Hour 1: Collecting Things

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Episode: Hour 1: Collecting Things
Date: March 1, 2026
Hosts: Myron Medcalf & Matt Jones (ESPN Radio)

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Overview

The main theme of this lively episode centers around the chaotic and entertaining side of sports culture, especially as it manifests in college basketball. Matt and Myron explore recent on-court coach conflicts and wild coaching moments, dig into the cultures of college towns, debate NBA promotions (including Atlanta's "Magic City" night), discuss collecting hobbies (from action figures to coins), and interact with listeners. The tone is energetic, humorous, and irreverent, blending sports analysis with stories and banter.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Wild College Basketball Weekend & Coach Confrontations

[02:00–11:11]

• Coach Calipari vs. Todd Golden "Fight"

  • Recap of Florida routing Arkansas, highlighted by a heated face-off between John Calipari (Arkansas) and Todd Golden (Florida).
  • Matt paints a "choose your warrior" scenario: Todd Golden as young, wiry, big-mouthed; Calipari as older, surrounded by a crew that would arguably back him up in a brawl.
  • Both hosts view these flare-ups as good for the sport, revealing true personalities and extending college basketball's "respite" from sanitized professionalism.
  • Memorable Quote:
    • Matt: "It's very rare to see a mouth like that on a body that skinny." ([04:31])
    • Myron: “There’s some dudes with gaps in their resume from '05 to 2015 around Cal… you don’t need to talk about it, but just know that they’re in the stands.” ([06:13])

• Analysis of College Towns with "This and That People"

  • Discussion evolves into which college towns have factions that don’t attend games (e.g., Gainesville, Columbus, Columbia).
  • Myron: “There's a section of Gainesville that don't go to the games. ... Everyone thinks everything’s sweet in some of these places. It's not.” ([08:31])

• Miami of Ohio Coach Meltdown

  • Coach loses temper, destroys a speaker at Western Michigan.
  • Matt jokes about the speaker's "middle school theater" quality, GoFundMe for replacement.
  • Myron: “They got that at Radio Shack; you probably don’t even have a warranty on that thing anymore.” ([10:50])

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2. Towns Where People Don’t Go to the Game

[13:27–16:05]

• Listeners call/text in with suggestions (Durham, NC; Baton Rouge, LA).
• Myron and Matt have fun comparing the "campus bubble" versus the real character of the town.
• Myron: "If you're expecting Duke, just know that's not Durham." ([14:03])
• Matt ranks Durham #1 for this phenomenon; Myron judges places based on barbershops and wings.
• Caller Segment: Dwight from Durham defends his city’s cultural credentials (foodie, arts, Durham Bulls) and food recommendations.

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3. Duke Basketball and NCAA Favorites

[16:05–19:21]

• Discussion of Duke’s dominance, emergence as national title favorites.
• Analysis of stars Cooper Flagg (versatile "point forward") and Cameron Boozer (compared to his dad, but more skilled, even dubbed "Mini Jokic" by an NBA exec).
• Matt: “I know Cameron Boozer is not going to fail. … He’s too skilled.” ([18:00])
• Myron hedges on full tournament predictions, teasing his upcoming bracket content.

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4. NBA Promotions: Atlanta Hawks’ Magic City Night

[24:17–33:15]

• Promotion Details: Hawks to wear "Magic City" jerseys for a "Magic City Monday" game; T.I. to perform; Magic City’s famous lemon pepper wings served at arena.
• Matt prods Myron to explain how this works in Atlanta, why it wouldn’t fly elsewhere (e.g., Kentucky's "Deja Vu’s Day").
• Myron: “In Atlanta, because it’s literally like a part of the culture.”
• Discusses the legend of Magic City’s food, Lou Williams' infamous wing run during the NBA bubble with Jack Harlow.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • Myron: “There are a whole lot of people who are there for the magic, but there is certainly a culture attached to it...” ([29:05])
  • “Atlanta is its own thing. … Why on else would we be talking about the Hawks on national radio if they hadn’t done this? It’s genius.” ([29:39])
• Broader talk on teams using local businesses/products for promotions; minor league baseball as marketing trendsetter.
• Matt: “What is your motivation today to go to a Washington Wizards game? There’s absolutely no reason to go.”

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5. The Mid-Season NBA Malaise

[33:15–35:42]

• Matt rants about the NBA calendar: “I really am… this is the time of the year I kind of get exhausted with the NBA… We still have a month and a half of regular season—that’s ridiculous.”
• Myron defends the on-court product (mentions "Wimby" and OKC).
• Matt: “This is the moment [the NBA] should be good. And I think this is the moment when it’s the worst.” ([35:05])

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6. Collecting: Action Figures, Coins, and More

[37:31–44:54]

• Pivot to "collecting" in the workplace (inspired by producer James & Pat Costello’s Danhausen wrestling figure ritual).
• Matt teases the ESPN staff: “When did this become the office of dorks? … I collected wrestling figures when I was 13.” ([40:08])
• Discussion expands to cards, coins (Myron wants to join the coin collecting "community"), and listener calls about Hot Wheels collections.
• Myron: “I'm interested in the coin community. It's a very strong community.” ([41:59])
• Matt: “If your wife brings home a thousand Hot Wheels, she is missing Hot Wheels in her life.” ([45:12])
• Rachel suggests collecting can start from working with kids or seeing others' enthusiasm.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Coach Confrontations:

  • Matt: "Normally you have to be bigger than that to have a mouth like that." ([04:31])
  • Myron: “There's some dudes with gaps in their resume from '05 to 2015 around Cal.” ([06:13])

• On College Towns:

  • Myron: “There’s a section of Gainesville that don’t go to the games…” ([08:31])
  • Matt: “If you’re expecting Duke, just know that’s not Durham.” ([14:03])

• On Magic City Promotion:

  • Myron: “Atlanta is its own thing. … Why else would we be talking about the Hawks on national radio if they hadn’t done this?” ([29:39])

• On Collecting:

  • Myron: “I’m interested in the coin community. It’s a very strong community.” ([41:59])
  • Listener Brian: “…my wife started collecting Hot Wheels… now she has thousands of them, and she wears a Hot Wheels lanyard with a Hot Wheels keychain at work.” ([43:38])
  • Matt: “If your wife brings home a thousand Hot Wheels, she is missing Hot Wheels in her life.” ([45:12])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Coach Calipari vs. Todd Golden Near-Fight: [03:18–08:15]
• College Towns & “Sections That Don’t Go to the Game”: [08:31–16:05]
• College Basketball Contenders (Duke, Boozer, Flagg): [16:05–18:20]
• Hawks “Magic City Monday” Promotion Discussion: [25:16–33:15]
• NBA Regular Season Malaise: [33:15–35:38]
• Workplace Collecting & Hobby Chat: [37:31–44:54]

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Tone & Style

Throughout the episode, the hosts keep the conversation informal and witty, poking fun at each other, listeners, and sports culture at large. Their style blends sports insight with jokes, local references, and playful jabs, making even niche topics (like coin collecting or Hot Wheels fandom) engaging for a general audience.

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Transcript

[Myron Metcalf]

5:00am I'm up with a crisp Celsius energy drink running 12 miles today.

[Matt Jones]

Grab a green juice, quick change and head to work. Meetings, workshops.

[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Jones]

It is Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio present by the Progressive Insurance ESPN app. Matt Jones back after a week away with my Metcalf.

[Myron Metcalf]

I.

[Matt Jones]

Have we been together since the Super Bowl? I guess we have. But we are back again today and in two weeks we will be myself in Myron in Bristol announcing the brackets for you. All the fans looking forward to seeing my once a year get to see Myron in person. And it's good to see Myron after last week. You were on the air as the US Won the gold medal last.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, we did a whole hockey show, David Dennis Jr. And I, which was a first across all networks.

[Matt Jones]

I was about to say, when I think hockey, I think Myron Metcalf And David Dennis Jr.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think everybody was both surprised and maybe a little concerned in there that we were gonna maybe say something. But no, it was, it was an incredible moment that, you know, that no one's seen probably if you're under the age of what, 45. So pretty cool.

[Matt Jones]

What, you and David working together or the gold medal to gold? Well, both.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, the gold medal and to be the connect to be the Canadian team that was obviously favored. And that was a big moment, right?

[Matt Jones]

Well, it was. And sorry I couldn't be here, but I am here today. And we're presented by Progressive Insurance. Drivers who switch to Progressive could save Big quote [e-mail]. what are we thinking about? I'm trying to think, but nothing happens. Time to find out. This is off the top Flash off the top rope with Matt and Myron. Well, as I said, we are two weeks away from selection Sunday. Thank goodness this rock music is blasting because it is time for Matt Myron and two weeks from now, we will get our brackets. But Myron, until then, there's still some good college basketball regular season and we had a big day yesterday. Here's what stuck out to me more than anything else about the games. You know, in a world of professionalism and in a world of like, corporate interest, college basketball is still a respite where you can get people acting like fools, specifically coaches. And we had some great examples of that. This weekend. Let's start with the big one. Last night in the main game on ESPN, Arkansas and Florida. Florida wins by almost 40 points. But in the big moment, John Calipari, the legend of college basketball, taking three different programs to the final four, seemed to nearly get in a fight with defending national championship coach Todd Golden. And at one point they were in each other's face going, would you say, what are you doing with coaches holding each other back? What'd you think of the near fight?

[Rich Eisen]

Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

Last night, I mean, I thought it was good for the sport in terms of just everybody telling you where they stand. I appreciate when coaches come out and let you know they don't really like each other. Right. And I think Todd golden more than any other coach in college basketball, he's embraced kind of the villain role, if you will.

[Matt Jones]

Danny Hurley, he and Danny Hurley.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I mean, Todd golden was trash talking Alabama about the Charles Beniako situation. Like he, he, he's not afraid to tell you how he feels. And Cal was that way too. So it's almost like Cal was seeing a version of himself. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Can I break down this fight for you? This is a good, this is nice for people out there to figure out who you need to choose your warrior. Okay. On one side you have 38 year old Todd Gold, skinny as a toothpick. Okay. Literally, he is so little. I think I could fit my hand around his bicep. He's a little tiny skinny guy.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay. All right. That's okay.

[Matt Jones]

He's. What do you mean?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, you can just say like he's thin. I mean, you're.

[Matt Jones]

Why can't I say I could put my hand around his body?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, I don't, I just don't know where you're going from here. Like he's thin. Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. So he's little. He's wiry as the kids.

[Myron Metcalf]

Wiry. That's okay.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, wiry. He also big mouth though. Very rare to see a mouth like that on a body that skinny. Normally you have to be bigger than that to have a mouth like that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

On the other side. 73, 72 year old John Caliper.

[Myron Metcalf]

70, is he 72? Is he 72?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. How old is he?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't think Cal is 72. I think you added eight or nine

[Matt Jones]

years to Cal is 70, isn't he? I don't think you may think of him as that, as spry, but he's 67.

[Myron Metcalf]

Close enough.

[Matt Jones]

So 71 years. 67 year old.

[Myron Metcalf]

You did it again, you just added four years to his.

[Matt Jones]

You get a four year curve. Okay, so 67 year old John Calperi. Now, at one point, you're right, John Calipari was a little bit like Todd Golden. Wiry, young, big mouth. He's gotten bigger. You know, that's what happens when you get older. A little grayer, but he was in the streets when he was a kid. He always talks about how he had a rough and tumble, you know, his grandson of a coal miner, you know, the whole thing. So if they fought each other, who you taking?

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm taking Cal because he's going to have reinforcements. Like, I don't think Cal's gonna one on one you. I think there's gonna be three dudes who come out of the stands that you weren't expecting to fight.

[Matt Jones]

That's true.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's not gonna be one on one. It wasn't one on one yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, Caliperi, Caliperi has like a couple of groups of people who roll for him, right? He's got the Italians and, and then he's got the whole World Wide west crew. So there's gonna be a lot of people showing up at your house.

[Myron Metcalf]

There's some dudes with gaps in their resume from 05 to 2015 around Cal. You can't ask them where they were. You don't need to talk about it, but just know that they're in the stands.

[Matt Jones]

There's some gaffes in their wrist.

[Myron Metcalf]

They're in the stands. So you're not fighting Cal one on one. That's not happening.

[Matt Jones]

Cal's got people, they ask, what were you doing those years? And they go, this and that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's a bunch of this and that dudes who are going to come out of section 222, row three. And you don't want that problem with Kat.

[Matt Jones]

Now, Todd Golden, I want you to, if you get a chance, everybody at home, I want you to look at the video of the confrontation because Todd golden has a great moment. And as I wanted to appreciate this, Myron, as somebody who has been a mouth runner over his life with. What is it? Your mouth writes a check that your tail can't cash. Can't cash.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

I'm one of those people, okay. And I recognized a move in Todd golden yesterday that people like that do, okay? If you go back and look when he's yelling, he is barking at Cal and barking at the refs. But then at some point Cal turns around and is like, wait a minute. And he Starts walking towards him. And at that moment, Todd golden takes this man next to him who's like 6 7, 2, 7, and he grabs him by shirt and pulls him in front of him. Okay. He does one of these like, hold me back, hold me back. Please hold me back. Stand right in front of me. He has one of the great, like, please don't leave me alone, sir moments. It's wonderful. Yeah, yeah. He.

[Myron Metcalf]

He kind of. When Cal got real, then it was a little bit like, I let's. That's just. Everybody calm down. But, but, but I assure you, he also is the head coach of Florida, so there would be this and that dudes on both sides in that situation. What I appreciate about Cal, though, is Cal had his whole staff do the get back thing with him, which makes it unpredictable. Like you don't know if Cal's gonna run up there and throw a punch. You don't know if he wants no smoke. You don't know. But the scene made it look like you gotta hold Cal back.

[Matt Jones]

You gotta hold real back. Whereas golden is bringing people in front of him, people are holding Cal back. So you're telling me that both Caliperi's Italian and World Wide west group, and people in Gainesville in general are all this and that people.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, you've been to Gainesville. There's a section of Gainesville that don't go to the games. And I don't know if y' all been down there, but you all need to understand, I'm telling you, that's what you learn from traveling. Everybody thinks everything's sweet in some of these places. It's not. That man won a national championship, so that's a good. They would defend him.

[Matt Jones]

That's a good question. To. To finish the segment with towns that have a section that don't go to

[Myron Metcalf]

the game, but it's a couple of. It's a bunch of them out there. Gainesville is definitely one of them.

[Matt Jones]

Gainesville, a lot of SEC towns. Columbus, Columbia, South Carolina, bunch of them. Some parts of Columbia, South Carolina that don't go to the game.

[Myron Metcalf]

Just. You just gotta be. He's gotta be careful. But neither one of them really wanted to fight. But I think in that, I mean, it felt like Todd golden won because he got California. And I think that was the goal, you know?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. All right. Now you also had the game. Did you see the game Friday night? Miami of Ohio, who is undefeated, was playing at Western Michigan in a game that most people would normally not pay attention to, but they got down, they were down 10 with just seven minutes to go, but came back and won. But before they came back to win, their coach had a halftime meltdown for the ages. Yeah, he was throwing stuff, he was yelling. He was being held back. And then on the way off the court, he took poor Western Michigan speaker system. They had this lone speaker in the corner that they used to play music in, which was really sad. It looked like a middle school theater production. And my man kicked the speaker down. Just completely kicked the speaker down. And then my favorite part, when it was over, he was asked about his technical, and he goes, I don't know. I feel like they overreacted. I didn't really do anything. And he was dead serious.

[Myron Metcalf]

He was. They got to hold a whole GoFundMe to replace that speaker, man, it's gonna take two months to get that speaker replaced. I think if you're Travis Steele, I kind of get his emotions. Everyone said if they lose one game, they're out of the tournament, which is wild to think about, but come on, man, spare the speaker.

[Matt Jones]

Western Michigan paid a good $145 for their speaker system.

[Myron Metcalf]

They got that at Radio Shack. You probably don't even have a warranty on that thing anymore. The place you got it from is probably close.

[Matt Jones]

You know how hard it is to find chords that fit in those things and you just kicked it over.

[Myron Metcalf]

There goes the whole music system for the rest of the year, man, I'm

[Matt Jones]

gonna call somebody who does this and that and come and break your system. It is Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. That's your college basketball rundown from yesterday,

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myron. The podcast.

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[Matt Jones]

It is Matt myron here on ESPN radio. People are writing in. 888 say ESPN. 888 say ESPN. With towns in America that have parts that don't go to the game. Yeah, feel free. By the way, say espn. We got a good one. We said Gainesville's apart. A town that's got parts that don't go to the game. Durham, North Carolina.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes. Maybe number one on the list. Maybe number one.

[Matt Jones]

You think Durham's number one? I went to school in Durham.

[Myron Metcalf]

Tell you something, you better stay on Duke's campus.

[Matt Jones]

No, I lived out there and I

[Myron Metcalf]

love, and I love Durham. I got my haircut at this great place in Durham. But like, if you're expecting Duke, just know that that's not Durham.

[Matt Jones]

When you say hang on, your way of loving a place is that you got your hair cut there. Is that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, I judge places by barbershop. Man, that was a great barbershop. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Is that how you define a town is by their. By their barbershops, Wings and barbershops.

[Myron Metcalf]

There was a great wing spot next to the barbershop. Got my haircut, I got some wings.

[Matt Jones]

But I'm gonna guess if you got your haircut and got wings, that was in a part of the town that doesn't go to the game.

[Myron Metcalf]

They might not even know the games are on.

[Matt Jones]

It's a different.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's a different. But here's the thing. When you go to these college towns, it's always fascinating when you see sometimes the campus versus the rest of the city. I think Durham is probably the number one place.

[Matt Jones]

Durham is so different from the 888, say ESPN. If anyone has any other towns that are. That maybe don't go to the game, I also have a vote for Baton Rouge. Do you agree with that?

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh yeah. Bat Rouge might not be allowed to go to the games. That's a different. Bat Rouge might have a whole nother situation. That is. That's a real good one. Baton Rouge is a great one. I love Baton Rouge. I love.

[Matt Jones]

Listen, I've had a lot of fun. I don't really like Gainesville, but I've had a lot of fun in Durham and Baton Rouge.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, Baton Rouge was a fun time. Oh, that's a fun time.

[Matt Jones]

But. But that's exactly right. 888 say ESPN if you have parts of town where they don't go the James to the game. James is sitting by, ready to take your call. Duke, by the way, speaking of the school in Durham is a win away from catch clinching the ACC. They pounded number 11 Virginia yesterday. They are dominant. I would say right now they're playing better than anybody in the country. Are you, are you in college? Basketball is better when Duke is good. Gives people someone to hate. Are you in on this Duke team as potentially winning the title that last year's team couldn't do?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean remember last year's team just kind of have some breakdowns against Houston down the stretch because who knows what happens if they get a chance at Florida. Um, and I think Cooper Flag obviously is one of the best young college players we've seen at this level in a long time. And Cameron Boozer might be better, not, not a better highlight reel. But a dude who just is such a complete player does all the right things. I think his supporting gas is better than what Duke had last year. They're deeper and they're more experienced. So I think Duke to me I'd make them the favorites to win it all right now.

[Matt Jones]

Do you. How do you compare. People keep obviously wanting to compare Cameron Boozer to Cooper Flag. How do you. How do you compare those two?

[Myron Metcalf]

They're completely different players. Right. Like Cooper Flag was almost like a point guard trapped in a power forwards body a little bit. Boozer's a true forward who's just a great passer, shooter, playmaker. I just think Cooper did a lot of things with his explosiveness that you really couldn't teach or stop. And I think Boozer does a lot of things with just his size and strength and skill set.

[Matt Jones]

I don't realize I Think people think of Cooper or, excuse me, Cameron Boozer is this, like, crazy athlete. I sort of tell them, think about, like, a more skilled version of his dad. Like, I think he's much more skilled than his dad. But, you know, Carlos Boozer wasn't like a crazy, amazing dunk on you athlete. And Cameron Boozer really isn't either.

[Myron Metcalf]

You know what an NBA exec told me this week? He called him Mini Jokic because that's kind of his style. I think it's interesting. It's like, we don't talk about Cam Boozer. We talk about aj, the Bonds, to Darren Peterson, Darris Akob. If Cameron Boozer were from France, were from another country, I think people would have a different appreciation for. For the way that he plays because it's a very Euro style.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, I agree. I'm a big Cameron Boozer guy. I mean, I understand why people say you have to take the bouncer or Darren Peterson first, but to me, I know Cameron Boozer is not going to fail. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. His upside may not be as high, but I know he's not going to fail. He's too skilled.

[Myron Metcalf]

He'll play 15 years at a very high level if he stays healthy and he'll be able to come in, like, right away. Like, day one, you could put Cameron Boozer in the starting rotation on whatever team picks him. He'll be good.

[Matt Jones]

Are they going to be in the national championship? Duke?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, stay tuned for my picks in the coming weeks on ESPN.com and I will stay tuned. Yeah, I mean, I want to just

[Matt Jones]

give it away and it's open to change. Like, why?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't want to give it away. I literally do content.

[Matt Jones]

What do you think you are? Who shot Junior in Dallas? No one's going to stay tuned for two weeks.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm a senior writer of college basketball. This is our Super Bowl. People can wait and read it themselves. That's the whole point. So give everybody the whole album.

[Matt Jones]

You think the NFL guys on ESPN don't say who's going to win the super bowl when the playoffs start?

[Myron Metcalf]

If they do, that's on them. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what they do. I know what I do. We got a lot of content coming on ESPN.com that everybody should stay tuned.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. We don't want to make sure. Do not turn your radio off in case Myron Metcalf tells you who's going to win the title. Let's go to Dwight. Dwight, go ahead.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

Yeah, I'm a Durham resident. Also a Duke and North Carolina Central University fan.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

Just want to make sure you knew that Durham is the number one spot in the number one state for recruiting business. That's the first thing. Second thing is known as the foodie and cultural town, as the largest cultural venue and it's also home of the Durham Bulls, which are Triple A and have won the championship several times.

[Myron Metcalf]

Dwight, what's the name of that wing spot I went to?

[Matt Jones]

Dwight, let me. I'm with you, Dwight. Myron was disparaging the town that I lived in for three years. I lived in Durham. Actually, I lived there for four years in Durham. I love the city of Durham. I'll go ahead and tell you. Durham Bulls game. I mean, they made a movie out of it. He's exactly right about the restaurant.

[Myron Metcalf]

So I think.

[Matt Jones]

Dwight, don't you agree Myron should apologize

[Myron Metcalf]

to you about I love Durham now, Dwight, I love Durham. My point is, don't confuse the campus tour with the city tour. Is that fair? DWight, those are two different things.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

After that, we'll go with that. Okay, if he be accurate and factual. But we got more than wing spots when we're one of the number one foodie towns.

[Matt Jones]

That's right.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

In the United States.

[Myron Metcalf]

I know, but what's that good wing spot I went to down the hill from Duke, next to the barbershop. You know I'm talking about.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

What barbershop did you go?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't. I don't remember. I don't remember. But it was a good haircut and there was a wing spot next to it.

[Matt Jones]

Sir, listen, I do what I can to take up for the city of Durham. Is George's garage still there?

[Myron Metcalf]

Look at this.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

Yes, George's garage is still there. Right near Panera bread and alpaca.

[Matt Jones]

They've got a Panera bread. Myron. See, I showed him the name of the garage.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm trying.

[Matt Jones]

I love George's garage. I was there. Thank you, Dwight. Thank you very much. I will. I'm sorry. You can't take Myron anymore.

[Myron Metcalf]

You're like a country music star that's toured America. Like, you're always like, what's the name of that bridge next to that pawn shop that everybody drives? Like, you know a lot of those places. I don't know the names.

[Matt Jones]

What have I learned in doing this show over the years? This was. I was talking to one of the other hosts on espn. I won't say who. And I said the best thing you can do, know one thing to say about any town in America. Just one. All you got to do is say one thing because then people will go. I said George's Garage. He immediately knew. I knew more than you because you said a wing spot.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm sorry he didn't go to my barbershop. He's missing out. I apologize, Dwight.

[Matt Jones]

The Hawks have a big promotion planned for a game this week and Myron said it's the one thing that would make him go to a Hawks game in the last 25 years. We will tell you what it is next here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myron the Podcast.

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[Matt Jones]

Myron here on ESPN Radio T Pain. I saw him perform at the Super Bowl.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, Was he good?

[Matt Jones]

No. 8, 5, 9, 8, 8, 8.

[Myron Metcalf]

Say, what does he mean he wasn't good? He's T. Pain.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, how could he be bad? When's the last time you seen T Pain perform?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't think I've ever seen T Pain perform.

[Matt Jones]

Well, just keep in your mind what you think it would be. Okay.

[Rich Eisen]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

And let that. Don't. I won't want to sully that for you. I saw Ludacris performed at the same event, the Super Bowl. 40 minutes of his hour performance was him talking to me, and I was like, man. Yeah. And he. He would only sing the hooks of his songs.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But, like, you think about it, like, he would just. In some ways, it was like a best of. He would just go, chorus. Chorus. Like, no. And there was no B tracks. It was just chorus talk for three minutes. Chorus, you know?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. But, I mean, you know, 40 Nova black man. Once we get that. Get to that point, we got a lot of stories we feel like we haven't told. So that's half our life is just. Let me tell you this story.

[Matt Jones]

You know, last night in the NBA, the Lakers won on the road with the Warriors. As we start moving towards the playoffs, Reed Shepherd. Hot is. Is getting hot for the Rockets, but they lost to the Heat. But the big story in the NBA this week are not individual games. It is something that I need Myron to sort of translate, like, for me. Well, I. Because I. I grew up in Kentucky. Yeah. And I know that in Atlanta, they have an establishment that is called Magic City.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

That, as I understand, is a. Is a dance strip club in. In Atlanta. Do I understand that? So am I correct?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes, that's.

[Matt Jones]

That's. And I also understand that. I believe that it's. It has supposedly amazing chicken wings. Is that also right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so the Atlanta Hawks announced that they are going to have, quote, magic city, Monday, March 16, against the magic. The. The Hawks are going to wear uniforms that say Magic City, that are. That are a little bit different colors than their normal uniforms, and they will be honoring the iconic Atlantic strip club Magic City. TI Will perform, and they will. And they will have wings available at the game along with merchandise. Now, you were saying to me, you think this is, like, this is the best promotion that you can remember a team doing.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I've never. I mean, it's incredible. Like, it's incredible because, A, the Hawks are trying to get people into the building, you know, B, it's the sign of how well they know their community and how well, they know their fan base nationally. There were a whole lot of people saying, well, wait a minute. You can't do something attached to a dance club like that. But guess what? In Atlanta, you can. Like, Atlanta is its own thing.

[Matt Jones]

So explain to me. That's the part I need to understand.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

I'm in Kentucky, and if they tried to do, you know, Deja Vu versus Mississippi State at a UK basketball game, it was Deja. Deja Vu's Day.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, that's actually not a bad name. That's not a terrible. That's not a terrible name.

[Matt Jones]

Actually, James. That was a pretty good name.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's a pretty good name.

[Matt Jones]

Deja Vu's Day for Kentucky versus Mississippi State. That would. They would be met with outrage, and people would say, how could you do that? Why is Magic City different in Atlanta?

[Myron Metcalf]

Let me just say, it'd be met with outrage by people who go there. But I think in Atlanta, because it's literally like a part of the culture

[Matt Jones]

you like, people literally go, how is that possible? Because, like, people. Because I would assume most people in Atlanta have never been right.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, a lot of people I know have. I think. I think there is literally a culture in Atlanta where people will go to Magic City just to get food. I think that's what people miss.

[Matt Jones]

Is that true, though?

[Myron Metcalf]

That is a real thing.

[Matt Jones]

And I thought that was just.

[Myron Metcalf]

That is a 100 Patrick Beverly that

[Matt Jones]

snuck out of the bubble.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, it was Lou Williams with your guy Jack Harlow, if you remember.

[Matt Jones]

Lou Williams. Lou Williams out of the bubble.

[Myron Metcalf]

But he didn't go there. He was actually. The people confused the story. He was out of the bubble for, I believe, a funeral. Jack Harlow happens to be there. He goes and picks up food. Harlow's like, hey, man, come take a picture. He was there just for the food, and then he was gonna leave, and that turned into a thing. So that's the hard part. People can't get.

[Matt Jones]

I feel like. I feel like when people say to me that they go there for the food, it's like when I was a kid and people read it for the articles, right. I feel like is that it's not the same thing.

[Myron Metcalf]

I want to be clear. There are a whole lot of people who are there for the magic, but there is certainly a culture attached to it as, you know, a cultural, food, fun kind of institution. And that's why the Hawks knew they could do this no matter what anybody else in America says. And I've been watching Twitter with all these Atlanta people I know who are basically telling people who aren't from Atlanta to be quiet. Right. Because Atlanta is its own thing. Look at this. We're talking about the Atlanta Hawks, Matt. Like, why on else will we be talking about the Atlanta Hawks on national radio right now in. If they hadn't done this? I think it's genius because they understood their fan base.

[Matt Jones]

So you. It's all about understanding your city 100%

[Myron Metcalf]

and what makes the way.

[Matt Jones]

What makes the wing so good. Because apparently I hear about these wings forever. Is it. Is it lemon pepper spike spicy or what is it? What's the flavor?

[Myron Metcalf]

The lemon pepper wings are what they're known for.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. That's what Lou Williams broke out.

[Myron Metcalf]

So Lou Williams and Jack Harlow got him in trouble by taking a photo and posting it. And then Harlow lied and said it was from another situation, which didn't help. But, yeah, the lemon pepper wings, they're known for. Again, it's more of a cultural institution in Atlanta than anything else. And that's why Atlanta and the Hawks knew that they could pull this off. I mean, T.I. rapping Atlanta is one of those places that has its own culture. And more than anything, if you know Atlanta people, they don't care what any of us think about this. They're going to have a lot of fun on that night.

[Matt Jones]

Well, all right. So have you talking about promotions.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You feel like this is the. The perfect one for Atlanta.

[Myron Metcalf]

Genius.

[Matt Jones]

Have ones that you think you should do for other cities. That would be the equivalent. It's just hard for me to picture any other team having any other local something that would. Would be like that. Forget about dance, forget about a strip club. Just anything that you would take a private business and it would be so associated with the city that you would put it on the jersey. It's just. That's hard for me to fathom.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, because there's no place like Atlanta and there's no place like the connection to a place like Magic City. So it'd be hard. I do think more cities should do things that align with their communities, though, in terms of promotions.

[Matt Jones]

So you like. You like special uniform things. Some people think that's a bad idea. You like it?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I mean, again, like, have fun. Especially if you're not a team that's like contending for a championship and there's not a whole lot on the line. Why not have fun? I love minor league baseball because I think they are the greatest marketers in the world. Like, if you go to a minor league baseball game and you see the work that they put into promoting the product. More professional teams need that. And here's the reality, Matt. As viewing habits change, as attendance changes, you're going to have to come up with ways to get people in the building.

[Matt Jones]

And I think if you're one of these NBA teams that is making it your mission, especially this year, to tank, it probably makes even more sense to do it. Because what is your. What is your motivation today to go to a Utah Jazz game? Right. What is your motivation today to go to a Washington Wizards game? There's absolutely no reason to go. So I can understand why you would want to. To try to do this now. Do you think the wings will travel? I own a sports bar.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

One thing we've learned is it's hard to deliver wings to people. Wings do not travel well. Do. Do you think the wings will travel and be good inside the Atlanta Arena?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, they'll. They'll figure it out. I think they'll. They'll figure it out. And they're also going to figure out a bunch of people who are going to say, you know what, I want to get some more of those wings. Honey, let me go down to Magic City and I'll pick some up. Don't you worry about it. I'll take care of it. I'll be back in a couple hours. So. But it's a cool. It's. It's again, TI Atlanta has its own identity, and I think this is what more teams have to do. If you're not in the NFL, Matt, you have to come up with ways to market your product.

[Matt Jones]

I agree with that. Are you. Are you like me that you're at the point in the regular season with the NBA where you're just like, just in the. Please. And just go to the playoffs? I really am. I think the NBA is like 20 games too long. I honestly think they'll never do this, but I think it should be like a 65 game season. It's too long this point every year when this should be when the NBA takes off. And to me, this is the time of the year I kind of get exhausted with the NBA and I'm like, we still have a month and a half of regular season. That's ridiculous.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, I don't. I think there's been talk about maybe shortening the season potentially. I think the challenge is the NFL keeps getting bigger and it just covers up everything in the path.

[Matt Jones]

But I think the problem is as. Because they start the season so early. All right. I think now should be when you go NBA. Here we go. And I think this is exactly where it putters out. This is where the stars all take time off, usually because they're hurt. And this is where college basketball is entering its playoff stage. And I actually think that the NBA product, to me, this is the time of year right now where every year it is the worst product. A third of the teams are tanking right now. Okay. Another half are kind of getting in playoff mode. And so really there's only a handful of teams that are playing for something that really matters at this point.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I think the product's good. I mean, you got Wimby doing things you've never seen before. When OKC gets healthy, they're gonna be great.

[Matt Jones]

You think the product's good right now in February?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think it's. Right now the challenge is the. The NBA, like college basketball, like every other sport, has a hard time showing people the product before now because the NFL is so big.

[Matt Jones]

But. But I. I think you're missing my point. This is the moment it should be good. And I think this is the moment when it's the worst.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think it's really good. I don't think it's the product. I think the product's good. I think people just haven't watched a lot of NBA basketball.

[Matt Jones]

I tell you, I. If you sit there and you look at every night and you go, okay, Raptors, Wizard. Should I watch? No. Pelicans, Jazz? Should I watch? No. You know, Trailblazers, Hornet. Should I watch? Probably not. Like there's just. But if it was before or after this, people care. I just think this is the time of the year that there is a malaise around the NBA.

[Myron Metcalf]

When did people watch the Wizards? In your lifetime. What are you talking about?

[Matt Jones]

I had season tickets. Was.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, tell.

[Rich Eisen]

Two years.

[Matt Jones]

Two years I had season.

[Myron Metcalf]

Did they give them to you?

[Matt Jones]

Because I bought them. I bought season tickets to the Wizards. It's a two year season ticket holder for the Wizards.

[Myron Metcalf]

You love Misery.

[Matt Jones]

I do. There is all across college basketball. We get ready for the tournament, but there's also NFL combine and the hockey world has taken a big jump up. We'll deal with all that. That's next year on Matt Myron, Matt

[Myron Metcalf]

and Myron the podcast.

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[Matt Jones]

Myron's been very upset this morning. Not. Not yet on air about. You watched WWE Elimination Chamber on ESPN plus, you really hated. They debuted a guy named Dan Housen. And he wasn't the hero that you. That you wanted. Right.

[Myron Metcalf]

It was the worst thing I saw in the show. It was a great show. I loved Elimination Chamber. And then they brought out this dude, like he was in some weird music video or something.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah, he's Danhausen.

[Matt Jones]

I don't.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know how to say his name. And very. I don't think he came out of the casket in a crate. Yeah, it just doesn't. Sometimes you can do too much and you can overthink things. And on a great show, I think they. They were overthinking whatever they did with Dan Heezen. What's his name? Danhausen. What's his name? Dan House. Whatever they did with Dan House, Rachel,

[Matt Jones]

you didn't like it either.

[Rachel]

I didn't. I tell you guys in the break. The only thing I know about him is literally the fact that James and Pat Costello have, like, an action figure of him. You have an action figure.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. Hang on.

[Myron Metcalf]

You have.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. Hang on. Just a second. James, how old are you?

[Myron Metcalf]

42.

[Matt Jones]

You're 42 years old and you have a Danhausen action fight figure.

[Myron Metcalf]

I collect that.

[Rachel]

It gets better. It gets better. They. They put it on each other's desk. And I. I've done this too, so I can't, like, judge them for it, but they. It points at things and they write, you're cursed.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's why you're so into Dan House. I don't. I don't mind the action figure.

[Matt Jones]

Hang on.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm A fan for sure.

[Matt Jones]

I have. I have assumed since I started working at ESPN that ESPN has the most professional, best of the best employees. And I'm sure the people listening at home are thinking.

[Myron Metcalf]

In radio?

[Matt Jones]

No, in everything. They're thinking, this is espn. This is the worldwide sports leader. We have experts in our. In our midst. And you're telling me. Pat Costello, who is the producer for the morning show, and James, you all and Rachel, you all just put an action finger pointing on people's desk that says I'm cursed.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's his thing.

[Matt Jones]

He curses people.

[Rachel]

I learned it from them.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, yeah. But in a funny way, though, when did you.

[Matt Jones]

When did this become the office of dorks? This is not dungeon. I mean that.

[Rachel]

We went through a whole like six month period where we were just finding like little rubber ducks around the department. So nothing. Nothing goes fast.

[Myron Metcalf]

What about. What about collecting action figures? Nothing wrong with it. Yeah, I don't mind those. I mean, I don't mind that at all.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, to do what you want. I mean, you're 40. I mean, I collected wrestling figures when I was 13.

[Myron Metcalf]

I get it. I collect. I got baseball cards. I got like, I just dropped significantly stuff. It was also coming from a wizard season ticket.

[Matt Jones]

No, I. Listen, I'm a dork, too. I just did not expect you to have an emotional attachment to a Danhausen action.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I don't have an emotional attack. It's fun. It's funny, it's fun. Are you against baseball card collections?

[Matt Jones]

I'm not against any of this. I just, it's. I. I might. Listen, I own a wrestling company, okay? I'm not trying to be better than anyone. I'm just trying to say, like, do

[Rachel]

they have any action figures? Can we suggest you buy them?

[Matt Jones]

There's a mix. Mr. Pectacular. One store.

[Myron Metcalf]

There is.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't know that. Can you send me a link?

[Rachel]

Get added to the collection?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes, Maybe. Dan House. I've been trying to get into coins. You know, I saw this thing on pbs.

[Matt Jones]

Why do you collect coins? That's like grandpa's.

[Rachel]

That's like. I saw a guy.

[Rich Eisen]

No, I saw.

[Myron Metcalf]

I saw the Antiques Roadshow. I saw a dude on. He had a coin collection and it turned out to be worth a lot. So I'm trying to see if I can find some coins.

[Matt Jones]

You know what's an interesting thing? I was in New York recently and I was walking down the street and I saw a store that sold antique coins. And I literally thought to myself, who is this man's audience? Like, who is. Who. Who are his. Call me next time you collect coins.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm trying to get into it. Yeah. I'm trying to get in the coin. Why this guy was on a antique roadshow. Like, I love Antique Roadshow. One of my favorite shows because, like, people be like, hey, I found this in the attic, and it's worth $30,000. So I don't know necessarily the ins and outs, but I'm interested into the. In the coin community. It's. It's a very strong community.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. You're interested in the coin community?

[Myron Metcalf]

Very strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, just because, like, I want to go to, like, the shows, like, this summer.

[Matt Jones]

You're telling me you. You don't own any coins, but you want.

[Myron Metcalf]

Not that I would present at the coin show, but I want to get involved. I want to get involved.

[Matt Jones]

All right. 888, say ESPN. If you are a member of the coin collecting community, Byron would like to get involved.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And he. If you would like to help him figure out how to get involved, Myron Metcalf would like to do that. Brian is in North Carolina. Brian, go ahead.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

Hey, what's up, guys? Just to touch on a few different things going back to Durham. Now, there's Duke in Durham, but it's surrounded by woods and nothing. So there's Duke in Durham, and then there's Durham.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

Conversation before that is Magic City. Yeah, man. Nobody goes to Magic City for wings.

[Matt Jones]

I agree.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

I mean, there's some good food, places that have some entertainment, but, you know,

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know how to say this.

[Matt Jones]

I know what's coming out. I know what's coming out. I know what he's gonna say.

[Myron Metcalf]

Are we in similar communities? I don't know if I'm. I don't know how to say this. Are we in different communities? Yeah, exactly. So, okay.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we weren't on the same group

[Myron Metcalf]

chat about Magic City.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

So you guys are talking about is the toys and the office.

[Myron Metcalf]

Man.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

A few years ago, my wife started collecting.

[Myron Metcalf]

Are you doing a show? Is he doing a show? Is this his show? This man called in with four different takes.

[Matt Jones]

That's all right. That's all right. Brian, finish what you're saying about your collecting real quick. Your wife.

[Caller Dwight/Brian]

Yeah, my wife started collecting Hot Wheels a few years ago. Now she has thousands of them, and she wears a Hot Wheels lanyard with a Hot Wheels keychain at work. So there is no.

[Matt Jones]

You're still good. You're still with her. Everything good.

[Myron Metcalf]

Y' all good. There's another roll of collective stuff. What are you guys doing?

[Matt Jones]

I'm not trying to judge people.

[Rachel]

I didn't know. I didn't know. No, no. I didn't know if that was a legitimate question. So I didn't caught it back up. I'm sure everything is fine in their marriage. I need that to do.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm not questioning it. I was just, I was asking questions and I don't think he's the. Again, the Magic City thing.

[Matt Jones]

I don't want to punish our. Here's my thing. I don't want to punish our listeners for calling. So, like, I'm on your side, sir, because you seem like a nice fellow.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm not punish anybody. But we all know what you really think though. You've made it.

[Matt Jones]

But I'm just saying, like, if your wife, if you've been married to a woman for many years, I'm just going to use me. I don't want to. I don't want to use him. If I've been married to a woman for many years. And all of a sudden she comes up to me and she goes, I'd like to start collecting Hot Wheels. And I'd go, okay, honey, I support you, whatever you want. And she comes home with thousands of Hot Wheels.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And a Hot Wheels lanyard.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

What if she's like a teacher and her kids were into them so then she started to learn about them and was collecting them and then it just kind of became a thing.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think you collect whatever you want.

[Matt Jones]

Still.

[Myron Metcalf]

I also feel like you're just describing me from a couple years ago. You collect whatever you want to collect.

[Matt Jones]

And I feel like when your wife brings home thousand Hot Wheels, she is missing Hot Wheels in her life.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, no, we can't do that, man.

[Matt Jones]

You just asked honest opinion.

[Myron Metcalf]

We can't do that.

[Matt Jones]

Tune in for NBA action today.

[Myron Metcalf]

Marriage is okay.

[Matt Jones]

I don't want to host the Timberwolves. Presented by Indeed. Coverage begins at 3 soon on ESPN radio.

[Myron Metcalf]

Thanks for listening to matt and myron the podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10:00am eastern on espn radio, the espn app, and on siriusxm channel 80. Matt and myron the podcast.

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