Tim Storey - Celebrity Life Coach | The Science Behind Sudden Success

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Podcast Summary: Tim Storey - Celebrity Life Coach | The Science Behind Sudden Success

Podcast: Success Story with Scott D. Clary
Air Date: January 8, 2026
Host: Scott D. Clary
Guest: Tim Storey

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Episode Overview

This episode features Tim Storey, celebrated life strategist, “comeback coach,” spiritual leader, and mentor to celebrities, athletes, and everyday people. Host Scott D. Clary explores the roots of Storey's "miracle mentality," the science and psychology behind breaking through ceilings, the pitfalls that block personal greatness, and how to recognize and seize transformative opportunities in one's life. The conversation is authentic and conversational, filled with powerful stories, tactical frameworks, spiritual insight, and actionable wisdom for anyone striving to go from “almost” to "utmost."

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Main Themes and Discussion Points

1. The Miracle Mentality: Thinking Beyond the Ordinary

• Definition:
  • Storey describes the miracle mentality as "having a mentality where you think extraordinary, uncommon and not normal." (00:01)
• Innate vs. Conditioned:
  • This mentality is intrinsic to all of us, like a child’s innate ability to dream of unicorns and superheroes rather than settle for the ordinary (02:30).
  • Over time, authority figures and societal norms try to "constrict" and limit this possibility thinking, conditioning people to "be realistic" and thus stifling their aspirations (04:15).

2. Breaking Through Adversity and Ceilings

• Personal Story:
  • Storey grew up poor in Compton, lost his father at 10, and saw his mother work menial jobs. Despite circumstances that “could have removed the miracle...from young Tim," he always saw a way out. He calls this "thinking big in small places." (06:01)
• Universal Principle:
  • No matter the adversity (war-torn childhoods, personal tragedy), high achievers often maintain a sense of magic and possibility. “In the midst of all the adversity and challenge, they knew...that life was not just going to be better, but life could still be magical.” (06:01)

3. Disappointment and the "Sudden Good Break"

• The Cost of Disappointment:
  • Storey references Proverbs: “Unrelenting disappointment can leave you heart sick...But a sudden good break can turn your life around." (08:13)
  • Too many negative imprints lead people to expect disappointment and “you are already signing up for disappointment that has not even come.” (10:12)
• The Comeback Coach:
  • Storey views his own mission as teaching people to look for the "sudden good break"—the opportunity that changes everything, no matter the setbacks. (08:13)

4. The Power of Perception, Alignment, and Potential

• Alignment:
  • “It's just about being in alignment to the creation of how we were created to be,” Tim explains, comparing untapped human potential to an underutilized new iPhone. Most settle for “almost” instead of “utmost.” (12:07)
• Ceiling Metaphor:
  • “It depends how high the ceiling is that you were raised around...most listeners, your ceiling's too doggone low.” (13:54)

5. Unlocking Untapped Potential

• Case Study: Pharrell Williams:
  • Pharrell’s journey from producer to global fashion mogul exemplifies the transition from “almost” to “utmost”—unlocking layer upon layer of hidden talent via partnerships and openness to new experiences. (15:36)

6. Frameworks for Growth: Education, Conversation, Observation

• Pathway to Progress:
  • The stepping stones to big leaps are education (learning), conversation (connecting), and observation (seeing others succeed). “Observation begins to build your faith that I can do it too.” (19:47)

7. The Power of Partnership and Taking Action

• The Cliff Story:
  • Storey tells of being too scared to leap off a cliff until a stranger—confident and experienced—grabbed him and jumped together: “I help people jump.” (22:46)
  • Memorable Quote:
    • “Part of the idea of jumping is guys at your stage of life...you are called to help people jump.” (23:18)
• Identity Shift:
  • Action shifts identity from “watching a jumper” to “actually a jumper”—the difference between passive learning and lived experience. (24:16)
• Power of Partnership:
  • Seek out those who have expertise you lack. “That is the power of partnership.” (25:29)

8. Influence and Storytelling: Onboarding People into the Cause

• Influence:
  • Storey excels at “onboarding people into a way of thinking,” similar to how Chick-fil-A immerses employees in its founding story and mission. Life transformation requires that same buy-in to a cause. (29:04)
• The Importance of Storytelling:
  • Storytelling, both personal and collective, is central to transformation and leadership:
    • “The art of storytelling is really missing in this world...but it also keeps Scott in alignment as his story continues to unfold.” (37:16)

9. Relationships, Boundaries, and Inner Circle

• Filtering People:
  • The wrong “cast” members in your story can derail your narrative. Education and experience help one discern who belongs in your inner life. (41:49)
  • On Betrayal:
    • “You have to really be careful who you let in your inside, because those are the people that can cause either the most strength or the most damage.” (48:54)
• Boundaries:
  • Empathy and boundaries coexist: “The key is to always be fair, firm, and friendly. But people are afraid to be firm. Not me.” (47:06)
• Forgiveness and Releasing:
  • “You need to recognize it...and find a way to just release that person from your life, from your soul...It hurt like hell, but I release that life experience.” (49:44)

10. High Performers: Revelation and Obstacles

• Secret Sauce:
  • High performers have an “aha” revelation—an internal sense that something big is possible for them. (52:03)
  • The journey moves from revelation, to sitting and learning, to standing, to walking, running, and then soaring. (53:31)
• Obstacle:
  • Often, “opposition to the mission” comes from others who lack revelation and question or misunderstand your drive (55:22).

11. Talent, Ego, and the Dangers of Entitlement

• The Unused Gift:
  • Storey’s biggest frustration: talented people unwilling to develop their gift—a mix of laziness and entitlement. (57:43)
• Ego:
  • The Bible teaches: “Ego is necessary. God never tries to kill someone's ego. He wants to purify it.” (59:24)

12. Spiritual Principles and Societal Loss

• Becoming Secular:
  • Storey sees value in religious principles—particularly service, empathy, and listening to the “cries of others”—being lost in modern secular society, to society’s detriment. (62:21, 62:57)
• Social Media and Gratitude:
  • Social media breeds comparison and resentment. Guard your “eye gate and ear gate”—be mindful of what you consume and celebrate others genuinely. (66:51)
• Final Story:
  • Storey shares a story about an offhand encounter with a struggling comedian who died by suicide two months later—a reminder of unseen battles and the need to always “lead with love.” (68:59)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On the Miracle Mentality:

  • “A miracle mentality to me is having a mentality where you think extraordinary, uncommon and not normal.” (00:01)
  • “All of us have the ability to think big in small places.” (06:01)

• On Disappointment:

  • “Unrelenting disappointment can leave you heart sick. But a sudden good break can turn your life around.” (08:13)
  • “No matter how many setbacks you've had...look for the sudden good break. That break is that opportunity.” (08:13)

• On Breaking Through Ceilings:

  • “It depends how high the ceiling is that you were raised around...most listeners, your ceiling's too doggone low.” (13:54)

• On Action and Identity:

  • “What this guy did, when he grabbed your arm and jumped, he changed your identity from somebody who was just watching a jumper to somebody who was actually a jumper.” (24:16)

• On Influence and Storytelling:

  • “I have become a master of onboarding people into a way of thinking.” (29:04)
  • “The art of storytelling is really missing in this world...it helps you to stay in alignment to your authenticity.” (37:16)

• On Filtering Relationships:

  • “Not everybody is supposed to be a cast in your story. We need to kick some cast members out.” (40:37)
  • “The people that can do the most damage are the ones on the inside.” (48:54)

• On Releasing Pain:

  • “You need to recognize it...find a way to just release that person from your life, from your soul...That will give you the freedom to move on in more clarity and freedom.” (49:44)

• On High Performers:

  • “There was a time in your life when you said to yourself, dog on it, I think I'm gonna do something big in life...It was a revelation.” (52:48)

• On Ego:

  • “God never tries to kill someone's ego. He wants to purify it. Because ego that's not purified is going to get you in a heck of a lot of trouble.” (59:24)

• On Societal Shifts:

  • “I think people in the society are so busy just trying to get what's theirs, they don't hear the cries of the hurting.” (62:57)
  • “We are more connected than ever before, but we're more isolated and more self-serving than ever before too.” (65:00)

• On Leading With Love:

  • “We got to lead with love. We got to lead with empathy. You have to do your best to look past people's faults, flaws, and failures because you never know the pain that they might be in.” (70:37)

• Final Advice:

  • “What I would tell my 20 year old self is you're going to be okay.” (72:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Defining Miracle Mentality: 00:00–02:00
• Innate Imagination and Limiting Beliefs: 02:30–04:15
• Overcoming Adversity: 06:00–08:13
• Impact of Disappointment: 08:13–10:15
• Ceilings and Living in “Utmost”: 12:07–13:54
• Discussion on Pharrell Williams & Untapped Potential: 15:36–17:39
• Steps for Growth (Education, Conversation, Observation): 17:39–19:47
• The Cliff Story: Action Changes Identity: 20:35–24:16
• Influence Through Storytelling and Onboarding: 29:04–32:36
• Boundaries and Filtering People: 41:49–49:44
• High Performers and Revelation: 52:03–53:31
• Ego and Purification: 59:24–60:53
• Spiritual Principles & Societal Decline: 62:21–65:00
• Final Story (Leading with Love): 68:59–70:54
• Closing Reflection (Advice to 20-Year-Old Self): 72:04–72:10

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Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is warm, encouraging, and deeply personal, mixing faith-rooted wisdom with pragmatic psychology and street-smart advice. Tim Storey’s strength lies in making complex mindsets and spiritual truths accessible, actionable, and inspiring, whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, creative, or simply looking for your next opportunity.

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For more from Tim Storey:

• Website: timstorey.com
• Podcast: The Miracle Mentality
• Initiative: Lead with Love (Mini masterminds worldwide focusing on holistic growth)

“You’re going to be okay.” (Tim Storey’s advice to his 20-year-old self – 72:10)

Transcript

[Scott Clary]

What does miracle mentality mean to you?

[Tim Storey]

A miracle mentality to me is having a mentality where you think extraordinary, uncommon and not normal.

[Scott Clary]

Some people chase success, but others chase meaning. Tim Storey is one of the world's most sought after life strategists, spiritual leaders and inspirational voices.

[Tim Storey]

I believe the miracle mentality is innate. Think big in small places. In the midst of all the adversity and challenge, they knew that somehow, some way, that life was not just going to be better, but life could still be magical. Relenting disappointment can leave you heart sick. But a sudden good break can turn your life around. No matter how many setbacks you've had, how disappointed that you've been, look for the sudden good break. That break is that opportunity.

[Scott Clary]

He's counseled world leaders, celebrities, elite athletes and everyday people, guiding them to unlock, purpose, heal wounds and step into their highest potential. His message isn't just about achievement, it's about transformation and courage. When others see fear through education, conversation.

[Tim Storey]

Observation is a begin, begins to build your faith that I can do it too. Ego is necessary. God never tries to kill someone's ego. He wants to purify it. Because ego that's not purified is going to get you in a heck of a lot of trouble.

[Scott Clary]

So Tim, what does miracle mentality mean to you?

[Tim Storey]

I think as you know, a mentality is a mindset, frame of mind, perspective. A miracle mentality to me is having a mentality where you think extraordinary, uncommon and not normal.

[Scott Clary]

I think a lot of people have a hard time thinking extraordinary, uncommon, not normal. The way that I look at, the way that I look at where people get blocked in life and I think that you're going to be able to speak to this and tell a couple stories is they look at what their parents accomplished and achieved, they look at what people in their immediate vicinity achieved and that's their ceiling and that's their reality. And I want you to tell a very brief sort of origin story where you came from. But you had not the best set of circumstances growing up. So you had the ceiling that a lot of people have. Yes, but you were able to move above and beyond and have this miracle mentality where you thought bigger than what your immediate set of circumstances were. How are you different than most people? Why?

[Tim Storey]

Number one, you're correct in the fact of the. The mentor, the teacher will constrict a person, sequester a person and stop them from having a miracle mentality if you're not careful. But I believe that the miracle mentality is innate. I Believe that because of the fact that we're made in the image of God, that there is something inside of us that wants to go beyond. So little kids, they want to play with Spider Man, Iron Man, Superman, they don't want to play with just regular toys. Little girls want a theme party that's unicorn or something that's outlandish. If you take any little kid into a toy store, they're thinking beyond. So I, I did this research just for this talk, that the average Barbie doll is right at about 15 to 25 dollars a Barbie. But there is a Barbie house that is, is high. I'm gonna blow you away as $3,000. So what could happen is that a child could go into a toy store and you say to the little girl, okay, I'm going to buy you this Barbie that's $1525. But she's like, yeah, that's awesome, but I want the house that's 3,000. And because they have a miracle mentality that's innate, they're thinking that the parents can buy it.

[Scott Clary]

No. But then the question becomes, so what happens if we are born that way and it's innate? Then what happens to us as we grow older? And then we lose that.

[Tim Storey]

So the, the studies show that what takes place is that we have this expansion in us that we want to do things different, better and more magical. That's, that's within every person. They see things and they're like, oh, I want to do something a little different, a little better and a little more magical, a little more extraordinary. And it's very common for maybe an aunt or an uncle or a school teacher or maybe sometimes even religion to try to bring the limitations in. So now that young person starts saying, I guess I can't reach for that.

[Scott Clary]

So it's the be realistic, be realistic.

[Tim Storey]

And if they feel like they are now starting to reach and kind of getting their hand slapped, then it's looked at as rebellion, when really it was just God's plan for somebody's life to be spectacular.

[Scott Clary]

So if people don't know your origin story, I'm just going to read the set of circumstances that you came from. So you grew up with seven people crammed into a two bedroom apartment in Compton. Your father died and passed away when you were 10, your sister at 12. But even with this set of circumstances, even with all these things that would have removed the miracle and the aspirational from young Tim, you still found a way. So what was the inflection point? What was the thing that even though you don't listen. This is a tough childhood for anybody. What's the inflection point where you think, okay, things aren't perfect, but I'm going to eventually be the Tim story anyways that I become. Is it a person, is it an event? Is it. What is it?

[Tim Storey]

I think that all of us have this in us and that is the ability to, what I say, think big in small places. So because I have traveled, I've been to 82 countries now I'll talk to people that were, were raised in a war torn area and they grew up, grew up, like waking up to bombs blowing up around them. And I would say to these people, like, what was your mindset? And some of these people that have done extremely well would say in the midst of all the adversity and challenge, they knew that somehow, some way, that life was not just going to be better, but life could still be magical. And so that's how I felt as a child, that when my father died, when a man ran a red light and, and he died and my mother, who had a sixth grade education, worked at Winchell's donut shop, had to raise her children. It did not look good if you looked at it just through the senses. But I never looked at life through just the senses. I have this miracle mentality that I did think somehow, some way, not only am I going to get out, I'm gonna find a way to do something that's kind of fantastic.

[Scott Clary]

Do you think that you naturally or intuitively see the positive? And what I mean by this is I think that most people start that way. Like you, you did research on this. So they do, but then they see the negative. The negative of life imprints in their mind. When things don't work out, it imprints. And then they say the next time, well, I don't know if I can accomplish that thing. I don't know if I can take the risk because I remember the thing that didn't work out.

[Tim Storey]

Yes.

[Scott Clary]

But I think the only difference is between somebody who is able to achieve this miracle mentality is they see when things work out and that's what they remember. And it gives them the audacity to take the risk the next time. Is that something that came naturally to you? Do you agree with that? Is that something that came naturally to you or.

[Tim Storey]

I think it's as though you wrote a book on it. It's, it's, it's perfect what you're saying. So the framework is this, is that there's a, there's A biblical scripture, a verse. It says, unrelenting disappointment. So disappointment means something did not work. So a relationship did not work. A startup company did not work. You try to get through a health situation quicker, and it did not work. Unrelenting disappointment can leave you heart sick. That's a proverb. To be heartsick means to be, to be ill. The heart is a center of your being. Joy comes from the heart. Peace, faith, goodness. So when somebody is heart sick, this is interesting. You are literally fading in the center. So disappointment causes people to fade in the center of who they are. That's why you could be funny and someone will still not laugh. Something good can happen, and they don't even enjoy it because they've been so disappointed, they become heart sick. But then the Bible then says in the same verse, it says, but a sudden good break can turn your life around. So this is where I come in and where I became, as Oprah Winfrey says, the original comeback coach is that I teach people, no matter how many setbacks you've had, how disappointed that you've been, look for the sudden good break. That break is that opportunity.

[Scott Clary]

How do you recognize that? How do you see that?

[Tim Storey]

Not easy. Because what happens is that when you've been disappointed, disappointed, disappointed, you almost start to look for the disappointment you do.

[Scott Clary]

100. You have that bias for, for negative, right?

[Tim Storey]

So let's take two places in the world. One is Seattle, Washington. The other one is. Is Bergen, Norway. Both of these places I've been to a lot because I, I travel to, to Scandinavia a lot for different businesses and things. If you go to Bergen, it's such a beautiful place. It's so green. It's gorgeous. It rains so much that you look for rain. Seattle rains so much, you start to look for rain. There are people that are watching and listening right now that you have gone through so much disappointment, you are already signing up for disappointment that has not even come.

[Scott Clary]

It's. I think that that's the majority of people, unfortunately.

[Tim Storey]

It's.

[Scott Clary]

I think that there's this air of pessimism around how life has worked out. Or. And don't get me wrong, you could still be. This is what is difficult. People can still be content and things can still be going okay, but you can still default to the negative. Yes, we were just chatting about this. But ultimately when you default to negative, even if things are okay, and it's like you are pursuing good but not great like it. Yeah, you are okay with the status quo because it's comfortable, but it's not exceptional. And I think that. I think that it is actually very fair to say that most people live in the status quo, in the content with life.

[Tim Storey]

Yes.

[Scott Clary]

And then you say, well, well, they will say, well, I don't need more. I don't. I don't want to be greedy and I don't want to pursue. But I think that it's not about being greedy. It's about living. It's about when you see the positive. This is something I've noticed in my life, at least. When you see the positive, things come to you and opportunities come to you that you never even would have thought possible. And it's not about being greedy. It's just about opening up your mind to these opportunities.

[Tim Storey]

Agree, agree, agree. So I think it's just about being in alignment to the creation of how we were created to be. So it's almost like an iPhone. When a new iPhone comes out, they'll do a lot of promotion on what this new iPhone will do. But studies show that many times people don't even do any of the new things that they can do on it because they're just creatures of habit. So I think that the way God manufactured us is to. Is to just be brilliant and to create things and to build things and to do things, and if we fail to get back up. So I. I say this. I wrote a book about 20 years ago called Utmost Living, and I did it with Random House. And I say that in this book that there's three levels of living. Almost most. And utmost almost means not quite. So when you live not quite long enough, as you are saying, you start to become stuck in an almost life because again, the relationship almost worked, the startup almost worked. So now you're almost afraid to go for the most. Well, what's the most? The most is the ceiling. So right now we're in your podcast studio. If I was to let go a helium balloon, it would go, go, go, go, go. And it would stop at the ceiling. So it depends on how high the ceiling is that you were raised around. Isn't that powerful?

[Scott Clary]

Very, very.

[Tim Storey]

So most. Most listeners and those watching your ceilings, too.

[Scott Clary]

Doggone low thousand percent. And even when you think. Even when you think you're pushing boundaries and you're pushing bar. Like when I look at my. I just keep using myself as an example. So I'm doing stuff that my parents never did.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

All right. So my parents, very great careers, very safe careers. Worked in government. My mom worked for university up in Canada. And being entrepreneurial was not in my DNA at all. So I'm already. I'm all. I think this is actually a trap that people get stuck into. They. They break the ceiling because that's sort of like level one. They break the ceiling of their parents and their. And their upbringing, and then they're like, well, I did it, but, like, what's next?

[Tim Storey]

Agree. Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

And then you almost get comfortable at the next plateau, But I think that there's more urgency to escape for a lot of ambitious people, the ceiling that your parents set than the ceiling of the next plateau, which is where I'm at right now. So right now I've broken the plateau of what my parents would ever have, sort of, you know, not to say they ever wanted to do anything that I'm doing, but they never built a business themselves. I did that. Exciting. Interesting. Okay, so how do I break through to the next ceiling, the next plateau?

[Tim Storey]

So what I would do as a. As a therapist, because that's my background. So doctorate in world religion and then studied therapy and then became a therapist for now over 30 years. So I call it discovering the hidden you. So within Scott, is potential. And some of it is untapped, I guarantee you.

[Scott Clary]

With everybody. Yes, for sure. Yeah, definitely for me.

[Tim Storey]

So. So. So potential is a possibility, a capability, something that can be drawn from. So let's take Pharrell Williams for a minute because we're both creatives and we can respect what he's done. He's working on music, and he's only so good. And then he meets this guy named Chad, who's his buddy from school. And then they start to make music together that later on becomes something called the Neptunes. And then they start to meet different people, like Teddy Riley, who is also a friend of mine, and they start to create music. And so Pharrell finds. Okay, man, I'm pretty good at this. Producing. And then people start saying, but you could also sing. You should do a solo album. So now he's a producer. Then he's a solo guy. Then he meets Hans Zimmer and he starts scoring big movies. Then he starts getting into fashion, and he creates billionaires, boys club shirts, shoes, hats. Now he's doing all that, and he's ahead of Louis Vuitton men. You know what that is? He had untapped potential. He discovered that potential, and he took it from almost most to utmost. So that's what's happening in your life right now.

[Scott Clary]

A thousand percent for people to. And you know this Pharrell story. So maybe you know how this worked out for Him. But what was the first step in him going on that utmost journey? What I'm trying to figure out is do you just start taking massive action, massive risk, doing shit that scares you, jumping into this project, that project, this joint venture, very tactical, or.

[Tim Storey]

Yes.

[Scott Clary]

Do you figure out your North Star and maybe there's an exercise to figure that out, then you pursue that aggressive.

[Tim Storey]

I think you can handle this teaching better than most because I think that this is the. This is the way to build. That's better, that will last longer, rather than just jumping off a damn cliff. There's three ways we learn. Education, conversation, and observation. To educate somebody on a specific area. Like the fact that some people used to be afraid of AI and some people still are. We can go and get educated to where if we just. Me and you just dove into AI and understanding AI for six months, all of a sudden, Scott, me and you could just be having some amazing conversations. And now we start to build our faith in that area. So that's through education. We also grow through conversation. And that's one reason your podcast is doing so well, because you're having conversations with people. And now those listening, watching right now, they become voyeurs into these conversations that they could not do 50 years ago. You agree?

[Scott Clary]

A thousand percent.

[Tim Storey]

So Education, conversation. But here's one of the greatest ways. Observation. When we can watch somebody, even if it's from afar, and you go, oh my God, look what that lady pulled off, or look what that man pulled off, or look what this kid invented. Look at this person created through education, conversation, observation. What it does is it begins to build your faith that I can do it too. That I can do it too. And that's what happened to Tim's story. Coming out of the inner city, lower income, we could not afford much. And then what? Look at my life now. Becomes a life coach to the stars. Had my own office on Cannon Drive in Beverly Hills when I was a young guy. I mean, it wasn't by accident. It was Education, conversation, observation.

[Scott Clary]

Now, to play devil's advocate. Actually not devil's advocate, because that's the wrong word. But I think that we are in an age where if somebody has bought into the idea of learning and upskilling themselves and surrounding themselves with people that have done it before, we are almost like over indexing on knowledge accumulation and observation and education, and we don't actually take action. I know people that will listen to this podcast all day, every day, and they never do anything. They'll go read every single book, they'll Go listen to you on stage at Aspire or any other places you speak. And they don't do anything. And that's also very frustrating because I want them to consume the content. I want them to listen to the podcast. I want them to go see you on stage. Um, but why do people take step one and don't take step two, which is massive action?

[Tim Storey]

Okay, so I think I have the answer. So I remember I was 20 years of age, and I was in a. I was in a certain country, and I was there Speaking at only 20 years of age, and these guys were walking up this big cliff, and then they're gonna jump off this very high cliff into this beautiful ocean. So I'm watching these guys do it. I'm like, every guy I watched did not build my faith. I was like, these dudes.

[Scott Clary]

Doesn't matter how many jump off doesn't make me want to jump off.

[Tim Storey]

Right. So I remember turning to say, I'm going back down the cliff because this is. I can't do it. Like, I'm frozen. So as I'm doing this. This white guy, who happens to be from California and we're in a whole different country, comes rolling up. He goes, are you American? I go, yeah. He goes, have you jumped yet? I go, no. I said, to be honest with you. I'm going down because I'm kind of afraid to jump. He goes, you're afraid to jump? He goes, come here. Just come up here and stand with me. And he goes, there's nothing down there. There's no rocks. There's no nothing. It's just exhilaration. He said, so just come a little closer. As I get a little closer, and he takes my arm and he jumps with me. His arm with my arm. I never met this dude.

[Scott Clary]

Oh, my God.

[Tim Storey]

And. And I'm gone. I'm just. I'm just with him, but I'm linked. And as I'm going down, it was not a feeling of being ticked at the guy for making me jump. I felt like this brotherhood of, like, what the crap? So I come up from the water with joy, and he goes like this. He goes like this. He high fives me and goes, effing exhilarating, right? How awesome is that?

[Scott Clary]

That's amazing.

[Tim Storey]

Yes. He did not give me a chance to go back down.

[Scott Clary]

We're our own worst enemy.

[Tim Storey]

Yes. Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

We get in our own heads about it.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah. And I was beginning to intimidate my own self.

[Scott Clary]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Storey]

And. And. And talk myself out of it. You would have thought by watching More people jump. That, that would build my faith. But no, it got me more nervous because some guys were jumping awkwardly and then it looked like they were down there too long. But this guy, he had done it so many times and he knew, he knew that I had it in me. So I, I think he read me quickly as, like a happy, go, lucky guy. He's like, come here, happy, go, lucky guy. And next thing I was, we were jumping. So part of the, the idea of jumping is guys at your stage of life, okay, because you're, you're still young, but yet you're still mature. You are called to help people jump. And this is what I do. I help. I help people jump. I help people jump. And then that. How cool is it when we're underneath and I come up? I got this. Joy goes effing exhilarating.

[Scott Clary]

I love this because we, we psych ourselves out. Yeah, we psych ourselves out. And I think that that's why social media is a blessing and a curse, because we get front row access to all these incredible people and incredible stories.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

But that doesn't change our identity. So our identity can still be. I know all the, I know all the tactics, I know all the strategies, but am I an entrepreneur? Am I somebody that can be married for 50 years? Am I somebody that can go to the gym religiously not just for. Again, not just for January, but for the rest of my life? And that identity shift is difficult for people. But what this guy did, when he grabbed your arm and jumped, he changed your identity from somebody who was just watching a jumper to somebody who was actually a jumper. 100.

[Tim Storey]

So in that I will call the power of partnership. So I do that in my business life. So I spend time with guys that have jumped many times before, and, and they've taught me about things that I did not know before are people who understand taxes, who know how to scale certain things. So they've taught me how to jump in. In all these areas where maybe I used to play it safe before. I like to go to people that are more experienced than me. And that is the power of partnership.

[Scott Clary]

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[Tim Storey]

Right.

[Scott Clary]

You know how to be influential. You know how to change people's lives. What's something that you do that again? You, you came from inner city Compton. You can speak to people that have built billion dollar businesses, people that are making 60 grand a year, people that are just laid off and have. You can speak to all of them. So what's the through line and influence if you want to help somebody else?

[Tim Storey]

Okay, so that, that is, that's a great question. So I have become a master of onboarding people into a way of thinking. So what, what happens many times if somebody goes to work for a company, they're not properly onboarded? This is the history of the company. This is who founded the company. This is the white paper, the mission statement of the company that was written 45 years ago so that person can then start to understand that company. So recently my mother wanted Chick Fil a. Okay? She's 94. She wanted chick Fil A. So I was going through the Chick Fil A drive through and I see these happy kids. It was very crowded, Southern California, sunny day. So as this one super young happy kid, I said, when you got on boarded to Chick Fil A, what was the process in you learning? He says, oh, well, they take you through these videos and then they take you through the history and they teach you about the founders. He's telling me all these things. So then I started to do more research on this. So they really helped the young people understand what Chick Fil A is all about. So when they start to work for Chick Fil A, they feel like they're part of it. We have to do the same thing for people in life. Give them the backstory. Give them what it took to be Scott Clary. Give them what it took to go from Canada to America. Give them the setback to the comeback. Don't you love This. I do.

[Scott Clary]

I do.

[Tim Storey]

So it's so ingrained in you that now you're caught up with the cause. So most people are not caught up with a cause. I am.

[Scott Clary]

I would say that most companies have zero employees that are caught up with the cause.

[Tim Storey]

You're right. I agree. That's why you can go into some really nice stores and you'll say, can you tell me where the men's department is? And it's a nice store. And they'll go like this.

[Scott Clary]

Yeah.

[Tim Storey]

What? Where's that? Instead of saying, because they're not doing anything, he's just talking to another employee. That happened to me two weeks ago. Why couldn't he just say, hey, you know, you look like a sharp guy. Follow me? Because where the men's section was was a little bit hidden, but he could have walked me. Right.

[Scott Clary]

100 to it. Listen, this is a very useful tool, and I don't think people understand how important it is to get people to buy into the cause. Yeah, I don't think people pay it any attention at all. I'm thinking about my own content and how my content really started to take off when I started to get my audience to buy into the cause, meaning I start talking about things that are going on in my life. So it's the same thing if you want to create compelling content and you want to. And you want people to become fans, and not just fans, but, like, just, like, live and breathe and love what you do. It's the same thing if you're hiring people. It's the same thing if you're mentoring somebody. It's like they have to understand your journey. They have to. They have to understand all the stuff you went through and all the good and the bad that you are.

[Tim Storey]

Yes.

[Scott Clary]

Before they can trust and truly listen to you.

[Tim Storey]

Yes, I. I agree. And that's part of the missing element of life in the. The time that we're living in is that storytelling has always been part of history. I. I do a lot with. In Indigenous people, in fact, with the Crow Nation. I've been adopted in the Crow Nation in Montana for, like, 26 years of work that I've done there, given, been given a name, been given land, everything. But in the Crow Nation, part of it is storytelling of the ancestors that have come before and the battles that they fought and why you were now, you know, living on this land because somebody paid the price. The art of storytelling is. Is really missing in this world to where you're at Thanksgiving and you want to hear your grandmother seem like, she's almost over talking. And because we, a lot of young people more want to be on their phone or like, hurry up, let's get this Thanksgiving over. But what you could maybe really hear and listen and learn from your grandmother or your grandfather and these amazing stories. So I am one that I have really grown and been built of amazing.

[Scott Clary]

Stories I can tell because every time you answer a question, you have a great story that just. It just brings it home. It gives it. It gives it. It gives the answer life. Like, I remember all of your answers because you tell a story around it.

[Tim Storey]

Can I give you an example?

[Scott Clary]

Please.

[Tim Storey]

When I started to come into Beverly Hills as a therapist and a life coach, I was only in my 20s. So I'll be sitting with guys like Charlton Heston, Jack Lemon, Walter Mathau. These guys were my friends. And one night I'm out to dinner with the Tony Curtis. And so I said, what was Marilyn Monroe like? Because he. He did a movie called something like It Hot with Marilyn Monroe. And he said, because of your background of going to seminary, I'm not going to give you all the stories. But he goes, but I will give you one good one. And Tony Curtis was such a great storyteller. We're in Spago's at Beverly Hills. I'm in my late 20s. He had me like this in the palm of his hands. And I thought, oh, my gosh. Through that one story that he told on Marilyn Monroe, he took me right in the moment of her life. Their connection, their. That movie. But the power of storytelling can really get within the fabric of our system to where we don't forget something. There's such power in it.

[Scott Clary]

It's such a good leadership tool. I mean, I don't think that. I don't think you can truly max out your life meaning if you want to have the best possible relationships with your kids, with your spouse, if you want to have the best possible career or business that you've built, if you want even the. Even the. Even the other parts of your life, spirituality, health, wellness, you have to tell yourself a story about why this is important to you. Because if you forget your own story, you're not going to remember the importance of the thing you have to tell yourself a story about. Why is it important to be faithful to your spouse? Why is it important to sacrifice a lot for your children? Why is it important that you're building this company again? Year three, it's not going the way you want it to. You're not making the money you wanted to. Maybe you should just go get a job again. What's the story? And I think people don't understand the power of stories in helping them achieve the most in their own life.

[Tim Storey]

I, I really like that, that I.

[Scott Clary]

Just thought of this right now. I think that people.

[Tim Storey]

That is so powerful. And I read a lot and I listen a lot. That's a brilliant idea. Because what happens when you continue to remember your own story and you're alive in your own story as it is unfolding? It helps you to stay in alignment.

[Scott Clary]

Yeah.

[Tim Storey]

To your authenticity of who Scott really is from Toronto, Canada, does that make sense?

[Scott Clary]

A thousand percent. Yeah.

[Tim Storey]

Because when you start to think about, like, your grandparents and your, Your parents and the price they paid and your. Your buddies from, you know, elementary school and junior high school and your first love, all those things have gone, brought us to this moment today in your studio, to where you are now. But it also keeps Scott in alignment as his story continues to unfold.

[Scott Clary]

So why do you think people lose their own stories? What happens? Is it social media pressure from what they think they should accomplish? Pressure from their friends, their peers, the news, the world, whatever? What caused you to lose your own story? What causes someone. Very raw. Real example.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

Thank God this is not my life. But say, say you were married for 30 years and you. And you cheat on your spouse. That wasn't the story. That wasn't your story. When you got, when you proposed, when you got married, when you fell in love, what happened? What's the reason why we lose our own stories?

[Tim Storey]

I think, I think one of the reasons is that we have guests that come into our story that probably should have never even been in the story.

[Scott Clary]

And now the world and technology enables a lot of this.

[Tim Storey]

Yes. So you, You've now cast the wrong people.

[Scott Clary]

Yeah, very much.

[Tim Storey]

Watch how brilliant this is. Right. So the guy that did oceans 11, 12, 13 is a guy that. I know, Steven Soderbergh. I know most of the cast from those movies for years. So there was only so many cast members. If, if they had like seven or eight cast members, it made these movies phenomenal because the way they had the, the way they cast the movie. But if you had 22 cast members in Ocean's Eleven, it wouldn't have. Wouldn't have been the same. Okay. Because then George Clooney would not have the same screen time or, or Brad Pitt or Scott Kahn since I've known him since he was 14 years of age, they would not have had the same screen time. Now watch this. I don't think everyone's supposed to be part of my dog on movie. I don't want to meet everybody. This is a true story about me. Watch. Someone will say to me, tim, oh my God, listen to this. There's going to be this party and so and so is going to show up. And I go, seems awesome. And they go, why don't you want to go? And I go, I don't really have a need to meet him. This is a true story. I have been like this far away from certain people that are like big movie stars or big at what they do or big sports stars and had the right to go there because maybe there's only like 15 people at the party and they were that close and never felt the need to walk across. Now I love meeting people, but not everybody is supposed to be a cast in your story. We need to kick some cast members out.

[Scott Clary]

I think that's wise. But. But it's very hard. You know, it seems like you know how to filter people in your life so that you stay authentic to the Tim story. Story.

[Tim Storey]

Yes.

[Scott Clary]

So how do you do that? How do you know if someone's good for you or bad for you? You can't see the million possible opportunities from every single person that you interact with in your life. And I think that this is. Two things can be true at the same time. That's a very important idea for me because the first idea is in life you should expose yourself to ideas and counterpoints and people because you never know what's going to happen. Right. My life has changed since a couple hundred people have sat where you're sitting and it's completely changed everything that I thought, oh yeah, could ever happen to me. Yes, in the best way possible. But at the same time there's other people that have come into my life that have caused friction, caused stress, lost me money, whatever. And yeah, you can have a pretty good barometer for who's good and who's bad or who is well intentioned or who's malicious. But it's almost impossible to be 100%.

[Tim Storey]

I agree.

[Scott Clary]

So what's your advice as somebody navigates?

[Tim Storey]

Because I'm a teacher, so I'm going to give two E's education and experience education on what fits us again, back to your core principles because you're a very core principled guy. I think that the people that we bring in our inner circle, they have to have similar motives. And so both of us have brought people in our lives that did not have similar motives. And we, we usually paid for it because Their motives were not correct. Does that make sense?

[Scott Clary]

Very much. Yeah.

[Tim Storey]

Okay. So I think the education of, like, what kind of person am I looking for? What kind of principles do they have? And then the experience, in the experience side, I do think that that comes through trial and error at times because I would rather err on the side of being loving and trusting and give somebody a chance. And then if they, if they burn me, then I go, okay, that didn't feel good. But I learned a lesson. So maybe I move a little slower so. Because in, in my world, there's a lot of asks. Like I would say today, just today alone, I've probably been asked for at least 20 favors.

[Scott Clary]

I have no doubt.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah, just today alone, because I'm in. I'm in the world of knowing people. So someone's always asking me to get them to somebody. And a lot of times their motives are. I'm going to just say this. Their. Their motives are whack. And for you that are watching or listening, I know that sounds almost harsh from a guy who's not harsh, but. No, their motives are whack because they're not even ready to meet that person. To have the experience that they want so badly. Does that make sense? So I'm almost doing them a favor by not introducing them. So I think education and experience. But the, the, the wiser I get because it's not just age, it's. It's wisdom in the time frame, the wiser I get. I let fewer and fewer people into my inside of my life.

[Scott Clary]

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[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

How do you couple those two ideas? How do you be radically empathetic, but as you get wiser, you have a stronger filtering mechanism.

[Tim Storey]

Yes. So I think, I think the best teaching on this that I've seen in the last 20 years is the book Boundaries. And so, you know, someone can love their mother and honor their mother, but not let the mother meddle in their marriage. So it's. Sometimes it's a conversation with your own mother and saying, mom, I love you, but I really can't have you talk against my wife that way. That's just not working for, for me. That's boundaries.

[Scott Clary]

That's tough for people.

[Tim Storey]

Of course. Of course it is. So. So I think that the key is to always be fair because I'm a teacher, so I'm going to rhyme here. Fair, firm. Okay. And friendly. But people are afraid to be firm. Not me. I. I will tell you. Okay, that's beautiful, but just only come in that far.

[Scott Clary]

Boundaries are so important. Before we recorded, we were chatting about the type of content that I get pushback on.

[Tim Storey]

Oh, yeah.

[Scott Clary]

And I spoke about a few types of content about accountability and personal responsibility that gets pushed back. But another type of content that I get pushback on is that not everybody has the right to be in every part of your life. And then the first comment is, well, if, for example, if you're building a business and you're. You're doing things that your parents have never done before, but they want to give their opinion on it, or they want to. They want to say, well, are you sure you want to do this? Like, you still have to love them, but you can't let that perspective based on their lived experience.

[Tim Storey]

So good impact.

[Scott Clary]

You. And I think that people have a very hard time. It's easy to do this with somebody who burned you or scammed you or was an asshole to you. It's very hard to do this with your mother, your father, your brother, your. Your wife, your kid. Like, there's some people that. They're in that they're. They mean well, but their experience and their wisdom comes from their own lived belief, which is not going to benefit you at all. Yes. How do you. How do you mentioned sort of just go a level deeper? Because I think people have a big. A big problem with. It's very difficult for people.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

How do you manage those relationships?

[Tim Storey]

Okay, so I'm gonna go real powerful on this. I want you to really think this through. They cannot stab you on the backside. Like, if somebody stabs you in the back unless you have let them on the inside. It's the inside people that do the most damage to us. It's the person that was your partner that you thought you could trust. It's a person who is supposed to be handling your money and they mishandled your money. We see this all the time, Right. It's the man that you date and you've given four years of your life to him or the woman in a marriage or siblings. Okay. So you have to really be careful who you let in your inside, because those are the people that can cause either the most strength or the most damage. And really think this through. It. It goes all the way back to biblical days. Cain and Abel, it was jealousy. Jonathan and David, it was goodness. So they they helped each other up. Joseph and his brothers, his brothers wanted to kill him. So there was damage. So in the Bible, you see good relationships lifting someone up, the wrong toxic relationships damaging and almost destroying people. There are so many people watching right now. We're having a moment. You're watching, you're listening to us, and you are damn damaged because you let the wrong people on the inside and they stabbed you on the backside. So what do you then need to do? You need to recognize it, number one. You need to recognize it, and you need to learn to forgive yourself for letting that person or those persons in either singular or plural. And then you need to find a way to just release that person from your life, from your soul, and not try to get even, but just say, that was a life experience that hurt like hell, but I release that life experience. And that will give you the freedom to. To move on in more clarity and also in more freedom. Because I think that a lot of people are carrying a lot of weight from the wounds of the past.

[Scott Clary]

What are the traits of the high performers, but also what do high performers have the most trouble with?

[Tim Storey]

I think one of the traits of. Of the high performer is they have a revelation of something. A revelation of being a really good filmmaker, like a Martin Scorsese.

[Scott Clary]

Is this a secret sauce of that person or 100?

[Tim Storey]

It's. I think it's. I think to have a revelation of. Of something that you're going to do in life is a secret sauce to either it's Martin Scorsese or, let's say, a great designer like Ralph Lauren. If. Even if you just watch the documentary, if you've never met these people, you'll see that there was an aha moment. As Oprah says, there was a revelation. Like if. If we dug deep into you, there was a time in your life when you were in Canada and you said to yourself, dog on it. I think I'm gonna do something big in life. You may not have ever said it to anybody.

[Scott Clary]

You thought it.

[Tim Storey]

You thought it. It was a revelation. It was an aha moment. So I think that the common denominator that I see from the greatest artists to the greatest musicians to the greatest entrepreneurs, is there was a aha moment revelation where they said, this is wild. But I think. I think something big is going to happen in my life.

[Scott Clary]

But then they went after it, and.

[Tim Storey]

Then they went after it, and then they went after it. They took the steps.

[Scott Clary]

What's the thing they have the most trouble with?

[Tim Storey]

Well, the steps. The steps were quick before The. The trouble.

[Scott Clary]

Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. Go ahead.

[Tim Storey]

The steps are you have to sit and learn, so Scott had to sit and learn. And then you stand in what you learned, and then you walk in what you've been learning, and then you start to run in what you're learning. This is you and your podcast. Now you're running. That's a position of passion. And then some of us get to soar, and you're like, holy crap. How dope was that?

[Scott Clary]

That's dope. I love it. Yes, but it starts with the revelation. It starts with the revelation.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah, but you got to sit. Yeah, Revelation education. Watch. Then you stand in it, then you walk it out. That's the daily walk. That's the persistence. That's a routine. That's the discipline that both of us have. Right. And then you find yourself running with passion, and you stay in that passion because it feels good. And then life picks you up and you start to soar, but it takes you to faces, places, and spaces that you never even thought that you could get to.

[Scott Clary]

I still want to understand what they have trouble with.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

Because that's an interesting concept. And everybody asks what they're good at, but not what they're bad at. But one more thought on this idea when you have that revelation, is that when you are subconsciously saying, this is my identity, or is identity formed after you take action?

[Tim Storey]

I. I think that. I think the identity of a. Of a person, of a human being, as I work with people for all these decades, is something that is not usually like, aha, this is who I am, and this is my purpose. This is my meaning. This is what's going to make me significant. I think it's more discovered. You. You start to discover.

[Scott Clary]

I agree.

[Tim Storey]

Your identity. Okay, so. But you asked me earlier about the challenge to what we do. I call it the opposition to the mission. The opposition to the mission will always come from people that do not have a revelation. So if they don't have a revelation, they're wondering why Scott has a revelation. Like Scott, why are you guys moving from Canada to America, changing your whole.

[Scott Clary]

Life, going through all the visa process, the ridiculous cost of moving everything to all of it, switching the career, all of it.

[Tim Storey]

Yes. Like Scott, you. You. You had this plan. You're doing great in your business. You have your your this and your that, and retirement. And then you could retire at this age. And now you're stepping into the deep because that person does. Does not have revelation. So game recognizes game. That's why Snoop Dogg can be friends with Martha Stewart 100. They're from two different worlds. Snoop Dogg from Long beach, he's a rapper. And Martha Stewart's from the East Coast. Whole different type of lifestyle. But game recognizes game and that's the beauty of it all, man. I could walk into a conference sometime and just see somebody from like 15ft away and go, man, we just stare at each other. It's like I may not have ever met him. We may not even speak the same language.

[Scott Clary]

Yeah.

[Tim Storey]

But game recognizes game.

[Scott Clary]

You asked me a really good question when I was on your show and I'm going to steal this question because I think that, I think that this really highlights whatever you think is wrong with the world right now. So. Yeah, you speak to tens of thousands of people on a stage. What's your biggest stage you've ever been on?

[Tim Storey]

85, 000.

[Scott Clary]

Insane. Good job. Amazing. I haven't, I haven't done that yet.

[Tim Storey]

30, 40, 50, 60,000. A lot of times.

[Scott Clary]

Yeah. These are wild numbers.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

You've coached, worked with. I don't even know a lot of people. Over your career.

[Tim Storey]

Yes.

[Scott Clary]

What frustrates you the most? What. What pisses you off when you look at the person that you want to speak to, you want to connect with, you want to change their life, what's frustrating you about them?

[Tim Storey]

I think one of the biggest things that frustrates me is people who refuse to. To develop a gift that was given to them. So that a gift was given, but either you're too lazy or too self entitled to develop the gift. So this one really attractive person, I won't say if it's male or female, came to Beverly Hills and they asked me to connect them to an agent or a manager.

[Scott Clary]

And.

[Tim Storey]

And they knew some of the big ones that I knew. And I said, are you taking acting classes? And they said, no. I said, well, how come? Because I'm. I'm good already. Because everywhere I go, people just stare at me. And I thought, that's interesting. I said, but if I coach you and tell you that you should take acting classes so you can cultivate your craft to get better, would you do it? And they told me to my face, no, I know. I visualized I'm going to be a star and I'm going to get an Academy Award. Okay, that was a long time ago. They're not a star and they have not got an Academy Award. So they were unwilling to develop the gift. That irritates the hell out of me.

[Scott Clary]

You, you quote a lot of biblical verses.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

What does the Bible say about ego?

[Tim Storey]

I. I think that ego is necessary. And watch how powerful this is. God never tries to kill someone's ego. He wants to purify it. Interesting, because sometimes it's the ego that says, no, cancer. I'm not. I'm not dying. I got three kids. So he doesn't want to kill it, but he does want to purify it, because ego that's not purified is going to get you in a heck of a lot of trouble. And so I want you, as a younger guy than me, to have, like, strength and fortitude and faith in yourself and belief. You could tell me anything. You could tell me, like, Tim, in five years, I see myself running this empire. That's not going to scare me. Good. Go do it. That's your cause. But while you're going, just keep your ego pure. And how do you do that? You do that by staying in alignment to your creator. As you draw near to him, he draws near to you. Okay. And as you draw near to God, his characteristics. Come on, you. So I don't get off on myself. I'm sitting in your podcast studio with no shoes on.

[Scott Clary]

I know, right? I've told you to put the shoes on, but you won't do it.

[Tim Storey]

But no, right? And you, You. You. You feel my vibe?

[Scott Clary]

Yeah.

[Tim Storey]

Like, someone asked me. I did a seminar yesterday. There was really, like, a really great situation. AI people, people that do well, a lot of money, like Tim Story. Like, what's your next project? I go right now. I'm just in Arizona.

[Scott Clary]

I saw, I saw that on your.

[Tim Storey]

Stories, and I'm really not even joking. Like, I'm serious. Like, right now, like, what a privilege to be going at it with you. I'm in the moment. I'm fully present, fully feeling fully alive.

[Scott Clary]

I've brought on a couple religious leaders onto this show, and we always try and figure out. I feel like society has become much more secular. And I think that there's a lot of wisdom in religion. It doesn't matter which one you subscribe to. There's a lot of religion that I think people are losing by becoming more secular. And I get concerned that people. This is actually a Patrick Bed David line that I love. He says, if you don't have God, you replace God with another God, which could be a variety of negative influence. Besides that one particular idea, what are some. Even if you aren't religious, what are some biblical principles that you see to be absolutely valid and true that we are losing sight of because we are becoming more Secular as a society that we really cannot lose.

[Tim Storey]

So number one, I love Patrick McDavid. We've been friends, I think 25 years. I will say that I don't blame people for not being religious because I think some of the people that advertise religion, some of the leaders of religion, we see so much ego that's out of control. And I feel like a lot of religion feels like an mlm, like a multi level marketing scaling thing and less.

[Scott Clary]

Of a thing to improve your life 100%.

[Tim Storey]

So I think that there needs to be a shifting in the way a lot of religion is done where, because Jesus said, I came not to be served, like to be the man, but I, I came to serve. So I think, I think the greatest act of a human is, is servanthood. So when you look at Mother Teresa, she had a job. Her job was, she was a teacher, but she heard the cries of the orphans and she decided to listen to the cries of the orphans because they were crying because they didn't have food. It wasn't just that they didn't have a place to stay, but they were hungry. I think people in the society are so busy just trying to get what's theirs, they don't hear the cries of the hurting. So that's where I'm at with society. I think that people are so hungry to get theirs that you're not paying attention to your, your mother is crying in her soul because she's maybe aging or something's going on in her life, or your father is feeling displaced or misplaced because he retired, or you're seeing people in CVS and you just walk by them without saying hello or you're on a walk and you don't just wave your hand and maybe that person that you walk by, maybe you're the only interaction that human being will have for the whole day. And so I think that one of the things that we need to do that is a very spiritual thing and that is to listen to the cries of people who are not in a place that we might be in. Maybe you're feeling so blessed, maybe your life is so amazing, so congratulations. But there's a lot of people that are crying out for help.

[Scott Clary]

Beautifully said. Yeah, we are more connected than ever before, but we're more isolated and more self serving than ever before too.

[Tim Storey]

Yes, yes. And I think that that is spirituality of connection. Connection and not just hearing people's cries, but also celebrating with people's success. So I am that guy. You know, I'm, I'm glad that all my buddies are doing so well. And some of these guys, I mean, I thought I had great houses. Some of these guys, houses are just ridiculous how big their houses are and all the stuff they have. I have not one time ever been jealous of one of my friends for what they have. I'm really like, congratia dog on lations like you worked hard to get there.

[Scott Clary]

I don't want to make an assumption, but I feel, I feel as though, I think that it is a behavior trained by social media that we do not congratulate somebody who does better than us, but we look at them with resentment. Even though I don't even think that that success, especially if it's displayed on social media, is even true and authentic success. But I feel like we look at people that are doing better than us with resentment, and I feel like that can actually impact and impede our own success and our own happiness, which it does. Do you have an opinion on that? Why that may be the case? Why you operate so differently than many other people who would look at somebody who is rich and successful and say, well, I wish I had that. They don't deserve that they exploited somebody. Like, how do you reframe? Yeah, this is a big question. It's a very deep, heavy question.

[Tim Storey]

No, no, I can go there.

[Scott Clary]

How do you reframe your relationship with, with other people, with the world, so that you can just sort of. I don't even know how to say without sounding stupid, just like vibrate at a higher level.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah, because I don't think, I think you said that well. So I, I, I think it's, it's, it's almost like the proper diet, new nutrition that comes into one's body, that you really have to pay attention to what you are bringing into yourself. And I call it the eye gate in the ear gate. So I constantly watch what I'm watching and I watch what I listen to. So I don't just scroll, scroll, scroll because I'm getting too many images that are not going to be good for even me. And I really watch what I hear, even if somebody's gossiping about somebody or saying something very negative. So you have your, your eye gate in your ear gate. So you have to learn to guard your eye gate, what you see in your ear gate, what you listen to. Because what happens is it begins to come into you and you start to believe that and then act that, that out. But if I am reading the right things about servanthood, gratitude, right? Being authentic, walking in love, leading with love, which is my new movement called Lead with Love. If I am reading those things and hearing those things, all of a sudden I'm acting out that way.

[Scott Clary]

I think that being aware of it is the first step because yes, agree, we are the, the result of, you know, billion and trillion dollar social media mechanisms that are designed by very smart people to just get a reaction out of us all the time and to make us angry because that keeps our attention. And I think that when you realize that you are the product of social media and you are the product of news and you are the product of people that, that make money off of you hating other people, then you can start to start to heal your relationship.

[Tim Storey]

I'll give you one story as we wind down is that I came into LA airport and I saw a comedian that I had recognized and we were at baggage claim and nice looking guy, white guy, comedian. And I, I went up to him, I said, hi, my name is Tim Story and we have a mutual friend. And I named a friend and I'll never forget that. He just kind of just went like this and he goes, that's great, that's great. And then I tried to talk him a little more. I said, are you here to do a show? And he goes, yeah, yeah. So I walked away and I thought to myself, I think he's going through something because that was really odd. I think the average person who doesn't work with people would have really got ticked off and put off. Right? But I went to the other side to get my bag and just thought, I think he's going through something. So I'm not trying to bum people out at the end of the podcast, but I will say this. He took his life to. Two months later, two months later, like 60 days later, he died and is a popular comedian. He died two months later. So who knows what doggone headspace he was in. That's deep, right?

[Scott Clary]

That's deep. So you never know what someone else.

[Tim Storey]

You never know. That's why we got to lead with love. We got to lead with empathy. You, you have to do your best to look past people's false flaws and failures because you, you never know the pain that they might be in.

[Scott Clary]

Where can people connect with you? Where do you want to send them? Social. Your podcast.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah, I think, I think the best place to go. This is like Tim story.com s t o r E Y that's like all things Tim's story. The podcast is called the Miracle Mentality and I like the kind of guests that we're getting talking about mindset and talking about so many other things in life. And then I'm excited about something that we do called Lead with Love where I do these mini masterminds around the world and we bring in like 50 people at one time and I work on the eight areas of their life. But all that is Talked about in Timstory.com I love it.

[Scott Clary]

There's so many similarities between our belief system and the content we put out. And I just appreciate you for everything you do. I really appreciate for coming on. The last thing I always leave the audience with. You don't have to go deep because you've given us so much value. But just one last thought. If you could take all the wisdom that you've learned over your life, over all the people you've worked with and you tell your 20 year old self one thing, one lesson, you can think of it a couple different ways.

[Tim Storey]

Yeah.

[Scott Clary]

Unless you tell your 20 year old self one lesson that you'd only want to be remembered by. What is the most important lesson?

[Tim Storey]

What I would tell my 20 year old self is you're going to be okay. Because when you are 20, you're constantly wondering about things. So sometimes you're wondering and you're wandering and you're wondering, you're wondering. And I would say to my 20 year old self, hey little Timmy from Compton, you're going to be okay.