EPISODE 9: Deli Meets

Summary

Podcast Summary: Strangers on a Bench – EPISODE 9: Deli Meets

Introduction

In Episode 9 of "Strangers on a Bench," host Tom Rosenthal engages in a heartfelt and introspective conversation with a guest named George. Over the course of their interaction, George shares profound personal experiences, including the loss of loved ones, reflections on family life, and his journey through life's challenges and joys. This episode, released on November 11, 2024, delves deep into themes of grief, resilience, and the human spirit, all set against the serene backdrop of London's parks.

Meeting on the Bench

The episode begins with Tom approaching George on a park bench, initiating a casual yet meaningful dialogue. George agrees to participate, setting the stage for an authentic and intimate conversation.

Favorite Day and Personal Reflections

• Favorite Day of the Week: George shares that his favorite day is Sunday because it represents a day of relaxation and peace. At [00:54], he explains, "Relaxing day," emphasizing the tranquility Sundays bring him.

• Visiting the Cemetery: On Sundays, George visits his partner and his late daughter at the cemetery. He poignantly states at [01:28], "I still miss them as much as the day they went," highlighting his enduring grief and the enduring bond he feels with his loved ones.

Character Insights and Family Memories

• Character of Loved Ones: George describes his partner, Andy, as a loud, outgoing, and generous person from Glasgow, contrasting with his own more reserved nature. At [03:07], George remarks, "He was full of confidence, you know, it was the opposite of me."

• Traveling Memories: Reflecting on happier times, George fondly recalls traveling with Andy during their younger years. He shares, "We used to go traveling a lot," at [03:50], illustrating the strong bond and joyful experiences they shared.

Grandparenthood and Family Dynamics

• Becoming a Grandparent: George discusses his role as a grandparent to Chantal's daughter, who is now 22. He expresses contentment in his current grandparenting role, stating at [06:00], "I'm a grandparent," and elaborates on the differences in personalities within his family.

• Supporting Family During Illness: George highlights his dedication to his family, particularly during Chantal's illness, mentioning at [06:14], "I had to have Gerry since she was, like, two months old."

Life’s Purpose and Daily Routine

• What Keeps Him Going: George attributes his perseverance to simply enjoying life. At [07:28], he states, "What keeps me going? I think just life, isn't it."

• Staying Active: Despite a recent cold, George maintains his fitness through gym visits and long walks. He mentions, "I like walking," at [07:58], underscoring the importance of physical activity in his daily routine.

Cultural Background and Childhood Memories

• Growing Up in France: George shares his multicultural background, having grown up in Rouen, France, in an Algerian-Irish household. At [08:13], he reflects, "We lived in the Algerian quarter. My dad is Algerian and my mother was Irish."

• Sunday Rituals: A vivid childhood memory involves his father buying a live chicken every Sunday to prepare for family meals. George explains at [09:07], "My dad would go down to the market and he would buy a whole chicken, but live and all the food, bring it back and make goose."

Views on Aging and Personal Growth

• Perspective on Age: George expresses a pragmatic view on aging, emphasizing mental growth despite physical changes. At [12:13], he states, "You've grown wiser, but you're still the same, if that makes any sense."

• Embracing Youthfulness: When posed with a hypothetical question about having a younger body, George contemplates the idea of taking up running, revealing his latent desire for new experiences. He muses at [13:20], "If I had been more than a day, I'd like to take up running."

Interactions with Music and Tom Odell

• Musical Interests: George discusses his interest in music, particularly mentioning listening to Pink Floyd and his occasional loud music sessions, which led to neighborly complaints. At [18:13], he shares, "Sometimes I do the ski one as well."

• Encounter with Tom Odell: A significant highlight of the conversation is George’s interaction with Tom Odell, the acclaimed singer-songwriter. George recounts meeting Tom at a café where he was quietly listening to Tom's music. At [17:07], Tom responds warmly, saying, "Nice to meet you, too. And to hear a little bit about your life."

Reflections on Marriage and Motherhood

• Early Marriage at 16: George opens up about his early marriage at 16, describing the challenges and regrets associated with marrying young. At [20:03], he reflects, "Hard," and later admits, "I have two children, so now I have a daughter."

• Running Away from the Wedding: In a candid moment, George shares his experience of running away from his wedding reception, illustrating the complexity of his emotions during that time. He recounts at [23:16], "I ran away back home."

Philosophical Insights and Concluding Thoughts

• Helplessness in the Face of Global Issues: George expresses frustration over global conflicts, particularly referencing Palestine, and the helplessness felt when witnessing suffering without the means to intervene. At [10:23], he states, "It's frustrating because you can't do nothing about it."

• Value of Kindness: Emphasizing the importance of being good to one another, George concludes with a simple yet profound message at [11:37], "All we can do is be good to each other."

Notable Quotes

• On Grief:

  • George: "I still miss them as much as the day they went." [01:45]

• On Age:

  • George: "You've grown wiser, but you're still the same." [12:13]

• On Family:

  • George: "Give them lots of love. Be there." [19:13]

• On Helplessness:

  • George: "It's frustrating because you can't do nothing about it." [10:23]

Conclusion

Episode 9 of "Strangers on a Bench" offers listeners an intimate glimpse into George's life, marked by love, loss, resilience, and enduring connections. Through his candid storytelling and reflective insights, George embodies the essence of what it means to navigate the complexities of life with grace and honesty. Tom Rosenthal skillfully facilitates this deep conversation, allowing George's experiences to resonate and inspire. Whether dealing with personal grief or contemplating the broader strokes of life's journey, this episode serves as a poignant reminder of the shared human experience.

Final Thoughts from Tom Odell

As the conversation draws to a close, Tom Odell, who makes a brief appearance, adds a touching note:

• Tom Odell: "Next time that you see me, make sure you say hi. In the delicate sun? Where I buy my red wine? And my lemons? And my limes?" [26:14]

This exchange beautifully encapsulates the serendipitous nature of connections made on park benches, leaving listeners with a sense of warmth and the possibility of future encounters.

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This summary aims to encapsulate the emotional depth and richness of Episode 9: Deli Meets, providing an engaging and comprehensive overview for both regular listeners and those new to the series.

Transcript

[Host]

Hello. Sorry to bother you. Can I ask you a slightly odd question? I'm making a podcast called Strangers on a Bench, where essentially I talk to people I don't know on benches for 10 or 15 minutes. Are you up for that? Do you want to give it a go? First question, nice and easy. 1. Gentle, gentle in question.

[George]

Go for it, then.

[Host]

What's your favourite day of the week?

[George]

Sunday.

[Host]

Why?

[George]

Relaxing day.

[Host]

Just pure peace.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Tell me what you do on Sunday to relax.

[George]

Well, I just get up and don't rush everything. Nowadays, on a Sunday. Sometimes later on in the day, lunchtime, I go to the cemetery.

[Host]

Lovely. Go to the cemetery over lunchtime. Who'd you go and see, or you?

[George]

Just my partner and my daughter who's dead.

[Host]

Your daughter's dead as well?

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Oh, God. Sorry about that. How. I mean, I just can't imagine. I mean. I mean, how's it. How's your. How's it. I mean, how have you been since. I mean, how have you dealt with it?

[George]

I don't know. I mean, you just. How do you deal with it? You hurt. You hurt quite a lot. And then as time passes, the pain eases. You don't think so at the time, but I would say, in all honesty, I still miss them as much as the day they went. Because, you know, sometimes you meet somebody in life or you have a daughter in life and, you know, you only meet that one person.

[Host]

So you visit. You visit the cemetery. Do you take anything with you when you go?

[George]

Flowers.

[Host]

And do you talk to them or plants?

[George]

Kind of. But I know they can't hear me, but I do because I miss them. Yeah. But, you know, it's not like I spend loads of time there. When I'm there, I just go there because I need to go there.

[Host]

Are they next to each other in the.

[George]

They're both together, yeah. He went first Andy and then Chantal was only two years ago, so. Yeah.

[Host]

Well, if it's not too painful. What were they both like as characters? What were they like?

[George]

He was loud.

[Host]

Too loud?

[George]

Sometimes, yeah. He had a beard just like you. He was scot Scottish, from Glasgow. Very generous with his time. Even though he was so loud and he was so outgoing, he was full of confidence, you know, it was the opposite of me. Which works, doesn't it?

[Host]

Works, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's the one.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

So if you can think of a memory with your partner that remains so strongly, or like a day maybe, or a time, what do you go back to?

[George]

Traveling. When we was younger, we used to Go traveling a lot, either in the car or abroad or we travel all over the country and, I mean, there's lots of things. Andy was that kind of person, you know. Yeah.

[Host]

What do you miss most about him?

[George]

Maybe his loudness.

[Host]

How do you replace that loudness? You just don't, I guess.

[George]

No, you don't? No, no. And I'm the type of person that believes at some stage in your life, you know, it's different when you're really young, but we met each other when we were in our 30s, and I think once you've met somebody, you don't. It doesn't happen again, you know, even if you're still relatively young when they go. But it doesn't happen again because you can't replace a person, really.

[Host]

You can't. What was Chantal like?

[George]

Chantal was a really lovely person. She was. She was absolutely. But she. I don't know if I want to say about Chantal, really, which is what I'm talking about. She just lost her way somewhere along the line, you know, the way people do. Then she ended up at the end being ill and she got cancer. But, yeah, I mean, I have two other children, so now I have a daughter. Her daughter, yeah.

[Host]

So her daughter.

[George]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

So Chantal's daughter.

[George]

Yeah. She's 22 now. Her daughter.

[Host]

Oh, wow. So you're a grandparent?

[George]

I'm a grandparent.

[Host]

Four to four.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Fantastic. What's it like being a grandmother?

[George]

It's all right now.

[Host]

Oh, really? What was it at the start, when.

[George]

When they were young? It was hard work.

[Host]

Were you. Did. Did your children depend on you to.

[George]

Yes. I mean, with Chantal, she was ill, so I had to have. Jerry, so I've had Gerry since she was, like, two months old.

[Host]

Yeah. So do you have a particular closeness to.

[George]

Yeah, well, she's still living with me now. You know, she's. Gerry is so easygoing, such a nice nature, you know, if I have to tell her off, I mean, not now she's an adult. It would be maybe twice a year.

[Host]

Yeah.

[George]

That's the kind of person she is. Where a mother was a complete reverse. Yeah. Full of spirit, full of contradictions, but she's just so the opposite. Jerry, it's lovely.

[Host]

What's your life like now? What keeps you. Keeps you going?

[George]

What keeps me going? I think just life, isn't it? You got to like life, haven't you?

[Host]

You do. What makes you like life usually?

[George]

You know. I mean, the last couple of weeks, I've not been very well with this Cold and cough. But usually I keep fit.

[Host]

How do you like to keep fit?

[George]

Well, sometimes I go to the gym or sometimes I live in Nissan. So I walk from Islington through here.

[Host]

That's a good walk.

[George]

Yeah, but it's not a hard walk.

[Host]

Yeah, but it's a. It's longish.

[George]

Yeah, but I like walking.

[Host]

Yeah, it's good, isn't it?

[George]

I drove today, though.

[Host]

You drove here? Brilliant.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Where did you grow up?

[George]

In France.

[Host]

Oh, exciting. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't expect you were going to say France. I don't know. Why?

[George]

Rouen.

[Host]

What was Rwand like to grow up in?

[George]

Well, you know, because of my age, it was quite different. We lived in the Algerian quarter. My dad is Algerian and my mother was Irish.

[Host]

Funky mix.

[George]

But. Yes, but I liked France when I lived there.

[Host]

I mean, what was a typical childhood scene? Something that you can recall, you know, a Sunday in childhood in Ruel. What was that?

[George]

Oh, it was great, actually, the Sundays, because my dad would go down to the. He would go down to the market and he would buy a whole chicken, but live and all the food, bring it back and make goose. Goose, yeah.

[Host]

Fantastic.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

So buy a live chicken.

[George]

Yes.

[Host]

And then kill it.

[George]

It's the thing there. It's the thing that they do. It's not the thing, it's the ritual.

[Host]

Yeah, of course. And how was this. How was this for you, this experience of chicken?

[George]

I didn't mind it. Some of my sisters minded it, you know, because my whole building was either Moroccans or Algerians in it. And, you know, if it wasn't a chicken, it would be a luminous. So, you know, it's their religion. It's the way they're brought up, isn't it?

[Host]

Yeah. What do you. What do you feel like? I mean, obviously you have those two histories there of the Irish and Algerian, and, I mean, what do you feel kind of. Do you feel like you're connected to both strongly? Do you feel one way or the other?

[George]

I'm just feel connected to Algerian. Don't ask me why, but I had a lot of love for my dad, and I had a lot of love for, you know, his ways. He was very into the family. He was. He was very wise.

[Host]

What would he make of today's world, do you think?

[George]

Oh, I think with London and England, he'd be okay with it. But the way that Palestine. No, he would be. He would be like me, really angry and upset.

[Host]

Yeah, it's upsetting, isn't it?

[George]

Yes, well, it's Frustrating because you can't do nothing about it because you've got these politicians that are so high and mighty and don't see clearly.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, completely. There's that particular feeling of helplessness. Seeing. Yeah. Seeing pain and not being able to. Because the. Nate, you know, if a child fell off their bike here and was in pain, we would both go to attend it. It's just what people do and to not be able to do that is really tough. You know, you can donate money, you can protest all these things, but fundamentally, as you say, you're right. It's people in dark rooms.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Making the choices.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

I suppose all we can do is be good to each other.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Or the people we encounter. To the best we can do also.

[George]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. How do you feel about your. Your age? What do you think about it? What's it like being your age, whatever it is?

[George]

Well, do you know, be honest. It's the same as being any age, in all honesty, except that maybe the only thing is your body's different, but mentally. Yeah, you've grown wiser, but you're still the same, if that makes any sense. Yeah, but you're just this aged and you can't do anything about that.

[Host]

Yeah, for sure, for sure. If I could, I mean, maybe. This is silly question. If I today gave you a. A body that's 50 years younger, what would you do with it for a day?

[George]

Well, I don't know. I really don't know.

[Host]

Well, have a think. What do you reckon?

[George]

No, I don't. Where did you come up with that?

[Host]

I don't know, it just came to me. I. I don't really plan any of these questions.

[George]

Right. Well, I should plan that one a bit better.

[Host]

Is it not a good. Is it not a good one? But maybe you would like, you know, you would, I don't know, run down a hill or do something crazy. See what I mean? Is there anything you can.

[George]

Oh, yeah. If I had been more than a day, I'd like to take up running.

[Host]

Yes.

[George]

I've never been a runner. You see them flying about?

[Host]

Yeah, there's a lot now. I mean, you can do it. You said you're in the. You said you go to the gym.

[George]

I do, but that's impressive.

[Host]

Yeah, but what's it like to go to a gym? What do you do in there when it's bad weather?

[George]

I go on the treadmill.

[Host]

Do you. Do you see it?

[George]

Oh, I do the ski one as well.

[Host]

Oh, that's fun. Do you get to see, like, A virtual mountain effect or something? No, I don't put it on. I've not been to a gym.

[George]

You need it, do you?

[Host]

But I've not been, so I don't really know what happens in there. Do you?

[George]

Look, you have to motivate yourself when you go to a gym.

[Host]

Are you looking around at other people there?

[George]

No.

[Host]

No.

[George]

I'm not really that type of person.

[Host]

Though, so, you know, you've got a steely focus.

[George]

I've got a focus.

[Host]

When you're in the gym, you're like, I'm going on the treadmill.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

I'm not interested in other people.

[George]

No. If they want to speak to me, fine, but I'm not really.

[Host]

Do they speak to you in the gym?

[George]

No, not really.

[Host]

I'm just trying to figure out what happens in gyms. Has anything exciting to you happened in the gym and is anything fun happened?

[George]

No. Nothing bad. No.

[Host]

How do you feel about people with music on their bikes?

[George]

Sometimes I don't mind at all. It depends if I like the song, isn't it?

[Host]

Yeah. If it's Tom O'Dell.

[George]

If it. Well, yeah, I think it's.

[Host]

I think so. I'm basically. This is a weird conversation to have, in a way. You've told me that you've bumped into the singer Tom Odell in a cafe. So I'm just filling people in from. Filling the listener in.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

You've met two Tomas today.

[George]

Yes, exactly. I ate my day Tommy. Imagine. Do you know him?

[Host]

Yeah, I do know him. I can show you my phone. We've sent messages to each other, George. I approve it. No, no. I feel like we should send him a message after. We can tell him something, you know, you want. Maybe. Maybe in the cafe you didn't get.

[George]

Because you know something, he's out there buying his stuff.

[Host]

Isn't he buying his stuff in the cafe?

[George]

Yeah, yeah. He was buying some salad. It was delicatessen, really. You know, I don't think Tom goes in the cafe, do you?

[Host]

Well, he might.

[George]

He might. Yeah. Well, you know, you don't want to intrude, do you really? I respect other people's space.

[Host]

I think it's. I think so. I'm. There's been points in my musical life where I've been stopped and recognized quite a lot as well. I do music. I'm a kind of. I'm a bit like Tom Adele, but maybe like a rung below. Not quite as favourite below. Rung. Definitely a rung below. I mean, he's very, very serious. I'm just A little bit serious. All right. But I can tell you that it's very rarely ever a bad thing to be stopped and people to say hello to you, especially if it's maybe like.

[George]

You know, I did say hello to.

[Host]

No, no, that's great. Exactly. So I think you shouldn't feel bad for saying. For intruding. I think you did the right. You did the right thing.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

And I'm sure he remembered you. You've got a kind of memorable presence.

[George]

You know, I saw him one time before, but I didn't say hello that time. But I was in John Lewis on Oxford Street.

[Host]

Yeah. And he was there.

[George]

He was.

[Host]

I feel like maybe it's destiny. We should.

[George]

No, I think he was plugging his music at the time. I walked in and I heard his tune, and then I heard the voice and I went, no. So I scrummed all the way up to the elevator, and when I got to the top, there he was, tinkering away. Yeah, But On My Partner's Grave.

[Host]

Yeah.

[George]

One of Tom's songs.

[Host]

Really?

[George]

I've written a bit of it. Yeah.

[Host]

What was. What did he write?

[George]

Was it Nothing Compares or something? His song. Yeah. Anyways, part of his song is on it.

[Host]

I'm going to say this now, and it's a bit of a risk, but at the end of these episodes, I have different songs, songwriters doing a song, an original song, and this is too much Destiny not to ask him to do this one Right. So all I can say is I will ask him.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

And that would be funny, wouldn't it? Yeah, that would be a funny turn of event.

[George]

It is a funny day, isn't it?

[Host]

There we go. Do you play any instruments?

[George]

None.

[Host]

It's time to learn.

[George]

No. No.

[Host]

Why not? You said you feel like any age. Then why not learn the piano?

[George]

Oh, yeah.

[Host]

What would you learn? I could see you with a piano.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Anything else that appeals?

[George]

Guitar. I mean, I think sometimes. This morning I was listening to Pink Floyd.

[Host]

Wonderful.

[George]

Yeah, it was nice.

[Host]

Do you blast it out when you play it? Do you really kind of turn it on?

[George]

Sometimes I do, but my neighbors complain to me.

[Host]

Do they?

[George]

One time they complained about me playing loud music.

[Host]

And what did you say?

[George]

They left me a note in my letter box. Could you ask your daughter to do.

[Host]

Oh, brilliant. That's so good. Did you admit that it was you?

[George]

Yeah. I'm not ashamed of.

[Host]

Yeah, you say get it right. It's me. Is that my daughter?

[George]

Yeah. She. She can play the type of music that I'm listening to.

[Host]

What what do you think you're in your life so far, what do you think you've been good at? What have been your great skills? Doing a self praise, I suppose.

[George]

Looking after my family.

[Host]

That's a good one. What's the best way to look after a family?

[George]

Give them lots of love.

[Host]

Yeah.

[George]

Be there.

[Host]

Simple as that?

[George]

Well, yeah. What else?

[Host]

Yeah, completely. Say if I was just about to start a family of my own, what would you say to me?

[George]

Will you be the right age? No, what I mean by that is that sometimes we can start too young.

[Host]

What do you think is a good age to start?

[George]

30.

[Host]

30?

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Is that because you started at 30?

[George]

No, I started when I was 16.

[Host]

16. Oh wow.

[George]

And then I was married to this man. That wasn't very nice.

[Host]

Oh, I see. Okay.

[George]

So I had two children. They're here in London, but this was in Manchester. Anyway, I was pregnant in them days. You had to get married.

[Host]

Yeah.

[George]

Now it's.

[Host]

Now it's just part of the course. Although it would still be a little bit of a surprise.

[George]

Yes.

[Host]

How so you. So you're 60 when you had your first child?

[George]

Well, I was 16 when I was pregnant.

[Host]

Yeah. What was that like?

[George]

Hard.

[Host]

I mean, did you feel like you hadn't had enough childhood?

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Do you still feel that now?

[George]

Yeah. And I don't think it was fair on the children as well, you know.

[Host]

Were you very quickly into kind of.

[George]

I mean, was that quick into motherhood?

[Host]

Yeah.

[George]

No.

[Host]

Took a while.

[George]

Yeah, it took a while. Yeah. And I just felt like, you know, there was so much I needed to do I hadn't done.

[Host]

So you wouldn't recommend that to someone else to have it?

[George]

Oh, definitely not. No.

[Host]

Having a kid that young, do you feel like you always, you were always looking for that youth again? No. You just. It was gone.

[George]

No, because. No, it was gone. Yeah. And really when they got to a certain age, there was so much still. I was still young that I can do, you know. You can catch up, can't you?

[Host]

Yeah.

[George]

On things.

[Host]

No, completely got a little insect there on you. Just in case. That was disturbing. Can you think of the happiest moment of your life? That's a big question, isn't it?

[George]

I've had many, but I would say when Andy was alive. Yeah.

[Host]

Just any day. He was alive any day.

[George]

At the beginning, I'm sure that at the beginning it's the best.

[Host]

Of course. How did he meet?

[George]

I'm not putting that down.

[Host]

Oh, really? Oh, tantalizing. Oh, can you this clue. Give me a Clue. Come on, this won't get back to you.

[George]

Oh yeah, well, I was. I was. He'd heard that I was selling a bit of smoke, so he came to my flat. He was in. Was it bitten the first time?

[Host]

Yeah.

[George]

Yeah. So then he just kept coming back.

[Host]

To see you or to.

[George]

Yeah, no, to see you, but on the excuse, on the pretense.

[Host]

And when did the pretence finish? Did he ask you out?

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

And then things just happened very quickly, very smoothly.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

Fantastic. Did you get married?

[George]

No.

[Host]

No. Because you already met?

[George]

No, no, I was divorced, but I didn't.

[Host]

You didn't want to get married again?

[George]

I didn't feel the need.

[Host]

Yeah. There is no need. Really.

[George]

No.

[Host]

What was your wedding like when you were 17, in a suit, pregnant.

[George]

This blue suit.

[Host]

You were wearing a blue suit.

[George]

That's cool then.

[Host]

What do you remember of the day of getting married?

[George]

I ran away back home.

[Host]

You ran away from.

[George]

From the reception.

[Host]

From the reception, yeah. At what point did he run away?

[George]

Well, I think it was maybe about two hours. And I just ran home.

[Host]

As in literally ran home.

[George]

As literally went. Run home.

[Host]

You're running.

[George]

Well, it wasn't that far, you know.

[Host]

Did he say bye to anyone? No, no. Did anyone know.

[George]

You know when you kind of sneak.

[Host]

Off somewhere, you know, but it was your homework. Did anyone notice you go?

[George]

I can't remember now, but I just remember doing it and my. My mum sending me back.

[Host]

Oh God. How. What did you try and say to her when you got back in?

[George]

Well, I didn't want to be there.

[Host]

She just pushed you back out?

[George]

I knew it wasn't, you know. Oh, but I had to stay there. Oh God, yeah.

[Host]

Do you wish you ran before you. Do you need the toilet? Okay, so we'll be. We'll be quick sometimes with these things because obviously this is. This is audio and not visual. I sometimes think when people are listening they're going to be wondering not where we are, but what we can see. Can you describe what we can see and how it makes you feel?

[George]

Oh, the lake and the docks. Yeah, it's very relaxing.

[Host]

And then you had me come to ruin it.

[George]

Yeah, no, you, you know, you kind of like brighten my afternoon up.

[Host]

Oh, thank you.

[George]

Yeah.

[Host]

I've really enjoyed talking to you also.

[George]

Yeah. Cuz I'm quite a solar person really.

[Host]

Are you? Yeah, yeah, I can tell you're very willful person. Yeah, I like that. My kind of people are willful.

[George]

Good.

[Host]

Okay, a last question for you. The question is, what are you going to do next?

[George]

Now? Now I'm gonna go to La Toilette.

[Host]

And then past that.

[George]

Oh, past that. I'm gonna walk around.

[Host]

What are you gonna think about?

[George]

I'll think about this conversation.

[Host]

And all my terrible questions.

[George]

Now I should just think about life, really, isn't it?

[Host]

Yeah. Any message you got for Tom Odell?

[George]

No. Nice meeting you.

[Tom Odell]

Nice to meet you, too. And to hear a little bit about your life. Next time that you see me, make sure you say hi. In the delicate sun? Where I buy my red wine? And my lemons? And my limes? We can sit outside and stare? At all the strangers? Just passing by? Passing by strangers? Yeah.

[George]

As.