SYSK’s Summer Movie Playlist: How Stuntmen (and -women) Work

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Detailed Summary of "SYSK’s Summer Movie Playlist: How Stuntmen (and -women) Work"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Stuff You Should Know
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Episode: SYSK’s Summer Movie Playlist: How Stuntmen (and -women) Work
• Release Date: June 27, 2025

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1. Introduction to Stunt Work

The episode kicks off with hosts Josh Clark and Charles W. ("Chuck") Bryant delving into the intricate world of stunt performers. Josh introduces the topic with enthusiasm, hinting at the behind-the-scenes efforts that make movie stunts appear seamless and exciting.

Notable Quote:

• Josh Clark [01:35]: "I think your socks are going to be knocked off by how hard these people work."

2. History and Evolution of Stunt Performers

Josh and Chuck trace the origins of stunt work back to the early days of motion pictures, emphasizing that stunt performers have been integral to filmmaking almost since its inception. They highlight that before the establishment of dedicated stunt professionals, roles like riding horses or performing dangerous feats were often handled by versatile performers, including comedians.

Notable Quote:

• Jerry [05:28]: "There wasn't much of a need for them before then. I mean, maybe for like a show or something like that."

3. Recognition and Awards for Stuntpeople

The conversation shifts to the recognition stunt performers receive within the industry. The hosts lament the absence of a dedicated category for stuntpeople at prestigious award ceremonies like the Oscars, noting that while organizations like the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences acknowledge their work, formal awards remain limited. They mention the Taurus World Stunt Awards as a significant platform, despite its intermittent history.

Notable Quote:

• Josh Clark [04:18]: "They don't have a category for stunt people. Never have."

4. The Craft of Stunt Performing: Techniques and Safety

Josh and Chuck delve into the technical aspects of stunt work, discussing various techniques such as squibs for simulating gunshots and the use of airbags and bungee systems for falls. They emphasize the meticulous planning and safety measures that underpin each stunt to ensure performers remain unharmed.

Notable Quotes:

• Jerry [24:22]: "They are trained to fall. They are trained to, you know, safely fall."
• Josh Clark [24:45]: "And so the plate in between the squib and your chest protects you."

5. The Challenges of the Stunt Profession

The hosts shed light on the precarious nature of stunt work, where performers often face long hours, high risks, and the constant need for specialized skills. They discuss the financial uncertainties within the profession, noting that many stuntpeople pursue it out of passion rather than substantial financial gain.

Notable Quote:

• Jerry [17:55]: "But you'd have to love your work to do this."

6. Pathways to Becoming a Stuntperson

Josh and Chuck outline the typical pathways into stunt performing, emphasizing the importance of building connections within the industry. They suggest starting as a production assistant (PA) on sets to network with stunt coordinators and highlight the value of specialized training through stunt schools.

Notable Quote:

• Jerry [37:02]: "There is no degree. You can get a film degree, but come on, that's wasted money."

7. Notable Stunt Performers and Their Contributions

The episode features anecdotes about renowned stunt performers and actors known for doing their own stunts. Names like Tom Cruise, Jackie Chan, and Zoe Bell are mentioned, illustrating how some celebrities integrate stunt work into their acting careers, enhancing the authenticity of their performances.

Notable Quotes:

• Jerry [39:58]: "People like Jason Statham, famous for doing his own stunts."
• Josh Clark [40:13]: "It's like she's sliding still across the hood."

8. Anecdotes and Examples of Stunts

The hosts share vivid stories of famous stunts, such as the chariot race in "Ben-Hur" performed by Joe Canut and Burt Reynolds' dangerous falls in movies like "Hooper." These stories underscore the bravery and skill required to execute complex and high-risk stunts successfully.

Notable Quotes:

• Josh Clark [41:24]: "That's awesome. It was in the movie. But that was a real thing."
• Jerry [29:57]: "Stuntmen... They're actually really sensible because they want to work and earn money."

9. The Role of Technology in Modern Stunts

Discussing the impact of technology, Josh and Chuck explore how CGI has transformed stunt work, sometimes replacing practical effects but also presenting new avenues for creativity. They debate the effectiveness of CGI versus real stunts, referencing movies like "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" and praising filmmakers who still prioritize practical effects.

Notable Quotes:

• Josh Clark [09:37]: "There's always going to be room for stunt people."
• Jerry [26:16]: "They've got some of the nastiest squibs Hollywood has seen in years."

10. Safety Protocols and Tragic Incidents

The discussion touches on the critical importance of safety on set, highlighting tragic incidents like Brandon Lee's accidental death due to a mishandled prop gun. The hosts emphasize stringent safety measures and the responsibility of assistant directors to ensure a secure working environment.

Notable Quotes:

• Jerry [14:58]: "So you should never mess around with blanks."
• Josh Clark [28:15]: "They thought he was still acting and continued to roll cameras for a bit afterward."

11. Concluding Thoughts on the Stunt Profession

In wrapping up, Josh and Chuck reflect on the unsung heroes behind the action scenes, appreciating the dedication and expertise stunt performers bring to the film industry. They acknowledge the blend of artistry and technical skill required, celebrating the craftsmanship that makes cinematic illusions believable and thrilling.

Notable Quote:

• Jerry [30:29]: "Stuntmen ... are actually really sensible because they want to work and earn money, so they want to be really, really sure that no one gets hurt."

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Overall Insights: The episode provides an in-depth exploration of the world of stunt performers, highlighting their essential role in filmmaking, the evolution of their craft, and the challenges they face. Through engaging anecdotes and expert discussions, Josh and Chuck offer listeners a comprehensive understanding of how stuntmen and stuntwomen work to create the spectacular action sequences that define modern cinema.

Transcript

[Josh Clark]

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[Josh Clark]

Hi everybody. Back to the stuff you should know summer movie playlist. And this one is from January 2013. It's our how stuntmen and women work episode. I think your socks are going to be knocked off by how hard these people work. For our movie viewing enjoyment. You enjoy too.

[Jerry]

Welcome to Stuff youf should know from howstuffworks.com.

[Josh Clark]

Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. And this is stuff you should know.

[Jerry]

Well, Jerry had an itchy trigger finger today. Did you hear in there?

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, she's ready to go home.

[Jerry]

Yeah. She's like, come on. Three, two, one, go.

[Josh Clark]

You guys aren't my entire life.

[Jerry]

I know we like to think we are, but that is, we're like 0.1% of Jerry's life. Yeah, she's giggling in there. She's quite the adventurer.

[Josh Clark]

How you doing, man?

[Jerry]

I'm great, man. I'm ready to jump from a tall building or Roll a brand new car, man. Sorry.

[Josh Clark]

That's what I was gonna ask you. So I guess you did the intro for us.

[Jerry]

Go ahead. Let's pretend like that didn't happen.

[Josh Clark]

No, it's fine.

[Jerry]

Okay.

[Josh Clark]

You were just doing what? The theme from the Fall Guy starring Lee Majors, 1980s awesome TV show with probably the best truck ever featured in a TV show.

[Jerry]

There. That gmc, man, that thing is sweet.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

You know, dudes, recreate that truck if you. If you Google it. There's a lot of guys that have, like, made that truck for themselves.

[Josh Clark]

For good reason, too. It's a cool truck.

[Jerry]

Yeah. And it's interesting that the Fall guy points out a couple of the show itself. Points out a very important things as far as stuntmen go. One is that he had to moonlight as a bounty hunter.

[Josh Clark]

Mm.

[Jerry]

And that's kind of one of the things we'll learn, is that there's not a lot of work out there to go around, you know, like, it's tough to make it as a stuntman.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. You get punched.

[Jerry]

And B, he's. If you look at the lyrics to that theme song, man, he is really salty about not getting the glory and the girls.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, Mainly the girls and the glory. When he winds up in the. Hey, it's only hey, hey, hey.

[Jerry]

So the song complains about not getting glory or women. And that is one of the hallmarks, though, of the stunt person, is to remain anonymous and to be bitter about it, I guess. So very few stunt people you've ever heard of.

[Josh Clark]

Well, yeah, the Academy of Arts and Sciences, they give out the Academy Awards.

[Jerry]

Motion picture arts and Sciences. Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

They don't have a category for stunt people.

[Jerry]

Nope.

[Josh Clark]

Never have. And the reason some people give is because they like to maintain the anonymity. The illusion.

[Jerry]

Sure.

[Josh Clark]

That's provided by stunt people filling in as doubles for stars.

[Jerry]

Yeah. But you can win a. What's the award?

[Josh Clark]

You can win an Emmy for Best stunt coordinator.

[Jerry]

True. Or the Stunt Award. They have their own stunt awards.

[Josh Clark]

Oh, yeah. The Taurus World Stunt Awards.

[Jerry]

Yeah. You can win a Tory.

[Josh Clark]

They took a. They took a hiatus. I saw that there was 2010 and they're having stuff for 2012. Couldn't find anything about it. 2011.

[Jerry]

Really?

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. So if you know what happened to the Taurus World stunt awards for 2011, we are curious.

[Jerry]

Interesting.

[Josh Clark]

Let us know.

[Jerry]

So thanks for listening.

[Josh Clark]

So anyway, let's talk about the history of stunt people. They pretty much have only been around as long as you've had motion pictures, right?

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

There wasn't much of a need for them before then. I mean, maybe for like a show or something like that. Like a Wild Bill Hickok show.

[Jerry]

Oh, I guess I see your point.

[Josh Clark]

Call them stuntmen, but really you kind of want to differentiate because you can also say, all right, so people who ride horses on. Standing up on a horse's back, that's a stunt person, right? A guy who like is in the X Games, does extreme sports. Kids that all the kids are into these days, that's a stunt. These are by technically stunt people. What we're talking about are movie stunt people. And the whole point to their, their craft isn't to like, you know, do a 580 on a bike unless somebody asks them to. What they want to do is create what you would just take for granted. Like, oh, that guy just got clocked, right? No, he didn't actually get clocked. That was a stuntman who knows what he's doing. And that was a carefully choreographed scene that just flew right past you, but your brain still just absorbed it as that man just got punched, even though that didn't really happen.

[Jerry]

That's right. And we will probably slip into the word stuntman here and there instead of stunt people. Of course, there were tons and tons of stunt women, but we'll say stunt persons are stuntmen. And luckily there are women now. Back in the day, they would dress men as women to do stunts many times.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, there was a lot of cross dressing back in the day.

[Jerry]

There was. Until they decided, hey, women are people too. And they can act and do stunts just like guys can.

[Josh Clark]

We can put them in danger just as much as well.

[Jerry]

Exactly.

[Josh Clark]

So there wasn't much call for stunt people for movies before movies, just by definition. Sure, don't be ridiculous. But right out of the gate, when we started making movies, we started needing people to do stunts. And the earliest people who were doing stunts were actually comedians. Slapstick comedians like Buster Keaton had a very famous early stunt.

[Jerry]

Steamboat Bill Jr. Is that what it was in? Yeah, the very famous. You've probably seen it in like, you know, Hollywood Legends of Screen Clips and things like that on amc. Yeah. It is the famous shot where the front facade of a house falls down and on. Well, would have been on Buster Keaton, but he is saved because the attic window or attic door was open. So it just falls all around him. And there was some careful measuring in place because if he would have been off by a few inches, he would have been dead.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, and that was a real thing. Like the earliest Stunts were nothing but the real thing. Like, apparently, if you had, I don't know, somebody hanging from, like, the construction, the skeleton of a steel skyscraper.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

You needed that shot. That's what the guy did.

[Jerry]

Yeah. And they. Ed the grabster, wrote this one, of course. And Ed points out that back in the day, before there were, like, you know, before they called them stuntmen, they were just like, let me go find someone crazy enough to go do this.

[Josh Clark]

Exactly.

[Jerry]

And that guy. That. That guy at craft service looks crazy enough to do it, and let's go see if he wants an extra 20 bucks.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. And he does.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Because back, you know, in 1902, 20 bucks was a lot.

[Jerry]

Sure.

[Josh Clark]

So as the film industry grew and grew early in the 20th century, we went from just nothing but slapstick comedies to things like westerns and action flicks. And all of a sudden, those people who really can ride on the back of a horse standing up became stunt people as well. And as stunts became more and more complex, the idea of having somebody whose job and specialty was to just do the stunt and make it look like the actor the star was doing it started to really develop.

[Jerry]

Yeah. And then flash forward even more. The 60s and 70s is when things really came to their own as far as stunt technology. Developing things like squibs, which we will talk about for gunshots and air rams. Is that what they're called?

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, it's like a. Like a pneumatic lift.

[Jerry]

Yes, pneumatic lift.

[Josh Clark]

It just shoots you up into the air, like with a human cannonball.

[Jerry]

Right.

[Josh Clark]

But, like, so if somebody. If a grenade blows up by somebody.

[Jerry]

And you see the dude fly through.

[Josh Clark]

The air and he was on a ram.

[Jerry]

That's right. And then other things like airbags and. And, you know, more technology with cars with the roll cages, like, it just got more and more complex.

[Josh Clark]

Right.

[Jerry]

And now, of course, you have cgi, which replaces a lot of stunts in.

[Josh Clark]

Many cases, not necessarily to a better effect. Like, all I have to say is Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Where it was like they suddenly cut to drawings of Harrison Ford swinging on a lasso.

[Jerry]

He's famous for doing his own stunts.

[Josh Clark]

Though he didn't do them in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

[Jerry]

Well, that's because he's 89 years old and he would die.

[Josh Clark]

He was awesome in Bruno.

[Jerry]

I didn't see that. Was he. Harrison Ford was in that?

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, for about two seconds.

[Jerry]

Did they do, like, gay jokes to him or something?

[Josh Clark]

They didn't even get that far.

[Jerry]

Okay.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Did he just shut it down?

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, but anyway, so stunts like the. I guess throughout this progression of the field of stunt people, safety's gotten better and better, is what I think we were just trying to say. To the point now where they're not even used. It's cgi.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

But there's. There's always going to be room for stunt people.

[Jerry]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Clark]

And the fact that it's gotten safer is much better. But there's still. There's an element of risk to it, no matter what. As Grabster points out, if a stunt didn't present some sort of risk, there'd be no need for stunt people at all. Actors would do it. Yeah, but the actors can't always do it.

[Jerry]

That's right. And when you want to call in a stunt person is when they either have a specific skill that they're really good at, like fake martial arts, or I mean, real martial arts, but fake hitting and kicking or fake martial arts.

[Josh Clark]

Like Chu Kwong, like stuff you just made up. It's a lot of, like, just front kicks in the air.

[Jerry]

That's what you practice. That's sword fighting, stage combat. Like we've talked about, stuff like that. They are trained to fall. They are trained to, you know, safely fall, I guess I should point out. And it just. Basically, it's a safety factor on one hand, and it's a financial factor on the other, because you can't have your main actor, actress going down with a broken leg for four weeks. So you put your stunt person in there and keep your actor all nice and safe in their trailer.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Or you want to be shooting two things at once. So you have your second unit out there shooting the fast cars whizzing by in the car chase. Then you have your first unit shooting the actor inside the car, driving a lot slower and acting like it's really.

[Josh Clark]

Fast, but shouting and, like, moving the steering wheel back and forth a lot.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Maybe there's somebody rocking the car. What's that called?

[Jerry]

Poor man's process.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

So when you. I guess we should say this. When you're in a car, you either have a camera rig on your car where it's the real car with cameras attached to it.

[Josh Clark]

We've done that.

[Jerry]

Or the car's on a process trailer, which means a lot of these shots you see of someone driving, you're like. They're not even paying attention to the road. It's because the car's sitting on a trailer being pulled by a truck.

[Josh Clark]

Right. Or it's got a little rock to it.

[Jerry]

Little rock to it. Or you do the poor man's processes when the car is not going anywhere.

[Josh Clark]

And you have PAs pushing on the outside.

[Jerry]

Pushing on the outside. Little tricks with lighting to make it look like headlights going by.

[Josh Clark]

We've done that.

[Jerry]

It's really neat in the end to look at a scene that's poor man's process and think, wow, they're really not even moving and it looks so good.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, yeah. See if you can pick it out in the Stuff youf Should Know TV.

[Jerry]

Series, they can probably pick it up.

[Josh Clark]

See? So, yeah, it's financial. It makes sense. Also, one of the other reasons people use stunt people is they come with a set of skills that the average actor doesn't have.

[Jerry]

A particular set of skills.

[Josh Clark]

Exactly. That makes them very dangerous to you. And so you can either hire a stuntman who looks like your star to carry out, like a combat scene, sort.

[Jerry]

Of look like your star, or you.

[Josh Clark]

Can teach your star, spend all this extra money and time training the star to this skill in a crash course. So it just. Most of the time, it makes sense to just hire a stunt person.

[Jerry]

Yeah. And, you know, chances are these days you're gonna get a mix in a big action movie, you're gonna get a mix of all three. You're gonna get some cgi, you're gonna get some stunt people. And these days you're gonna get real actors doing some of the real fake fighting.

[Josh Clark]

Doesn't Tom Cruise do a lot of his own stunts?

[Jerry]

Yeah, I got a list of actors who prefer to do their own stunts.

[Josh Clark]

I didn't mean to jump the gun.

[Jerry]

No, the Cruise is famous for that.

[Josh Clark]

I was reading this and I was like, I wonder if I would do my own stun. I would say, sure, I want to learn how to sword fight. Teach me. Like, that's something I want to know. And I'm certainly not going to shell out for it myself ever. So let's go ahead and learn now.

[Jerry]

That's a good point. I would do my own stunts.

[Josh Clark]

It depends the heights. No way I would do that.

[Jerry]

I would jump off of something. So California state law, and of course, there's shoot movies all over the place now. And the union rules in Hollywood have really made it pretty safe these days. But you're still gonna find injuries and your occasional death on set, which is really awful.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, well, there always have been, pretty much from the beginning, deaths and injuries.

[Jerry]

Howard Hughes.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. The movie Hell's Angels, which we must have talked about in the Hell's Angels podcast. I'm sure we did, because I Think we talked about the origin of the.

[Jerry]

Name, which is from the air combat.

[Josh Clark]

It was. Yeah, that's what they think.

[Jerry]

The Fighting Hellcat.

[Josh Clark]

I think that was one of the theories. But there were three, maybe four fatalities.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Because they were doing like real dog fights with airplanes and there were a lot of crashes.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

So that was a movie where people died.

[Jerry]

Yes, Very famously, the Twilight Zone. The movie. Jennifer Jason Lee's father, Vic Morrow, and two little Vietnamese kids died when a helicopter crashed into the water where they were crossing a river. That's on YouTube, by the way.

[Josh Clark]

I know, it's pretty awful.

[Jerry]

It is. And I saw it recently because I was just curious. I'd always wondered how it went down in my head because I've heard the story since the movie came out, since I was a kid. And I was wondering, like, exactly what was the logistics and how did that go down?

[Josh Clark]

It's pretty bad to watch it is because it just goes totally out of control.

[Jerry]

It does. So I would not recommend that. But you do have to enter your age, by the way, to watch that video I saw. And on set, the AD is ultimately responsible, the assistant director, for everyone's safety. And in fact, on our own little TV show when we had fake guns on set just as props, like we didn't even use them in the scene. But just to have a fake gun on set, the AD has to announce to the whole crew and show them the gun, say, it's fake, it's not real. Look at the barrel. There's no bullets, there's no nothing. It will not be fired. We will not be shooting blanks or dummy cartridges. And it's just, you know, even on a stupid little silly show like ours, you got to be really careful with that stuff.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. So, Chuck, because of this incredibly high risk profession work, the stunt people must be paid out the yin yang. True or false?

[Jerry]

Well, they make a good rate. But like we said earlier, there's not a ton of work for the amount of stunt people trying to get work. And that was when I used to work out in LA as a pa. I would always try and talk to the stunt people when I worked on jobs where they had stunt people because they're just really interesting to say the least. And they would usually bemoan the fact that there's not a ton of work. And, you know, they're all kind of scrapping for the same piece of cheese. But that's like everyone in the film business.

[Josh Clark]

Sure.

[Jerry]

From crew to the lead actor, you're all. You're all after that same piece of cheese.

[Josh Clark]

Yep. We've worked with some stunt people too.

[Jerry]

Yeah. You'd be surprised when you need to call in a stunt person. I worked on this one commercial where the was just like bad traffic on the highway that the shot was and cars had to just sort of pull over to the side while another car came through. All the cars that pulled over to the side of the road had to have stunt drivers. I was like, I could do that, but then I'd be taking bread off the table of a stunt person.

[Josh Clark]

Right. And then the whole production would shut down.

[Jerry]

That's true.

[Josh Clark]

Okay, so the most stunt people, you say, because there's just so little work for so many people. It's not a high paying job. A lot of people do it for the love of it. Right?

[Jerry]

Yeah. I mean, you can make money if you're experienced and get tons of work, obviously, but.

[Josh Clark]

Right.

[Jerry]

I'd say those are the few and far between.

[Josh Clark]

But you'd have to love it because the hours are usually very, very long.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

To do a stunt is not. You don't just walk up and get in the car and drive it and all of a sudden it flips and there's an explosion. And you're hoping for the best.

[Jerry]

Right.

[Josh Clark]

Like when you see a stunt, these things are rehearsed over and over again. Say for a car chase, they'll go through the entire car chase, but they'll do it at a low speed.

[Jerry]

Right.

[Josh Clark]

So that it's choreographed, rehearsed, and everybody knows what's gonna happen when.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

That takes a very long time. If you need to flip a car, you need to do measurements. The pyrotechnics guys are probably involved.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

There's a lot of standing around, there's a lot of practicing, there's a lot of measuring, there's a lot of talking. And then if for say you're doing something like in. In water, you're probably standing in water the whole time. So you're doing that for 14 hours.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

It sounds like some. You would have to love your work to do this.

[Jerry]

Yeah. It's definitely not a glory job. Especially factoring in the anonymity factor.

[Josh Clark]

Right. When you do all this and you do it absolutely perfectly, no one notices.

[Jerry]

That's the goal.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

In fact, one of my biggest pet peeves is when you do notice and you see that one shot of the dude with a wig on, it's supposed to be Clint Eastwood.

[Josh Clark]

Right?

[Jerry]

Yeah. Just disappointing.

[Josh Clark]

So you were saying the second unit director handles this. The second unit director is in charge of shooting stunts, but the person who's in charge of the stunts themselves is the stunt coordinator.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

And that person hires the stunt people, plans the stunts, oversees the stunts execution, does everything, but actually sets up the camera and all that. Or handles the camera shooting it. Right?

[Jerry]

Yeah. It's basically, it's like a film crew is broken up into many departments and that's just sort of its own little department headed by the coordinator.

[Josh Clark]

Gotcha.

[Jerry]

Like they'll have a budget to work with and all that kind of stuff. Just like any other department.

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[Josh Clark]

So let's talk about how they do some stunts.

[Jerry]

Okay. And actually the second unit director a lot of times is a former stunt person or stunt coordinator.

[Josh Clark]

Right. That makes sense.

[Jerry]

Comes in handy.

[Josh Clark]

Sure.

[Jerry]

Let's talk about stunts without fire.

[Josh Clark]

How about punches?

[Jerry]

How about them? Stage fighting man. Something we have not learned yet.

[Josh Clark]

That's pretty much a must if you want to become a stuntman. That's lesson one is go take stage fighting courses.

[Jerry]

Yep. Learn how to sell a punch as the giver and as the receiver without looking corny and hokey and fake. Like pro wrestling.

[Josh Clark]

Right. But it's very much similar to pro wrestling, especially if you've ever seen somebody throw a punch in pro wrestling and you can hear the skin slap.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

That's because that person was actually just punched.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

The key is they weren't punched very hard. Certainly not as hard as their. The jerk of their head would. Would say.

[Jerry]

Yeah. And you suggest you got camera angles and you've got sound effects. And through the art of movie magic, it looks like a good knockdown drag out brawl.

[Josh Clark]

Right. And if you got it like a really good stunt coordinator, there'll be like a punch that's sold. And the person who's being punched is on a ramp. So they fly through the air afterward.

[Jerry]

Yeah, that's awesome. All right. Gunshots. We talked about squibs. A squib is basically, you're gonna have a chest metal chest plate with a squib on the front of it to protect your body. And it's basically a little blood packet that's rigged electronically to explode when it's supposed to.

[Josh Clark]

And so the plate in between the squib and your chest protects you.

[Jerry]

Sure.

[Josh Clark]

And maybe you are in charge of. You. The stuntman are in charge. You have a little button.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Maybe to explode the charge or there's somebody else doing it remotely. And it. It's pretty awesome. Releases theater blood, opens a hole in the shirt.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Pretty awesome.

[Jerry]

It is very awesome.

[Josh Clark]

This. I didn't realize, though, how they make bullet holes in, like. Like a wall. Like a stucco wall.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

I thought this was pretty ingenious. They drill the hole ahead of time, and then they cover it up with, like, putty or paper or something and paint with a squib in there.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

And they blow that squib out, and it makes a bullet hole.

[Jerry]

It's pretty cool.

[Josh Clark]

It's ingenious. It's simple, it seems like, but it's very ingenious.

[Jerry]

Well, especially when you watch a movie, ideally, you're getting lost in the movie, not paying attention. But if you watch, like, a John Woo film or something.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

And you see just, like, a wall get riddled with bullets. Just think about all the time it took to set up all those squibs.

[Josh Clark]

And, like, what if the actor trips in the middle of it? You're just like, we have to do it again.

[Jerry]

Yeah. Which is no good. And in fact, big stunts, they go with many, many cameras on stunts that you don't or can't recreate because of either danger or money. And, like, some of these shots have, like, you know, a dozen or more cameras shooting at a time, which makes.

[Josh Clark]

A lot of sense, of course. And Grabster points out that another reason why you don't want to do a big take like that more than once is because every time you do, the danger for the stunt person multiplies.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

And I was like, how? And then I thought, oh, well, doing it more. Right. Your chances of injury are increased the more you carry out, the more times you carry out a dangerous act. So that's how it multiplies.

[Jerry]

Getting back to squibs, these days, a lot of directors are opting for CGI blood and bullet wounds, but supposedly Quentin Tarantino and this is out by the time this comes out. Django and Jane, man, I Can't wait to see it. Supposedly he had 100% real squibs. And the blood, like they're supposed to be the bloodiest, nastiest squibs that Hollywood has seen in years.

[Josh Clark]

Is that right?

[Jerry]

Yeah, it's supposed to be pretty awesome. Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Have you seen Machete? Yeah, that was pretty bloody.

[Jerry]

Yeah, that was bad though. I didn't like it.

[Josh Clark]

I agree it was, but it was still pretty bloody.

[Jerry]

They also blanks. If you are firing a gun on set, it is probably a blank.

[Josh Clark]

You would hope.

[Jerry]

So it's not the same as a dummy cartridge. No, a blank actually fires gunpowder. Has gunpowder and fires what's called a wad. It's like paper or wood or plastic and. But it does not obviously have shot or bullet.

[Josh Clark]

No, but there. Sometimes when the bullet explodes, bits of metal can end up being shot out as well. Yeah, that's how Brandon Lee died when they were filming the crowd.

[Jerry]

Yeah, his was actually an accident. There was a bullet lodged in the barrel that they didn't know about.

[Josh Clark]

What I thought. Okay, well then I'm thinking of somebody else who like was messing around with a gun.

[Jerry]

That was. Man, I can't remember his name.

[Josh Clark]

Put it to his head.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Pulled the trigger and like the water, like the gases or something killed him.

[Jerry]

Yeah, that was. I can't remember his name but it was on a TV show set and he like goofing around. Put it to his head as a joke. So you should never mess around with blanks.

[Josh Clark]

No.

[Jerry]

It's very dangerous still.

[Josh Clark]

No, but there was a bullet in the.

[Jerry]

Yeah, there was a bullet. They got the guns mixed up and there was a real bullet slug lodged in the barrel that they didn't know about. So it fired a blank but it ejected that other thing and Brandon Lee died.

[Josh Clark]

Wow. I didn't know that.

[Jerry]

Yeah, man. It was one of the biggest oops is probably in Hollywood history.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, you know, I guess you could call it that.

[Jerry]

And I think he. They thought he was still acting and continued to roll cameras for a bit afterward even. Yeah, very sad. Tragic. Are we to falling?

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, which you'll do. I won't do.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I'll jump off of stuff. I've always done that.

[Josh Clark]

Well, they use these huge, huge airbags, right?

[Jerry]

Well, back in the day they did. And if you. And if you're doing a fall today, they still will sometimes. But generally these days they have like a bungee type contraption.

[Josh Clark]

I would still demand an airbag.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

They apparently also for shorter falls they'll take some cardboard boxes and they'll cut the sharp corners off.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

And then you jump onto that. Did you do that when you were a kid?

[Jerry]

No, no, no. I always would jump into water.

[Josh Clark]

I would jump like onto the ground, off of like the credenza or whatever. And now I'm like, I wouldn't even do that. That's dangerous.

[Jerry]

Falls used to be the thing. Like I'm sure you remember as a kid, falls were a really big deal for stuntmen. And Dar Robinson, remember that guy?

[Josh Clark]

No.

[Jerry]

He did the Sharky's Machine fall in Atlanta. In the Burt Reynolds movie.

[Josh Clark]

Nope.

[Jerry]

Very famous fall out of the Peachtree Plaza Hotel.

[Josh Clark]

I was up in Toledo at the.

[Jerry]

Time it was released. In Toledo, not in Toledo. Sharkey's machine was. Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Off the. Which hotel?

[Jerry]

He went through a window of the Peachtree Plaza and into. Onto an airbag. And it's just. It was one of the famous early falls, or not early falls, but one of the famous falls.

[Josh Clark]

What floor did he jump out of, man?

[Jerry]

I can't remember.

[Josh Clark]

Was it pretty high?

[Jerry]

Yeah, I mean, it was over. Over like 150ft. Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

That's nuts.

[Jerry]

It's pretty cool.

[Josh Clark]

But see, so imagine planning that stunt how many times they measured everything to figure out where the airbags needed to go. And then they probably supplemented it with additional airbags. And if they loved the guy at all, they did all this.

[Jerry]

Yes. Stuntmen. When you go to talk to one, if you're on set, you'll be disappointed by the fact that they aren't these crazy dudes like you want them to be. They're actually really sensible because they want to work and earn money, so they want to be really, really sure that no one gets hurt. It's a little more boring than you would think talking to them.

[Josh Clark]

Sure.

[Jerry]

But they are a little nuts.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, you'd have to be at least a little. What else, Chuck? Fire. How about fire?

[Jerry]

I just saw Anchorman the other night. Remember when they had the street brawl and the guy on fire just walks by?

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. That's a pretty serious stunt. Like when you are. When you set yourself on fire.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

And there's a lot of safety precautions, but even still, it's. You're on fire whether you like it or not.

[Jerry]

Yeah. You're wearing all kinds of fire protective clothing and fire retardant. And then you're smeared with the flammable gel.

[Josh Clark]

Yep. You have a hood on that protects you as well. And there's an oxygen tank in there. So you're basically just completely wrapped in this Outfit. Yeah, but, yeah, the flammable gel's on and they light you and then film you and you're going. It's always the waving arms and the.

[Jerry]

Kind of looks the same.

[Josh Clark]

And then people run over and put you out with fire extinguisher.

[Jerry]

That's right.

[Josh Clark]

But they time it very closely as well.

[Jerry]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Josh Clark]

Because I think it's kind of like, well, if we go 12 seconds, he actually will catch on fire. So we can shoot for 11.11.5.

[Jerry]

Explosions are a big deal. Obviously, these days there's so many explosions in movies, sometimes they cheat a little bit when what's called a technique called force perspective to make it look like the actor is closer to the explosion. And if there's an explosion, you're probably also going to be propelled with the air ram that we were talking about. It's very. I would call it a Hollywood trope at this point. The explosion and the dudes flying, like 20ft in the air.

[Josh Clark]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was big in Commando.

[Jerry]

Oh, yes.

[Josh Clark]

Weren't there a lot of air rams used in Commando?

[Jerry]

Many more than I can count.

[Josh Clark]

That was such a good movie.

[Jerry]

Car chases and crashes.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, they use rams as well. They may be attached to the car. So if a car needs to flip, you see people like going up on a ramp or whatever.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

And they probably use that if you're just trying to stay on two wheels. But if you're trying to flip, there's usually a ram that pushes the car, pushes it off the ground and it flips. Or if you have one coming out of the rear, it'll make it jump really high.

[Jerry]

Oh, true. Like in Hooper.

[Josh Clark]

I don't know all these movies you're talking about.

[Jerry]

Oh, dude. Hooper was the stuntman movie with Burt Reynolds.

[Josh Clark]

I didn't see it.

[Jerry]

Oh, my God. Hal Needham, very famous stuntman turned director.

[Josh Clark]

Directed founder of the Cannonball Run.

[Jerry]

Well, yeah. And director of the movie the Cannonball Run. And Smokey and the Bandit. And Hooper. Hooper was about an aging stuntman, Burt Reynolds, who was challenged by the up and comer Jan Michael Vincent. And of course, there's the love relationship with Sally Field. She was in that, too. And it was good. It was like the best. It's sort of the best stunt movie ever because it was about stunts.

[Josh Clark]

Huh?

[Jerry]

And he had a rocket car in that one. That was a big rocket car jump. It was the big climax.

[Josh Clark]

I did not see Hooper.

[Jerry]

Oh, dude, you need to see Hooper.

[Josh Clark]

What was I watching back then?

[Jerry]

What were you. You were probably watching TV and stuff, I guess. Yeah, it was a little before your time.

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This episode of Stuff youf Should Know is brought to you by Human Footprint Season 2 on PBS and the PBS app the Emmy nominated series returns to reveal the global impact of Earth's most ingenious and most destructive species, humans.

[Josh Clark]

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[Jerry]

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[Jerry]

And like I said earlier, stunt drivers, it's not all like a lot of the stuff you're going to see on TV is stunt driving. Even though you might not think it's necessary.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. Apparently to just pull off of the highway.

[Jerry]

Sometimes not. How do you become a stuntman, Josh?

[Josh Clark]

Well, apparently, as far as Grabanowski says, you basically have to start off as an extra on the set.

[Jerry]

That's not necessarily true.

[Josh Clark]

Okay. If you wanted. If you want to go from the absolute from zero to stuntman in the slowest way possible and you would start out as an extra on the set, you have to be a member of the Screen Actors Guild in most cases. And when you're hanging around the set, you identify who the second unit director or stunt coordinator is and you hand them your headshot.

[Jerry]

This Ed painted a path to becoming a stunt person that we've kind of laughed at. It is not the only path. But one thing is for sure, to become a stunt person, you need to get to know someone else in that department. And that's really with every film department. If you want to be in wardrobe, you should get a job as a PA and start hanging out with the wardrobe people. If you want to be in makeup, start hanging out with the makeup people. And that's just how it works in Hollywood. There is no degree. You can get a film degree, but come on, that's wasted money. Just go to work on a set. You get to know the people in the department and then start bugging them a little bit when they're not busy. Stunt coordinators are little testy because there's a lot on the line, you know?

[Josh Clark]

Sure.

[Jerry]

So, you know, if you're a new PA on set, don't run over to the stunt coordinator and start bugging them right away. Pick and choose, right your time and.

[Josh Clark]

Then give him your headshot.

[Jerry]

And give him your headshot.

[Josh Clark]

But yeah, what you're saying is that it's apprentice based.

[Jerry]

It is.

[Josh Clark]

Basically, there are schools.

[Jerry]

One recommended driving school, the Rick Seaman Stunt Driving School.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

There's also the International Stunt School.

[Josh Clark]

That sounds pretty serious.

[Jerry]

And this is where you can learn to do some of the stuff. But it's not like you exit with a degree and then show up and say, now I'd like to do stunt work.

[Josh Clark]

Right. All the rest of you are fired. I have a degree from the International Stunt School.

[Jerry]

Grabster points out that you should have a large area of specialty rather than one thing.

[Josh Clark]

I thought that's a very good point.

[Jerry]

Yeah. But that's not necessarily true. I've talked to some stunt dudes that say, eventually you would like to have a wide range of skills, but a good way to get in is to have one really specific skill that you're great at. And you might get that call, like, this guy's good with wire work or water work, or he's a hell of a driver, or a really good motorcycle guy or a great skier. If you're doing like. What was that? For your eyes only.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Was that the one that opened up the big ski chase?

[Josh Clark]

Never say never again?

[Jerry]

No, it's definitely Roger Moore. I think it's for your eyes only. But it helps to have these skills. Like, a lot of stunt people are former motorcycle motocross racers or car enthusiasts or they know how to stand horseback riders. Stand up horseback riding.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

So a lot of them have these skills just. Anyway, and they're like, hey, I can. I've been driving dirt track for 20 years. Might as well make some money.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, film me.

[Jerry]

There's books out there.

[Josh Clark]

Are there?

[Jerry]

So youo Want to Be a Stuntman by Mark Aspit.

[Josh Clark]

Oh, that's a great name for a book like that.

[Jerry]

The Full Burn by Kevin Conley. Fight choreography, the Art of Nonverbal Dialogue by John Kring. And then Hal Needham's biography, Stuntman with an exclamation.

[Josh Clark]

Had to be.

[Jerry]

Had to be.

[Josh Clark]

You said you have a list of actors that do their own stunts.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I think most people know this. People like Jason Statham, famous for doing his own stunts.

[Josh Clark]

I see Zoe Bells on there. I thought she was a stunt person.

[Jerry]

Well, she is. And she was in Death Proof, though, as an actor.

[Josh Clark]

Right.

[Jerry]

And they were like. I guess they include her now because she did that awesome hanging onto the hood scene.

[Josh Clark]

I was watching that earlier, and it is just nuts.

[Jerry]

It's pretty cool.

[Josh Clark]

It's like she's. When she's hanging on, it looks like by belts or whatever.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

And. And then she. But she's kind of sliding still across the hood.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

All it would take is, like, half an inch, and then all of a sudden, she's gone too far and she's off the side of the car. Yeah, that was it.

[Jerry]

She's one of the best in the business, apparently.

[Josh Clark]

Man, that's scary.

[Jerry]

Burt Reynolds used to do a lot of his stunts. In fact, he got injured pretty bad. That led to some bad health problems on set.

[Josh Clark]

Oh, yeah.

[Jerry]

City Heat, the Clint Eastwood movie. Burt Lancaster used to do his own stunts.

[Josh Clark]

He's a tough guy.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Remember the movie Tough Guys? He was in that.

[Jerry]

Yeah, yeah. I don't think we mentioned Ben Hur either. That's one of the famous stunts ever. The chariot race.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. You want to tell them about it?

[Jerry]

Go ahead. What do you got?

[Josh Clark]

Oh, well, there is a stuntman named Joe Canut, and he was doubling for Charlton Heston. And during the chariot race, this big, long, intense race, he falls off the chariot and is about to be run over, but in true stuntman fashion, grabs. It is being dragged.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Josh Clark]

Pulls himself back up and continues on.

[Jerry]

And I think that made it on screen.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, it's in the movie. But that was a real thing. Like, it wasn't a planned stunt. Like, the guy saved his own life.

[Jerry]

That's awesome.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah, it is.

[Jerry]

Harrison Ford. We mentioned, as far as the ladies go, Angelina Jolie and Cameron Diaz, known for doing stunts. Arnie Schwarzenegger and Jackie Chan, of course, is very famous for doing his own stunts. And it makes a difference, man, when you can tell it's Tom Cruise on the side of that mountain.

[Josh Clark]

Man, that was scary. Is that really him?

[Jerry]

Yeah. Emily worked on that shoot on just that segment in Moab, the rock climbing segment. And that's when, famously, Tom Cruise is, like, four hours late and flies in on a helicopter, and, like, the whole crew was waiting around all day for him.

[Josh Clark]

I hadn't heard that.

[Jerry]

And then. Oh, yeah, I mean, famous in my family.

[Josh Clark]

Oh, gotcha.

[Jerry]

Yeah. And now, I guess, famous to the podcast community.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. Tom Cruise is not punctual.

[Jerry]

Well, he wasn't that day.

[Josh Clark]

Wow. Stunts.

[Jerry]

Have you seen Haywire, the Soderbergh movie? Uh, it's about assassins. Basically, it's an action movie. Soderbergh's take on an action movie. But Gina Carano is a former mixed martial artist, and she. She's awesome and does her own stunts.

[Josh Clark]

What's her name?

[Jerry]

Gina Carano.

[Josh Clark]

I don't believe I know her.

[Jerry]

She plays the lead, and she. I think that was her first, like, legit movie.

[Josh Clark]

Oh, gosh.

[Jerry]

Known for mixed martial arts. But, yeah, she does her own stunts, and she's ba.

[Josh Clark]

Haywire.

[Jerry]

Haywire.

[Josh Clark]

I'll check it out.

[Jerry]

I got nothing else.

[Josh Clark]

I don't either.

[Jerry]

Pretty straightforward.

[Josh Clark]

If you want to learn more about stunts, you can type dunce into the How Stuff Works search bar. And I said search bar, which means it's time for listener mail.

[Jerry]

Josh, I'm gonna call this Things We, I guess, say a lot. Oh, no, yeah, like, no, no, no. That's not in there. Everyone says like, though.

[Josh Clark]

I know, but I know people have pointed out here they're like, you guys say like a lot. And I've started to notice. And when I say it, when I hear. Hear the podcast, I don't hear it when I'm saying it, only later on when I can't do anything about it.

[Jerry]

Don't. Don't beat yourself up. Everybody says that. Like, there are articles written in the New Yorker about the use of the word, like, in the 21st century. Okay, so you're part of that crowd. You're no millennial.

[Josh Clark]

I'm not. I'm an aged person. So what's wrong with me today?

[Jerry]

Guys, before I start, I feel like I should get out my adoration of the podcast. Always listen as I'm walking my dog. Chloe keeps me entertained for hours. I love that you guys are still going strong and I'm very thankful. I have comprised a list, however, of words and phrases used most often in the show. Besides obvious ones like Chuck or Josh or Search Bar. Let's hear them in no particular order. Bada Bing, bada boom.

[Josh Clark]

He left off the Bon Jovi.

[Jerry]

She.

[Josh Clark]

Oh, she.

[Jerry]

We'll talk about this later. Or we'll get to that.

[Josh Clark]

And then a lot of times we don't.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I feel like I say that a lot.

[Josh Clark]

I think it's hilarious when we say that we're gonna talk about something later and then we just forget to.

[Jerry]

Yeah, or I say all the time. I think we should point out. And she didn't put that in here, but I'll go ahead and throw my own on there.

[Josh Clark]

Oh, yeah, you do say that.

[Jerry]

I'm making air quotes.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

I E, E G. Yeah, that's one of yours.

[Josh Clark]

So pretentious.

[Jerry]

That's a good band name. That's usually me.

[Josh Clark]

Sure.

[Jerry]

That's Obnoxious Sweat. We just talk about Sweat a lot. Yeah, because of me. That's a stand up guy. I don't remember us saying that a lot. Do you say that a lot? I'm gonna take issue with that one. Catherine on the up and up coa. Of course we say that a lot.

[Josh Clark]

Definitely.

[Jerry]

People always ask it what it means.

[Josh Clark]

We never tell.

[Jerry]

We never tell. And then. Have you seen the movie ironically?

[Josh Clark]

That's about right.

[Jerry]

Yeah. And those are 10 things that we say a lot. And that is. She says she thinks these are great comforts her. And she smiles. And that is Kathryn Phillips.

[Josh Clark]

Thanks a lot, Kathryn. That's pretty cool. Somebody's out there like writing lists of things we say.

[Jerry]

It's nicer to hear people say like, I take comfort in that. Except for the emails. And we get like, you guys always say this.

[Josh Clark]

You say like too much. That's John Travolta taking us to task. What if you want to take us to task? Whether you're John Travolta or anybody else, or you just want to say, hey, here's a list of things I noticed because the podcast or whatever, you can join us on Twitter. Actually, first, before we sign off, let's remind everybody that we're gonna be on the TV again.

[Jerry]

The TV.

[Josh Clark]

Yeah. Saturday night on Science Channel at 10pm will be the premiere of another Stuff youf Should Know episode.

[Jerry]

You can watch us each and every week.

[Josh Clark]

Yep. TV Show Stuff youf Should Know TV.

[Jerry]

Show 10pm or Get it on itunes the following day on Sundays.

[Josh Clark]

That's right, Chuck.

[Jerry]

Just go to itunes and type in stuff you should know and see what comes up.

[Josh Clark]

Alright, so now we'll sign off, right?

[Jerry]

Yep.

[Josh Clark]

You can get in touch with us on Twitter Twitteryskpodcast. You can join us on facebook.com stuffyshouldknow and you can send us a good old fashioned email too. Stuffpodcastdiscovery.com.

[Jerry]

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[Josh Clark]

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[Josh Clark]

This is an iHeart podcast.