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Keion Henderson - Faith Leader & Visionary | How Life's Struggles Prepare You for Your Calling
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Keon Henderson
Being a 12 year old wanting to play basketball on the middle school basketball team. Then when I started playing, I started having these massive chest pains only to find out I have a hole in my heart the size of a quarter. Keon Henderson is the founder and senior pastor of the Lighthouse Church in Houston, leading a community of over 15,000 members and reaching hundreds of thousands online each week. My mom took me to church, six months later that machine was off of me and I was playing basketball. God is the source, but he also leads you, as the scripture says, to paths so you still have human responsibility in every shift in your life. You just have to be a resilient person and then you add faith on it the size of a mustard seed and then you can move mountains. Starting his ministry journey at just 14, he's also a best selling author of the Shift in Lazy Love and the founder of the L3 conference focused on leadership, learning and lifestyle. I get that question all the time. People say, yeah, but it's hard. It is hard. And that's why everybody doesn't do it. We all are born an incredible amount of talent beyond the pulpit. He's an entrepreneur, motivational speaker and humanitarian recognized by the John Maxwell Institute and nominated for a CNN Heroes Award. In this episode, we explore K on's powerful journey of purpose, growth and leading with faith. Sometimes you have to stop fighting the environment and you have to succumb to it so that you can find your bearings. If you're going to be a leader, you have to be a reader. You have to feel your best physically to feel your best mental.
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Scott Clary
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Keon Henderson
Man, I think every one of the shifts did that. Let me think back to the first one. The first shift that I ever remember was being a 12 year old wanting to play basketball on the middle school basketball team. And I remember telling my mom that I finally wanted to play basketball. She supported it. And then when I started playing, I started having these massive chest pains and didn't know what that was all about. We didn't have health insurance. I'd never been to a doctor. So what we did in our house is like you just, you tried to figure a way around every sickness, you know, you. And so it wasn't going to the doctor wasn't an automatic assumption. Right. So we just tried to figure it out. It kept happening, kept happening every time I would play basketball, shortness of breath this sharp chest pain, go to the doctor, only to find out that I have a hole in my heart the size of a quarter. And so the doctor told my mother that I would never be a very active kid, that I would never be able to play basketball, Things of that nature. That was the first shift. And I remember telling my mom very young, like, mom, we need to get a second opinion. Like, we need somebody else to tell us if we can do this. Because, like, I feel like I can do this. I feel like I'm supposed to. I love, love the game. Like, I can't tell you how much I loved it. So we were able to get a second opinion and the doctor put a monitor on me. So I was the kid in school walking around the hallways with this big strap. You know, the technology wasn't so good then. This huge strap around my shoulder, like a man purse, right? And it's got this big, huge mechanical device hanging from the side. And every time I felt a chest pain, I had to hit a button and that was it recording what was happening. And I remember, man, I remember when it first got on, I was pushing that button all the time. And I would cry like, man, I'm never going to play basketball. Long story short, I don't know what happened. My mom took me to church, had people at church, pray over me, and six months later, that machine was off of me and I was playing basketball and I was on the beat. I was on the B team, right? I was on the B team. I wasn't yet on the, on the A team, but I eventually left college as a starter at a Division 1 school. So that was my first big shift starting out, being told I wouldn't be able to play, leading out one of the best on my team. And so that was, that was a good shift for me.
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Scott Clary
That's huge. That's absolutely huge. Most people, I mean, you've gone through a lot of, a lot of difficulty in your life. I think that most people, when they think about these, you know, these types of stressful life situations that, that happen to all of us, I think that most people don't look at them as transformation opportunities. They look at them and they run away as far as, as quick as possible. Or if they can't run away from them, what ends up happening is they let that thing rewrite their story in the worst way possible.
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Keon Henderson
Wow. Wow. That's huge. That's huge because you do have. You do have two options. Fear can make you forget everything you're on, right? F E A R That's what fear can do. Or it can make you face reality and recognize that this is an opportunity. And that's, that's really. And I know you know this. That's really the only difference between those who are successful and those who are not. Those who won in life went through their circumstance with optimism, and those who didn't went through it with pessimism. That's really the secret. And everybody's trying to read books and find out, well, how did you know? How did such and such do this? And, you know, they'll, they'll look at you and try to figure out, how did you get a successful podcast? Well, you just kept going when everybody else quit. Right. I'm sure that that were moments where, you know, the numbers were not where you wanted them to go, but you just. Yeah. So you forget everything and run. Or you, you, you face everything and realize that, that you can do it.
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Scott Clary
Let's answer. Sort of the elephant in the room. Obviously, obviously, it's easier said than done to have something negative happen to you and just realize that this could be a blessing.
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Keon Henderson
Right.
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Scott Clary
It's just, it's nice to talk about it on a podcast. But when people come to you and they're going through shifts in their life, what is the thing that they have to. Or what did you have to lean on to make it through the most difficult parts of the difficult times? What is the thing they have to. Is it. Is it God? Is it self belief? Is it. What is the most important idea? Then we'll unpack that a little bit.
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Keon Henderson
Yeah. So obviously, for me, as a man of faith, it's going to be God. But I want to make sure that I curtailed that with some flexibility. And by that I mean God is the source. But he also leads you, as the scripture says, to paths. Right? That's Psalms 23. He leads you through paths of righteousness. So. So you still have human responsibility in every shift in your life. You see, because, like, and I'm going to be talking about it, I've got a minister here in California today, and I'm talking about the four stages of a miracle, and every one of them required human responsibility. So whether you're a person of faith or whether you're agnostic, whether you're an atheist, because there are still ways to scale and make money and make shifts in life without God. I'm not saying that I believe the outcomes are going to be apropos, but there are a lot of people in the world who have tons of money and never Read the Bible, right? So, so when you, when you, when you boil it down to what does it take to make it through the, the, the physical aspect of life, human responsibility. That there is no mystical formula, not even for those of us who believe in God. We don't just lift our heads and say, hey God, you know, send a million dollars and it just comes out of the sink when we turn the water on. You're still going to have to put the ax to the grind. You still got to work. You still have to believe. You still have to be self motivated, you still have to be self driven, you still have to navigate life's transitions. You still have to be resilient. You still have to find purpose. And none of that is either existent or non existent because I'm a man of faith. So when you ask me the question, what do I tell people? I don't care what you believe in. These are things you're going to have to do. These are things you're going to have to do. There isn't a, you know, a Christian dollar bill and a Muslim dollar bill. You know what I mean?
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Scott Clary
Good point.
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Keon Henderson
You know, there isn't, there isn't a Buddhist resilience and a agnostic resilience. You just have to be a resilient person and then you add faith on it the size of the mustard seed and then you can move mountains.
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Scott Clary
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Keon Henderson
I think it has. That's a great question. I think it has to be a beautiful balance. And when, when I hear you say the word crutch, I would summarize it by saying that I think that there are some folks who use their relationship with God as a way of not having to show up for themselves, right? So it's like, hey, God, I'll give an example. There's a miracle in the Bible, man, that been laying on the bed for 38 years. There are some who would use their relationship with God to say, hey, God, come and pick me up off of this bed. I've been here for 38 years. But the story says that Jesus tells the man, pick up your bed and walk. Human responsibility. So even though God was there, God didn't pick him up, nor did he pick up the bed. He told him to pick up the bed because God has to make sure that we have the faith, the drive, the resilience, and the purpose to continue to move even in moments where we cannot feel him. So, yes, I think a lot of folks will use their relationship with God to be an end all, be all but. And I know it'll be a controversial statement, but I can go through, Scott, I can go through every miracle in the Bible and prove that human responsibility was necessary. Okay, let's take the one that everybody knows. Jesus turns water to wine. But what does he tell them? He says, go and bring the water pots to me. Human responsibility. He didn't bring the water pots to the. You go bring the water pots to me and then I'll do it. The man who was blind, God tells him, you have to go wash your eyes in the pool. The man who had the hand that was atrophy, God says, you got to stretch forth your hand. The woman who had the issue of blood, she went 12 years trusting doctors until she got to Jesus. And he says to her, hey, do you want to be made old? She says to herself, if I could just touch the hem of his garment. See? Human responsibility. If I could touch the hem of his garment, I'll be made. There is a human component no matter what your faith is to all transition, resilience, breakthrough in purpose. There is always a human component that's Necessary.
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Scott Clary
I love that. I think that's such an important message, too. I think that before we even get further, what we were even just talking about before we press record, you know, you mentioned that this book, the Shift, this is a re release of a book that you put out, you said four years ago, and you've written other. I mean, you've written other books since. And I thought that was an interesting story, how, you know, people will bring you some of the other books you've written, or they go to a book signing for one of the other books, but then they'll bring you this book and they'll be like, this changed my life. Like, please sign this. You know, this has been incredible. So I think that it's interesting to touch on sort of the anatomy of what a shift is, why it's so important, why this idea resonates with so many people. I'm sure you have. I'm sure you have a couple thoughts, because there's something about the idea of a shift, of going through these massive transformative moments in your life that is so powerful that literally, out of all the incredible work you do, people are still saying, hey, this was the book that had the most impact on my life. Why do you think that is?
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Keon Henderson
Yeah, because I think that the one thing that is inevitable in all of our lives, we won't all be rich, we won't all be poor, we won't all be born black, we won't all be born white, we won't all be affluent, we won't all be struggling. Everybody won't be fit, everybody won't be not fit. But we all will go through a transition. I don't care what spectrum you fall on. You could live in the hills of Hollywood or you can live on the streets of Gary, Indiana, where I came from, you're going to go through a shift. So embracing change, embrace, as opposed to resisting change, is the emphasis that the books put on. Because change is inevitable. But not only is it inevitable, it's necessary. It's necessary. The tree can't spare a seed forever, right? The oak tree can't stay in acorn forever. If you stay in the original form of which you were planted, you'll never flourish into what you were meant to be. So in this book, I'm encouraging the readers to lean into the shift rather than to resist it. One of my mentors tells me a story about his brother who, when he was younger, used to ride motorcycles and his wife used to ride motorcycles with him. And you probably notice, Scott, it's Like when you are on the back of a bike or motorcycle with somebody, you have to lean the same direction as them. My wife and I will go jet skiing and she don't really like the water, so I'm going left and she's leaning right. And I'm like, no, baby, you got to lean with me this way. Because if you don't lean with the turn, you'll tip it. It's the same way with life. If you don't lean into the change, if you don't lean into the turn, then you're going to tip the boat. And you have to trust that every season has a purpose and you got to lean into.
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Scott Clary
Makes sense. It's very scary when you're living it. What. What do people. Why do people not lean into it? You've like, this is a. This is a. I love this idea. This, you know, the get out of your comfort zone. You have to go through these, these hard periods of your life to get only everything worth doing is on the other side of a, you know, hard work, hard conversation. Some. All these ideas are so powerful, yet people still shy away from them their entire life. So these ideas, these ideas, people know them. They know that there's going to be change and shifts in their life. But for some reason, we negotiate with ourselves. We negotiate with ourselves until we die. So there is a huge mental block when somebody stays in a job or a relationship or in a circumstance that does not serve them quite literally until they're no longer on this earth. What is this block? What's. What's going on?
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Keon Henderson
Yeah, I think there are several blocks. That's a question that I can see a Lego amount of Legos. It could be the block of, you know, imposter syndrome. It could. It could be the block of inadequacy and insecurity. It can be the block of character versus personality. So none of us have the same block. But here's the deal. I get that question all the time. People say, yeah, but it's hard. It was hard for the person who did. Is hard. And that's why everybody doesn't do it. It is hard, and that's why everybody doesn't reach it. It is hard, which is why there are all stars in basketball and people who sit at the end of the bench and have to cheer. We all are born with an incredible amount of talent. Right. For those of us. And I'm not talking about people who were born with. And God bless them with the severity of a handicap. Right. Or something that holds them back. I'M talking about folks who can actually function psychologically in their everyday life without the assistance of medical attention. Obviously we understand that there are some folks in life who have been disadvantaged, but if you and everybody's watching social media now, there are folks who were born disadvantaged who've gotten the slight edge on folks who don't have disadvantages. I mean, I can't think of the guy's name. He spoke for me one time. I wish I could think of him. He has no legs.
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Scott Clary
Nick Santa Nistaso.
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Keon Henderson
Nick spoke for me at a conference.
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Scott Clary
And literally he's from Florida. I know him.
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Keon Henderson
Wow.
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Scott Clary
Incredible.
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Keon Henderson
He inspired me so much. Nick. I never, I never met Nick. I just saw him online and had our team to reach out to him. This guy is an itinerant speaker. Like he's everywhere around the world. He somehow thought it kind enough to come to our church and spoke, sat on the edge of a step at our stage with no legs, a partial arm, and tore the room upside down and is quite honestly making huge amounts of money right now, speaking all over the world who literally could have said I have no legs, no arms and so I'm not going to do anything. That's what I mean by leaning into the ship. He took what he had, he leaned into it and he made something of himself. Folks listening today, I understand it as hard and I don't think Scott nor I are saying that it is easy. But what we are saying is you can do it. And how we know you can do it is because somebody with the same set of circumstances or the lack thereof that you have, they did it. Which means you can too.
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Scott Clary
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Keon Henderson
It taught me that I have to be brave because I was so scared. I was so scared. I thought if he rejects me, I'm going to crumble. If he, if he denies it Then he's telling me, my mother's a liar, because she's the one that told me he was. I had all of the anxiety you could imagine, but I manned up, Scott, at 12 years old, and went up to a fully grown man who I had tremendous amounts of respect and fear for as a pastor. And I looked him in his face and I said, are you my father? And within three seconds, that man said, yes. And so it taught me courage because I got my first big yes because I wasn't too afraid not to receive a no.
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Scott Clary
Yeah.
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Keon Henderson
In fact, I tell folks that you normally have to go through nine no's to get to one yes. So you have to calculate it in your mind that whatever you're seeking, whatever you're seeking to find out, wherever you need the validation from, whether it's for me, it was a father. For you may. It may be an income level. For somebody else, it may be, you know, a million subscribers on YouTube. For somebody else, it may be the. The corner office. You know, do I go and interview for the. For the. For the next position above me. Whatever it is, you have to be willing to be told no to get to a yes. If the only answer you want is yes, then stay at home and give them to yourself. But if you step out in that real world, somebody's going to tell you no. But you don't stop at that. You lean into it. You lean into it, and it's like. You know, when I was in the eighth grade, I never will forget, I played for a AAU team, and we went to the Radisson Hotel in Maryville, Indiana. I couldn't swim. I couldn't swim. So all of the kids was. All my brothers on the basketball team, they were in the swimming pool jumping around. Scott, I can't swim, so I'm standing back. One kid comes and pushes me in, pushes me in the deep end of the pool, and I'm just fighting for my life. I'm screaming and I'm, get me out of here. Get me out. Going up. And it was only about 8ft, so I was able to hit the bottom and then jump up. And I heard one of the lifeguards said, stop fighting. Stop fighting. I didn't realize that he wasn't going to jump into the water while I was fighting because I could have drowned both of us. Us.
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Scott Clary
So you knock him out or you pull them down? Yeah.
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Keon Henderson
Yeah. I didn't know it at the time. He waited until I relaxed, and the moment I relaxed, he had me out of the water. In what seemed like five seconds. Sometimes you have to stop fighting the environment and you have to succumb to it so that you can find your bearings. And then when you're brought out, you come out with more knowledge. Like I'm talking to you about. I didn't learn that in swimming class. I learned it in a drowning incident. So there's some things you learn in the fight that you don't learn on the shore. So you got to lean into it. You got to lean into it. I didn't learn that sitting in a lawn chair. I didn't learn that. I could still see the hotel right now. I can still see the seats, I can still see the kidney shaped swimming pool. I can still see the waterfall coming down the rocks. I went there for that. I left there with this story. I went for enjoyment. I left with a testimony. So you have to lean into it and you have to survive it.
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Scott Clary
So when people have the courage to lean into these shifts and they lean into them again and again and again until they get to the yes or they get to the desired outcome. I always thought that that would be sort of a good proof point that if you lean into the uncomfortable for a long enough period of time, you're going to get to the other side of it. But one thing that you mentioned, and I'm curious what, what you mean by this. And I, I believe that it's probably because two ideas can be true at the same time. So you describe that life is a series of shifts, but you can't build your life on your last shift. And that's interesting because I would have thought the last shift is proof that taking risks and doing the hard, uncomfortable things actually can work. But you're saying you can't just rest on that. What do you mean by that?
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Keon Henderson
I mean that. So, yeah, I'm a sports guy and it's, it comes from a sports background. Like coach Bobby Miles, my high school coach, he would always tell us, you're no good, no better than your last win. So I was taught, I was taught that like, okay, you won, you won the last game, but you don't show up the next game as a winner. You're, you're not automatically guaranteed to win the next game because you won the last game. You show up as a competitor the next game and you have to prove that you're a winner again. And then you get past that and then you show up at the next game and you have to prove that you are a winner again. Every game starts.00. So you don't walk in the room with a. With a head start because you won the last shift, right? So you embrace change, but you also overcome setbacks. And like you said, they both have to be true at the same time, because the mindset that caused the problem that you have is not going to be the same mindset that solves the issue that you have. You know, it's. It's the mindset that you have that caused the current problem that you are now facing. You cannot solve the problem you are facing with the same mindset that caused it. So then you have to shift and you have to think about a bigger prospectus or collaboration. Who do I need to collaborate with to overcome this? Some. Some people need accountability, partners. Who. Who's the person that I will allow in my life to encourage me when I can't encourage myself? Right? Who's what? Whatever. You have to life hack yourself. You've gotta. You gotta figure out who you are, and then you gotta put in place what's necessary to not only help you to accomplish the next version of yourself, but not to atrophy and become who you escaped. Right? So I'm looking at you. The last time I spoke to you, this wasn't the background you had for the podcast.
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Scott Clary
No, it wasn't.
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Keon Henderson
This isn't it.
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Scott Clary
It was.
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Keon Henderson
So this says to me, this is tremendous growth from what I saw last time. And I'm thinking about when you designed that. Somebody built it. I can tell you exactly what happened. And you've not mentioned to me that was a blank wall. They took those shelves. They had to paint them. You had to tell them what you wanted to look like. Your interior designer found all of those individual pieces, placed them. She said, nope, the book looks here. I'm put the clock here. All of that was placed. That. That takes vision and collaboration, right? So what people are looking at and folks who are watching this right now, I want you to look at that wall behind Scott. I want you to look at. Took hours to find. All of those pieces didn't come out of the same store. The person who designed that. Over here, over here, over here, over here, over here. And it takes time to do that, you know, and you always want it done quicker than they're finished. And you, you're like, what has taken them so long? And I tell folks all the time, never look at somebody else's job and assume how long it's going to take until you've done it yourself. You'll never realize how hard it is.
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Scott Clary
What do you say to People who do achieve and to go through a shift, but they're still hard on themselves. So the idea is you're moving your own goalposts too much. So again, two ideas have to be true at the same time. Shifts have to happen, but that person still has to have grace and celebrate where they came from.
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Keon Henderson
Oh, my God. So huge. Because I'm a big proponent of self talk. Like, you have to talk to yourself because this world is so noisy. It's so noisy, it can discourage you. Oh, my God. I mean, you can look on social media and. And make an assumption about somebody's numbers or somebody's life or somebody's matriculation. And you can be discouraged because you'll look at yourself and like, man, I've been at this for so long, and I'm not, you know, I'm not scaling, I'm not. I'm not growing. But you have to pause and. And think, man, I'm not where I want to be, but I am not where I used to be. Right? And I've got to. I've got to celebrate in the middle. At least I didn't quit. At least I didn't completely fail or fall apart. And I read this once before. Even if you did fail, the definition of failure, I never will forget it. I was at a barbershop in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and I never will forget. I saw it on the barbershop, written in dry erase marker. It said, failure is the opportunity to begin again with increased intelligence. I read that as a kid and it stayed with me for the last.
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Scott Clary
That's a good quote. That is a good quote.
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Keon Henderson
Massive. That's a fire quote. Has been with me for 30 years in a barbershop, reading a dry erase marker board.
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Scott Clary
Because one of the ideas in your book is discussing how, like, some shifts, they require us to acknowledge limitations. But that's empowering to a degree. And I think that's what. That's what that quote means to me. Yeah, I absolutely love that. Like acknowledging limitations. It's clarifying because then we know where we have to work. But if we don't lean into the shift, sometimes we're super ignorant of our own shortcomings and they're only made aware to us when we're doing the uncomfortable stuff.
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Keon Henderson
Imagine. Imagine what you just said. Imagine what you said about acknowledging limitations. You and I are driving up. What's the. What's the street in Miami that's over there by the one. What is Collins? Is that.
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Scott Clary
Yeah, yeah.
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Keon Henderson
Okay, so you and I are driving up Collins and you are in a Ferrari. I am in a Honda Civic. What business do I have pulling upside of you threatening a race? I have to recognize the abilities of what you have and the limitations of what I have. And what I do is I prevent myself from incurring a loss that is unnecessary by recognizing the equipment that I have and recognizing the equipment that you have. There's no need to even try. And I think that some people think that faith and that hard work and ingenuity means walking around as if reality isn't real. There's some things that just real. I would never recommend a turtle to taunt a cheetah. This wouldn't recommend it. I don't care how tough you are. There's just some things you leave to somebody else. And you fight the race that's beset. That's beset before you, right? You, you, you fight the game that's in your purview and you win that one. And guess what? You get better. And then you can challenge on the next level. But you have to win where you are before you can be where you want to go.
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Scott Clary
You have to win where you are before you can be where you want to go. When you're going through, when you're going through a shift, you speak about the danger of getting stuck in your shift. What does that mean?
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Keon Henderson
I got that from my wife and I went to Las Vegas one time and they have these things you can rent called slingshots. You know the three wheel car, like.
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Scott Clary
A sand buggy thing. Buggy, yeah.
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Keon Henderson
We love. Everywhere we go we find some sand buggy or atv, something I bought. We love to have a good time. And we were driving up Las Vegas Boulevard with these slingshots. And she didn't know it because I tried to hide it from her that I didn't know how to drive a stick shift. I've never had. I never had. First of all, my mother didn't have a car growing up. And then when we did, it was automatic. So I never drove a shift. So my wife, her father taught her how to drive a shift. And she's just out here just shifting. And I'm like, I'm gonna keep up with this girl, but I can't do it. So she kept looking back and she looks back at me one time and I had pulled over to the gas station because I had given up. I could not figure out how to get out of first. And that story prompted me to talk about getting stuck in shifts. Like when you, when you don't recognize what powers you have and what powers you don't have. When you don't recognize that you have to embrace change and not resist it. When you don't recognize that you have to overcome setbacks and not succumb to them, when you don't recognize that faith and trust in God is the way out of some of these things, then you. You're over on the side of the road, stuck in the gear, because you either don't believe or haven't sought advice on how to get out of that. That gear. So I asked her, finally swallow my pride, how do you get out of this? She said, you have to push the. I believe, if I'm saying it correctly, you have to push the. The gear that's associated with the shifter and the clutch. You have to. You have to press those. I did not know. I'm. I'm doing it with one foot, you know, I got one foot.
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Scott Clary
Like, like, like an automatic car. Yeah.
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Keon Henderson
I'm. I'm almost embarrassed to say. I didn't know what to do. I. I looked down there, said, what, What. What do we have three? I'd never driven a stick in my life. Don't.
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Scott Clary
Don't be embarrassed. I don't think. I don't think many people know how to, you know, change a tire, drive stick. I don't think. I don't think it's like a common skill. So don't. Don't be embarrassed.
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Keon Henderson
Had no idea. That lady taught me how to drive that stick. Shift in a matter of two minutes, and we drove to the Hoover Dam. All the way over there on these slingshots because I yelled for help when I could not shift. I pulled over, didn't. Didn't keep going because I grinded Scott so long and I couldn't catch up with him. Just pulled over.
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Scott Clary
How do you know when. How do you know when that right moment is to ask for help? Not. Not on, like, a small, trivial idea. Like, not like a small thing where you should put the work in, figure it out, but, like, I don't know, relationship, switch career, start a business, marry someone, break up with someone. These are major shifts, right? And there's a lot of other ones, you know, for. For things that are affecting your life, health. Like maybe you don't have the treatment available to you where you are, so you gotta go to a different city, different country, spend lots of money. Like, do you bring people into these decisions right away? You try and navigate it yourself first. What do you. What do you recommend?
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Keon Henderson
Yeah, I think the. The most efficient way we all are going to try to navigate it ourselves. I again, personally, as a man of faith, I invite God in from the beginning. But this is when you know you need a shift. You know you need a shift when it causes you stress, time, energy and money. And when you're, when you have copious amounts of stress, you're losing time, you have no energy and it's costing you money. Then you need a new system and you need to find some folks who can help you to build it. Because it is difficult to do anything alone, right? It's difficult to do anything alone. And even when you think you're doing it alone, you're not doing it alone. Somebody's going to have to come alongside and help you. For instance, again with the podcast, folks don't know you got a camera set up. They don't know you have a switcher back there. They don't know you've got a computer connected to it. All they can see is the lens. And if you had to get up right now to service any of those things, you're not on camera. If you get up right now to go switch the angle you got. So in order to do it from a multi layer perspective, there has to be somebody else in the room to do it for you. Otherwise we have to stay with this angle. And I would say that anybody who wants to scale at life from multiple angles, diversified your income structures, diversify your portfolio, you're going to need some collaborative efforts. You're going to, and you're going to have to do something that you probably struggle to do because of what life has done. And that's trust somebody other than you.
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Scott Clary
That's tough. You deal with it in business all the time. I mean, I deal with entrepreneurs who can't delegate, who don't, don't feel comfortable hiring, who don't feel comfortable giving people access to the things that they've built. But it's not, it's not just a business. The business ideas, they all translate into, into relationships, into, into mental health, into physical health. Everybody wants to go at it alone. My favorite I, my favorite idea is that nobody is self made. Like, like self made is fake. It's, it's false. It doesn't, it doesn't exist. Not a single person. But we all go at it. We, we all have ego, right?
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Keon Henderson
You do? Yeah. And ego, I, I read somewhere before said ego, it means to edge God out, right? It's, it's, it's this idea that I can do it alone. It's impossible. It's impossible. Nobody. And I agree with you. And you hear people, I'm a self made millionaire. How did you forget the teacher that taught you arithmetic?
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Scott Clary
Yeah. What about your customers?
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Keon Henderson
What about your customers? Right. What about your critics? Because you learn from them too.
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Scott Clary
Yeah, I, I think that, I think that ego, this is what I believe I've said. I, you know, like when you have something on the top of your head and you just keep bringing it up. But I now that, now that I'm speaking to somebody who works with God on the regular, I'm going to get your opinion on this because I've spoken to a lot of people that do not work with God about this and they generally agree. I think that secularism in society and lack of God in society has a void, has been filled with ego. And I think that ego and believing that you are the most important thing on this earth is the most damaging to society. Your own development, relationships, career, success, however you want to define it. I think that humility and removing ego is the single most important thought that, that especially people who do not believe in some version of God have to have to start understanding.
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Keon Henderson
Yeah, I just brought it up on my, on my laptop here. The Bible says in second Timothy, chapter three, verse two, it says that when, when the end times come, one of the ways we will know is that people will become lovers of themselves. So that's, that's, that's one of the telltale alerts that we're in trouble because people are increasingly becoming lovers of themselves. And, and Paul says that's how you know you're in the last days. And if you, if you look around, everybody's going at it alone. Everybody's going at it alone. And then you go back to the book of Genesis where the scriptures explicitly say that God did not create man to be alone. So that's why Covid was so destructive, because everybody was alone. And the mental health epidemic that we're in right now and people can ignore all they want. The mental health epidemic is as serious as the COVID pandemic.
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Scott Clary
I agree.
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Keon Henderson
It's because an idle mind is the devil's workshop. Like do you know what is being done to a person who has a idle, solitary solitude mindset? I can do it. I'm it. I'm the one that makes for a hard existence and it and ultimately leads to non existence.
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Scott Clary
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It is one of my favorites. Sarah is one of my favorite hosts. If you like Success Story, you're going to love this show. And a quick pause if you haven't had a chance yet, I'd love your input on our Listener survey@scottdeclary.com survey. It takes just a few minutes and one lucky respondent won a gift card once we hit 100 responses. Your feedback directly impacts what we cover on this show. I really appreciate it. I think that we don't have community the way that we used to have. We don't have, we don't, we don't feel. I mean, everybody now is so transactional. So when they're dealing with like bringing it back to, to this particular idea, going through shifts. If your whole life you feel like you're alone, then you're going to go through these shifts alone too. And your chance of success is, is fraction insignificant compared to if you had, you know, a community, a team, a family, a group of people that actually loved and cared about you behind you. And I think that Covid just was like nail in the coffin of everyone's isolated and maybe you have a couple close friends. But even then during COVID it tested those because you couldn't even see them. I don't know. I, I feel like, I feel like everyone is very. And, and I think that I'm speaking from sort of my generation, obviously my parents generation, they had much closer friendships because nothing was really built online. It was all built in person. But now people are building relationships that younger generations building relationships online. And I think that it's scary.
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Keon Henderson
It's amazing you said that. I just, I just, yeah, preached that this past Sunday, 75% of college students say that they are in a long distance relationship online. 50% of people in America who are in relationships, and that's about 28 million people, said they, they met their spouse online and have some sort of. It's actually a thing, it's called ldr. Long Distance relationship.
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Scott Clary
So there's an acronym for it.
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Keon Henderson
It's an acronym for it. That's, that's how real it is right now. It's like I'm in an L. Er. So, yeah, just bringing it back to.
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Scott Clary
Sort of your story. We, we spoke about that one early life shift with your father as, as your pastor and sort of getting the courage, 12 years old, to have that conversation, which is not easy. You speak about how shifts reveal something. So tell me what that revealed. Something that you wouldn't have seen or you wouldn't have known before you went through that shift. So what did that particular shift show you, man?
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Keon Henderson
You, you should be on the TV doing this, man. You get provocative questions there. Do you know, I didn't learn the full lesson of that 12 year old boldness until I was 35. So the first thing I want to say to folks is stop expecting every shift to happen every night. They don't happen every night and they don't happen overnight. Some are short term, but there are some long term things that come out of these shifts that will change your life. I never will forget my daughter was born when I was 30, 31 years old. And I remember a mentor telling me, you're hard on your father. I mean, what do you mean hard on him? Do you know, do you know what? How much of my life he missed and never came to a basketball game. What do you mean hard on? Everything that I feel about him, he deserves. Was upset with him and this man looked at me and he said, when you become a father, talk to me. Okay, I will. And it wasn't until I became a father that I recognized how difficult of a position my father was in. Now let me give you the other part of the story, Scott. My mother and father conceived me while my father was separated from his wife. So his divorce was not finalized. I have a younger sister. We share both parents, so it wasn't just me. It was my sister Kiana, who was born from that union as well. Long story short, my father reconciles his relationship with his wife, which now means that he has two children outside of his marriage. And he's a pastor.
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Scott Clary
That's not easy.
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Keon Henderson
That is not easy. And it wasn't until I became a parent and a pastor and a man and had constituents and members and boards to know that, oh, my God, to come out and say that I was his child meant the possibility of losing his income, his life's work. And I can hear folks right now listening to me saying, so what? He. You know, when you make your bed, you have to lie in it. True. But as difficult as it is for the person who would judge my father's situation, as difficult as it is for them to make their shift, that was the difficulty that he faced in making that shift. And it wasn't until I became a man that I didn't absolve him from it, but I understood the difficulty of it, and it allowed me to bring more grace to my perspective, realizing that that was a very difficult situation to be in, a very hard situation. And I said to myself, and I said to him before he passed and he died at 77 years old. But I said to him in his sitting room that he had in the house, in his Lazy Boy, I looked him in his face in my mid to late 30s, and I said to him, I said, I forgive you for everything that we've ever been through. And I asked for your forgiveness because I could have been a better son. I didn't have to be angry all of these years. I didn't have to ignore your calls. I didn't have to. Scott. I was so angry sometimes. I said, to hell with it. I don't. I don't want to hear from him. I don't want to hear from him. I don't want to reconcile. I don't. I don't want to hear your side of the story. I was. I was so angry as a child, and I woke up one day and realized it was hard and that I had every right to forgive, forgive him in spite of folks who wanted me to stay mad at him. That was my decision. I had a right to say, it's okay because you didn't do it to them, you did it to me. And I get to say it's okay. And I get to say, I forgive you. And I get to tell everybody, my mom and my sisters included, stop the anger, because where has it gotten us? Where has all of the anger that we spewed in this house over the last 20 years gotten us? We drunk the poison and expected him to die. It doesn't work that way. I changed my approach to him. It was so liberating. And I believe with everything in my heart that many of the blessings that I look at and See, in my life right now is a result of the forgiveness that I gave to a person who in society speaks perspective, probably didn't deserve it. But it wasn't their decision to make, it was mine.
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Scott Clary
It's interesting how when we go through shifts, we become selfish and we expect the shift to benefit us and we forget everyone else that that shift impacts very, very. I think we default to being self centered. And I think that when you go through these shifts you have to realize that you don't operate in a silo and the journey that you go on, I mean yours is an extreme example, but the journey that you go on, I think you have to be conscious of all the other pieces that it impacts and affects how.
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Keon Henderson
I agree with that.
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Scott Clary
Yeah, I'm just thinking of like an example of somebody being so self serving that they go on a shift in their career or. What I see often is people want to start a business and they go through a difficult shift and then they're upset when their spouse isn't on board with them working 120 hours a week, but they quit their job and they're wondering why they're not happy anymore. And I don't think that should dissuade you, but I think if possible, being a little bit less selfish before you decide to take action and just understanding sort of the butterfly effect of all the, of the, of the shift and the journey that you're going to go on is important. This is not just all positive for you. That's not how the world works.
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Keon Henderson
So I can tell just by listening to you talk the huge amount of self motivation, self responsibility that your parents put in you. Like it's evident that somebody raised you and said you pick yourself up by the bootstraps and you get the job done and you acknowledge the folks who help you along the way. Otherwise you're going to be on punishment for the rest of the month. Because this is what famous. I can hear it. And it's an amazing quality because the character that we possess are the things that our parents put in us. Our personalities are the mask that we purchase to be able to survive in society. Right. And so most folks want to be judged on the personality, not recognizing that you will be judged on the character, the things that are in you. C. Brooks says in his book From Strength to Strength, he says that most folks are working on resume virtues when you should be working on eulogy virtues. Right. So. So most people want to be known and recognized for the resume stuff. I was on time, I made it, I'm a hard worker. No, it's the. It's the eulogy stuff. I was trustworthy. I was kind hearted. I was there. Those are the things that we will be judged upon in our shifts. The eulogy stuff, not the resume stuff.
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Scott Clary
I love that. That's hard. That's hard. Like, what are people going to say about you, you know, at your funeral? I don't think people think that way. I don't think most people go through life thinking that way. Maybe, maybe I'm just. Maybe I'm just pessimistic. I don't know.
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Keon Henderson
You're right. You're right. And it's a shame that more of us don't. But these are the voids and deficits that make society so vitriolic. And here's the deal. Everybody didn't grow up in a loving household like you and I, right? Some folks. I'm thinking of a young lady in particular. She grew up. Her mother was addicted to drugs. Her mother was murdered by a drug dealer. Her little brother was in the house when the drug dealer murdered her mother. And the only way they found out that her mother had died is the baby cried for two to three days straight. And the neighbor finally sent someone over for a welfare check, wellness check, only to find out that the next door neighbor had been murdered. And the young lady that I'm talking about is a good mother, is now raising that boy, which was her brother, but raised him as a son, is a. A nurse at one of the most successful hospitals in Houston, Texas. And she just so happens to be my God sister. So you can't tell me what can't happen if you don't just lean into the shift. I mean, there's somebody whose stories is equally tragic, but life is 10% of what happens to you, and it is 90% of how you respond to it. And we have way more victims in our society than we have Victors.
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Scott Clary
A very sad story. And Nick's the gentleman you were speaking about before with no legs and one arm and the other arm is. It's not there. His brother, he spoke about this publicly. And so I don't mind telling this story, but his brother passed away and overdosed because he felt so bad about Nick's condition.
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Keon Henderson
Oh, my God.
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Scott Clary
Isn't that just. Yeah, that's when I heard that. And then like I met Nick, obviously at a. At a much later stage in his life when he was already thriving. And he speaks globally now. And he. I think he's now in China and Dubai and he's in Florida every once in a while because he has a house here. And he actually spoke at an event that I put on and I was like floored, like people. And I put on an event. It was basically a room full of people that had sold companies for between 50 million and 500 million. All exited entrepreneurs. Everyone was bawling their eyes out. Everybody was in it. Everybody. Like the guy is phenomenal.
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Keon Henderson
Yes.
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Scott Clary
I mean, two people, wildly different outcomes. One very sad and tragic. But the person who had the actual difficult physical problem and he doesn't even. He's so positive he won't ever call it a problem. He'll. He'll think of some clever way of saying that's the best thing that's ever happened to him because that's just who he is.
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Keon Henderson
Yeah, yeah.
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Scott Clary
He makes more money. He makes more money and he can tap into some of the hardest, most logical, successful entrepreneurs in the world. I've seen him do it in front of me and, and he's just wildly different outcomes. I don't even know. I can't put his, I can't put justice to his story because he's just, he's such an incredible person, but just goes to show you, you can. He's an example. Him and his brother are extreme examples of leaning into shifts into. And not. And not. Anyways, absolutely incredible for people that, for people that. I'm sure that you may have spoken about this story before, but for you. Because I think it's always helpful to hear from personal experience, it's a lot better than like theoreticals. What was the hardest shift that you've gone through in your life and what did you learn from it?
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Keon Henderson
I think it depends on what stage I was in. The hardest would have been my father. And then the second would have been I had made up my mind that I was going to play basketball for the rest of my life. You know, I wanted to go overseas. My route was I was going to go overseas, work real hard, get called up by the NBA. And my coach, Doug Noel, I never will forget. I was passing a church in college and somehow through his kindness, he allowed me to go and lead the church in the morning and then come back and practice. Right. And then go teach Sunday school. And it was real close. I was in a small town, so, you know, you're talking about a five or ten minute drive. And he looked at me one day and he said, you're going to have to make a decision. You're going to have to play basketball and you're going to. If you're wanting to do this full time. And he was honest. If you're going to do this full time, you got to put more effort in it. He said, I'm not going to make that decision for you because if you want to be a pastor, it's going to need everything you have. But if you're going to do this, it's going to need everything you have. And so I made a decision that day. I said against Middle Tennessee State in Fort Wayne, Indiana at the, the Gates Center. I said, yeah, I'm going to stop preaching and I'm going to play basketball. And that was at 4:00 doing pre game meal for 7:00 game at 7:00. The game starts by 8:00. That night I was in the locker room on the stretcher on my way to the hospital because I tore every ligament in my left knee. That's why I wrote the book the Shift. Because the knee I was depending on, the gift is what God was depending on. And he shifted the thing that I was depending on to develop the thing that he was depending on. And now I am doing what he called me to do because he allowed a shift in the thing that I wanted to do. See, and this is the thing. This is the thing about life. Nobody gets through it without some tests. It's just, I don't care where you start. It's going to get difficult. Even if you get started at the top, climbing another mountain is even more difficult. It's going to be hard for us all. Do some people get a leg up? Absolutely. That was the hardest shift recently. The hardest shift. July 8, 2024. Two days after my 43rd birthday, my wife and I were enjoying a nice birthday dinner and I get a call from someone at the office that says that the hurricane hit our church and our north location was completely destroyed by Hurricane Barrel. And to see, I mean, we, we purchased it and it was in bad condition when we purchased it. So everything good about it, we did it together. And to see millions of dollars and thousands and thousands of hours and miracles performed and, and signs and wonders all in that building, to see the roof laying in the middle of the floor was just. It's so. It's traumatic. Like I can't. I. I'll get, I'll never get the images out of my head. And fighting with the insurance company over the last nine months has been the fight of a life. This has been a huge, huge, huge, huge shift. I got so many. I got so many. But those are the ones that Pop into my head.
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Scott Clary
But every. Everyone does. Everyone has so many. And. And the thing is, like, in the moment. In the moment, one thing you do very well, like you live what you teach, is you do not let it rewrite your story. You. You. When you messed up your knee, you could have been down and out, and that could have. Psychologically, you could have spiraled and you could have not. I mean, when. When you. When. When you are saying, I'm not going to be a preacher, I'm going to go play basketball, and then that night, you mess up your knee, that could push you farther away from God and preaching than ever before. Because now you have hate. Now you have anger. And you're like, you know what? You know, screw. Screw you. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go towards you. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna become the preacher because I don't know what you're trying to do here, but this is. This is. This is what I actually wanted. And you didn't. You didn't believe in me. Like, that could be the conversation that you're having. It's not, but that could have been one of the conversations. And I think that that's what we have to be careful of when we go through a shift. It does. Just because you lean into a shift doesn't mean that the outcome is always going to be 100 positive. And you can't let that rewrite your story. And you've never. You, you know, you in particular have never let that rewrite your story. And I think that that's what people have to take away.
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Keon Henderson
What I've always.
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Scott Clary
Not all positive and all things.
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Keon Henderson
All things work together for my good. It don't feel good. It doesn't look good. But because I believe, and when I tell you I believe, I'm not playing. I believe. So since I believe, I will accept no outcome, that doesn't work for my good. So I'm going to find the good in the bad. Yeah. I'm going to find the good one.
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Scott Clary
Other. Yeah, you have to. You have. Even with what is happening with your church, whatever you build will be bigger and better and help more people. And that's the way you have. Because. Because if you believe it, it will happen. If you don't believe it, it'll also happen.
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Keon Henderson
My coach used to say, success comes in cans, not cannots.
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Scott Clary
I like that.
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Keon Henderson
So whatever.
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Scott Clary
Coaches are the best. Coaches have the best things.
- [71:15]
Keon Henderson
Oh, they always do. If you believe you can, you're right. If you believe you can't. You're right.
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Scott Clary
One more idea that I think is important because we've spoken about these huge sort of milestone moments in life, but I think it's important to help people recognize shifts every single day. Like the small little things that can have impact they should lean into. Because you mentioned that shifts occur all around you every single day. So what is a practice or what is an idea that somebody can internalize so that they can see these shifts and these opportunities five times before lunch.
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Keon Henderson
So here's what I have, an affirmation that I keep with me all the time. Okay? And I just recently changed it. I used to have these five A's. I used to say I control my atmosphere, fear, you know, I. I control my approach. Right? These are the things that I would just say to myself. And now I'm. I'm saying I have the power to empower myself. I have the empower to embrace the situation. So I went from five A's to five E's. And it's something simple. Like, I've got this thing, and I believe in it so much. Let me see if I can find it in my phone. This is my daughter. My daughter's 12 years old. Before we go to bed every night, this is what I say to my daughter. I say, repeat after me. I am uniquely created, and there is no one like me. I am deeply loved by my God, my parents, and myself. And she says it after me. I tell her, my voice matters. She says, my voice matters. I say, my mistakes don't define me. She says, my mistakes don't define me. And then no matter what happens, I will always be here for you. Say that no matter what happens, you'll always. Every night. Now, I don't know if she believes it, but I know if I keep putting that in her spirit, in her mind, and in her soul, one day she's going to have to draw from that. And all of us don't have a father that gives us that. All of us don't have a father that gives us that. Our mother, our friend. But, man, you gotta. You gotta borrow me or Scott as a mentor. How do you do that? Go online and just borrow us. You don't have to know us to get that information. You know, you borrow a person's psychology until you meet them. I believe that thought attracts that upon which it is directed. There's no mistake that you and I are sitting here talking about our perspectives in lives and can say over and over again, you know what? I agree with that. Something about how we believe and think has brought us together, right? And that's the same thing, folks, that you have to do this podcast. It's actually me in your life. This is Scott in your life. And we may not be in your living room, but we're in your life. And you just let these words echo over and over and over and over again until you can repeat them with belief. And then you become for somebody what you didn't have for yourself. And I'm going to tell you, one of the greatest things you can do for yourself is teach what you learn. Because when you're teaching, you're learning more than the students. I'm learning more right now by saying than this than you are by hearing this. So. So I want you to get in that same position, find out who you're going to help as a result of the help you receive, and then you stay on a lifelong journey of servitude, serve as many people as you can, and then be grateful. Gratitude and servitude are the life hacks on how to make it through a shift. I serve and I'm grateful.
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Scott Clary
I love it. I absolutely love it. What is, what is one very important idea from the book, but just around shifts that I didn't ask you about.
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Keon Henderson
I think that there are, you know, what we're saying right now is kind of mystical to people, right? It seems like this unattainable thing. I think the thing that we probably should leave the folks with is realizing that although what we say seems mystical, but there are actual practical steps that you have to take in order to do this. I think that if you're going to be a leader, you have to be a reader. I don't know of anybody, and I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but I don't know of anybody who is a massive leader who isn't also a massive reader. That's one thing. Number two, I think that you have to feel your best physically in order to feel your best mentally, right? And I'm not, you know, I'm not downgrading anybody, but you gotta. You gotta move. Like you. You gotta put one foot in front of the other. You can't. You can't be a couch potato. You can't. You know, you can't be in the dark room all day. You can't. You can't just binge watch television and expect to be this massive force in the world. You got to do something, okay? You got to move. You gotta. You gotta have agility. And then last but not least, which I think is probably more important than the first two. You gotta flat out have some courage. You have to be brave because you're going to be scared the whole way. You're not going to feel like Superman, you're going to feel like Clark Kent. But you still got to go in the phone booth and you got to come out with that suit on and you got to show up at life like you believe you can leap a tall building in a single bound. And you'd be surprised at how life will bow to a person who believes that they can conquer. So I think that those are three steps that we leave folks with. And obviously having that courage to believe it all.
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Scott Clary
I love it. Where can people connect with you? Obviously the book. You can get anywhere. You can get books. I'll put it in the show notes. But where else you want to send people?
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Keon Henderson
Yeah, you can go to anywhere books millionchristianbooks.com you can get any Amazon anywhere a book is sold. But to connect with me because I often break down our books and I share it in bite sized content. But you got to have the book to know where, where I'm going. So follow me on Instagram at Pastor Keon. Follow me on YouTube. Scott, we just passed over, I think. Oh man. I think we're 6,000 away from 600,000 subscribers on our YouTube channel, which is huge for a YouTube channel that's typically about faith. Right. So you know, we're pleased with that. You know our website tlhc.org man just type in my name in Google. It'll. It'll lead you to where we are. And I'd be glad to have a friend like you walk with me alone in journey.