Podcast Summary: "Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron"

Episode: Hour 1: He's Got Abs
Date: November 23, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones (ESPN Radio), Andrew Salchunas
Key Guest: Herm Edwards

Overview

In this lively Sunday morning episode, Matt and Myron (joined by Andrew Salchunas and Herm Edwards) break down the latest college football and NFL storylines with their signature blend of humor, banter, and sharp analysis. The episode covers College Football Playoff debates, quirky moments in sports culture (like the "Diego Pavia Mom" phenomenon), Lane Kiffin coaching rumors, and in-depth NFL talk—including candid locker room stories and Herm’s proud revelation that he’s still got abs at 71. The tone is conversational, often irreverent, and packed with memorable moments.

College Football Playoff Clarity & Controversy

[00:29–02:49]

Notre Dame or Miami?
Matt and Andrew discuss the controversy over Notre Dame being ranked ahead of Miami despite Miami’s head-to-head win.
- Andrew: "Even though Miami won the head to head, Miami has had two worst losses than Notre Dame... That's an impressive win and I think they needed to show that they could beat down on some of the little brother opponents." [01:24]
- Matt agrees context matters: "I normally I'm always go to head to head, but I do think context matters... Miami's two losses are to a Louisville team that is now reeling... I'm okay with it." [02:06]
SEC Week Before Rivalry Week
With most SEC teams playing weaker opponents, there’s little movement, though Notre Dame’s huge 70–7 win and Georgia Tech’s loss are noted.

Sports as Reality TV: The Diego Pavia Mom Moment

[02:49–04:57]

Matt reflects on the media spectacle around Diego Pavia’s mother during Vanderbilt-Kentucky:
- "She was Taylor Swift, like Taylor Swift was not even on TV half as much as Diego Pavia's mom." [02:06]
Andrew adds: "I'm always a fan of popping circumstance. We always talk about how sports is the greatest reality TV show there is." [03:41]
Both hosts riff on the blending of sport and spectacle and how families in the stands become part of the experience.

College Football's Whimsical Rivalries

[04:59–07:06]

Matt describes the Cal-Stanford "dorkiest students" postgame standoff:
- "They take the dorkiest students and then if one team has beaten the other, they hand... an ax... while looking serious. It is the nerdiest thing I've ever seen." [05:55]
Andrew defends involving all types of students, highlighting school spirit and the beauty of college rivalry traditions.

Bill Belichick at UNC: Circus or Second Chance?

[07:08–08:31]

Matt and Andrew debate Belichick’s future at UNC after a rivalry loss to Duke ends bowl hopes amidst off-field drama:
- Andrew: "No, I don't think so. I mean it was a disaster from the beginning, right?" [07:26]
- Matt: "They give him a lot of money if they fire him... I kind of think if he wants to come back, he will." [07:48]
- Andrew jokes about Belichick’s family drama overtaking the program: "Now we have family members dropping ultimatums..." [07:57]
- The conversation pivots to the season’s offbeat theme: "Diego Pavia mom and Jordan Hudson"—a nod to college football's wild off-field personalities.

Lane Kiffin Sweepstakes: Where Next?

[11:15–18:30]

Matt and Andrew dissect rumors that Lane Kiffin could jump from Ole Miss to LSU or Florida, potentially for a $98 million deal.
- Andrew: "What I would do, I would go to Florida... What will he do? I would see him more so going to LSU." [12:15]
- Matt: "Is there any case though, to stay in Oxford?... You could be in Oxford, win eight or nine every year, and they will one day name the stadium after you." [14:27]
- Both discuss the allure of being the hero who revives Florida or riding out success and legacy at Ole Miss.
- Matt draws parallels to John Calipari leaving Memphis for Kentucky: "There's just something about the Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina thing that I need to be a part of." [15:02]
Should a Departing Coach Lead a Playoff Run?
- Matt and Andrew consider if Kiffin should coach Ole Miss in the playoff if he takes a new job.
  - Andrew: "Yes, I would have him coach... Can you get the job done here first?" [16:50]
  - Matt: "Every success they have in the playoff would be a billboard for LSU or Florida." [18:11]
- Matt predicts: "He will go on game day next Saturday and make the announcement on game day, whatever it is. That's my prediction." [18:30]

NFL Talk with Herm Edwards

[21:41–33:38]

Chiefs: Contenders or Just Tired?

[21:41–23:55]

Chiefs are 5–5 but show strong stats—are they still dangerous?
- Herm: "You got to knock them out. They're five and five and they're, they're, they're hovering... they're tired. This is what happens when you're a team like the Chiefs the last three years. You wear down because you get everyone's best game." [22:33–23:55]

Eagles' "Pothole Offense"

[24:06–26:04]

What's up with the Eagles' inconsistent offense?
- Herm: "Facts are the facts. We knew after a 2,000 yard rushing, he was not going to run for 2,000 yards. It wasn't going to happen... Same offense. It's just not as explosive as it was last year... this offense is like in Philly and then on the east coast when in the rain and the snow, you get potholes and it's like a pothole offense." [24:27–25:54]
- Matt: "Alright. That's gonna be my phrase for Eagles this year, potholes." [26:01]

Jaylen Hurts Gets Herm’s Stamp of Approval

[26:04–26:27]

Herm: "He doesn't care about stats. He doesn't care about the noise. He just finds a way to win games." [26:20]

Bills: All on Josh Allen’s Shoulders

[26:27–28:53]

The Bills run through Allen, but how long can "Superman" carry them?
- Herm: "They're playing with Superman... he's tired. He has no help, guys." [27:02]
- Herm: "They've been fortunate... but he's special, guys." [28:31]
- Matt: "Andrew, the guys like you in Buffalo and the callers are kind of harsh on Josh Allen. It really surprises me." [28:33]

Shadour Sanders’ Debut and the Pressures of Pedigree

[28:53–30:27]

Herm reflects on the pressure facing Deion Sanders’ son, Shadour, in his first NFL start:
- "He has a high, high expectations because he's Dion's son. Right." [29:24]

NFL Locker Room "Naked Interview" Etiquette

[30:27–33:38]

Matt describes his first experience interviewing (naked) NFL players postgame, and Herm shares his take:
- Matt: "What is it with these NFL guys that they're just walking around naked with the media?" [31:21]
- Herm: "I don't even know why the organization would just say, man, look, we, we got to be professionals when we do this." [31:45]
- Andrew: "No other sport. You're right. Maybe we go towel policy." [31:58]
- Herm: "Some of these guys, you need to cover that stuff up. Three fourths of them, you need to cover it up... it ain't like you have this beautiful body..." [32:21]

Herm's Abs: The Most Memorable Boast

[32:54–33:38]

Herm (proudly): "I promise you, you're out here... I got 4% body fat." [33:06]
Matt (disbelieving): "What is it with you people? Over 70, things like, I got abs." [33:12]
Herm: "I promise you, anybody that see me with my shirt off, players, they'll tell you, oh, man, Coach, he still ripped." [33:16]

Quick Hits & Memorable Quotes

On spectacle in sports:
"Sports is the greatest reality TV show there is." – Andrew Salchunas [03:41]
On Notre Dame's blowout win:
"70 points, I don't care who you're playing, that's an impressive win." – Andrew Salchunas [01:24]
On Herm’s longevity:
"I'm 71 years old and I still got abs." – Herm Edwards [32:54]
On the ‘nerdiest’ college tradition:
"The nerd standoff of Cal Versus Stanford is... I love the idea. I want to know where they recruit these nerds." – Matt Jones [06:50]

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:29 | College Football Playoff, Notre Dame vs Miami rankings debate | | 02:49 | The Diego Pavia Mom spectacle at Vandy-Kentucky | | 04:59 | Cal vs Stanford “nerd handoff” tradition | | 07:08 | Bill Belichick’s UNC tenure drama | | 11:15 | Lane Kiffin job rumors, Florida/LSU/Ole Miss debate | | 16:50 | Should a departing coach lead the team in the playoff? | | 21:41 | NFL Talk – Chiefs, Eagles offense, Herm Edwards joins | | 24:27 | Eagles “pothole offense” metaphor | | 26:04 | Jaylen Hurts is underratedly consistent | | 26:27 | Bills and Josh Allen’s solo heroics | | 28:53 | Shadour Sanders’ NFL debut—pressure of legacy | | 30:27 | NFL locker room "naked interview" culture | | 32:54 | Herm Edwards proudly proclaims his abs at 71 | | 36:13+ | Quick NFL whiparound, breaking news on Aaron Rodgers |

Recap

This episode puts ESPN’s smart, irreverent Sunday energy on full display. Matt and Andrew mix deep sports analysis with cultural commentary, and Herm Edwards’ blend of humor and behind-the-scenes experience elevates the NFL talk. Whether it’s playoff debates, sideline soap operas, or the mysteries of sports locker rooms, "He’s Got Abs" is pure sports radio fun—with enough insights and laughs to satisfy any sports fan.

Memorable Moment:
Herm Edwards, NFL veteran and coach, declaring:
"I'm 71 years old and I still got abs. I promise you, anybody that see me with my shirt off, players, they'll tell you, oh, man, Coach, he still ripped." [32:54]

If you want both the latest in football and the quirkiest weekend stories—with plenty of laughs and a few surprises—this episode is a must-listen.

Podcast Summary: "Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron"

Episode: Hour 1: He's Got Abs
Date: November 23, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones (ESPN Radio), Andrew Salchunas
Key Guest: Herm Edwards

Overview

College Football Playoff Clarity & Controversy

[00:29–02:49]

Notre Dame or Miami?
Matt and Andrew discuss the controversy over Notre Dame being ranked ahead of Miami despite Miami’s head-to-head win.
- Andrew: "Even though Miami won the head to head, Miami has had two worst losses than Notre Dame... That's an impressive win and I think they needed to show that they could beat down on some of the little brother opponents." [01:24]
- Matt agrees context matters: "I normally I'm always go to head to head, but I do think context matters... Miami's two losses are to a Louisville team that is now reeling... I'm okay with it." [02:06]
SEC Week Before Rivalry Week
With most SEC teams playing weaker opponents, there’s little movement, though Notre Dame’s huge 70–7 win and Georgia Tech’s loss are noted.

Sports as Reality TV: The Diego Pavia Mom Moment

[02:49–04:57]

Matt reflects on the media spectacle around Diego Pavia’s mother during Vanderbilt-Kentucky:
- "She was Taylor Swift, like Taylor Swift was not even on TV half as much as Diego Pavia's mom." [02:06]
Andrew adds: "I'm always a fan of popping circumstance. We always talk about how sports is the greatest reality TV show there is." [03:41]
Both hosts riff on the blending of sport and spectacle and how families in the stands become part of the experience.

College Football's Whimsical Rivalries

[04:59–07:06]

Matt describes the Cal-Stanford "dorkiest students" postgame standoff:
- "They take the dorkiest students and then if one team has beaten the other, they hand... an ax... while looking serious. It is the nerdiest thing I've ever seen." [05:55]
Andrew defends involving all types of students, highlighting school spirit and the beauty of college rivalry traditions.

Bill Belichick at UNC: Circus or Second Chance?

[07:08–08:31]

Matt and Andrew debate Belichick’s future at UNC after a rivalry loss to Duke ends bowl hopes amidst off-field drama:
- Andrew: "No, I don't think so. I mean it was a disaster from the beginning, right?" [07:26]
- Matt: "They give him a lot of money if they fire him... I kind of think if he wants to come back, he will." [07:48]
- Andrew jokes about Belichick’s family drama overtaking the program: "Now we have family members dropping ultimatums..." [07:57]
- The conversation pivots to the season’s offbeat theme: "Diego Pavia mom and Jordan Hudson"—a nod to college football's wild off-field personalities.

Lane Kiffin Sweepstakes: Where Next?

[11:15–18:30]

Matt and Andrew dissect rumors that Lane Kiffin could jump from Ole Miss to LSU or Florida, potentially for a $98 million deal.
- Andrew: "What I would do, I would go to Florida... What will he do? I would see him more so going to LSU." [12:15]
- Matt: "Is there any case though, to stay in Oxford?... You could be in Oxford, win eight or nine every year, and they will one day name the stadium after you." [14:27]
- Both discuss the allure of being the hero who revives Florida or riding out success and legacy at Ole Miss.
- Matt draws parallels to John Calipari leaving Memphis for Kentucky: "There's just something about the Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina thing that I need to be a part of." [15:02]
Should a Departing Coach Lead a Playoff Run?
- Matt and Andrew consider if Kiffin should coach Ole Miss in the playoff if he takes a new job.
  - Andrew: "Yes, I would have him coach... Can you get the job done here first?" [16:50]
  - Matt: "Every success they have in the playoff would be a billboard for LSU or Florida." [18:11]
- Matt predicts: "He will go on game day next Saturday and make the announcement on game day, whatever it is. That's my prediction." [18:30]

NFL Talk with Herm Edwards

[21:41–33:38]

Chiefs: Contenders or Just Tired?

[21:41–23:55]

Chiefs are 5–5 but show strong stats—are they still dangerous?
- Herm: "You got to knock them out. They're five and five and they're, they're, they're hovering... they're tired. This is what happens when you're a team like the Chiefs the last three years. You wear down because you get everyone's best game." [22:33–23:55]

Eagles' "Pothole Offense"

[24:06–26:04]

What's up with the Eagles' inconsistent offense?
- Herm: "Facts are the facts. We knew after a 2,000 yard rushing, he was not going to run for 2,000 yards. It wasn't going to happen... Same offense. It's just not as explosive as it was last year... this offense is like in Philly and then on the east coast when in the rain and the snow, you get potholes and it's like a pothole offense." [24:27–25:54]
- Matt: "Alright. That's gonna be my phrase for Eagles this year, potholes." [26:01]

Jaylen Hurts Gets Herm’s Stamp of Approval

[26:04–26:27]

Herm: "He doesn't care about stats. He doesn't care about the noise. He just finds a way to win games." [26:20]

Bills: All on Josh Allen’s Shoulders

[26:27–28:53]

The Bills run through Allen, but how long can "Superman" carry them?
- Herm: "They're playing with Superman... he's tired. He has no help, guys." [27:02]
- Herm: "They've been fortunate... but he's special, guys." [28:31]
- Matt: "Andrew, the guys like you in Buffalo and the callers are kind of harsh on Josh Allen. It really surprises me." [28:33]

Shadour Sanders’ Debut and the Pressures of Pedigree

[28:53–30:27]

Herm reflects on the pressure facing Deion Sanders’ son, Shadour, in his first NFL start:
- "He has a high, high expectations because he's Dion's son. Right." [29:24]

NFL Locker Room "Naked Interview" Etiquette

[30:27–33:38]

Matt describes his first experience interviewing (naked) NFL players postgame, and Herm shares his take:
- Matt: "What is it with these NFL guys that they're just walking around naked with the media?" [31:21]
- Herm: "I don't even know why the organization would just say, man, look, we, we got to be professionals when we do this." [31:45]
- Andrew: "No other sport. You're right. Maybe we go towel policy." [31:58]
- Herm: "Some of these guys, you need to cover that stuff up. Three fourths of them, you need to cover it up... it ain't like you have this beautiful body..." [32:21]

Herm's Abs: The Most Memorable Boast

[32:54–33:38]

Herm (proudly): "I promise you, you're out here... I got 4% body fat." [33:06]
Matt (disbelieving): "What is it with you people? Over 70, things like, I got abs." [33:12]
Herm: "I promise you, anybody that see me with my shirt off, players, they'll tell you, oh, man, Coach, he still ripped." [33:16]

Quick Hits & Memorable Quotes

On spectacle in sports:
"Sports is the greatest reality TV show there is." – Andrew Salchunas [03:41]
On Notre Dame's blowout win:
"70 points, I don't care who you're playing, that's an impressive win." – Andrew Salchunas [01:24]
On Herm’s longevity:
"I'm 71 years old and I still got abs." – Herm Edwards [32:54]
On the ‘nerdiest’ college tradition:
"The nerd standoff of Cal Versus Stanford is... I love the idea. I want to know where they recruit these nerds." – Matt Jones [06:50]

Timestamps for Key Segments

Recap

If you want both the latest in football and the quirkiest weekend stories—with plenty of laughs and a few surprises—this episode is a must-listen.

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Summary

Podcast Summary: "Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron"

Overview

College Football Playoff Clarity & Controversy

Sports as Reality TV: The Diego Pavia Mom Moment

College Football's Whimsical Rivalries

Bill Belichick at UNC: Circus or Second Chance?

Lane Kiffin Sweepstakes: Where Next?

NFL Talk with Herm Edwards

Chiefs: Contenders or Just Tired?

Eagles' "Pothole Offense"

Jaylen Hurts Gets Herm’s Stamp of Approval

Bills: All on Josh Allen’s Shoulders

Shadour Sanders’ Debut and the Pressures of Pedigree

NFL Locker Room "Naked Interview" Etiquette

Herm's Abs: The Most Memorable Boast

Quick Hits & Memorable Quotes

Timestamps for Key Segments

Recap

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron"

Overview

College Football Playoff Clarity & Controversy

Sports as Reality TV: The Diego Pavia Mom Moment

College Football's Whimsical Rivalries

Bill Belichick at UNC: Circus or Second Chance?

Lane Kiffin Sweepstakes: Where Next?

NFL Talk with Herm Edwards

Chiefs: Contenders or Just Tired?

Eagles' "Pothole Offense"

Jaylen Hurts Gets Herm’s Stamp of Approval

Bills: All on Josh Allen’s Shoulders

Shadour Sanders’ Debut and the Pressures of Pedigree

NFL Locker Room "Naked Interview" Etiquette

Herm's Abs: The Most Memorable Boast

Quick Hits & Memorable Quotes

Timestamps for Key Segments

Recap