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Josh
Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck, and Jerry's here sitting in for days. So that's a short stuff. That's a bingo.
Chuck
That's right. And we're talking about the shark arm murder. And we need to thank the Dictionary of Sydney. The Sydney Crime Museum, Snopes and Atlas Obscura.
Josh
Wow, you really did that up, man.
Chuck
I love that Atlas Obscura site. That's a great, great website.
Josh
Yeah, same here. Same with Snopes, too. They're good too. Yeah.
Chuck
And hey, hats off to the Sydney Crime Museum while we're at it.
Josh
Yeah. And who could leave out the Dictionary of Sydney?
Chuck
Yes, we're talking about Sydney because that's where the shark arm murders took place. Infamous crime in Sydney, Australia's history in 1935. And this is how it starts. A fisherman was fishing off of Coogee beach and caught a little small shark. And then right after that, a larger tiger shark swallowed that smaller shark. And. And so all of a sudden, he has two sharks because this tiger shark was so big, he was like, hey, this thing. Maybe I should take this in to the aquarium bass there in Coogee because it'll be a nice attraction for people to come see it. Like it was still alive and people can come see this dreadful shark swimming around because sharks had been killing people around the area lately. So he thought it was a pretty good idea.
Josh
Yeah. Just over the course of a couple of weeks, three different men were killed by sharks on New South Wales beach. So that was a big deal to catch this shark. That may have been the one, or at least one of the ones. And he was right. Like there were a lot of people that showed up to see this giant shark. I mean, 12ft is pretty, pretty long, right?
Chuck
It's a big shark.
Josh
And those tiger sharks, they're bas too. At any rate, the shark was giving the people what they wanted to see. You know, like he would swim around along the window and just flip the people off. He had a real bad attitude. Exactly what they wanted to see. And he was acting pretty normally. And then on April 25, which was Anzac Day in Australia, which is I taking it as similar to our Memorial Day here in the United States, okay, the shark started acting really weird. Like he started getting lethargic and sluggish like a wet sponge. He seemed disoriented. And then all of a sudden everything came to a head essentially.
Chuck
Yeah. The shark goes, that's usually your part, and pukes up a human arm. So everyone freaks out. They assumed initially, of course, like this is probably an arm of another bather that had bad timing and bad luck. But when they did the medical examination, they were like, this was no tiger shark. No, sorry. I just watched Jaws with Ruby so I had to work a Jaws quote in there.
Josh
Sure. What did Ruby think of?
Chuck
She liked it. How could you not? I was delighted. She didn't love it, but she liked it. Like she hung in there through the whole thing.
Josh
Was that a happy birthday treat for her to watch Jaws?
Chuck
That's right. Happy birthday to both of you in real time.
Josh
Thank you. Happy birthday to Ruby.
Chuck
We did all our private birthday stuff and Ruby sent you a video and you sent her one, which is very sweet.
Josh
It was very sweet.
Chuck
I imagine we'll do that for the rest of our lives.
Josh
Yeah.
Chuck
So at any rate, back to the autopsy. Not some half assed shark autopsy, but an autopsy on this arm. They were like, this was not a shark biting this arm off. Like this thing was cut off with something sharp. It wasn't shark teeth and it was not surgery either. So I think we have a murder on our hands. And again with Jaws, they were like, whatever that shark ate is bound to still be in there. And this arm was in there fairly well preserved, like you could see a tattoo of a couple of boxers about to go at it. They put it out in the newspaper and a guy named Edwin Smith was like, I think that might be my brother's arm. He had this tattoo and he's been gone missing for a few weeks. And the cops were like all right. They were able to get fingerprints and they were like yep, bing bing. We have a winner. That is Jim Smith's arm.
Josh
Yeah. I say that we take a break here and come back and talk about Jim Smith a little bit.
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Josh
So Chuck, we're back and Jim Smith has just been confirmed to be the owner of the arm. But the rest of Jim Smith has not been found. So the cops are approaching this now as a murder. They start looking into Jim Smith's background. They find out that he was a builder but he was bankrupt. He also made some money on the side working basically in the underworld. He was a boxer, he was a bookmaker. He also turned out to be a smuggler as we'll see. And this was also at a time the 1930s in Sydney. It was like gangland apparently, there was open gang war in the street for control of Sydney's underworld. It was just that lucrative. Right. So I get the impression that if you were bankrupt, you could always turn to Sydney's world of crime and start making some money, too. And Jim Smith had done that?
Chuck
Yeah, sounds like it. So investigators found out that his last known whereabouts were he was drinking with his friend Patrick Brady at a hotel in, I want to say Cranula, but it might be Cronula. Like, I don't know, maybe an Aussie will tell us.
Josh
When you said Koji beach, it just dawned on me that, like, we hadn't looked at the pronunciations and, like, that cartoon sweat, like, jumped off of my forehead.
Chuck
I think it's a coogee because it's two O's, but that might not be right either. But it could be coogy. Aussies love us, so, yeah, it could be coogee. Actually, we'll hear. I can't wait. We'll talk about it later in a listener mail.
Josh
Okay.
Chuck
We're looking forward to all the Aussie pronunciations coming back to us.
Josh
I think it's Coogee because there's the Coogee Beach Sundae Outback Steakhouse.
Chuck
I don't want to believe you.
Josh
I could see it, though. I mean, that's definitely possible for sure.
Chuck
So Brady, his buddy that he was drinking with, he was also sort of a bad guy. He was an expert forger, and the cops knew about him. And there was a cab driver there that had some pretty key information, which was on the morning after Jim Smith had last been seen drinking with his friend. His friend Brady had hailed this cab that said, take me to North Sydney and pull up outside this house and wait for me. And that house turned out to be the house of a guy named Reginald Lloyd Holmes, who was, as far as everyone knew, generally a respectable boat builder. He had a boat building business. But on the other side of the coin, he was also, like you said, a smuggler. He apparently had a thing where he would build these speedboats and he would drive around Sydney harbor and pick up discarded contraband. I guess when the noose was tightening on real smugglers, they would dump, like, cocaine and cigarettes and other contraband, and he would drive around and. Or his guys would drive around and pick this stuff up. And I think Brady and Smith were some of these guys at times, or at least Smith was.
Josh
Yeah, Smith definitely was. And I think these were actually like. This was like. These were planned rendezvous. That's just how they transferred the cargo.
Chuck
Oh, I thought it was like they were in trouble so they would dump their load.
Josh
I don't know. I don't know. It hadn't occurred to me that they dumped their load.
Chuck
Yeah, just keep going.
Josh
So either way, that's how he made his money. And again, like he was picking up cocaine. In the 30s, that was a huge, huge business in Sydney. Everybody and their brother and their mother and their little sister was on cocaine constantly in Sydney. At any rate, it was shown that Jim Smith worked for Reginald Holmes. And now with this cab driver coming forward, they had the last man to be seen with Jim Smith while Jim Smith was alive. Taking a cab and acting very cagey, as the cab driver would, would later testify to Reginald Holmes house. And Reginald Holmes was connected to Jim Smith. So now Jim Smith's arm seems really, really connected to Reginald Holmes and Patrick Brady.
Chuck
That's right. So it turns out that Smith and Holmes had a falling out over an insurance scam. And there was the idea that Smith was blackmailing Holmes was like, hey, you're a respectable boat builder, so you don't want this to get out kind of thing. And that cab ride was linked to, you know, the murder in Holmes at that point. So cops got on this theory that Brady had murdered Smith, cut his arm off, like he was directed to murder Smith because of the blackmail thing by Holmes. Brought it to Holmes. It's like, hey, this guy's dead. You thought I'd bring a finger. This is Sidney. Here's his arm. So that was the idea. At least Holmes had an explanation. Was that Brady brought it to him as like he was gonna extort Holmes and was like, hey, I just like killed this guy and here's an arm, like, I really mean business, so you gotta pay up. The arm obviously was later just thrown back in the ocean and the shark ate it. The rest of the body, everyone presumes, was just like weighted and sunk probably.
Josh
Yeah. It didn't ever come back up. The arm came back up. Right, right. Thanks to our shark friend. The problem is, you could put all this stuff together. It painted a pretty convincing picture, I guess, of Brady and Holmes involvement in the disappearance and probable murder of Jim Smith. But it was all circumstantial. So as any cop from the 30s in Sydney could tell you, you need a confession. This isn't like Chinatown, this is Sydney, 1930s. We need confessions. We can't convict people on circumstantial evidence. So they started to turn up the heat on those two.
Chuck
That's right. They arrest Brady, take him to the police station, they bring Holmes in. He's like, I don't even know this Brady guy. And everything kind of stalled out basically because they, you know, nobody was confessing anything until May 20th. And this is when Holmes leaves in a speedboat out into the harbor and pulls out a gun to try and kill himself. And he fails at that. But when he falls into the water, his where he, he might have drowned at that point, but a rope catches his arm and stops him from drowning. Being plunged in that cold water, I guess like, you know, revived him and he gets back on board. Police are on the scene at this point and there is a four hour boat chase through Sydney harbor until finally Holmes is like, all right, like you got me, I'm done.
Josh
I'm bored with riding around on my boat.
Chuck
Yeah.
Josh
So that's fairly suspicious behavior. And the cops took it that way too. When they arrested Holmes, he said, you know what, I'm just going to give in entirely here. I'm going to testify against Patrick Brady. He was the one who killed Jim Smith. I'm your guy. I'm going to be a great witness. How about you just let me go take a little drive in my car for a little while. I got to clear my head. And Holmes head was cleared for him. Actually his chest was. Because he was found shortly after that dead in his car with three gunshot wounds to the chest.
Chuck
That's right. So now that Holmes is dead, basically the whole case against Brady falls apart. Because that was, you know, the key link. This cab driver, like they had that testimony but that wasn't enough to, you know, to convict anybody. So it did, I think, go to trial, but it was a pretty quick trial. And the judge was basically like, you know, we can't do anything but acquit at this point. Cause all we have is circumstantial evidence.
Josh
Right.
Chuck
So you'd think it might be over at this point, but it's not. Because it turns out that Smith had been a police informant or what they called a fizzer or a fizzgig, I guess in Sydney at that time. And he had informed on a guy named Eddie Wayman. And it looks like Wayman turned out to be the trigger man because he had gotten ratted out basically by Smith.
Josh
That was a theory for sure. An author named Alex Cassels advanced that theory because Eddie Weyman was definitely the kind of person to do that. He was a very dangerous person in the Sydney underworld at a time when the Sydney underworld was basically nothing but dangerous people. That's possible. Because remember here, like, we have no idea still to this day who killed Holmes. It was possibly Brady, because he was certainly the one to gain the most from it, but we just don't know.
Chuck
David's in the cocaine business too, so there were probably all kinds of people that wanted him dead.
Josh
Right. And he had shown that he was willing to talk to cops. Right. And since Jim Smith had shown that he was willing to talk to cops by ratting out Eddie Wayman, another theory is that both of them were just rubbed out as, you know, part of the normal business of gangland Sydneys Sydney in the 1930s. Right. That they were just stool pigeons who were both murdered. And it just so happened that those murders were wrapped up into this shark arm murder caper.
Chuck
That's right. But there's still one more theory. And this came from Atlas Obscura. I don't know if they made it up or whatever, but it was on their website at least. But in their article they said they think they pulled a Fletch or Holmes. Did they think Holmes hired a hitman to kill him in a weird, like, suicide to. To get rid of him and spare his family the scandal of him being this big criminal and to get some clean insurance money that they could collect upon his death?
Josh
Yeah. Is that what Fletch does in Confess? Fletch?
Chuck
No, in the original Fletch, that's what Tim Matheson does. He hires Fletch to kill him.
Josh
I see. I see.
Chuck
I know that you hated Fletch, so you probably don't remember.
Josh
I need to go back if I can stomach it and watch some of the works of Chevy Chase and see if I still dislike him as much. I wonder if I will even more.
Chuck
Yeah, I'm curious.
Josh
All right, I'll let you know how it goes.
Chuck
There were some good ones. There were a handful of really good Chevy Chase movies, in my opinion.
Josh
The one I remember liking the most was Seems Like Old Times.
Chuck
Oh, yeah, well, that's Neil Simon, so.
Josh
Oh, okay.
Chuck
That's Chevy Chase. Even if you hate Chevy Chase, you got a Neil Simon script at the root of that one.
Josh
Speaking of Neil Simon, I watched for you asked me the other week or so ago which movie I've seen the most. And I watched rewatched Murder by Death again. I was like, this one is definitely up there. I've seen Murder by Death a lot and it still holds up every single time I watch it.
Chuck
All right, well, I still haven't seen it. I need to check it out.
Josh
Oh, really?
Chuck
Yeah.
Josh
Okay, well, let me know what you think.
Chuck
I will.
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Josh
Well, in the meantime, Short Stuff's out.
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Release Date: July 29, 2026
Hosts: Josh and Chuck
Theme: A bizarre and infamous 1935 true crime case from Sydney, Australia, involving a human arm found in the belly of a tiger shark – unraveling a tangled web of gangland intrigue, murder, and unsolved mysteries.
Josh and Chuck dive into the strange saga known as the "Shark Arm Murders" – a notorious Sydney crime of the 1930s. Their storytelling unpacks the odd discovery that set off a major murder investigation, the criminal underworld of Sydney at the time, and the myriad theories and unresolved questions that continue to swirl around the case today. The tone is classic SYSK: witty, good-natured, and rich in historical detail.
"The shark goes... and pukes up a human arm. So everyone freaks out. They assumed initially, of course, like this is probably an arm of another bather that had bad timing and bad luck." (Chuck, 03:50)
“He had a boat building business. But on the other side of the coin, he was also, like you said, a smuggler... drive around Sydney harbor and pick up discarded contraband.” (Chuck, 09:44)
“That was the idea. At least Holmes had an explanation. Was that Brady brought it to him as like he was gonna extort Holmes...” (Chuck, 12:20)
“There is a four hour boat chase through Sydney harbor until finally Holmes is like, all right, like you got me, I'm done.” (Chuck, 14:07)
“But there's still one more theory... Holmes hired a hitman to kill him in a weird, like, suicide to... spare his family the scandal... and to get some clean insurance money that they could collect upon his death.” (Chuck, 16:43)
This episode masterfully blends true crime with quirky delivery and historical context, bringing alive a wild chapter from Australia’s criminal past. Despite the case remaining officially unsolved, Josh and Chuck highlight its tangled web of intrigue and memorable cast — both criminal and piscine.
If you haven’t listened, this summary gives you the essentials—and enough twists—to follow the wild, still-unsolved “Shark Arm Murders” saga from start to finish.