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Guest
Why financial stress keeps people stuck and.
Scott
How simple steps can kickstart your wealth journey. Learn how the Strip method simplifies personal finance through savings, debt strategy, retirement planning, investing and goal setting. Learn why finding credible financial advice online is essential. And learn how to calculate your own FU number to build lasting financial freedom.
Guest
People have a hard time focusing on all the other versions of rich when they're not even making enough money because they're so stressed out about paying next month rent. I'm. I mean, it's interesting why financial content does so well because like, I know why it does well. People are stressed out, they're not making enough money. They feel like they can't afford to live. Cost of living improves, cost of living increases. But even with all the financial content, I feel like people aren't taking that financial content and actually implementing it into their lives. I mean, for example, your first piece of content, what it got, it got like how many followers did it get you? That first piece of like a hundred thousand followers.
Scott
One hundred thousand followers.
Guest
So obviously there's a niche for it. Yeah, but when you, because now you have a whole bunch of fans and I'm sure you talk to some of them and some of them give feedback and I'm sure some of them have taken the advice and ran with it, but there's a whole bunch that have not taken the advice and not done anything and they just consume. Why do you think that is?
Financial Expert
I think comfort with the status quo and fear of change is a big one. Like it's easier to be slightly uncomfortable always feeling like you're living paycheck to paycheck than it is to put yourself in a place of discomfort for six months to pick up a side hustle. It requires you to do something new or different and people don't like change. But I will challenge and say that it depends on the piece of content. I think people are in my audience at least very, very willing to try something. I think certain pieces of content still feel a little out of reach. So if I'm talking about, you know, these are ways that you can save on when you're buying a home. Some people, that's just out of reach for some people right now. And that's okay. Not every piece of content has to be for every bff. But for the simple stuff, I do think people take huge advantage and they're trying to implement and implement it in their daily life. I think something that people also struggle with is actually being able to discern who on the Internet is qualified and has the credentials to be talking about this versus who's just selling snake oil. Because there are a lot of financial gurus out there who don't actually have any qualifications. They don't have a finance background. They're just good marketers. They just know how to make a hook on Instagram.
Scott
Welcome to the Internet.
Financial Expert
Welcome to the Internet. But like, so if I'm. My content is literally slotted directly after that person's. They're looking at that video and then they watch mine. They may be fearful of taking action on the helpful tip that I've shared because they don't know if they can trust what I'm saying. Because maybe the person before me was unscrupulous.
Guest
I agree that, I mean, like, finance education through traditional means is lacking. I mean, you don't get financial education in high school and university and college.
Scott
The way that you should.
Guest
So the answer is independent content creators. But I truly do believe, and this is something that I just feel I would probably have to pull an audience to really get some feedback on it. But I feel like we are in this era of people trying to just consume, consume, consume, and not take action. And I think that that's what I'm trying to actively fight against. But to your point, it's how do you discern who's legit, who's not, what information is credible, what information is not? So when somebody's going on this finance journey, that's a great, that's a great question that they would be asking, like, how do I figure out where to start? How do I figure out where to start getting rich, building wealth? Who do I listen to outside of. Outside of you?
Scott
Like, what are the first steps that.
Guest
I should take that. That aren't too risky, that at least sort of get me going in the right direction because there's so many concepts around wealth building and making more money. Again, it could seem like drinking from the fire hose. And then there's a compounded problem of not being even able to trust the person that you're listening to. So where does that person start if they want to get rich and be wealthy?
Scott
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Financial Expert
Yeah, I always tell people that if people want to get rich, they should strip. And then they're like, oh, didn't realize it was this kind of a podcast. Um, but strip is an acronym. It's just kind of a really easy five step method of like how to get yourself into a really like stable place that you can really start making some impacts in your life. So first and foremost S is savings. You want to have an emergency fund in your savings. I would put it into a high yield savings account. So you want three to six months of living expenses set aside for this rainy day fund, this emergency fund and this is going to help prevent you from going into further financial duress in case something happens. You break your leg, the wheel rolls off your car, your roof caves in, something bad happens. Then once you have that emergency fund set up in a high yield savings account where you're earning more interest, you move on to T total debt. And the reason it's a T is because people who pay down their debt will just pay it down willy nilly. And that is mathematically not the right way to do it. So what you actually want to do is rank your total debt from highest to lowest interest rate, make the minimum payment across everything to keep your credit score in good standing and then any additional pay down funds you're actually going to put towards the debt with the highest interest rate, typically credit cards. So this is going to help you pay your debt off faster while paying less in fees. And this is the mathematically correct way to pay down debt r retirement. We talked about this earlier. You got to have a plan for future you. And so I encourage people to take advantage of tax benefits. Legislators write the tax code and the IRS enforces it. And the way that the tax code is written incentivizes us to do things that they want us to do and disincentivizes us to do things that they don't want us to do. So an incentive they want is for us to save for retirement and invest for retirement. Because the government does not want to take care of you in your old age, they want you to take care of you. So you're going to get tax benefits by tapping into an employer sponsored retirement plan like a 401k, 403b tsp if you're in Canada, RRSP, um, so many letters and they all totally make sense, right? But also tapping into things like a traditional IRA or a Roth ira. Those stand for Individual Retirement Account. You want to be able to leverage tax advantaged accounts like a 5 to 9 if you want to help save for your kiddos education, there's lots of options. But it's not enough to just open these accounts. You actually have to fund it with cash. And then I invest. So people always say, what's the perfect investment? There's no such thing. Okay? When I worked on Wall street, hedge funds would call us regularly and being like, yo, we made a couple bad calls, we gotta unwind all of our trades, we're blowing up. If these people who have very literally billions of dollars of technology and research at their fingertips can't seem to get it right, what makes you think 15 minutes on Yahoo. Finance is going to help you get there? You're not. What I say is invest in a diversified portfolio of index funds that track the broader market. So instead of buying an entire bag of Almond Joy candy bars, you're getting the Halloween bag, which is Kit Kats, Twix, Almond Joy, Snickers, you know, what have you. So you're getting a little bit of everything that's going to really help diversify your portfolio. And if you're listening to this and you're like, well, that was still gibberish, just utilize something called a Robo Advisor. You sign up for the account and you take a quick quiz about your money goals. So what you have, what you earn, how old you are, what your family looks like, where you live, when you want to retire, yada yada yada. And then it spits out a diversified portfolio that makes sense based on your financial situation. And then they email you once or twice, I would say probably once every one year or two years to retake the quiz. So then if you've made a lot more money or something has happened or.
Guest
You gotten divorced, risk tolerance changes all that.
Financial Expert
It'll rebalance your portfolio for you. And then last but not least is P. Everybody's favorite plan. You have to have a plan of what your happily ever after looks like. Some people's happily ever after is, I retire at 35. I live in an Airstream. I never wear shoes again. Not me. Not me. I would rather retire at a more traditional age. 60, 65. But I better have a vacation home. I better still be able to go on vacation. I better still be able to go and travel. I better be able to take care of pickles, my fat English bulldogs, like heartworm medication. Like, I want to be able to have certain things in my life, and I don't want to have to worry about money. And if that's the case, like, you need to know, what's that. What's that going to cost? Because retirement number one in the Airstream and retirement in your vacation home look very, very different.
Guest
So I know you have a number. So your number's 25 million.
Financial Expert
Yeah, that's my FU number.
Guest
That's your FU number. Okay. So obviously that's for. And you know what, though? I've thought about this, because I was. Again, I listened to the podcast that you've been on before, and I was thinking about that number, and it's an FU number if you had it now, because there's ways you can make that money last. But when you're like, 65, that's like. It's an FU number then. But ultimately, I mean, if you made that over years and you were taxed on it and then you invested, like, it's.
Scott
It's.
Guest
It's a lot of money, but it's still. The cost of living is going to increase, too.
Financial Expert
Yeah.
Guest
So that 25 million at 65 may afford you a very comfortable last few years of your life, but, I mean, you still have to understand how to invest it strategically. So you don't just blow through it either, because you can still F that up. I mean, people F that up all the time. And the best examples that we see are athletes who get these huge sums of money, then they're going bankrupt by the time they're 30. So it's really easy to fuck this up if you don't know what you're doing. So, first of all, why is 25 million your number? Because I know that you're very strategic and you've done some math around why that's your number. And also, how should someone else calculate their number? Like, what's the mechanics? Obviously, you don't know someone else's life, but what's the thought process that you went through? That somebody else can use.
Financial Expert
Yeah. So my fu number is $25 million. Because $25 million invested, earning a very conservative 4% return every single year would give me about a million bucks in returns. And even after paying capital gains taxes on that, I would still be able to fund my lifestyle, fund my homes, fund my travel, fund any sort of expenses, and frankly, probably still be able to even help out my kid if I needed to. That's what it would take for me to have a very comfortable, very comfortable average life. This does not get you the private jet. This does not get you the yacht. This does not get you living in.
Guest
Is a million a year, Monaco million a year. And then if you, if you took out four, you'd still have to pay capital gains on that. So, yeah, okay, so you pay capital gains on that.
Financial Expert
You pay capital gain. So you're roughly ending up with about 858 50.
Scott
And then, I mean, if you had.
Guest
A two person in the household and you had like three or four kids going to private school, like, I'm not.
Financial Expert
Saying three or four. Are you crazy? One to two. Don't put that juju on me.
Guest
I'm just saying.
Scott
Yeah, that money goes quick.
Financial Expert
It does.
Guest
Money goes very, very quick. So you can have an FU number like 25 million, but you still have to have a very.
Financial Expert
But that's also my baseline. Yes, my baseline. F you obviously, frankly, I haven't even really thought too much about, like, what's my top, top end of it. But like, I would say $100 million. Like, I would not work anymore.
Guest
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Scott
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Podcast Information:
In this enlightening episode of the Success Story Podcast, host Scott D. Clary engages in a comprehensive discussion with financial expert Vivian Tu. The episode delves deep into the challenges individuals face regarding financial stress and outlines a strategic approach to building lasting wealth through the STRIP Framework.
Vivian Tu opens the conversation by addressing the root causes of financial stress that keep many individuals stuck in a cycle of financial instability. She emphasizes that despite the abundance of financial content available, many people struggle to implement practical strategies in their lives.
Vivian Tu [03:17]: "People have a hard time focusing on all the other versions of rich when they're not even making enough money because they're so stressed out about paying next month rent."
Tu further explains that the rising cost of living exacerbates financial stress, making it challenging for individuals to move beyond mere survival and start building wealth.
Vivian introduces the STRIP Framework, a five-step method designed to guide individuals toward financial stability and wealth accumulation. Each component of the framework addresses a critical aspect of personal finance:
S – Savings
Vivian Tu [10:44]: "You want three to six months of living expenses set aside for this rainy day fund, this emergency fund."
T – Total Debt
Vivian Tu [11:15]: "Make the minimum payment across everything to keep your credit score in good standing and then any additional pay down funds you're actually going to put towards the debt with the highest interest rate."
R – Retirement Planning
Vivian Tu [12:05]: "You want to be able to leverage tax-advantaged accounts like a 401k, 403b, or Roth IRA to help save for your retirement."
I – Investing
Vivian Tu [13:25]: "Invest in a diversified portfolio of index funds that track the broader market... utilize something called a Robo Advisor."
P – Plan
Vivian Tu [14:00]: "You have to have a plan of what your happily ever after looks like... know what that is and what it's going to cost."
A pivotal part of the discussion revolves around the concept of the FU Number—a personalized financial milestone that signifies financial freedom. Vivian Tu explains how to calculate this number to ensure a comfortable and secure future.
Example Calculation: Tu mentions her own FU number of $25 million, explaining that with a conservative 4% annual return, this amount would yield approximately $1 million per year after taxes. This would cover her lifestyle needs and provide additional financial security.
Vivian Tu [15:00]: "My FU number is $25 million because $25 million invested, earning a very conservative 4% return every single year, would give me about a million bucks in returns."
Customizing Your FU Number: Tu outlines the mechanics of determining an individual's FU number by considering factors such as desired lifestyle, expenses, and investment returns. She encourages listeners to tailor this number to their unique financial goals and circumstances.
Vivian Tu [16:10]: "So, my FU number is $25 million because it allows me to fund my lifestyle, homes, travel, and even help out my kids if needed."
Throughout the conversation, Vivian Tu identifies several obstacles that prevent individuals from achieving financial freedom:
Comfort with the Status Quo: Many prefer the familiarity of their current financial situation over the discomfort that comes with making significant changes.
Vivian Tu [04:16]: "Comfort with the status quo and fear of change is a big one. It's easier to be slightly uncomfortable than to pick up a side hustle."
Lack of Credible Financial Advice: The abundance of unqualified financial content online makes it difficult for individuals to discern trustworthy advice from "snake oil" salesmen.
Vivian Tu [05:44]: "People struggle with being able to discern who on the Internet is qualified versus who's just selling snake oil."
Implementation Gap: Even when individuals consume valuable financial content, many fail to implement the strategies into their daily lives.
Vivian Tu [04:16]: "Even with all the financial content, people aren't taking that financial content and actually implementing it into their lives."
Vivian Tu provides listeners with a clear roadmap to overcome these obstacles and embark on their journey to financial freedom:
Establish an Emergency Fund: Secure three to six months' worth of living expenses in a high-yield savings account to cushion against unexpected financial shocks.
Strategically Pay Down Debt: Prioritize debt repayment based on interest rates, ensuring that high-interest debts are addressed first while maintaining minimum payments on all other debts.
Maximize Retirement Contributions: Take full advantage of employer-sponsored retirement plans and individual retirement accounts to benefit from tax advantages and compound growth.
Invest Wisely: Build a diversified investment portfolio using index funds or robo advisors to ensure steady growth and mitigate risks.
Define and Plan for Your Financial Goals: Clearly outline what financial freedom looks like for you and set specific goals to achieve it, adjusting your plan as your circumstances evolve.
This episode serves as a valuable guide for individuals seeking to break free from financial stress and build lasting wealth. Vivian Tu's STRIP Framework offers a practical and structured approach to personal finance, empowering listeners to take actionable steps toward achieving their financial goals. By emphasizing savings, strategic debt management, retirement planning, wise investing, and goal-oriented planning, Tu provides a comprehensive blueprint for financial freedom.
Vivian Tu [03:17]: "People have a hard time focusing on all the other versions of rich when they're not even making enough money because they're so stressed out about paying next month rent."
Vivian Tu [10:44]: "You want three to six months of living expenses set aside for this rainy day fund, this emergency fund."
Vivian Tu [11:15]: "Make the minimum payment across everything to keep your credit score in good standing and then any additional pay down funds you're actually going to put towards the debt with the highest interest rate."
Vivian Tu [12:05]: "You want to be able to leverage tax-advantaged accounts like a 401k, 403b, or Roth IRA to help save for your retirement."
Vivian Tu [13:25]: "Invest in a diversified portfolio of index funds that track the broader market... utilize something called a Robo Advisor."
Vivian Tu [14:00]: "You have to have a plan of what your happily ever after looks like... know what that is and what it's going to cost."
Vivian Tu [15:00]: "My FU number is $25 million because $25 million invested, earning a very conservative 4% return every single year, would give me about a million bucks in returns."
This detailed exploration of the STRIP Framework provides listeners with actionable insights and a clear pathway to financial independence. Whether you're just starting your financial journey or looking to refine your strategies, Vivian Tu's expertise offers invaluable guidance to achieve lasting wealth and peace of mind.