to trick them and trap them.

[Taylor Ortega]

That's crazy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

They are trying to trick and trap those guys. Makeup. Who did that? Who invented that absolute ruse? I used to be really. I went through a phase where I loved to watch YouTube videos by like old men talking about how not to get tricked in the Philippines. Whoa. And it was very much like, what do you mean tricked? Honey, what do you. What are you doing over there? You know what I mean? Like, what do you mean tricked? Like you're like to do like weird sexual tourism and then just be like, she doesn't necessarily love you. It's very like 90 Day Fiance. Not 90 Day Fiance or. Yeah, 90 Day Fiance or something where it's kind of like you looked for something, you found it and then you're like mad when it's transactional and it's.

[Taylor Ortega]

Kind of like, yeah, whoa.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It is what it is.

[George Severis]

But I love guys and I love guys too.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I love guys.

[Taylor Ortega]

And I actually think we need to have a conversation about masculinity in this country.

[George Severis]

Well, should we do our final segment?

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah. Any final thoughts on game night?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I could have been like, game night. How I feel about sex parties where it's like, I'll probably say no, but I would like to be in, like, kept in.

[Taylor Ortega]

I feel the same way. And I will say yes one out of every 12 times.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I'll be like, who's gonna be there?

[Taylor Ortega]

Totally.

[George Severis]

If like, the dinner party leading up to the game is really fun. I do it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, they're feeding you.

[George Severis]

Sometimes.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, sometimes I have to get married. It's like a whole different world.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, you gotta try it.

[George Severis]

I proudly don't have a single game in my house.

[Taylor Ortega]

I'm trying to think if I do. I don't think I do either.

[George Severis]

We did it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Do you have one?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, in la, yeah. Because I live with a games girl.

[Taylor Ortega]

Rare, so it's not your fault.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's not. It's not. And we're never touching them. I'll be honest.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, we got one pack of cards we're using and that's pretty much it.

[Taylor Ortega]

Cards are a little more Sushi go.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, Sushi go. I played. I played.

[Taylor Ortega]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

Friendship parties? Dancing.

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Ryan Reynolds]

There's.

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[George Severis]

Our final segment is called Shout Outs and we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out. Shouting out to anything that we are enjoying. People, places, things, ideas. We make them up on the spot. George, do you have one?

[Taylor Ortega]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Okay, you kick us off.

[Taylor Ortega]

What's up, cinephiles and letterboxd users. I wanna give a shout out to. To the film Happiness by Todd Salons, which I had never seen before in my life. And There's a new 4K restoration and it was playing. And there was a Q and A with Todd Solange, who is a kooky guy afterwards. And whatever happened to Lara Flynn Boyle? Whatever happened to Lara Flynn Boyle?

[Ryan Reynolds]

What did she inspire?

[Taylor Ortega]

Talk about how women with long black hair, like our guest, are persecuted.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Maybe, I'll say maybe.

[Taylor Ortega]

Where is she?

[George Severis]

Where is she?

[Taylor Ortega]

The great actresses of her generation, she. And she's competing with some of the greats in that movie. And she's holding her own. She's so funny. She lands every punchline. It is a masterpiece, beginning to end. Tat cannot get any funding right now. And yes, partly that's because he's kind of a crazy character, but it's also because our industry is dying and we actually need to rebuild it from the bottom up. And we need to bring back Larafal and Boil. And she needs to be in a new film written and directed by a kind of crazy male auteur. And that is my final request.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I would love to see that.

[George Severis]

I would love to see that as well.

[Taylor Ortega]

Have you seen Happiness? No. Have you?

[Ryan Reynolds]

No.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's like crazy. Do you know the.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I just heard someone talking about this too.

[Taylor Ortega]

Well, I think because it's like back in theaters.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's from like 1998, but it's like one of the early Philip Seymour Hoffman performances. Dylan Baker is in it and he plays a pedophile.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. Okay. Someone was just talking about that. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, I know. And no one had mentioned Lara Flynn Boyle to me previously.

[George Severis]

See, that's part of.

[Taylor Ortega]

Doesn't get the respect.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes, okay, go ahead.

[George Severis]

Okay. What's up, freak losers and perverts around the globe? I want to give a huge shout out to having a plane tradition. A tradition for when you're on an airplane. For me, I. I have been for the last few years. Every time on an airplane, I'm watching Curb youb Enthusiasm. I have never seen Curb youb Enthusiasm on land. I only see it in the air. And now brings up, like a memory of all the other times I've traveled because it's something I do every time I'm on an airplane. I don't know who's in charge of putting on different seasons of Curb youb Enthusiasm on the planes, but they deserve a raise because every time I'm on a plane, Season four, season six, season ten. Yeah, it's completely random how they decide what season is on at any given time. And yet I've never seen the same episode twice. I'm jumping through time. It's one of the most. It's so comforting to watch on a plane. I think due to you're just sort of, like, in a space of discomfort anyways. You're like, okay, why not just lean into it and be kind of cranky with lair? And I think whatever your plane tradition is, you need to find for your yourself. But this, for me, I start watching Career Enthusiasm, and I say, I'm gonna be okay. I'm on a plane.

[Taylor Ortega]

I love it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow. And that's not a feeling a lot of people are having on the plane.

[George Severis]

No.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Per the doors falling off.

[George Severis]

Per all the doors and the explosions and whatnot. Per that type of stuff, which is rampant.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Don't watch the recent season of the Rehearsal if you're getting on a plane.

[George Severis]

It actually did make me afraid of landing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay. And we won't get into it too much, but the reenactments where you see the plane, like, land incorrectly and immediately burst into flames.

[George Severis]

It's very scary.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The first time I got on a plane, after watching the first couple episodes as we were landing, I just. My brain automatically filled it in with like. And then we catch on fire.

[George Severis]

I'm also just like. I cannot. My brain tries to imagine. I'm like, okay, maybe if I, like, you know, think about what it would be like to be on fire, I can, like, get used to the idea. And I'm like, no. What would this look like? Like, Like I'm on fire and I'm wearing headphones. What happened?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Are they melting and you're watching curbs? Sort of.

[Taylor Ortega]

Oh, my God, they're melting into your head. Ew.

[George Severis]

It's crazy.

[Taylor Ortega]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

I better die fast. I don't think you do.

[Taylor Ortega]

No, I don't think you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wait. That's kind of iconic, though, in sort of like a Beetlejuice or like a deeper cut. Like a wrist cutter sort of way. A movie where they. You see how people died. Like, you would have ear.

[Taylor Ortega]

It's very. Final destination.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. Like, you know, final destination.

[Taylor Ortega]

When they die in the earbuds.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

When they die.

[George Severis]

In the Cutters reference.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah. Not a lot of people referencing Ms. Cutters. But it's what. It's one. It's part of the canon of movies. Shout out. Hey. Shout out to movies where they have. That take place in the afterlife, at least partially, and you can see how the person died. The Sixth Sense, the Beetlejuice movies. Wrist Cutters, A Love Story. Full title. It's one I recommend a lot. I haven't seen it in years. I hope it's good, but I think it's probably really good.

[George Severis]

Probably.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think it's a really good, really clever, cute movie for something that's pretty dark, actually.

[George Severis]

Yeah. Well.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

So many film. Film and television wrecks today. Of course.

[George Severis]

No, there's like a specific era of indie movie that. It's just like when I was in college, so I was watching indie movies.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Where I'm like. I'm like, no, there's only 10 indie movies. It's like, no, that's just the 10 that were.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That at that moment, two year period. It's a little. If I recall, it's a little twee. You know, there's a. It's a bit. It's a tad.

[George Severis]

If you like Wrist Cutter's a Love Story, you may have tickets to the Mumford and Sons.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You'll be going to see Mumford and Sons.

[George Severis]

The power that's in Heim in 2011.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. You saw them live.

[Taylor Ortega]

The power that Juno and Little Miss Sunshine have over our exact demographic.

[George Severis]

No, it's crazy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Taylor Ortega]

Because Elliot Page is like, around, like I. Especially in New York. He lives in the Upper west side and. And it's like, you have no. Well, actually, he probably does have an idea. People probably come up to him all the time. But it's like Juno changed the game.

[George Severis]

In a huge way.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It did.

[George Severis]

In a huge way.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It did. It also was a. Lately I've been coming back around. Like there was that first wave of sort of like shame of aging. About like, you know, when like Gen Z are kind of more like the main demographic right now. And I feel old and our things are old. And then sometimes I'll talk to people younger than me and it's kind of like, oh, man, it like sort of does rock to be a millennial. Like, it actually is amazing. Like, one time someone was like, you guys are so lucky. You had like Britney Spears club era in college. Or like.

[George Severis]

And I'm like, that's true.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's so true. Like G6 and stuff like Dancing till the World Ends. Kesha there's just so many phases of our childhood and young adulthood that it's kind of like, God, that did rule. And it was scary, but it ruled.

[George Severis]

The worst part is we'll end so soon. I remember being in colle college and being like bad romance coming out and being like, wow, I'm in college with bad romance.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Like this is something that not many people get to have.

[Taylor Ortega]

I actually felt that way about spring, seeing Spring breakers in theaters. I was like, fuck.

[Ryan Reynolds]

God. Things were just for us and it felt good.

[George Severis]

Oh, that was awesome. Yeah. Well, Taylor, thank you so much for doing the podcast. Yeah, thank you for horrible at the the job of promotion. I don't know if there's plug and promote.

[Taylor Ortega]

Please, any and all things.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Is there any and all things out there to promote? Watch. Please watch Another simple favor on Amazon prime and Four Seasons on Netflix and Ghosts on Hulu if you want to.

[George Severis]

She's multi platform.

[Taylor Ortega]

Wow. Multi platform.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm trying to get on all the.

[Taylor Ortega]

Platforms and we don't have time but obviously off mike gift to tell us which of those is Estie, which is Danielle and which.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh my God. Yeah, I will. Oh, that's so hard.

[Taylor Ortega]

Okay, bye.

[George Severis]

Okay, bye. Podcast ends now.

[Taylor Ortega]

Want more? Subscribe to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month. Discord Access and more by heading to patreon.com Stradiolab and for all our visual learners.

[George Severis]

Free full length video episodes are available on our YouTube.

[Taylor Ortega]

Now get back to work.

[George Severis]

Stradiolab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money players network and iHeart podcasts.

[Taylor Ortega]

Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

[George Severis]

Executive produced by Will Ferrell, Han Soni and Olivia Aguilar.

[Taylor Ortega]

Co produced by Bay Wang.

[George Severis]

Edited and engineered by Adam Avalos.

[Taylor Ortega]

Artwork by Michael Fails and Matt Grubb.

[George Severis]

Theme music by Ben Kling.

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[Bowen Yang]

This is Bowen Yang from Las Culturistas.

[Matt Rogers]

And I'm Matt Rogers and we're the host of Las Culturistas.

[Bowen Yang]

It's Pride Month, and you know what that means.

[Matt Rogers]

Friendship Parties? Dancing.

[Bowen Yang]

Correct. And do you know what the perfect thing to bring to any Pride event is?

[Matt Rogers]

But when we talked about this, I'm not a thing.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, not you. I meant Casamigos.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, chic. And honestly, the only other correct answer.

[Bowen Yang]

A Casamigos margarita during Pride. Now that's a sleigh.

[Matt Rogers]

Ah, Casamigos. Anything is a slay.

[Bowen Yang]

Because anything goes with my Casamigos.

[Matt Rogers]

Anything goes with my Casamigos. Bo, you're a poet.

[Bowen Yang]

Please drink responsibly. Imported by Casamigos Spirits Company, White Plains, New York. Casamigos Tequila. 40% alcohol by volume.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Ryan Reynolds]

It's Megan.

[Public.com Representative]

Are you ready for a hashtag Megan Summer?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Megan. Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan. Would you prefer that I give you a princess out that you can read at your own pace?

[Taylor Ortega]

Megan.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes, it's me.

[Taylor Ortega]

What a shock.

[Public.com Representative]

Etc on June 27.

[Ryan Reynolds]

She is a smoking hot warrior princess. All right, meat sax, let's get to work.

[Taylor Ortega]

Are you going to stand in my way?

[Public.com Representative]

The BE is back.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You think you learned your lesson the first time? Megan.

[Taylor Ortega]

Megan 2.0.

[Public.com Representative]

Only in theaters June 27th for DPT 13.

[Ryan Reynolds]

This is an Iheart podcast.