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Sam Taggart
Podcast starts now. What is up everyone?
George Severis
Well, there's no way around it.
Adam Friedland
We're doing that.
George Severis
We're doing that time thing, which for any new fans is the thing where we record the intro after we've already.
Sam Taggart
Recorded the interview, which of course we usually like to make our guests squirm and watch us sort of try to riff for five to 10 minutes. But this time there was no time.
George Severis
There was no time. It was no one's fault. It just the timing didn't work out. It pains me that I'm looking at an empty chair right now. Our illustrious guest has already left, and I will say, I had the time of my life.
Sam Taggart
I had the time of my life.
George Severis
I could have talked to him for another hour. I want to say, on record, I'm a huge fan.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
George Severis
I literally was just listening to his interview with Amanda Knox, and I was, like, laughing.
Sam Taggart
No, he's to die for. And I think, you know, we don't even need to do much more. Intro.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Enjoy the ep, folks.
George Severis
Enjoy the ep. Here's Adam Friedland. Well, we literally have a podcast about being gay, and it's, like, all thought.
Adam Friedland
It was about being straight.
George Severis
Well, it is. It is, but it's like. But it is good stuff, guys. We got to get. But it is. So many of the listeners are straight women who we love, but, like, are straight women who, like.
Adam Friedland
Well, there's an over.
George Severis
Live vicariously. Or it's. It's honestly the opposite. We've talked about this.
Adam Friedland
You guys hear that about Kirk and. And Candace? People are saying that gay bestie. Gay bestie.
George Severis
Well, they're definitely gay bestie.
Adam Friedland
That's what they were saying. Yeah. There's like a video of them listening. Like a song. Yeah. Like, he's gay and she's his best friend.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Racist.
Sam Taggart
Every night since I'm here, I'm just like. I just go on Twitter and, like, spiral.
Adam Friedland
It's so scary.
Sam Taggart
It's so scary. And every single person is, like, calling for war. And you're like, on Monday, I was.
Adam Friedland
Like, who's gonna kill me? Literally, they're saying, me.
Sam Taggart
Wait, are we. Are we.
Adam Friedland
We gotta get this. This is so good. Okay. All right. Okay. This is gonna be the thing that gets me clipped.
George Severis
No, no, no, no. Yeah.
Adam Friedland
By a straight woman.
George Severis
Well, we. It's like how gay guys. You know, their divas are women.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
George Severis
With the rise of, like, sort of like gay guys in comedy and stuff that now there's the opposite happening where women like Stan. Favorite gay men. Their divas are. Their divas are gay comedians.
Adam Friedland
It's like Barbara Streisand, but first rate.
George Severis
Yes. And Barbara. Barbara Streisand is like, a gay comedian in.
Adam Friedland
Is she Good?
George Severis
Silver Lake. Barbra Streisand as like, a singer or.
Adam Friedland
Like, you guys ride with that?
Sam Taggart
Yeah, actually.
George Severis
Yeah, we do, actually.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
But. But it's not. My mom was really into it. Like, she's a Jewish mom.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Like, I Watch. She made us watch Yentel.
George Severis
And so I would say we feel.
Adam Friedland
What about. What about it is appealing to gay guys because she's kind of uglier. I don't get it. At this point.
Sam Taggart
It's like tapping into the gay history. Like, it feels like being like, wow, like, old gay guys love this. And now I like it too, cuz I get it.
Adam Friedland
I watched. I. I got. I did this red carpet thing, I guess, for hbo, for the Mark Ruffalo show. So I just watched Mad Joan and I'm like, gay guys, I could tell why they like this. So she's like a gay guy.
George Severis
She's like vicious, but she's like a drag queen. She's like. She's like Miss Piggy or something.
Adam Friedland
She's the.
George Severis
She's top five, 100%.
Adam Friedland
She's so funny.
George Severis
She's incredible. And like, so funny on her feet.
Adam Friedland
She. She's like.
George Severis
She's so probably like one of my favorite comedians of all time.
Adam Friedland
I think she's. Yeah, she. For. I think she has to be.
George Severis
When she died, this was when they were like, don't.
Adam Friedland
Don't make jokes about someone who's dead.
George Severis
No, no, it's not that. I. I see that. Well, yeah, and it's like, it's fucking Joan Rivers, Jonah. Sort of my Charlie Kirk. But when she died, I was like.
Adam Friedland
Oh, she got shot.
George Severis
Yeah, she got shot. Who by?
Adam Friedland
Kesha.
George Severis
By a gay guy. By a really crazy rose to Kesha.
Adam Friedland
On the red car.
George Severis
Yeah. Kesha came and was like.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, she was like, it would look way better on a. On. That was her big joke, you know, I love the outfit. It would look way better on a woman.
George Severis
Classic joke about her husband killing himself is like, but it was my fault. We were having sex and I took off the paper bag.
Adam Friedland
Okay. Classic. She's like. She's like, Rodney level. She's like a machine. Yes. Off your story.
George Severis
My story is just that I was like, grieving Joan Rivers and then someone was like, she's a Zionist. And I was like, people are saying.
Adam Friedland
That about Ozzy Osborne. Everything's Israel.
Sam Taggart
But this was before.
George Severis
This was like 15 years ago.
Adam Friedland
15 years ago.
George Severis
I was.
Sam Taggart
He was in really progressive circles.
George Severis
I was in very progressive circles. You know, it was.
Adam Friedland
You're at Bushwick. Yeah, totally.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
Yeah, I was in Bushwick and I was taking notes of who was a Zionist at every open.
Adam Friedland
Dude. Yeah, that was a. I remember that era, like 10 years ago. Fifteen years ago in comedy. One time I went to a show in Bushwick. And I was just. I felt.
Sam Taggart
I just.
Adam Friedland
I felt so bad because it's like, you know, it's just. There's 10 people in the room. Totally. And a girl just like, she did like a thing where she pulled her pants down and then she, like, showed her butthole to the audience with you kind of see her.
George Severis
Totally.
Adam Friedland
And I'm like, they're so close to each other. I'm like, it's for 10 people. It's for 10 people. But do you think it'd be more.
George Severis
Dignified if it was for 200 people?
Adam Friedland
Like, I'm just like, it's a little bit much like you don't have. Your parents are paying your rent.
Sam Taggart
You're sure there's a certain level.
Adam Friedland
Is it funny? Is it funny?
George Severis
Okay, you have an undercurrent of.
Adam Friedland
It's a little bit like, is it. Is it like, funny? Is funny?
George Severis
Like, totally.
Adam Friedland
There's no alt. There's no ra. There's just doesn't. Is it funny? I just felt bad. I'm like, you just relax.
George Severis
I totally agree with you. But okay, two things.
Adam Friedland
First of all, am I being judgmental? I don't.
Sam Taggart
I mean.
George Severis
Well, it's not pathetic. I'm being judgmental with this poor girl.
Adam Friedland
This poor parents of the.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Friedland
With the parents. Yeah.
George Severis
No, it's funny that your mind goes to the parents.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Maybe she was a babysitter. Maybe she was paying rent.
Adam Friedland
You're paying rent for.
George Severis
I remember she's a single mother and she's making. Paying her bills through stand up comedy. Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Maybe not a single. I could tell you for a fact that she's giving.
George Severis
You know, she's getting drink tickets.
Adam Friedland
Like, Bushwick was like Ellis Island.
Sam Taggart
Maybe she had a trust fund and she could do whatever she wanted with her money.
George Severis
Yeah. And that's her money.
Adam Friedland
Her money. Her grandfather invented fentanyl and now she's doing this. Her grandfather started the Iraq war, and now she's.
Sam Taggart
When you.
George Severis
We both listen to the Taylor Lorenz episode, and at some point you're like, she's talking about an event. You're like, was hawk to it there? And she's like, no. And you just go very earnestly. She's so trashy. I think you have that.
Adam Friedland
And you're doing this now, class.
George Severis
You're doing this now with the butthole comedian. This undercurrent, like, just wanting everything to be respected.
Adam Friedland
You know who Mike Francesa is? Do you guys know who he is? Wait. Hilarious. Okay, so New York sports radio is just like, this is this dying relic of like these guys that don't really exist in New York anymore. They're all in Long island. Like, they're all addicted to back pills. They're on like leave for. They're on leave for police brutality, basically. Yeah. Have you ever done governors in Levittown, Long Island?
George Severis
No.
Adam Friedland
It is the best. It's the best place to do stand up ever. Because the combination of drunk and like into it and just like 65 IQ.
George Severis
Totally, you can kill them.
Adam Friedland
You can kill what's.
George Severis
What's tough with people with crowds like that is like when people get loose enough that you're just in heaven. That's amazing. But so often it can curdle into anger. Don't you find? Like you say one, that's Philly.
Adam Friedland
I'm telling you, these guys just want to like, they really. They're. They've been calling in to New York sports radio all day and being like, there's too many blacks on the Jets. And like, you know, they're like, I don't know what they do with their lives. They're addicted to opioids, sure. But like, they just want to have a nice night. Right? But like there's this guy, Mike Francesa, who's just this relic. Like, basically the way sports are spoken about is like it's, it's the. It's so stupid because it's like it's two men having an intellectual style, like debate about. About something that's so meaning like that we fill our lives with. It's like the way I fast forward to being dead. I just sit there and watch it.
George Severis
Yeah. And for us, it's Barbara Tren.
Sam Taggart
Well, I was going to say drag.
George Severis
Race, but yes, and drag race.
Adam Friedland
I've seen a little bit of that. It's not, it's not. I watch girl stuff too. And get. I watch girl gay.
George Severis
What girl gay stuff?
Sam Taggart
Yeah, what girl gay stuff? What girl gay stuff?
George Severis
What are your girl gay things?
Adam Friedland
I mean, Sex in the City is.
George Severis
Like one of my favorite for sure.
Adam Friedland
Because you, you see it with your girlfriend, right?
George Severis
Totally, dude.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Well, no, no, for a straight guy, like, you're like, oh, babe, I don't want to watch girl stuff. But in your mind, you're like, I'm trying to see what this all.
George Severis
Totally.
Adam Friedland
And then you're sitting there, you're like, why is she wearing Aiden's ring on a necklace? Yeah, she's not serious about this relationship.
Sam Taggart
She wasn't serious.
Adam Friedland
And then they brought Aiden back for.
Sam Taggart
No, it's crazy, bro.
Adam Friedland
Don't get me.
Sam Taggart
Were you upset about the quality even just like that?
Adam Friedland
Well, they couldn't have big back because of.
George Severis
I know.
Sam Taggart
Well, but so you think it was a conspiracy? Like they knew that the, the, the allegations were coming out.
Adam Friedland
Finish the franc. That's the point. That was just a little like Easter egg for the one guy who knew what I was talking about. He went on a rant this year about the Mets having Huck to a throw out the first pitch.
Sam Taggart
Oh.
Adam Friedland
And he's like, she gets famous. She has no class. Yeah. She said a trashy comment. And now the Mets, they have this girl and it was like it was the day that they had all the New York City summer camps come visit. And he was just incensed that Huck to was throwing out the first bitch in front of the, the kids. I mean, I mean, I'm sorry but.
George Severis
Like what Huktua refers to is her spitting on that. Spitting on that thing?
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
George Severis
And you're doing that in front of kids.
Adam Friedland
No, she's throwing out a pitch.
George Severis
Well, yes, I know but then the implication is like I give blowjobs.
Sam Taggart
And also when they like when the lower third comes up, is it like I bet you know, talk to a girl?
George Severis
Well, you're. That vers. It's like the sports guys being mad about how to a girl that the, the gay version of that is like.
Adam Friedland
A 75 year old man from Long Island.
George Severis
Well, yes, but then gay guys are like watching and just like that being like, you know, they have a different costume designer now and that dress is fucking trash.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Well, I kind of like, honestly, I'm gay. I'm gay about it.
George Severis
Totally.
Adam Friedland
I know the seasons where Carrie looks good. I know the seasons where she.
George Severis
Yeah, she looks friend.
Adam Friedland
She's a friend. She looks like she was dragged through a bush.
George Severis
Well, it's, it's when she has curly. Curly versus straight hair. She can't have. She can't have straight hair.
Sam Taggart
And yet she keeps having it.
George Severis
And yet she keeps having it.
Adam Friedland
You know what's really nice about the, the new show is that the plastic surgery that Charlotte had is like if Charlotte was real, she would have had that plastic surgery. How cool is that?
George Severis
Well, I would say that's true for all of them because then Miranda, who has had way less work done, of course she's a lawyer. She's more serious. She would not have had as much work as Charlotte. She's a cunt. Is that what he said?
Adam Friedland
Why does she do that though? She's so selfish. I mean like Listen, she works as.
George Severis
A character or Cynthia.
Sam Taggart
What?
Adam Friedland
No, I don't know her. Like, what she did with Steve. I mean, I am.
George Severis
Oh, yeah. She's completely selfish.
Adam Friedland
I'm like a guy who's deaf and, like, accidentally doesn't realize my wife is a lesbian. What's going on? I love you. Yeah. I also.
George Severis
I don't have patience for people who, like, hold it in for so long and then blow up. It's like, why didn't you tell me day to day that I was. That you weren't unsatisfied? Well, I'm also trying to change.
Sam Taggart
You were like, you had your whole 30. Why weren't you, like, I'm bi now or whatever? It's so confusing.
Adam Friedland
He's just watching the game. He's just sitting there. It's gonna happen to me.
Sam Taggart
I tell.
Adam Friedland
But I feel like, you know when a mom gets that haircut.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. It's over.
Adam Friedland
And it's like, yeah, what is that? It's like, what age is that? It's like, I'm not a woman. Oh, I got girls. We're being bad.
Sam Taggart
We're being bad. I want to say event just like that.
Adam Friedland
In the Midwest, it happens.
Sam Taggart
It happens all the time. And it's. It's scary because you see it and you're like, you used to be somebody.
Adam Friedland
My mother was elegant. She was elegant for her.
George Severis
And she got the mom haircut.
Adam Friedland
No, she never did.
George Severis
Neither did mine.
Adam Friedland
My mom was like, because what, your mom's an immigrant? Yeah, mine too.
George Severis
And it's not like. Not only she an immigrant, she then moved back. My parents live in Greece.
Sam Taggart
Okay.
George Severis
In Greece and Athens.
Adam Friedland
Dude, these jeans from Greece. Have you been to that guy in Athens?
George Severis
No.
Adam Friedland
I don't want to say it on a podcast, especially with all these gay guys listening.
George Severis
Oh, you don't want them.
Adam Friedland
There is a gene savant.
George Severis
You know, this is from Greece, from a short. A store called. It's a shirt.
Adam Friedland
I have an. It's a shirt.
Sam Taggart
Really?
Adam Friedland
Yeah. But it doesn't fit me that good.
George Severis
Well, it's. You have to be comfortable with it being just like, oversized and gloopy. Like, I'm seeing a more form fitted.
Adam Friedland
I don't know. I wear what she tells me. My. Your mom or your mom said, but kind of. Yeah, before that.
George Severis
Before Girlfriend.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. She would go, like, when I started stand up, she would, like, be like, I was such a dickhead. She was. I was like, wear a hoodie. Right? Like, this is like 15 years ago. And I'm like, it doesn't matter what you wear. It matters. Your. The jokes matter, right? And she's like, she'd go to like Banana Republic. She's like, Adam, like, instead of like, maybe a hoodie, like, I would. I got you like a nice, like a Shabbat shirt. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not gonna wear that shit, mom. I'm like a real, like, so nice. She like, went to the. She went to the mall to get me a nice shirt so I could look like a nice boy up there.
Sam Taggart
So now girlfriend dresses.
Adam Friedland
I mean, if she says it looks nice, I'll wear it.
Sam Taggart
Because you walked in, you said. You said, I have to go to the bathroom. You walked out. We said fashion.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Good, good clothes. Yeah.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Oh, thanks.
George Severis
Yeah, you look great.
Adam Friedland
She says, well, she says, if it looks good. And then I. But in Athens, there's. I got these jeans from this guy.
George Severis
Are they vintage?
Adam Friedland
Who's a savant.
George Severis
Okay.
Sam Taggart
Like, he makes them for you.
Adam Friedland
He's the most emasculate. No, no, it's the most emasculating thing in the world because he looks like at your girl's body and he's like. It's like Harry Potter. It's like he's going through the wands and he has this archive of vintage jeans and he makes her ass look better than it's ever looked. Ever. Yeah. And he did it in front of me and I'm like, what do you. It's. It strikes. It feels like cheating. Yeah, it feels like. What do you do? Like? It feels a little intimate. Yeah. But I got these jeans from that guy too. Wow.
Sam Taggart
So you guys had like a threesome? Basically.
Adam Friedland
Basically, yeah.
George Severis
That guy that got denim based threesome.
Adam Friedland
That was incredible, dude. Honestly, it was the sexiest thing I've ever seen my entire life. This guy, just knowing what the jeans in his, like, in his Harry Potter like, wand store collection, he's like, I've got you. And he's like. And he throws it at her. And it's just.
George Severis
I'm gonna have to get that record.
Sam Taggart
I know.
Adam Friedland
I'll tell you, but I'm not gonna let any of these freaking jackals.
George Severis
No, that's good. That's good.
Adam Friedland
I don't even live in Athens.
George Severis
No, but it's overrun by tourists and I actually, like, regret ever recommending anything to anyone. And I'm no longer even inviting people to stay with us.
Sam Taggart
You just recommended. It's a shirt.
Adam Friedland
Where do they live?
George Severis
They live in Athens in a Suburb of Athens. It's not. But. But my grandmother lives in the center of Athens in like, what My whole life was sort of a middle class neighborhood. And it has now become Bushwick. It, like, when I tell you, she's like, is what it's called. It's very. It's close to it. It's a shirt.
Adam Friedland
Oh, that's the one. It's like up like a little bit. Like, there's like.
George Severis
No, it's. No, it's like, it's. It's sort of close to. And close to all those places where people say, yeah, but she, like, you know, she's used to like her community. She goes to farmers market, whatever. Now she leaves her apartment. It's like digital nomads on their laptops, DJs. It's like Berlin.
Adam Friedland
I was thinking that about the immigration thing. Like, it's so unfair. Like, it's such a bad trade for, like Mexico sends over, like, people that like, work so hard. They do like the worst thing and.
George Severis
We send over creative directors like Emily in Paris. It's crazy. Yeah, like, crazy.
Adam Friedland
It's like the worst trade. Like we said, they said over nice guys that are just trying to like, make more money for their family. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
It's really not right.
Adam Friedland
Work so hard. Yeah.
George Severis
Well, it's also like they. The explanation is they're assimilating, whereas Americans are going and opening a banana republic. Like, they're doing the opposite of assimilating. They're like building America in Mexico City.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah. Like a bagel store.
George Severis
Yeah, like a bagel store.
Sam Taggart
Okay. To go to just like that again.
Adam Friedland
Oh, yeah.
George Severis
Also, you still owe us two girl gay things that you like.
Adam Friedland
Oh, well, I got. Well, so when you go to Europe, like, I just went to.
George Severis
Going to Europe definitely say, well, that's very gay. Okay.
Adam Friedland
Can I ask you guys a question?
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Why are you guys so good at Airbnb?
George Severis
Like, as host, like, running it.
Adam Friedland
Gay guys. Well, did you know incredible at. At vacation.
Sam Taggart
Like picking the right one or just.
Adam Friedland
Picking the perfect place with the. The best. The best view, the best location.
George Severis
Oh, yeah. Why are gay guys good at vacation?
Adam Friedland
You guys are incredible.
George Severis
No, it's true.
Adam Friedland
You were with my girlfriend's, like, best friend from growing up who's gay.
George Severis
And I like that you whispered that.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, he's gay. No, he's like.
Sam Taggart
He's.
Adam Friedland
He's just. He said right at the end of. In Marseille that he was like, he's like, I just got invited to Capri. And he like, I'm like, you're going on a second vacation in a row. I'm like, that's incredible. I feel bad about one vacation.
Sam Taggart
Well, it is.
Adam Friedland
I feel guilty the entire time.
Sam Taggart
It's like almost a disease where you have to be on vacation. Like, the moment you stop, you start to crumble.
Adam Friedland
It just sounds happy. It sounds like you guys are just happy.
George Severis
I mean, there's an extent. No. But there's also a toxic sort of competitive thing within.
Adam Friedland
It's like, oh, Airbnb.
George Severis
It's. Honestly, it's. No, be honest. It's the same thing as, like, so often straight guys we have on this podcast will say, like, what is it like to be more loose about sex or whatever? Or, like, be. All the relationships are open and all this stuff. And it's like, on the one hand, it's obviously very liberating, but on the other hand, when nothing is off the table, you spend your entire day looking at people on a map and being like, okay, well, if I go this. If I go in this direction for three blocks, then that's faster than if I go in that direction for five blocks.
Adam Friedland
That's all. I mean, that's too strange.
George Severis
And in the meantime. In the meantime, you've watched three films with your girlfriend and made a delicious Bolognese at home.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
Yeah, exactly.
Adam Friedland
I don't even like having sex anymore. Like, if you make a nice dinner and we put on a girl show, we fall asleep on the couch.
George Severis
That's.
Adam Friedland
That's so romantic. Yeah, that's. That's love to me.
George Severis
Okay, so. But you. But now you're.
Adam Friedland
But I got a little leather bracelet. Every time you go to Europe with your girl, and you're like, you look so good on vacation. She looks so good. You're on a beach. And then I'm like, I'm gonna do something slightly like. What about a tiny leather bruise? Totally. I'm gonna come back for my.
George Severis
I think it looks great.
Adam Friedland
It's the equivalent of, like, getting a cornrows in Jamaica.
George Severis
You should actually do that.
Adam Friedland
You should do that.
George Severis
That would be slick. But you know what you're describing, though? You're. You're describing the first stages of becoming Steve, which is your biggest fear. You're saying I don't even like sex. Oh, you. You are embracing Burger Steve.
Sam Taggart
You're Burger, too.
Adam Friedland
Burger's my favorite Carrie boyfriend.
Sam Taggart
How come?
Adam Friedland
Because he's probably a better writer than her. She's writing some whore book, right? He's probably David Foster Wallace. No one cares.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
No, and actually, everyone, like, gives him so much shit about the post it. When I told her I had her on the show, I told her that. And everyone's like, steve. Well, I'm like, he's the cutest one. Can we be real? He's.
George Severis
No. Steve is definitely.
Adam Friedland
No, he is the cute Ron Livingston. We love him.
George Severis
No, you're talking about. Oh, burger.
Adam Friedland
Or wait. Burger is the cute.
George Severis
I don't think burgers.
Adam Friedland
Oh, I think Ron Livingston.
George Severis
Well, he's the cutest one.
Sam Taggart
He's. Yeah, he is.
Adam Friedland
Well, who do you like? Big. Yeah. Oh, you like Armani suit kind of guy?
George Severis
I sort of do. And I think.
Adam Friedland
I'm a burger.
George Severis
Yeah, but where's Burger at 55.
Sam Taggart
He's like a suburban father.
Adam Friedland
Burgers. All I'm saying is it must be so you can. First of all, you can't date someone else in show business, Right? Yeah, he's bound to fail, but he's definitely a better writer than her.
George Severis
Well, guess what?
Adam Friedland
And it must have been so annoying.
Sam Taggart
Well, this is what's frustrating about this.
Adam Friedland
She's way more successful for her fucking. Her fucking column. Yeah. He's like, I went to the Iowa Writers Workshop. I studied under Kurt Waggan, and it's doing nothing for me. Well, they.
George Severis
Yeah, but that is.
Sam Taggart
This is how the characters are becoming the actors. Also, like. It's like Sarah Jessica Parker likes to read a lot. That's like her whole thing.
Adam Friedland
You know, She's a friend.
George Severis
Booker friend.
Sam Taggart
So then it's like, okay, well, now Carrie has to actually be intellectual. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. She was always supposed to be sort of a trash writer.
George Severis
She's a. She's a dumbass.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
I mean, she's riding a sexually perverse column of.
George Severis
Yeah, but she's also the biggest prude you've ever seen. Every. Every.
Adam Friedland
Don't get restored.
George Severis
Every column. Every column is literally her being like, you know, I don't know. I'm going to church.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
So wait, when you say Sarah just. Barker's a friend, what do you mean?
George Severis
Well, she was on the pod.
Adam Friedland
Do you guys think I did a good job?
George Severis
Yes, actually.
Sam Taggart
Like, you' that one episode.
George Severis
What? What?
Adam Friedland
Oh, no, no. Her son was, like, a big cometown fan, so that's how. But I was, like, walking on the street and I heard, adam, I love your work. And I was like. I turned around, I was like, oh, just like that.
Sam Taggart
Wait, that's.
Adam Friedland
And it was.
George Severis
I was like.
Adam Friedland
It was the great. I called my sister.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, no, that's Huge.
Adam Friedland
I was like, you are not going to ballet.
Sam Taggart
And she came up to you. That's shocking.
Adam Friedland
She was, like, waiting for the. For the jitney in East Hampton.
Sam Taggart
Okay.
Adam Friedland
She said on the show she was waiting for a bus. Oh, I don't want to call out a friend. She's the people's princess, dude.
George Severis
She's the people's princess of the Hamptons.
Adam Friedland
She's kind of like.
Sam Taggart
She's.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Well, I asked her about this. It is interesting because, like, some of the most useless people in the world moved to New York.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Like, because they wanted to be her, Right?
George Severis
Yes.
Sam Taggart
I mean, so she is sort of. You know, there's something interesting happening here where she is. To, like, people, like, women that move to New York to be fabulous. To, like, like. Do you feel that, like, Cometown had that influence on, like.
Adam Friedland
Oh, nice. Good question.
George Severis
Very good. Very good.
Adam Friedland
I think in retro, I've. I didn't really. We didn't listen to it at the time. We thought it was bad. And then I think YouTube, there's, like, fan clip compilations. It was mad funny.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
I had no idea. We were like, this is dog shit. We were, like, depressed. We were, like, getting arguments about lunch.
Sam Taggart
It was, like, popular before the clip compilations, right?
Adam Friedland
No, I think that's how it got popular. Oh. Because we, like, Nick had, like, a no talking to the. No press policy.
George Severis
Really?
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah. Because. And I think he was smart because, like, eight years ago, it was like, every article was like a. But, yeah. Yeah. They're Nazis, you know? Yeah.
George Severis
So can I actually ask you about that?
Adam Friedland
This is like.
George Severis
Okay, so we did not listen to Cometown, not because of any personal thing, just because we spend all our time with comedians. So we don't want to, like, listen to a comedy podcast. Is that.
Adam Friedland
I don't listen to podcast.
George Severis
Yeah. Like, you don't want to, like, why would I listen to, like, more comedians?
Adam Friedland
Yeah. And so a sports podcast.
George Severis
And so. And we are friends with Stav and, like, really love him. From old country. Yes. And he's, like, the sweetest guy. And then we would go online, and it would become, like, Cometown would be, like, a synonym for, like, dirt. What is it? Dirt bag. Like, for, like. For like, the. Or it's like, oh, my God. These depraved guys who say slurs.
Adam Friedland
Everything was shock.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
I think in retrospect, it was, like, nice that we were, like. We were voting for Bernie.
George Severis
Totally.
Adam Friedland
Right. We also made cheeky jokes.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
I think it was kind of nice for kids, right? No.
George Severis
I do think it was a children's show.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
I mean, it's literally, it was three 30 year old men behaving like 11 year olds.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Like, Yeah. I mean, like, but it. Yeah.
George Severis
But then I think on the other side of things then people tried to almost overcompensate for that and be like, no, they are actually the way forward for the political left.
Adam Friedland
Oh, that's.
George Severis
It's like. Well, no, that's also.
Adam Friedland
Well, now they're saying. Yeah, now there's three articles that came out that said I'm like, that I know how to read and stuff.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Joe Rogan on the left. How do you feel? How does that feel to be like, like going serious mode. Being dubbed serious.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
If I'm the best they got, like, fascism is over. America's done well for sure. They're trying to platform me.
Sam Taggart
They're saying, you're going Jon Stewart mode.
George Severis
Yeah, you're going Jon Stewart mode. What's up?
Sam Taggart
That's what they're all saying.
Adam Friedland
I don't know what the I'm talking about. I mean, like, I last. I. I listened to audiobooks.
George Severis
Huh.
Adam Friedland
Last book I read on with my eyes was Harry Potter 8. Probably.
George Severis
That's not.
Sam Taggart
That's not true.
Adam Friedland
Reading with my. Oh, no. Beach read. Yeah. Like I read like the first 25 pages of. I tried Flo Bear on this last trip.
George Severis
Oh, yeah.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
George Severis
Oh, that's really diving into the deep and.
Adam Friedland
Because if you haven't read since Harry.
George Severis
Potter, don't go Flaubert. Maybe start with the Sally Rooney. Okay, sure.
Adam Friedland
No, I listen about presidents in history.
George Severis
Oh, you. Oh, you're one of those guys.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, presidents.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. That checks out.
Adam Friedland
That's cool.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
So what's your. Who's your favorite president?
Adam Friedland
Well, care. The character, the writer.
George Severis
He is in Sex in the City.
Adam Friedland
Who's the best, like writing or who's the best president?
George Severis
I think who's. No, I think the best character. Like, who's the most cinematic.
Adam Friedland
Nixon.
George Severis
Oh, yeah, that makes sense because you.
Adam Friedland
Like a bad girl. He's not a bad girl. He's a.
George Severis
He's like insane. He's.
Adam Friedland
No, he's not. He's a. He's his whole life, people are like, you, you. His whole life. Like, yeah, his whole life. They're like, oh, it's Richard Nixon. Like, he kept running for things and losing.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Oh, damn. You know how he courted his wife? This is my favorite thing in the world. He was like, okay, can I. You want to go out with me? And she Was like, no, you're Richard Nixon. You're disgusting.
George Severis
Uhhuh.
Adam Friedland
And he was like, well, can I chaperone you on dates? And then for 18 months, he, like, took her out with other guys. You watched her on other up.
Sam Taggart
Damn good writing, though.
George Severis
That's amazing. He's like the first screen.
Sam Taggart
Was the first cuck president.
George Severis
Yeah, first cuck president.
Adam Friedland
I don't know. Cuck.
Sam Taggart
I mean, like, no, I mean, he's watching.
George Severis
He's literally watching her.
Adam Friedland
And then like, a more handsome guy beats him because he cheated. Yeah. Yeah, like jfk. Everyone just his whole life, they're like, oh, Richard Nixon's here.
Sam Taggart
Do you think it's possible. We've talked about this before. People that just, like, have an inherently bad energy to them. Do you think it's possible to fix stuff? A person with a bad vibe?
Adam Friedland
Oh, that's a deep question. I mean, I think you are who you are, kind of. Damn. Do you think people really change? This is a. Whoa.
George Severis
No, but I. But seriously, because they ever really change. Classic thing is like, okay, if someone is sad or if someone is unhappy, you can tell them, okay, go to therapy. And that is a way you can change. But if. But if it's more who you are, that's exactly. Like, if you have a bad vibe, your therapist is not going to admit that to you. Like, you need a doctor to.
Adam Friedland
To.
Sam Taggart
To diagnose.
George Severis
Do like a vibe transplant where it's.
Adam Friedland
Like, is that a real thing?
George Severis
Yeah, I don't know.
Sam Taggart
It should be.
Adam Friedland
Sometimes you're just always Richard Nixon.
Sam Taggart
That must have been so hard.
Adam Friedland
And he made it to the fucking show, dude. He made it all the way to the top. And then they took it away. So how you don't think it's normal to spy on the other campaign? I. I have to say I'm not the most normal.
Sam Taggart
When you put it like that. I'm like, oh, no, you're totally right.
Adam Friedland
And then after he. He left, he was like the same people. They got Jack Kennedy, got me, but, like, they can't kill you anymore.
George Severis
No. The reason Watergate is. Looms so large is just because it, like, it. It serves to validate so many American mythologies. Like the. The. The brave journalist, the. The throat deep. Throat.
Adam Friedland
Blow job.
George Severis
Blow job. Sort of like the idea that, like, there's no place for corruption in America. The idea that the. The office of the President is really respectable. Like, it's not. It's. It's like a story. It's like story time.
Sam Taggart
Also, it has a punchy title. Watergate.
George Severis
Watergate.
Sam Taggart
I'm like, whoa, what happened there? That sounds serious.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Dude. Speaking of rip, Robert Redford, most handsome guy ever.
Sam Taggart
For real shout out.
Adam Friedland
We all moved up one spot, right?
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Who's.
George Severis
Who's now most handsome?
Sam Taggart
Who's now most handsome?
Adam Friedland
John Fetterman. Wait, should we do.
George Severis
Should we like do our segments?
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Oh wait, yeah, we gotta.
Sam Taggart
You should do our first segment.
Adam Friedland
Study straight people.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that.
Adam Friedland
It's a little bit like Mengala, right? Well, it's a little study you in a lab.
Sam Taggart
Look, it's.
George Severis
We've gone easy on you this far, I would say.
Adam Friedland
Okay, go ahead.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, this is very non traditional so far.
George Severis
This is not going to be stuff like yeah, this what we're doing now. This is not going. This is stupid.
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Everyone loves me at the cancer and then the Aries comes out and they.
Adam Friedland
Say, who the is that?
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No, you're gonna come for me being an Aries and you have a sag moon.
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Get outta here. But I'm a Capricorn rising, so that honestly balances it out and makes me more likable. Okay, that is your Capricorn talking. Listen to High key on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you your podcasts.
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Sam Taggart
So our first segment is called Straight Shooters. And in this segment we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions, basically this thing or this other thing and you have to choose one. And the only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or we'll scream.
Adam Friedland
Okay.
George Severis
Yeah, you just. It's really like rock shock tests, oppositional defiance. Totally.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, no, that.
Adam Friedland
I don't like games. I don't have fun. My girlfriend likes activities and games. It's a big.
George Severis
You love bringing up your girlfriend.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, fiance.
George Severis
Really? Congratulations. You know, we're both married.
Adam Friedland
Are we.
Sam Taggart
Are we scooping the story Married?
George Severis
Yeah, we're both not. To each other.
Sam Taggart
To each other? Yeah.
George Severis
To our husbands.
Adam Friedland
Mazel tov. How long have you guys been married?
George Severis
We both got married this calendar year together.
Sam Taggart
Like the same.
George Severis
Is that crazy?
Adam Friedland
No, it's competitive. Dude, gay being gay is like capitalism.
Sam Taggart
No, it's not.
Adam Friedland
It's survival.
Sam Taggart
Sometimes it is.
Adam Friedland
Sometimes it is. Sometimes when you're saying you're looking for blocks on a. On an app, that's so complicated.
George Severis
No, I know, I know.
Sam Taggart
No, it sucks.
Adam Friedland
But guess what?
George Severis
It's like it's too much Work.
Sam Taggart
But if you're.
George Severis
But don't you think. But is that. Is the blocks thing. Okay, Cox, no context map. Is that more or less capitalist than Tinder where it's like bio your self branding. Swipe left, swipe right. To me, that's more toxic than blocks on a map.
Adam Friedland
Is it like that, though? I don't know. I'm 38, so. Yeah, but you.
George Severis
How long are you online dated?
Adam Friedland
Kids don't anymore. I think so.
Sam Taggart
They say it's so weird because they're like. They keep saying that and I'm like.
Adam Friedland
And a half years.
Sam Taggart
How do I prove it? Because, like, I'm not gonna.
George Severis
I'm sorry. The whole kids don't. Is talk about like a difference between straight and gay.
Adam Friedland
Gay. Young gay guys stay at home for two years.
George Severis
Young gay guys are.
Adam Friedland
Young gay guy. Yeah, because they're happy. Yeah.
George Severis
So I just don't relate to that.
Adam Friedland
No, I. For. For us, it's just like, I'm never gonna understand a girl, but I'm gonna try as hard as I can my whole life, get as close as I can.
George Severis
Okay.
Adam Friedland
I fully understand. It's kind of beautiful.
George Severis
Kind of.
Adam Friedland
Okay, it's romantic.
Sam Taggart
No, there's something to it.
Adam Friedland
There's something lovely about it. Like, I'm like, what are you talking about?
George Severis
God, this is so interesting. The idea that it's more romantic to never understand one another. Well, because I think we understand each other too. Not you and I, but like, you guys understand each other too well. Because it's like. Like everything is the same. And I can. If I wanted to hurt my husband.
Adam Friedland
That's scary.
George Severis
With a sentence.
Adam Friedland
That's capitalism. That's capitalism.
Sam Taggart
Well, I'm sure you could hurt your fiance. Yeah, I think we can all hurt each other. I think it's more like. I almost think the romance of the. The unknowing is sort of like. Like if you, like, want to have sex, you can just be like, hey, like, let's have sex now.
Adam Friedland
No, and it's like.
Sam Taggart
Like gay guys can.
Adam Friedland
Oh, you guys.
Sam Taggart
And like straight people. You can never do that.
Adam Friedland
I have to be allowed to.
Sam Taggart
You have to, like, try to be allowed.
George Severis
You have to file the paperwork, work.
Adam Friedland
No, she has.
George Severis
You have to go to the dm.
Adam Friedland
And I'm allowed to. Yeah, it's fine. I like the system. No, of course. Yeah. Yeah. It's too, like, variable. Like if. If I know the evil in the other person, if I understand the evil, then I Like, I'm trying to study. Like, oh, wait, if you Understand the.
George Severis
Evil in the, in the woman.
Adam Friedland
I know. The evil in me.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Adam Friedland
So what am I like, you know, like, listen, like, how do I put it? I think gay sex is the purest form of recreational sex.
George Severis
Sure, sure, sure.
Adam Friedland
Right, yeah.
George Severis
Think about it like the most egalitarian. You mean? And the most, like, exactly. The, the most, the most communication there can possibly be where each person gets exactly what they're going in to get.
Adam Friedland
Every girl has different sex, you know that.
George Severis
But would you say every girl has different. First of all, I didn't know that. And do you think all guys have the same sex? So every different sex, all guys have the same sex? Is that the argument?
Adam Friedland
Yeah, it's kind of just true. It's kind of simple.
George Severis
But, but so you're saying you can't.
Adam Friedland
When you date a new girl, it's just like you have to figure out a new thing and you're like, all right, but some people like you. Like them. You what? You want to figure it out and you want to be a nice boy to them.
George Severis
Sure.
Adam Friedland
I think my problem is I'm in like natural flirt because I was, I'm very close with my mother, right. And she was way more beautiful than my dad. And I was like, how dare this bastard deserve this angel. And I'm her perfect man. Yeah. You know, I saw my 90 year old grandmother in March. Come on, bro. Nah, nah. Busted. No, no, no. I saw, I saw Granny Esther at her birthday and she, she touched my arm and I felt myself like flex and I'm like, why am I trying to seem buff for a 94 year old lady?
Sam Taggart
Yeah, but that's because you wanted to.
Adam Friedland
Be proud of you. I just want every lady to think I'm like, just a good boy.
Sam Taggart
Of course.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I can't see a therapist. That's a girl. What am I gonna tell my secrets. Wait, I can tell a guy, like, I'm terrible, I'm awful, everyone hates me, but I got that. But if a girl, I'm gonna be.
George Severis
Like, oh, you're gonna want to impress her. That's the issue.
Adam Friedland
Naturally. Yes.
Sam Taggart
There's something so Mike Pence coated about all this.
Adam Friedland
Mike Pence is a freak that calls his wife mother.
Sam Taggart
You're like, I can't be in the same room with a woman.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Friedland
I can't be in the same room as a woman. I love girl shows. They have great stuff in the bathroom. They, they have products.
Sam Taggart
No, you can be in their homes.
Adam Friedland
They can do skin care.
Sam Taggart
I don't know if you're allowed to be in there with them.
Adam Friedland
No. It's so nice to be around them. They want to do skin care.
George Severis
Don't you think that a face mask woman therapist would be awesome? Better for you because you'd be trying so hard to impress her that you would improve as a human being.
Adam Friedland
Where to tell all the other girls my secret.
Sam Taggart
No, that's true. That's true.
Adam Friedland
Fool me once.
George Severis
I mean, that is what she gets with her group.
Sam Taggart
And then watch this.
George Severis
Do you watch Warner?
Adam Friedland
Who?
George Severis
Couples therapy.
Adam Friedland
Oh, no, no. I got mad.
George Severis
You should have mad.
Adam Friedland
I got mad at this one husband. That was so selfish.
George Severis
Oh, yeah. Wait till you get to the episode one.
Adam Friedland
I watched it and I'm like, what's.
Sam Taggart
I hate him. You have to finish the season because he gets less selfish.
Adam Friedland
Sort of. She fixes him.
Sam Taggart
She fixes him.
Adam Friedland
That guy. He's a dickhead.
Sam Taggart
And she's nice, but she fixes him.
Adam Friedland
Sort of. Well, he should have been nice to his girl, to his wife.
Sam Taggart
Okay, Adam.
George Severis
So the first segment is called Straight Shooters. You have to choose one thing or another thing, and that's all you need to know.
Adam Friedland
All right?
George Severis
Okay. Ready? Ready?
Adam Friedland
This will be good for.
George Severis
Okay, we don't post this. We literally don't post this. It's for just us.
Adam Friedland
And just like that.
George Severis
Turning a look or burning a book.
Adam Friedland
What's turning a look?
Sam Taggart
Don't you know what?
George Severis
You know what it is like looking.
Adam Friedland
At someone that you think is attractive? I can't ask. I'm so bad at games.
George Severis
Burn.
Adam Friedland
That's Nazi. So the first one.
George Severis
Okay, okay, okay.
Sam Taggart
Earning your stripes or learning your type.
Adam Friedland
What is this, like, a black church? You're doing, like, rhymes. We're.
Sam Taggart
Yes, we're pretty much doing rhymes.
George Severis
I love that it's literally rhymes. It's basically us doming the guest earning stripes.
Adam Friedland
What's the second one?
Sam Taggart
Earning your type.
Adam Friedland
My d. I don't care.
George Severis
Yeah, you can't win.
Adam Friedland
Earning stress from who? Ah, God, I don't. I'm one.
George Severis
Okay, okay. Living life on the edge or loving your wife because you took a pledge?
Adam Friedland
Second one's kind of nice.
Sam Taggart
Okay. A gag reflex or a snack? Pre sex.
Adam Friedland
Oh, a gag reflex. A snack.
Sam Taggart
Pre flip.
Adam Friedland
Pre sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
George Severis
Okay.
Adam Friedland
If I'm hungry. I, I. You can't perform. Yeah, the morning sex. I just. I want a little snack before. Yeah, my breath smells.
George Severis
I hate the breath is.
Sam Taggart
We have to talk about this later.
Adam Friedland
It's terrible.
George Severis
Amy Winehouse or Nestle Toll House.
Adam Friedland
Amy Winehouse is incredible. Unbelievable.
George Severis
Great talent.
Adam Friedland
Jewish.
Sam Taggart
Okay. Stunning in new photo or running out of potatoes.
Adam Friedland
Oh, stunning. It. What does that have to do. All right. Looking nice in a picture is nice.
George Severis
Sure. First one come town. Piss play or sandwich.
Adam Friedland
Sandwich. Nice.
Sam Taggart
Okay. Gorgonzola or Adam Corolla.
Adam Friedland
Man show is pretty sick. Is it the first man show is good with Jimmy Kimmel?
Sam Taggart
No, I watched it for all the wrong reasons. But so were men. So were straight men.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, it was good. Girls on trampolines. Yeah. And that little boy.
Sam Taggart
And then like, Jimmy Kimmel would, like, be in his underwear for some reason and I'd be like, whoa, nice.
Adam Friedland
He did. He did blackface in that. He has Jimmy. Yeah. Come on.
George Severis
Everyone was.
Sam Taggart
Everyone was doing.
Adam Friedland
There is the night. Everyone's Ted Danson was doing it. Billy Crystal was doing it.
Sam Taggart
Jimmy Fallon, folks.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
So morning sex.
Adam Friedland
Oh, morning sex.
George Severis
First of all, you did amazing on the game.
Adam Friedland
Oh, thank you.
George Severis
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
You did really well.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
George Severis
You won. You're the first winner.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, I did Good.
George Severis
Usually we rank the guests on a numerical scale, but you just got a.
Adam Friedland
W. So what do I get? I don't care. That's.
George Severis
My episode is now officially going to be released just to all.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
George Severis
To the FBI. We're going to send it to Sarah Jessica and we're going to give her the timestamp for when you. When you shit talk her.
Adam Friedland
I think she looks amazing. Every.
George Severis
She literally does look amazing. Crazy. She's like the number one woman globally.
Adam Friedland
Do you think I showed her in a different light than she'd been shown?
George Severis
Adam, I think you did an amazing job.
Adam Friedland
Sick. I thank you, guys.
Sam Taggart
I have to say, the moment she was on there, we were both like.
George Severis
No, you don't do that.
Adam Friedland
She was doing it for her son. She was doing it to be nice to her son because she's a good mom.
George Severis
And someone told me that Brandon Wardell told me that. He was like. Because I was like, why is Sarah Jessica Parker, no offense. On Adam Friedland?
Adam Friedland
Makes sense.
George Severis
And he. And. And Brandon was like, oh, yeah. Her son is a huge comedy fan. So then I followed her son being like, maybe he'll notice me.
Adam Friedland
All right. I could ask him. He probably. He probably has heard this.
George Severis
And he seems like, like, cool.
Adam Friedland
He's a nice kid.
George Severis
Yeah, he seems like a really nice kid.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah, he's really nice.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, he seems really nice. Yeah.
Adam Friedland
What?
Sam Taggart
No.
George Severis
Okay, wait. Knowing one another.
Sam Taggart
Knowing one another. You guys, you know what an asymptote is?
George Severis
Yes. It's like it Gets closer.
Sam Taggart
That goes closer and closer to zero, but never hits.
George Severis
Never hits it.
Sam Taggart
That's what a straight relationship is.
Adam Friedland
Why?
Sam Taggart
Because you'll never hit zero. You'll never really know.
George Severis
You'll never actually know one another other.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, you would. I mean, like, it's.
Sam Taggart
I'm using your language.
George Severis
You just said you'll never after.
Adam Friedland
Well, because it's a girl, right? Like, it's just like. It's like. But it's like, it's really special because of that.
George Severis
Is the issue that girls are complicated or just that boys and girls are different?
Adam Friedland
Things that don't make sense. Boys, they're different and they say things that don't make sense.
George Severis
Do boys say things?
Adam Friedland
They say, are you okay? They're like, I'm fine. And you're like, like, are you sure? They're like, I'm fine. And then three days later they say the thing.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
And they're just like, why didn't you tell me three days ago? And they're like, you shut up now. In the thing. And I'm like, there's no way I. I could have known that thing.
Sam Taggart
But you never say I'm fine. Like, in a passive aggressive way. You're never like, if you're always 100% honest. If you're like being moody and we.
Adam Friedland
Can I tell you what's going on with this with us guys? Maybe it's just my boys. Sure. All of us are like, I just want to talk about my feelings more with her. They're all like the bros. All like the. The stereotype of like the guy coming back from the factory and being like. Like, why do we always have to talk about feelings? It's. It's that it's them now. I think it's us. We're like, I just want to open up. And I think it's what? Maybe it's because we stopped domestic abuse or something. I don't know.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Congrats to all for stopping it, by the way. That was amazing.
George Severis
That was really cool.
Adam Friedland
No, I think it's because, like, maybe our grandfathers were about to open up.
Sam Taggart
Up before.
Adam Friedland
They just like, maybe they're like, when I was 4, but it like, I had a trauma. And then they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not funny. Cut that, please.
George Severis
The way out of it is anger, whereas. But do you feel like.
Sam Taggart
So do you think that now women are going to start doing domestic.
Adam Friedland
They're pimps, dude. They're the pimps.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
Do you think?
Adam Friedland
Yeah, I love them. They're Cute. I mean, like, yeah, it's nice to make dinner. It's nice to watch a girls show. It's nice to pass out on the couch. Couch. It's. It's sweet. Yeah, they're like, sweet. And it's nice to hang out with girls, too.
Sam Taggart
How'd you.
Adam Friedland
You can watch Sex in the City. You get a tiny leather bracelet. You could do skin face masks.
Sam Taggart
How'd you propose?
Adam Friedland
So nice. Yeah, I bricked.
Sam Taggart
Tell us.
Adam Friedland
I bricked. Oh, my God. I've never said this in public before.
George Severis
Oh, my God.
Adam Friedland
Such a loser. Oh, my God. What'd you do? We went to Mexico today.
Sam Taggart
Huge.
Adam Friedland
Her friend was it. Okay, so our anniversary is like, technically New Year's.
George Severis
Okay.
Adam Friedland
She was like five. Like, New Year's. 20, 19. 2020, I guess she was at a party. We'd been like, kind of hanging out. And she was at a party and she kissed someone at midnight. And then she texted me, what's going on? And I said, I'm sick. I. I got sick. Like, I. I have. I have a flu or. And she's like, she came over to take her. Me. And then the guy was like, you want to keep chilling? And she like, that's kind of like what we count as us getting together. So anyway, I'm bad at plans. I stink at plans. I stink it. And I'm like, I gotta come up with something that even I can't fuck up. So her friend lives in Mexico. I'm gonna make this short. Okay. Her friend lives in Mexico City. Oh, my God. This is stressing me out.
George Severis
You are the one who wanted to want to open up about his feelings. We're giving you a platform.
Adam Friedland
It's not my feelings. It's just. I'm such a fucking idiot.
George Severis
No, you're not.
Adam Friedland
So I'm like, I gotta come up with a plan that even I can't fuck up. So I'm like, I'm gonna do like the 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, and then we'll kiss, and I'll just give her the ring.
George Severis
Okay.
Adam Friedland
Also, she found the ring, like, 12 times. It's like, it wasn't that big of a surprise, right?
Sam Taggart
She found it more than once.
George Severis
That's crazy. You need to be better at hiding things.
Adam Friedland
Whatever. I can't.
Sam Taggart
Did she tell you or did she, like, pretend she never found this?
Adam Friedland
She's like, ha. And then I started crying. I was like, what do you want it? She's like, well, no, you should propose. Do something cute. I was like, okay. So I'm like, we'll do it at the countdown. So I called her friend. I was like, can you just find a fun place and where I can, like, we kid do kiss and then ring. And it's just like, casually even. I can't fuck that up. And then. So we're like, there, 9:15, New Year's Eve. We're at this place. It's, like, kind of fun. My inside man, her friend, wasted, like, just hammered 9:15. And I'm like, get your shit together. Like, there's more important things going on right now. And she's like, oh, my God. And then they were like, like, then I'm with these four girls, and they're like, can. Can we. Let's make a move. And like, let's. And I'm like, this place seems fun. I think this play. We should chill here. And then they were like, no. And then I had to walk. And they're like, adam, you're good at directions. And they're like, can you just, like, direct us to this place?
George Severis
Such a girl thing.
Adam Friedland
And it's 45 minutes, and we're walking through Mexico for 45 minutes. And then there's like, they're, like, living in the mo. They're Francis. Ha. Like, living. And I'm just like, can we stop leaving in the moment? We got to get to this place. Place. And then we get there, like, 11 walk up to the door, empty. Not a single soul is there. And I turned to her friend. I'm like, thanks. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot, you. And she's, like, laughing at me. I guess she laughs when she gets nervous. And I'm like, why are you laughing at me? And then she was like, because it's funny. This is like a funny story. I was like, it's my life. This is my life. You know, Also, I, like, ran my stupid ass mouth to too many people. My phone's, like, buzzing all night. Her brother's texting me. He's like, you guys are being shady. Like, I know it's going down. Like, and picks. My family thinks, like, my family's like, like, angry at me. Everyone's mad at me.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
And. And then also she's like, why do you have such a bad attitude to New Year's? I'm like, I'm having a great. I'm having a great night. And so then I'm like. I tell her friend, I'm like, you got to find a party. Just find a place where we could go. Like, I'm like, we have 45 minutes. And she's Like, I found a place. We get in a car, it drops us off. And I'm like. I'm like, where? Where is this place? And she's like, it's right here. And I'm like, this is. It's. It's a hospital. Hospital. It dropped us off at a hospital. It's like 11:30. I'm like, this is a hospital. And she's like, it's supposed to be right here. And I'm like, jesus Christ, we're in the hospital. There's a New Year's party in the hospital. And also, it's just my fault because New Year's always sucks and whatever. Okay. So then we find this, like. Like around the corner from this hospital is like. And we walk in, it's like eight people around a coffee table. Like, great. And some guy stands up. He's like, yeah, the last episode with the Destiny was Fire. I'm like, I'm not getting engaged here in front of these people.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
And then these people are being weird, too. I'm like, okay, so it won't happen at midnight, but I'll do it. Like, these people are being weird. This guy walks up to me, he's like. He's like, answer me, this, brother. And I'm like, what's up, dude? He's like, do I know you? And I'm like, I don't know. Did you live in New York? Every. Like, yeah, I used to live there. He's like, you ever ten bar? And I'm like, no, I've never. Maybe you just recognize me from. I. I live in New York. And he's like, I'm pretty sure you ten bar, brother. And I'm like, no, I didn't.
Sam Taggart
He's like, it's like a damn one man show.
Adam Friedland
And he walks. He, like, walks away. And then I'm like, trying to find her friend. I'm like, we got to get out of here. We, like, have to get out of here. These people are weird. And then her friend's like, on the phone outside. She's like, caroline, it's a disaster. And she's like, adam, Caroline wants to talk to you. And I'm like, my girlfriend's other friend. I'm like, I don't want to fucking talk to Caroline. I was like. I was. I was like, why are you gossiping about me to fucking Carolyn. Buzz, buzz, buzz. My phone. I'm getting so stressed out. This is the first time I've ever said this publicly. Oh, my God. Okay, so we leave. We try like eight other Places in.
Sam Taggart
Like a half hour.
Adam Friedland
In like. Like, in, like, the.
Sam Taggart
Because it's still before midnight.
Adam Friedland
But no, no countdown happens around these freaks. We leave this living room, and they're like, sorry, we've been on mushrooms. We're all in a tremendous amount of mushrooms. And I was like, oh, that's why you people are weird. Then we go to another, Like, a. There's a rave or something. I'm like, this is good. This is gonna be great. I'm like, let's get. Yeah, let's go to this sold out. Go to another place. Another place. It's like 2am haven't had a drink. Drink in, like, six hours. Yeah. I'm. My girlfriend's mad at me because I have a bad attitude to New Year's.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
And I'm like, let's turn around this next place. I have a feeling it's gonna be incredible. And then we walk in, and, like, she was cold, so she was wearing my jacket. And, like, we walk into this place. It looks incredible, right?
George Severis
And what kind of venue are we talking?
Adam Friedland
I don't know. This is like.
George Severis
Like a big club party.
Sam Taggart
There's like a.
Adam Friedland
It's like a bar. Yeah. There's, like, people are, like, dancing. It's like, you know, like, there's like a. Listening, like, you know, like banda. Like Mexican music. It's fun, right? It's, like, fun. Everyone's having a blast, right? And then I turn. I get patted down. I'm like, all right. And then I turn around, and mine's getting patted down. And, like, on the inside pocket, my jacket was the ring. And as she's getting patted down, the, like, bouncers like, what's this?
George Severis
No.
Adam Friedland
Takes it out. Out, opens the box, picks up the ring, and she's like. And Maya, like, looks at me and she's like, oh, yeah. And I was like, yeah. And like, that could. I've been so badly behaved all night and stressed out. It's like, it wouldn't. And then she said something to me that was so emasculating. It was so, like. It made my, like, penis go into my body. She said, she's like. And it was so nice. It was so. She was so nice.
George Severis
She was.
Adam Friedland
Was like, well, it didn't work out tonight, but, like, you can try, like, another time. And I was like, thanks, man. Yeah. Be like. I was like, let's just go home. And then. Yeah. And then at the end of the next day, I was like, I have felt like such a loser all day. And then she was like, she's like, yeah, you're terrible at plans. That's why I make all the plans. And you complain that I. That you're never allowed to make a plan. But like, one time in Paris, I was like, can I choose one restaurant? And she was like, fine, go ahead, choose a restaurant. I chose one. Literally, we. We left, like, we got our, like, the appetizer. I'm like, this is a stinky doo doo poo poo place. Somehow, like, I found the worst restaurant in Paris.
Sam Taggart
If there's anything.
Adam Friedland
She's like, you're useless at plans. I'm like, I. I know. I thought I could. Could do one plan.
George Severis
This story is literally like, like Ari Aster level.
Adam Friedland
It's so stressful. It's like uncut gems.
George Severis
Literally, like uncut gems. So. So then when you did propose and I was like, it was like, in private, it was.
Adam Friedland
When did it count?
Sam Taggart
When was it?
Adam Friedland
Like, okay, next day. So I was like. She's like, why don't you just ask me? She's like, you think I would have liked New Year's kiss? And I'm like, I don't know. I think you know what? She's like, I don't have Instagram. She's like, I'm not like a girl that gets my nails done for. She's like, just ask me, you idiot. I'm like, well, you.
George Severis
But I think it's such a guy thing to project onto a girl that she wants a New Year' proposal. You know, it's like a guy. It's a guy's fantasy of what a girl wants. Totally.
Adam Friedland
Cuz we don't understand that. Right, but you don't trying.
George Severis
But then there's also this weird like almost imagining them as children or something. Like, it's like, I don't know.
Adam Friedland
For some girl that would have worked, but not. Definitely not my girlfriend. Yeah.
George Severis
And who you.
Sam Taggart
Who you know, who you know quite.
George Severis
Well, clearly, and have like a meaningful.
Adam Friedland
Relationship and that you guys would know that I wouldn't know her. None of her friends were helpful.
Sam Taggart
I'm like, I'm just confused. The plan itself, like, I'm not trying to be. I know you're being hard on yourself.
Adam Friedland
Already, but I mean, it's a simple you can't fuck it up plan, right?
Sam Taggart
No, I think the I'm.
Adam Friedland
She would have liked it if it was in the context. Yeah, but did you.
George Severis
Had you chosen a party to go to because New Year's Eve famous.
Adam Friedland
Her friend in Mecca who lived there just. I was like, just find A place.
George Severis
And then she just didn't find one.
Adam Friedland
And then she got hammered by like 9:15. She was blackout.
Sam Taggart
I was confused by the venue mattered so much because, like, no matter what, in theory, you would have been at a fun place at midnight night, but.
Adam Friedland
We were in a living room with crackheads.
George Severis
Okay, here's my idea.
Adam Friedland
Like the Adam Friedland show. Gringos who moved to our country and ruined it. Mexico. No.
George Severis
What if as you were walking from one. I mean, there's no way to repeat the experience, but let's work. As you were walking from one venue to the other, you were like. You sort of did a. You were like, hey, can I talk to you alone for a second? And it's like, it's the middle of the night. You're outside.
Sam Taggart
I'm imagining that. That Mexican.
George Severis
You just go behind a chair. Like, I just got a. I. I just got a text. Can talk to you for a second. She. You're setting low expectations, cuz she thinks like someone died. And then you go behind a tree and you propose.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, that sounds really nice.
George Severis
Yeah. And then it's like, how romantic. You're like, alone.
Sam Taggart
That's what I'm thinking. Like kind of like quiet place in a loud night.
George Severis
Quiet place in a loud night.
Sam Taggart
Exactly. I don't want to.
Adam Friedland
Like, I thought like, if you're on a dance floor and every. It's loud and no one's paying attention to anyone else and it's dark, you're watching just like kiss.
Sam Taggart
Watching too many movies.
Adam Friedland
Of course, dude, I'm movies.
George Severis
But do you think it's like.
Adam Friedland
It's kind of nice even, like, hand off.
Sam Taggart
I'm confused. Like, you keep doing this as if you're like just passing it to her and then like running away.
Adam Friedland
No, I'm just passing it to her. And she's like, oh, thanks. And. But we're not. We. There's no like, crowd. Right?
George Severis
There's.
Adam Friedland
It's kind of like you're around a lot of people and it's fun.
George Severis
You're describing, like a great environment for stealing a ring.
Adam Friedland
I'm pitching. I'm pitching an idea. That was a failure. Okay. So obviously it was a failure.
George Severis
Yeah. And sorry to pile on. Of course.
Adam Friedland
Obviously. Also, she was like, adam, you know, New Year's always sucks. And I'm like, yes, you do know.
George Severis
So that's.
Adam Friedland
It's. I forget every year.
George Severis
No, that's fair. That's fair. It's just such a risky thing to choose the most. Sorry to use this word. Chaotic night. Of the year.
Adam Friedland
Supposed to be. I don't know. Her friend was supposed to.
Sam Taggart
It's her.
Adam Friedland
Her friend's fault. I was so mad at her friend. I was like, you've ruined by.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
She's, like, laughing in my face. She's like, this is funny. Because she gets funny.
George Severis
She laughs when she's nervous.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah. She's like, this is gonna be such a good story.
George Severis
And honestly, it was.
Sam Taggart
Listeners. I mean, tell us if it was a good story.
Adam Friedland
Story.
Sam Taggart
Comment below.
Adam Friedland
It was so stressful. But, like, it was nice, like, when we talked the next day, because she was like. She's like, adam, you're useless at plans. She's like, this is just why she's. You're lucky to be with me.
George Severis
And guess what? She knows you. That's like. That's a sign she knows you deeply.
Adam Friedland
Like, it's kind of so us, isn't it?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
So true.
Sam Taggart
So true. So when it comes to wedding planning, are you gonna have any input at all?
Adam Friedland
No. I mean, pretty much, no. But whatever. It's. It'll be great.
Sam Taggart
Of course.
Adam Friedland
It'll be so fun. Yeah.
Sam Taggart
She.
George Severis
So she mentioned, via your story that you sometimes get frustrated that you're not allowed to make plans. Has. Is that still something you're frustrated by, or. Or you're, like, learning to. Learning to let go in that way?
Adam Friedland
No. Well, I think what a relationship is, is that it's like two different people. Okay. Okay. Like, one person, like, spends a lot of money. One person is thrifty. Right.
Sam Taggart
Sure.
George Severis
It's a balance.
Adam Friedland
That's who the people are. And then you know that you're different. And you try hard to, like, compromise, but you're gonna fuck up along the way. So it's just, like, you can't expect things to get fixed, but if you love the person.
George Severis
Keep going.
Adam Friedland
If you love the person, you're gonna make an effort.
George Severis
You're doing that thing that girl does, or she laughs when she's nervous.
Adam Friedland
True.
Sam Taggart
You're being that girl.
Adam Friedland
This is a very sincere thing that I'm saying.
Sam Taggart
There's something about this story where I'm like, was that girl you like? Was this a Fight Club situation?
Adam Friedland
It was Tyler Durden.
Sam Taggart
It was a Tyler Durden thing.
Adam Friedland
It was. Yeah. No.
George Severis
Yeah. You were self. You were self sabotaging.
Sam Taggart
I really thought it was gonna work it up.
Adam Friedland
I thought it was gonna work. I thought it was gonna work. I thought it was gonna work. This is classic. If I asked you guys, you would have been like, that. That'll work. Behind me right now. I just. I.
George Severis
The. The amount of variables. Mexico City, New Year's Eve.
Adam Friedland
I know being at a party that.
Sam Taggart
You don't know what it will be like.
Adam Friedland
Her friend was supposed to find it for me, but I guess.
George Severis
I guess my here's a huge.
Adam Friedland
What did you guys do? String quartet.
George Severis
Well, I don't know what you guys did.
Adam Friedland
Pet shot. Boys Loud. It's a sin.
Sam Taggart
We just. We just had a convo. I came back from.
Adam Friedland
See, that's practical.
Sam Taggart
It's practical.
George Severis
I actually did propose. Like, fully propose.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. In the classic sense. You want to tell yours?
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Was it a shock?
George Severis
We had talked about it in a general sense, so we both knew it was going to happen, like, in the next, I don't know, calendar year, but.
Adam Friedland
Sounds like a board. Were you at a board?
George Severis
No, but actually, the proposal itself was a shock in a way that I didn't expect.
Adam Friedland
Really?
George Severis
Like. Yeah, he was, like, really, really happy and, like, romantic. It was very romantic. Also, like, he. I think the implication, generally speaking, was that he would be the one to propose because he is older and, like, more of a planner, Honestly, like, Like, it. It was sort of impressive that I got it together to do it.
Adam Friedland
You?
George Severis
Yeah, I like that.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, I like that. And I almost.
George Severis
I think that was like a good sort of. I was proud of myself for that.
Adam Friedland
Because you're the bohemian.
George Severis
Exactly.
Adam Friedland
He's the executive C suite. Executive business, literally. I like that.
George Severis
Yeah. Wait, there was something I wanted to. I mean, should we try to do a straight topic?
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Normally we have our guests bring in a straight topic.
George Severis
Yeah. So, like, it could be anything.
Adam Friedland
Real Housewives.
George Severis
It could be, like, obvious, like, you know, football. Or it could be more sort of avant garde. Like, any straight topic.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, literally.
Sam Taggart
Anyone normal. I don't know what I mean. I would actually be curious to talk about, like, sports media.
George Severis
Really?
Adam Friedland
Sports media?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Well, it's kind of like how they. It's like what. CNN has become espn. How so?
George Severis
Like, in their coverage of politics.
Adam Friedland
Have you seen that show where it's like 12 people around the table having an argument? What is that show?
George Severis
Yeah, it's.
Adam Friedland
I just see it on.
George Severis
That's also every show.
Adam Friedland
I will say o argument. The YouTube thing on CNN, the people, like, tripled.
Sam Taggart
Like, it used to be like there'd be three people talking and arguing, and now it's literally 12 people.
Adam Friedland
It's like the whole. Yeah, it's the Argument show.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
After I did that Richie Torres thing, I was asked on to go on Piers Morgan to have an argument, and I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. Like, I like, I. I still am a comedian. I want to, like, make her.
Sam Taggart
No, that would be. That would be a nightmare.
George Severis
Is that I. What. What you want?
Adam Friedland
I mean, I want to, like, do something, like, nice.
George Severis
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. I want the show. Like, I mean, like, I don't like when comedians like, oh, this isn't straight. No, we're getting off topic, but we.
George Severis
Can get off fine.
Adam Friedland
I don't like when, like, you know, now we've, like, think they been elevated to, like, being smart. Like, like, you know, talking about, like, Covid transmission, like, public health statistics. I'm like, yeah, we're idiots. Idiots. Like, but that was, like, one thing that I was like, I felt like I could talk about. Yeah, but I guess I abused a queer person of color.
George Severis
Is that what people are saying?
Adam Friedland
Richie Torres. No one tried that one. No one tried that one.
Sam Taggart
I like that you thought of every offense that would come, and they didn't try that one.
Adam Friedland
No, but I did get, like, 1934 der Sturmer anti Semitism from, like. Oh, sure, the Barry Weiss.
George Severis
Jewish.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
No, but it was awesome. It was one of the funniest things in the world.
Sam Taggart
How come?
Adam Friedland
To inspire Jewish people to be, like, viciously anti Semitic to me. Like this hook nose banker. Like, I don't know if they said that, but yeah, it was just like phrenology, like.
George Severis
Sure. So for anyone who doesn't know you were arguing with Richie Torres about Israel. Richie Torres is very. Is. Is. I don't even. I think pro Israel is, like, the wrong Zionist, I guess. Yes. But also a friend of the show apac and. Right.
Adam Friedland
The friend of the. Your show.
Sam Taggart
No, no friend of apac.
Adam Friedland
Have you had Torres?
George Severis
No, we've had many APAC representatives.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. He's. He's received a lot of money from APAC. Yes. He tweets about Israel.
George Severis
Correct.
Adam Friedland
Historically, like 80.
George Severis
And he is not Jewish and you are. And that also kind of complicated the. The dynamic because he was trying to sort of tell you what Jewish people feel, and you were saying, well, I'm Jewish and I don't feel that way.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it's just.
George Severis
And then you got. And then anti Semitic hate speech from other Jewish people. So that's sort of what happened.
Adam Friedland
Which was awesome.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, it was awesome. I think that is like the. The culmination of the project of come down to eventually not. Not to get Adam to be a public intellectual to eventually inspire Jewish people to be virulently anti Semitic to me.
Sam Taggart
Did you know going into that Richie Torres interview that you were going to get serious? That it was going to be. Get serious?
Adam Friedland
I knew it was going to come up. I mean, mainly it's just like, I. I don't know, it's like. But it's tough, like, because my, like, I didn't want to, like, my. It's your family and stuff.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Friedland
Like, the older generation, they're like, completely. They don't, they don't realize that. I mean, it would make them feel, like, gaslit. Their entire lives, they've been like, there's. They've been living under an assumption that's just kind of patently false at this point. And, you know, it's. It's like an Arian. You have in your family for 20 years, and I've been having in my family for 20 years. Yeah. And it's. It's crazy. We always call each other Hitler. That's where it goes. My dad literally called me Hitler. Really? We always do. It's dinner.
Sam Taggart
I. I found it. So I feel like whenever I've tried to argue politics with people, which is rare. Which is rare because I also think of myself as not like a public intellectual, but I am always, like, trying to come from, like, an emotional place and be like, but don't you see how that was. Would, like, how that sucks, like, and they're sort of like, well, if you look at Article 2, Section B, I'm like, what are you talking about? So I found it really cathartic to listen to.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. I don't know. It's. I wasn't really. It. I thought I did a bad job.
George Severis
But inevitably you would think that. I don't. I think it would be really.
Adam Friedland
I was like, I did a bad job as an interviewer, but I think.
George Severis
It would be really. You would have to be a complete narcissist to do an interview about such a, like, big topic and be like, I crushed that. Like.
Adam Friedland
Right.
George Severis
Obviously there are things that are not going to be brought up or they're are like, things you feel like you didn't articulate well. And, and which is why I think.
Sam Taggart
Which is why we can't have Sarah Jessica Parker on, because we just feel there's too much pressure.
Adam Friedland
Are you politically opposed to her?
Sam Taggart
Jessica? We just, like, think we couldn't, like, talk about him just like that, like, fully. You know what I mean?
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
George Severis
Yeah. We would have to become, like, gay guys who. Stan. And we're just like, ah, yeah.
Adam Friedland
She saw her walking around with. Who's her friend? The real estate agent from the new show Seema. Seema? Yeah.
George Severis
Well, I've seen her around everywhere. She's in William Williamsburg.
Adam Friedland
No, but her and Sarah Jessica.
George Severis
Oh really? Are they friends in real life?
Adam Friedland
I guess my girlfriend saw them walking around. Pretty cool. But going back to that.
George Severis
Yes.
Adam Friedland
I just. Because I've been getting into like, like learning how to do interviews. So for me, I was just like. I was like, I'm talking too much. You know, I. I thought I was doing. I thought I like, I kind of. It got off track. Track. That's how I felt at the. In the time. And also like I sent it around to like people. Cuz like editing it was just looking at that guy like me?
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Like, just I'm Jewish as a Jewish. Just like editing it. I'm like, this is like the most embarrassing you can be. This is like what we try not to do.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Friedland
There's like a saying, like, not like not in front of the goam. Like just tone it.
George Severis
Oh, I thought you meant we as comedians. Well, because it's like it feels hacked to be like, okay. Well now it basically to be like the okay to go John Stewart mode or.
Adam Friedland
And also just to do it as a Jewish person, you know, Like, I felt like I was like Kyle's cousin from. Kyle from South Park. I don't know if you understand the reference, but he has a cousin come visit from New York who's the most Jewish kid. Okay, I can't be out in the cold.
Sam Taggart
Sure, sure, sure.
Adam Friedland
But then, so I sent it around and then like, I have like incredibly pro Palestine Jewish friends who were like, Adam, you're acting like kind of. And then like all my non Jewish friends were like, this is a. This is some of the most compelling content I've ever seen on the subject. And then I kind of like in my mind I was like, oh, you think that like, oh, he's being a fucking Jew. Like he's being like a histrionic cry. If he's talking about himself, that's like, of course he's acting Jew Jewish by being a. By being a wimp. Yeah, no, no. I mean, I just. I'm glad it had a good response. Like the two weeks of shooting it and then editing it afterwards was like kind of stressful.
Sam Taggart
But did his team reach out with anything afterwards?
Adam Friedland
Be like they said racks. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't know.
Sam Taggart
They're like, enjoy.
Adam Friedland
I don't. Yeah, it was like very uncomfortable. And afterwards he told me that it was. I set him up and stuff. I'm like, I'm. I literally crap my pants on, come down. Like, I was like, I'm not like a. He's like, you're an operative and like an activist and like.
George Severis
And when you say he said that, what does that mean? Like his team?
Adam Friedland
No, he said it to me.
Sam Taggart
Was that like in the room? Because that was like the off mic or the.
Adam Friedland
When you start that extended for like 20 minutes where I'm like, listen, dude, I just want you to know that everything I was like saying was genuine. And I tried to only couch it in terms that. Of like things that I knew firsthand because kind of what they do is, you know, the like lived experience thing.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
It is kind of like a little bit of a move. Right? Of course. It's like if someone feels a certain way, it's kind of a conversation ender.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
So like, if they're like someone feels anti Semitism on a college campus, in our minds, we're like, yeah, you saw a Palestinian flag and you, you did an inhaler and stuff. Like you're like, but you can't. But it's their lived experience. Right. So it's rhetorically. That's like a conversation ender. So if I'm like. So I'm like, I'm going to respond by telling him what my lived experience is. It's also like, why are they using woke? Like, why is Israel going woke.
Sam Taggart
Well, but that's everything.
Adam Friedland
Go like right wing. Like fake news globalists. Like, they should, they should go that way. They're justifying a genocide. I mean, they shouldn't be doing like no bodies in spaces in the.
George Severis
No. The way the right wing is going. And they're going what now with free speech stuff too.
Sam Taggart
Totally.
George Severis
Where it's like, oh, they're doing cancer. They're doing. Yes. And they're. And. And this attention to hate speech, which is a traditionally like left wing concept, like hate speech is meant to be something that refers to when you say something negative about a group. But now it becomes just like saying something about. About a Republican person.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Hating on.
George Severis
But lived experience is interesting because it's almost like it is rhetoric.
Adam Friedland
Like you can't argue against someone, but.
George Severis
Right. But there's two. What it tries to argue is that there's a dichotomy between a theoretical point and a point that's based on experience. So it's like I can say I believe we should have universal health care or I can say I Have a bill for $50 million for a surgery. You know, like, it has a different way to it when it's an experience, but there is a midway point, which is feelings. A feeling is an experience, and that I'm experiencing a feeling, but it's also theoret and that I can't prove it. You know what I mean?
Adam Friedland
Correct.
George Severis
And so I don't think people know how to talk about that midway point because it's. It's both is and isn't lived experience.
Adam Friedland
Schizophrenic, like a guy with like 12 backpacks outside of Whole Foods, like, thinks the devil is trying to eat his penis.
George Severis
So that is his lived experience.
Adam Friedland
That's his lived experience. But it's like, what? Like, well, this is. Does that justify a genocide in casa? Like, you know, and it's just like. So I'm like, okay, rhetorically.
Sam Taggart
If he.
Adam Friedland
If that's what the argument is in terms of, like, anti Semitism, then I'm going to tell him, like, okay, well, I'm a Jewish person in public and like, this is actually what my experience has been. And then just see. And I think that was that accomplished. What my intention was there. But yeah, then you kind of just see how, like, how bizarre these. I mean, it's so sterile to these people.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Legislation and omnibus of a whip in like a HR3. I mean, it hasn't. And I'm like, at a certain point, you're like, yeah, but like a. Babies are getting blown up.
Sam Taggart
I know it sounds like you're trying to be dramatic, but it is, like, how are you not feeling the.
Adam Friedland
Like, did you guys watch it?
Sam Taggart
I didn't watch, I listened.
Adam Friedland
Did you hear when he's like, haven't been a pride.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, Yeah.
Adam Friedland
I was like, what happened? Wait, did you casually, like.
Sam Taggart
He was like, wait, wait.
Adam Friedland
Can I ask you guys, do you know, like, gay guys that are, like, really into Tel Aviv?
George Severis
Yes.
Adam Friedland
Is it really fun there? Like, what is it? Is it fun?
George Severis
I've never been to Tel Aviv, but.
Adam Friedland
How fun is it for gay guys there? I have no idea. Best ever.
George Severis
It's definitely. It's definitely like, what's going on is there's like, there are a lot. There's a lot of, like, rave culture and there's. And just like, great dance venue. This is what I've heard. I haven't been. But I do think it's not people in our circles.
Sam Taggart
Generally.
George Severis
It's not people in our circles.
Adam Friedland
And I'm saying this is like, what's happening over there in Tel Aviv that's so that, like, people are obsessed.
George Severis
Have you surely heard of the term, like, pink washing?
Adam Friedland
Washing?
George Severis
Of course. It's just like, they've always had this, like, huge, huge pride celebration. And there's, like, there's a circuit parties and there's a lot of just like, gay, gay public figures. And, like, they'll send, you know, like, I watch Eurovision every year. Oftentimes the Israeli contestant is, like, super campy and super gay.
Adam Friedland
Right. But, like, if the guys are, like, having a blast in a club, they're not like, we're pink washing right now. They're, like, having a great time. Right, Well, I think.
George Severis
Right, well, okay. Okay. So they're not like, two different.
Adam Friedland
This is pink washing.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
They're like, this is. I'm never gonna d. High.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. I think they're like, it's that thing of, like, whenever you go on a trip and you're sort of like, not considering what the politics of that trip are like.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
I think they're not, like, aware of what they're up to.
Adam Friedland
Well, I'm just asking, have you heard a report on how, on how fun it is?
George Severis
Yeah, yeah. I, I, I mean, and it is.
Adam Friedland
Particularly more fun than anywhere else or, like, most other places to be gay.
George Severis
I think Israel, if you are someone who has no experience being oppressed there, like, if you are there as like, a gay tourist.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
George Severis
Is a very fun place because it combines sort of like, it's, it's that sort of Mediterranean. It combines, like, European and Mediterranean and Middle Eastern vibes. And you're like, wow, this is unique. Like, yes, this is, like, this is a unique experience. It's not quite France. It's not quite Greece. It's not.
Sam Taggart
It always comes back to Airbnb.
Adam Friedland
Airbnb.
George Severis
I also think pink washing is different than. It's not that the gay guys are doing the pink washing. The pink washing is being done by, like, a commentator or a politician that is pointing to that as a sign of Israel's progressive values.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, yeah. Did you see when Bibi, like, when he thinks he could do, like, why do we. Like, it's so embarrassing, but, like, he, he could do open mic night anytime in Congress he wants.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
It's crazy.
Adam Friedland
But do you see, like, it's like, he, I think Jerry might be right writing for, for Bibi now, but he was like, they, I saw a sign that said Gays for Gaza. He's like, that's like saying chickens for kfc. And I'm like, that's a Jerry. That's a Jerry. That's a Jerry for sure. Yeah, they like to talk about the roof that they get.
George Severis
No, that's a favorite.
Adam Friedland
Well, it's also like my cousin.
George Severis
It's like, okay, so you're so, so you're arguing against mass murder. And then someone's like, well, if you went there, they'd be homophobic. And you're like, oh, sorry. Then I guess I'm pro master.
Adam Friedland
Baby die. The baby has to die.
George Severis
Yeah. So sorry. I, I, I didn't think of it that way.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, it's dumb.
Adam Friedland
I mean, of course.
George Severis
Okay, wait. Back to the lived experiencing. Did you feel like. Because I think, I think that you.
Sam Taggart
I think this, the topic is lived experience.
George Severis
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love that.
Adam Friedland
So I don't know anything about this stuff I'm from.
George Severis
But I'm. No, what I want to ask you is, like, it seemed to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you were almost, in recounting the story, a little embarrassed that you brought up lived experience. Like, you were like, oh, I was like, no, I think it was more.
Adam Friedland
Like saying genocide is like, in your stomach, like, from like, everything you learned about, like, the Holocaust and stuff. Like, it's really sad. Yeah, it's really sad to say that that like a Jew. Because we, like, knew of about it. Like, you know, like, if you look at like the that's what's. And it really like it that's painful. You know, I'm not saying it's like, poor me, like, no, but I like. And also for like, the older generation, like, I was kind of just thinking about my dad watching it and like, for the older generation hearing that term, it's unfathomable, you know, and it like, it makes them angry and stuff. Yeah, it's more about family and stuff like that. That's really what was going through my mind. And it didn't, it didn't inform my decision to make us to say what I wanted to say. I mean, it's really important that Jewish people, like, the, like, Jewish. There is this, like, weird, like, not weird. There's like a, a silence about it specifically because it's like, so like, crazy to admit that that like, that Jews could, could be capable of it. But, like, so it's really important that we, that we express our solidarity with it. But, like, also people just hate Jews now because they're seeing this happening in America and they're seeing like a Star of David and they're seeing our government, like, just pretty much uniformly supporting it. And Funding it. And so it's. I don't know. I used to get to be the Costanza to people.
George Severis
People.
Adam Friedland
And I. I used to be. Curb your enthusiasm. Bob Dylan. Do gay guys like Bob Dylan? I was thinking that.
Sam Taggart
This is a great question.
Adam Friedland
That's a good question.
George Severis
This is a really good question.
Adam Friedland
I was wondering that.
George Severis
Do gay guys like Bob Dylan?
Sam Taggart
I think on the whole, no, I think generally speaking, gay guys don't like Bob Dylan.
George Severis
Ginsberg liked Matthew. Really?
Adam Friedland
Like, I like Bob Dylan, but he was a pedophile. Right.
Sam Taggart
But I think.
Adam Friedland
I'm sorry. He's a friend. He's a friend. But didn't someone say he was a Nambler or something? Something.
Sam Taggart
Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was.
Adam Friedland
He was Rambler.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
It was different.
Sam Taggart
It was different.
Adam Friedland
It was different.
George Severis
It was different.
Adam Friedland
Everyone was doing black F. It was.
Sam Taggart
Like, what, are you going to add another B? Who cares?
Adam Friedland
Whatever. No, I'm just saying, it's. That's always.
George Severis
Do gay guys like Dylan?
Sam Taggart
I think, generally speaking, no.
Adam Friedland
He's my number one guy.
Sam Taggart
But I like Bob Dylan.
George Severis
No, I, I, I do. Matthew really likes Bob Dylan.
Adam Friedland
Is that your husband?
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Sick. Thanks. That's my boy.
George Severis
Dude, wait, this is. I'm.
Adam Friedland
Great question.
Sam Taggart
That was a really good question.
Adam Friedland
I thought of it in the Uber on the way here.
Sam Taggart
Really?
George Severis
Do gay guys like Bob Dylan?
Adam Friedland
Yeah, I was like, what question?
George Severis
You're, like, racking your brain.
Adam Friedland
You're like, no, it just occurred to me. I'm like, I wonder if gay guys like Bob Dylan. I. The Airbnb thing, I was also wondering about. You guys are sick of vacation. You never listen to.
George Severis
You know what the most common Airbnb hosts are? Who? Older women. Older women who are, like, widowed or divorced, because then they have this house that they, they. And they have spent their lives, like, taking care of it, whatever, and now they are sort of monetizing the domestic. Their domestic talents.
Sam Taggart
Do straight guys know who Addison Ray is?
Adam Friedland
Yeah, my friend did her videos. My. And my other friend edited it. It's, like, for my film friends. I know who it is. I don't know why.
Sam Taggart
She is a filmmaker, first and foremost.
Adam Friedland
Why is it famous? Like, why is she. Is she a good singer or, like, what is.
George Severis
It's not really about that, but she is a.
Adam Friedland
Is Bob Dylan a good singer?
George Severis
Yeah. Exactly. Is Bob Dylan a good singer?
Adam Friedland
Actually, kind of. Y. Actually, I could, I could. We could go into it if you want to, but I don't. You ain't ready for that conversation.
Sam Taggart
He's not belting you know, he's not hitting the high.
George Severis
I'd like to see him sing. Sam, he's not doing with me.
Adam Friedland
He's doing.
George Severis
Could. Could he do.
Adam Friedland
Is Barbara Riser? Yes. Yeah. I don't know. When I listen to Brat, I remember. No, but I was like, I, like, I bet, like, gay guys are having a great, huh?
Sam Taggart
Totally.
Adam Friedland
I was, like, happy, you guys.
George Severis
Well, there is.
Adam Friedland
Where.
George Severis
It's like, I. I was sort of shocked at how big it was, because to me, you need, like, years of context to understand why brat is.
Sam Taggart
Well, I do.
George Severis
It felt like people were like, noise.
Adam Friedland
I could just see people having fun.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
But I'm like, it's. Does it have to. Do I have to understand it? No. Yeah, it's fine.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I. And I did feel like a lot of people were pretending they had the context. It's like.
George Severis
I agree.
Sam Taggart
It did feel like almost.
Adam Friedland
Kamala is brat. You remember that? Say it again.
Sam Taggart
Kamal is brat.
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
Sam Taggart
That was classic.
Adam Friedland
I think that's why.
Sam Taggart
That's why she lost.
Adam Friedland
My dad called me on the phone. He said that and was like. He's like, do you hear Kamala's brat? I'm like, are you gay, dad? What the are you saying?
Sam Taggart
No. I'm glad.
Adam Friedland
He's like, did you hear? Cabal is brat.
Sam Taggart
It actually really speaks to Charlie's strength.
Adam Friedland
That.
Sam Taggart
That didn't destroy her.
George Severis
I know. It's true.
Adam Friedland
Nah, who cares? She's from England, dude. That's true.
Sam Taggart
It's like, she's cool.
Adam Friedland
I like her as a pop star.
Sam Taggart
Are you friends with her?
Adam Friedland
Her too. I've met her before. Yeah? Yeah. I met her because.
Sam Taggart
How come you meet all the gay guy girls?
Adam Friedland
Because I'm gay, dude. No, I mean, like, I like her as a pop star because she's not. Like, she just looks like a girl that you'd be friends with.
George Severis
She looks like a girl from camp, Charlie.
Adam Friedland
Like, from Jewish summer camp.
Sam Taggart
Like, a really fun girl from camp.
George Severis
I think Addison looks like a girl.
Sam Taggart
Addison's girl from camp.
Adam Friedland
No, Addison, that's a girl from high school that does not talk to you.
George Severis
Really?
Adam Friedland
That's a girl that has an adult boyfriend? Yeah, that's a girl. You're 50. 15. And she's also 15, and she's like, my boyfriend's 24 years old. You're like, but we're both 15. Wow. I was like, I can't wait to be an adult so I can have a child girlfriend.
George Severis
I know. Isn't it crazy to think of that from this perspective?
Adam Friedland
You Remember Those guys?
George Severis
Yes.
Adam Friedland
24 year olds.
Sam Taggart
Of course.
Adam Friedland
They're like, I would do anything for my son. They're always those kind of guys. They're always like neck. They had like a small cursive on their neck. Yeah. North Carolina tar heels, like sure fitted.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
Those guys a 15 year old girlfriend. Yeah.
George Severis
What do you think of Madonna?
Adam Friedland
I love. I love Madonna.
George Severis
Okay, good.
Adam Friedland
I love.
Sam Taggart
What's your favorite era?
George Severis
Ray of Light.
Adam Friedland
Don't Feed It. I mean, I love. I love. Yeah. I mean my favorite song is. There's. Okay, here's. Is Take a Bow. But there's like an edit of Take a Bow. That's like a little bit slower. It's so beautiful.
George Severis
Now you're thinking like a gay guy.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
George Severis
To say your favorite Madonna song is a take about remix.
Sam Taggart
That's wild.
George Severis
That's legendary.
Adam Friedland
It's. It's sick. Yeah, I. I think she's a great artist.
George Severis
Yeah, I agree.
Adam Friedland
And Hung up is un. Incredible song. I like AB a lot too. I like music, musicals. I. I have a Small bracelet.
George Severis
What's your favorite musical?
Adam Friedland
I mean, it's got. I'm like. I'm like the classics. I don't like the. The guy. What's his name?
George Severis
Sondheim. Oh, you don't like Sondheim? Oh, we're opposite.
Adam Friedland
It's not a good song.
George Severis
Wait, hold on.
Adam Friedland
It's not like A Little Vice. That's a good song. You are 16. That's just a song.
Sam Taggart
So that's a good song.
George Severis
You want like simple Go, right?
Adam Friedland
It's like. Shut up, dude. You're singing for no reason.
George Severis
You don't want like a elevated, sophisticated musical. You want just like something that sounds good. A tourist going to Broadway, seeing Phantom.
Adam Friedland
All right, whatever, dude. I'm basic. I just like good songs. Dude, it's like a tonal.
George Severis
What about Sending the Clowns? You don't like that?
Adam Friedland
Yeah, it's all right.
George Severis
Okay, that's. Yeah.
Adam Friedland
You catch one good one every now and then. I like. Yeah, I like Les Miz probably. That's the best one. It's got revolution. Sure.
George Severis
Oh, God. Wow.
Sam Taggart
Political.
George Severis
He can't stop at interviews. Richie Torres once.
Adam Friedland
I like Les Miz. It's a epic. Jean Bel.
Sam Taggart
I'm trying to. Other gay.
Adam Friedland
I like Fiddler on the Roof.
Sam Taggart
I kind of.
Adam Friedland
I like all the classics.
George Severis
Fire. Well, yeah. I love sound.
Sam Taggart
That's a classic.
Adam Friedland
So good. How do you solve a problem? Like real.
George Severis
Literally.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, I mean, I like all those ones. I've never been to a musical on Broadway. Is it fun?
Sam Taggart
Me either, actually.
George Severis
It is fun.
Adam Friedland
I like plays a lot.
George Severis
I'm much more play than musical.
Adam Friedland
Wait, do you, as standups, do you have, like, a natural empathy when you're out of play? Yes, because I'm like, they have to get it right once.
Sam Taggart
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
It's like if you're shooting a movie, you. You have a million takes is easy mode. And I'm like, just do it. Just pull through. You got one shot.
George Severis
Literally. Going to a play is one of the most full body experiences I think I can imagine. Like, I'm empathizing on, like, five different levels at all times. I'm also literally. I can't be at a play and not constantly think, like, God, theater. Like, I can't. I can't, like, get out of my head enough to just watch. It's like, I'm just so grateful to. To be there. I can't believe that, like, everything led to the point where these people are saying these lines at me. Even if it's a bad play. I mean, we both just saw a bad play. Even if it's a bad play.
Adam Friedland
I don't know if it's a bad play because I've actually.
Sam Taggart
You can tell.
Adam Friedland
Maybe. I don't know if I've seen a bad play. I haven't seen that many plays. I like Kenneth Lonergan a lot, you know?
George Severis
Yes.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah. I saw.
George Severis
Do you like Margaret?
Adam Friedland
Are you kidding me? The best.
George Severis
The best movie ever.
Adam Friedland
The best. The three hour director's cut, brother. I actually, that's what I said to Ruffalo when I was. Last week. I was like, you gotta go. Three hour director's cut. It's.
George Severis
They're.
Adam Friedland
They're all like these, like. He's. He's just the best.
George Severis
He's incredible.
Adam Friedland
And so, like. But I saw this play starring Elaine May where she plays this like. Like matriarch who's like, going into, like, dementia.
George Severis
Wait, I know. The name is escaping me. Oh, fuck. I remember. It was like eight years ago or something.
Adam Friedland
It was so.
George Severis
And it wasn't Michael. Sarah. It was like some.
Adam Friedland
That redhead guy that was in everything.
George Severis
Eddie Redma?
Adam Friedland
No, no, the redhead guy. He was in Manchester by the Sea. The redhead.
George Severis
Lucas Hedges.
Adam Friedland
Hedges, yes. Oh, he was in it. And then I saw. Oh, I saw the Leopold shot. I thought that was really. Me too.
George Severis
That was great.
Adam Friedland
It made me cry.
George Severis
Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Friedland
And I was next to my girlfriend's parents and her. And it was like, I can't just. I can't. I'm just gonna Always be a Jew.
George Severis
And I'm like, this is multiple generations of Jewish families.
Sam Taggart
I don't know what the hell.
George Severis
I'm sorry.
Adam Friedland
It's like these guys.
George Severis
Sam lives in L. A, you know, for him, what do you go?
Adam Friedland
Viper Room, Sunset Strip.
Sam Taggart
I just don't see very many plays. Okay, I've seen two plays in my.
Adam Friedland
Life and that many times, but every time I go, I'm like, this is awesome.
Sam Taggart
I've seen two whole plays in my life. When I see rain on stage, I'm like, how the hell are they doing, doing that?
Adam Friedland
Oh, I've never been to like hot, that kind of play.
Sam Taggart
I'm like, now the stage is gonna be all wet.
Adam Friedland
You go stomp. Yeah. I remember I grew up in Vegas and there was a Andrew Lloyd Weber play where everyone was on rollerblades. It was about trains or something. What was that one called? Something Express. Starlight Express. Wow, this is a well known thing. I remember there was like a commercial for it, like when I was growing up, like when I was a little kid. I was like, that looks so fun. These guys are all, it's a rollerblading plane.
George Severis
And are they meant to be the train because they're rollerblading?
Adam Friedland
I guess. So what is it? What goes on in that one? I don't know.
George Severis
We don't know.
Mario Lopez
Ridiculous.
Sam Taggart
The people are the trains.
George Severis
The people are the trains.
Adam Friedland
It's the music of the night, brother.
George Severis
Period.
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George Severis
Everyone loves me at the cancer and then the Aries comes out and they.
Adam Friedland
Said, who the is that?
George Severis
No, you're gonna come for me being an Aries and you have a sag Moon.
Adam Friedland
Get out of here. But I'm a Capricorn rising, so that honestly balances it out and makes me more likable. Okay, that is your Capricorn talking. Listen to High key on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up?
Mario Lopez
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George Severis
We have to do our final I.
Adam Friedland
Could ask me the last thing Adam. It's like I'll tell you all the gay stuff about me and I and I wanna.
Sam Taggart
Okay, did you and your friends like jerk off in high school?
Adam Friedland
But like we. Yeah, there was like jerked off with your friends. Summer camp was like the most home like homo rot. But it wasn't. But then you find out like, like a couple of the kids were gay and then you kind of feel bad. Like did that put that. Was that make them feel uncomfortable?
George Severis
Well, from our perspective, we've never been.
Sam Taggart
Invited to the school?
George Severis
We were never invited.
Adam Friedland
Didn't go to camp?
Sam Taggart
Yeah, I didn't go to camp.
George Severis
I went to camp.
Adam Friedland
Where'd you go? Well, this was.
George Severis
So my family moved back to Greece when I was in high school, but before that we lived in New Jersey. And so I went to this, like, basically Greek church. No, like, Greek church camp. But it was like. There was. But there was a lot of like.
Sam Taggart
Stay the night?
George Severis
Yeah, yeah, stay the night. It was sort of like camping or like, not camping, but like log cabin vibes. I remember there was this one kid who jerked off onto the ceiling and. And like, wanted to show everyone the stain he made with his come. On the ceiling? No, he was on the top bunk. Top bunk. So it was not that bad. Yeah, yeah.
Sam Taggart
Low ceilings.
George Severis
He got on a top bunk. Low ceiling, three feet.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, you could do that.
Adam Friedland
No, he's.
George Severis
Add that the torque you get at that age.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Your boner is like, angry.
George Severis
No, no, it's literally like get. You have a pissed off your boner.
Adam Friedland
I need a. Yeah, it's not right. Yeah, yeah.
Sam Taggart
It's pretty scary.
Adam Friedland
Honestly. It's. Those are the best years in the world. But what happen public school.
George Severis
Yeah, I both.
Adam Friedland
Were you afraid to get called gay? Yeah, I kind of feel like it. But it probably made you guys, like, successful adults. Adults? No.
Sam Taggart
You mean like sociopaths or, like.
Adam Friedland
I don't know. It's like. I don't know. I feel like every gay guy I know works way harder than. Than everyone else.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Friedland
The fear of being called gay for straight kids was good too, because I had to, like, survive also. Yeah.
George Severis
But then for straight kids. For straight kids, if you're being called gay, then you, like, become homophobic. Whereas for gay kids, then you become. You would try to overcompensate by, like, going to the gym or something.
Adam Friedland
No, I got funny. I got.
George Severis
You got funny?
Adam Friedland
Yeah, yeah. I was like, I have to survive.
Sam Taggart
So you're like, I'm not gay, I'm funny.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, I was like, I was the funny guy. I can't be made fun of. Like, I have to like, learn jokes or something and.
Sam Taggart
Sure, sure.
Adam Friedland
There's no way I'm going to find a wife. I mean, like, like, I, you know, I. I'm just saying, like, my friend teaches at a progressive, like, middle school, seventh grade, and she was telling me that the straight kids are getting bullied.
George Severis
Well, okay, so. But I do think crazy think that's on its way out. That was like this micro era of.
Adam Friedland
Like, I don't know if it is. I don't hang out seventh grade too much.
George Severis
Well, you should. I'll, I'll take you, I'll take you with me next time I go to my, my favorite seventh class.
Sam Taggart
I worked at an after school program here like a few years ago and like one of the older boys started like saying gay pejorative and I was.
Adam Friedland
Like, we're, we're back.
George Severis
It was crazy.
Adam Friedland
We're back.
George Severis
I think we're back.
Adam Friedland
And I mean, it's just like, it seems like. I don't know, I feel like you develop like the worst hand to be dealt is like you get laid at like 14, you don't have to develop at all. Yeah, like, like gay kids had to like survive and like just get tough and like you like, and, and like smart. Totally. And then like we, I had to survive by saying like, I gotta find my thing because I'm not. I mean I, I have one pube. Like I'm just like, I saw porn and I think that all dicks are 12 inches. And I probably have the. I, I'm not going to find a wife. Like, I was like, there is kind of like a, a Darwinistic aspect to it.
George Severis
Yeah, but then how do you. Sorry, go ahead.
Sam Taggart
Well, I thought I had the biggest dick on earth until I hooked up with like 100 guys. And I was like, oh, wait, Never mind. Really?
Adam Friedland
100 guys?
Sam Taggart
Well, yeah, like 100,000.
Adam Friedland
100. Wait.
Sam Taggart
But when I was like a kid, I was like, oh my God. I don't think I was like, the.
Adam Friedland
First time I saw it was like, it was like, okay, it was like, like, like agree. And I'm like, what am I going to do? I'm like, I'm, I'm never going to find the wife. I'm like, I have to do, I have to do something. I'm going to die alone.
Sam Taggart
I think it's this way with sex and I think it's this way with drinking and smoking. Like, I think you literally have to wait till you're fully cooked to have.
George Severis
Sex and to drink and smoke.
Sam Taggart
Yeah. Cuz then you're like, oh, well, I could just do that. You're like, no. You're like, let's stop.
Adam Friedland
Well, the J boys all started on the nugs early.
Sam Taggart
Okay.
Adam Friedland
We like, like, we like blazing.
Sam Taggart
Sure, sure.
Adam Friedland
And then I, I, I, I became friends with the Mexican kids in my school because they were like, oh, like, you're like Adam, you like like mota.
George Severis
They used to say to me, let's not do Acts.
Adam Friedland
Wait, wait.
Sam Taggart
He's been doing character work.
Adam Friedland
But, like, all the gay. All. All the gay. All the Mexican kids in my school were obsessed with. Because they were like, you're like an emo. They'd say, sure, sure. And I was like, I don't know, Emo. Like. Like radio head. And then I like. I like some hip hop and that, you know? And they were like. They were like, do you like Los Smiths? And like, they like the Smith, but in particular, Morrissey. Yeah. And I was like. I was like, well, that's like, that's. I was like, that's kind of interesting because I was like, I thought you guys are incredibly homophobic. And they were like. They're like, that's a up thing to say about Morrissey, dude. And they, like, didn't get. They didn't get that he's gay. They're like, why are you saying that about Morrissey?
George Severis
It's funny, the things that translate to different cultures. In Greece, for example, when I. When we moved back to Greece, the cool. I was coming from a sort of like. I feel like the cool thing was, like, preppy at that. It was like Abercrombie era, early 2000s. I moved back to Greece, and the cool thing in Greece was to, like, heavy metal. Like, everyone liked, like, Black Sabbath. And I was. I was so out of my depth. I had no idea. To me, Ozzy Osma was just like, on the Osbornes. On tv.
Adam Friedland
Great show.
George Severis
Great show. And rest in peace. Even though he.
Adam Friedland
He was his highness. I heard he was.
George Severis
I heard he and Joan Rivers are hugging in heaven and saying, go, Israel.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, yeah. Jewish heaven.
Sam Taggart
Yeah, yeah.
George Severis
Yes, famously.
Adam Friedland
Yeah, yeah. No, it's. I remember once I was, like, over, like, when I was, like, 18, I was. There was a Russian kid that came up to me and he. He's like. He's like, answer me this. He's like, oh, sorry. I'm doing a.
George Severis
No, no, no. This you're allowed to do.
Adam Friedland
He's like, in. Are you a mythist? Uhhuh. And I was like, like, what? Like, do I, like, do, like, iron work or something? He's like, you're like Metallica. Yeah. He thought I was a medalist. And I was like, no, it's too scary. What are they? They're singing about the hell in the scary.
George Severis
Do you remember being told that Ozzy bit the head off a bat?
Sam Taggart
Wait, did. Did he not.
George Severis
No, he did. It was just so scarring. Okay, we should do.
Sam Taggart
Okay, we should go.
Adam Friedland
I gotta go, guys. This has been so Fun. I got the Adam Frele show.
George Severis
We're doing the final. No, we're doing the final.
Adam Friedland
I cry once an episode.
Sam Taggart
Okay, we have to do our final segment.
George Severis
Yeah.
Adam Friedland
What is it?
Sam Taggart
It's shout outs. We have to shout out anything that we are enjoying. People, places, things, ideas.
George Severis
It's a tribute. It's a tribute to the straight tradition of the radio. Shout out.
Sam Taggart
And we will.
George Severis
If you're on Z100, you're shouting out something and we think of them on the spot and they're in earnest. Yeah, yeah. Go, go. Oh, Oh.
Sam Taggart
I can do it.
George Severis
Okay.
Adam Friedland
What's up?
George Severis
What's up, freaks and losers? I give a shout out to speaking of theater, my friend Lindsay's newsletter called not broadway.substack.com that tells you all the listings for non Broadway affordable theater. I'm doing a real public service now. This is not a joke. You can subscribe. It's free, and you can look through and it's, you know, $45, $15. Sounds good. And so shout out Lindsay Weber and shout out to supporting off Broadway and off off Broadway theater. And I don't have a joke about it.
Adam Friedland
Okay.
Sam Taggart
What's up, freaks? Lo perverts. I want to give a shout out to letting your hair down. I yesterday went to drop off a phone charger at a friend's house, and he said it was like around 2pm and he said he started smoking weed. Do you want some? And I said, trying to get back into it. He said, it's 2:00pm I said, it's 2pm and then he said, who cares? And I said, well, this is crazy. I've never just smoked weed at 2pm on a Monday. And then I had and I did it and then I went for a walk and I was like, well, why not just let your hair down?
Adam Friedland
Have one. You put on a headphone.
George Severis
Oh, yeah.
Sam Taggart
I was walking around the park.
Adam Friedland
This is you.
Sam Taggart
Oh, you know, I was probably listening to Big thief. Let's say that new album, Shout out Big thief. And shout out letting your hair down. Xoxo, Sam.
Adam Friedland
All right, Adam, just check out radio lab. They're doing great work over here. They're studying what it's like to. To like.
George Severis
Or to, you know, women are straight too.
Adam Friedland
Women are. Yeah. What it's like to let, like, them to com.
George Severis
You know, complain.
Sam Taggart
Like three of them complain.
George Severis
Yeah. What it's like for women to complain and Mendel, like.
Adam Friedland
Yeah. And then what? Check out the Adam Freelo show. Thanks for having me, guys.
Sam Taggart
Hey, thanks.
George Severis
So much fun.
Adam Friedland
Thanks for doing it. I. I'm. I. I loved it.
Sam Taggart
Okay, Bye.
George Severis
Bye.
Sam Taggart
Podcast ends now.
George Severis
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Adam Friedland
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The NFL International Games continue on NFL Network and here our stars come out in the morning. Week 10 Bajan Robinson and the Falcons take on Daniel Jones and the Colts in Berlin. Then in week 11, Jaden Daniels and the Commanders touchdown once again. Face Tua and the Dolphins in Madrid. Snooze off game on Sunday morning Football continues November 9th at 9:30 Eastern only on NFL Network. This is an iHeart podcast.
Date: October 21, 2025
Hosts: George Civeris, Sam Taggart
Guest: Adam Friedland
Network: Big Money Players / iHeartPodcasts
In this lively and insightful episode, comedians George Civeris and Sam Taggart welcome Adam Friedland (comedian, former co-host of Cum Town, and host of The Adam Friedland Show) to unpack the episode's theme: lived experience—how it shapes straight and gay cultures, politics, and personal relationships. The conversation unspools into a meandering, sharp, and honest look at everything from comedy scenes, gay/straight dynamics, generational shifts, culture wars, vacation habits, proposing marriage, and the uncomfortable intersections of identity, politics, and public discourse. True to StraightioLab's signature style, the episode blends cultural critique with irreverent humor and deeply candid moments.
“Their divas are gay comedians. It’s like Barbra Streisand, but first-rate.” – Adam Friedland [03:40]
“Gay guys are incredible at vacation.” – Adam Friedland [18:35]
“It’s more romantic to never fully understand one another.” – George Severis [35:45]
“If someone feels anti-Semitism on a college campus…you can’t refute lived experience, right? So I respond with my experience.” – Adam Friedland [69:23]
On the difference between straight and gay sex:
“I think gay sex is the purest form of recreational sex.”
— Adam Friedland [36:45]
On trying to propose:
“My inside man, her friend, wasted—just hammered 9:15 [pm]…I turned to her friend. I’m like, ‘Thanks a lot, you’…It’s my life. This is my life…”
— Adam Friedland [48:27–49:15]
On lived experience as rhetorical device:
“It is kind of like a little bit of a move, right? It’s a conversation ender.”
— Adam Friedland [69:06]
On comedy podcasting and backlash:
“We were like, ‘This is dog shit. We were, like, depressed…’ and then I think YouTube, there’s fan clip compilations. It was mad funny.”
— Adam Friedland [24:07]
On generational trauma in families discussing Israel:
“My dad literally called me Hitler...We always do. It’s dinner.”
— Adam Friedland [64:52]
On Broadway and musicals:
“I’m basic. I just like good songs. Dude, it’s like atonal!”
— Adam Friedland [83:44]
On gay adolescent trauma:
“I feel like every gay guy I know works way harder than everyone else.”
— Adam Friedland [92:46]
Each participant gives an earnest or tongue-in-cheek “shout out”—ranging from local theater newsletters to “letting your hair down” at 2pm, to simple joys (“radio lab…studying what it’s like to…to like, or to—you know, women are straight too”). [98:00+]
"Lived Experience" with Adam Friedland stands out for its deft interweaving of social commentary, pop culture analysis, and intimate anecdotes. The episode offers a nuanced, pulse-of-the-culture window into how personal histories color public discourse, relationships, and identity, all leavened by a comic’s irreverence. Whether discussing failed proposals or political infighting, the hosts and guest never lose sight of the humor and humanity in lived experience.