"Motorcycles" w/ Meatball

Summary

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Podcast Summary: StraightioLab – “Motorcycles” w/ Meatball

Date: December 2, 2025
Hosts: George Civeris & Sam Taggart
Guest: Meatball
Network: Big Money Players Network & iHeartPodcasts
Topic: An irreverent, deeply queer probe into “motorcycle culture” as a trope, its surprising intersections with straightness, community, drag, and the ever-permeating specter of etiquette.

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Episode Overview

This episode of StraightioLab sees George, Sam, and their guest, drag artist and party impresario Meatball, rev their engines into the world of motorcycles as a locus of straight masculinity, rebellion, and—sometimes—unexpected queerness. The trio takes listeners through the straight and gay signifiers interwoven in motorcycle culture, the drag-ification of biking, etiquette debates, therapy discourse, nightlife habits, and surreal moments in queer life and media.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. LA Hotels, Therapy & Barbershop Conundrums

• [03:25] The episode opens with George describing his LA hotel stay and discovering a hotel barbershop offering Zoom therapy for $100, which is cheaper than the $120 haircut.
  • "The Barbershop offers Zoom therapy." – George [05:03]
• Conversation about how therapy culture has seeped so far into urban amenities, even seeping into typically “masculine” spaces, and how the hosts/guests relate to therapy vs. communal forms of support.
• Sam and George discuss their own barbers as informal therapists—with Sam preferring barbers who will “out-insane” him in conversation, whereas George opines about trying to avoid conflict with a Trump-supporter barber in Boston.

2. Barber-as-Therapist, Community, and Modern Loneliness

• [07:45–09:44] The group reflects on the decline of community interactions ("talk to your barber who’s known you since 14") and the rise of pay-per-session therapy as a replacement for old social supports.
  • "In those [Greek] villages, actually, everyone you encounter is a therapist... It’s like shopping for therapists but for free." — George [09:04]
• The group jokes about the "training" of barbers—as well as varied forms of emotional masochism.
• Notable Quote:
  • “There are times when you’re like, ‘I’m now gonna do it,’... The performance is very controlled. It doesn’t seem chaotic and messy.” — George to Meatball [24:48]

3. Meatball’s Entrance and the Etiquette of Gifts

• [11:16] Meatball joins and immediately laments losing her own barber, another “therapist figure,” and discusses the pains of breaking up with a barber.
• Spirited debate about gift-giving at parties, dinner, and as houseguests, with regional and class signifiers analyzed:
  • “If it’s a trade off, then you treat them to dinner.” — George [19:26]
  • Meatball recounts the awkwardness of bringing cheap tequila to a celebrity (implied as Amy Schumer) party:
    • "She looked at it and kind of, like, put it in the garage." — Meatball [21:06]

4. Nightlife: Timing, Drinking, and Energy

• [22:42] The “ships passing” syndrome in LA gay nightlife—Meatball reveals she turns up at the Eagle at 5pm, while Sam is a nighttime regular.
• Meatball on blackout drinking: “Three double tequila sodas an hour. ... No one will know that I’m blackout, my eyes don’t go totally louder.” [23:51]
• The contrast between LA and New York bar/nightlife, with nostalgia for true late nights (“New York is open until 4 but less and less; you’d be surprised.” – George [25:18])
• Incidents in dark rooms, turning the lights on to signal closing, and the shocking visibility this creates mid-hookup:
  • “You signed up for a very particular sexual experience and it is being altered without your consent.” — George [26:52]

5. The Segment Game: “Straight Shooters”

• [36:43] Classic lightning-round riff session on cultural signifiers (e.g., "To infinity and beyond, or losing your virginity to James Bond?") [37:08]
• Hilarity ensues over which James Bond actor is most sexually appealing—consensus: Daniel Craig [38:39].

6. Media, Manners, and the Etiquette Book for the “Real as F***”

• [18:03] The group dreams of a new “etiquette book for people who are real as fuck,” with Delta Work as the ideal author, to balance honesty with non-manipulative politeness.

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Core Topic: Motorcycles as Straight & Queer Signifier

1. The Dykes on Bikes Moment and “Queering the Motorcycle”

• [48:14] Meatball introduces the topic: "Motorcycle culture. ..."
• She owns and maintains her own motorcycle, recounts a famous viral incident at Pride where she—while in drag—was mistakenly referenced as trans on live TV by Dykes on Bikes leadership.
  • "I'm on ABC News and the leader of Dykes on Bike says, 'We're here to support our trans community,' and then gestures over at me and I'm waving and I'm like, 'But I'm not trans.' And that's the clip. And it's really embarrassing." — Meatball [49:30]
• Discussion of the masculine vibe in bike shops and motorcycle spaces—even in queer or drag circles—and the struggle to find non-masc, explicitly “queen” energy in how-to and repair content online.

2. Problems with Existing Motorcycle Community & the Need for Queerer Versions

• Meatball expresses the wish for a more visibly queer, femme, or campy motorcycle culture:
  • "I want like, hey sister, if you don’t put your chain on right you’re gonna fucking die, bitch." — Meatball [51:17]
  • "It's less about gay-straight, it's more about masc and femme. ... We need twinks on bikes." — George/Meatball [52:19–53:26]
• They brainstorm what a “twink motorcyclist” scene would look like (e.g. mesh shorts, absolute rainbow tank) [53:05]

3. Safety, Leather, and Symbolism

• Explains function vs. fashion: Leather is practical for road rash protection, but also straight-coded, and to some, a misplaced signifier.
  • "You can wear whatever you want, baby." — Meatball [54:23]
• Musings on the myth of the “lone rider,” how motorcycle and car culture split along axes of individualism, family, and community, but also how decks, mods, and decor can be surprisingly gay-coded if queered intentionally.

4. The Fantasy: Queer Motorcycle Media

• Group imagines a queer motorcycle film franchise:
  • "We need the spirit of roller derby but for motorcycles." — George [61:12]
  • The leads: A twink, a bear, and a nerd (Sam), each with different powers (whip, hacking, gun), “Charlie’s Angels but gayer;” imagined soundtrack by Charli XCX (children’s choir doing “Vroom Vroom”) [62:21 & 62:27]
• Movie climax: The trio launches motorcycles into space to save Katy Perry, scored to "Firework" [65:09].
• Meatball's dream: Homegrown gay motorcycle culture, not just ironic takeovers of straight signifiers.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “All I really want is YouTube tutorials from a queen. ... I want gay shit.” — Meatball [51:17]
• “Three double tequila sodas an hour. ... If I don’t have something, my mouth needs tequila.” — Meatball [23:51]
• “More than 50% of apologies are actually manipulative.” — George [17:25]
• “You know, Jeep culture—they, like, hand out ducks to each other... Men do it to men all the time. ... But on motorcycle culture, it’s more about being a lone wolf.” — Meatball [58:09]
• “Motorcycle is pretty safe.” — George (sarcastically downplaying stats) [55:07]
• “I want a gun so bad. Just as an accessory.” — Meatball [63:51]
• “You signed up for a very particular sexual experience and it is being altered without your consent.” — George on unexpected dark room lighting [26:52]
• “I almost hit a girl on the way here too. ... I was rolling down my window to scream 'faggot' at you out the window.” — Meatball [42:41] (classic biting, outrageous, self-parodying humor)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• LA Therapy Barbershops & Community Loss: [03:25–11:10]
• Gift Giving & Etiquette: [18:03–22:00]
• Nightlife & Drinking Styles: [22:42–27:10]
• Straight Shooters Segment: [36:43–39:00]
• Motorcycle Culture Main Topic: [48:14–66:38]
• Inventing Queer Movies/Media: [61:11–65:50]
• Shoutouts Segment (radio-style tributes): [76:20–79:59]

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Episode’s Language & Tone

• Biting, irreverent, self-deprecating, but insightful; panel cycles fluidly between personal anecdote, cultural criticism, and absurd comedy.
• Humor frequently walks the line—gleefully taboo, satirical, and deeply “inside” LGBTQ culture, with a strong sense of meta-commentary on contemporary etiquette, activism, and identity.

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Conclusion

The episode brilliantly skewers the over-masculinization of motorcycle culture—even in its queer spaces—and yearns for a version of motorcycling that is unabashedly femme, campy, and homegrown (not just a parody of straightness). Beyond bikes, it serves as a microcosm for debating how queer people really want their own signifiers—practical, safe, ridiculous, and above all, real.

Final Shoutouts:

- Ordering room service, Intelligentsia baristas, Airbnb hosts that don’t charge for pool heat (especially “Jen”), Sloppy Seconds podcast, Fat Slut drag party, global entry, guns as an accessory, and of course, motorcycles that could be gayer.

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Listen to the full episode for even more camp, critique, and queer chaos!

Transcript

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[George Severis]

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[Sam Taggart]

Podcast starts now. Breaking news. George is in a good mood. Yeah, I'd love to hear about why.

[George Severis]

Well, I just am excited to finally be sitting down on a chair and talking to friends.

[Sam Taggart]

I can't help but wonder. That is sort of 90% of your life.

[George Severis]

Totally.

[Sam Taggart]

Why does now feel different?

[George Severis]

Well, because I've been. Listen, I'm in la. I'm staying in a hotel.

[Sam Taggart]

So true.

[George Severis]

And it's a lot of, like, laptop work in my hotel. There's something that boutique hotels are doing now, which is so cool, which is that they look like prison cells. They're kind of like if you pay extra, it can look like you're Natalie Portman and V for Vendetta. And will even actually shave your head.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

And speaking of shaved heads, I actually had something I wanted to show you, so I will. Now, this is gonna come out after I'm away from la, so I can dox myself and say I'm staying at the Line Hotel. The Line Los Angeles.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay.

[George Severis]

And I enter. There's a QR code. It says there's a barber shop on site. I say, perfect. Cause I've actually been meaning clean up my neck a little bit. I click the QR code and I look at the offerings at the barbershop. And I want you to read to me. So we have haircut, buzz cut, back of neck razor cleanup. Start sort of scrolling and see what you see.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm so scared. What if I don't see it? This is my worst.

[George Severis]

No, you're gonna see it.

[Sam Taggart]

Is it the signature bespoke?

[George Severis]

No. No.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay. I'm so scared. Therapy.

[George Severis]

Therapy. Would you like to read what that is?

[Sam Taggart]

A zoom call with our therapist. An exploration of your internal limitations that will help shape the new you.

[George Severis]

The Barbershop offers zoom therapy.

[Sam Taggart]

What the hell?

[George Severis]

And by the way, I don't know if you noticed, cheaper than a haircut. A therapy session is $100 for 30 minutes. A haircut is 120. What? The line Hotel in Los Angeles Barbershop offers the cheapest therapy and the most expensive haircut you could find in the city of Los Angeles.

[Sam Taggart]

That is so shocking.

[George Severis]

A Buzz cut is $80. I paid $30.

[Meatball]

I've never heard.

[George Severis]

I paid $36 for a fade. In New York City, a Buzz cut is $81 length all over. If we begin to fade, that is considered a haircut and not a buzz cut. A fade is $120 at the line. A.

[Sam Taggart]

That's in the description.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

There's no need to be that litigious.

[George Severis]

Therapy session is $100.

[Sam Taggart]

What are these people doing?

[George Severis]

Also, also, who in Los Angeles is coming? It's like, they came here for the big meeting and it's not going their way. And they're like, I'm like, on my last, like, I need a therapy. A zoom therapy session at the barbershop right now.

[Sam Taggart]

A therapist at the barbershop who has no concept of my history, like, has no idea what I've been up to. And basically I have to be like, so basically my mom was like this, my dad was like this, and my meeting went like this. Please help.

[George Severis]

First you are walking in with a knife pointed to your wrist saying, if I don't get the zoom therapy session at the barbershop line LA right now, I'm gonna do it.

[Sam Taggart]

Why the barbershop? I mean, let's start here. I think therapy from the hotel is, of course, insane, but why put it in the barbershop, do you think?

[George Severis]

It's kind of like, you know, they have various offerings and there's like food, room service, whatever. And therapy is kind of miscellaneous. So they're like, well, it's kind of wellness.

[Sam Taggart]

It's kind of wellness. You should add it to the spa. You need to make a spa.

[George Severis]

That's true. Yeah. It should be part of the spa.

[Sam Taggart]

I don't know if there is a spa even.

[George Severis]

Honestly, part of the gym would make more sense in the barbershop.

[Sam Taggart]

That's true. Is it therapy? Like, are they just leaving out the word massage?

[George Severis]

Like, nope, it is. It's like a better help type thing. And by the way, shout out, shout out, shout out. It's a better help type thing where, like, there are there. I actually know someone. I know her father is doing this kind of in a almost post retirement age.

[Meatball]

He's.

[George Severis]

He's just like at home doing 30 minute Zoom sessions. And it's sort of like he doesn't have any real consistent clients.

[Sam Taggart]

They just pop in for a sec, kind of.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

And just be like, I have to rant.

[George Severis]

He's probably a partner with the Lion Hotel Los Angeles.

[Sam Taggart]

They're like, I called my friend, she didn't answer, so now it's you.

[George Severis]

Yeah, he's like, girl, let's talk about it.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, you know what it is? It's that thing from, like, five years ago when it would be like, are you in a place where you can hear my negative energy? Like that. People have really internalized that, and they're like, okay, so I'm not allowed to talk to anyone unless they are technically a therapist. No one else can give me consent properly for me to complain to them.

[George Severis]

You know what I was thinking, though? And after this, we will bring in our guest. Okay. Obviously, I don't love that the barbershop offers therapy.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay?

[George Severis]

But imagine a world where you could simply combine getting a haircut and going to therapy. You have the barber there. They. I don't know, maybe they sign an NDA. They don't. They. They are not allowed to, like, talk about anything they've heard. But you kill two birds with 1st. They both take sort of approximately, like, 45 minutes. You get a haircut while doing therapy. You're also in a more vulnerable place often, and you're on the barber's chair.

[Sam Taggart]

Not to. I'm like, the thing is, you can have this if you just pick the right barber.

[George Severis]

No, no, I mean. Okay, you're saying your barber is your therapist.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm saying, like, the reason we. I'm sort of stuck on this. Like, we need therapy now because everyone is like, I have no time to talk to you. Like, whereas if you had a community and a sense of place, and you could talk to your barber and be like, you've known me since I was 14. What do you think about this thing that's happening to me? Then you could sort of grow. And he would be like, oh, you know, it's like this, this, this. And you'd be like, oh, I love my trusted community. I don't need a therapist anymore. I just talk to my barber for 30 minutes.

[George Severis]

Well, you know, it's interesting as someone who comes from, you know, a small village in Greece a couple of generations ago.

[Sam Taggart]

Like Athens.

[George Severis]

No, not Athens. So before that, one of the largest. My great grandparents came from villages. And, you know, I visited those villages. And in those villages, actually, everyone you encounter is a therapist of some sort. And they each do a different modality. Like, one of them is a little more accepting. One of them will just call you fat. One of them will be like, your. Your mother was a slut. Your grandmother was a slut when she was in the village. Not my mother. She grew up in Athens. Your grandmother was a slut when she was in the village. And then that's kind of it. One of them will take their teeth out. And so you kind of get. It's like shopping for therapists, but for free. And you get all these different modalities. Some of them are more LGBTQ friendly. Some of them are actually violently hom.

[Sam Taggart]

Which is valid.

[George Severis]

Which is valid.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, that's their training. That's their training, and that's valid. I mean, my barber currently is so helpful.

[George Severis]

Really?

[Sam Taggart]

Yes. I'm addicted to him. Well, he is, like, kind of just like. Like, imagine like, a crazy guy that lives in Silver Lake and who's, like, straight, but then will be like, yeah, I fuck guys. Like.

[George Severis]

And you're like, that's kind of best case scenario for a barber.

[Sam Taggart]

Best case scenario. And like, he's like this person where you're just like, okay, so I can say anything to you and you' like, double it with, like, if I sound insane, you'll just say something more insane. So I feel no self consciousness in talking to him at all.

[George Severis]

So I had. I know we're edging our guests and we will bring her in. I had a. The opposite experience when I lived in Boston in 2016, and my barber was a Trump supporter in where I kind of found myself. Yes. Anding too much. Like, I was trying to not express my beliefs, but also not, like, be combative, because what is the point of that? So it would be like, you know, the Democrats and the Republicans are both bullshit. I'm like, yuck. Honestly, like, for sure. Like, I definitely think they both have their issues. But then it's like, we would get comfortable. Comfortable, Comfortable. He has a knife to my throat. And. And it's like, okay. Then he's telling me that he's voting for Trump, and I have to be like, I get it.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's tough. You gotta find the right barber.

[George Severis]

I know. I have to find the right barber. They have to be sort of in the DSA and voting for Zuron.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. To get that barber, let's bring in our guest. Our guest is.

[Meatball]

You got this. I believe in you.

[Sam Taggart]

A luminary.

[George Severis]

Ooh.

[Podcast Advertiser]

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[Sam Taggart]

A luminary of the LGBTQ scene.

[George Severis]

Ooh.

[Sam Taggart]

Especially if that scene is in Los Angeles. California.

[George Severis]

Ooh.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay.

[Meatball]

She's local, toured the world. Thank you.

[George Severis]

Okay. Local queen, one of our local queens.

[Sam Taggart]

And where would you go? North Hollywood. Please give it up for me, Paul.

[Meatball]

Hello. How are you?

[Sam Taggart]

So good. How are you?

[Meatball]

I'm sad because you guys keep talking about the barber, and my barber literally just sent me a text Message being like, I'm moving to West Adams. I know this means nothing to you.

[Sam Taggart]

What's West Adams?

[Meatball]

It's, like, on the. It's like Century City. It's just. It's just too far for me to go.

[Sam Taggart]

That's really.

[Meatball]

He's, like, in my neighborhood, and he was my therapist, and he.

[George Severis]

Was he gay? I mean, he still lives.

[Meatball]

No, he has a wife and daughter, but.

[Sam Taggart]

But he hooks up with guys.

[Meatball]

No, he just is cool.

[George Severis]

Totally. Sure, sure, sure.

[Meatball]

And, like, would let me, like, rant to him all the time.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

And bright pink hair. I'm giving too much away. I shouldn't tell you.

[George Severis]

I mean, it's all positive.

[Sam Taggart]

It's all positive.

[Meatball]

But he's, like, moving, and I don't know how to break up with him, I guess, is the problem. Maybe I should. And also at the Lion Hotel, best martini I've ever had. Really? You go down by the pool. There's a bar that's in a greenhouse. Have you explored the hotel?

[George Severis]

Open air is what it's called. No. Oh, is it what the restaurant is.

[Meatball]

Open air.

[George Severis]

Sure.

[Meatball]

I don't know. I just know where it is when I'm in a blackout.

[George Severis]

Totally.

[Meatball]

And so then I go up there and I drink my martinis, and that's where the therapist should be.

[Sam Taggart]

That's where therapists are.

[George Severis]

Martinian therapy. I mean, they should just add a therapy option to their various amenities. Okay, I got a therapist in the gym. You can therapist in the restaurant. You can get a therapist at the bar.

[Meatball]

The problem with the therapist in a barbershop is I don't want to look at myself when I'm talking about myself.

[George Severis]

Oh, yeah, that's very, like. That's like me on every zoom meeting where I have to then remember, oh, you should be paying attention rather than just looking at, like, how your facial lines are forming when you're saying the letter O.

[Sam Taggart]

Watching my reactions being like, that's a good reaction.

[George Severis]

Yeah, that was really natur. Good job. Write that down for the next.

[Meatball]

I stopped zoom therapy because I was just staring totally self. And then I was like, I need to, like, meet a person in person. He also would get mad at me because he'd be like, are you making a cocktail during this? And I was like, we're halfway through.

[Sam Taggart]

What time was your therapy?

[Meatball]

What are you gonna do? Oh, it'd be like, at 6 at night. Oh, that's normal cocktail hour.

[George Severis]

Yeah, that's cocktail hour.

[Sam Taggart]

You're doing that thing where you're mixing up your.

[Meatball]

I'd Like. Like asmr.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, exactly. I currently have a therapist, which is so interesting.

[George Severis]

Ooh, the hell.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. I didn't tell you.

[Meatball]

You didn't tell.

[Sam Taggart]

But you have a tell you how you is this like three weeks?

[Meatball]

I love therapist.

[George Severis]

You did not tell me. We talk every single day, like, pretty much nonstop.

[Meatball]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

About.

[Meatball]

This is a personal thing about business.

[Sam Taggart]

And work and deals.

[Meatball]

We talk big deals.

[Sam Taggart]

We talk deals.

[Meatball]

We do not believe over here.

[George Severis]

I know every detail about this motherfucker sex life.

[Sam Taggart]

We talk deals.

[Meatball]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

We talk sex. We talk deals.

[George Severis]

We talk sex and deal.

[Sam Taggart]

And martinis.

[George Severis]

And martinis. And then who we hate. Who we hate in the comedy scene, which is everyone. Which is everyone, by the way.

[Meatball]

Well, that's like normal comedy.

[George Severis]

Right?

[Meatball]

Of course.

[Sam Taggart]

You have to have enemies.

[George Severis]

And many, I think, because I hate. Sorry, I will let you finish.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, please.

[George Severis]

Because we hate so many people than the people we do love. We become, like, overly, like, supportive of.

[Sam Taggart]

Becomes demonic.

[George Severis]

I'm like, I would die for her.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

And it's. I be woke.

[Meatball]

Yeah. Literally.

[Sam Taggart]

But I was sort of like, I'm sort of disappointed in therapy as a premise.

[George Severis]

Totally. Which both of us always have.

[Meatball]

No, I hate it.

[George Severis]

I'm kind of like, fix it well.

[Sam Taggart]

And like, my guy is fine. He's like, whatever. But he's just sort of like, you're doing amazing.

[Meatball]

He's like, oh, drop him. Drop him. You need someone that challenges you.

[George Severis]

No, it's true. How do you get it to the flow?

[Sam Taggart]

What if no one can challenge me because I am doing amazing?

[George Severis]

Totally well. But you know what?

[Meatball]

We're hitting on something real right now.

[George Severis]

You know when you have a friend who's, like, super difficult and, like, impossible to deal with, and people are like, she needs to go. Sorry. To gender her female. She needs to go to therapy. I'm like, but what if the therapist just tells her she's right.

[Meatball]

Yeah. I had a friend that had that. Yeah. It was like, I know.

[George Severis]

Many people have gotten worse. Yes.

[Meatball]

They always get worse. And then they start using therapy speak on you.

[Sam Taggart]

That's.

[Meatball]

And you're just like, I can't deal with you right now. Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. Well, I'm just waiting. I'm not going to stop until I get him to quit. I'm going to. I want him to be like. I want him to be like, fuck. Like, you're such an amazing client that, like, it's unethical for me to continue.

[George Severis]

So if you feel comfortable talking about it more like, what kinds of things is. Are you thinking, like, Is this a problem?

[Meatball]

Are you jealous?

[George Severis]

Of what?

[Meatball]

Of his. That he has a therapist that he tells more?

[Sam Taggart]

Are you worried that I'm talking about you?

[George Severis]

Well, it certainly has crossed my mind, but no. I want to know, like, what kinds of things you're being affirmed too much on, literally. Like, is it, like, family stuff?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Okay, but I'll literally know the details here.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. I'll just sort of like, you're better than me. I'll, like, explain the situation and sort of how I handled it, and he'll sort of be like, no, that sounds like the appropriate way to handle it.

[George Severis]

But I do actually think you did handle all of that stuff appropriately. Having insight into it.

[Meatball]

Good for you. I don't know what you're talking about, but it sounds like you did great.

[George Severis]

Sam was very good at conflict resolution.

[Sam Taggart]

It's true. But I guess it was like, okay, but other than handling it, how do you not get stressed out by it? And the way that they don't have an answer to that is frustrating.

[George Severis]

Well, the answer is stay in therapy indefinitely.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

With shots. Get out of there.

[Sam Taggart]

Get out of there.

[Meatball]

Sometimes you just gotta go wild. I was doing therapy for, like, three years now. I quit. I've never been crazier, and I'm living my best life. But you, you put people through hell. No, I'm not. I'm just living life.

[Sam Taggart]

You seem like you're actually just living life. Positive. Yeah, you actually do seem like.

[Meatball]

I mind my business, but I also, like, took the tools from therapy. There's a point where you have to stop for a while and see, like, how you are in the world. Completely out, all of that. And so now, like, I will step back and be like, how did I handle that? Oh, that probably wasn't good. Should I send an apology text? And then that's when the therapy steps in and goes, girl, just do your life. Don't send an apology. Who cares?

[George Severis]

Never apologize.

[Sam Taggart]

Never apologize. As a personal therapy.

[Meatball]

Yeah. Never apologize. Do not take responsibility for anything.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

Steal.

[George Severis]

Don't you think that, like, more than 50% of apologies are actually manipulative?

[Meatball]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Like, what are we gonna do about that?

[Sam Taggart]

I have no idea. Well, there's, like, a next level that we haven't reached yet, which is what? Of, like, I don't know what it will be, but, like, of sort of recklessness that will, like, recklessness with knowing all the rules. That'll be, like, better.

[George Severis]

Oh, like a new kind of sort.

[Sam Taggart]

Of like, how, like, people. Sort of how liberal people now, like, there can Be like dirt bag left.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

Like, you can, like, use bad words or.

[George Severis]

Dark woke. Dark woke. Okay, we need dark woke. But for man. Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

Literally.

[George Severis]

That's genius. There needs to be a. What is the word I'm looking for? You know, what is it called when someone writes a book about manners? Etiquette. Etiquette, yes. There needs to be. Jesus. There needs to be an etiquette book. It's barely early, to be honest. There needs to be an etiquette book for people who are real as fuck.

[Meatball]

Oh, yeah.

[George Severis]

You know what I mean?

[Meatball]

Yeah, absolutely. Do you listen to Delta Work's podcast?

[George Severis]

I watch every single clip.

[Meatball]

He is so real.

[George Severis]

Delta Works should write this book.

[Meatball]

She needs to write the book.

[George Severis]

No, because it really, it's like, yes, you should bring a gift. Yes, you should apologize. Yes, you should say please and thank you, but in a way that isn't centering yourself and like, placing the. Like being emotionally manipulative.

[Sam Taggart]

I do not consent to needing to bring a gift.

[George Severis]

Oh, this is one of Sam's things. Do you bring a gift?

[Meatball]

What's the scenario?

[George Severis]

I would say going to a dinner party. Like, would you bring a bottle of wine?

[Sam Taggart]

Well, okay.

[Meatball]

Okay. But it's something that you, like, swing by a cv.

[George Severis]

Would you bring a gift to a wedding?

[Meatball]

Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

Would you?

[Meatball]

Or you, like, just send money?

[George Severis]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay, what if you're, like, staying with friends for one night? Do you bring something?

[Meatball]

I mean, do they stay with you sometimes? Is it like a trade off situation? Sure. Then no.

[Sam Taggart]

Love that. Okay, here's.

[George Severis]

If it's a trade off, I think if you don't bring a gift, then you treat them to dinner.

[Meatball]

Oh, yeah. I always pay for their dinner or, like, drinks if we go out.

[George Severis]

Sam.

[Meatball]

Because they're letting me.

[Sam Taggart]

I always do that as well. I have a. Okay, here's one that I thought was funny.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

So I was at a comedian's small house gathering last week, and it was sort of this type of comedian where everyone is like, everyone's cool. And I was like.

[George Severis]

I was like, Amy Schumer.

[Sam Taggart]

Amy Schumer and get out of my house. And my husband Misha was like, well, should I. Should we bring something? And I was like, we're coming from something. I actually think we shouldn't bring something because this is like the type of thing where, like, it's almost better to not to show up without anything.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

And then we show up without everything. And everyone else also didn't bring anything. And I was sort of like. I was like, it's actually kind of good. Like we would have looked like cucks if we. If we had brought something.

[George Severis]

That's so funny because my mind would go to the. I would have been like, wow. I would have been the star of the party. If I had been the one to bring a bottle of wine.

[Sam Taggart]

I think it would have felt like you were like, not. You didn't feel comfortable coming with nothing.

[George Severis]

Yeah, but then I would have made a joke about it and I would have been like, w looks like everyone else is like also.

[Sam Taggart]

Then everyone else would have drank it and you would have sat there being like, well, fuck me.

[Meatball]

One time a very similar thing happened. But I did bring a bottle. Like I. It was Celebrity House.

[George Severis]

Amy Schumer.

[Meatball]

It was Amy Schumer. Everyone was like invited over. It was for her birthday. And I was like, let me grab a bottle of tequila because I didn't know. And so I just go and buy like espalone $25 Trader Joe's. I thought, this will be fine. I get there, everyone is dressed up, like almost black tie. I'm in a T shirt and jeans. I go, oh, I brought you this. And she looked at it and kind of like put it in the garage. Like didn't even put it on the liquor table. Cuz there was like $400 bottles of whatever, like the craziest booze I've ever seen. And I was like, great, okay, cool, cool, cool. And then I just left.

[Sam Taggart]

No, that can be really hurtful.

[Meatball]

I haven't heard a word from her. She didn't thank me, so that's fine.

[George Severis]

You expect a thank you note for your espalone? I just thought Amy Schumer.

[Meatball]

From Amy Schumer. Fucking bitch. No, I. Yeah, but it was very embarrassing. So now I'm like always trying to like read the room. Yeah, it's tough cause like I've been to another pool party where she was like, please bring White Claw. And I was like, that is something I can do. And then at the end of the party, she was like, please take your White Claw with you. And she like, let us all take our own alcohol home.

[Sam Taggart]

That's nice.

[George Severis]

Now that I to take it back to your home. To me, I don't like, there's something very.

[Meatball]

See, I went crazy.

[George Severis]

There's something wasp y about that to me.

[Meatball]

She doesn't drink.

[George Severis]

Oh. She was like, I don't wanna.

[Meatball]

Or there was too much.

[George Severis]

Okay.

[Meatball]

And then I stole a bottle of tequila off the liquor table because I was like, well, she said, take it.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, she's sober, it'd be dangerous for her.

[Meatball]

And if it seems like, you know, half the bottle is just gonna go bad if you leave it out.

[George Severis]

Yeah, I've seen that episode of in. Just like it has a bottle of tequila.

[Sam Taggart]

It was gin. Throw it down the chute.

[George Severis]

Yeah, I've heard the Lily Allen song relapse. I get it, I get it.

[Meatball]

I'm scared if I relapse.

[Sam Taggart]

So Meatball and I were having an interesting realization before you got here, which is that, you know, we both, you know, Meatball was like, aren't you always at the Eagle? And I was like, totally. I'm always at the Eagle.

[Meatball]

That's what he says. But I never seen.

[Sam Taggart]

And we've never seen each other there. Somebody's lying.

[Meatball]

One time.

[Sam Taggart]

Maybe one time in all of two years.

[Meatball]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Which is.

[George Severis]

Are you going Thursday nights? I know that's when Sam likes to be.

[Meatball]

I have been on Thursday nights, but I think that we're two ships passing. Because I'll get there at like, like, I mean, they open at 4, so I'll get there like 5 to 8.

[George Severis]

Oh, you're doing cocktail hour to go.

[Meatball]

Yeah. And like.

[George Severis]

And then what's happening after 8?

[Meatball]

Well, that's when I think it starts. The sun goes.

[George Severis]

But what's happening with you after 8?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, what do you do after 8?

[Meatball]

Oh, at home with the cats.

[George Severis]

Los Angeles. You guys. You guys need a consultant. There needs to be a McKinsey consultant that comes to Los Angeles and teaches everyone what to do after 8pm What?

[Meatball]

What should I be doing?

[George Severis]

More drinks?

[Meatball]

Well, don't. See, that's the problem. I want to stay and you've seen me in a blackout.

[Sam Taggart]

That's true.

[Meatball]

It gets dark. It gets dinner. I can't go to a dinner if I've already been drinking for three hours.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, this is.

[Meatball]

I'm not the type of. Don't talk down to me. I am not the type of girl that can have like two or three drinks and be like, I'm fine. I'm like, like, you're really out. No, it's like three double tequila soda is an hour.

[Sam Taggart]

An hour?

[Meatball]

An hour. Because I need to. I need something in my mouth. If I'm not vaping. If I don't have something, like, my mouth needs tequila.

[Sam Taggart]

Sure.

[Meatball]

And I will go full blown crazy and no one will know that I'm blackout. Because my eyes don't go like totally louder.

[Sam Taggart]

I will say, it's hard to tell with.

[George Severis]

Don't you think people do know?

[Meatball]

No, because I Don't know, George, do they?

[Sam Taggart]

Because no, I have an experience. You're kind of like a. Like a. Like, you kind of blackout energy in general. Okay.

[George Severis]

We're, like, really coming for her.

[Sam Taggart]

No, this is not attack.

[Meatball]

I accept it.

[George Severis]

Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

This is just like. It's a truth.

[Meatball]

Maybe that's my body protecting itself. It's like, if you always act crazy, no one will know when you're in full blackout. Because there's been times like, I'm hosting a show and then two nights later, someone's like, oh, that was so funny when this happened. And I look him in the eye and I'm like, yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Because I'm always like, is this part of the performance of Meatball, or is this, like. Or is this, like, a feeling?

[Meatball]

Thank you for calling it a performance. Thank you so much.

[George Severis]

I feel like you have. There's something controlling even now, talking to you. I'm like, there are times when you're like, I'm now gonna. Like, I'm now gonna do it.

[Meatball]

She's reading. I'm just kidding. Uh. Oh. I came here and I am being attacked.

[George Severis]

I'm not. I'm literally doing the opposite. I'm saying you have a very. The performance is very controlled. It doesn't seem chaotic and messy.

[Meatball]

So in New York, you're saying, well, also, New York is open until 4am.

[George Severis]

Well, but less and less. You'd be surprised. No, that's true.

[Sam Taggart]

I went to a bar in Bushwick and it was closing at 2. I said, what happened to the city?

[George Severis]

I actually would like to call. I would like to name some names, please. I was recently at the Nine Orchard Hotel with two dear friends of mine and their hotel bar closed at 1am Disgusting.

[Meatball]

Okay.

[George Severis]

And they turned on the lights, and they also had this. The thing they did with lights. They turned them on and then every two minutes, they would get brighter. Which is the most passive. Like. And this happened like, there were six levels of brightness. They turned them on, and then they got brighter and brighter and brighter until they were, like, blinding and you had to leave. I'm like, we're in the Lower east side.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

That's crazy.

[George Severis]

Chloe Sevigny has walked these streets.

[Meatball]

That's where I used to live. We were out until 4 or 5 in the morning, I'm telling you. And then paint. Did you ever go to Painkillers?

[George Severis]

No.

[Meatball]

It was like a tiki bar that was, like, down.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God. That sounds amazing.

[Meatball]

It was amazing. You could only. They would always be like, you can only have one of each Cocktail because they were so strong. But they would stay open until 5 or 6 in the morning.

[Sam Taggart]

Wow.

[Meatball]

And we would just stay out drinking. But they never turn the lights on. But recently, I was just in P town and I was in a dark room at a bar and they turned the lights on. They did. No. At 1am, but it was a flicker at first and I was like, well, okay, that's like a 30 minute warning. Yeah, I'm gonna get to work. And then it was like on for a while and then I like, like saw who I was blowing and then like kind of looked around the room and I was like, huh? And they were like closing up shop. And I was like, just come in.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

And clap and say, we're closing. Yeah, I don't want to see what I'm up to. I don't need to see it in the light.

[Sam Taggart]

That's rude.

[George Severis]

That is really rude. And I would say almost like non consensual. Like you signed up for a very particular sexual experience and it is being altered without your consent.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. Red light.

[Meatball]

I don't want to look over and see Layla McQueen fucking some guy's face. Oh, God.

[George Severis]

All Love to Layla McQueen.

[Meatball]

All love, but all love. She knows what she did.

[George Severis]

She does. And so everyone in that room. Because it was so bright.

[Meatball]

It was so bright and it was. Yeah, it was like just like multiple. Multiple fluorescent lights.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

It wasn't just like one light bulb coming on. It was just like full brightness. Like this.

[George Severis]

No, it was a podcast recording. Maximize video.

[Meatball]

Hey, better help.

[Sam Taggart]

I. Speaking of a controlled performance, one time we were at a pool party together, and the way that you were holding court was really so blackout.

[George Severis]

I got a text about it afterwards. I was like, we have to have meatball on the pod.

[Sam Taggart]

I was like, I've never seen anything like this.

[Meatball]

I had come from.

[Sam Taggart]

Were you actually drunk?

[Meatball]

Yeah, I was drunk.

[Sam Taggart]

See, it's so impossible to tell because we.

[Meatball]

This is great. This is great. Hey, guys. I like to drink. I was drunk the night before because I think it was like fat slut was the night before or something. And then.

[George Severis]

What's Fat Slut?

[Meatball]

Oh, it's my party that I throw at Precinct.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God, I love that.

[Meatball]

But also, we've had sold out shows in Japan, Austin, New York.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Meatball]

Boston. I'm gonna name other places because I've been place.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay, okay.

[George Severis]

From Boston to Japan.

[Meatball]

Yeah, Japan was crazy. Now talk about a place. The bars don't even open until midnight and they stay open until 5am and it's all because the train schedules. Because the trains close at midnight and they open back up at 4. So people just party all night and then go home.

[Sam Taggart]

That's nice.

[Meatball]

But yeah, I had. Was hungover. And then I went out to get drinks with my friend who I'd brought beforehand. And then I was like, I'm gonna be skinny in front of him. So I ordered a salad and then like three martinis. And then I was like, I gotta wake up. And I was like, we got to go. We got to go to this pool party. We got to wake up. So I had like two espresso martinis and then showed up and then was like, what's up, guys? Who's ready to party?

[Sam Taggart]

That is so interesting. The way that I was stone cold sober that whole event. I know that hurt. And honestly, I was like, you were like, holding court and doing such a good job. And there was like a point where you tried to be like, almost like, throw to me. Be like, he knows. And like, I was supposed to then.

[George Severis]

Like, rip, you cracked under the pressure.

[Sam Taggart]

I was literally like. Like, I have nothing to say.

[Meatball]

Well, it's not hard to entertain, like, fat gay bears.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, they were eating out of the palm of your hand.

[George Severis]

And what, this was your pool party?

[Sam Taggart]

No, this was at someone else.

[Meatball]

Someone else's house.

[George Severis]

This was. And it was a bear party. House edition.

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[Meatball]

The bears were in the pool displacing the water, and then all the skinny people were like, up on a picnic bench.

[George Severis]

Oh, got it.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. So it was interesting.

[Meatball]

They were afraid to go.

[George Severis]

Really?

[Meatball]

I didn't realize that until I was in the pool.

[Sam Taggart]

Thin.

[George Severis]

Well, you subvert the bear, not bear.

[Meatball]

You want to be over where the bears are. That's why you're at the Eagle every Thursday night. How sad does it get as the night goes on? Thursdays are fun.

[Sam Taggart]

Thursday is the best night of the Eagle. Quote me on this, everyone. Thursday, if you get there at 9:30, by 10pm you will see everyone you've ever met positive. And they're all like, mixy mingly and sort of being like, oh, it's a fun squad. And then by midnight, it gets. Everyone gets a little loopy and you're sort of like, I'm kind of scared now. But not in a bad way.

[George Severis]

Well, it's like, I'm scared now. Have you been to the Exley in Brooklyn? It's after.

[Meatball]

It's new.

[George Severis]

It's new. Open during the pandemic. But all of the little. There's Something that happens after like 11pm where people get exley eyes.

[Sam Taggart]

Yes.

[Meatball]

I've been heard.

[George Severis]

And that's when they are. They turn into. It's 28 days later fat Slut edition.

[Meatball]

Because we walked from Metro over there.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

[Meatball]

It was. We were like in that back booth. And there's something about just being in that dark little like.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

Trailer and just drinking. Those drinks are very strong.

[George Severis]

They are very strong. But it's like everyone. It's like tables of, you know, little friend groups and then there is a few solo performers that just are literally like zombified, going from table to table, being like, have you guys seen Begonia?

[Meatball]

They really want to talk.

[Sam Taggart]

They really want to talk. You just have to beg. They don't come to you.

[Meatball]

Okay, well, that's kind of the vibe. Where was I? Sunday at the Eagle.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

Because I was there at like 4 or 5 o' clock because I had just come from Chili's. I don't know if you know this about Chili's, but they have Wicked Martini margaritas now.

[George Severis]

Like Wicked branded. Yes, Wicked.

[Meatball]

This season of branding isn't about Cynthia and Ariana crying and holding hands. It's about where can we stick our label.

[George Severis]

It's about product placement. Yes, yes. Because of course, the first press drawer was so tasteful and minimalist and now they're like, you know what? Like, like, let's go buff girls a break.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm like, I fear for them because I was watching Project Runway and you.

[George Severis]

Know, they was there a Wicked challenge?

[Sam Taggart]

There was a Wicked challenge and they like show up on a, you know, pre filmed thing. I'm like, they must be in a studio for hours on end doing pre filmed things. Like they do Drag Race, they do Project Runway.

[Meatball]

They do it like, here's the thing is these are two theater kids. That's true. This is what they want.

[George Severis]

That's true.

[Meatball]

They every day they wake up more excited. I bet they're not complaining about anything thing.

[George Severis]

The brand sponsorships, I think have gotten to a level where I wouldn't be surprised if it was announced that the city of Cleveland is now Wicked. Like, I honestly think the next step is they choose a full American city. Not New York or la, but like a sort of second tier American city. And they're like, Denver is now Wicked.

[Sam Taggart]

It's. We're calling it Wicked Colorado.

[George Severis]

Wicked Colorado.

[Meatball]

I just got an email from Airbnb being like, would you like to meet Cynthia Erivo at the Wicked Experience? And it's like a Three hour thing where you. I think you just go into the Angeles Forest and they've built like a wicked hut.

[George Severis]

You haven't even replied. They're like, you're on the list and we're sending you. Uber is like a green.

[Meatball]

I would go and I would be walking in with my Chili's margaritas. One pink, one green. They're disgusting, by the way. Don't drink them.

[Sam Taggart]

I. Well, I can't believe you ordered one.

[George Severis]

I'm a shocked.

[Meatball]

I drove to Encino to get them. I made a group of people come with me. Everyone was like, what's the point? And they were all trying to order lunch. And I was like, I'm drinking these. This is my lunch. And they wouldn't let me order two at a time. So I made my friends order one so I could drink them together.

[George Severis]

Chili's wouldn't let you order a Glinda and a nod.

[Meatball]

One drink at a time.

[George Severis]

Wow. You really have to choose between Glinda.

[Meatball]

And elk where they're like, just order as many as you can.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, please. Take, take, take, take, take. I mean, I think it's. It is an. It is inspired branding to be like. Like normally would be like now. Froot Loops are wicked themed, but to be like, no, this adult. We're like marketing to adults as if they are children.

[George Severis]

No, they're literally like the London Review of Books is pink and green for the month of October.

[Sam Taggart]

It is so crazy.

[George Severis]

It's going. They've done all the like, kids stuff and now they're going up to like the Department of Defense is Galinda.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah. This. When you pay your taxes, do you want them to be green or pink?

[Meatball]

Agreed.

[George Severis]

Should we do our first segment?

[Sam Taggart]

We should do our first segment.

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[Sam Taggart]

So our first segment is called Straight Shooters and in this segment we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions to gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. It's basically this thing or this other thing. Sorry, it's basically this thing or this other thing.

[George Severis]

You don't give him notes.

[Sam Taggart]

And the only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or we will.

[Meatball]

Okay, get so so.

[George Severis]

Yes.

[Sam Taggart]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Okay. To infinity and beyond or losing your virginity to James Bond.

[Meatball]

Losing my virginity to James Bond.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay, I think you should leave or so you think you can dance?

[Meatball]

I think you should leave.

[George Severis]

Cards against humanity or barbs against SZA.

[Meatball]

And Jay Z. Oh, cards against humanity and I hate that game.

[Sam Taggart]

Lump sum and residuals or shampoo and conditioner?

[Meatball]

Lump sum and residual.

[George Severis]

Viva la revolution Or Diva. I'm Manila Luzon. Diva.

[Meatball]

I'm Manila Luzon.

[Sam Taggart]

J. Lo. J Law.

[Meatball]

Jpeg Oh, J. Oh, jpeg. Love a picture. Send them all.

[Sam Taggart]

Love a picture, love a picture Pictures.

[Meatball]

Love those, love them. Can't get enough of them.

[George Severis]

Rage against the Machine. Panic at the Disco Or Elf on the Shelf.

[Meatball]

Elf on the Shelf. Love that little faggot.

[Sam Taggart]

Two broke girls or two woke queens?

[Meatball]

Duo Queen.

[George Severis]

Wow, it's crazy that you decided not to do too.

[Sam Taggart]

I know. This was a.

[Meatball]

There was a time when James Bond was it. Hopefully not Sean Connery.

[Sam Taggart]

Why not?

[George Severis]

Wait, you don't like Sean Connery? Do you know who?

[Meatball]

Just seems like he would smell like.

[George Severis]

Which James Bond of in history would you really? Can I tell you something?

[Meatball]

What?

[George Severis]

I think Daniel Craig is like.

[Meatball]

Oh, fuck, I forgot about him.

[George Severis]

I think he's like so good in bed that it would like, actually ruin your life for the rest of time.

[Meatball]

Oh, wait.

[George Severis]

Can you imagine him and Rachel Weisz having sex?

[Sam Taggart]

Sorry, it's final.

[George Severis]

You get pierced and I get Daniel. Sorry, I.

[Meatball]

Him coming out of the water in that little Speedo.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh my God.

[George Severis]

And it's only getting hotter as he ages.

[Meatball]

Oh, yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, it's.

[Podcast Advertiser]

It's.

[Sam Taggart]

It's really beautiful. And the rumor that, like, they're both gay and that they just like. It's like a marriage of convenience.

[Meatball]

Really.

[Sam Taggart]

I have to believe it. Like, if I don't believe, that's like my believing in God. Like, if I don't believe in that, I'd have no purpose.

[Meatball]

Like, Jeremy Renner is gay, Right? That's the rumor. Right. Uh. Oh, hey, we're not here to out people. That's crazy that you said that, George.

[Sam Taggart]

Is there any straight actor that doesn't have gay rumors? Jacob.

[George Severis]

Vin Diesel. What if Vin Diesel is.

[Meatball]

You think he is gay room, doesn't he? I'm pretty sure.

[Sam Taggart]

No, I think so too.

[Meatball]

Yeah, I think that guy might be gay.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. Legit.

[George Severis]

Oh, well, that's fun. Yeah.

[Meatball]

Yeah. Have you seen the videos of him singing alone to.

[George Severis]

Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Okay, fine. Then who am I thinking of? I don't know. Sylvester Stallone? I just. I'm thinking of like a big action.

[Meatball]

That guy is straight.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, he's straight.

[Meatball]

Fine.

[George Severis]

Okay, well, the thing with Rachel Vice is just, you know, sometimes. And I say this with a lot of love to the lesbian community, sometimes when an actress plays a lesbian on a film, lesbians forget that it's not real life. And so. And if that happens twice or three times, potentially, they're like oh, that's proof.

[Sam Taggart]

To be fair. Gay guys do that too. Like, gay guys. I think a lot of gay guys still think, like, Darren Criss is gay.

[George Severis]

Totally, totally. But I think. I think men being. No. And in fact, honestly, can I switch up?

[Sam Taggart]

He's not gay.

[Meatball]

He's not gay.

[George Severis]

He is the straight. He is straighter than Sylvester Stallone.

[Meatball]

Yeah, sure.

[George Severis]

Yeah. Because he, like, is in the gayest possible communities and is still like, I love my wife. I love gay guys. We'll kiss as a bit. Like, he has no problems with his own sexuality, but he simply cannot help that he's straight.

[Meatball]

Who's straighter? Darren Criss? Matthew Morrison? Cause he'd be. He's.

[George Severis]

No, no, no. I know what.

[Meatball]

He's flirting in the community.

[Sam Taggart]

What's he up to?

[Meatball]

What do you mean? He's got a solo show right now, and it's wonderful. If you go to look up clips on TikTok, it'll change your mind.

[George Severis]

I'm sure you can get [e-mail].

[Meatball]

They were free.

[George Severis]

Do you remember when Beyonce did that performance where she was, like, going to catch my breath and then did that to Matthew Morrison?

[Meatball]

Oh, yeah.

[George Severis]

That was really iconic. And he was like, yeah, that was probably.

[Meatball]

I would have tried to kiss her. I would, like.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, you got to try.

[George Severis]

Maybe he is gay.

[Meatball]

We solved it.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, we rate our guests on a scale of 0 to 1000 doves.

[George Severis]

You don't want to be rated. You're opting out of the rating.

[Meatball]

I mean, it's your show. I'm sorry.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, it's important to get feedback, I guess.

[George Severis]

Now, that was a manipulative apology. It's your show. I'm sorry. Looking at the plant, you need Delta Works Book of etiquette.

[Meatball]

Oh, she scares me. She scares me.

[George Severis]

I know. So what's the tea? Do you know her?

[Meatball]

Yeah, we work at the same podcast studio. My podcast, Sloppy Seconds with Big Dipper and Meatballs on the Mom Network with Race Chaser with Willowman, Alaska and Delta Works.

[George Severis]

And thank you, thank you, thank you for. Because if you're not gonna promote yourself, how the hell are you gonna promote anyone else?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, we're certainly not.

[George Severis]

We're starting with a. Forgot.

[Meatball]

I'll kill myself. I will kill yourself. Kill myself right here.

[George Severis]

Kill yourself on Vertical Video.

[Meatball]

Well, then they can edit it. It's got to be live.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay, everyone, come to Precinct this Saturday.

[Meatball]

I'm gonna kill myself.

[George Severis]

I'm gonna kill myself a fat slut.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm gonna kill myself a fat slut sold out.

[George Severis]

Manila Luzon is performing Never.

[Meatball]

What?

[George Severis]

So your score out of a thousand doves is.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm gonna go 915 dubs.

[George Severis]

I agree.

[Meatball]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Sam Taggart]

I felt like that was a really amazing performance. Confident, fun, even. Put a lot of personality in those answers.

[Meatball]

I almost hit a girl on the way here too.

[George Severis]

That's true.

[Sam Taggart]

And I was almost witnessing you.

[Meatball]

I was rolling down my window to scream faggot. At you out the window. And this girl walks out of the building, doesn't look left, just starts to walk into the street. And I was like, oh.

[Sam Taggart]

So this building we're in sometimes has, like, casting calls. Like, I've been in this building before when everyone is 6 foot 3 and 10 pounds.

[Meatball]

But why is it that they like a model? Cause I used to live in New York and I would be, like, in casting rooms and stuff. The models come in and they've never looked scarier. Like, they look like they were at the Eagle until two o' clock in the morning in the face. But then their body is like, no, they just look like.

[George Severis]

I know you're not. You have to be, like, sculpted out.

[Meatball]

Yeah, but it's like you have to.

[George Severis]

Look like an alien. And then the camera.

[Meatball]

Camera.

[George Severis]

It's like how the camera adds 10 pounds. It also, like, does what?

[Sam Taggart]

Add.

[George Severis]

It. You have to look like even crazier in real life. And then the camera makes you look slightly more normal.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

If you're, like, alien looking. Like, if you're Anya Taylor Joy, I feel like if you met her in real life, you'd probably be like, ah.

[Meatball]

But then sometimes it's the opposite where you, like, see an actor and you're like, they're gorgeous. And you see them in person and you're like, they're magnificent. The camera doesn't even pick up their beauty.

[Sam Taggart]

No, that's true.

[George Severis]

I had that experience with Olivia Wilde.

[Sam Taggart]

I had experience with Ryan Gosling.

[George Severis]

Really? Even post.

[Sam Taggart]

Sorry, no. This was like, 10 years ago.

[Meatball]

Almost Post what?

[George Severis]

His face looks insane.

[Meatball]

I just saw a picture. Yeah. What are they? Why are they all plumping up? I'm sorry?

[George Severis]

You know, the two of them get together, they say, we have 16 procedures today. We'll split them. They say, let's get childcare because it's going to be two full days.

[Meatball]

Mommy and daddy are leaving and they're never coming back.

[Sam Taggart]

Because as a man in Hollywood, Hollywood is one of the great luxuries, is that you're, like, sort of allowed to almost age.

[George Severis]

Especially Ryan Gosling, who could have aged into sort of like a rugged.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, yeah. He could be in Yellowstone right now.

[George Severis]

Or it's like when you think about, like, Ethan Hawke or Kevin Bacon, like, they age into, like, just, like, you know, kind of like slightly gray hair, rugged, like flannel, living on a farm, holding a goat.

[Meatball]

It's like Timothy Oliphant.

[George Severis]

Oh, my God.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

He did it perfect. I mean, there's, of course, Botox and a little filler, but he's not like.

[George Severis]

Well, of course he's. He's not a farmer.

[Meatball]

He doesn't have leathery skin, but he's not, like, plumping up his cheeks like, the chipmunk cheeks is crazy.

[Sam Taggart]

It's crazy. It's not appealing. I don't know who's doing.

[George Severis]

We're gonna look back on the filler era.

[Meatball]

They should just be doing, like, the. I mean, I have some friends that, like, just get the facelift at 40.

[George Severis]

Well, that's what you have to do.

[Meatball]

And then you, like, age back down to 50, and then you do it again at 60. But he looks like he did filler and, like, a bunch of crazy shit.

[George Severis]

He has a lot of yes men. A lot of yes men.

[Sam Taggart]

A lot of yes men. He doesn't have a good therapist. His therapist is like, ryan, you are diva. If you want to get that face plumping.

[Meatball]

Well, he gets too hired. He goes to the line for therapy.

[George Severis]

He goes to the line for therapy. He says it's cheap. And I get to get my haircut.

[Meatball]

Yeah. And I get to look at my new face the whole time I'm doing it.

[Sam Taggart]

Wow.

[George Severis]

He's running his lines for Barbie.

[Meatball]

He was. I hated him in that movie.

[George Severis]

Oh, well, I'll say this. Ken is not 40 years old. Okay, sorry. Ken is not 40 years old.

[Meatball]

It should have all been, like.

[George Severis]

It should have been like, Hollywood. Yeah. Why am I looking at great. He did great work. He's a great actor, a titan in our industry. Why is he playing Ken? Ken should be 27, and it should be like, a new twink they found that kind of looks like Ken. Like, honestly, kind of maybe, like, it could be a discovery of, like, someone who did porn. And now this is their film debut.

[Meatball]

Barbie would never have that with them. They're not Wicked. They're not putting their name on porn stars.

[Sam Taggart]

A porn star in Wicked.

[Meatball]

Well, on the original Wicked Barbies, the website on the back was wicked.com, which is actually a porn. Not wickedmovie.com.

[Sam Taggart]

Got it.

[George Severis]

Got it.

[Meatball]

So they had to rip all the dolls off the shelves so if you have one of those, it's worth a lot of money.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, I had no idea.

[Meatball]

That's really cool.

[Sam Taggart]

Should we get into our topic?

[Meatball]

Do I like Wicked? Nah. Yeah, what was the question?

[George Severis]

There is no such thing as liking or not liking it. We're in it. It's sort of like this podcast recording is part of Wicked.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, it's like, do you like America? Like, it's like, that's not really the question. Like, you're just. You exist within it and you can choose how you want to deal with that.

[George Severis]

Yeah, it's like when people are like, during Thanksgiving, they're like, thanksgiving actually has a really violent history. Like. No, I know, but where's the turkey?

[Meatball]

We're doing turkey poo.

[Sam Taggart]

Can we have some drinks and, like, talk?

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah. The game is on, so how about you shut the hell up?

[Sam Taggart]

Well, there needs to be. We need to. We need to have like a. Like a. We're like, complete. Like, we understand the history complete. Because sometimes I'm like. We keep, like, rehashing.

[Meatball]

What? You're so right. Slavery. We get it. Complete.

[George Severis]

No, no, no.

[Meatball]

That's what you're saying to me.

[George Severis]

We're just saying, make textbooks less woke.

[Sam Taggart]

It reminds me of, like, honestly, Millennial speak of being like, obviously what I'm saying isn't perfect. Obviously. And it's like, okay, if it's so obvious, maybe you don't have to say it.

[George Severis]

Right. Exactly. Yeah. I love when straight guys learn. It's like a straight guy will learn about the phrase women and femmes or something, and then you'll have just a straight guy being like, these are my favorite bands that are mostly women and non binary folks. You're like, okay, you can just say paramore.

[Sam Taggart]

Let's get into our topic. Okay, so, Meatball, what is your straight topic today and what is straight about it?

[Meatball]

Motorcycle culture.

[Sam Taggart]

Motorcycle culture. As someone that spends a lot of time in the Eagle, I find that to be sort of interesting.

[Meatball]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

And as someone who has seen the COVID of Lady Gaga's Born this Way, I also find it to be interesting.

[Meatball]

Ooh. Okay, well, let's get into it. I have a motorcycle. You do? Yes. There's a very famous clip of me being called trans while riding it at the opening of the Pride Parade.

[Sam Taggart]

I've seen this clip.

[George Severis]

In the years past, we've known this.

[Sam Taggart]

Contingent as dykes on bikes. But a few years ago, you changed that, didn't you?

[Dykes on Bikes Representative]

Yes, because when we started, our rights started being taken away from us. We needed to start really fighting for our rights. So I felt we shouldn't separate the men from the women anymore. And actually, it's not for me to decide this day who is a man and a woman. So I switched the name from Dykes on Bikes to Motorcycle Contingent for Equality. We still are Dykes on Bikes, but we still are men. We still are women. We're still trans. We are everything under this umbrella title. But this year also, we want to give focus to our trans community because they are really being targeted. So I want to give focus to our trans members because they really are heart and soul.

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[George Severis]

Can you actually explain the clip?

[Sam Taggart]

Can you explain the clip?

[Meatball]

I'm on ABC News and the leader of Dykes on Bike says, we're here to support our trans community, and then gestures over at me and I'm waving and I'm like, but I'm not trans. And that's the clip. And it's really embarrassing.

[George Severis]

But you're just in drag.

[Meatball]

I'm in full drag on my motorcycle to open the parade. And she meant to say drag queen.

[George Severis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Meatball]

And all day, while we were planning it, she was saying drag queen. And then there was a lot of trans motorcyclists behind me. But I was leading it because it was like when drag queens were under the most attack, like four or five years ago.

[George Severis]

Now everything's fine.

[Meatball]

Yeah. No, drag queens are great. I mean, should we ban all drag queens? Absolutely. I'm tired of putting on wigs. I could barely wear a heel. I have to get a size 15. And women.

[George Severis]

You're lobbying Congress for this. You're saying no more wigs.

[Meatball]

I know a lot of the girls are in there fighting for it. I'm saying let's kill brunch. Let's end an a 12 o' clock brunch. Brunch is at 2:30. That's what time they should start at. Sorry, I'm not.

[George Severis]

I completely agree. No, I agree.

[Meatball]

That's a New York brunch. It's 2 o' clock LA. They're like 11 in the morning and.

[George Severis]

They'Ve already done a hike and gone to the gym.

[Sam Taggart]

It's messed up.

[Meatball]

I'm still drunk from the night before.

[Sam Taggart]

I finished drinking at 8pm I'm swerving.

[Meatball]

The motorcycle all the way here year. Sorry.

[George Severis]

Dashing the motorcycle into.

[Sam Taggart]

Okay, so you own a motorcycle.

[Meatball]

I own a motorcycle and I'm trying to fix it up right now. I've, like, changed the brakes on it and done all this stuff. What the hell I take. I'm so mad.

[Sam Taggart]

This is so different than what I could have ever imagined. Keep going.

[George Severis]

Okay.

[Meatball]

But I love fixing things. And, like, it's fun. Like, I. I have a sewing machine and I know how to fix it too, but I was like, this is just a bigger sewing machine, except for it could kill you. So I, like, I hate taking it to the shop because I feel like I have to be, like, overly masculine when I'm in there.

[George Severis]

And.

[Meatball]

And then when I had bought my first motorcycle, it was like me and my ex were together and I'd always be like, well, my boyfriend was riding it and he said he heard this and it would be like, on their face. And all I really want is like, YouTube tutorials from a queen. All I'm getting is like, guys being like, so you take it off here and you do this. And I want like, hey, sister, if you don't put your chain on right, you're gonna fucking die, bitch. Or like, don't put oil in the. Whatever. It's gonna end up messier than a Chipotle bowl on a Tuesday night. Like, I just want gay shit.

[Sam Taggart]

I fully see what you mean. You being like, hey, divas. So, like, get ready with me while I fix my motorcycle.

[Meatball]

And he's like, using the grease or, like, show me how to do it without it being, like, so overly masculine. And I know there are gay motorcycle leads here, of course, in the Eagle, for example.

[George Severis]

And there's. Sorry, but dykes on bikes, you're friends even.

[Meatball]

So love the dykes. Love that kind of thing. But even those, it's like, it feels so masculine.

[George Severis]

Totally.

[Meatball]

I want queen.

[George Severis]

It's less about gay straight. It's more about masc and femme. Like, you're wanting like, queenie, but I.

[Meatball]

Think it's the straight culture that they're trying to, like, squeeze themselves into instead of being like, we're gay. So what if I want to put a 30 inch ponytail on my helmet when I whip it when I'm riding it? Like, I want it to be so faggy. And I just can't find that because I've ridden my motorcycle in full drag. It's been wonderful. But the looks are like, it's, it's. They're like, what are we? What's that? There's so many things to add up. Hairy body, lady face, lady face, wig, motorcycle. Like, I'm just. It shouldn't be so confusing. I want to see like, twinks.

[George Severis]

Totally twink some bikes. Yeah, yeah. Wearing like, like the rainbow smirnoff tank. Not Smirnoff. Absolute. The rainbow absolute tank.

[Meatball]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Okay, so I like the end and Dykes on bikes. You know, we obviously love dykes on bikes. To me, my first pride ever, I was. I found myself at the Dykes on Bikes march and I was the only one not a dyke and not on a bike. It was kind of one of the most iconic experiences of my life. So we love dykes on bikes. But I do do love the idea of just like twinks.

[Meatball]

Yes.

[George Severis]

Harley's.

[Meatball]

I've never seen it. Yeah.

[George Severis]

His name is Tori.

[Meatball]

I mean, you're supposed to be in full leather for your protection, but who cares?

[George Severis]

No, there's no leather. It's. It's literally like American Apparel mesh. American Apparel cut off shorts and like a little rainbow armband that says Chromatica Tour.

[Meatball]

This came to me because I was like, I had taken my bike out, I was testing the brakes and I was like, well, I'll swing by the Eagle because I know it's like biker day or whatever. And I showed up in my little short shorts on my motorcycle and like a shirt. They're all looking at me like I was crazy because they were in like full leather chaps and like all this stuff.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

To go right around in Los Angeles in the summer.

[George Severis]

Totally.

[Sam Taggart]

So this is what does confuse me so, like practically, are you supposed to wear leather when you ride a bike or is that just decor?

[Meatball]

You're supposed to like, keep all of your. I mean, it's. You don't. You can wear whatever you want, baby.

[Sam Taggart]

You can wear whatever you want.

[Meatball]

You can wear whatever you want. It's in case of an accident. You could like, if you fall off the bike, you can get road rash and stuff by skidding on the cement. So it's more like. But that's. Maybe that's thinking in the future. I'm not looking to have an accident, so maybe I'm gonna dress like a slut and ride my bike.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, I'm also like, well, aren't we dealing with like, bigger issues? If I get into a motorcycle accident, like, aren't my limbs falling off? I don't really.

[George Severis]

If they're like, yeah, but you're looking cunt.

[Meatball]

You're like, take you to the hospital. And they're like, rush him in, sister. Look at her go. All the gay nurses know.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, just like the chaps won't stop it from happening. I'm like, well, you know, I mean.

[Meatball]

Most accidents, I think on a motorcycle aren't like lethal. I think, oh, that's nice. You're mostly just kind of riding around a neighborhood and somewhere. You heard it here first.

[George Severis]

Motorcycle is pretty safe.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Hey.

[Meatball]

Pretty safe.

[Sam Taggart]

Hey. Bare minimum, non lethal.

[George Severis]

It's fascinating. Okay. I'm in motorcycles versus cars. You're. I. Obviously, motorcycles are straight in the sense that there's something very like, lone Rider, lone wolf about it.

[Sam Taggart]

Like, there's no sense of community.

[George Severis]

Yeah. No sense of community.

[Meatball]

Put some on the back.

[George Severis]

Exactly. Well, that's the thing. Either. Either you have a. Like, a hot woman behind you, and then that's, like, super cool because she's, like, holding your strong torso and you're, like, going to, you know, the big. The big event. Or.

[Sam Taggart]

You'Re thinking of that episode of Sex in the City.

[George Severis]

I think of the episode of Sex in the City. So basically, there's one way to look at it where, like, a motorcycle is, like, lone wolf, straight guy, and a car is like dumb cuck. But there's also the other way. Car is family values. It is like having the kids in the back. It's having a baby seat. And motorcycle is like, you're on your own. You're rejecting the family structure. You're also. There's something about how, like, decked out it can be that's very gay. Like, you're adding your little personal to it.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

You know, a helmet on, it's anti surveillance because people can't see your face.

[Meatball]

Look at you go.

[George Severis]

You take it off, you have it here. Suddenly you're Drew Barrymore and Charlie's Angels.

[Sam Taggart]

That's huge.

[Meatball]

That's huge.

[George Severis]

So it's like. It is what you make of it. Like, a motorcycle is kind of a blank slate, and you can make it gay and you can make it straight.

[Sam Taggart]

But I think what you're describing is, like, the myth of the motorcycle rather than what actually happens on a motorcycle. Yeah.

[George Severis]

Going from A to B because, like.

[Sam Taggart]

The. My. A motorcycle is so lgbtq, of course. But then, like, in practice, it's not. It's not at all.

[George Severis]

It's not. Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

And I wish, like, that myth, I. All I've ever wanted is to take a helmet off, whip my hair around. But that you take the helmet off, you look bad.

[Meatball]

Yeah. Your hair is a mess.

[Sam Taggart]

You look horrible. Yeah.

[George Severis]

You have, like.

[Meatball]

So then the other thing is, they'll put a bandana on so that it protects their hair, but then you're walking around with a bandana on your head, and now who are you serving? Are you flagging? What color should I wear? It's too Many options.

[Sam Taggart]

It's too many options.

[Meatball]

And also, one time, a little twink did ask to get on the back of my bike, and I literally, literally said, I'm not gay. So maybe this is a personal.

[Sam Taggart]

Interesting. Wow. Interesting. So you. You know, maybe it's because you have so many spaces to be comfortable being gay in your life that you say, not here, not on the bike.

[Meatball]

Not here, not on the bike. Not in the bike shop. When.

[Sam Taggart]

When my ass is on this seat. I'm.

[Meatball]

I'm a man. Don't look at my thong. I'm a dude up here.

[Sam Taggart]

Wow. And you can't. You can't sit behind me unless you are my little brother.

[George Severis]

Brother.

[Meatball]

Or you have a gun. Little brother. Get out of here with that.

[George Severis]

Wow.

[Meatball]

What are you up to? Are you.

[George Severis]

Yeah. What's going on?

[Meatball]

Oh, my God.

[George Severis]

What are you talking about in therapy?

[Sam Taggart]

Nothing.

[Meatball]

I just think that motorcycles could be gayer, and it's not that hard.

[George Severis]

Okay, so how.

[Sam Taggart]

How.

[Meatball]

Rainbow. Rainbow, period.

[George Severis]

Pretty.

[Meatball]

Literally.

[Sam Taggart]

This is actually an interesting point, but.

[Meatball]

I think that there's a lot of people. It's like, you know, jeep culture. They, like, hand out ducks to each other, and it's like this whole thing, and it doesn't seem weird, and men can do it to men. Men do it to men all the time. Yeah, but no, not like that. I'm just saying. Giving the ducks anywhere.

[George Severis]

So.

[Meatball]

But I think on motorcycle culture, it's more about, like, you're saying, being, like, a lone wolf and, like, yes. Stuck in your ways and, like, you and your motorcycle gang all wear matching vests, but that's about it. You don't, like, give each other trinkets.

[George Severis]

That's true. Motorcycle gang does give it a sense of community. And it is true that when you see, like, a big, like a. A sort of. What is the word? Flotilla of motorcycles.

[Meatball]

Flotilla. What do you call that?

[Sam Taggart]

I don't know.

[George Severis]

A school of motorcycles.

[Sam Taggart]

A school of motorcycles. A herd.

[George Severis]

You know, you're like, okay, wow, you guys really did find each other. Maybe what you're craving and sorry to psychoanalyze you, is like. No, no, no, no, no. You have.

[Sam Taggart]

You have plenty of that. That's what is.

[George Severis]

Sold out.

[Meatball]

Hey, sorry. It is every third Friday pre sample.

[George Severis]

From Japan to Boston Fats. Let us slow that.

[Meatball]

Well, we'll say Japan. Okay, that's fine. Yeah. It's an island country.

[George Severis]

So I think what you're pointing to is, like, so much of.

[Meatball]

It's a really good time, too. So what happens is it's a Drag show. And then at the end, there's what we call a sexy food eating competition where all the food is encased in jello and it doesn't have to be eaten, but you do have to fuck it. I did one in solo food. Yeah.

[George Severis]

So what kind of food am I for?

[Meatball]

So chocolate cake is a big favorite. That was. My mom was like, don't get chocolate. Give vanilla next time because it looks like poop. Yeah, we do it. We do, like, three pounds of shrimp.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh.

[Meatball]

Cooked tail on. And then we've.

[George Severis]

Thank you for clarifying.

[Meatball]

Yeah, well, I just want them to, like, have something. Cocktail sauce. Yeah, it's. It's in the top layer of the jello.

[George Severis]

Blood is so much more tasteful than poop.

[Meatball]

And then. Well, someone did put a shrimp up their butt.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, no.

[George Severis]

Well, I'm not really that impressed. It's not big.

[Meatball]

Okay.

[Sam Taggart]

I will say I am impressed because it's kind of soft.

[Meatball]

It is soft.

[George Severis]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Meatball]

And then someone did do a hot dog up their butt, and then when they shot it out at the audience, a little chili came out with it, which was crazy.

[Sam Taggart]

That's so gross.

[Meatball]

Disgusting.

[George Severis]

I'm going to say disgusting.

[Sam Taggart]

That's the nasty thing.

[George Severis]

I'm ringing the nasty alarm.

[Meatball]

Sorry. What were you saying about motorcycle, basically?

[George Severis]

Motorcycle. So much of game motorcycle culture is, like, ironically adopting straight motorcycle culture.

[Meatball]

Yes. That's what I hate.

[George Severis]

Right. So. And I. And I'm now getting, like, what your sort of desire is, which is you want homegrown gay motorcycle culture. Like, rather than taking these signifiers, like references from, you know, Harley Davidson, rugged guys, and being like, what if we did this but with bears? What if we did this but with leather daddies, which of course we love. What if we, like, came up with our own own set of visual signifiers for motorcycles? Like, what if it was just like. Go ahead.

[Sam Taggart]

I think it starts with media. I think we need a movie franchise.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

That is like gay motorcyclists. And they're like pop stars.

[George Severis]

You know what we need?

[Meatball]

Okay, wait, this is what they did.

[George Severis]

We need, like, we need the spirit of roller derby, but for motorcycles.

[Sam Taggart]

Yes.

[George Severis]

You know how roller derby is just like, they really did. Did the thing.

[Sam Taggart]

They did the thing.

[George Severis]

Like, they created a new thing. They created a new vibe. And it's like.

[Meatball]

And it's just girls beating each other.

[George Severis]

It's just girls beating each other up. But they're all. All like. They have, like, funny names and they have little patches on their vests and they're like half lesbians and half straight, but also lesbians. And. And it's like a locker room.

[Meatball]

It's none of our business.

[Sam Taggart]

None of our business.

[George Severis]

And I'm not going to be there. So I do think we need that for the motorcycles.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

Yeah. So I'm thinking movie franchise game. I mean, honestly, we could just take the Charlie's Angels thing and make it three twings. Or one twink, one bear. One.

[George Severis]

I don't know, one twink, one bear and one like gay nerd. Like one gay nerd with like. Oh yeah, one Sam.

[Meatball]

One Sam. Right in the middle, smart guy.

[Sam Taggart]

Just right in the middle. Okay, I think that sounds really beautiful. And I can. I think the original soundtrack will be amazing. Charlie XX is actually doing it.

[George Severis]

I heard that.

[Meatball]

Oh, I heard about that.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. It's actually huge.

[Meatball]

Cuz she's going from Wuthering Heights to this.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. Cuz Wuthering Heights is like her, like she's going alts. So. So expectations are low.

[George Severis]

Well, you, you know that the trailer is gonna be vroom vroom.

[Meatball]

It might be too gay. Wait, hold on. So it goes vroom vroom, but it's like one of those things where they take the song and make it spooky.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, it's a children's choir.

[George Severis]

Children's choir singing vroom vroom. And you see the twink and the bear getting into a big accident on their motorcycles.

[Sam Taggart]

Let's ride.

[Meatball]

And then mustache smart guy comes in weaving through traffic. Ooh, real fun. Fast.

[Sam Taggart]

Not. And doesn't that maybe I'm trying to think of like what sort of violence they commit.

[George Severis]

Yeah, cuz they have to commit. Have to commit violence. Obviously that's the ultimate sign of empowerment. So we're after like, is it like twink bear, Sam. What violence do they commit in the big movie?

[Sam Taggart]

Like what's their weapon? Like if they're like motor a motorcycle?

[Meatball]

Well, they're like ninja turtles. They each have their own weapon.

[Sam Taggart]

Exactly. I want a whip.

[George Severis]

Okay, you have a whip.

[Meatball]

Oh, and you're always in a cat suit. And it's so crazy. I don't know if that's good or bad.

[George Severis]

The twink has a laptop and is coding.

[Meatball]

He's doing cyberbullying.

[George Severis]

Cyber attacks and cyberbullying. And then the bear.

[Meatball]

Whoa, that's crazy.

[George Severis]

The bear has a gun.

[Sam Taggart]

Yes, the bear has a gun.

[Meatball]

I have a gun.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. A gun and a cowboy hat.

[Meatball]

No.

[Sam Taggart]

Then we're going back.

[George Severis]

You have a gun tattoo. Would you say you're pro gun violence.

[Meatball]

Not the violence, but definitely pro. Like, I don't know, having one.

[George Severis]

Totally.

[Meatball]

I want a gun so bad. We barely over this.

[Sam Taggart]

Remind me.

[Meatball]

I want a gun so bad.

[George Severis]

Just as an accessory.

[Meatball]

Yeah, I don't think I'd buy the bullet.

[George Severis]

Okay, good.

[Meatball]

That's actually, like, cunty guns. Like you. And, like, there's one that's pink and glittery. Okay. So I work over in North Hollywood, so it's right next to Burbank, and that's where all the gun stores are. So I. I get the itch every now and then.

[Sam Taggart]

A gun experience.

[Meatball]

Just get empanadas next door. Really calm myself down.

[George Severis]

It's sort of a gun for your digestion.

[Meatball]

So the bear has a gun. And I think the end is they all just shoot off the. Of a building. So it's like very. Like, you don't know if they live or die. And they. Their bikes have parachutes on them, and they all hold hands on the way down.

[George Severis]

I mean, bike with a parachute. Wait, bike with a parachute. That's, like genuinely, like, unique. Original imagery. Like, that's on the poster. Like, people. You know what I mean?

[Meatball]

Like, did it.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah, I think it's been done.

[Meatball]

I think it's been done. And he actually did the stunt, which I think is so crazy. That man.

[George Severis]

Okay, so you're just literally, like, ripping off Tom Cruise.

[Sam Taggart]

We're plagiarizing.

[George Severis]

Oh, cool.

[Sam Taggart]

Just a little.

[Meatball]

Wow.

[Sam Taggart]

But no, art is original.

[Meatball]

I thought you were on my side for a minute.

[George Severis]

What if it's the three motorcycles holding each other's hands and then they're in a hot air balloon on the motorcycle? I'm trying to find unique imagery.

[Meatball]

Here's what happens. The big stunt is that they actually have to go into orbit and save Katy Perry. So they're, like, taking one of those balloons right up to the edge, and then they ride their motorcycles into space.

[George Severis]

So it's a really good idea. On motorcycles in space. And then. Okay. And then they. Then it's Katy Perry's comeback.

[Sam Taggart]

That would be nice, actually.

[George Severis]

Talk about science fiction.

[Meatball]

And then the song switches to firework.

[George Severis]

To firework. Fireworks. Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Have you met Katy Perry?

[George Severis]

Yeah. What's she like?

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. Wait, you were in the music video?

[Meatball]

I was in one of her music videos for a split second. And then I met her at some, like, celebrity birthday party. What was she like in the music video? I think that was when she was in her dark place.

[George Severis]

Oh, so. And she's out of that years, so.

[Meatball]

Well, it was no, Remember, like, short blonde hair? It was Swiss. Swish, swish, swish, swish. Yeah.

[George Severis]

Actually, that's a great song, to be honest.

[Sam Taggart]

No, it's a great song.

[NordicTrack Advertiser]

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[Meatball]

Yeah. It was so fun to be a part of. If you squint really hard, you can see me in the background as a cheerleader. Got it. One portion of it. And she was, like, really friendly. But in between takes, I think she was doing, like, small animal therapy. And they would, like, wrap her in a blanket and she would lay down and they would just put a dog on her chest.

[George Severis]

No.

[Meatball]

And she would sit there until they were like, okay, Katie, we need you. And then someone would come and take the dog, and she'd stand up like a robot. It was kind of weird. But then she did come over and say hi to all of us, and she was really sweet. And then at the birthday party I saw her at. I mean, I'm not even supposed to talk about, but I think she was really drunk.

[George Severis]

Oh, but that's. I mean, that's more relatable than doing small dog therapy in the middle of your show.

[Sam Taggart]

Shoot.

[Meatball]

I've seen celebrities do weirder things.

[George Severis]

What's the weirdest thing you've seen a celebrity do? Yeah, you don't have to say who.

[Sam Taggart]

Or we can bleep the name.

[George Severis]

Yeah. Or. Or if you don't want to. If you're too chicken.

[Sam Taggart]

If you're scared.

[Meatball]

At one event, there was a celebrity whose husband literally would not let her speak to people. And that was weird to me.

[George Severis]

That is weird.

[Meatball]

And then she, like, took her shoes off and he yelled at her, and that was like, literally, like, okay. But no one else.

[George Severis]

Who.

[Meatball]

There's.

[George Severis]

And he's. He's famous, too. Or he's.

[Sam Taggart]

Well, were her feet stank? Nasty.

[Meatball]

They were beautiful.

[Sam Taggart]

Oh, that's worse.

[George Severis]

Damn. That's.

[Meatball]

But it was really strange, and I was like, oh, I guess everything about them is kind of true.

[Sam Taggart]

Fuck. You'll have to tell us.

[George Severis]

Yeah, you'll tell us later. Was it Amy Schumer?

[Meatball]

It was Amy Schumer and her husband.

[George Severis]

That's really tough. Tall chef.

[Sam Taggart]

Let's do our final segment.

[George Severis]

Yeah. No, we have to. You have to. You literally have to leave in four minutes.

[Meatball]

Who cares? They can wait. It's a big dinner. Dipper and some gay porn star.

[George Severis]

I thought it was Bruce Valance.

[Meatball]

Second. That's a 2 o'.

[Sam Taggart]

Clock.

[George Severis]

But if the first one goes over, then you have Bruce Valanch.

[Meatball]

I won't. I will not let it go over.

[Sam Taggart]

Can I say something.

[Meatball]

He's a gay porn star. What is he gonna talk about his butthole?

[Podcast Advertiser]

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[Meatball]

I've seen his work. I'm not impressed.

[Sam Taggart]

Was this a dipper booking?

[Meatball]

Yes. Who do you think would book a gay porn star? I don't know. You guys have, like, accessible with sex. He throws his sex party. Have you been?

[Sam Taggart]

No, I didn't.

[George Severis]

What's it like?

[Sam Taggart]

Get that invite.

[Meatball]

It's the way you said no makes me feel like you did go, no, I am.

[Sam Taggart]

I haven't been. I haven't been. He throws it.

[Meatball]

He throws a sex party called drain your nut.

[George Severis]

That's fun. Very literal.

[Sam Taggart]

It's a bit literal.

[Meatball]

You know what you're gonna.

[George Severis]

What is more literal? Drain your nut or fat slut?

[Meatball]

Do you think that's, like. It could really be anything.

[George Severis]

That's true.

[Meatball]

I mean, the host meat is the fat slut. So, you know you're getting at least.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Meatball]

Or.

[George Severis]

Yeah. It's like, okay, the host. Or it's like the suggestion for how to present yourself. Or it's like the crowd. Yeah.

[Meatball]

It could be the girls do come slutty.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Drain your nut is kind of like, you time to drain your nut in the nut.

[Sam Taggart]

This is sometimes when sex talk gets, like, very literal, it grosses me out. Like, maybe not literal or like. Like, it can become unsexy and, like, removed from a body. Like, drain your nut is kind of like that. And when. Do you remember when people were saying, this is so gross. Sorry to everybody, everyone in the recording.

[Meatball]

Yeah, your listeners are too smart for this.

[Sam Taggart]

Do you remember when people were saying, like, cummies?

[Meatball]

Oh, I hated it.

[George Severis]

I do not. But that's cutesy. That's different than literal cummies is.

[Sam Taggart]

But it was like, I got to go out, get my cummies.

[Meatball]

Ew, that is disgusting. Like a message from someone where they're being so forward like that, where they're like, come in me. And you're just like, whatever happened to hi? Yeah.

[George Severis]

And you're also like. You're like, yeah, I know. That's where it's. We know. Like, that's kind of. That's the undercurrent of all of this.

[Meatball]

Let's be honest.

[Sam Taggart]

It's like Thanksgiving. We don't need to say.

[George Severis]

Exactly. We don't need to say.

[Meatball]

We don't need to bring it up. We know.

[Sam Taggart]

We know.

[Meatball]

We're going to get turkey.

[Sam Taggart]

We're going to commit some acts.

[George Severis]

Yeah.

[Sam Taggart]

Some unspeakable acts.

[George Severis]

Some unspeakable acts. And let's. Let's have it stay that way.

[Sam Taggart]

Yeah. You can't speak about the unspeakable acts.

[George Severis]

Can't speak about the unspeakable acts.

[Sam Taggart]

So, no, I haven't been invited to Dipper's sex party.

[Meatball]

I'll make sure you get on the list.

[Sam Taggart]

Thank you.

[Meatball]

If you're ever in town. He does one in New York, too.

[Sam Taggart]

Is it at his house?

[George Severis]

Perfect.

[Meatball]

No, it's, like, in a warehouse.

[Sam Taggart]

So you. You say that he is the one that brings all the sex people on because you like porn stars on? With some, yeah.

[Meatball]

But all the. Anytime we have a porn star on, it's always being like, these guys are so mid. Who cares? And it's like, oh, no.

[George Severis]

Okay. What's your dream guest?

[Meatball]

Oprah Winfrey.

[George Severis]

What would you say to her?

[Meatball]

I'd be like, do I get a car?

[George Severis]

Yeah. Because you know what I would say to her? I would say, so what's the deal with all these books you're promoting lately? Because they are all evil.

[Sam Taggart]

Here's what I'd say. I'd say, Oprah, I have a question that everyone's been asking. Top or bottom?

[Meatball]

When you do your harvest videos, are you really pulling those plants?

[George Severis]

Right?

[Sam Taggart]

Right.

[Meatball]

She's like, this is my harvest. And I was like, your hands are so clean.

[George Severis]

No, completely. They're manicured to the gods. And your nails match your glasses.

[Meatball]

Where's Stedman? You know, she lives on a property with, like, five houses, and he lives in his own house. Like, she doesn't see him anymore.

[Sam Taggart]

I mean, it's not right.

[George Severis]

He's the luckiest man in America.

[Meatball]

I know. He really won.

[George Severis]

It's so crazy. And I'm honestly so happy for him, genuinely.

[Meatball]

Yeah.

[George Severis]

Well, our thoughts go out to Oprah.

[Sam Taggart]

Our thoughts go out to Oprah and Stedman and Gail and everyone in the family.

[George Severis]

And one day, Oprah will read a book that isn't by a murderous white mom who discovered a form of therapy that is also being funded by the deep state.

[Meatball]

Is she promoting those kind of books?

[George Severis]

It's crazy. Like, it really is.

[Meatball]

I know she's not. Okay. Cause she's, like, always hanging out with Jeff Bezos. And that's like.

[George Severis]

Well, that's part of it, too. Yeah. It's like. And then Kris Jenner is, like, the other node in this kind of map now.

[Meatball]

She just had a party at Jeff Bezos's house, which is insane.

[George Severis]

She's, like, part of the oligarchy. Chris Jenner. She's, like, as much a part of it as, you know, Mark Zuckerberg.

[Sam Taggart]

That's tough.

[Meatball]

It's tough stuff. Anyway, let's do our final segment. Okay, I'm like.

[Sam Taggart]

I'm like enough.

[George Severis]

Okay.

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[Sam Taggart]

Our final segment.

[Meatball]

Want us to have fun?

[George Severis]

That's crazy.

[Sam Taggart]

I do.

[Meatball]

It's like his therapist, he wanted to keep me a secret from you.

[Sam Taggart]

Sometimes I'm like, you know that thing where you're like, when. When I say, like, let's wrap it up, then it's impossible for me to get back into it.

[George Severis]

No, I know.

[Meatball]

I'm sorry. Hey, let's wrap it up, Sam.

[Sam Taggart]

And it's like, it's. I'm. I wish I could bounce back, but it's like in my mind, I'm already.

[George Severis]

Segment is called Cummies.

[Sam Taggart]

And we share. What? You get your cummies this week?

[Podcast Advertiser]

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[George Severis]

What? Get what Got your cummies this week?

[Meatball]

Oh, that's.

[Sam Taggart]

That's the most disgusting thing.

[George Severis]

I can't ever hear it again.

[Sam Taggart]

One time on stage, I tried to be like, you guys know how gay guys are saying cummies now? And everyone was like, no. They were like, we don't know about this.

[Meatball]

And I was like, they weren't a gay audience?

[Sam Taggart]

No, it was not a gay audience. And I. And everyone, they were mad at me. They were like, why did you make us learn about cummins?

[George Severis]

Straight people have, like, accepted gay people, and they don't like it when you're. There are things they haven't accepted yet.

[Meatball]

Okay, well, so here's the worst thing, is the one time I was opening for Nicole Byer at the improv and I decided to, like. I don't know, I felt like I. Some people in the audience.

[Sam Taggart]

She has a ton of gay fans.

[Meatball]

I know, but I didn't realize it just wasn't everyone. And so I started talking about cruising and they didn't know. And so then I had to explain Cruising. And then I had to explain the story about how one time I was cruising and I was wearing like a. I was in drag and I was like, in a dirty baby diaper. Cause the guy cruised me from the. From fubar. I was coming out of a gig and he was like, get in the car. And I was like, oh, wow. And so I had to tell that story. And it was like. It was like that. It was like Cummings to a straight audience.

[Sam Taggart]

That's tough.

[Meatball]

Layers.

[George Severis]

Don't you feel powerful to, like, be there and just like, alienate a room full of straight people? You're like, that's right. I have a more interesting life than you do.

[Meatball]

Well, then I went crazy and I said the R word. No, really.

[Sam Taggart]

You gotta win a match, and then.

[George Severis]

You actually won the match.

[Meatball]

Yeah. Then they were like, yeah, let's use it again.

[Sam Taggart]

I love this one.

[Meatball]

It was just awful. It was so bad.

[Sam Taggart]

That's tough.

[Meatball]

So what's this last segment we've been talking about? What are these springs?

[George Severis]

Those are Webby awards.

[Sam Taggart]

Don't worry, they're not ours.

[George Severis]

They're not ours. We never won.

[Sam Taggart]

So our final segment is called Shout Outs. And in this segment, we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio. Shout out. And shout out anything that we are enjoying. People, places, things, ideas. Imagine it's 2001. You're at TRL shouting out to your squad back home, but about anything you like. I can go, oh, please.

[George Severis]

What's up, freaks and losers? I want to give a shout out to ordering room service at the hotel. This is something that at some point I stopped doing. I don't know why. I guess because room service is often disgusting. And I like the idea of actually, like, leaving and going to a place and meeting friends and going to a normal restaurant, but there is nothing more glamorous than having your little robe on. Ordering room service, the number does not count. Cash does not count. You can order up to $100 and it actually doesn't really count. You put it on the room and you can even tip like 50%. You're like, oh, of course. I'm basically here for a big conference. So order room service, have your little robe on, eat it in your hotel, then be completely disgusting and watch like a true crime documentary or something. Thank me later, ladies. You're gonna love it.

[Sam Taggart]

Woo. Okay. What's up, freaks, losers and perverts around the globe? I want to give a shout out to the specific intention intelligentsia that is a block and a half away from our recording studio in Hollywood, California. Whenever we do a recording, I go to this intelligentsia. I get here 15 minutes early and I walk on over there, I get a coffee, and everyone there, I don't know, I feel like they've never had the same employee twice, but they always have some LGBTQ 23 year old who is doing something that is not making coffee. And I'm like, they make them do that too. I say, this barista also has some water wash the windows. Now I've seen everything. This intelligentsia that's so terrible, it's literally crazy.

[Meatball]

That should not be their job.

[Sam Taggart]

When the barista today put down the wet wipes and walked over to the counter to say, do you know what you want I said, this is crazy.

[Meatball]

I would say, I want you to wash your hands before you touch my coffee.

[Sam Taggart]

I said, this is. I feel so. I feel like a father to you. And. And I love coming here and seeing some of the most insane people you can find in the world sitting in the booths and drinking a coffee and screaming and being upset about who knows what. It makes me feel like LA is a real city and that one day, you know, we're all gonna be a crazy person screaming in intelligentsia.

[George Severis]

Oh, 100% XOXO SAM.

[Meatball]

What up, bitches? Hey. I wanna give a shout out to Airbnb host that don't charge extra to use their pool. You really saved my p. I had a wonderful time. I thought it was going to be an extra 80 to $100 to heat up that pool. And you sent me a message that said, go ahead. I don't care. I heated that pool up to 90 degrees. It was crazy. Your gas bill's going to be nuts. But I love you for it, Jen. You did your big one on that one. And definitely we left all the towels clean, too. We left it cleaner than you left it. I think you might have mice, Jen. Check the garage. Love you, baby. Mucho, mucho.

[Sam Taggart]

That is incredible. That's incredible.

[George Severis]

Sloppy Seconds every third Friday. Third Friday.

[Meatball]

And then, you know.

[George Severis]

Sloppy Seconds is not every third Friday.

[Meatball]

Oh, no. Sloppy Seconds is twice a week. Tuesday and Fridays. Fat slot every third Friday at Precinct. Global Global entry, baby. I was high for my global interview.

[George Severis]

Anything else you want to promote? Global jihad. Fat slut. Guns.

[Meatball]

Get a gun.

[George Severis]

Get a gun, girl.

[Meatball]

Things are getting crazy. Get a gun, Jen.

[George Severis]

Get a. Jen.

[Meatball]

Get a gun for those mice, Jen.

[George Severis]

Get a gun.

[Sam Taggart]

Get a gun for the mice. Bye. Okay, bye. Podcast ends now.

[George Severis]

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[Sam Taggart]

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[George Severis]

Now get back to work.

[Sam Taggart]

Stradiolab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money players network and iHeart podcasts.

[George Severis]

Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

[Sam Taggart]

Executive produced by Will Ferrell Hansani and Olivia Aguilar.

[George Severis]

Co produced by Bay Wang.

[Sam Taggart]

Edited and engineered by Adam Avalos.

[George Severis]

Artwork by Michael Fails and Matt Grubb.

[Sam Taggart]

Theme music by Ben Kling.

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[George Severis]

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