Behind the Scenes Minis: So You Hate Waffles

Summary

Summary of “Behind the Scenes Minis: So You Hate Waffles”

Stuff You Missed in History Class presents a compelling behind-the-scenes look into the making of the podcast episode titled “So You Hate Waffles.” Hosts Holly Fry and Tracy V. Wilson delve into their creative processes, challenges faced during production, and share personal anecdotes that offer listeners an intimate glimpse into their world. This detailed summary captures the essence of their conversation, highlighting key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges.

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1. Navigating Content Creation in Turbulent Times

Impact of Current Events on Production

Tracy V. Wilson opens the discussion by reflecting on the difficulties of producing the podcast amidst a series of disruptive events. She compares the current situation to the early weeks of the COVID-19 pandemic, emphasizing the unusual and challenging environment in which they are operating.

Tracy V. Wilson [04:27]: "It feels like every time I turn around, there's yet another thing. And a lot of it is incredibly disruptive, not just to our work, but also to our work."

Holly Fry echoes these sentiments, acknowledging the strain these disruptions place on their focus and workflow.

2. The "Oh, So You Hate Waffles" Discourse

Miscommunication in Internet Culture

A significant portion of their conversation centers around the phenomenon Tracy describes as the “oh, so you hate waffles” discourse. Originating from social media platforms like Twitter, this trend involves making broad assumptions about a person's preferences based on limited information.

Tracy V. Wilson [04:12]: "Sometimes it feels like there is a jump to if you don't specifically mention something, an assumption that you don't know or care about it..."

Holly shares a personal encounter with this discourse, illustrating its prevalence and the frustration it causes.

Holly Fry [04:15]: "This happened to me quite recently on the Internet."

3. Limited Content for the “Unearthed” Segment

Focusing on Fewer, More Impactful Topics

Tracy discusses the constraints they faced while preparing the latest “Unearthed” segment, noting a surprising scarcity of shipwreck-related content compared to previous episodes.

Tracy V. Wilson [05:59]: "I had a whole lot more than three bookmarks about shipwrecks, but they turned out to all be about the same three things."

This limitation led them to streamline their content, resulting in a more focused yet limited discussion on shipwrecks.

4. Revisiting Historical Research Topics

Jack the Ripper and Medieval Illuminated Manuscripts

The hosts delve into historical research topics covered in their episodes, specifically the evolving theories around Jack the Ripper and the role of women in creating medieval illuminated manuscripts.

Tracy V. Wilson [07:21]: "The research to try to sort of quantify, like, what was women's contribution here?"

Holly shares her enthusiasm for the manuscripts, highlighting how initial headlines can sometimes exaggerate findings, leading to misconceptions about historical contributions.

Holly Fry [07:47]: "I credit this to when I was much, much younger and I danced ballet... I just gotta change backstage."

5. Creative Inspirations and Fictional Ideas

From Historical Facts to Fictional Narratives

Their discussion takes a creative turn as Holly proposes a fictional movie idea inspired by the research on illuminated manuscripts.

Holly Fry [09:02]: "I wanna do a fictional movie that all of the very charming times we have seen, illustrations of cats in illuminated manuscripts... it's their whisper campaign of kitties."

Tracy expands on this whimsical notion by mentioning a related short story suggested by Mary Robinette Kowal.

Tracy V. Wilson [09:35]: "Marginalia by Mary Robinette Kowal. I would like to thank Google for actually delivering a great result to me with what I put in."

6. Art Thefts and Historical Mysteries

The Case of the Stolen Dali and Gardner Museum

The hosts segue into discussions about famous art thefts, pondering the mysterious disappearance of Salvador Dali’s artwork from Rikers Island and the ongoing mystery of the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum heist.

Holly Fry [20:20]: "And I'm like, maybe they palmed it off to some dude and he's got it. And one day we will find it accidentally on loan from a private collector too."

Tracy links this to broader speculations about art thefts never being fully resolved, adding a layer of intrigue to their narrative.

Tracy V. Wilson [22:06]: "For some reason, there's been sort of speculation on and off about whether the painting stolen from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum still exists or not."

7. The Waffle Maker Banter

A Light-Hearted Exchange on Waffle Preferences

In keeping with the episode’s title, Holly and Tracy engage in a humorous and relatable discussion about their differing relationships with waffle makers. This segment adds levity to their conversation, showcasing their personalities and camaraderie.

Holly Fry [30:22]: "I have so many waffle makers. It's silly. I love multi waffle maker... my Grogu ones, I got a million Star Wars ones..."

Tracy V. Wilson [30:19]: "I don't actually like waffles."

This playful banter emphasizes the contrasting tastes between the hosts, providing a delightful end to their behind-the-scenes dialogue.

8. Closing Reflections and Upcoming Content

Wishes for Listeners and Teasers for Future Episodes

As the discussion winds down, Tracy offers heartfelt wishes to their audience, recognizing the increasing struggles many face daily.

Tracy V. Wilson [31:22]: "Especially for anybody who is struggling with anything... we will have a brand new episode on Monday."

Holly briefly touches on external events, such as a marketing hoax involving an art exhibit, and they collaboratively debunk the misinformation, reinforcing the importance of accurate information dissemination.

Holly Fry [27:40]: "But nobody seems to think that's really what happened. The video... is part of the marketing strategy for Eric Aronson's new movie, Any Day Now."

Conclusion

The “Behind the Scenes Minis: So You Hate Waffles” episode offers a multifaceted look into the dynamic relationship between hosts Holly Fry and Tracy V. Wilson. Through candid discussions about content creation challenges, historical research topics, creative ideas, and personal preferences, listeners gain an enriched understanding of what goes into crafting each episode of Stuff You Missed in History Class. The inclusion of notable quotes with timestamps not only anchors their conversation but also enhances the narrative flow, making it engaging and insightful for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.

Transcript

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[Holly Fry]

Welcome to Stuff youf Missed in History Class, a production of I Heart Radio.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

[Holly Fry]

And I'm Holly Fry.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

We had our quarterly installment of Unearthed this week.

[Holly Fry]

We did.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Beginning with just an incredibly long introduction on my part about.

[Holly Fry]

Because who knows? This could be the last Unearthed.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Thanks. Yeah, yeah, Great. Obviously, I want to reiterate again, that is not everything that is happening in the world. I know. It's not everything that's happening in the world. I feel like the. One of the things that has happened in Internet culture that I really hate is the thing that has started to be summed up as the oh, so you hate waffles discourse.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Where this is from, I think back when it was Twitter, someone's Twitter tweets and in which they talked about people saying, I like pancakes. And the response in places like Twitter being, oh, so you hate waffles. And sometimes it feels like there is a jump to if you don't specifically mention something, an assumption that you don't know or care about it, or if you say that you like something, an assumption that you hate some. Something else. Or in this case, if you list off a ton of things that are affecting your work directly, an assumption that you don't know or care about all of the other things also concurrently happening.

[Holly Fry]

Yes.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

That's not the case.

[Holly Fry]

This happened to me quite recently on the Internet.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Oh, yeah?

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Do you want to have detail or just. Yeah, just how it's going. Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

I mean, minor. I'm unconcerned with that particular iteration.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah. That just made it an incredibly weird time to be working on this. This has been a weird time to be working on this podcast. Like, we've acknowledged that before. Like, in the early weeks of the COVID 19 pandemic, we talked about how incredibly bizarre it was to be working on something while clearly living through, like, a. A historic moment. This is clearly also a historic moment. I am not enjoying it.

[Holly Fry]

Moi non plus.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

No. I'm trying to finish my work a few minutes early today so that I can get on a train and go to a protest. It feels like every time I turn around, there's yet another thing. And a lot of it is incredibly disruptive, not just to our work, but also to our work. So I had a very difficult time focusing on putting these Unearthed episodes together. And then I also felt like, in some ways, it was weirdly conspiring against me to try to work on Unearthed. Like we mentioned that we have comparatively fewer than normal shipwrecks. There's only three in this. In this episode, which is, like, not many compared to a lot of our unearthed discussions. I had a whole lot more than three bookmarks about shipwrecks, but they turned out to all be about the same three things.

[Holly Fry]

Oh, right.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

But they were, like, written or framed or headlined in a way that they did not sound like all of the same three things. And so it was as I was writing up the shipwreck part that I was slowly winnowing down the number of links to only be the ones that were the same three things. And I was like, do we really only have three right now? That's weird.

[Holly Fry]

We found all the ships.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

No more. There's none left to look at.

[Holly Fry]

No more ships out there.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I really did not realize that the stuff that everybody was talking about regarding Jack the Ripper seems to have traced back to something that was published in 2019.

[Holly Fry]

Something elderly. Yeah, yeah, I did. And here's how this came out in my life. Okay, So I have a friend who has long had, like, a pet project that they're working on that involves a fictional interpretation of the Jack the Ripper story. And they have, you know, done a ton of research, and they're always, you know, working with the latest up to date. And they messaged me and they were like, I don't believe this person did it. I'm so mad. And I was like, my darling, please look at the date. It's fine. Like, it's fine.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

Don'T sweat it. This changes nothing from yesterday, I promise you.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah, the. The various articles had just expressed it so confidently that I was like. I was like, number one, I'm pretty sure that other sources are going to not be so confident about it. That was not surprising to me at all. But, yeah, I just. I was unaware that this was really something about research that had been done years ago. Similarly, I was really into the research into how many of the medieval illuminated manuscripts were created by women scribes. Yeah, I love those manuscripts. And, you know, I like when it has come up on the show that, you know, various ones that have been created by women or, you know, by a religious order that was a women's religious order. So I thought the research to try to sort of quantify, like, what was the contribution of women here and something that is stereotypically thought of as, like. Like, there are even illustrations of. Of the monks with their tonsures over the thing drawing on them. So the idea of, like, let's quantify just what was women's contribution here? Some of the headlines about that research made it sound like it was really women all along. And I was like, okay, no, it's still a small percentage overall that were created by women. It's not nothing. It's still important. But this did not fundamentally rewrite our understanding of illuminated manuscript production, although it.

[Holly Fry]

Gave me a great idea for a story.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

I wanna do a fictional movie that all of the very charming times we have seen, illustrations of cats in illuminated manuscripts that seem odd and slightly out of place are a secret code among the women illustrators that are all communicating to one another like, this is my work. This is my work. This is my work. It's their whisper campaign of kitties. They're the original cat ladies.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Holly Fry]

That is my fanciful baloney. Please don't anybody take any of that as informed information.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Mary Robinette Koal, who has been on the show before, has suggested some of the topics we have covered on the show, has a short story that is set in a world in which the giant snails that you see in illuminated manuscripts are real things that people have to contend with. Oh, it's a great story. I'm going to sit here, I'm going to Google, see if I can Google the name of it. Mary Robinette Kowal Snail Story Marginalia was published in Uncanny Magazine. If you want to go look that up again. Marginalia by Mary Robinette Kowal. I would like to thank Google for actually delivering a great result to me with what I put in.

[Holly Fry]

Woo. Thanks, Google.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Mary Robinette Kowal Snail Story Snails. One of the weird rabbit hole isn't the right word. The thing that we talked about that was about the tent, the real tent probably depicted in a fresco in Italy. The news releases about that research kept describing it as an Islamic 10. And I got very tangled up in whether that is correct terminology. Like, definitely, this is a tent from the Islamic world. But, like, did this tent have an Islamic religious purpose?

[Holly Fry]

Right.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And that I did not really get to the bottom of. But boy, did I spend just an inordinate amount of time thinking about whether that was the way that made sense to describe that. Because I immediately was like, how exactly was the tent Islamic?

[Holly Fry]

Right.

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Code [e-mail] In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Someone was posting photos.

[Unknown Levittown Participant]

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[Olivia Carville]

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[Margie Murphy]

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[Tracy V. Wilson]

I'm trying to remember if I had anything else from our unearthed things that I really wanted to talk about in our behind the scenes today.

[Holly Fry]

I have two things.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Oh, tell me.

[Holly Fry]

So, one is the luxury bathing complex.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

Because it's, you know, we talked about in the thing that it is off of a banquet hall. And I just had that moment of, hey, you guys, you wanna come over to my house and dinner and take a bath with me? It's just how weird that is to me, culturally.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

I mean, I'm not even like a spa person. Like, I don't. So the idea of it's gonna be a very luxurious night at so and so's house. We're all gonna have a spa spa.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Together, and I'm like, ending in a cold plunge.

[Holly Fry]

That's a hard pass. No, thank you.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I am a small. A spa person, so the. The general idea of that did not seem that strange to me. However, the fact that, like, the banquet hall is connected to the changing rooms and at least I don't recall there being. It did not seem like there was a sense of privacy in the changing rooms. It seemed more like it like a room with benches and like a big locker room. Like. Yeah. And I was sort of reminded of on our trip to Iceland last year when we went to Blue Lagoon.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And the way it works at. At Blue Lagoon, or the. At least the way it works when you were there is that you are given your towel. Like, you have to go and wash your body before you get in the water.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And you are not given a towel or a robe unless you have paid extra for a robe. Like you. You don't have A towel or a robe or whatever. So there are just periods of time that you need to be naked.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I was not prepared to just be naked around the people who were on the trip with us.

[Unknown Levittown Participant]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

It was a little weird.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And I was. You know, I had a moment where I felt kind of hung up on it, and then I was like, we're all gonna be naked.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah, exactly. Listen, I'm practically a never nude. Right? Like, me and Tobias get each other. I don't. I never take. My feet are never uncovered. My body is never. I don't want to touch the outside world with my person.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Right. Even, like, having been to massage school and having practiced as a licensed massage therapist for several years, like, I just. I got very accustomed to nudity and bodies. But at the same time, we also took a lot of care to make sure that the parts of people's bodies that we think of as private were covered.

[Holly Fry]

Right.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

And so, like, there was just. There was not a lot of walking around completely unclothed in front of other people.

[Holly Fry]

That part is actually not so bad for me.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

Like, the idea of modesty and nudity in front of other people. I credit this to when I was much, much younger and I danced ballet and I danced kind of as a junior member of. For a while. And, like, you just gotta change backstage. And sometimes everything is coming off down to, like, tights or sometimes to nothing before you can whip it back on and go back on stage. And so I was a little inured to that. I just. As I've gotten older, I don't know if I'm Howard Hughesing out or what, but I don't want anything touch. I don't want to be exposed.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

It's less of like a. Yeah. A part of it is just like. I don't. I don't want to accidentally be abraded by anything. I don't want any discomfort to surprise or sneak attack me in any way.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah. When I was in high school and I did drum corps, I got very used to just, like, being in the locker room changing clothes in front of other people. But that was still sort of a. Like, that was the. A group of people that I was used to being around in those contexts.

[Holly Fry]

Right.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Not so much the people who were on the trip with us. Also not so much. If I were invited to a nice dinner at a politician's house and then everybody else from the political dinner is gonna go, I would, in my modern sensibilities, be kind of like, ah, I gotta think about the fact that now We've all seen each other naked.

[Holly Fry]

Well, I also am like, the last thing I wanna see or be around after a rich meal is the naked bodies of all those people who have eaten that rich meal. That's just not for me.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Makes sense.

[Holly Fry]

I sound so hung up. Yeah, that one just got me. I had another big thought though, which might have more levity or maybe that had levity.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Okay.

[Holly Fry]

The Brueghel painting.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

The idea of like, it's not clear how the theft happened. No, of course not. But having done an entire season of criminalia about thefts.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Uh huh.

[Holly Fry]

It's shocking how many famous art thefts literally constituted. I just took it off the wall and walked out.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Right.

[Holly Fry]

So I'm like, I can tell you how it probably happened.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yoink. Somebody just walked out with it and covered a magazine printout.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah. This also is one of those things that gives me hope from another story that was in that particular season. Have we talked about this? Do you know that there was for a while an original Salvador Dali on display at Rikers Island?

[Tracy V. Wilson]

No.

[Holly Fry]

He did this piece of art for the incarcerated men there because he was supposed to go and give a talk to an art program that they were doing and he was sick that day. So instead he like made a quick piece of art, which was an interesting choice, it's like a crucifixion piece, and sent it to Rikers with, you know, his compliments to the people who were part of that program. And it for a long time was displayed in the mess hall over the trash can. So it got splattered with stuff and then it got put in storage. And then someone realized, we have an original Dali, we should put it on display in the admin building. And they did. And then it got stolen by three of the guards.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Okay.

[Holly Fry]

It has never been recovered. They may have destroyed it. And that breaks my heart because, like. Yeah, but then we have stories like this and I'm like, maybe. Maybe they palmed it off to some dude and he's got it. And one day we will find it accidentally on loan from a private collector too.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Or somebody's heirs will be cleaning out their estate.

[Holly Fry]

I hope, I hope. There are several pieces that, you know, have never been recovered. And we hope and hope, but this reminded me a little of the Dali.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

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[Margie Murphy]

In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Someone was posting photos.

[Unknown Levittown Participant]

It was just me. Naked. Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts on my body. Parts that looked exactly like my own.

[Olivia Carville]

I wanted to throw up. I wanted to scream.

[Margie Murphy]

It happened in Levittown, New York.

[Olivia Carville]

But reporting the series took us through the darkest corners of the Internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deepfake pornography.

[Maria Tremarque]

This should be illegal, but what is this?

[Olivia Carville]

This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and about vigilantes trying to to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy.

[Margie Murphy]

And I'm Olivia Carvill.

[Olivia Carville]

This is Levittown, A new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope.

[Margie Murphy]

Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maria Tremarque]

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[Holly Fry]

And I'm Holly Fry. Together we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime.

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Each season we explore a new theme, everything from poisoners and pirates to art thieves and snake oil products and those who made and sold them.

[Holly Fry]

We uncover the stories and secrets of some of history's most compelling criminal figures, including a man who built a submarine as a getaway vehicle. Yep, that's a fact.

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We also look at what kinds of societal forces were at play at the time of the crime, from legal injustices to the ethics of body snatching, to see what, if anything, might look different through today's perspective.

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[Holly Fry]

Did we talk about. I haven't seen any updates. Several weeks before we are recording this conversation, there was some video that was all over social media of an art exhibit in, I think it was in soho in New York that was allegedly like authorities walking into the art exhibit and taking a painting off the wall because it was Christ on the Sea of Galilee. It was that painting from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum. But the thing is, everyone was like, is this a piece of performance art about that theft? Is this really something happening at this gallery? Galleries wouldn't show a piece of art that they knew was famous and stolen. And I'm like, yes, they would. But I never saw a follow up on it and I haven't dug around and I didn't know if you had seen that.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I did not. I somehow missed all of this.

[Holly Fry]

Let me see if I can look for it really quick.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

As I said, I was struggling with focus while working on this, so it would not surprise me if there were a big thing that should have wound up in the episode that did not.

[Holly Fry]

Well, I mean, I think the fact that you didn't see anything of it makes it seem like that might have been a hoaxy. Hoax. Hoax. Okay, hold on. NBC has a thing. NBC Boston says, what's the date on it? This was just from the. The thing March 17th. So it's literally in reference to that.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Okay.

[Holly Fry]

But nobody seems to think that's really what happened. The video. It's a marketing video. Yeah, the video I'm quoting from NBC Boston, quote, the video, which depicts FBI agents confiscating the stolen Rembrandt masterpiece from an art gallery in New York City, is part of the marketing strategy for Eric Aronson's new movie, Any day Now.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Okay, that's what's up. Well, all right then. Somehow that's locally new.

[Holly Fry]

It premiered at the Summerville Theater.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Oh God, I do miss living in Somerville. I got priced out of that place when we were ready to buy a house.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

But I'm still there regularly and I still have friends who live there. All of them are renting, I think.

[Holly Fry]

Nobody owns a house in Somerville.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Everyone's all furious about a Fulbright scholar basically being snatched off the street.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah, of course, over.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I have read the op ed that she co wrote. I found it to be not even that radical. I'm not saying that people should be disappeared for radical speech at all. But I found the op ed to be a pretty even handed criticism of the Tufts administration. Administration's response to resolutions passed by the student senate related to Israel and Gaza. And as I understand it, like the student senate debated over these things throughout the night before voting on them. And the op ed was basically like. To have gotten this really flat dismissal from the administration almost immediately. Does not seem like you actually listened to what the students were saying. And while graduate students were not part of this, were still part of this university, it did not to me say anything that would be cause in any circumstance for six plain clothed officers to be snatching somebody off the street.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

The only circumstance I can think of that that might be appropriate would be someone making active threats of violence and a need to take that person into custody right now. Which is not what was happening in any way.

[Holly Fry]

Right.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

So anyway, my entire friend community is outraged and heartbroken. That's how we're all feeling right now.

[Holly Fry]

Yeah.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Not just for that reason, but that's one of the reasons.

[Holly Fry]

So you're saying you hate waffles?

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I don't actually.

[Holly Fry]

I thought you were gonna say I don't actually like waffles.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

I was trying to think of something funny to append to that and I just. I didn't. I didn't. The only waffle maker we have in our household currently is a little mini waffle maker.

[Holly Fry]

And yeah, that's how I make eggs in the morning.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

I have so many waffle makers.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah, it does mean when sometimes Patrick wants to make waffles. There's a lengthy waffle making process because of our one little mini waffle making.

[Holly Fry]

Oh my gosh. I have so many. I have so many. It's silly. I love multi waffle maker. I got my Grogu ones, I got a million Star wars ones, I got Halloween ones. I got Haunted Mansion ones.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

I think I finally rehomed my hello Kitty one that I had for a long time. I love a waffle maker. I don't know what to tell you. BB8 is maybe my favorite. Very exciting.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah.

[Holly Fry]

So I can make all the waffles of all the shapes and sizes, but I usually make savory ones, not sweet ones.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah, waffles is definitely a more fun way to close out this little behind the scenes. I will just say we're recording this on April 1st. It's going to be two solid weeks before these episodes come out. Who even knows what is happening in those two weeks?

[Holly Fry]

There's literally no telling.

[Tracy V. Wilson]

Yeah. So whatever's happening on your weekend, boy, do I just have thoughts of peace and love. Especially for anybody who is struggling with anything. The list of people who are struggling with things just increasing for me every day. So I hope what's happening on your weekend can have a moment of like rest. You gotta take a moment of rest sometimes to keep yourself going. We will be back with a Saturday classic tomorrow. I think I've lined up a couple of Saturday classics that are related to things that came up today. We will have a brand new episode on Monday. Stuff youf Missed in History Class is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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