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In this lessons episode, discover how cultural expectations shape identity and how breaking free from the Good Asian Daughter script can be both painful and liberating. Learn how unspoken family pressures affect career and personal relationships. Explore the cost of high achievement without boundaries. And understand how reclaiming joy begins with setting limits and finding balance beyond the checklist. You broke out of this Good Asian Daughter script. So what is the Good Asian Daughter script? And that's what I was alluding to before. Like, I always find it interesting how your parents had such a big impression on you, but then also there's a point where you have to break out of their model of, of who you are, their version of who you are. So was their version of who you are, this good Asian daughter? What does that mean? And how did you break out of it? Or why?
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Oh, I was the perfect Asian daughter. I never talked back to my parents. I made straight A'. I always did the extra credit assignment. I was teacher's pet. I never got into any trouble. I never had a boyfriend. I helped with the dishes at home. I actually swept and vacuumed the floors on the weekends. I just like, if you could have a model child that was just one level above robot, that was the kind of child that I was. I just, I did everything, everything my parents wanted me to because I felt so beholden to them that they had sacrificed their life in China to bring me to America so that I could have a better life. And they told me this, this was not insinuated. They said to me, if it were not for you, we would have just stayed in China. We came to America so that you could have the opportunity for a better life. And look at us, we don't know the language here. We speak with an accent, make fun of us. We have lesser jobs here than we do in China. I mean, my dad was the manager of a factory in China that employed over 200 workers. So he was like, you know, head honcho, like floor boss. And then here in America, you know, his, his English skills are very poor. He speaks with a heavy accent and he's a computer programmer. He actually came to America to study B business management. But because his English was so bad, he changed his major to computer science so that he wouldn' have to talk to people.
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That's not fair for them to put that on you.
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But, but I didn't know that that wasn't fair. I internalized, you know, the words that they said and, and, and to me in my, you know, 6 year old, 8 year old, 12 year old mind, I was beholden to them, wow, look at everything mommy and daddy sacrificed so that I could have a better life. I should be better. I should not make a bee. I should help clean the dishes after dinner. I should vacuum the floor. I should never talk back. Like, I just, I, I was in constant fear of disappointing my parents. My dad especially, he is just very difficult to please. Would be putting it nicely.
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Talk to me about sort of early career, separating a little bit from your parents, how that impacted you, how it impacted like life decisions, any of that.
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Yeah, I think the thing, the next thing that my dad was really upset with was when I brought home a Korean boyfri. And I'm Chinese, so he's very strict. Yes. And, and Korean, you know, like Asians are the most racist against other Asians. Like Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, like to American people, it's all like, oh yeah, they're the same. They eat lots of rice, have strict parents. Right? Like it's all the same. No, like Chinese people don't like Koreans and Japanese, Japanese people don't like anybody. But Japanese Koreans think they're at the top of the total.
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Everyone thinks they're at the top, basically.
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Crazy. It's crazy. And I don't understand where this comes from, but all I know is that when I brought home a Korean boyfriend to my Chinese dad, he was pissed.
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What age was this?
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This was 23, 24.
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Okay.
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It was the year I graduated from medical school that I met my now husband. And I was 23 when I graduated from medical school. So it must have been around that time. And it's not like I'm some like, you know, 16 year old prom date. Like, daddy, this is, you know, Brad, I'm a freaking doctor. I'm 23 years old, I have an MD behind, behind my name. And I'm like, dad, I want to tell you something. Like I kind of been seeing this guy. And then they were super pissed because he had been previously married with two kids from that marriage and was a decade older than me. And my dad just lost it, you know.
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What do you think? Okay, so all these, all these interactions with your family and I think they cause like all these like little traumas. I think they, I think they cause little traumas like carry through your life. You have to be super careful. If you, if you don't address them, then it can impact everything, can impact relationship with your husband, with your, with your wife, with your kids. So I, I, I don't love that he keeps pushing you like your dad keeps pushing you farther and farther away. But you're not going to change your life. You're going to keep building your life regardless. But what's the point when you sort of reconcile those differences or, or in the meantime, when your dad pushes you away, how does that impact your relationship? How does that impact your career? Does it at all?
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Career, not so much because I'm doing exactly what he wanted me to do. You know, he wants to brag to all his friends that I'm a successful anesthesiologist. He's always pimping me out to his friends, kids who want to go into medical school. So now I'm taking phone calls with like 18 year olds that want to know how to apply to go to medical school. And I'm like, don't you have a guidance counsel? Like, why are you calling me? And then all his friends, like, not long ago, his friend got diagnosed with liver cancer. So then he texts me asking for a same day appointment with an oncologist that I know the week of Christmas. And I'm like, this is an unreasonable request, Father. And he's like, well, he's got cancer. And, you know, liver cancer grows quickly. And I was like, oh, it does? I didn't know that. Thank you for educating me about cancer, Father. I didn't learn that in medical school. And he's like, you better call and get him an appointment. And I'm like, like, it's not. I don't even know this. This is your friend. Why don't you call and get an appointment? So he always, like, leverages my relationships and expertise to help his friends, which I'm happy to do. But it, it comes with a side of like, you better do this for me. It's, it's not what he's asking necessarily, but the way in which he does it, like, I owe him something.
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So does that still go on to this day?
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Yeah, you know, I, I've done a lot.
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I keep asking you if you're, if you fix the relationship, but it still.
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Sounds like it's not fixed. It's not fixed. And I just had recently with my mother and I kind of told her, I said, you know, I, I went on a women's retreat not too long ago and we did a lot of work on boundary setting. Like, boundaries is like a very, you know, in thing right now. And I was like, you know why I have no boundaries? Because they were never modeled to me as a child. My parents, they have no boundaries. They work all the time and they don't have boundaries with each other. They don't have social boundaries. And I'm like, I'm really gonna work this year on. On setting some boundaries. And one of them is distancing myself from him a little bit. Because every time we interact, I leave the interaction feeling not good enough, pissed off, emotionally drained. And all those childhood traumas just flood me again.
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In spite of that, how do you find joy? How did you find joy? How did you overcome these traumas? How did you not let it impact your relationship with your husband, your. Your relationship with people in your life?
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You know, I. I think I'm good at compartmentalizing. You know, I. I'm able to put things in silos, which is also great for work because I work at a level one trauma hospital. I see people shoot and stab each other all the time. And, you know, if. If I wasn't able to compartmentalize that, I would probably come home a sobbing mess every day. So I think I've compartmentalized my relationship with my father and put it here so that it doesn't affect my relationship with my husband or with my mother even, because she's a close relationship with her. And I'll tell her things like, you know, it hurts my feelings when he says this, or he's constantly comparing my twins and. And I don't like it when he compares them in front of them that, you know, one runs faster than the other. And my mom will be like, oh, you know how daddy is. And, you know, she makes excuses for him or whatever. So I've decided to just put that relationship in a little bucket over here so that the fumes from it don't, you know, seep through like carbon monoxide and poison everything else.
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You know, it's interesting, though, because. So I think that that relationship, it turns you into, like, a high performance individual and everything in your life, because that's sort of what was. That was modeled. It was like work, work, work, work, work. Right?
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Yeah.
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So throughout sort of your life, you've realized at certain points that even high performance isn't always the best path forward. I think that now you have more balance in your life. I mean, there was one point where you were sleeping in your car between your shifts, and you realize things like that weren't sustainable. So talk to me about sort of your attitude towards work, about high performance, about accomplishment, because you were, you know, you're going to. You graduated med school at 24, and most people are only finishing their undergrad. So obviously, like, you keep pushing yourself, but there's a time when that doesn't serve you Anymore.
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Yeah, that. That was a hard pill to swallow. So I moved to America when I was six years old. I learned English. I went to the early college entrance program when I was 15, graduated from Cornel when I was 19, graduated from medical school at the top of my class at the age of 23, and then proceeded on to the best anesthesia residency program in the country at ucsf. Then got married and had twins by the time I was 30. And so I just felt like my whole life, it's like these boxes had been like a to do list. And I was like, check. Go to college early, check. Ivy League check, you know, and my mom was like, there's no way you're going to be able to get married and have kids by the time you're 30. And for whatever reason, you know the Chinese auntie folklore, if you're not, that's the expiration date. You know, if you're not married by 30, it's like, oh, what's wrong with her? And then I got married and had twins. So I was like clocked in right at 30. So I felt like I completed the checklist.
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Yeah.
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And then I sat down one day and I was like, shit, I'm tired also. What am I doing? Like, I've done everything the people told me to. But why do I feel unfulfilled? I have no creativity in my life. All I do is work. I have very little laughter in my life and very little joy. And at that time, I was like, what is joy? You know, there's happiness, there's joy. I'm like, I like shopping. That brings me joy, you know, but does it. Do your material possessions bring me joy? You know, does this Birkin keep me warm at night? No, it does not. So that's when I had my midlife crisis, as my husband likes to call it, and I started going to therapy. Listen to so many self help podcasts. I have a Kindle library full of self help books. Like, if you name a top self help happiness book, I have it in my Kindle library. And it. And what I kind of figured out is that, like, you can't live life by a checklist. And then joy is not like a destination. It's not like something you're gonna get to. Like, the joy is in the journey, but my stupid ass was running so fast, I didn't get to enjoy the journey.
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Success Story Podcast Summary: “Lessons - How a Doctor Prescribes Joy to Transform Lives | Tiffany Moon”
Release Date: July 14, 2025
In this compelling episode of the Success Story Podcast, host Scott D. Clary sits down with Dr. Tiffany Moon, an accomplished anesthesiologist and author of "Joy Prescriptions." Their conversation delves deep into Tiffany’s personal journey of overcoming cultural and familial pressures to discover true joy and fulfillment in her life. This summary captures the essence of their discussion, highlighting key insights, emotional moments, and transformative lessons.
The episode begins with Scott introducing Tiffany Moon and setting the stage for a profound exploration of her life experiences. Tiffany shares her background, emphasizing the cultural expectations she faced growing up as an Asian daughter in an immigrant family.
Notable Quote:
“I was the perfect Asian daughter. I never talked back to my parents. I made straight A’s. I always did the extra credit assignment.”
— Tiffany Moon [00:49]
Tiffany elaborates on what it means to embody the "Good Asian Daughter" script. This concept revolves around being the ideal child who adheres strictly to parental expectations, often at the expense of personal happiness and individuality.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
“I just did everything my parents wanted me to because I felt so beholden to them... I was in constant fear of disappointing my parents.”
— Tiffany Moon [02:33]
Scott and Tiffany discuss how unspoken family pressures influenced her career choices and personal relationships. Tiffany reveals the tension between fulfilling familial duties and pursuing her own aspirations.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
“If you could have a model child that was just one level above robot, that was the kind of child that I was.”
— Tiffany Moon [00:49]
As Tiffany’s career progresses, the lack of boundaries within her family relationships becomes increasingly problematic. She discusses efforts to establish healthier boundaries to protect her emotional well-being.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
“I've decided to just put that relationship in a little bucket over here so that the fumes from it don't seep through like carbon monoxide and poison everything else.”
— Tiffany Moon [08:04]
Tiffany reflects on the relentless pursuit of high achievement driven by her upbringing. She shares her realization that despite meeting all expectations, she felt unfulfilled and exhausted.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
“I moved to America when I was six years old... I graduated from medical school at the top of my class at the age of 23... I sat down one day and I was like, shit, I'm tired. What am I doing?”
— Tiffany Moon [09:47]
In the latter part of the conversation, Tiffany shares her journey toward rediscovering joy. Through therapy, self-help resources, and intentional boundary setting, she begins to heal from past traumas and cultivate a more balanced, joyful life.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
“Joy is not like a destination. It's not something you're gonna get to. The joy is in the journey, but my stupid ass was running so fast, I didn't get to enjoy the journey.”
— Tiffany Moon [10:45]
Scott wraps up the episode by highlighting the invaluable lessons from Tiffany’s story. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own lives, recognize the importance of setting boundaries, and prioritize genuine joy over societal or familial expectations.
Key Takeaways:
Final Thoughts
This episode of the Success Story Podcast offers a heartfelt and honest exploration of the challenges faced by individuals striving to meet cultural and familial expectations. Tiffany Moon’s story serves as an inspiring testament to the importance of self-discovery, boundary setting, and prioritizing personal happiness. Her journey from a "Good Asian Daughter" to an author advocating for joy prescriptions provides valuable lessons for anyone seeking balance and fulfillment in their lives.
For more insights and inspiring stories, visit www.successstorypodcast.com.