The best 'door shoes' and a Labubu explainer

Summary

Podcast Summary: Style-ish Episode – "The Best 'Door Shoes' and a Labubu Explainer"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Style-ish
• Host/Author: Shameless Media
• Description: Style-ish is the podcast for all things fashion, brand, business, and beauty.
• Episode: The Best 'Door Shoes' and a Labubu Explainer
• Release Date: April 29, 2025

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1. Fashion Event Highlights

Discussion of Gigi Hadid's 30th Birthday Celebration

• Participants: Madison Sullivan Thorpe, Annika Joshi Smith, Joanna Fleming
• Timestamp: [00:45] - [02:05]

The hosts begin by discussing recent fashion events, specifically Gigi Hadid's 30th birthday party. Annika shares insights about attending the New York September Market the previous year, highlighting the popularity of Capris during the event.

• Annika Joshi Smith: "The Capri was just like everything." [01:07]
• Joanna Fleming: "I don't know that I'll personally be wearing a Capri. She looked fantastic." [01:20]

Joanna expresses her admiration for Rosie Huntington-Whiteley's all-white look, emphasizing the versatility and style of the Capri trend.

2. Labubu Craze

Introduction to Labubus

• Participants: All Hosts
• Timestamp: [06:25] - [15:00]

The conversation shifts to the rising trend of Labubus, a popular keychain bag charm. Madison introduces Labubus, explaining their design inspired by Nordic mythology and their surge in popularity due to celebrity endorsements and social media buzz.

• Madison Sullivan Thorpe: "Labubus have been described as cute, creepy, scary, quirky..." [06:57]
• Annika Joshi Smith: "Love that recommendation. Mads." [03:28]

The hosts share their experiences unboxing Labubus, discussing their unique appearances and the excitement of potentially owning rare editions.

• Annika Joshi Smith: "Mine looks like Gemini. This is me." [10:37]
• Madison Sullivan Thorpe: "Mine looks a little bit like me when I haven't yet got my coffee..." [10:42]

Madison highlights the economic impact, mentioning that Labubu has doubled its profits in the last year and plans for global expansion in 2025.

• Madison Sullivan Thorpe: "The same BBC article reported Labubu Make a pop. Mar has doubled its profits..." [08:28]

The segment emphasizes the blend of nostalgia and modern design that makes Labubus a sought-after accessory in the fashion world.

3. Door Shoe Trends and Recommendations

Exploring the Concept of Door Shoes

• Participants: Annika Joshi Smith, Madison Sullivan Thorpe, Joanna Fleming
• Timestamp: [15:13] - [20:21]

Joanna introduces the topic of door shoes, inspired by content creator Alison Hope Murray's search for the perfect slip-on shoes to leave by the front door. The hosts discuss their personal preferences and recommendations for comfortable yet stylish door shoes.

• Joanna Fleming: "Basically, it's like a slip-on shoe you can leave by the front door..." [16:06]
• Annikas Joshi Smith: "I have a winter shoe and a summer dual shoe..." [17:42]

Recommendations:

1. Amy Leon Dore Garden Mule: Annika praises their versatility and variety of colors, ideal for quick errands.
2. Ballet Flats: Annika mentions using ballet flats for a more chic option.
3. Archie's Slide: Madison recommends these neutral slides for both comfort and style.
4. Holsters by Australian Brand: Joanna suggests Holsters for their comfort and practicality, suitable for various activities.

• Madison Sullivan Thorpe: "Birkenstock have just launched..." [19:20]
• Joanna Fleming: "Holsters... the most comfy shoes ever." [19:44]

The segment concludes with an invitation for listeners to share their door shoe preferences, fostering community engagement.

4. Impact of US Tariffs on Australian Fashion Brands

Discussion on Recent US Tariffs

• Participants: Annika Joshi Smith, Madison Sullivan Thorpe, Joanna Fleming
• Timestamp: [21:37] - [31:42]

The hosts delve into the significant impact of newly imposed US tariffs on Australian fashion brands. Madison explains that the tariffs, effective from April 5, have disrupted the supply chain, increasing costs for brands and consumers alike.

• Madison Sullivan Thorpe: "Over the last few weeks we've seen a range of industries really outraged..." [21:37]
• Annika Joshi Smith: "There is so much turbulence in our industry right now..." [24:45]

Key Points:

• Economic Impact: Yana, CEO of the Australian Fashion Council, highlights that 97% of Australian fashion brands produce offshore, often in China, where tariffs are higher. This has doubled the cost of goods, making them less competitive in the US market.

  • Yana Statement: "With the tariffs, this dress would now cost well over $200." [22:29]

• Industry Response: Brands are experiencing stress due to unpredictability in tariffs. Immediate responses include inflating prices, pausing shipments, and some brands turning off US shipping altogether.

  • Annika Joshi Smith: "It's just really hard to plan for..." [24:45]

• Community Support: Despite challenges, the Australian fashion community has rallied together through WhatsApp groups and collaborative efforts to navigate the crisis.

  • Annika Joshi Smith: "Brands from Christopher Isber to Wynn Hamlin... all coming together..." [28:21]

• Future Strategies: Emphasis on diversifying markets beyond the US, exploring partnerships in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia, and focusing on supporting the Australian market.

  • Madison Sullivan Thorpe: "It's brought a lot of fashion brands together..." [28:59]

The discussion underscores the resilience of the Australian fashion industry and the importance of community support in times of economic adversity.

5. Opinions, Please: Acne Scar Removal Advice

Listener Question on Acne Scarring

• Participant: Jo (Joanna Fleming)
• Timestamp: [31:42] - [40:17]

In the "Opinions, Please" segment, the hosts address a listener's question about managing adult acne scars. Lara shares her struggles with cystic acne and the resulting scars, seeking professional advice on effective treatments.

• Lara: "My adult acne scars are starting to get me down..." [31:42]

Joanna Fleming's Response:

• Topical Treatments: For discoloration and mild scarring, Joanna recommends retinoids, exfoliating acids, vitamin C, and niacinamide.

  • Joanna Fleming: "Great topicals to use... retinoids, exfoliating acids..." [33:16]

• Professional Modalities: For deeper, atrophic scars like ice pick and boxcar scars, Joanna suggests professional treatments such as:

  • Chemical Peels (TCA Cross): Helps with collagen remodeling.
  • Laser Treatments (CO2, Erbium): Fractionated or ablative lasers for significant improvement.
  • RF Needling and Surgical Subcision: For deeper scar treatment.
  • Fillers and Biostimulators: Temporary solutions like hyaluronic acid-based fillers.
  • Joanna Fleming: "You are very likely to see an improvement, especially with expert guidance." [35:27]

• Home Remedies: Joanna advises against relying solely on home treatments like toothpaste or DIY LED therapies, emphasizing the importance of professional consultation.

  • Joanna Fleming: "Definitely not the one thing that resolves their concerns." [38:19]

Hosts' Personal Reflections:

• Madison Sullivan Thorpe: Shares her personal experience with cystic acne and the emotional impact, highlighting the importance of seeking expert advice.

  • Madison Sullivan Thorpe: "It's about improvement, not the pursuit of perfection." [37:14]

• Annika Joshi Smith: Expresses gratitude for the informative discussion and the accessibility of expert advice through the podcast.

  • Annika Joshi Smith: "I'm like, thank God this is a recording... just have an appointment with Jo." [39:28]

The segment provides comprehensive insights into managing acne scars, blending professional advice with personal experiences to offer support and actionable recommendations for listeners.

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Conclusion

This episode of Style-ish offers a multifaceted exploration of current fashion trends, community-driven movements like Labubus and door shoes, the pressing challenges faced by Australian fashion brands due to US tariffs, and valuable beauty advice on managing acne scars. Through engaging discussions, personal anecdotes, and expert insights, the hosts provide listeners with a rich and informative experience, staying true to the podcast's mission of covering all things fashion, brand, business, and beauty.

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Notable Quotes:

• Madison Sullivan Thorpe: "I think there's a lot of fun things that we're doing and having and it's quite nice not to be so serious." [13:53]
• Joanna Fleming: "Absolutely empathize with you. And it can be very hard to love your skin..." [33:16]
• Annika Joshi Smith: "There is so much turbulence in our industry right now and I think it's invoked a lot of stress and anxiety and fear." [24:45]

Speaker Attribution: All quotes are attributed to the respective speakers as per the transcript timestamps.

Transcript

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Foreign.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

This episode of Stylish is brought to you by uniqlo invest in 100% cashmere for just 129.90. This is stylish, the podcast for all things fashion, brand, business and beauty. My name is Madison Sullivan Thorpe and my co hosts are Arnica Joshi Smith and Joanna Fleming.

[Joanna Fleming]

Hello. Happy Wednesday.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Happy Wednesday, lad. How are we?

[Joanna Fleming]

Not bad. You?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I actually feel good. I'm in my health as well, Thera and I'm drinking every non alcoholic beverage right now. Am I glowing?

[Joanna Fleming]

You are a little bit, yeah.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Always fishing.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Now, Anika, I know you mentioned that you're going in New York soon and I don't know if you guys happen to see the pictures from Gigi Hadid's 30th. Yes. But Bella Hadid spotted in a Capri and I can't help but wonder, wow, how Carrie Bradshaw of me is.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Is the Capri an in a thousand percent?

[Joanna Fleming]

I don't know that I'll personally be wearing a Capri. She looked fucking fantastic. As you would if you were bell hooded. But I don't know for me.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh my God. I literally was in New York September market last year. We were rocking Capris. I'll send you a pic with a little like trench bomber kind of number going on. An open toe got the bunions out. But the Capri was just like everything.

[Joanna Fleming]

Honestly, I'm gonna need to see a visual.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I'll send you a pack. Thanks. The Capri is so in.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I wanna see a picture because as you said, Jo Ballah Hadid in basically anything looks great. But I don't know that 5 foot 3 me needs to be cropped in anything. I'm like, I think the longer something is and more elongated my legs can look, the better.

[Joanna Fleming]

Also was Bradley Cooper in a full length jumpsuit made of velvet.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yes, he was. Yeah, yeah.

[Joanna Fleming]

With a bomber over the top. Interesting fashion choice from him.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

It was a choice.

[Joanna Fleming]

It was a choice.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Gigi looked great. She had a Schiaparelli bodysuit on. I was quite enamoured by her outfit. Random group of people also invited. And Hathaway also there.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I found that interesting. Yeah, I loved Rosie Huntington Whiteley. I loved her all white look, very fresh.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Oh, I didn't say that. Send it to me later.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Will do.

[Joanna Fleming]

All right, well, today we're chatting about the trend of little boo boos which I just found out about. We're going to be talking about door shoes and what they are and the impact of America's tariffs on Australian fashion. And then later we're going to be bringing back opinions, please, with a listener question about acne scar removal. But first, let's jump into the swap. Annika, I'm going to throw to you first, what is happening?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I am off to Australian Fashion Week in two weeks. Oh, my goodness, it's so soon. And then New York shortly after. So I am all about style inspiration right now. And if you guys are not following Georgina down, she is Pia Mance's stylist. And oh, my gosh, Pia Mance is looking like she's a 10 out of 10. But she's already right now looking insane at the moment. Like, I'm actually obsessed with every single look that she has been serving. And it's all thanks to Georgina Down. Georgina Down.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

May I offer you a tidbit on Georgina Down? She actually used to assist Danny, Michelle, who styles? Hayley and Kendall.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Okay. It all makes sense.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

It makes sense, right?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh, isn't that her? That's her.

[Joanna Fleming]

Okay, great.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Fun.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Aussie.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Yeah.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

And we love an Aussie stylist making it big on the worldwide stage.

[Joanna Fleming]

Just based on what I can see on her Instagram profile from stalking for two seconds. Very cool.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So cool.

[Joanna Fleming]

Very cool.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

She is just queen of chic. I think she will be like the next big stylist.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I agree.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah, Love that recommendation. Mads.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Mine's an Instagram account, also an account. It's an account called because of marketing. So anyone I love this account who works in branding or pr or maybe you're just interested. I don't know. You could be an accountant and want to follow it too. They do a weekly wrap up of all of the campaigns that brands are doing that are really clever or interesting. And they'll also do kind of little trend wrap ups, which I love. So it'll be the relationship, relationships and synergies with, say, flowers and designer fashion houses or food and fashion and how we're seeing it evolve from like the Hailey Bieber L1 smoothie. And I just think it's such a great account. It's super digestible. And I think whether you're going in as someone heavily in that space or as I said, you have a totally unrelated job, I think it's really interesting and super palatable. So I love everything that account's doing.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah, a lot of us don't really think about the marketing that goes into stuff. Like unless you work in marketing and content, you really don't appreciate it for what it is.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah, I work in marketing and I'm still a sucker for it. So I'M like a marketer's dream.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I just love it. And this is so off topic, but Jacques Jacquemus. How do we say it? But, like just opening his LA store. And the bananas, the synergy between his brand and bananas. Like, someone talked to me about that. Like, I just love all these kind of moments and how they bring everyday items into the fashion sphere.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah. And the tomato with Louisville.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh, yes.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Like food synergies with a brand. Yeah, fascinating. Anyway, we could spend a whole episode on that. Jo, what have you got for us?

[Joanna Fleming]

Well, I helped my mum to find her Mother of the Bride dress recently.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Oh, she said yes to the dress. She did.

[Joanna Fleming]

She said yes to the dress. I don't even know what's happening with my dress at the moment.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

But what's important is your mum looks great.

[Joanna Fleming]

So we went into Rachel Gilbert a few weeks ago and I highly recommend going into Rachel Gilbert if you're shopping for a Mother of the Bride dress because I feel they really cater to a more mature woman that maybe wants a little bit more coverage. In some areas, the styles just really lean into someone that is maybe in their 60s, like my mom is. So she ended up going with a strapless style, actually, which I didn't expect her to go for. We tried on this beaded top number and she loved it and I thought it looked great. And then she got a little bit more adventurous and we started going into like off the shoulder. And then we ended up in a full strapless.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Here we are, Mum. I'm like, here for this.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah, it looks really good. So we had to order a few different styles to home so that we could do a proper makeup, hair, shoes, accessories, vibe, just to make sure we're really confident with it. And she ended up choosing a dress. So if you're looking for a Mother of the Bride dress and you haven't been to Rachel Gilbert, I would recommend visiting a store and just doing a little bit of a try on.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I would attest to that. Am I allowed to share that? I got a sneak peek when we went for dinner because.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I beg your pardon, One.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Joe, you were sick right now.

[Joanna Fleming]

We just weren't posted.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Joe's mom. I was like, joe, your mom looks hot.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh, my God. Wolf whistles. I can't whistle for sure. So I'm just like, fuck, yeah. If you're listening, Jo's mum, you look divine.

[Joanna Fleming]

She'll love that.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I love that. We've gone from a wolf whistle to divine. Okay. So from something very traditional like Mother of the Bride, to something Rather untraditional. There is a little bit of a trend that's been popping off on TikTok and also on our Slack channels. And look, when I say little, I mean incredibly large trend that's going off despite the fact Jo hasn't yet seen it. Your algorithm is doing you dirty, and it is Labubus. Joe, do you now know what a labo boo is?

[Joanna Fleming]

I'm now across the Labubu when it first landed in the Slack channel. I think that was on Friday. I think I replied saying, what the fuck is a little boo boo? But then I did see a TikTok after that from Maxine Wild, who's a creator on Instagram and Tik Tok. You might be familiar with her. She's from Melbourne and she asked for a labo boo for her birthday, and she was unboxing her birthday Labubu. So that's how I saw it. And then I was like, oh, okay, got it.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Cute.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

And I mean, yeah, well, perfect segue. Labo boos have been described as cute, creepy, scary, quirky, probably many other descriptors that we could use in lieu of those words. But they're essentially a very, very popular keychain bag charm. And so, according to BBC News, it's difficult to pin their recent rise in popularity to one particular ingredient. Celebrity endorsements, social media, unboxing videos, and their ability to stir up nostalgia are all contributing factors. It's a bit of a surprise because we are essentially talking about a toy that is being made popular by women on the Internet, largely women, and they're sold in blind boxes. So when you buy a Labubu, you're buying kind of like a lucky dip surprise. You don't know which Labubu you're going to get, what color. There's some that are quite rare versus others, but some fans are being really converted into superfans. They're like collectors, collector editions. And so they were actually created by Hong Kong illustrator Ka Singh Lung in 2015, and they're called the Monsters and are actually inspired by Nordic mythology.

[Joanna Fleming]

Okay, because I was gonna ask, what actually is it? Is it a rabbit?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Like, what?

[Joanna Fleming]

What is it? It's got, like, ears on it, but then it's got a scary face.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Yeah.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

They don't all have a scary face.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Okay, all right.

[Joanna Fleming]

I've just seen the scary ones.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

The same BBC article that I mentioned earlier reported Labubu Make a pop. Mar has doubled its profits in the last year and is eyeing up global expansion in 2025. And before we get into our Convos on Loboo. The producers have kindly got a little surprise for us.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Are we all getting a Labubu?

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Okay, well, let me open the box and don't ruin it.

[Joanna Fleming]

But yes, I hope I get a rare one.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Wait, I thought that was a Jill Sanders.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Sell it on. What did I off, Mike? I said to Lucy, so our three boxes. Let me asmr for you here. Are in a Jill Sanders shoe box. And said to Lucy, our head of podcast, off mic. This is quite dangerous because Annika might be disappointed that it's not a pair of Jill Sanders.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I'm like, my Labubu better be dressed in Jill Sander.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So a bit of backstory. You can buy Labubus at Pop Mart stores. And Naima from our team, who's head of socials, actually went and these were the last three Labubus in the store.

[Joanna Fleming]

It was fate.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Love you, Naima.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

It is fate. And so look, I'll be a real lady and allow you both to each pick which of these three you're maybe gravitating towards.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Okay, Jo, go first.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

But if you ever walk past a Pop Mart, they are pumping. It's like Labubu hq.

[Joanna Fleming]

I think I'm gonna go to the middle one, please. Okay, I'm getting a vibe for that one.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Okay, now, we're not to open them separately. We've got to open together.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh, my God, your package is cute.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Which would you like?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

The lift one, please.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Okay.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Thank you so much.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Okay, so in the spirit of just the Internet, let's have a little ASMR moment, please.

[Joanna Fleming]

Okay.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Okay. What color do you want before you open?

[Joanna Fleming]

Well, obviously I want brown, but Satman.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Kind of want a chocolate one.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Well, that's. I think that's the rarest. I would also like that chocolate one. Okay.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Mine's sage.

[Joanna Fleming]

I got a cute one.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I'm obsessed.

[Joanna Fleming]

Mine doesn't look scary at all.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Mine does.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh, my God. Mine looks like Gemini. This is me.

[Joanna Fleming]

Oh, that's actually really cute.

[Unnamed Speaker]

I love you, La Boo Boo.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Mine looks a little bit like me when I haven't yet got my coffee and I smile at the barista to say a note. Latte, please.

[Joanna Fleming]

Mine's got his eyes. Eyes closed.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Oh, my God, this is cute.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

You've got a sleepy Labubu.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Sleepy Labo.

[Joanna Fleming]

I just know Axel is going to try. Our dog is going to try and grab this off my bag. If I put this on, my miso.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Is going to be the same. But I'm going to make him, like, love this little thing.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Labubus aren't cheap guys. So might I recommend putting them on a handbag or a set of keys instead of giving them to your dogs? Because I believe these retail for $32.

[Joanna Fleming]

Okay. Do they get more expensive, like the rarer? Oh, no, they wouldn't. Because no one knows what's in the box.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

No one knows what's in the box. But if you do open it up and have rare collectors, one. So some of them are rarer than others.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So if you do have a rare Labubu, the resale market is absolutely insane. Like, there's one of them that is a 1 in 72 chance.

[Joanna Fleming]

Okay, so we're going to need to check how rare each of our Jo's.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Looking to add to the wedding fun.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

The girl meth right now. Like, invest in the boob.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Don't you think this is a really interesting craze though? Right? Because I think there's a lot of high end designer brands that are playing in this space. I mean, I've seen Chanel, Fendi, Mew mew, little outfits for them, but we're essentially talking about a little toy.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

And I think it's really leaning into that nostalgia thing that we had growing up. It reminds me a lot of Beanie Babies, to be honest.

[Joanna Fleming]

I had the biggest collection of Beanie Kids. I think my mum's still got them at home.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Same.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I did Pokemon cards, I did Beanie Babies, I did Tamagotchis. Oh, I know. She was all in on everything.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I had a lot of Beanie Kids growing up. Actually sold them on ebay for quite a bit in high school just to fund the formal dress, I think. Yeah. Sell them in like a group.

[Joanna Fleming]

I don't think I could part with.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

This is such a fascinating trend. I was talking about this recently because for me it feels like this, you know, first lifetime thing. I don't know if you've seen those Tiktoks where it's older people getting the dollhouse they always wanted growing up or the older women getting something. And it's like this is their first life too. And I think we kind of get told we have to stop loving cute things or things that maybe feel a little bit young and silly as we get older, but these are just really fun and cute.

[Joanna Fleming]

And is it like a comfort thing, I wonder, for our generation? Because times are pretty tough at the moment. Are we millennials just trying to go back to our childhoods where we were safe, honestly, and not exposed to interest rate rises?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh, my God, that rings so true. I Feel like it's so less serious. It's like kind of going back to this time of nostalgia. We think life was so much easier. And even just seeing how fashion plays with this kind of aesthetic and kind of plays into that childlike playfulness of it all as well. We've seen everyone from Bottega Veneta do really cool beanbags that are huge stuffed animals at their shows. And even just the whole kind of cutesy phenomenon like pimple patches that are cute. And we're going onto TikTok and doing all these cute little things. It does take us back to a time where life was just so uncomplicated or less complicated. Yeah, I want to go back there.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

And I think there's a lot of sort of Kawaii influence that's coming through as well at the moment. Like you've just mentioned bag charms. I think there's a lot of fun things that we're doing and having and it's quite nice not to be so serious.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah, yeah.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I think Labubu in particular, they actually just did a collab with pronounce Fall 2024 Runway show and they actually had life sized dolls and a little baby one sitting front row.

[Joanna Fleming]

Really?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

And like, yeah, like there's all these kind of cute moments about them. I've seen so many really high end influences, like Brian boy rocking his Birkin and he had like five labubus attached, kind of like the ultimate high low. So he's got the most expensive bag in the world. And then the little Labubu.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I love it.

[Joanna Fleming]

I can't believe how much Labubu is going off and I just knew nothing about them. I know now my whole feed is going to be Labubu.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I'm going to start noticing them.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah, Labubu talk. I mean, Dua Lipa's got a Labubu. We had Lisa from Black.

[Joanna Fleming]

I feel really having a Labubu right now.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

And yours matches your outfit.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

You're like I one step closer to Dua Lipa. Yeah, I have been loving it, to be honest. There's a lot of fun tiktoks about it. If you want to go and have a look, I would urge you to. There's people who are making mini Chanel outfits and replicating the handbags they have for their labubus, but also some hilarious ones of like little motorized cars and Labubu going around for a speedy little drive. And look, I'm here for all of it. And now we're part of the Labubu gang.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah, it's a fun little trend. Well, up next we're going to explain what door shoes are, and we're going to be giving you some good recommendations. But that will be right after a word from today's sponsor.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

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[Joanna Fleming]

Okay, what the heck are door shoes? A recent video from content creator and stylish contributor Alison Hope Murray has got us thinking about door shoes. Now they pretty much are self explanatory. Ellison is on an ongoing search for the perfect door shoe and that's a journey that she's been documenting on her TikTok account. Now if you're wondering what a door shoe is, if you haven't figured it out already, basically it's like a slip on shoe you can leave by the front door and easily slip on and off when you need to pop down to the shops or to the park or you're taking the dog out to the toilet. Allison's caveat is that the door shoes need to be comfortable but still cool, easy to slip on and actually stay on the foot and they need to have a closed toe, no laces, and they also have to be aesthetically pleasing. And she's looking for something other than Birkenstocks. You know, they're Boston clog that they've got. So she's been wearing them for the last three summers, but she wants something else, so she's looking for recommendations. So I'm very curious to see what makes a good door shoe for each of you so I can go through your criteria and do you have any worthy recommendations to add to Alison's list?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

It's so funny. So, like, I've always had this type of shoe, but I never has, like a name for it. And it's like, you know those throw ons at the front door? Everyone has a shoe. Yeah, I actually, I have a winter shoe and I have a summer dual shoe. And so my winter one is actually these. They're unisex as well, so kind of like the Birkenstocks, but they are Amy Leon Dore, garden mule. I want to say they're like a rubbery plastic and they come in an array of colors, so you can just slip them on when I'm taking me. So for a walk or the postman or my Uber Eats is there and I need to quickly run out of the house. Not in my socks or ugg boots. And then in summer, I just rock a croc. Oh, that rhymed. Rock a croc. But sometimes I feel like if I need to be a little bit chica in my door shoe, it's a ballet flat, and it's something you can easily do high or low.

[Joanna Fleming]

Off she trots.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Imagine seeing me make capris and my ballets.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Only you would say a door shoe.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Is a ballet flat with a sparkle. No kidding. So those are mine.

[Joanna Fleming]

What are yours, Mads? And what's your criteria?

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So I was laughing, like, thinking about this because I'm like, this is the Nunu of shoes. Yeah, it's like not your. It's the new new shoe. Yeah, the door shoe. I love this. So when you put your new new and your door shoes on. So I'm guilty of wearing the Boston Clog. I love my Boston Clogs. They have been a trusty, faithful. I've got my cost per wear on those down to about 0.02 cents. But in summer, I wear an Archie's Slide. So I know a lot of people have the Archie thongs, but the slides are just super neutral. I got them in like a soft camel color and I usually rock those around, but I started letting that door shoe really start going to wine bars, restaurants. I think I might have done it.

[Joanna Fleming]

I think Adrian has the same door shoes as you.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Yeah.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Great go off Adrian. Great choice in footwear, but I am eyeing off a new door shoe. Birkenstock have just launched. It's like if the Loafer and the Boston Clog had a baby.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So it's like a square toe. It's got a loafer profile, but I imagine it to be as comfortable as the Boston Clog.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah. I was going to suggest a loafer as the winter option.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah.

[Joanna Fleming]

My summer option. They're these shoes called Holsters. They look like the rubber version of Birkenstocks.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Oh.

[Joanna Fleming]

But they're a brand called Holsters. They're an Australian brand, similar to my Al days. Are they? Okay, So I have a few pairs of them in different colors and I wore them all throughout Europe. Most comfy shoes ever. They're always at the door. I always take the dog out to go to the toilet wearing them. I take him for walks in them. I wear them to Pilates. Like they go everywhere with me. I do also wear them in winter. I just put socks on. Yes. I don't really care who sees me around the street.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I'm the same. I also love my Boston Clog in summer. Just fitzier than usual.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Yeah.

[Joanna Fleming]

Okay, so we've got a few options for Alison there.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Yeah.

[Joanna Fleming]

Maybe. If anyone has other options for Alison, send us a DM on stylish.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I would love to know what people's door shoes are because it's kind of like, you know when you go to the supermarket and you run into people and you're like, oh, really don't want to see that person. And you're always in your no nose and your door shoe. That's me to a T. Always. Always.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Let me tell you, I'm never bumping into someone looking the goods. It's always when I'm in uggies in the noo news and I'm like, perfect. Is the pimple patch that I put on my forehead this morning still on?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

My little star still sitting there? Hon, you look so cute. La boo boo.

[Unnamed Speaker]

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[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Okay, so the next story is a little bit more serious because we wanted to talk about the impact that America's tariffs are having on our very own Australian fashion brands. So in case you've missed this, earlier this month the US Imposed tariffs on imports from Australia and other trade partners globally. This all took effect from April 5, and over the last few weeks we've seen a range of industries really outraged and speaking up about the impact they're having. And fashion is a really big part of this. Amy Smale, the founder of British fashion brand Odd Muse, has been sharing a lot on TikTok of late. She does an amazing job. Side note of sharing her journey for Odd Muse.

[Joanna Fleming]

Agree.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

And this was really the first creator I saw covering the impact of this. So in her most recent videos she's been detailing how Odd News has really been impacted as 40% of her sales come from the US alone.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Ouch.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So we've got a little clip that we're going to play and then we'll.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Chat to stop a shipment going into the US Yesterday about to leave and we worked out that the tariffs was going to be an extra $200,000. Had to stop that shipment and pause on US Fulfillment for now. For the moment, the tariffs aren't customer facing. Apparently they will be in May. Hearing he's dropping them in May. So I don't know what sort of game he's playing, but I am not risking sending a big bulk shipment to the US right now.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So some pretty hefty numbers thrown around there. $200,000 certainly isn't anything to gawk at, but you might be thinking, what does this mean for Australia? Well, compared to other countries, we have one of the lower tariffs sitting at 10%. But according to yarn acquaintance James, the CEO of the Australian Fashion Council, the impact is still sizable. In an interview with the ABC, she explained how 97% of Australian fashion brands are making their clothes offshore, often in places like China where the tariffs are much higher. So this ultimately increases the cost price for American consumers and we assume will result in less demand. Yana used the example of a hundred dollar dress that's manufactured in China for an Aussie brand. With the tariffs, this dress would now cost well over $200. Which she said unfortunately makes us uncompetitive in the global market.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So even Australian made garments, so perhaps a factory in Bankstown or somewhere in Sunshine in Victoria that are using Chinese fabrics will also be classified under those Chinese tariffs, she said. So the US market is super important to Australian fashion brands and we're very lucky that we have someone who knows all about this sitting in the room with us. Anika. But it's a big reason Australian brands like Dish have been able to experience such remarkable growth over the last few years. And obviously there's a lot of people and brands in the industry that are being impacted right now. And Anika, I know we spoke about this even between the three of us the other day and you just saying it's being long nights and lots of WhatsApp group chats and lots of calls and emails and no one really knowing.

[Joanna Fleming]

What'S going on, right?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Pretty much. Honestly, you guys, I think there is so much turbulence in our industry right now and I think it's invoked a lot of stress and anxiety and fear. And I think the hardest thing like what Yana has been saying is there is no kind of way to plan right now because the tariffs have changed significantly. It was originally not 125% and then Trump was just being so unpredictable that it got inflated and increased again. And I think because when the goalpost is changing so frequently, it's really hard to make informed decisions, especially in business. And I think right now you just can't make long term plans on short term information. And I actually tuned into a webinar with the afc, so Australian Fashion Council, Ernest and Young and a whole bunch of other industry leaders and just any other brands trying to navigate the tariffs right now. And I think the common consensus is everyone is feeling scared. But at the end of the day what we're kind of seeing is the instant response which happened overnight was to inflate your prices. And we kind of don't want to do that because that means the US consumer could actually get cut out quite significantly. Unfortunately, some brands, they already had shipments on route to the US so when they got to the port they got 125% tariff fee slapped on top. So there's been port congestion. People aren't actually picking up their goods at the port. So the US has been inundated right now with late shipments. We're Trying to actively speak to our retailers and see what type of partnership we can kind of get on their end to have like the deliveries windows pushed out or just seeing if they can kind of support us in terms of backend and commercials and you know, that unsexy chat in the background. But I think brands have been forced to respond really quickly and quite suddenly, which has made this incredibly hard to plan for. And I think the saddest thing as well is a lot of brands now as of May 2, a lot of brands are turning off shipping to the US so that entire customer will be kind of cut out. A lot of brands, unfortunately as of May 2nd are going to make their customers wear the tariffs, which is what Amy from Odd Muse was alluding to. So it's actually just a really unfortunate time. There has been a lot of suggestions from the US retailer side of it being like, can you guys renegotiate, relocate or reprice? And while those suggestions are valid, these aren't overnight solutions. You can't just go and renegotiate with your makers as well as the receivers, your retailers. You can't just go and relocate your makers from China to Vietnam, India or Turkey overnight. You can't reprice overnight. So all of these things that are currently in motion I think has been causing a lot of stress and concern. But, but each week it's changing. This week our sentiment is very much to try and stay calm, stay level headed and actually have some perspective on the matter. So a lot of our brands, luckily we've only had some retailers request cancellations, but most of them are actually in a position to hold their shipments and we're now kind of waiting for it to blow over. So it's really highlighted the importance for us all to diversify geographically. We're definitely looking into partnering with more retailers in Europe, the Middle East, Asia and even just focus on supporting Australia as a whole. I think now the sentiment going into resort market, which is what Australian Fashion Week is all about, is gonna be to nurture, nurture, nurture. And I think it's a really shitty time because the US has been a huge area of growth for our brands and our portfolio as well as so many other Aussie brands. But we now need to kind of reassess our target markets, really focus on nurturing who we're working with and maybe it might even invoke more conscious consumption and just supporting Australian brands as a whole.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah, I mean, I've been chatting to a couple of Australian brand founders and I think the one benefit to come out of this because it's very hard to see much benefit for a lot of these brands that are in the US or trying to crack it is that it's brought a lot of fashion brands together. And I'm hearing lots of conversations around email chains that everyone's including each other on and WhatsApp groups where everyone is just helping each other. And I think if there's one silver lining to come out of that, isn't it amazing that that as an industry they can all gather together and work through it and try and find solves that they can help each other with.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I've got to say that's actually been something really beautiful from all of this. Like one silver lining. Bailey actually from Baina, she started this really great group and it's an industry insiders WhatsApp group and it's like so many brands from Christopher Isber to Wynn Hamlin to like makers, smaller brands as well, all coming together, sounding out problems together and actually talking through what happened on your end. How do we navigate this? It's actually been so insightful and incredible in real time to actually know that our whole community right now has been impacted by this and we're all navigating it together, working together and there's just more transparency. Cause I think sometimes people are quite closed, you know, with their IP and things like that. Whereas now we're actually all working together to ensure all of our brands in Australia still has such a global platform.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah, well, when no one knows what the hell's going on and it's changing minute to minute almost exactly. No one knows each other. Yeah, I saw a TikTok last night actually from a creator who was trying to purchase some things from the Triangle website from the us. I don't know if you guys saw this, but she was trying to place an order for just over a thousand dollars of Triangle Swimwear and filmed essentially the checkout page where it was showing the duties as I think it was almost nineteen hundred dollars.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Jesus.

[Joanna Fleming]

And she was being like, what is this? And they actually replied in a comment on that TikTok and they said orders over $800 have a tariff added in line with US tariff regulations. If you bring your cart below that amount, you won't be charged. So they're even being like, buy less from us and we won't have to.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Charge you these multiple orders. Yeah, it's much like GST when you enter Australia, if you buy something overseas, if you've ever bought from an overseas retailer, if it's over a thousand dollars they will often not include the GST as part of that. So you'll be charged your goods and services tax. This is what retailers and brands may look to do for people that are purchasing.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Yeah, even our retailers on the ground their sentiment every day. It's changing. And they're also saying we're not experts, can we get creative to problem solve here? But it's like you want to be by the book, you want to do the right thing. Trump's just making that really difficult right now.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah, I think as you said, it feels like it's changing by the day and I just really hope that there is a way forward because as you said, none of the solutions that are currently being presented are short term ones. Sending all of your garments to India to see what India can manufacture. Countries generally speaking have an area of expertise. India is renowned for being great with beading. China is renowned for being great with poly and cotton. So I think there's lots of challenges that brands are facing into, but none of the solutions to tariffs are going to be found overnight. A definite watch this space for us. But up next, it's back, back in a big way. We've got opinions, please.

[Joanna Fleming]

I love opinions, please.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

We haven't done this for some time but you know, as the name would allude it is where you send in some questions and we try and come up with some of the answers for you. Today's opinion slays is very skin centric, so we're going to be leaning on our resident skinny because like me too, our listener said hi stylish gals. I'm a longtime listener. Thank you so much. First time question asker. My adult acne scars are starting to get me down. I always notice them in every photograph and it's a constant reminder of the struggle I face in high school when I had terrible cystic acne. At the time I had to go on maraccutane to treat it. And although I have really tried to love my skin throughout it all, I found it really hard. I'd really like to get rid of as much of this as possible. I have some deeper, more ice pick style scars, others that aren't as deep and just some general discolouration. What would Jo recommend? Are there any particular procedures she's seen work really well on her clients with acne scarring? Any advice is so appreciated. Love, Lara. Lara, before I hand over to Jo, I think I just want to say personally, as someone who has had terrible, terrible cystic acne while I was doing four years of fertility treatments, I Absolutely empathize with you. And I'm sure Jo has seen every spectrum of skin. And I think I speak for all of us when we say we definitely empathize with you. And it can be very hard to love your skin when there's live acne or acne scarring. But thank God we've got Jo in the room because she's gonna give us as much advice as she can.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yes, we could do like a four hour episode on acne and acne scarring. We're gonna specifically talk about acne scarring here, I think because it's a lot easier for us to cover that side of things. So once we're no longer dealing with active acne and we can then manage the scarring, then we're in a place where we can evaluate what our options are. So our discoloured scarring or our post inflammatory hyperpigmentation or erythema, those brown marks that hang around after you've had acne or even just a random pimple like, can be left with those marks even if you don't typically suffer from acne, might just get the odd pimple here and there. There are a lot of ways to treat that kind of discoloration and that's a very easy type of acne scarring to deal with. You can deal with that topically. You could have chemical pills, you could have skin needling, for example. Some great topicals to use for that kind of discoloration would be your retinoids, exfoliating acids, vitamin C, niacinamide, are all really great options to have in your topical routine. And then we look at your more atrophic scarring, which is that indented scarring as you've mentioned in your question. Lara, you've mentioned the ice pick scarring. We've got boxcar scars, we've got rolling scars. Those are all types of atrophic scarring or indented scarring. And that is much trickier to treat. It's not something that is typically going to respond topically. If we're using topical skincare, it can help to support the skin and support the recovery of the skin for sure. So definitely don't completely neglect the topical side of things. It's great to have a well balanced skincare routine to support the brightening of your skin, especially if you also have some of that discoloration. But I would be looking at some professional modalities. So typically when we're dealing with this kind of scarring, you're looking at quite a few different modalities. All paired together to get the best result. It's not usually just the one thing that you would get that you would then see the most success from. You'll probably see a dermatologist or an expert in treating scarring that will be like, oh, hey, do TCA cross, which is a type of chemical peel, and then we're going to do some CO2 laser or erbium laser. We might do some RF needling. There's so many different options in this space and they all vastly differ in price point.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So, Jo, hypothetically, if we didn't know what modality meant, I've got no idea.

[Joanna Fleming]

I'm sorry, modality.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

You switched into gear?

[Joanna Fleming]

Sorry. Yeah, I fully went into consultation mode there. It's just a different type of treatment. So modality, I would say is like skin needling or it's a laser or. Yeah, that's kind of how I would describe a different type of procedure. Amazing, essentially. Yeah. So to kind of give you a bit of a spectrum of what you would be looking at treatment wise. As I said before, we've got the TCA cross, which is a type of chemical peel that you kind of drip into those scars and it helps with collagen remodeling. Then you've got things like CO2 or erbium lasers. They can be fractionated where they treat a fraction of the skin or they can be fully ablative and that's a bit more hectic, a lot more downtime. We've got pico second lasers, which are photoacoustic lasers, great for pigment and they're also really suitable for deeper skin tones. So that's another consideration here as well. Not all of these treatments will be super for a deeper Fitzpatrick, which is a deeper skin tone. So that's something to be mindful of as well. Then you've got your vascular lasers like XLV V beam, they're great for that red discoloration. Or if there is a vascular element to your scarring, there's also the option of surgical subcision to loosen the tether of a scar if it is really deep. And then you could also do fillers or biostimulators. So you could do like the salmon sperm or something like profhilo, which is a hyaluronic acid based biostimulator. Or you could do your classic dermal fillers, which is more of a temporary solution, I would say. Whereas the other modalities or treatments or procedures are more those long term solutions where you can typically get, you know, you could get 70, 80 90% improvement in those scars. But I would proceed with the mindset of improvement rather than and resolution because you may not completely remove those scars in their entirety, but you are very likely to see an improvement, especially if you're going to see someone that is an expert in treating scarring and is approaching it in that way with a few different strategies to try and get you to where you want to be.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Right.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah. It's so interesting, this phase too, because I think that's such an important message, that it's about improvement, not the pursuit of perfection or your skin being what it once was. I know even I had something cut out of my face. I had a cyst on the side of my face and went and saw a plastic surgeon because it was in a very visible location. That's what the emergency doctor suggested I did. And when I went, the surgeon, while he was actually operating on it locally, said to me, I can fix all of that acne scarring for you too. And it just felt so. You know, when you're in a place where maybe you are just trying to find improvement, not perfection, it's like not a lovely thing for people to say.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

You're already vulnerable.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah. Or trying to set up.

[Joanna Fleming]

And when you haven't sought that advice about that, that particular thing, maybe not the time to mention it.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Yeah. When half your face is being cut out, maybe don't say, hey, I can fix the other half of what's going on too.

[Joanna Fleming]

Yeah.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh, bless. Okay, so from your feedback and advice, Jo, is there anything we can do at home? In my mind, hypothetically, the old toothpaste and LED at home's not gonna fix.

[Joanna Fleming]

A little the toothpaste, Definitely not. Look, LED can be.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

You're like, I was just testing you.

[Joanna Fleming]

An at home LED could be helpful from like an inflammation perspective. If we've got that discolour red scarring that may help the skin to recover a little bit from that kind of discoloration, it probably is not going to make a huge impact to more of that atrophic scarring. And that's what. I don't want to give people this idea that that kind of scarring can be treated with, you know, having a little derma roller at home. It's not going to be. So I wouldn't want people spending their money on those kind of tools, thinking that it's going to be the thing that resolves their concerns. But it's best to see an expert and discuss your options because it may be in your budget. You may kind of not realize that it is a little bit more achievable than you think it because there are some Medicare rebates in some instances. Oh, wow. So it is worth discussing that with dermatologists to see whether you would qualify for any kind of rebates on any of those treatments. It would highly depend on your individual circumstances, but it's worth having a conversation and then at least, you know, or maybe it's not something I can do right now, but in five years time, if it's still something I'm thinking about, then maybe I will put that budget away to go towards some of those treatments or treatment plan.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Yeah.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

As always, Jo, honestly, just a wealth of knowledge with skin.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I know.

[Joanna Fleming]

And now really turn it on. A fully went consultation.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Well, now I'm like, I know what modality means as well. I learned something new today.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Yeah. Honestly, I'm like, thank God this is a recording. I can play it back, listen, tune in. Maybe just have an appointment with Jock Lara.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I have no doubt there's a lot of helpful things in there for you for both at home, for the discoloration and with your modality options as well. That is all for this week's episode of Stylish. Thank you very much for joining us. We have all been sitting here playing with our new emotional support look Labubus, for the last half hour.

[Joanna Fleming]

I love my labo Boo.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Same. I feel like we're in therapy.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Do we name them? I don't know what I'll call mine yet, but we'll keep that up.

[Joanna Fleming]

Think about it.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

We'll circle back.

[Joanna Fleming]

Can we come back next week with our name for our loo Boo?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I think I've already named mine.

[Joanna Fleming]

Oh, have you?

[Annika Joshi Smith]

It's Dory.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I love it. I think mine is like Mandy. Mandy the monster.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Oh, I didn't expect that from.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Or Larry. Larry the Labubu. It's Larry.

[Joanna Fleming]

What would you name Marty? Mine?

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Biancha.

[Joanna Fleming]

Oh, okay.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

I don't know.

[Joanna Fleming]

It's quite a mainstream name.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Can we call her Luann?

[Joanna Fleming]

Luann. Yes, Luann. It does look like a Luanne.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

She's just trying.

[Joanna Fleming]

More of a Luanne than a Bianca.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

I know. I'm sure. Like, are you sure you don't want to be like Kyle?

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

Well, she is, obviously.

[Joanna Fleming]

There we go.

[Madison Sullivan Thorpe]

So it's not Larry. It's Kyle. And thanks for joining this week's episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Thank you very much, Luann and Kyle. And who do we go with? Doreen. Or otherwise known as Annika. Joshi Smith and Joanna Fleming for joining in today. Remember, you can drop us an email anytime@style-ishameless media.com or you can slide into our DMS, maybe send us a picture of your own labubu if you have happened to get one and what its name is. And we of course can't forget to thank our audio engineer link, Liam Clayton and of course the Shameless Media team, head of podcast Lucy Hunt and senior podcast producer Kate Emmerburg. We'll be right back with you next Wednesday. See you then.

[Joanna Fleming]

And we'll have Luann and Kyle and Dorit with us again.

[Annika Joshi Smith]

Real Housewives of Melbourne castings are now open. This podcast was recorded on Wurundjeri Land. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Hi, it's Ruby here. I'm the host of Shameless Media's podcast Inherited. And every week on Inherited, I'm joined by a guest who tells me about the rule, relic, recipe and ritual that has shaped who they are. And this week I speak to Blue Eyed Kayla Jade. Kayla has become one of Australia's biggest TikTok stars for the content she posts about her life as a full service sex worker. Her millions of followers adore how openly she speaks about what it's really like, like to work in the sex industry and her intimate client stories.

People shouldn't just do it for the money because like they think it's going to make them a lot of money because you might do it and make no money. Yeah, like, you know what I mean? So you've got to sort of enjoy it as well.

Have there been periods where it has felt a bit much for you?

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. There's times where I feel like, especially if I'm seeing a lot of clients, it really takes it out of me mentally. Especially when I first started I was like, excited and I was seeing a lot of clients and I kind of had to step back and be like, my mental health sucks because of this. Like, this is draining me so much. And I knew that I couldn't keep going like that. So I really had to scale back and be like, look, this is my limit. Otherwise like my mental health is going to go. And it's like, that's something that you need to keep like close to you. You know, you don't want that, you don't want to disrupt that.

You can listen to my chat with Blue Eyed Kayla Jade. Wherever you're listening to this right now, just search Inherited. And you can follow us on socials too. We're on Instagram and TikTok at Inherited the Pod. And we'll be back with another episode next Tuesday.