Behind the Scenes Minis: Parks and Roads

Summary

Stuff You Missed in History Class: Behind the Scenes Minis: Parks and Roads
Released on June 6, 2025 by iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In the "Behind the Scenes Minis: Parks and Roads" episode of Stuff You Missed in History Class, hosts Tracy B. Wilson and Lester Holt delve into the fascinating history and present-day intricacies of iconic American scenic routes such as Skyline Drive, Shenandoah National Park, and the Blue Ridge Parkway. Through personal anecdotes, historical insights, and discussions on environmental conservation, they paint a comprehensive picture of these landmarks' significance and the challenges they face today.

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Personal Connections to Scenic Roads

The episode begins with Lester Holt sharing his deep-rooted connection to the Blue Ridge Parkway, reflecting on his upbringing in Northwest North Carolina and the countless hours he's spent driving its picturesque routes.

“I have probably driven the whole of the North Carolina section some of the Virginia section.” [02:23]

Tracy B. Wilson adds her limited experience, recounting a memorable detour during their wedding journey while searching for a lost dog. This personal story sets the tone for a conversation that intertwines personal experiences with broader historical and environmental themes.

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Historical Perspectives and Land Use Attitudes

Lester introduces a scholarly angle by discussing James F. Sheppard’s paper, “Land Use Attitudes of Rural Residents,” presented at the parkway’s 50th-anniversary conference. He breaks down the categorization of rural residents into native/non-native and further into retirees, counterculturalists, and movers and shakers.

“Five basic groups of residents were found in Grayson County... retirees or summer home residents, counterculturalist, movers and shakers.” [07:28]

This categorization provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the diverse communities surrounding these scenic roads and their varying attitudes toward land use and conservation.

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Challenges in Establishing National Parks

The hosts pivot to a critical discussion on the often-overlooked history of displacement and genocide associated with the creation of national parks. Lester expresses frustration with narratives that overlook the forced removal of indigenous populations, highlighting the complexity behind Shenandoah National Park’s establishment.

“I do not love the fact that especially in the west, like the national parks exist because of displacement and genocide.” [22:54]

This segment underscores the importance of acknowledging and addressing historical injustices intertwined with America's natural landmarks.

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Conservation Efforts and Community Resilience

Tracy highlights the ongoing recovery efforts from Hurricane Helene, emphasizing the resilience of local communities and the slow, often underreported process of rebuilding. She connects this to broader themes of environmental conservation and the critical role of pollinators in our ecosystem.

“We need them [pollinators]. Without them we're not gonna eat.” [22:48]

The discussion extends to their personal commitment to conservation, with Tracy sharing her efforts in planting pollinator-friendly gardens. Lester mentions the role of the Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation, encouraging listeners to engage with organizations dedicated to protecting essential species.

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Listener Stories and Broader Implications

A touching listener story about an incident involving a bee on a plane serves as a poignant reminder of the delicate balance between human activity and wildlife conservation. Tracy’s emotional recounting brings a human element to the conversation, illustrating the profound impact of seemingly small actions on environmental stewardship.

“I literally ended up in tears because I was the only person that cared about the bee and it did not make it off of that plane.” [21:17]

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Current Affairs and Future Outlook

Towards the episode's conclusion, Lester reflects on the changes under the Biden administration, notably the appointment of the first indigenous Secretary of the Interior and the progress in co-managing national park lands with indigenous nations. However, he expresses uncertainty about the current status amidst shifting political landscapes and emerging environmental policies.

“Under the Biden administration, we had an indigenous Secretary of the Interior... I hope we don't make a bunch of big step backwards.” [22:54]

This reflection serves as a call to action for listeners to stay informed and engaged with ongoing environmental and political developments affecting national parks and scenic roads.

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Conclusion

"Behind the Scenes Minis: Parks and Roads" offers a rich tapestry of personal narratives, historical analysis, and contemporary issues surrounding America's beloved scenic roads and national parks. Through thoughtful dialogue, Tracy B. Wilson and Lester Holt invite listeners to appreciate the beauty of these natural wonders while acknowledging and addressing the complex histories and ongoing challenges they face. This episode not only educates but also inspires a deeper connection and responsibility towards preserving these invaluable landscapes for future generations.

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Notable Quotes:

• “I have probably driven the whole of the North Carolina section some of the Virginia section.” – Lester Holt [02:23]

• “Five basic groups of residents were found in Grayson County... retirees or summer home residents, counterculturalist, movers and shakers.” – Lester Holt [07:28]

• “I do not love the fact that especially in the west, like the national parks exist because of displacement and genocide.” – Lester Holt [22:54]

• “We need them [pollinators]. Without them we're not gonna eat.” – Tracy B. Wilson [22:48]

• “I literally ended up in tears because I was the only person that cared about the bee and it did not make it off of that plane.” – Tracy B. Wilson [21:17]

• “Under the Biden administration, we had an indigenous Secretary of the Interior... I hope we don't make a bunch of big step backwards.” – Lester Holt [22:54]

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Transcript

[Lester Holt]

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[Tracy B. Wilson]

Hope to see you back here.

[Lester Holt]

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[Tracy B. Wilson]

Welcome to Stuff youf Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio.

[Lester Holt]

Happy Friday. I'm Tracy B. Wilson.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

And I'm Holly Fry.

[Lester Holt]

This week we talked about Skyline Drive and Shenandoah national park and the Blue Ridge Parkway. Yeah, all of those things. So I grew up in Northwest North Carolina. I consequently have spent a lot of time on the parkway in my life. I would say I have probably driven the whole of the North Carolina section some of the Virginia section. I lived in an area where you could drive approximately north by a couple of different routes and get to the parkway in Virginia. Even though I grew up in North Carolina. And so that was kind of a thing to do. And then at various points I have lived in western North Carolina, Spent a lot of time on the parkway. I think I have only been on Skyline Drive once on a trip to Virginia some years ago.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

I think I have only been on a tiny part of the parkway when we were driving to your wedding.

[Lester Holt]

Oh, really?

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Yeah. I haven't been on either of these.

[Lester Holt]

I'm imagining which way you would have gone that would have taken you onto the parkway. But that's just like my mental.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Well, I will say I don't know if you remember and I don't even remember if we told you. Oh no, well, it wasn't important. But I didn't want to fret you in any way. As we were driving. I can't remember if it was as we were driving there or back. We took a weird detour. Cause we were following a dog.

[Lester Holt]

Okay.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

And we like would lose track of it and try to find it again. And eventually we just lost track of the dog completely.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

It must have been on the way home. Cause I can't imagine I would have been like. Especially because we were driving your wedding dress to you, that I would have been like, let's keep following this dog wherever it may lead us. We gotta. I mean, I would want to rescue the dog. So I don't remember. But I do remember being in a weird place and being like, uh, oh, we went a long way trying to.

[Lester Holt]

Oh, wow.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

So I think that was what happened with that.

[Lester Holt]

Yeah, yeah, I think.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

But I. I remember having a moment of, oh, we're on the thing. Not for very long. I mean like for a very short period of time. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember much of it. Haven't driven through that area very much.

[Lester Holt]

When I was living in the Atlanta area, there was one time that I had gone on a little like vacation, long weekend kind of thing to Asheville. And I just didn't want to go home yet when it was time to go home. And so I made the drive home be just a very long out of the way route where I was on the parkway for a really long time and then dropped off of it and like went through the back roads through the northern like north Georgia to get back home. Stopped it everywhere that was selling local honey.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Yum.

[Lester Holt]

Had a collection of unusual honeys by the Time I got home. I have a great fondness for the Blue Ridge Parkway. And I have also had mixed feelings about it since my childhood. Like from going up there with my mom kind of being like, this is a beautiful drive. This is really pretty. Why is there a road here? Did we build a road here just to drive on? Basically, yes.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Lester Holt]

And I would say that my various layers of mixed feelings about all of these things just got more complex. More layers of mixed feelings. Because it is beautiful. The whole area around the parkway is beautiful. A lot of it is currently hurricane devastated, but still beautiful. Something that I've sort of come to appreciate more recently is that I like the idea of everyone having access to nature. And I think that, like, beautiful mountain view views should not be reserved only for people that have the ability to hike long distances.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Right.

[Lester Holt]

That kind of stuff. So I read a lot of stuff for these episodes. One of the things that I read was the proceedings of a conference that had been held for the 50th anniversary of the parkway. To be clear, the parkway was not done yet when they had this 50th anniversary conference, because it was starting with, like, when it was authorized and it took more than 50 years to get done. So there was a paper that was by James F. Sheppard called Land Use Attitudes of Rural Residents. And here's a quote, quote. To obtain the attitudes of rural residents regarding land use, I have conducted ethnographic interviews. All the interviews were tape recorded. Five basic groups of residents were found in Grayson County. First, the residents were divided into native or non native categories. I will take a moment to say I think native or non Native in this context is the people who were born and grow up, grew up there versus people who moved into the area.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

I. I gotcha. Not suggesting indigenous.

[Lester Holt]

Yeah, I don't think this means indigenous or non indigenous. From these two categories, residents could fall into one of three subcategories. One, retirees or summer home resident, two, counterculturalist, three, movers and shakers. And I was like, wow. I had never really thought about what three categories could I sort of people into for areas like the Blue Ridge Mountains around the parkway. But boy, does that really make sense to me, these three broad categories. I also read a couple of very deeply frustrating articles about the process of removing people from their land for Shenandoah National Parks establishment, because they made it sound like this was an unprecedented thing in the region. And I'm like, okay, we're talking about a place that is named Shenandoah, which is generally agreed as coming from an indigenous Language. But we're not actually sure which language or which specific word it's a reference to because of all the forced removal and displacement and genocide that had already happened in earlier eras before people were again and forcibly removed from Shenandoah for the park. I found that very frustrating.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Yeah. I fixated on something very silly in this episode, this second episode.

[Lester Holt]

I'm gonna let you tell everybody because you told me. And I was like, I thought it was funny. Oh, it's the same thing that we talked about. I don't know. Let's see. Tell me. No, tell me what you fixated on.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

The guy talking about taking a knife to the Mona Lisa. Okay, here's why that was funny to me.

[Lester Holt]

Okay.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

This conversation was happening in the 1930s. If it had happened 40 years earlier, no one would have referenced the Mona Lisa.

[Lester Holt]

Oh, yeah.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Because no one knew anything about it until it got stolen in 1911.

[Lester Holt]

That's so funny.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

And it just made me laugh so hard because, you know, even if you look at old news reports about the theft, some of them feature the wrong piece of art. Like, nobody knew what the Mona Lisa was. And so, because I really like art history, and that theft in particular is fascinating to me because of how it shaped global views of art history. It's like, you see, in a very short, less than three decades, it had become such an obvious touchstone to people that it had been elevated from completely unknown work to the apex of art that you would never deface. And I'm fascinated by that. Anyway, mention of the Mona Lisa. What was the thing that you thought.

[Lester Holt]

I was going to say? So I thought you were gonna say something. So normally when we do these behind the scenes episodes, we record the episode and then we record the behind the scenes. And since the Skyline Drive episode and the Blue Ridge Parkway episode were sort of researched and written in tandem, we recorded the Skyline Drive one, which was finished, and then I finished the Blue Ridge Parkway 1, and we recorded that the next week. And now here we are recording the behind the scenes for both of them together. But you and I had a conversation after recording the Skyline Drive one about statements that people were making about a proposed Skyline Drive through Shenandoah. That would be like an unparalleled scenic. Oh, yeah. And you found that hilarious?

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Not that it's not beautiful, but anytime people get real superlative about something like that, I think I said something like, brother, have you not been to Italy? When you drive along Italy and you can see the mountains where the Carrera marble comes from, it's a Pretty astonishing view. And lots of places have views equally astonishing and beautiful. So it's like when they're like unparalleled, I'm like, I mean, yes, but like, are you sure you want to go out on a limb like that?

[Lester Holt]

I think some of the people who made statements like that, like there was a context of specifically building a road in order for it to be a scenic drive without a lot of other purpose. And I was trying to figure out if there were other. Like, there are definitely other. There are plenty of other parkways in the world. There are a ton of other parkways in the United States. This, the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive were built during an era of road building through and to connect to the national parks. And a lot of it had this like, very similar, quote, naturalistic design for the road. And like, the road was supposed to be beautiful and the landscape the road was traveling through was supposed to be beautiful and managed.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Lester Holt]

So some of the people at the time who were writing about this kind of thing made it sound like this was a completely new idea for the entire world. That nowhere in the world had anyone decided to just make a road in order to be a scenic road, not just to have a road that's a highway for travel that happens to be scenic. And I don't actually know the answer to that. Whether this really, I would say probably not a completely unprecedented thing. But some of the people who were writing about these roads in the 1930s made it sound like it was totally new idea. No one had ever thought to just build a scenic road for its scenicness as the primary purpose before. If you own a home, here's an interesting fact for you. Today, American homeowners are sitting on a record amount of home equity. That's the part of your home you own outright. The value you can tap to fund other life goals. In fact, the average Rocket Mortgage homeowner has about $170,000 in untapped equity available now. Rocket Mortgage can help you understand what home equity is and how to use it wisely for what matters to you. They've made it easier than ever to turn your home equity into cash with Rocket Mortgage. So now the home you worked so hard for can work hard for you in plenty of different ways. Home equity can help you fund a home renovation, pay for your kids college tuition, or pay off and consolidate high interest debt from credit cards. To learn more, just call 804Rocket or visit Rocket.com today. Rocket Mortgage LLC. Licensed in 50 states. Nmlsconsumeraccess.org 3030 $178,000 Average equity based on internal rocket mortgage servicing date.

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[Tracy B. Wilson]

I also get in that like heady overthinking space of building a scenic road for it to be scenic but also having to do maintenance on it. I'm like, is that really scenic or is it curated?

[Lester Holt]

It's definitely curated.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Right. So like I don't know, like I said, it gets way too in my head and in the weeds about like what is that then? What's a real scenic road? Is it, you know, barely paved? Is it because you'll never see the truly untouched version of it.

[Lester Holt]

Yeah.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Unless you are a person. This goes back to your discussion about how important it is that you know, nature access be available to everyone. And clearly everyone could not see those places if we did not put some sort of roadway through there.

[Lester Holt]

Right.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Yeah, I just, I end up in the. I'm the snake that bites its own tail. I can't get out of the spiral.

[Lester Holt]

All of these things are true. They are all interconnected together. I, I said at the. I think, I think I said in the the Shenandoah episode that a lot of people that I talked to in and around the Asheville area were incredibly anxious for tourism to come back to pre helene levels. I don't want to like minimize the fact that this like this storm was horrifically destructive. There were a lot of whole towns and villages that were basically wiped off the map.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Lester Holt]

Like the entire, the entire village just basically swept off of its foundations by floodwaters and the debris in the floodwaters. There are a lot of roads in the area that are closed to everything but local traffic and in some cases like you actually have to have a permit saying yes, this is like I live here.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Right.

[Lester Holt]

To be able to go down that road. So I intentionally did not try to get into any of those areas. I intentionally stayed, like, in the areas that have said, we are open for business, please come. And I don't know. I have nothing else to say about that, really, except that, like, if you've been wondering, is it okay to go to vacations on these places? The answer seems to be from the local people. Yes, it's okay to go on vacation to these places, but, like, don't go. Try to bully yourself into the areas that are still, like, lacking basic services, like where the roads are still destroyed. That kind of stuff. Yeah.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

And I'm very glad you did these episodes because all of this does speak to the fact that the news cycle is so bananas that we can lose track of the things that take a long time to recover from. Like, there's no coverage of Helene recovery going on in any major news outlets that I've seen in quite some time. And it's easy, I think, for people that are not immediately affected by it to forget that there are still people really, really struggling to try to get their feet back under them. I don't know how we fix this problem because there is so much to take in constantly. But also, if you think I did not run to the Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation, you're wrong.

[Lester Holt]

That's right.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

There.

[Lester Holt]

So excited.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

I have already been working a lot on my selection of plants for the yard this year to make sure that we're friendly to pollinators and other creatures. But they're full of good information there. If anybody hasn't been there yet and hadn't heard of it until our listener mail this week that mentioned it specifically because it's cool. Yeah, Yeah. I got a flashback as you were reading that listener letter to the time I had a very sad breakdown on a plane over a bee. It's just not that long ago there was a bee in a plane during boarding. This is probably a year, a year and a half ago. And the people sitting near me lost their minds and freaked out and had. Were like, kill it. And I was trying to, like, I wanted to collect it and put it outside again during boarding. Boarding door not closed, people coming and going. And there was one woman that was just like, people are allergic. You could die. And I'm like, are you allergic? And, like, it's a B. It's fine. And I just. I literally ended up in tears because I was the only person. Person that cared about the bee and it did not make it off of that plane. I'm sad to say because some dude had to show what a protector he was. Anyway, sorry, Bee, it did not do enough for you that day. Anyway, do what you can for your pollinators. We need them.

[Lester Holt]

Yeah.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Without them we're not gonna eat. Yeah.

[Lester Holt]

Yeah. I don't know if I have anything else to. To say about any of these things. I will reiterate that I do love our national parks. I do not love the fact that especially in the west, like the. The national parks exist because of displacement and genocide. And then in the east, also true, but like separated by more time that had passed in the interim under the Biden administration, we had an indigenous Secretary of the Interior for the first time, an indigenous director of the National Park Service for the first time. And a lot of work was being done to try to like work out co management agreements with different indigenous nations to co manage land that is their ancestral homeland. In some cases to return land from the parks that didn't start with the Biden administration, but like that had been like specific intentional thing that had been undertaken under that administration. And I don't know what the status of any of that is at this point, in part because the fire hose of things about the national parks in particular has been focused on other stuff like reductions in force for the park workers and like opening up national forests to more logging and that kind of stuff. So my efforts to figure out like what the Trump administration's views are on that part, I did not go read Project 2025 or whatever to find out if that said anything. But yeah, I hope, hope even the right word that we don't make a bunch of big step backwards and all of that.

[Tracy B. Wilson]

Me too. Fingers, toes and little B feet crossed. Yeah, little B feet.

[Lester Holt]

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