Episode 33: Follow The Blood Released on April 28, 2025
In this poignant episode of Strangers on a Bench, Tom Rosenthal delves deep into the life of an anonymous guest, exploring themes of personal transformation, resilience, and self-discovery. Through an intimate 37-minute conversation, the guest shares pivotal moments that have shaped their journey, offering listeners a profound insight into overcoming adversity and embracing one's true self.
1. Favorite Days and the Concept of a "Rot Day"
The conversation begins with a light-hearted discussion about the guest's favorite day of the week.
B: "Probably Friday." [00:45]
The guest elaborates on why Friday holds special significance, highlighting the freedom it brings after a demanding workweek. This leads to an exploration of the concept of a "rot day"—a day dedicated to complete relaxation and mental unwinding.
B: "Bundled up on the sofa. Duvet on or heated blanket, favorite snacks." [01:19]
They describe a perfect rot day as a time to disconnect from responsibilities and indulge in carefree leisure, emphasizing the importance of mental health and self-care.
2. Embracing Change and Leaving a Dissatisfying Job
Transitioning to more serious topics, the guest recounts their habit of making frequent life changes, with the most significant being the spontaneous decision to quit their job.
B: "I just didn't go in." [02:33]
Without warning, the guest chose to leave a job that conflicted with their moral values, demonstrating courage and a commitment to personal integrity. This abrupt departure was motivated by ethical concerns, particularly regarding the treatment of clients.
B: "I didn't like how it was like, say the clients are being treated in a certain sense..." [03:04]
This pivotal moment underscores the guest's willingness to prioritize their beliefs over security, setting the stage for subsequent personal growth.
3. A Shift Towards Nature and Foraging
Post-job departure, the guest finds solace in nature, joining foraging workshops and developing a deeper connection with the environment.
B: "I've joined a foraging workshop not long ago." [05:03]
They share an amusing anecdote about discovering edible plants right outside their doorstep, highlighting newfound joys and the therapeutic benefits of engaging with the natural world.
B: "No need for garlic anymore. I've literally got it on my front door." [05:30]
The discussion seamlessly weaves in historical contexts, touching upon the roles of women as herbalists and the intertwining of witchcraft, feminism, and nature—a testament to the guest's evolving interests and values.
4. Childhood Trauma and the Fear of Hospitals
One of the most heart-wrenching parts of the conversation revolves around a traumatic childhood memory that left a lasting impact.
B: "There's a lot to do with my job that I didn't morally like..." [03:04]
B: "I followed the blood drips to then find where my dad was." [16:18]
At just four years old, the guest witnessed their father suffer a fatal accident involving a kung fu sword, leading to a profound fear of hospitals. This memory not only illustrates early trauma but also hints at the guest's resilience in coping with such experiences.
5. Battling Endometriosis and Its Life-Altering Effects
The guest bravely opens up about their struggle with endometriosis, a condition that has significantly impacted their daily life and relationships.
B: "For me, it's like searing pain. It's like not being able to sit down because the pain is strong..." [17:53]
Describing the relentless pain and its consequences, the guest discusses how endometriosis has forced them to adapt their lifestyle, fostering a deeper understanding of their own body and advocating for women's health.
B: "I've tried to learn about my body more, which is where I think I've got more in tune with nature." [19:19]
They reflect on the strength required to manage such a condition independently, especially after a recent breakup, highlighting themes of self-reliance and personal growth.
6. Artistic Expression Through Painting
As a means of self-expression, the guest shares their passion for painting, focusing on themes that intertwine femininity and nature.
B: "I do a lot of naked women and a lot of fruit." [23:43]
Engaging in a playful dialogue about the perceived "sexiness" of various fruits, the conversation reveals the guest's creative process and the symbolic representations in their art.
B: "There is so much I have to do with how you should live." [19:33]
7. Childhood Lies and Sibling Dynamics
Reflecting on sibling relationships, the guest recounts an early memory of lying to protect their brother after causing an accident.
B: "I have to throw myself down as well. So when my mum comes, I go, no, I fell and I pushed him with me." [25:57]
This anecdote not only sheds light on the complexities of childhood but also underscores the guest's protective instincts and the challenges of navigating sibling dynamics.
8. Navigating Relationships and Personal Boundaries
The guest delves into their past romantic relationship with a musician, discussing the difficulties in balancing personal aspirations with a partner's dreams.
B: "He literally told me I was second best to music." [31:05]
Through this reflection, the guest emphasizes the importance of self-prioritization and the necessity of setting boundaries to maintain personal well-being.
B: "I'm living just for myself right now." [30:46]
9. Future Aspirations and Spiritual Retreats
Looking ahead, the guest shares their ambition to establish a spiritual retreat, blending their interests in nature, witchcraft, and holistic well-being.
B: "Start our own spiritual retreat." [35:20]
The discussion illustrates a hopeful vision for the future, aimed at fostering community and personal growth through shared spiritual practices.
B: "There's a big change coming and it's coming." [37:56]
Closing Reflections and Farewell Anthems
As the conversation winds down, the guest and host attempt to sing the Welsh national anthem, adding a touch of humor and camaraderie to the episode's conclusion.
B: "Good, that's pretty good." [37:10]
The episode closes on a light note, celebrating the courage it takes to share such deep personal experiences while maintaining a sense of levity.
Key Takeaways:
- Embracing change can lead to profound personal growth.
- Connecting with nature and creative outlets can be therapeutic.
- Overcoming trauma and chronic illness requires resilience and self-awareness.
- Establishing personal boundaries is crucial for mental and emotional well-being.
- Future aspirations rooted in community and spirituality can provide meaningful direction.
Notable Quotes:
- "Probably Friday." [00:45]
- "Do you know what I mean? Saturday I can just rot if I want to." [01:08]
- "I just had enough. I literally finished work that day and I was supposed to go in the next day and I just didn't go in." [02:24]
- "This is like a superhuman quality about women's bodies." [21:40]
- "I've never done this since I was in primary school." [36:25]
- "There's a big change coming and it's coming." [37:56]
This episode of Strangers on a Bench offers a raw and honest exploration of one individual's path to self-discovery, resilience, and the pursuit of authenticity. Through shared experiences and reflective dialogue, listeners are reminded of the strength found in embracing one's true self and the transformative power of personal challenges.