Chuck (2:36)

Am.

Josh (2:36)

I'm 13 years old. And they say, well, that's just how we say things. And then the stranger calls the police, trace the call, and then call back and say, you've gotta get out of there. The call is coming from inside the house. I know. It's genuinely scary to think about, obviously. And then once she is out, the. And the prowler has murdered those kids upstairs already.

Chuck (3:02)

Yep. And one of the things that makes it so creepy, too, is that when this, you know, was passed around, this urban legend, like, you couldn't really call your own phone number.

Josh (3:17)

Yeah.

Chuck (3:18)

And if you had two lines in the house, maybe only the richest of your friends had two lines in their house. There's a whole urban legend surrounding how you could call your own line if you did certain things. That's neither here nor there, it turns out. But the fact that it's coming from inside the house means that it's the last place you'd expect somebody to be calling from. Which made it even scarier for the viewer who had no idea. Or the listener, I guess, for the urban legend, who had no idea what was coming. Yeah.

Josh (3:49)

And you know what? I remember hearing these stories, like, around the campfire kind of thing, and it terrified me. And it never dawned on me that that was a near impossibility.

Chuck (3:59)

Yeah. Did you have that little legends that it was like you could do something, you know, like tap thing, tap, like the receiver or whatever, to call your own line, or was it just like you just can't do that?

Josh (4:11)

I don't remember hearing any of those. But I do know they existed because you sent them to me.

Chuck (4:17)

That's right. But, yeah. So the fact that it was coming from inside the house when you were. It's really not supposed to have been able to happen. Just made it that much scarier. And it makes it a little harder to understand or grasp in the age of cell phones, where you can call somebody from inside the house, like it's entirely possible the call was coming from inside the house. Yeah.

Josh (4:38)

And it's. It goes along with some of the great scary legends of the day. Like the hook, the vanishing hitchhiker was another one. I remember. Drip Drop Maniac. Do you remember that one?

Chuck (4:51)

No. Did he say we cause holes in teeth? No, no.

Josh (4:58)

Drip Drop Maniac was some version of a thing where there's, like, a German shepherd that sleeps under the bed that, you know, the kid was scared. And the reason and the way they would not be scared is they would put their hand down and the German shepherd would lick their hand. And so I'm sure you see what's it turns out the German shepherd, they hear drip, drip, drip. And the German shepherd is like killed and dripping blood on the floor. And the person there was a dude under the bed licking the person's hand.

Chuck (5:27)

Oh crazy. That was a good one. Yeah. Drip drop.

Josh (5:30)

Maniac.

Chuck (5:31)

Nice. Yeah.

Josh (5:32)

Terrifying.

Chuck (5:33)

You want to take a break so I can kind of recollect myself after that terrifying story?

Josh (5:38)

You're never going to hang your hand off the side of the bed again, are you?

Chuck (5:41)

Oh, I don't already. Okay.

Josh (5:43)

Yeah.

Chuck (5:44)

We'll be right back.

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Josh (8:14)

I'm still laughing by the way are you? You got to be under the sheets and stuff still. Yeah, I got over that at some point. I used to be like that in like, well into even my 30s. I think I was probably in my 30s or 40s when I was finally like, you know what? I'm a hot sleeper. I'm just gonna brave whatever's out there and sleep on top of the sheets.

Chuck (8:33)

Good for you, man. Yeah, I've gotten better in my older age. But if I'm watching like a particularly a good ghost movie. Horror movie.

Josh (8:42)

Oh, sure. Yes.

Chuck (8:43)

At night. And Yumi and Momo have already gone to bed when I have to turn out all the lights, I will basically run down the hall to the bedroom. Yeah, yeah. I try not to and I just can't not.

Josh (8:57)

No, I'm with you. If it's something like that and I'm truly scared by a movie and I'm up late by myself, the getting back to the bed scene is truly ridiculous for a 54 year old man.

Chuck (9:08)

I'm also one of those people who, if you jump out and scare him, I go up like both feet off of the ground and make like a sound kind of thing like, you can really get me if you get me.

Josh (9:20)

Yeah. I used to scare people like that on occasion. And I finally learned that that's just not cool to do.

Chuck (9:25)

Oh, I think it's great after like about 30 seconds afterward. I think it's hilarious and wonderful, but it takes me a second. Oh.

Josh (9:33)

Oh, gosh. Do we have time? Yes, very quickly. In college, after we saw the movie Misery, my roommates and I at the Dollar Theater, the Alps theater in Athens, Georgia.

Chuck (9:41)

Oh, yeah.

Josh (9:43)

We had ridden separately and my one roommate and I, Chris, raced home and he was a real sick. Twist was like, let's scare Eddie, you know Eddie, Because Eddie was right behind us. And Chris went home and unscrewed all the light bulbs in the main room and we hid in the closet. And Eddie, Eddie came in, turned on the lights, no lights came on. And he was like, yeah, you guys are pretty funny. And smartly turned on the television to provide some light. And you know how when you're like hiding in a closet and it's just barely cracked, you see people kind of looking in at you, but they're not focused on you because they can't see you. That was Eddie. He was coming closer and closer. And we jumped out of the closet and got him pretty good. I think he knocked a frame picture off the wall and broke it.

Chuck (10:28)

You had framed pictures on your wall in College, you know, that's impressive. Yeah. Have I ever told you my being scared from the closet story? No. I was just sitting there in my room. I was probably like 14 or something. I was just reading in bed and I noticed that the closet door was cracked just a little bit, which was unusual. I didn't usually do that. And I even made like a little joke to myself like, oh, probably something in the closet. And I looked over a minute or two later and the door was open further than it had been.

Josh (11:00)

Oh God.

Chuck (11:01)

And I just immediately jumped up and started running for the door. Like, I didn't go to look. I didn't say like, oh, that's weird. I immediately jumped up. Right. I would totally survive a horror movie. And my dad came barreling out of the closet like, rawr. And I just basically flipped on my back like a turtle and started screaming. Oh, man. Even after he was like standing over me like, are you okay? I was just looking at him. I couldn't stop screaming. My mom had time to make it upstairs and into my room and say, what'd you do to him? And I'm looking at them like talking, screaming, still on my back like he got me that good. Like he definitely shortened my life.

Josh (11:43)

Poor guy. I feel so bad for you. That is certainly not something a dad.

Chuck (11:47)

Should do to their kids. Yeah, exactly.

Josh (11:50)

All right, so we're back and we're going to tell possibly what inspired this real story. I got this particular version from Chrissy Stockton that I mentioned from Thought catalog, but I looked it up and it was in plenty of other places.

Chuck (12:03)

This is where it turns pretty dark.

Josh (12:05)

Yeah, it goes very dark. So if you have kids listening, they may want to tune out. In the 1950s. In fact, March of 1950, there was a young 13 year old named Janet Christman hired to babysit a 3 year old for the Romax. Mr. Gregory Romac and his wife. Just like with our live show, I couldn't find his wife's name because they didn't print stuff like that back then. But she decided to babysit rather than go to a school party. At 7:30 she got to their house, this is in Columbia, Missouri. And before they left for the night, Mr. Romac said, hey, by the way, see this shotgun? I've got this shotgun and it's loaded. And here's how you shoot it.

Chuck (12:49)

Yeah. 13 year old girl in Missouri.

Josh (12:52)

Yeah, I guess. I mean 1950 is going to 1950.

Chuck (12:55)

1950, Missouri. I could see that being pretty standard procedure.

Josh (12:59)

Yeah.

Chuck (13:00)

He also very wisely said, do not open this door until you at least turn on the porch light to see who it is knocking on the door. Right, right. So you would think that little Janet was probably going to be just fine. I mean, it was probably going to be an uneventful night anyway. But she had also been equipped with a shotgun by the people she was babysitting for. The thing that gets me is that she had chosen to babysit rather than go to a school party because she had recently bought a dress on installment and needed the money to pay for her dress like a responsible little 13 year old. So she shouldn't have even been there. I think at some point around 10:30, the police in her town got a call from a girl just shouting, come quick. And then the line suddenly was cut off. The police didn't have anything like tracing calls or anything like that at the time. This is 1950 in Missouri. And they had no idea who it was, but it turned out it was Janet, sadly.

Josh (14:03)

That's right. The Romax called the house about 30 minutes later, but no one answered. And I guess they didn't sweat it. Cause they didn't show up until 1:30 in the morning. They weren't like, we should rush home. They opened the front door to find a pretty nasty, grisly murder scene. Janet was dead there in a pool of blood. She had been sexually assaulted and strangled to death. And it appears that she had struggled with her attacker. There was no shotgunning, obviously, but that porch light was, which makes it even sadder.

Chuck (14:36)

Yeah. Yes. And the reason why that porch light seems to be important is that the Romax and Janet's family believed that a man that was known to her was the person who murdered her. A guy named Robert Mueller. He was a friend of Ed Romax, and he also knew Janet because Janet had babysat for Robert Mueller's children before, and he had actually asked her to babysit that night. And she said, I can't. I'm babysitting for the Romax already. And he was an odd duck, to say the least. And enough of a creep, essentially, from how the Romax and Janet's family put it, that he was always suspected by them.

Josh (15:18)

Yeah, for sure. The other detail I didn't mention was that the phone had been ripped from the wall. So that would explain when she shouted, come quick, and the line went dead. It seems, as you know, that was when the phone was ripped away from the wall, possibly by Robert Mueller. Although nobody was ever tied to her death officially. No one was ever arrested, as far as I know.

Chuck (15:38)

No. But there were some reasons why they. They suspected him. One, he apparently had groped Mrs. Romac just a few days before the murder. Mrs. Romac was like, I. I'm not really down with that guy.

Josh (15:50)

Sure.

Chuck (15:51)

He also had told Mr. Romac that he liked Janet, and later on after the murder, he had told Mr. Romac that he could have murdered Janet and then just forgotten about it. So it was some weird stuff. And like, they, yeah, he died in 2006. We'll never know. Janet's murder has never been solved and probably never will at this point.

Josh (16:16)

No. But supposedly that is the story that inspired the Call is Coming in from the House, or at the very least, inspired. When A Stranger Calls was probably the most famous use of the calls coming from inside the house from 1979. Also, Black Christmas, a great, great horror movie. Halloween in 1978, and I'll even Throw Scream had a sort of version of this with Drew Barrymore, but not exactly coming from inside the house.

Chuck (16:46)

No. I saw the first instance of it on film, though, was a 1973 movie called the Severed Arm. But. But it wasn't like a plot driver. It was just one of the ways a person was murdered. The call was coming from inside, like, I think the studio they were working in.

Josh (17:01)

Yeah. And now cell phones have kind of screwed this whole thing up.

Chuck (17:04)

For sure. For sure. One other thing real quick, though. When a Stranger Calls back, the sequel to When a Stranger Calls, is one of the finest Rift tracks you can see. So you're looking for Rift tracks to start with. Start with.

Josh (17:19)

I'll check it out.

Chuck (17:21)

That's it, I guess, for the trope of the Call coming from inside the house, Right?

Josh (17:25)

That's right. I think it means short stuff is.

Chuck (17:27)

Out first RIP Janet Christman for sure. Now Short stuff is Out.

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