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Success Story with Scott D. Clary
Grant Cardone - Billionaire Real Estate Mogul | Why 10X Thinking is the Only Path to Real Wealth
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Scott Clary
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Grant Cardone
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If you're not looking for a butterfly, you're probably not going to see one. You're going to get what you look for. Focus on the target. Your target should be monster, make 100 exit. Then find out whether the business that you're in right now can actually get you to that target. And if it can't, don't leave it yet. But start studying the thing that could get you there. When I first made a million dollars, I did not go into hunger mode. But what would I have to do? A billion? Oh, I'd have to change my model. Means I got to get out of my comfort zone.
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Unknown
He doesn't whisper about, he shouts it from rooftops. Grant Cardone Is the unapologetic force behind a $4 billion real estate empire, best selling author of the 10x rule, and a man on a mission to help people think bigger, earn more, and never settle. From growing up broke to running one of the largest private real estate portfolios.
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Grant Cardone
In America, I should be worth $20 billion today. The haters have made me unbelievable amounts of money. I would not have the success I have without the haters.
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Unknown
Grant's not just talking about wealth.
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Grant Cardone
He.
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Unknown
He's scaling it. Love him or hate him, one thing certain, he refuses to play small. In this episode, we dive into the mindset, the money, and the movement behind one of the boldest voices in business today.
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Grant Cardone
My advice to parents is you cannot turn them over to YouTube and Facebook. Those are not nannies. TD was an early form of. YouTube is garbage, dude. You're watching garbage every day. They're terrible things, and they're not even real. You have to want it. You got to be willing to leave everything you have. I have never had success in my life, not a next level success, without leaving something I love. Scott, Clary's in the house.
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Scott Clary
What's going on, bro?
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Grant Cardone
What's going on? It's good to have you here.
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Scott Clary
No, it's good to be here. Thank you, man. I appreciate you so much. Grant, people know your origin story, but I like to teed up like this.
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Grant Cardone
They know my origin story. What? What? That you.
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Scott Clary
Oh, they know the origin. No, they know the origin story.
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Grant Cardone
Like, the origin story, bro, would be before conception.
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Scott Clary
That's true. Okay, the post. The post origin story.
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Grant Cardone
Okay, the post origin story.
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Okay.
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Scott Clary
If you could tell yourself when you were struggling, when you were going through all the hard times, when you were very, very early on.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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One thing.
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Scott Clary
What would that thing be?
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Grant Cardone
Let's see, one thing. What? What? Where am I? Am I 8 years old? 16? There's all these critical points in my life.
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Scott Clary
Say you're struggling with addiction.
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Grant Cardone
Oh, yeah, well, quit using drugs. Quit using drugs. Get rid of the chick. She was a drug addict. Get rid of all your friends. Quit going to the clubs. I mean, in my case, L.A. you don't have clubs in Louisiana. You have bars. But, you know, basically what I had to do, would I. You know, if you're. If you're. If you're having a drug problem today. Guys, look, nobody beats the drugs ever. Elvis, Michael Jackson, like, just keep going down the list. Nobody beats it. Number one. Number two, nobody starts as a drug addict. Everybody starts thinking they're just having a good time. And number three, you're not doing it by yourself. You're doing them with other people. Other people are always involved in a drug activity and get rid of them. Like you have to walk away from, if you don't walk away from those people, those are not your friends. They're not even their own friends. Walk away. Go to treatment. If you have to go somewhere where you're not going to use drugs forever, understand you're not powerless over drugs. Drugs. Drug addiction is not a disease. Drug addiction is a choice. Okay? To snort cocaine is a choice. To smoke weed is a choice. To pop a pill is a choice. There is no disease, no illness that says you have to be a drug addict. That's a choice. No.
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Scott Clary
And, and life is made up of choices. And I think that most of the audience that listens to this show, they figured out their life to a degree. They're fortunately not in a, in a horrible spot. I'm sure some of them have had some tough times, but they've, they've sort of figured out kind of what they want to do in their life. But there's still, there's still so many choices. So the, the point of that question was, okay, so now you've overcome the drugs and the addiction. What's the advice you give yourself so that you can be some version of successful? Because the kids have so many different options, right? You can go, yeah, well, I mean.
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Grant Cardone
You know, one, one you got to, once you clean up, like if you, even for you guys that don't have.
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Scott Clary
Problems, right, Drinking a lot in college, it doesn't, not drug. But we all, we all, dude, it's.
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Grant Cardone
A waste of time. Nobody's ever looked back and said it was my drinking in college that made me successful. Never. Like, there's not one person that's ever said, yeah bro, it was when I was freaking partying hard that made me who I am today. So, you know, I, you just gotta, once you, once you quit screwing up, whatever you're screwing up, then you gotta go make cleanup the screw ups, okay? Now if you've been just kind of lazy and just goofing off, that's a liability too. Like you don't have to be a full out drug addict to be a problem to yourself. Your future, your future self, your family, your dreams. You're basically a liability. You're in treason to your dreams if you're, if you're off, okay? Like, so you got to clean that up. You got to look at, okay, what have I been doing that is below my potential? Admit that you're doing that. And you got to stop it. One, two. You got to clean it up. You got to go clean up the damage that you did. You did damage, you know, and if you don't clean up the damage, then you're never going to clean up. Okay, but basically you're like, well, no, I haven't hurt anybody. Yeah, bro, you hurt yourself. You ruin your own self esteem for those five or six or seven or eight years that you underperform your potential.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
So I spent between the age of 25 and probably 31 or 32 years old, especially the first three years, 25 to 28, just cleaning up all the damage I did, all the, the, the, the betrayals I made. Like, I promised somebody I was going to be someplace and I didn't. Yeah, that you damaged me and it damaged them. They're trusting me. So you got to clean all that up. You need to write a whole list of everything you need to clean up and go clean it up.
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Scott Clary
And then once you're on the right path, you know, people still, people still have a hard time figuring out where to spend their time and energy. Young kids have a hard time. When I say young kids, I'm talking about, I'm not that old, but I'm talking about 24, 25, 26, 27. Not everybody's entrepreneurial. Not everybody knows how to invest. People just start working for a company. They don't have really an idea of where they want their life to end up and they just kind of drift.
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Grant Cardone
Drift? Yeah.
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Scott Clary
So how do you not drift when you start your career? That's very important. I think that, you know, between 20 and 25, it's a beautiful time because you can take so many fucking risks and you can try to do anything and if you fuck up, it doesn't matter.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, it does matter, right? Every time you up, you, you, you, you, you, you have that L on your, on your board.
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Scott Clary
It from a business perspective. But I rather you take risks than just play it safe.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, well, certain. Well, you can take risk and still have W's, though. Like, I think you, you know, I would tell everybody to quit making sense of your Ls, right. You got to be in the game, you got to be going for it, and you got to turn it into a win. There is a way to turn everything into a win. You don't have to have a bunch of losses in life. Like, you don't have to accumulate a bunch of failures in order to like validate yourself. I told my daughter, she's 15 yesterday I said, look, you get 13, my 13 year old. You get, you get confidence from doing something. Yeah, anything. Two, you get confidence from doing it consistently, and three, you get even more confidence if you do it and win. So if people could just put more attention on, look, I'm going to school, let's say I'm going to school, then do great at school, or don't go to school and then go to work. But you got to do one of the two. You're either going to go to school, go to work, or like what I did was I went to school and worked and you know, and so I would just tell you, like, if you're going to work and you got a refinery job, a job like I had, or McDonald's, I worked at McDonald's. I didn't take it seriously. Dude, you got to become the best person at McDonald's or in the refinery, whatever you're doing, you got to learn how to become a master of that trade so that you forget the rest of the world, you know, hey, when I do something, I do it well and even better than everybody else.
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Scott Clary
Do you think that, do you think that, you know, kids between 25, you know, 20, 25, do you think they're taking life seriously?
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Unknown
Do you think.
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Grant Cardone
I don't think anybody's taking life seriously. Forget the 25, 15. Like you're going to 25, bro. But what about at 8 or 10 or 12? I, I, my 15 year olds graduated from high school at 15 years old.
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Scott Clary
But your kids are exceptional.
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Grant Cardone
Good. Because I, I was, because I wasn't.
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Scott Clary
Where they're at when I wasn't either.
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Grant Cardone
Because nobody was demanding me to be exceptional. People were making, they were making sense of me being a kid. Yeah, no, you know, so people would need to quit making. So I'm only 12, I deserve to be a kid. Bro, you're not going to be a kid forever. You're going to be an adult most of your life, okay? Like, learn how to be one, learn how to talk like them, be competent, be professional. What about just being a kid? What about the rest of your life? Okay? What about the rest of your life being a competent, professional person that tr you trust yourself so much because you made your bed. Like, why not make your bed every day, clean your stuff up, put your clothes up, like, learn some basic stuff that you're going to need later in life. But most importantly, you're going to need your confidence. And, and so whether it's 12, 25, 35, 45, 55, I don't know what old is? What is older? You, my young people. Really young people. What's old?
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Scott Clary
What's old to me?
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, what age? What. What's the first number that came to your head? No, no, no. What was the number? What was the number?
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Scott Clary
I was going to say 60.
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Grant Cardone
65 is old, dude.
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I'm 67.
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Scott Clary
I know. That's why. That's why you were editing, right?
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Grant Cardone
So you're editing. Like I said, what's the number? The number's instant. It comes to your mind. The answer is always instantly there, right? Like, I don't edit anything. You ask me a question, I answer. I'm not like, oh, let me see, what's the right answer here? Right? So. So you think 65 is old? Probably 60. You're probably going to say younger than that, actually, because you think 25 is young, you know, but the truth is, who knows? I. My older brother died when he was 25 years old. He was old, dude. He was old for his age for. For the time he had left. He was ancient. My. My father died when he was 52. So you. You don't know how long you're gonna last, do you? Might not make it back to Brickell this week. Today.
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Scott Clary
Yeah, that's scary.
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Grant Cardone
This might be the last time we see you.
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Unknown
God forbid.
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Grant Cardone
Rest in peace.
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Scott Clary
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Grant Cardone
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Scott Clary
What do you what do you tell parents when they're trying to raise their kids? You made a good point.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
You don't have to think that 2025 is is the right age. You can get your kids started early, young. Help them understand business. Help them understand and conduct themselves. Help them understand how to invest. But parents, a lot of parents don't do that. I don't think they're the norm. No, you're not the norm with the par.
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Grant Cardone
I don't know. I don't know. I watch my kids, you know. I know.
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Scott Clary
Outlier, huh? You're a good outlier is what I'm saying. You're not the normal parenting.
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Grant Cardone
Well, maybe. I mean, I don't know. You. Who. Who knows? It's yet to be determined whether I'm a good parent or not. We'll see what you know when they grow up and they start functioning in society and they Start, you know, going out on their own, doing their own deals, then, then we'll find out whether we got a really good product out of our kids or not. But, you know, when I'm watching my kids at 6 and 7, watch YouTube, I'm like, that can't be good for them. So now I could take the YouTube away from them, but then what are they going to do? Like, I need to spend time with them, you know, to like. Because I want them to hear what I'm doing now. Now. Just because I think what I'm doing is right.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
But what's your advice for parents on how to raise good kids? Well, you're being super kind and, and you're saying that we don't know. Listen, the way my advice to parents is phenomenal.
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Grant Cardone
My advice to parents is, is you, you cannot turn them over to YouTube and Facebook. Those are not nannies, okay? Or, or like I grew up on Tom and Jerry, TV. TV is just another. TV was an early form of YouTube. It's garbage, dude. You're watching garbage every day. Junk. You're being sold terrible foods, medications. One out of every three ads on any channel that you're on is going to be. You got hypertension, you got restless leg syndrome, do erectile dysfunction, do you have depression? Bipolar. Like, this is terrible. Your kids are being programmed with to believe these are normal things. They're terrible things and they're not even real. So get your kids off of TV. Get your kids off of YouTube. You got to get your kids active. You know, we took our kids out of school. I do not want my kids with your kids, no offense. That's how you're raising your kids. I don't want my kids with your kids. Your kids believe in all this made up diseases and I don't want my kids hearing from your kids what your kids have been programmed to believe. So. And it doesn't make me right. Like, I'm not making anybody wrong here. What I'm saying. We took our kids out of school. We took full responsibility for their education. We homeschool them. They're with us 365 days of the year almost. They're required to work for us since they were six years old. They have contracts to work for us. They have a list of things they have to do. They're happy kids, man. They're very socialized. You know, everybody's like, oh, they're not going to, they're not going to be socialized in the schools. Yeah, exactly. They're going to be socialized the way we want them educated. So. And, and again, I just want to like, preface all this by I am not giving parental advice. I'm just telling you how we raised our kids.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
But I like that you, I like that you have a different opinion than most. And it's not just with how you raise them. It's like you, you have, you have opinions about investing, about wealth, and you just reframe. You reframe in a way that I don't. Growing up, I didn't get access to the information about wealth, about investing for my parents. And again, nothing wrong with my parents. I love them so much.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah. Yeah.
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Scott Clary
But I did, you know, my dad worked for the government. Right. It's risk adverse 9 to 5. So I wish.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, yeah.
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Scott Clary
That I had a little bit more of your wisdom.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, yeah.
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Scott Clary
When I was young.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
So how do you, how do you, you know, how do you re. How do you fix your relationship with money and wealth if you come from that super risk adverse family?
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Grant Cardone
Well, you, You. I think you have to. You have to want it. I've, I'm. I've been obsessed with the concept of money since I was like 8 years old. I've always been interested in it. You know, I'm a kid watching. My dad had the power. Mom didn't have any. You know, I think women, women couldn't even get a damn credit card till like 1974 or something.
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Scott Clary
That's true.
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Grant Cardone
Is that true?
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Scott Clary
I don't know. That's wild.
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Grant Cardone
Let me ask, when did women first get a credit card? 1974.
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Scott Clary
Get out, dude.
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Grant Cardone
I was graduating from high school and, and, and kids. My mom couldn't have access to a credit card if she wanted to get a loan. She needed a husband or a brother. Why am I telling you that? Because how could. What? Women. Women have been left. Left alone in the finance department. Okay? My mom, the woman that raised me because my dad died when I was 10, didn't have access to a credit card. So that was suggesting that women didn't understand about money. The men were out working to take care of the women, and dad dies. I don't have anybody to teach me about money either. But I noticed this. My dad had control of the money. He's the one that decided what car we drove or had when we bought a house or didn't, how much money we could spend if we ever went to Disneyland, you know, and we did. We went to Disneyland one time. I had one trip in 10 years, and it was of his life. He knew it so I'm like, man, whoever's got the money, bro, makes the rules. And so I've been obsessed with the concept of money. So the first thing I would tell you is people need to make a decision whether they're, they want money or not. And I think most people have tapped out, Scott, on the money game. They're like, I'm not going to have it. The game's rigged. I just need to be happy. I'm just going to save, I'm just going to save what little bit I have rather than. No, I'm going to earn more and I'm going to create wealth for myself and my family. So I think that's what people need to decide first.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
They want to change. Do you even want to create wealth?
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Scott Clary
People do, I'm sure deep down.
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Grant Cardone
I don't think so.
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Scott Clary
You don't think so?
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Grant Cardone
No, I think most people have quit on it, the concept.
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Scott Clary
Do you think they quit because they don't know how?
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Grant Cardone
I think they quit because they don't believe they can be because they've been programmed to believe you can't be one of the wealthy people.
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Scott Clary
And money's for them, not for me. That's what they think money's for. The other, the 1%, the 0.01.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah. It's for some.
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Scott Clary
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
Group.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
Some specific race, you know, and I don't know how to get it, so I'm just going to take the job. I have, like, I would highly recommend to everybody to make wealth. One of your number one most important ambitions in life, to have wealth, to create tremendous amounts of prosperity for yourself and your family. Income, acquiring assets, passive income, massive appreciation. Like, have tremendous. Like, like I think a target for all married couples and individuals. Regardless of what your passions in life are, if you're an artist, your art, your, your, your goal would not be to be a starving artist, it would be to be a wealthy artist.
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Scott Clary
No. Of course. You know what happens in Toronto, this is what happened in Canada. In Toronto, cost of living is very high.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
Young, young people. Young people, whatever.
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Grant Cardone
There you go again. Yeah, yeah.
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Scott Clary
25, 30 year old people cannot buy a house.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
They can't buy detached home. So they're trying to buy a condo or they're renting a condo.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
And then they're getting married later if it's too expensive. They're having kids later because it's too expensive. And the thing about Toronto, which is even worse than New York or Miami or la, is the cost of living is going up and the jobs the salaries aren't going up in line.
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Grant Cardone
Right.
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Scott Clary
So now you have a single bedroom condo. That's a million dollars. But you can only make 70 grand out of university or college.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
How the are you gonna afford that if you don't have your parents giving you money? So now all of a sudden.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, yeah.
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Scott Clary
You feel like I, I just got to push my life back 10 years. So I'm 35. To start when my parents were doing it, when they were 20 years old. Right.
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Grant Cardone
But they, they didn't get ahead either.
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Scott Clary
No, they didn't get ahead. But now everyone feels lost and stressed out.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
And then this is where they have to start to relearn.
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Grant Cardone
You got to, you got to decide. You know, your parents thought that the middle class was just enough. They thought that owning a home, paying off your debts, preparing for retirement was going to be enough. They were wrong. This goes back to what we talked about earlier. Look, when you find yourself in a place in life where you're like, this is up. Okay? Whether that's, whether that's a drug addiction or you're like, wait a minute, dude, I'm working my ass off. These are just different problems. This is a high. Not even. It's a middle class problem, man. I'm working my butt off, man. I'm doing everything right. Yeah, y' all don't talk like that up there. But you. I'm doing everything right and, but I got nothing. I got no free time. I got no money. I'm stressed all the time. That's a middle class problem, right. What you want is some damn upper class or wealthy class problems. And if you're not looking for those problems, you're not going to have them any more than if you're not looking for a butterfly, you're probably not going to see one. So you got, you. You're going to get what you look for. Okay? And if you're just looking to get by, which most people in Canada are simply looking just to get by, I just want to be happy.
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Scott Clary
I think a lot of people looking.
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Grant Cardone
To get by Trudeau wasn't that bad. Like, guys, you have the highest tax rates in of almost any developed nation, the lowest wages. If we added Canada to America, you would be the second lowest state wages in the, in North America. You spent, you take the pst, the gst, you guys have more taxes. It feels like you're at a diddy party. Okay? You go from room to room. Take this, take this, take this, take this. Oh, my God. Damn, bro. Like, you know, you Guys just get like, bang, bang. And you get your little, you get your health insurance for free and you think, oh, we, we get health insurance. You're getting killed. And that's why I am for Canada joining America as the 51st state.
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Scott Clary
It's not just Canadians, it's not just Canadians that are stressed out trying to figure out life.
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Grant Cardone
Dude, it's all up.
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Scott Clary
It's all over.
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Grant Cardone
It's all over.
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Scott Clary
And I mean, we were fortunate that we had the ability to come down here. We had the resources, didn't hurt too much. We could change our whole life.
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Grant Cardone
You figured out how to get down here, though.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
You left Comfortable.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
To get, to move toward a dream.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
And that's what people should do. They should leave comfortable. Comfortable is an addiction too, by the way. Okay. Comfortable is a serious addiction. It allows you to socially drift through life. You don't even know you're on a drug, but you are. You're on a drug of like, I don't want to take risk. I don't want to feel stress. I. I just want enough. I just want everything to be perfect. Yeah, bro, you're living in a fantasy. You're addicted to a fantasy that does not exist. And sooner or later, you're going to feel economic stress in your life to retire, to take care of the bills, to take care of your parents. It might not even be you, by the way. You might not be driving Bugattis and Rolls Royce and all, but you find out, oh, your dad's got dementia and you got to put him in a place, and that place is going to cost 15 grand a month. And you weren't planning on $180,000 a year bill for the next 12 years.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
And if you're not expecting it, if you're doing better than all your friends.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
That's when comfort is the most dangerous. Because you're like, I have a business doing $5 million a year.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
Well, fuck. My friends are making $5 million a year, so I'm being comfortable.
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Grant Cardone
And they're all telling you, too, you're doing great.
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Scott Clary
Yeah, exactly. Now, you actually said something on Lewis. How's his podcast? The one I don't know. You've done a couple with him, but it was so interesting. You were talking to him when you first were trying to hit $100 million. You were hitting $100 million, and he's like, why not a billion?
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Right.
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Scott Clary
And that took you back, and then you were, like, thinking in your head about, why not a billion? Why not 10x?
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Grant Cardone
We were trying to buy. We were at that time, I think our target was to do a $100 million real estate deal.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
And he's like, well, why not 10 exit Mr. 10x? I said, dude, you're right. You know what. What am I thinking? But I was trying to figure, you know, I knew I could do 100 because I'd done 80.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
And so I was doing this incremental. This linear growth.
- [30:44]
Scott Clary
A lot of entrepreneurs fall into that trap, though.
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Grant Cardone
We all do it analytically. You're like, okay, I'm gonna take these little baby steps. I'm going to be conservative, particularly when you're starting to make it. You're. When you first make. When I first made a million dollars that I went into conservation.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
I did not go into hunger mode. I went into, like, okay, I got to conserve this million dollars. What you should. Which. What I should have done is, okay, I want to 10x this million. And so what Lewis was saying was, well, Grant, what. What if. A hundred. If. If you think 100, why not 10x that? And I'm like, okay, but what would I have to do to do a billion? Oh, I'd have to change my model. And changing my model, what I was doing, means I got to get out of my comfort zone. And. And comfort is a wicked, wicked addiction. Because, hey, I'm good. I don't want to mess anything up. I'm just finally getting grooved in here.
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Scott Clary
If you're hitting 100 million, there's only a few people that are going to tell you how to get To a billion.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
- [31:40]
Scott Clary
It's not like you can go to somebody on the street and they're gonna, like. You have to find. Be very specific. Yeah, but who you're gonna spend time with.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, I had a buddy, lost $6 billion last week.
- [31:50]
Scott Clary
Different level.
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Grant Cardone
I talked to him on Tuesday.
- [31:52]
Scott Clary
Yeah, he.
- [31:53]
Grant Cardone
He was up 17. He was up 5 billion. And in a day, I said, man, bro, what's it like to be you right now? Okay. He's like, it's wild, man. It's crazy. The guy I was with him two years ago, he was worth $2 billion. Went from 2 to 8, 8 to 13. And in the last two weeks, 13 to 22. Picked up $9 billion in two weeks. 5 billion in one day, and then lost 6 billion on Friday.
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Scott Clary
What's the difference?
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Grant Cardone
So the reason. I'm just telling you that is, like, this guy started selling cookies and mowing lawns, and he. Everything he's ever done, he just figured everything he's ever done worked, and he just figures out how to make work, dude. And he never gets satisfied. And if you met him, he's the most humble, most interesting guy. He's. He wants everybody to do well. He wants everybody to have abundance. He does. Like, you would not know. He doesn't drive big cars. He doesn't have his own plane. You'd never even know it, bro. Like, but. But. But the point I'm making about him, he's never stopped because he was comfortable.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
He was always reaching for another part of the game to play the game. It wasn't even about money at that level.
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Scott Clary
It's not about money. Yeah, that's not about money anymore. But what's the difference between that guy and 99 of entrepreneurs?
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Grant Cardone
Well, I mean, almost everything. Almost everything.
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Unknown
1.
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Grant Cardone
Well, I mean, the first thing I thought of is what's the difference between him and me? And. And the difference between him and me is the vehicle. The vehicle he's using is more explosive than the vehicle I'm in. Meaning. Meaning the. The. The vias I'm using to create wealth. And the things that are different for most people, by the way, is the vehicle that they're simply in. You're. You're in the wrong vehicle.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
If you want. If you have his mindset or my mindset, which is abundance and prosperity. And I want to take care of myself and my kids, but I'm already doing that. So now what? Well, I want to take care of a whole bunch of other people, too. Millions and millions of people. He wants to do that I want to do that. And maybe you're watching and you're like, yeah, I don't care about all that. Well, that's a problem. Yeah, I just want take care. You know, if you're thinking right now, I just want to take care of myself and my family and buy a condo and retire one day. Well, you're never going to do anything big because the dream's not big enough. But the difference for the three of us, these three groups of people, between me and Bob and me and the audience that might be watching at the end of the day, if you have the same mindset as the three of us, the difference is the vehicle. His vehicle is explosive. Mine's bigger than most people's, but it's still not. I don't have a paper event.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
Meaning a public event.
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Scott Clary
Always thought about that because you built, you built a traditional company before you went into real estate, that you're doing sales training, you're making a lot of money doing that. I was always curious, just from a strategic perspective, if you're talking to a young entrepreneur and they had like a look into your brain at the time, how did you decide to go into real estate versus to not just triple down on the thing that was already working versus investing in startups versus private equity. There's a million different things you can do and some of them do have ipo.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, I was making, at that time, I was making a million bucks a year. I couldn't spend, I couldn't make any more money doing what I was doing because I didn't have any more time. And I was scared to raise my prices anymore. And the audience, I don't think the audience would have paid anymore. I think I tapped out my audience. Yeah, I didn't have any more time. So time and money equals the multiple, the multiplier. Right. So I was in the wrong, I was in the wrong space. So I'm like, okay, I had extra surplus money. I'm like, I'm not going to reinvest in my business, is not going to grow my company. What do I do with the money? I did not understand startups. I had no connections, no Wall Street. I didn't understand Wall Street. I didn't. Nobody was telling me what to invest in. So I said, I'm gonna buy. I'm gonna invest in something that's. I know is not going to go away. And it was real estate. So I bought a 48 unit deal. Yeah, it worked well for me. I bought 38 units after that. Then I bought 92 units in like 90 days. I bought whatever that is, 140 units. And that was $5 billion ago.
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Scott Clary
Do you think that most people should, if they're just starting out, go down and follow the path that you went on or should they learn something else?
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Grant Cardone
Focus on the target. Your target should be monster people. I don't care where you are, you're handicapped, blind, can't walk, can't talk. I don't care what your freaking issues are. Your m. Whatever your target is 10x the target, make 100 exit. Okay? Then find out whether the business that you're in right now can actually get you the vehicle. The, the, the what you're driving right now can get you to that target. Okay. And if it can't, don't leave it yet, but start studying the thing that could get you there. So the first thing I wouldn't have done is I wouldn't. First of all, I wouldn't have been born in Lake Charles, Louisiana. I wouldn't have been born by a middle class family, okay. I would have been born in New York City by some Wall street firm family connected to Wall Street. I would have gone to school not at Macnee State University. I would have gone to school at Harvard, Yale or you know, one of these great schools. I'd been connected to the Obamas in the Bushes and the like, like if I could do my whole life over in the Trumps and, and then, you know, I'd know Tim Ackman and bro, I'd be Ray Dalio and I hung with these guys.
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Scott Clary
You can't do that. So what else would you read?
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Grant Cardone
Well, I'm just saying. But, but some of the people listening can. You guys are going to some third tertiary school in.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
In Midland, Texas and get out of school, bro, that school is not going to help you. This is insanity. You know, I got a group right now that wanted to make me part of their organization and hang me with this very distinguished medal. And they're like, they, they don't want to do it now because I tell people, don't go to college. I'm like, most people should not go to college. This is crazy that you're going to spend four or five or six years going to college, spending money, not earning income to, to, to, to learn something that you could literally open an iPad up and learn. So now are there some people that should go to college? 100. But most people should not be spending four, five, six years. And if you're gonna go to the best college, man, go to the best college, get the best degree you can in the shortest period of time possible and connect with the other players that are there. So what would I do different? I would not have gone into to selling automobiles. Once I became great at selling automobiles, I wouldn't have gone into training people how to sell cars. I would have bought car dealerships or I would have been a consulting, selling marketing, not training. I wouldn't have traveled 300 days of the year. Even though that built the character and the discipline and a whole bunch of characteristics that I have today that are great, like handling rejection and disappointment. Look bro, I can go on and on, okay? I would have never bought the 48 units and the 38 and then the 92 and then sold them. I would have accumulated another 3,000 or 4 or 5,000 units in San Diego. I would have never going back. I would have never bought it with my money. I should have raised money from the get go and I should have been a public company 20 years ago. Like what else you want me to tell you? No, it's good the things I did right. I waited for my wife to get the right wife, did a great, did a great job with my kids. I waited till I was 51 to have kids. I've never been bankrupt, never had a foreclosure, never asked Fannie or Freddie for extensions, forbearance. I've been in four lawsuits, cracked them all, beat, beat all of them into the ground. And I'm so proud of that. I've had four audits, won all my audits, tax audits. I've moved five or six times. Every move has been successful for me. I built a brand from scratch using YouTube and Facebook. I mean those are the things I did well. But I wouldn't do any of it again. Believe it or not, I wouldn't. Dude, I should be worth $20 billion today.
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Scott Clary
No, it's just funny because people just starting out like they look at what you've built and then they try and copy you. But I think that there's easier ways.
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Grant Cardone
So many, so many easier ways. Do not copy what I did. Do not go into coaching. We're not going to education.
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Scott Clary
Would you tell people to get a job to learn before, like even work for a startup to learn all this stuff before?
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Grant Cardone
No, I wouldn't tell them that. I would tell you, go, go work with somebody. Go get next to some grinder like me.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
There's not a lot of people like me, by the way. Go. Go get. You got. You got to find somebody that is successful and still wants to be successful. You got to find somebody with money and still wants to use money. Not somebody that's on the decline. Yeah, they can be on the decline. They can be very wise, have a lot of information. They could tell you great stories, share a lot of wisdom. But, bro, you want to be you. You. You don't have to be the first man. You could just be in the vehicle.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
And you.
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Grant Cardone
Like, I could have rolled with my buddy. Okay? I've known Bob for 12 or 15 years. I could have. When I met Bob, I could have dumped everything I was doing and roll with him and literally invested alongside him. I'd be worth probably six or seven or $8 billion today. Rolling with the dude. I don't have to be the driver. You guys don't need to be the boss. You don't need to be the startup. Warren Buffett never started.
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Scott Clary
True.
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Grant Cardone
Elon Musk never started a company.
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Scott Clary
Also true.
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Grant Cardone
Right?
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Scott Clary
Yeah.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Grant Cardone
So you don't have to be the man. You don't need to be. You don't need 50 investments. Steve Jobs had two investments when he died.
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Scott Clary
It's very good advice, because everybody's trying. It's very good advice. No, everyone's trying to be an entrepreneur. And I also don't think everybody wants.
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Grant Cardone
To be the boss.
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Scott Clary
Everybody wants to be.
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Grant Cardone
They got boss tags on their car. I'm like, that's so stupid. The women. What do they call themselves?
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Scott Clary
The CEOs.
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Grant Cardone
CEOs. And then there's another one. The. The girl boss. I'm like, dude, it's so dumb, because only people want to be.
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Scott Clary
It's the ego. People should care about making money, not just serving their own ego. Doing this startup, I work for myself.
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Grant Cardone
I'm like, that's a way of saying you don't have any customers. Do you always work for the customer you have? You have a customer you have to work for. There's. Donald Trump does not work for himself. He works for the American people. Half of them hating. Half of them love him. And that's kind of what it's going to be like in. In.
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Scott Clary
In.
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Grant Cardone
In life.
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Scott Clary
Why I hate the idea of self made because everybody, everybody's built anything. Customers, investors.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
Co founders, employees. Nobody's done it on their own.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, everybody can be wealthy. Like I believe this with every cell of my body. Everybody on planet Earth. Eight Billion people. I don't care where you are, who you are, what your problems are. Short of maybe the Gaza Strip or Ukraine today, you could be create wealth, okay? And even the people in Ukraine could. But you're going to have to leave Ukraine. You're not going to get wealthy in Ukraine today. And you, you have to one, you have to want it too. You got to be willing to leave everything you have if you're not willing to walk away like you did from Toronto. Yeah, you got to walk away from everything you have. The friends this started for me when I was 25, goes back to what I said earlier in the story with my drug addiction. I had to leave my friends, the girlfriend, everything that was comfortable. The bars, the clubs, the house I lived in, Everything, bro, I had to walk away from it all. I have never had success in my life, not a next level success, without leaving something I loved.
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Scott Clary
And you have to know that it's all on you. No one's coming to save you. No government's coming to save you. No. No friends coming to save you. It's absolutely coming to save you.
- [48:53]
Grant Cardone
But they ain't coming to save me.
- [48:54]
Scott Clary
You know what I'm talking about?
- [48:54]
Grant Cardone
I just don't. Nobody's ever come to save me.
- [48:57]
Scott Clary
No one's coming to save me.
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Grant Cardone
They might be coming for you guys, but they ain't never coming for me or Scott.
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No.
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Scott Clary
No, you gotta. It's. It's ownership over your own.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah. Yeah.
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Scott Clary
Really?
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
And if you want to make money, if you want to make wealth, if you want to. If you want to build a company, if you want to go work with somebody who's grinding out, and you don't have to be the number one, because number two, number three, whatever.
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Grant Cardone
But some people can't do that. They're like, I got to be number one. Number one of what?
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Scott Clary
Doesn't matter.
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Grant Cardone
Number one of what?
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Scott Clary
It's your personal responsibility over your situation.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah, I totally agree.
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Scott Clary
That's it. That's really it. One thing that I love that you speak about a lot is Elena and you speak about your, you know, your marriage and how strong it is and how important it is. And I don't think that's discussed enough. When you have that person at home. That is the. The biggest difference. That is the one thing that I think that most people don't pay enough attention to.
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Grant Cardone
Yeah.
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Scott Clary
The right partner.
- [49:45]
Grant Cardone
I don't. I don't too. I mean, I, you know.
- [49:48]
Scott Clary
What do you mean you don't.
- [49:49]
Grant Cardone
I mean, I don't. I Don't. I don't. Like, if I, I, if I was very honest, I do not do a good enough job as a husband.
- [49:59]
Scott Clary
Why do you say that?
- [50:00]
Grant Cardone
Because I don't. I, I know. You know, I would rate. One of my lowest scores in life is as a husband. I don't see that myself, as a father. Dude, I'm a freaking, like, I am a great father. As a friend. Like, 60 on a scale of 100. I'm not a great friend. Okay. Relationships. Yeah. Transactions. Oh, dude, I'm like 99. I'm a transaction guy. I love transactions.
- [50:33]
Scott Clary
You can't tell me that. That it's easier to build when you're single.
- [50:36]
Grant Cardone
Golf, I'm like a 65 or 70, but I like to play the game. Right. But I only go out there to do deals.
- [50:42]
Scott Clary
I get it.
- [50:43]
Grant Cardone
No, you know, you can't. Meeting people, meeting new people and socializing. Terrible at it.
- [50:47]
Scott Clary
Yeah, but I don't like it. But you don't think there's an advantage to having that relationship?
- [50:52]
Grant Cardone
No, there is. I'm just telling you I'm not great at it. So you're asking me about relationship advice, and I'm like, you're asking a guy who's not that great at it.
- [50:58]
Scott Clary
I'm asking you to say if it's important or not.
- [51:01]
Unknown
Yeah, it's very.
- [51:03]
Grant Cardone
Bro. Of course. Come on. You. I, you know, we're living together, we're sleeping together, we're. We're waking up together, going to bed together, like, sharing kids together. Like, like, you either get that right or you don't.
- [51:16]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [51:17]
Grant Cardone
And it's going to be with you every day. The only thing more important than that is probably your relationship with yourself. So, like, that's the other thing. Like, what's that relationship like? Everybody's talking about the other person.
- [51:29]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [51:29]
Grant Cardone
What about the one with themselves? How do you feel about yourself? Because if I don't get that right, I'm not having a relationship with somebody else that's going to be Right. I'm just, I'm brutally honest, dude. Okay.
- [51:39]
Scott Clary
Like, do you feel like yours is good with yourself?
- [51:43]
Grant Cardone
Oh, yeah, it's good with myself.
- [51:44]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [51:45]
Grant Cardone
Yeah. But. But most people don't. Most people, though, like, the world I live in is so lonely, bro. Okay. Because. Because nobody. And I mean nobody. When, when under pressure, under certain situations, very recent situations, by the way. Partners, employees, spouses, everybody's like, I don't think this is the right play right here. Of course you don't, dude. I'm the one that Knows this playbook, okay? This is my playbook. This is what I have to do. And at that moment, you're by yourself, okay? So you guys that think I'm gonna have a wife, you might think Gina's gonna support you. Gina's not going to support you all the time. There's going to be times in life when you hit a point. No one is going to support you, and you're doing the right thing. You're going to be doing the right thing, and everyone is going to be like, not this time, Scott. Can't support you in this one, bro, because they don't know what you're going through at that moment. They don't know what's right for you at that moment. And so there's going to be times in life, bro, where everybody. And that's where you better be certain about yourself being right. I'm not talking about a narcissist now or arrogance or some, you know, stupid amount of self confidence or delusion. This is in life where you got to know you're right more often than you're wrong. And you have a track record of being right more often than you're wrong.
- [53:18]
Scott Clary
How do you trust yourself to make the right call?
- [53:20]
Grant Cardone
Do the right thing, bro, and make sure it works. It's what I call my daughter. Work builds confidence. Consistent work builds more confidence. And work that wins builds even more confidence. So you might have seen some of these lawsuits that I was in, right? And everybody's like, why? Why is it. Why is he getting so public? Why is he letting people know about this lawsuit? There was one last year, one this year. I've only been in four or five lawsuits in my whole career.
- [53:46]
Scott Clary
Public. They're loud.
- [53:47]
Grant Cardone
Didn't start any of them, by the way. Didn't start any of them. They did. And then I try to try to settle it quietly, and it doesn't go away. And then I'm like, okay, well, now I have to go Grant Cardone. Okay? So that's when you find out how much gangster you got in you. But the problem with the gangster, the problem with the real baller, the problem with the guy that really goes hard, okay, that it's that Tom Brady, it's the end of the game thing. The. The. These people are not. Are buying themselves in that moment. And this is something no one can ever tell you, you can never be prepared for. That's when you got to trust you that you're doing the right thing. I'm doing something right now. It'll come out here. In the next week, maybe. Maybe four days. Might be this week. I can.
- [54:30]
Scott Clary
Should have interviewed you next week after. We could have done a lot.
- [54:33]
Grant Cardone
I'll give you a little tease on.
- [54:34]
Scott Clary
All right, give it.
- [54:35]
Grant Cardone
I'll give you a little tease. Hold on. Let me, let me, let me look it up. It's on my phone right now, unfortunately. Oh, yeah. The tease is. It's my time. Okay. It's my time. I'll send you the photo next week.
- [54:50]
Scott Clary
Send it.
- [54:51]
Grant Cardone
So there's a lot of stuff that happens when people are doing stuff like I do behind the scenes that, you know, you. You never know about. And then when it pops. Right when it, when it, when it happened. You look great, man. No more about it.
- [55:10]
Unknown
I'm trying.
- [55:12]
Grant Cardone
Okay. You got easily cleaning stuff up every. Getting the wrinkles. Yeah, he looks good. Okay. And there's things that happen behind the scenes that people don't know, and then all of a sudden, it pops to the front and you're like, why did he push that in this case? Why did Grant make that public? Okay, well, there's a reason why I made it public. I'm not stupid. But everybody around you. Do you. You know how lonely Donald Trump must be?
- [55:41]
Scott Clary
I have no doubt, dude.
- [55:42]
Grant Cardone
Do you think Melania supports him every 100 of the time?
- [55:48]
Scott Clary
She probably thinks he's crazy for even doing this.
- [55:51]
Grant Cardone
Everybody thinks he's crazy, bro. Everybody's got to think he's crazy. There is no way that guy's doing what he's doing on a daily that he gets support from everybody around him. It's impossible. First of all, there's too many people to have that much. You can't get that much support. Everybody else around him has their own opinion.
- [56:09]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [56:10]
Grant Cardone
So any. If you're in a leadership position, you're going to be in a situation one day where you got to go take a hill. You got to go. You got to go take. You're going to be on a mission and you're going to look up. There's going to be a whole bunch of people around you, behind you, bro. You're by yourself, okay? You're the leader. They ain't 50 leaders. There's a leader. And if you need to check with everybody else about the right thing to do right now, you ain't a leader. So. Because when you check with them and say, hey, what do you guys think you're going to get? No, no, no, don't do that. But that's not the right thing to do. I mean, I don't know what the right thing to do for you is. I just know when I go, you.
- [56:47]
Scott Clary
Got to trust yourself.
- [56:48]
Grant Cardone
Regardless of bro, you got to trust yourself. And you better be. You better be right. You need to be right more often than you're wrong by 10x.
- [56:57]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [56:58]
Grant Cardone
That means you need to be right a lot. Okay? So that's why I said no bankruptcies, no foreclosures, no defaults, no forbearance. Never. Like, I have a list of nevers. Never forbearance, never a bankruptcy, never a foreclosure, Never, Never, never laid on a bill, okay? Never. I was laid in one bill. And guess what? I never paid the guy. And I never will pay the guy, okay? Never lost the lawsuit. Not the first one, the second one, the third one, the fourth one, or the fifth one. So. Been in an audit with the irs. Four of them never lost. Never lost. Never lost and never lost. So you got. You gotta. I know that's gonna sound arrogant to people, but the point I'm trying to make is, bro, you guys got to make winning important. Don't start a fight you can't finish. Don't start a damn litigation you can't win because it's going to look bad. You know, don't start a fight with your wife that you can't win. It's just a waste of time because you got other battles that you need to have. And so this is where me. Back to the relationship question. Me and my wife do well mostly when we're worried only about beating back the enemy. And remember, she's not the enemy.
- [58:08]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [58:08]
Grant Cardone
You know, there's an enemy and there's a target. Okay. And, and our. When we are doing best, 21 years we've been married, we are focused on the target and the enemy, not each other.
- [58:19]
Scott Clary
I think that's so important. Yeah. Like, this is the stuff, right? Like we'll. We'll land this plane in a second. But I just want to say for entrepreneurs out there who are listening to this relationship is important. It's not going to be perfect all the time, but it's going to be better than not being in a relationship or being married to somebody who's a good supporting party.
- [58:36]
Grant Cardone
Yeah.
- [58:37]
Scott Clary
You have to find a way. You have to find a way to just take ownership over all the. That you're going to deal with. And then. Yeah. You know, people say everyone has to fail, but what you're telling me is like, you know what? You gotta, you gotta win. You gotta win. If you're an honest.
- [58:52]
Grant Cardone
You gotta be in the game, dude. And you don't have to fail. You. You should be in the game and win. You should make winning like an addiction.
- [58:59]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [58:59]
Grant Cardone
You know, the. The back to the relationship thing, too. Like the Bill Belichick thing. He's 76 years old and she's 25 or something. It's 51 years, bro. I saw something this morning. I'm like. I can't even think with it. Being single. Like, I have made so much more money as a family man than I ever made single. So that your family's not going to. They're not going to hold you back. They're going to make you better.
- [59:25]
Scott Clary
Thousands.
- [59:26]
Grant Cardone
Particularly the kids. The kids are going to make you more creative. My wife. My wife has a. If you pick the right spouse, dude, they're going to. They. They have. You think if they really believe in you.
- [59:34]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [59:36]
Grant Cardone
I. I don't even know that my wife really, really believes in me. I just think my wife believes that I am the one that can actually make happen. And so she just dreams of these big ideas. She. She doesn't really care how bloody I have to get in the process. She's just. No, I think I can throw him out there and he can do it.
- [59:59]
Scott Clary
You do do it.
- [60:00]
Grant Cardone
I do do it, dude.
- [60:01]
Scott Clary
So it's better than somebody who thinks small.
- [60:03]
Grant Cardone
Yeah, yeah.
- [60:03]
Scott Clary
It's always better than somebody who thinks small.
- [60:05]
Grant Cardone
You want to. Because. But it gets a little exhausting, right? Because I'm like, God damn, dude. Like, we can do this. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. You can do this. She's. You can do this. But that's her we.
- [60:17]
Unknown
Yeah, her.
- [60:17]
Grant Cardone
We is. I gotta go do it.
- [60:20]
Scott Clary
Last thing I want to ask.
- [60:21]
Grant Cardone
Yeah, and she's awesome, by the way. Elena.
- [60:24]
Scott Clary
I know.
- [60:24]
Grant Cardone
Phenomenal human being.
- [60:25]
Scott Clary
She.
- [60:25]
Unknown
She.
- [60:26]
Scott Clary
She is like her own.
- [60:27]
Grant Cardone
Yeah.
- [60:28]
Scott Clary
She's a force. She's a bitter. But that's why when you pair up with the right person.
- [60:31]
Grant Cardone
Yeah.
- [60:32]
Scott Clary
That's what. That's what is magic. Truly magic.
- [60:34]
Grant Cardone
Yeah.
- [60:36]
Scott Clary
Two things. Two things to close this out. First. I was. I was actually told to ask this because apparently you give a different answer every single time. This is a fun question.
- [60:45]
Grant Cardone
Oh, yeah.
- [60:46]
Scott Clary
You just got to tell. You got to tell the audience something that you've never told anybody before. Something about you that nobody knows.
- [60:55]
Grant Cardone
I can't do that one.
- [60:57]
Scott Clary
I thought you said you don't edit.
- [60:59]
Grant Cardone
Yeah, but I am in this case, something I've never told anyone before.
- [61:08]
Scott Clary
You could lie to me, I wouldn't even know.
- [61:10]
Grant Cardone
But no, I'M trying to think about something. I've never told any. It's kind of a hard question for me because I've talked about so much of my life.
- [61:19]
Scott Clary
All right, what's an idea on your mind right now that you haven't actually.
- [61:23]
Grant Cardone
Yeah, I'm. I'm second guessing the whole California thing, you know, know whether I want to do that right now. So I've been to California three times to go see if I could wake up the state to flip it red. And right now I'm waking up this morning saying, man, I got too many other things going on. I don't have any business doing that. I don't even know if I want to tell anybody that.
- [61:46]
Scott Clary
But we can.
- [61:47]
Grant Cardone
I don't know if it can be flipped. I don't know if it can be flipped. I mean, I would go there if I could flip it if I knew I could flip it if I knew the people wanted to do this. I know the people running right now over there for the Republicans at. There's no way they can pull it off. They're. They're just not charismatic enough. They're not energetic enough. They're not thinking outside the box big enough. They're not, they're not killers. So they're not going to pull it off. So it makes me feel obligated, like, dude, you could go up there and make a difference. I actually think I could win it. And I think it's very, very important. It's the third or fourth largest economy on planet Earth is phenomenal. It's a great resource, huh?
- [62:25]
Scott Clary
It's terrible, dad. California used to be amazing.
- [62:28]
Grant Cardone
Unbelievable.
- [62:29]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [62:29]
Scott Clary
And now it's all gone downhill.
- [62:30]
Grant Cardone
So maybe I'll just. Maybe I'll just, you know, redirect Canada from the prime minister.
- [62:37]
Scott Clary
Okay. And you could be your first project.
- [62:40]
Grant Cardone
Yeah. Yeah.
- [62:41]
Scott Clary
And last question.
- [62:42]
Grant Cardone
Yeah.
- [62:42]
Scott Clary
You know, you've given over a lot of wisdom and advice. If you had to pick the most important piece of wisdom and the context is you're going to pass this lesson on to your kids.
- [62:50]
Grant Cardone
Yeah.
- [62:50]
Scott Clary
You have to pick one.
- [62:51]
Grant Cardone
Yeah.
- [62:51]
Scott Clary
What is that lesson and what.
- [62:53]
Grant Cardone
You will never get anything great without leaving something good.