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this is Matt and Myron, the podcast. That's one of my three or four top favorite segments we've ever done here. I'm Matt Myron on ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance, Matt Jones, Meyer and Metcalf. We are here getting ready for what is actually our final Sunday morning show. That's right. We've been doing this show for eight years. Started in early September 2018. We are the longest running show on ESPN with the same host in the same time slot on ESPN Radio. But this will be the last one on Sunday morning as we're moving to daily Monday through Friday from 3 to 5pm, which is obviously very exciting for us. But today will be a little nostalgic because this time slot, every Sunday morning I've woken up and got come into my room here with the desk and said get to see Myron and talk about whatever happened on Saturday. Admiring Today is the last day of that. Are you feeling excited, melancholy? What are you?
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I think a little bit of both. You know, I think mostly I feel grateful, you know, like the listeners of this show. That's how we ended up doing a daily show. So I'm just more grateful than anything that the show caught on and we have all these loyal listeners who always, you know, reach out to us. And so I'm excited about what's ahead. But also I love my Sunday morning people too. And I'm just grateful.
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Yeah. Because some people, this is an easier time slot to listen. They might have jobs, but you can also listen on podcasts. By the way, this would be a good day to subscribe to the Matt Myron podcast feed as part of the move to Daily. I'm making them change the artwork because it is the most generic art way. It looks like they were like, all right, let's make a podcast feed. And somebody just goes, do you have a printer? Do we have an intern? So we got to fix that before the new show.
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I think it also says Sundays with Matt and Myron, so you're gonna have to fix
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years.
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So.
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But nevertheless, we hope everybody will join us and we're Gonna, we're gonna be a little nostalgic. We're presented by Progressive Insurance. Round out your protection with life phone and pet health insurance. For people who have been listeners, the show. You may not know all the history because you probably weren't listening at first. This show started as Matt Myron and Dan Orlovsky. It was called Countdown to Kickoff. Dan Orlofsky, who later became a star, rudely left us here in this town.
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We made them.
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Did we?
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We created him. We can't.
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We think so you think he thinks like that?
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I take credit for it. I don't know what Dan does.
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All right, well, good. Well, so did. We started with Dan. Then after one year, Dan moved up. We had Jeff Schwartz, former Oregon football offensive lineman. He was great. Then we had Joe Fortinbaugh, who then moved on to do all of the gambling things that if you notice there's a theme. Everyone else moved on. Myron and I stayed here. Then we had Doug Kazarian, who would be on once every weeks or so when he found time to actually join us.
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The dad frequent.
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He would just occasionally be like, oh, I'll, I'll show up today. And then, and then after that it was us. And it has been us for about four and a half years. Just the two of us. Myra?
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Yeah, you know, we, we're like the, the old high school football coach. You know, everybody goes on to college and, and, and now, now the kid came back and bought us a house and now we're moving to like a, a bigger city.
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Yeah, now we took a job. We moved from the local high school. Now we're moving to A4A high school.
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It took us to Central. We're at Central High now.
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I mean, don't get me wrong, they still ain't putting us on television, but for right now, no, but we're up.
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But. No, but we're on camera, though, so people need to know. Camera on the ESPN app, you could, you can see us on camera every day.
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So you'll be able to watch us on the ESPN app. That's something. I mean, that's going to mean a lot of showering for me, which is something I'm not necessarily excited about. And, you know, I'm having to.
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Wait a minute. Are you. You just take fewer showers or. What do you mean?
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Well, I don't shower on Sunday mornings before these shows. Yeah, but now you go. I mean, he can't go on camera and not at least get up and shower. So we're going to have to do that. But you know, through these years we've had a lot of producers and we appreciate them admiring you and I become friends. And I'm looking forward to doing one more in this Sunday morning routine. So 888 say ESPN, if you've been a Sunday morning listener, want to check in, we may say hey throughout the show and some special, especially some of the ones that have called a lot. We'd love to hear from you.
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Yeah, I just think those are the people I want to hear from most on the show. I want to hear from the listeners, the ones who have had our back and helped us get to this position.
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That's right.
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It's cool.
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And it is the loyal people, the people that every Sunday AM, Sunday at 10. Turn this on. There's a lot of you. And over time that has grown and that's why we're getting an opportunity to do this. It's certainly not our sports knowledge, which I am going to officially take the role of most time on ESPN knowing the least about sports. I've probably always had that title, but it's really going to advance at 10 hours a week.
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Yeah, yeah. But I mean, no one's tuning in to hear us break down the 2, 3 zone that some team play like you listen to us because you maybe want to laugh or. Yeah, just, just feel something. I feel like our show is the show that makes you feel something.
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What does it make you feel?
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A lot of things. I mean, happy, joy, upset. I mean, but it makes you feel something and that's why people tune in.
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I think it is. So 888 say ESPN phone lines are open. Let's, let's start with, with what I know you want to talk about because you like watching men beat each other in the face. And so I'm sure you were interested in the Conor McGregor debacle last night. What do you make of it? Just a freak injury and things happen? Or was it just another example of kind of people getting their hopes up for something that was never going to happen first?
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You got to say that sentence a little fast. You say you like watching men. You get Paul. There's a little too many pauses in there. Say the whole sentence. I think to me it was one of the biggest disappointments probably in sports history considering the build up. And he comes out, who knows? He says he wasn't hurt before. He looked hurt coming into the kitchen.
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If you watch, if you go back and you watch the video of him walking in, he kind of limps a couple times.
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Well, and even at the weigh in, like, he was wearing like shoes. Like what you never see guys wear.
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You're not supposed to wear shoes at the weigh in.
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No, you just never see it. So there's a lot of weird stuff that was happening. And then when he got him to the cage, he looked around in a way that I've never seen him. He looked nervous.
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Go back and look when he takes his shoes off.
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Yeah, it's weird.
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Like, it's kind of. He has like a little limp when he takes his shoes off.
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And who knows? I mean, I bet they paid him 40, 50, 60, $70 million to do that.
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Let's say that he was hurt just for sake of. Because I think there are at least. There's at least evidence that he looked hurt before the fight.
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Yeah.
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Is it a little bit scammy to then go ahead with the fight if he has no chance and he's hurt?
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Yes and no. I will say this. It depends on when he was hurt, if he's hurt. If he went through his whole training camp and everybody knew he had an injury and somehow he still got cleared to fight, that's a situation where maybe people think about legal action, I don't know. But if he's before the fight messing around because before the fight he was doing like kung fu moves and just weird stuff, that's not something you can really control.
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Do you think he might have gotten hurt on that? You know, listen, I don't know what the. The names of this stuff.
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Flying kick.
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But he did like a kick, right? And it looked like his. It looked like his knee may have flopped. Is that possibility?
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Yeah, he came out like a third grader being let out for recess. Like, you don't. Like, you're a professional fighter. And this dude just ran out and threw kicks. And Max Holloway is sort of like, what's wrong with this dude? It's disappointing because again, the buildup to it, I don't know the last time I've seen that kind of a crowd be that disappointed that quickly. But you just looked around, people were booing. A lot of people thought it was a scam. Like it was.
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But I mean, you can understand why they would think that, right?
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Yes. And I think you'll never see Conor McGregor again. Another.
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So you don't think he ever fights again?
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No. I mean, this is a guy who in. In 2021, had an ACL tear and knee issues and then more knee issues. His body's broken. At the end of the day, he can't do the things you have to Do. To be able to fight in the ufc. I think we've seen the last of
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them, but they did get. Again, let me just be clear. I have no idea who these people are that I'm talking about. I know there's a person. I know two fighters in UFC, actually, I know one if Colin McGregor's gone, because I don't believe.
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Like, McGregor, Connor McGregor. So maybe you don't know.
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Okay. Mr. McGregor. I know Jon Jones. He doesn't fight anymore, right?
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No, no.
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Okay. And then I saw that there was a return of. What is it? Patty, the baddie.
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Patty Pimblett. Who. Yeah, everyone. He might be the next Connor. I mean, like, I think that. I think yesterday that was the most exciting fight, probably, and the most exciting buildup. I think he becomes the face of the ufc. Sophie Cunningham, did you see that Was a ring girl? A ring.
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I did see that.
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Yeah.
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And she did the point thing, right?
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Yeah.
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So I. I think. I think Patty is. You're gonna see him elevated into that kind of role after last night.
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Well, I'm glad the baddie has returned, and maybe he will be the star. That.
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That.
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The thing. The thing.
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Hey, Matt, what's the name of that move that Connor did?
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It's like the. You know, and it is.
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You could. It's old. That's. That's not the move, but.
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Yeah, what's the name of it?
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It's like a flying kick, like a
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flying kind of roundhouse that. I thought it had some sort of scientific move. And I. I don't know.
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I like Matt's explanation better.
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Mine is more like what people say. Espn. It is the final Sunday morning. Matt Meyer, and we're going to take your calls, talk a little bit. What a shock. Eight years ago, we started talking about where will LeBron go? And eight years later, I will be talking about where LeBron is going into my 60s and a little World cup and more. And we're gonna have some guests, some of our favorite people that have been on over the years. They're gonna pop in as well. It's Matt Myron on ESPN Radio.
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Elton John is.
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Is this Elton John?
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What a day I'm having.
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Just calm down. Text machine. You can send us messages 772-774-5254 or you can write on Twitter. One person writes. Matt, I'm here in the Queen City. Queen City. Charlotte. Right. And that's Queen City. I'm here in the Queen City. Love. Bright way to start my week. How nice is that?
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I love that.
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Russell says congrats on new show. Looking forward to hearing you. And cook cookie all day. You'll be a daily part of my week. That's nice.
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That's another thing that happened during show. We learned that you are Don't.
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Don't take cookie man anywhere now. Don't introduce that to new listeners here. Cookie. And that's not good.
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One person writes. Matt, in your eight years how would you rank your favorite guest? Great question. I can give you a unanimous number one. My favorite guest is her members like and he's gonna be on today. I love Herm Edwards. I just think he's fun. And I would have Herm Edwards forever. I also really like Tom Crean. I like Jeff Passon quite a bit. Those are people that we've had a lot of fun with. Can you think of any other ones you'd add?
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Didn't we. Was it Jared but not Jeremy Fowler? Usually I think it's been.
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I don't think we've ever had.
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We had Jeremy Fowler. No.
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To be honest with you, I don't even know who that person.
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Yeah, Field Yates. We've had Phil Yates before.
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Anybody. Naughty.
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What are you talking about? We had Phil. If you only have Phil Yates. But I'm not here. He took my chair.
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Okay, we've had someone else.
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I'm thinking of other shows.
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Who am I thinking of? Maybe I'm thinking of other shows.
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Thinking about your other girlfriends and what
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you do with them. I'm thinking of other shows. No, I like Hermit. I like Tom Crane.
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The reality is. Let me just. Again, I'm big on. On honesty, to be quite frank with you. I don't like having guests because it limits the amount of time we talk. But when I find one that I like, then I want to have them a lot. And Herm's a perfect example because I think. I think there's a version of this show where it could be me, Myron and her.
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I love her. Yeah.
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No, Herm is like, I genuinely think we could do that show.
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Yeah.
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But we don't. So I really like having him. We got a lot of you who've called in. I'd like to talk to some of you. Let's go to Brianna in Indianapolis. She has been one of Myrons. She always calls to take up for Myron. How are you, Brianna?
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That's my friend Brianna.
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I'm good. I'm so sad, but so happy for you guys, and I can't wait. But this is actually for Matt. You don't have to shout.
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What's that? What'd you say?
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Oh, we lost her.
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Her point was that you don't have to.
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You don't have to shower.
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Yeah, well, I don't. So that's good. I mean, I will for when I'm on. On the camera on the Daily show, but I. I tend to like my showering is a shower Friday morning. And then if I don't have. If I don't have a date, then I may not shower again until Sunday night.
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Yeah, I don't think we need to start the show like this. I don't think we need to drive a date.
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Or if I have to go out in public, it's a different scenario. But if I'm just gonna be in my house. Myron, Dwell, if we do these shows
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together, you better shower. You sit next to me. You go shower.
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All right, let's go to Robert and Raleigh. Go ahead, Robert.
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Hey. Thank you for taking my call. I've called enough where I've been tossed off your show twice. And the reason I love your show is you let me call.
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Yeah.
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And yeah, I definitely deserve it because I was trying to take over the show. But the reason everyone loves your show is you actually take calls. Other shows claim to take calls, but they don't take calls. And I want to go back to Mother's Day this past year and I couldn't call because I was with my mom. And you're talking about, do you live in an area where it's hard to get on the radio because you know the team you're rooting for is not from that area?
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Yeah.
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So I want you to remember me on your new show the first week of November when I call to talk about UConn football and nobody wants to
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take my call because it's real hard
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in Raleigh to get on about. Yeah.
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I don't know how many. Here's the thing. Let me tell you a couple differences. I appreciate the call about Matt Myron. We don't screen the calls. Meaning I don't care what you're calling about. To be honest with you.
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I actually.
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They still sometimes write what you're going to say, but I'd rather you not. The other reason, and I'm not trying to be rude. Part of the reason other shows don't take calls, they don't get them. We actually get a line full of calls every show and that's why we take them. A lot of times people ask for calls, they don't get them. So like, don't necessarily take it personally. This is just a show that interacts a lot with their listeners. James in San Diego. Go ahead, James.
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Guys, I just want to say it's rare that you laugh out loud. Funny. Appreciate every Sunday morning. And my favorite too is your left handed compliments. We have jobs, we build freeway bridges. So we can't listen during the week. But I'll try to catch a laughter half hour of the show. And Myron, he directs our. He uses all his time for us historical events is when like Morris Day and the Time album came out.
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Guys, have a great day. That's his. That's his history right there. By the way, you can listen on podcasts. I understand you're gonna have a job where you can't. Three to five. That's the podcast. Just look for the most generic looking feed on yours on them. Just put in Matt Myron and then subscribe and hopefully at some point we'll have some new artwork.
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He also said what he builds bridges. He was trying to tell us like he's big time Compared to what we're doing.
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You don't like working people. That's always been a problem with you. I'm the one that's connected to the working class. You're more of a white collar kind of guy.
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No, I just don't know why the construction project takes 19 years. I don't. I don't understand why it takes that long.
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Did you see the story a few weeks back here in Louisville, Kentucky, where they're building i65 and they've shut down a major stretch of interstate. They've shut down. Basically the major interstate in town is shut down throughout Louisville. Like you can't get on it. It's called. Hadn't caused as much traffic as I thought it would, but it, but it's a lot. And to. A couple snuck on to the interstate at night and started making out and like heavy petting on the empty interstate. Did you see that, that video?
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, that's a memory, you know, that's. That's. That's a. That's. That's a man who was in over his head. Like he, he. He wanted to show he was daring and then just kind of went too far. But I respect it.
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Well, they. I mean, they ended up getting to do with it because there were no cars, but don't. Do you think that would be sort of sexy to be out on an interstate with no one there and to kind of, you know, it's closed, so you're safe.
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For certain people, maybe. But I don't. I don't get. I mean, the dirt and the rocks and the. Say. I don't. Yeah, that's a lot. I don't.
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Okay, let's go to Billy in Toronto. Go ahead, Billy.
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Hey, guys, how you doing? Listen, very simply put, I hear you guys are leaving and doing. Going somewhere else or
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espn. We're not.
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We're just. We're just expanding.
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What do you mean? You hear we're leaving this. The whole show.
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No, no, no, I get what you're saying. My point is, the one thing that I would like to see leave and leave forever is this damn sport of soccer. I mean, who likes this?
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Oh, boy.
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Hang on just a second.
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Hang on just a second.
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Why is it pathetic?
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Well, first of all, number one, it takes you. It takes you 50 passes to get the ball down the. Down the field. When you finally. When you finally get a shot or a nice goal in a one nothing game, the game is called back because of offside. Get rid of. Get rid of the offside rule. Get rid of the flopping. The flopping is just ridiculous.
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So you're saying. You're saying for you, Bill, for you. Say for you, Billy, the World cup has not caught on for you.
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I didn't even know it was on. I'd rather watch Colorado play San Francisco in baseball, the great sport of all time. I'd rather watch paint fry. I can't watch this garbage.
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You know what? There you go. Listen, not everybody has turned the soccer mug around in America. Tom Creed and we'll take more of your calls next.
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It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. We're going to take your calls off show for our last Sunday morning show, 888, say ESPN. We I was asked, okay, so who are like the two most significant friends of the show you'd like to have on the final Sunday morning? And I said one of them had to be Tom Crean, ESPN college basketball analyst and in my opinion, the nicest person that works at espn. We're moving daily, Tom, I hope you'll join us over there, but I'm glad you're joining us here today.
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No, I'm excited for you guys. I mean it. I've been following it and once they finally put out what your time slot was well deserved for both of you, it's thanks, coach. Always fun and funny to be on with you and it's great to listen to you and I think it's well deserved. I'm excited for everybody that's a part of it with you guys.
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Well, thank you very much. We've had questions coming in here, by the way, on the text machine. A lot of them are asking our producers going, actually, yes, our main producers going, and then our board ops. Some of them are going to be, you know, beyond some of the days as well. So the show is, it's just moving whole hat. All right. So, Tom, I want to start one of the things I like about you. You're honest and you give your take. And yesterday one of your online takes was, hey, everybody shut up about the summer league. Calm down. Somebody had given grades of every player in the first round. And you essentially said, everybody hush. It's been one game. Explain your position because I think you're probably right.
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Well, I just think, and again, I didn't mean it in a bad way at all. But it's like, come on, man, it's one game. And in the bottom line, when you start kicking out those grades and it just paints a picture that's not reality. Right. Like, you can get through five games in the summer league and it's hard to put a grade on. I mean, there's so many guys. Some players played in the Utah league, some of them played in the in the California games before they got to Vegas. And it's just there's so much overreaction. And I'll probably be a part of it this week because I'm doing ESPN summer league games at the end of the week and on the weekend. And I mean, you can't overreact too bad or too good. You can just look at like, okay, how can we forecast this? You know, what do we see? And I think when you start putting grades on, I think anybody putting grades on it, let alone if it's somebody that has a bunch of followers or doesn't have followers, the dangerous place to be for people, you can say it's all in fun, but at the end of the day, these guys are, they're in a brand new world, you know, matter what. So all the money they're going to make, all the money they made at nil, you know, all the brand stuff that they have, none of that matters when they play those games. And it's a whole new world, especially for the guys. Most of them haven't played much basketball in months when it comes to getting up and down a court.
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Tom, I do think summer league kind of helps you show that you can be a good teammate, maybe, if anything. And I listen to the Darren Peterson comments where he says, yeah, things didn't go well at Kansas. I wasn't happy. I didn't have the ball in my hands and now I do and things are better. What did you take from. From that sort of this new Darren Peterson we're seeing him.
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I didn't like that and I like him. I like him a lot, you know, and we interviewed him when I was with Sirius XMBA Radio when I was at the draft. I love watching him play, but I didn't like that. Like, you don't need to do that. There were so many things that were left unsaid during the. And I think he did a good job in the spring of coming back and kind of talking about the issues of why he didn't play. But now you're going to start talking about having the ball, not having the ball. That team went 9, 2 without him. You know, that's what everybody has to remember. And nobody's really talking about that, right. I think they were 15 and nine with him, nine and two without him. That was a good team. He made him better in most cases. But the whole, you know, you haven't played with Keonte George yet. You know, he's going to have the ball. There's a bunch of guys on that Team Isaiah Collier, Bryce, Sensible. There's a lot of guys that need the ball to be effective. On the Utah Jazz, you're not playing with them yet. I just wish he'd have got better advice on that because I think he is going to be. I think he's going to be a great player. I mean, when you look at his quickness, what he can do defensively. I've said this for a long time now when on air, like, he's not only a guy that could lead the NBA in scoring at some point, he's a guy that could lead the NBA some urine steals. I mean, he can be so good defensively, but he didn't need to do that, you know, with Kansas. That made no sense to me.
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Okay, so I, I want to push back on one thing about the summer league with you, Tom. I. I've been out there a few years and while I agree with you, if, if a player struggles in the summer league, I definitely don't think that necessarily means anything. But sometimes in the summer league you'll see a guy and you'll go, okay, I thought that he was going to be it it and he's going to be it. I remember Anthony Davis's summer league. He was like that. Devin Booker kind of broke out in his summer league. Shea Alexander did as well. Those are just Kentucky guys. As I watched AJ Demonsa, Caleb Wilson watching those guys, obviously people still thought they'd be good, but when you watched them, you were like, oh, okay, maybe it's this. He, they're a lot better than these dudes. Do you think there's value when you see that eye popping factor?
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I think there's value. It's a great point. I think there's value when you see something that are transferable to the regular season. So like Caleb Wilson is a great example. Watching him last year, he was 7 to 27 from 3 at North Carolina. He made seven threes the other night. So think about that. But when you watch them play and obviously from my point of being in the studio so much to see that and studying the, like, his, his footwork was impressive. I mean, he was really good with that. So he said, okay, he's going to get better as a shooter. It comes off his hand pretty good. It's a little bit slow but. But it's good. The other day he showed like that is a transferable skill to the next level. I mean to that, to the regular season, I should say, because he was able to get the three off the dribble. He was Able to get it going to his left, stepping with his left foot, he was able to get. Or going to his right step. And with his left foot, he was able to get it off of his right foot. The footwork was really good. The follow through was good. Like, when you look at that, you said, okay. That you can forecast that going into the NBA. I think the way DeBonta he's. There's a lot of things that he can do. He's trying hard to draw files. I think he's one of those guys that's going to be an early professional foul drawer. And he's. And he's using so many dribbles right now to get where he wants to go. That's not necessarily going to happen when he gets into the regular season. Like, I. I saw a comment they want to get. I think Keyshawn George and AJ debons said to be the ones that handle the ball and get Trey Young off the ball more. Well, good luck with that. Right. Like, that's not. They. Trey Young's always. That's why you pay him $214 million. You don't. Now he can do it. I love Trae Young's game, you know, especially on offense. He can do a lot of things. Things. But that's the kind of stuff you got to let it naturally happen with a debonship. But when it comes to scoring, rising up over top of people, showing quickness, having a mentality that alpha mentality, like, I'm gonna go score it. Yeah, absolutely. And I think Peterson's done the same thing, you know, the way that he's played. And even we could go to Boozer. Boozer.
B
Yeah. They all forehead. They all four had great games. Yeah. They've.
D
No question.
B
And the Michigan guys, I mean, not Mara, but the other two, they played well as well.
D
Tom was a great pick for Golden State. That was a phenomenal pick. Because now the future, the warriors future people can look at that and say, this guy's going to be good for us for a long time.
C
Tom, I want to give you a minute on something I know that's really important to you. Your guy, Victor Oladipo is about to have a public workout in Las Vegas on Tuesday. You know, inviting NBA scouts and front office guys and hoping to get another chance. What would you say to those NBA folks who are trying to make a decision on whether or not you give Victor another shot here?
D
Quit overthinking it. I mean, just simply quit overthinking it. He's done everything he can possibly do to come back. All right. Don't worry about the metrics and the analytics. He's hit those in his career. He's going to impact your locker room in a positive way. He's got a great spirit about him. He's an excellent teammate. You talked about that, about going to the summer league, and it shows who can be a teammate. He's one of the best, and he can come and he's still young enough and hungry enough that he's going to absolutely contribute to winning early, and then he's going to impact winning. And that's not hopeful wishful thinking. That's a guy that's done this at such a level for the last couple of years of bringing himself back, you know, playing on the foreign team in the exhibition season, going to the G League. I mean, at some point in time, you got to look inside. Let's give the hunger and the passion this guy has a chance because we know he's done it in the past. And it's not like he's 45, you know, he's 33, and he's been through this. So I hope. I hope somebody is smart enough to give him an opportunity. It's not going to cost a ton of money and let him bet on himself a little bit, because that's what he's trying to do.
B
Tom Cream, always been great. Usually is on the NCAA tournament shows with us, and we will certainly have him when we move daily. Thank you very much.
D
Yeah, you guys, too, man. I can't wait to hear you when you start in August. Have a great rest of the weekend. And thanks for having me on today.
B
Of course. Appreciate it. Let's go to a couple more people here on the phone. Let's try Ryan in Dallas. Go ahead, Ryan.
D
I've been here eight years. I'm from Wisconsin, and this has happened to me for eight years. My name is Ron. R, O, N. Okay, Ron. Nice to meet you, Ron.
B
Hey, listen, I'm from the south, son. You gotta. If you. Sounds like it. What it sounds.
C
Yeah. What part of Wisconsin, too, by the way.
B
See, here we go. He always gotta ask about Wisconsin. Like anybody knows where these places are.
C
What part?
D
Appleton. Appleton, Wisconsin.
C
Okay. Yeah, we used to race guys up there.
B
All right, See, Why. Why was that necessary? Why was it necessary?
C
Why not? We just beat a pretty good.
B
We need to say Appleton and you say you.
D
Right.
B
What do you mean, you race track.
C
On the track. We beat some guys from up there. That's nice. All right.
B
See, he always likes to remind people he sprints. All right, Ron, real quick, what do you got?
D
Well, one. One quick story. When I first moved here, we had a big snowstorm. And the difference between northern people and southern people. I went outside, like natural.
B
See, you did this break, all right, Because Myron got him off on Appleton, Wisconsin and running, and then he's talking about snowstorms. And now I have to go to break with Matt Myon. We'll take calls, not let Myron talk. Next,
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That's like asking if all soccer players are the same. Take Messi, the most decorated player ever. Is there any other player who has achieved that?
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Remember, goats only trust goats because they're built different. And Messi only trusts Duracell. SM here on ESPN Radio. Final, final show. Before we move to the daily shows, we got some folks I want to get to here before I do. You know, the guy called, said he hates soccer. I disagree with him. I'm fine with soccer. Except I hate var. Var has been the plague upon our soul. The Norway England game especially. You know, they had the one goal called back. Cause they said somebody pushed him 20 minutes before the goal, and then they had the one ball hit the wire and then they didn't even call that. I hate var. I understand what, for me, var it should be like only for the most egregious stuff. And when they're doing the one game where they had the whisker of the hair and the Croatia game, and then you miss the guy, the ball hitting the. The camera rope. I'm just Antivar.
C
I just hate the TV sign the referee makes whenever they go to it.
B
Like you don't like when he goes to square.
C
I hate that. Yeah, I think it should be a V. Like that's. It should be like a V, not the box. That's a weird thing. And I don't. I don't mind it if you get it right. I just hate it when I don't
B
like, though every time there's a goal. I don't like that every time there's a goal. Rather, the great thing about soccer is the goals are so few. And the celebration in that moment is so visceral and beautiful that it is awful to have this where we celebrate and then everybody looks at each other to make sure it's okay to be happy.
C
I don't.
B
I don't like that. It takes away the pure emotion.
C
Yeah. No, I. I could see in those instances, but I think if he gets it right. I don't think it did that last night with the red card, and I was rooting against England, as I always do.
B
The red card was the right call. He flopped. That was a terrible flop on the Switzerland Argentina game. That was the floppiest flop of all flops.
C
But that's a yellow car. I mean, everybody.
B
No, he already.
C
From the match. I know, but everyone flops every h. How many times do I see guys go down?
B
If you want to stop flopping, Myon. You can't get mad when they punish the flopper.
C
But how many times do I see a guy fall down acting like one was egregious? It's theater. I mean, everyone.
B
He didn't even get touched.
C
At some point, it has to be about the situation. You're gonna.
B
You want to stop flopping, you have to punish the flopper. May I give you a quote from the philosophy of law?
C
It sounds like you're going to. So. Yeah, go ahead.
B
A rule is not a rule without a punishment.
C
All right, thanks for that 39th Amendment quote or whatever that would just.
D
Was.
C
At the end of the day, you have to understand the circumstances. And you're gonna put this guy out.
B
Yes. In a quarterfinal match because he flopped.
C
I hated it twice. And then you give England. It helps England, which I never want England to win. And I just. I didn't like that.
B
You do not like my quote. A rule is. Think about. This applies to dis. This applies to your children. If you give them a rule and you don't punish them, then there's no rule.
C
Yeah, let's. That's a. It's a great quote. Let's leave it on Sunday. Like, I don't. I don't think that's a Monday to Friday thing we need to take with us.
B
I'm writing that down.
C
I don't know. That'll just quote stuff from law school.
B
I may have made that.
C
You may have made it up. You may have made it up. Up.
B
I'm gonna go ahead and tell you. I'm bringing that up every time something happens.
C
It's.
B
If you don't punish it, then it's not really a rule. It's a suggestion.
C
Okay. But like, we don't want to do Law and Order. Matt and Myra, you know, at the end of the day, sometimes you can.
B
The show is flexible to the circumstances that are going. Let's go to Scott in Virginia. Go ahead, Scott.
D
Hey, guys, a couple things I, I wanted to confirm you guys were going to change your format and go to, you know, just another sports show.
B
No, I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that.
C
They know what they're getting.
D
Yeah.
B
Like if you tried to turn me into Dak Prescott shoulder, I will spontaneously combust.
C
Yeah. And I'm just trying to see how far they're gonna let me go with some of the jokes too. But we'll see.
D
Your producer confirmed the same. But two quick things that I'll let it go. One, just. Yeah. As part of your content Monday through Friday. And I'm excited for you guys. Please just don't, don't turn into LeBron Fest because I'm tired of it. And two, I can't believe the previous caller teed up the Wisconsin thing for me because I was gonna say I've never been to Wisconsin, but I kind of wanted to say something bad about Milwaukee just to get.
B
Oh, he gets so worked up. That's exactly right.
D
But since I've never been there.
B
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
C
All.
B
I'll say it.
C
Don't say it.
B
Of all the cities I've ever been to.
C
Don't. Don't do that, man.
B
Milwaukee's one of them. Yeah, that's the best. Don't do that, man.
C
Don't. And listen, it's like you and, and how you feel about Kentucky outside people. I don't let say anything about Milwaukee. However, if you're from Milwaukee and you call me, we're gonna have to have a conversation about.
B
Yeah, cuz you're gonna tell them they're not Milwaukee enough.
C
That's what you do. No, Milwaukee people yellow yell at you for no reason. They just wake up yelling. That's the issue when it comes to my hometown.
B
Let's go to James in Tacoma. Go ahead, James.
D
Yes, sir. Will you still occasionally fill in on unsportsmanlike so Patrick producer can give you a hard time about your family First Instagram.
C
Oh, me? No, no. I, I think those days are probably, probably over.
B
We, we, we're focused on our show.
C
Yeah, we got a show now.
B
So like, I mean, there's no. Maybe they'll fill in on our show.
C
I don't know about that.
B
I don't know about we don't appreciate the call. Let's not act like it's a downgrade. Don't you. Maybe they'll have. Cohen will fill. We're a part of a.
C
We're part of a great lineup and I'm looking forward to.
B
But I just. I don't want people to act like we got to step up to the.
C
I'll be honest, I sometimes feel like I'm going have to do the PR for us a little bit because sometimes, you know, we're part of a family now, Matt, and everybody's great in the family.
B
And I'm the rambunctious cousin who hasn't
C
we haven't seen in three years and wants to come to Thanksgiving with a lot of strong thoughts. That's who you are.
B
Mexico. Bob. Hello. Go ahead.
D
Hey, boys. I just want to let you know I listen to you Cats every Sunday all the way down in Mexico. And the reason why you finally made up to big ESPN is because like Myron says, the best ability is likability.
C
Thank you. People have used that in their lives. Like the way I talk about likability, it's become a thing that people have gotten from the show and they've taken it into their lives. And I really feel good about that.
B
It also assumes that people think you're likable.
C
It's my greatest strength. It's my greatest strength. If you poll people, it's my greatest strength. It's helped me a lot.
B
I've never had people say that to me about myself. Brian is in Denver. Go ahead, Brian.
D
Hey, fellas. I just wanted to give you guys your flowers. Long time listener love. You guys love your dynamic. You guys complement each other so well. You're gonna be missing out on a golden opportunity if you don't call the show. Matt. Bridge Over Sexy Waters. Jones and Cookie.
B
Cookie. Brian, you promoted in Denver there with. Yeah, it's a bridge over sexy waters. Greg, is it? Greg is in Reno. Go ahead, Greg.
C
Reno.
D
Hey, guys, I've been listening. I love you. And I just realized today. Forever. I always thought. Myron, I pictured Roy Wood Jr. On the other end of the microphone and I have no idea what Matt looks.
B
Can't say that. Oh, can't say that. That's a cuss word.
C
You can't say that.
B
For people who it may have delayed and you missed it. He said. He said.
C
We don't know what he said.
B
No, but he said he Pictures Roy Wood Jr. When you talk and he doesn't know what I look like.
C
But we were we were headed to a good place and then he tried to get our show canceled before we even get it.
B
Can I just say something?
C
Yeah. Yes, sir.
B
You do look a little bit like Roy.
C
Yeah, I don't know that you can say that. I think you got. I don't know.
B
First of all, I'm not the one that said it.
C
I know he said it.
B
And maybe you don't think you might a little bit like Roy Wood Jr.
C
Listen, I take it as a compliment if you do this. He's incredible. He's funny. I've met him. Good dude.
B
You think you look like him?
C
Not. I think that's not. That's one of those three black friends things. I think a little bit it like.
B
I don't. I don't know, man.
C
I don't think I look like he's great though. I think you should buy on of that conversation.
D
Matt.
C
Me and you. Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
B
I'm just saying. I'm thinking. Look it up. He's tall too.
C
He's like six. He's tall, dude. You know, I'm five ten and a half, five eleven. So that's.
B
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Date: July 12, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones & Myron Medcalf (ESPN Radio)
Special Guest: Tom Crean
Theme: A nostalgic final Sunday morning episode celebrating listeners, memories, and banter as the show moves from its eight-year Sunday time slot to a weekday afternoon spot.
In this milestone episode, Matt and Myron host their final Sunday morning broadcast after eight years, reflecting on their journey, bond with listeners, and how the unique spirit of the show led them to a new daily timeslot. The episode blends gratitude, nostalgia, signature humor, and a touch of sports talk, featuring favorite callers and special guest Tom Crean. Memorable moments include stories from the show’s history, a live breakdown of the latest McGregor UFC debacle, debates about soccer’s place in America, summer league overreactions, and fun call-ins from fans.
Timestamps: 00:27–05:44
Eight Years Together:
Matt: “We are the longest running show on ESPN with the same host in the same time slot... But this will be the last one on Sunday morning as we’re moving to daily Monday through Friday from 3 to 5pm.” (00:46)
Gratitude and Nostalgia:
Myron: “I think mostly I feel grateful... I love my Sunday morning people too. And I’m just grateful.” (01:33)
Podcast Art Banter:
Matt jokes about updating their “generic” podcast artwork for the new show.
Show Origins:
Tracing the evolution from “Countdown to Kickoff,” co-hosts like Dan Orlovsky, Jeff Schwartz, and Joe Fortinbaugh, to the current dynamic duo.
Myron: “We created him. We can’t.” (referring playfully to Dan Orlovsky’s career.)
Bond with Listeners:
Both reminisce about the community built over Sunday mornings.
Timestamps: 05:44–06:05
Timestamps: 06:05–10:27
McGregor’s Injury and Spectacle:
Myron: “One of the biggest disappointments probably in sports history considering the buildup...” (06:32)
Matt: Observes McGregor’s limp and odd behavior before the fight.
Both question if McGregor was knowingly hurt and the legitimacy of proceeding.
On Potential Scams:
Matt: “Is it a little bit scammy to then go ahead with the fight if he has no chance and he’s hurt?” (07:34)
Myron: “Yes and no... That’s a situation where maybe people think about legal action.”
Next UFC Face:
Myron predicts: “I think Patty is... you’re gonna see him elevated into that kind of role after last night.” (09:54)
Casual Fan Perspective:
Matt admits: “Let me just be clear. I have no idea who these people are that I’m talking about.” (09:08)
Timestamps: 12:10–20:57
Favorite Guests Discussion:
Matt: “My favorite guest is Herm Edwards... I also really like Tom Crean. I like Jeff Passan.” (13:13)
Myron gently teases guests’ identities and selection.
Calls and Engagement:
Multiple calls from longtime listeners—Brianna (Indianapolis), Robert (Raleigh), James (San Diego), Billy (Toronto), among others.
Soccer in America:
Billy (Toronto) laments: “The one thing that I would like to see leave forever is this damn sport of soccer. I mean, who likes this?” (19:45)
Matt and Myron respond playfully, setting up broader sports talk.
Funny and Candid Listener Moments:
Stories about showering habits, construction projects, making out on a closed interstate, left-handed compliments, and geographical rivalry banter.
Timestamps: 23:31–33:08
Guest: Tom Crean (ESPN College Basketball Analyst)
Victor Oladipo’s Comeback Attempt:
Tom: “Quit overthinking it... He’s done everything he can possibly do to come back... give the hunger and passion this guy has a chance because we know he’s done it in the past.” (31:45)
Timestamps: 35:02–39:02
VAR Frustrations:
Matt: “VAR has been the plague upon our soul... I hate VAR. For me, VAR should be only for the most egregious stuff.” (36:22)
Myron: “I just hate the TV sign the referee makes…” (36:26)
Flopping & Punishment:
Myron: “It’s theater. Everyone flops.”
Joking About Sports Law:
Banter about rules, children, and legal philosophy in sports.
Timestamps: 39:08–44:28
On Future Show Format:
Scott (Virginia): “Are you just going to become another sports show?” (39:08)
Matt: “No, I couldn’t do that. I couldn’t do that... If you tried to turn me into Dak Prescott shoulder, I will spontaneously combust.” (39:16)
Myron on going “as far as the jokes will let me go.”
Milwaukee vs. Everywhere Else:
Myron: “You and how you feel about Kentucky outside people. I don’t let [anyone] say anything about Milwaukee. However, if you’re from Milwaukee and you call me, we’re gonna have to have a conversation about.” (40:17)
Filling in on Other ESPN Shows:
James (Tacoma): “Will you still occasionally fill in on Unsportsmanlike?” (40:43)
Myron: “No, no. I think those days are probably over. We’re focused on our show.” (40:52)
“Likability is the Best Ability”
Mexico Bob: “The best ability is likability.”
Myron: “It’s become a thing that people have gotten from the show and they’ve taken it into their lives. And I really feel good about that.” (41:58)
Show Name Suggestions:
Brian (Denver): “Call the show Matt: Bridge Over Sexy Waters, Jones and Cookie.” (42:44)
Timestamps: 42:58–44:28
The final “Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron” episode is a warm, heartfelt send-off that celebrates the unique chemistry between hosts and their loyal audience. Packed with call-ins, inside jokes, and unfiltered sports (and non-sports) commentary, it’s a fitting farewell to Sundays and an exciting preview of the humor and insight fans can expect in their new weekday slot.