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This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Shave ice by the beach, a trip to the state fair and a throwback flick at the local drive in. They're more than just items to check off the summer bucket list. They're also opportunities to earn 2% daily cash back when you use your Apple Card with Apple Pay. Apply for Apple Card now and use in minutes with Apple Pay. Subject to credit approval. Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City branch terms and more@applecard.com this is Matt and Myron on ESPN Radio.
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And that Dart 64 from Kentucky, Matt Jones.
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Why wouldn't you tell me who Chamber Wamba is, though? That's the problem. I was trying because you. I'm trying to see, this is why I can't. You get frustrated too easily with me with music. I like talking to you about music because you get frustrated because I'm trying
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to lead you to a talking point and you start talking about something that
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has nothing to do with it, you start talking about. Right.
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Said Fred Myron Metcalf. And I'm trying to talk about nerd rock. And you're over here talking about things
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that have nothing to do with. Okay, well, that's what I have to offer on the show. That's my contribution is this Chimawamba, Matt and Myron on ESPN Radio and on the ESPN app.
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Last person on earth who would ever mention Chumbawamba on national radio is Myron Metcalf. And this is Matt Meyer, presented by Progressive insurance. It is August 11th and we are here getting ready for what I would call this, this two or three week period. First couple weeks of August, in my opinion, are the most difficult couple of weeks to do sports radio of the year because people have like transferred their mind to sports, but there's really not a ton happening yet. Which, you know, is why it's a perfect time to launch a new show is because you want to make it during the hardest time in sports. And that's what Myron Metcalf and I are here to do. Myron, good. See you this morning or afternoon.
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Yeah, this is, this, this is fun. I mean, people are paying attention to football. Like, did you see 7 million people watch the hall of Fame game?
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Is that how many watch the 7 million people?
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7 million. More than any NHL game last season. More than any Major League Baseball game this season. That's crazy.
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That, that is an amazing statistic. It shows how kind of the NFL especially is like the last form of television that America shares. You know what we don't really share shows. We don't really share, you know, music. I mean, we really don't share anything as a collective society. But the NFL still, Myron, is kind of the one thing that everybody sort of agrees to tune into and then. And then deal with when it's over.
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Yeah, I mean, ever since we lost tgif, you know, there. There's nothing really bringing us all together. So I think you were.
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You were big into tgif. Which version? So you liked Full House, Family Matters, Step by Step. Is that the era you're talking about?
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Yep. And I feel like they would alternate the fourth show. Like hanging with Mr. Cooper was in there for a stretch.
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Boy Meets World.
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Boy Meets Boy Meets World. Got in there. There was another show. I can't recall. But they. Those were the stables, though. Full House, Family Matters, Step by Step. So, yeah, no Friday night. These kids don't know what they're missing. The anticipation of a TGIF gathering.
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I forgot about hanging with Mr. Cooper. That was when they were like, you know what? We got. We gotta add a little. We gotta do a little more here for. It's a very white Friday night. We need to kind of. I was like, whoa, this is incredible.
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We got this. And Family Matters. I was like, all right, things are looking up.
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That's exactly right. ESPN Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. Let's get off the top. What are we thinking about? I'm trying to think, but nothing happens. Nothing happens. It's time to find out.
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This is off the Top.
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The top. Flash off the top with Matt and Myron. So with the NFL training camps going on, it was. There were probably three or four teams that went into training camp where you, at least in theory, had a quarterback battle. You know, Cleveland is one, potentially Atlanta would be another. And one was supposed to be Minnesota. And we don't even get into week one of the preseason until a decision is made. The Vikings announced today Kyler Murray will be the starting quarterback. J.J. mcCarthy, even after only playing six games in his rookie season, is now designated to a backup role. No one has stronger Vikings takes and opinions than Mr. Minneapolis himself, Meyer Metcalf. Do you think it was the right decision and do you have some positivity about the Kyler Murray era?
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Yeah, it was the only decision. I mean, when you signed Kyler Murray, the job was his, but, you know, he's had a couple of rocky practices the. These last few days, but JJ McCarthy has not been good enough to prove he can be a starter. And then he made the little Side comment where he said when Kyler Murray was signed, it was like a high school class where he's on one side of the room and Kyler's on the other side of the room. I just think this is the vikings saying that JJ McCarthy doesn't have a future in Minnesota. I won't be surprised if they trade him. But for Kyler Murray, he is in the best spot maybe in the league in terms of dudes who are trying to get paid. Listen to this contract, Matt. So the Vikings are only paying him 1.3 million, the Cardinals.
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That's amazing. Yeah, that is amazing that they have. Whether he ends up being good or not, a guy who has been good in the league for 1.3 million and
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the Cardinals have to handle the other $33.5 million. But here's the biggest kicker. He has a clause in his Vikings contract where they cannot franchise tag him after this season. So this is basically Kyler Murray's audition to the league and then he can sign wherever he want. I mean, it's a it incredible. His agent to me is the real winner in all this.
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But that assumes anybody is going to want to sign him. I mean, doesn't he. He has to play well, I would think for any league. I mean, for him to make even anywhere in the ballpark of what he's making, he's going to have to have a big year. I mean, you're not going to want to pay a KYLER Murray even $25 million to come sit the bench. So you're going to have to go and want him as a starter. And when you consider how good next year's NFL draft is and the players in the league, I mean, how many team even gonna have in theory a need for a Kyler Murray as a starting quarterback?
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I mean, we'll find out this year. I mean, I think Kyler Murray's. His career has been defined by injuries. Like healthy Kyler Murray has been really good. Like, I don't know, there's been a year when he was fully healthy and he really struggled. So if he's healthy, I think he'll have a big year. Now, the durability of the small quarterback has not been good in recent years, but there's so much on the line for Kyler Murray. It's a great situation for everybody involved. If he has a great year, he can go and get paid. And to your point, maybe someone else comes in. Kevin o' Connell has obviously been the quarterback whisperer. And if he doesn't, there is a Great draft class ahead. But I think Kevin o', Connell, to avoid the hot seat, needs Kyler Murray to have like an all pro season or else it's going to get dicey for him.
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Didn't you just said a second ago he was having bad practices in a row? How do you know that? Are you at the practice? Like, who's telling you he's having bad practices?
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Well, I've read about it and I know people, so I mean, it's a combination of the two.
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So who do you know?
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I've been hearing about.
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I mean, who do you know who's out there telling you how Kyler Murray's practicing?
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I. I know people. And what I can tell you is Kyler Murray has not been perfect in a lot of these practices. J.J. mcCarthy. McCarthy hasn't been as well. But you gotta remember J.J. mcCarthy's 23, so he's a really young dude, man. But this could be the end of the road for him. I don't know if the Vikings are going to keep him around if he can't be a starter. They have Carson Palmer. I just think we have an evaluation problem in the NFL. Everybody looks and goes, wow, you didn't develop this guy. Maybe he just wasn't good enough in the first place.
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Based on where you picked, this is now the fourth year in a row that the Vikings are going to have a different quarterback starting for them. Are you one of the things on Sunday mornings you always would blast the franchise of the Vikings for how they handle quarterbacks. Do you feel even more vindicated as they go into year four with another quarterback? That also is very unlikely to be the long term solution either.
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Yeah, I mean, there's no stability. Right. They had a chance to get Sam Donald and then Sam Donald goes and wins the super bowl elsewhere. Right. They didn't franchise tag Sam Donald. They could have. Now you have Kyler Murray, Matt who, if he's great, you have no ability to keep him. That's the most bizarre part for me is you sign Kyler Murray knowing he could be great this year and then just leave. So I don't know what the Vikings plan to do without stability. Like, at some point they got to draft the right quarterback and develop that quarterback. You can't just be playing musical chairs at that position, especially in this division.
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We'll have to see what ends up happening. Now. I. But when we start a show, I also think it's important to get your emotions out, Myron, to let you know where I'm coming from.
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From.
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Okay. Because If I. If I end up being a little grumpy or something today, I don't want you to use it against me.
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Okay?
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I am a little grumpy at this moment because, you know, I have a house. I moved into a house. Never had one before. And as part. I've learned as part of living in a house, you have to once a week, take the trash out. Were you aware of this?
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Yeah, I've had a house a long time.
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Yep.
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You have to once a week, and you go put it on the street. Right. And then they come and they get it.
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You an alien?
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Did you just get to Earth? Well, I've always been in, like, apartment buildings where, you know, I put it in a chute or I carry it to a room.
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Why are you.
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Why are you asking me if I'm an alien? I just have never. No, I've never. So, you know, on Monday, so I asked my neighbor, I'm like, what day do they do it? And he's like, Tuesdays. And he said, you got to put it out early because they sometimes will come really early. So I quickly go. Last night, late at night, I move the trash to the road. And then. And then my assumption is they'll come and get it. Well, it's now 3:10pm and they haven't gotten it, and I'm worried they're going to leave it. And I don't know who to call. And I'm upset because people say to me, if it's not gone by noon, it's gone. And so I just want you to know if you sense some anger for me, it's because I worked all night to go get that trash out there, and no one has come to get it. Yeah.
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I mean, again, it feels like a very new thing for you to understand that that's what the rest of us have been doing for a long time. The night before. Move. That was a pro move. Get it out the night before.
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Yeah.
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And you just got to make a call and find out because, you know.
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But, see, I don't know. You have to understand, the people who know me in Kentucky know this. The national people may not know this. I don't know how to do basic skills. Okay. Like, there are some basic skills. Like, you say you got a call. Who do I call? Like, who.
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Who's the.
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Who.
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Who's the person that you call for these things?
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Match.
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Match.
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You've been my friend for a long time. I want to tell you something. When you say, like, you don't have the basic skills, I Want to know what you're really saying is I've had money for a while.
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It's not about money. I've lived in these basic complexes like I did. I. I don't know. I've never call some. Who do you call?
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Did you listen? So for me, a lot of it's the listening. So for me, on garbage day, I'm near the window so I can hear the rumble. Like, eventually. Like, I got a good ear. Like, I have a trained ear. Like, I can hear miles away things that other people can't hear. And so you listen to the rumble. So usually it's like they're loud, but
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you're still not asking me who to call. Josiah James. Can someone tell me who do I call?
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People. This has happened.
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This happened to me before.
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Sanitation or something like that. Yeah, but that's not an answer. You just call trash people or city sanitation. Where do I even find the number?
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Are you in an association?
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Yeah.
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Like.
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Like your town sanitation. Well, first, I don't. I. This is not Little House on the Prairie. I don't live in a town. I live in a city. And. And if I call, they'll just come right now?
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Yeah. Well, no, you. You just figure out who your trash hauler is, and then from there you call them and see what the schedule is. Here's another option that I do. Sometimes I deliver my own trash. Sometimes. Sometimes I just. I like going to the dump. I know, Shirley, at the dump. If you listening, I like going to the dump on my own.
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Yeah. Did you say he's there? Our guest?
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Yes.
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Okay, I've got to explore the. The phrase I like going to the dump because I don't. I don't. I've never heard anyone before, but Matt Myron is presented by Progressive Insurance. It's easy to handle your home and car insurance. @progressive.com we are now joined by Lance Briggs. He's a former Chicago Bears linebacker. He works for NBC Sports Chicago. Lance, before we get started, my co host just said he liked taking his garbage by hand to the dump. Have you ever done that? One time.
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It's. It was a requirement. It was a chore. You know, taking the. Taking the trash out, taking to the dump. You know, that's. That's.
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But you took it to. You took it to the road, though.
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You didn't.
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You didn't drive to the dump. Lance, like he's talking about, he likes to take his trash to the city dump.
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Yeah,
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I mean, you know, to each their own.
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You know, maybe you don't Want your trash hanging around?
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Maybe it's stinky, maybe it's smelly.
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I don't know. All right, well, there you go. Well, I'm a Chicago Bears fan, as you can see, see by my shirt. So I'm excited to have you on. I am. Have more anticipation for this season than I've had. I don't even know in how long should I be as excited about this group and their super bowl potential as I am?
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You should. You know, last year they were, you know, the expectations weren't as high. We didn't know exactly what we had, and they found ways to win games, you know, to win games. So now you're in a, in a position where, you know, the winning is expected. You're in a tough division. There's winning expected in Green Bay, there's winning expected in Detroit, there's winning expected in Minnesota. So it's. I think the NFC North's back where it needs to be competitive. And the Bears, I think they're exactly where they need to be. They're. They're in the driver's seat. I think this season comes down to them. I think they're full control of what happens this year.
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Lance, I'm born and raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Grew up as a Packers fan. I'm not a believer in terms of what I saw from the Bears because of those close games. Right. And my challenge is sometimes those teams that win a bunch of close games one year, lose them the following year. Help me understand why that's not going to be the same situation with the Bears.
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Well, again, they weren't expected. The players that are in place outside of, you know, you, you, you miss a DJ more, you miss a few players, but the players that were, that have stood in there, those players have, have shown flashes that they can get the job done. You know, the, the number one reason why you should feel like this team can do it is because of number 18. You know, then the second reason why is because they invested in that offensive line, you know, they protected up front. Another reason why is you turn to the tight ends. They have phenomenal tight ends. Another reason why you turn to the receivers. You look, everywhere you look on that offensive side, you have reasons to show why this team is going to be dangerous and, and hard to stop.
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You didn't mention defense, though, last.
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Go down. Down the line as well. Yeah. Defensively, go down the line. The biggest question mark the Bears have, can they stop the run? Can they stop the run? Can they get off on third down deep?
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And that's been their question mark. Yeah, that's been their question. Before we get to the defense, I want to talk to you about number 18. We're talking to Lance Briggs, former Chicago Bears linebacker. You've been cha. You spent your career chasing around quarterbacks. So I know you know the quarterback position. Right now people have Caleb Williams ranked, I don't know, 10th, 11th, 12th, 9th, somewhere around there on the quarterback rankings. A or first number one, how high do you think he can rise? And then number two, what makes him so difficult for a defense to deal with?
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His foot, his footwork, his, his ability to escape. One thing that, that you've seen a lot from him is when the rush gets to him or when a pass rusher gets to him, he can evade that and create, create more time. That's very dangerous for defensive backfield because a quarterback that creates more time. You know, you're defensively, you're based off of your, your technique is based off of four seconds. So beyond four seconds now you're, you're more winging it. You know, it's, it's a plaster situation. And he's a master at evading the, the, the, the satin or the pass rush. So that's one, that's one area where I know that, that, that the, the Bears, that, that's part of the expectation. The Bears are going to be very good. Now if he can just sit in the pocket and make that read and throw it, that's even, you know, that's even a bigger plus. But when you do everything that you're supposed to and, and he's, and you still can't get to the quarterback and you have all of these, all these talented targets, you're going to find yourself in a lot of trouble.
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Lance, you've been working with Salute to Service, which I know is very important to you. Tell us a little bit about that. Yes.
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Usaa. This is the Bears boot camp. Got me back in. In the Walter Payton center, the indoor center. Man, it's been a while, but it was a lot of fun. Got in there, you know, saw a lot of NFL style combine drills. There were plenty of military guys and girls out there running, 40s, three cone drill, you know, broad drop, broad jump, you know, a lot of, a lot of fun, man. It was a lot of fun. I got to coach a little bit, coach him up and it worked for some. It didn't work for everybody.
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Well, if I brief Myron and I come up to Chicago, will you put us through some combine drills? I'd like to be Able to improve my 40 and other drills.
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See, and that's where I was going to start right there. Listen, there's, there were a few techniques that, that I wanted to help some, some of the folks with when it came to the 40, but it didn't really help the 40. Now they were, listen, I saw some arms swinging and some legs kicking fast, but the, the, the, the, the stopwatch did not agree with it. Okay.
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I don't know why you would assume that would happen to me and Myron. We might have, we might surprise you with our get up.
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I, I, the only thing that would surprise me with your 40 time is if I had the timer. And if I had the timer, you're gonna run a sub 5.
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That's my kind of guy. See, that's my dude. That's why he's a Chicago Bears legend. Lance Briggs, NBC Sports Chicago. Thank you very much. We'll talk to you again during the season.
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You got it, fellas.
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Appreciate it. Sean in Washington has some trash advice for me. Sean?
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Okay, Matt.
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Longtime listener, first time caller, and thank you guys for doing this.
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I'm curious, Matt, does anyone in your household bake?
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I'm the only person in my house. You are looking at my household right here. This is, it's me, myself and I.
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Do you bake?
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No. All right, then perhaps go out, purchase a baked good and leave it on my trash. A dish from your house? No, no.
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And walk it to your neighbor's house
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and ask them what day is trash
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day and whether they know the phone number.
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Okay. Yep, that's, that's not a bad idea. All right, I appreciate it, John. Eight, eight, eight, say ESPN as we take a break here, Martin. I'm going to go outside, see if it's still there because I want to be in a good mood the rest of the show. We got a lot of stuff to get to and it's, it's on my mind whether or not that trash is going to go away. And, and I certainly, people keep writing me and saying, call the city. There's not a phone number. Which just like hello, city, this is Matt.
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Yes, there is there actually, that's actually exactly what the city has.
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Hello, city, it's Matt. Come get this trash. It's next year. I'm Matt Myron.
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Myron here on ESPN Radio. What do you think about this song, Myron? This little Kentucky woman. Let's give, give a little chorus. Here we go.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What do you think about that?
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I, I think there were no brothers in the studio when this, when this song was made. Not, not a one.
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What do you mean there were no brothers? This is Neil Diamond.
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I, I get it.
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But there were no brothers involved. No brother was part of. She's ain't the kind of woman who turns her name or turns her face at the drop of her name.
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You know, if they called Bootsy Collins, he said he was busy. Like, I just don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think anybody returned.
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You Told me the reason I hadn't played this is you told me that there were Kentucky women in your. In your Instagram follows.
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You get me?
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This is.
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Listen, you, you. I've had more followers.
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Yes.
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In the last week and a half
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and they are Kentucky.
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Some from Kentucky. But don't say like, Kentucky women are following me. Don't make it. That's not.
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That's not.
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Neil diamond said they'll get to know you.
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Stop it, man. Stop, man.
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I'm just telling you what's going on. 888, say ESPN. You know, the great thing about this show is people will call, like, if you don't. When, when you're trying to figure out who you call for trash and what you do. Brad in Houston has trash advice and I'll listen to Brad in Houston. Seems like a good fella. Brad. Myron, this is not a money issue. This is a Kentucky issue.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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He's never had to take trash out or get picked up because they had a 55 gallon barrel drum behind the house and they would just put the trash in there to burn it every Saturday. Let me just be clear. He's not wrong. My grandfather, when I was a kid, my grandfather would burn anything. He had his big old. He had this big pit and he would just throw it in there and burn it. At one point, the city of Middlesboro, Kentucky told him he had to stop, and so he did. But. But Brad. And Houston is not wrong.
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I'm just saying it's a country thing. It's a country.
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I mean, it's. Do it yourself. We're libertarians here in. Okay, so I don't think you should
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burn the trash, by the way. I don't think you should do that.
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I think the government had a role in that too. Manny. Manny is in Harlem. What's up?
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Harlem. Harlem.
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Yes.
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Matt, I got a couple question for you. Do you have an HOA maybe question? I'm not sure. I think so. I haven't talked to them, so I don't know. I think they exist though. Yes.
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Yeah.
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Are you in a subdivision? I am, yes.
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Okay.
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So when you get your house, they should engage. I'm a. I'm a president of my hoa. I'm sorry? Vice president of my hoa.
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Oh, hello. You're vice president. Don't, don't. Hey, don't pretend like you're the president and you're the vice president.
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He's.
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He's already planning a coup of this.
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Does the president know that you're trying to take over is that. Does the association know your plans?
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Yeah, sometimes. But Matt, we gave you a. They gave you a packet. And in that packet it would tell you who's your trash guy.
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Ain't nobody reading the packet. I got one too. I haven't read it in 20.
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I tell you, I never. I never got to read the packet. They didn't.
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Nobody's reading it.
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I don't even know how to open one of my blinds, so I certainly don't have a packet.
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Matt, I'm going to give you the solution.
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Yeah.
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Load it in your truck and your car. Go down to the dump yourself. That's what I do.
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So you told me. And I appreciate the call. Manny and Harlem, I want to go visit your hoa. You told me you. You put the trash in your car and go to the Minneapolis dump on your own.
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I will go to. There's a dump you can go to. I pay the kid, I don't know, five, six bucks a bag, whatever it is, and I'll just roll through. And they just let me go straight to the back. One time I got in the way of one of those cranes that was moving trash all over the place. They didn't like it, but I threw it in there. They said I could.
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You have to pay them five or six dollars a bag to take your trash. If you.
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If you take it yourself. Yeah. Like if you have extra trash, you take it yourself.
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Yeah.
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You got to pay to go.
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Why would you do that effort.
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Because sometimes I'm traveling and it gets backed up and sometimes I don't want to wait. So I'll just go down there and it's me next to the. Next to the trash trucks and they don't like it, but I'm there right next to them throwing trash in.
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That's a horrible.
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That's doing my thing.
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I'm hoping they come and get mine. Now, the NBA released their opening night and Christmas Day schedule. By the way, Harlem hoas, you are on notice for man. Yeah, he's planning.
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He said, I'm the president.
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He's playing vice president. So they're going to open opening night. First, a couple things interesting to me about the schedule. First of all, the first NBA game is going to be on a Tuesday at 3pm they are opening games in the afternoon. The Celtics will play at the Pistons. Here's where I think this comes from, Myron. The World cup got some great ratings playing in the middle of the afternoon during the week. And it's always kind of been this belief that you shouldn't have games during the day for a variety of reasons. The World Cup's numbers for day games, even day games between teams that didn't really wouldn't. You wouldn't think would be exciting. They got huge numbers. Do you think these leagues are going to start to see during the day, during the week, as times you can play?
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I think it's a test case, I don't know that everyone can. I mean, the World cup had such a global audience, so you kind of put anybody out there. There was such a fascination. I don't think the NBA can do that. Like they can do that with Lakers, Celtics, whatever team LeBron is on. So maybe there's five or six teams you could do that with. But you can't just make that a thing unless I think, unless you have those big time teams.
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I feel like though you're probably right about that. But I do feel like there is a market for games during the day. Cause there are people who are just for whatever reason, you know, a lot of people work from home now. You can have it on there. Just a thought now, what do you think about the fact that the Knicks on opening night, they're going to make LeBron go watch the Knicks get their rings in New York on opening night with the 76ers at the Knicks. Do you think that's a little devious from the NBA?
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I love it. I mean, to me, what I appreciate about the NBA line is that they say they do care about storylines. Like remember Adam Silver a month ago said they couldn't set the schedule because they didn't know where LeBron was going to it. And that's how big he is in terms of what they do with the schedule. So I love it. The pageantry of that, the drama, that's the game you want on opening night. You know, he's filming his documentary. I'm sure that's probably gonna be the opening scene. But the bigger thing is the get in price right now, and I think it's going up is about $2,000.
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Matt, that's just getting price.
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That's just the, just to get into the building. Right now it's about $2,000. And it made me wonder like what people would be willing to spend if people would give up a paycheck to go to their favorite game. Because that seems crazy to me.
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What's the most you've ever spent to go to a sporting event? I mean, you are, you're kind of rich, people know that. So like what is the most you have spent to Go to a sporting event.
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Probably not a lot because things are given to me.
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Excuse me. Excuse me, Mr. Roosevelt?
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No, no, I don't. No. Like when I've done like that. No, when I've done like the sweet thing and all that.
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I'm not paying the sweet thing. Okay.
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When I've done. When I've had those experiences. I didn't, I didn't pay usually. So how much would I pay? I mean, I'd pay.
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How many times are you getting invited to Swedes
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again? I'm not a. I'm not someone who. People have offered me things over the years.
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Wait a minute, James. He says he's not somebody that brags.
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That's an honest answer. I think he says, no, I just haven't paid for a lot of the opportunities I've had. That's all it is, man. How much would I pay for a big time game? I'd give up. I give up a paycheck to go to a big game. I think. I think I would.
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Wow. He gets. Listen, folks, he gets given things. It's okay. He gets given things. Sometimes it happens.
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It's. It's honest. It's not, it's not like I'm somebody special.
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I went this year, I think the most I've ever spent on a sporting event. I went the Carolina Hurricanes played at the Montreal Canadiens in the Eastern Conference final, and I went to Montreal and I sat on like the fifth row because I wanted to like experience it. And I spent a lot of money. Here's what's crazy. I spent a lot of money for an NHL Eastern Conference final, rooting in Canada at one of the most historic buildings and it still wasn't close to NBA opening night on the Knicks. Like that's. In terms of cost. I cannot imagine people want those games like that. That's crazy to me.
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Well, the thing for me is, is like to me, if you were on the get in train, like I could see Philly fans wanting to be a part of that. And then it's also going to be banner night, ring night for the Knicks. So I get that all of that's raising the price, but man, $2,000 for
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just to get in. I mean, that's just to get in,
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to be in the building that. And it's only going to rise from here just to get in as crazy.
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Now they also, on Christmas, they announced the Christmas schedule and generally speaking, they've always put kind of the marquee games for that in the early evening, et cetera. It's interesting the NFL, of course, has made Christmas a thing as well. They have taken. It will be noon. Spurs at Nicks. So your NBA Finals rematch is the first game of the day. Do you like that?
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Love it.
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The earlier the better.
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And then they go Heat at Celtics. Then the 76ers are at the Lakers. That's LeBron versus Bronnie, although I don't know if Bronnie will get in. Thunder at the Timberwolves and then Nuggets at the Warriors. There are also three NFL games that day. Packers are at the Bears, the Bills are at the Broncos, and the Rams at the Seahawks. Christmas Day, which there used to be a time where there were no sports, is now becoming. Is it becoming, like, along with the Thursday and Friday of the NCAA tournament, like the most loaded sports day of the year?
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Yeah, and I understand why, like, to me, it's where, you know, people are going to be gathered. I also think, you know, what is the actual Christmas celebration for most people? Okay, maybe some presents, some food.
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Some people, Myron, gather with their families, exchange.
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Yes, that's what I mean. Yeah, but how long does that actually take? I think the NFL and NBA realize people don't just want to talk to Uncle Earl for three hours, Right? So give them something to watch and pay attention to. I think it also acknowledges the fact that most people have access to many screens. So it ain't just the traditional tv. I think it makes a lot of sense.
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And it might also be that when you're with Uncle Earl, you have nothing to say. You could put the game on and you all can sit in silence and not actually interact in any meaningful way. That may be the way to go. 888, say ESPN. Do we have somebody we. I think we got folks out here. I'd love to. Let's take one more before the break. Who is it? Let's go to James in Richmond, Virginia. Go, James. Hey, how's it going, man? I got first time call the first time. Listen, what's up?
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I appreciate that. Hey, man, two things.
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One, I wanted to let you know if you wanted to get that trash
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situation taken care of, you just look
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on the can itself and it most
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likely has a number to call in case something happens to it or you need to replace it.
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First of all, that's the first helpful piece of information anyone's given me. You say the phone number is on the trash can during the break. I'm gonna go outside and see if I can find the phone number on the trash can. What's your next thing.
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Second thing is you have to walk into a spider web and you just can't seem to.
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Every time you wipe away, it just keeps just coming back.
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That's kind of. I'm a Steelers fan. That's kind of how I feel about Mason Rudolph.
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How does he continue to be a backup quarterback in fifth birthday?
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No matter how comes back, y' all
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can't get rid of Mason Rudolph. Mason Rudolph's like that woman you dated that's a little crazy and like just keeps coming back into your life. That's Mason Rudolph. That's a good point. Mason Rudolph the spider.
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Yeah.
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He basically shows up to Thanksgiving after the breakup. You know, just check it in. He's kind of one of those before
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Thanksgiving, am I still allowed to come? I know we broke up.
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Check in.
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I already had plans. 888, say ESPN. One of the things that's traditional in sports, old head athletes like to talk crazy. Well, two of the most legendary basketball players of all time are talking crazy. That and I'm going to go see if I can find this phone number of the gas or for the trash company out here. That's next year on met Myron Gas 2. Shohei Ohtani's interpreter was fired today.
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Yeah, I liked it. You know, it almost didn't happen. Like, Run DMC hung up on them. Really? When they called.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Aerosmith called and they hung up on him. And they're like, nah.
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Well, you're saying Steven Tyler just called Rev Run and he hung up.
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They called him. They called him and they hung up because they were like, we're not doing that.
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Interesting.
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And then like, their label convinced him how big it would be. And then obviously it became global.
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Yeah, we have some breaking news. There's a little sound bite. You're supposed to like a, you know,
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gotta know what was going on.
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You want to hit it there? The breaking news thing.
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Hold on one second.
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All right. Yeah, just anytime. Theree we go. ESPN Radio breaking news. It's 15 seconds later. That's okay.
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It's not breaking when you hit it.
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It's not breaking when you do it three days later. Yes. And it actually loses the joke because the breaking news was. They picked up my trash.
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Yeah. The breaking news alert 18 minutes later.
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Look, this the second week, I promise you saved. I'm sorry, there's going to come. Yeah. Once you save it, it's on the.
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It's on right now. Easily. That was the kind of breaking news alert.
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All right. In the future, that way, when I say the trash is picked up. So the trash has been picked up, everyone. It's good. I think they must have heard the radio and they were like, we need to.
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They probably did.
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My. You and I have talked over the years. Old heads in the NBA are some of the most bitter people in sports, don't you think? Like, yeah, NBA dudes who, when they get old, they just immediately believe, well, I could beat everybody that plays now.
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And I.
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Why is that?
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Like, I don't know why they can't just kind of appreciate what they achieved, Praise this generation of players and then leave it alone. It's very odd to me kind of how they approach this generation.
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They do not like it. And let me give you two examples. So let's start with Scottie Pippen. I think it's fair to say of the great players in NBA history, is Scottie Pippen the most bitter of all of them?
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I mean, him and Malone, I think, are pretty high on that list for sure.
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Malone's got other problems, but Scotty Pippin specifically does. He really is. And he, he said this about LeBron. I have six rings. If you want individual accolades or championships, I don't chase mine. Scotty Pippen saying why he would rank himself ahead of LeBron in the all time player rankings. Would you rank yourself ahead of LeBron or would you admire and. Or do you should Scotty?
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Yeah, it's, it's ridiculous because here's the thing. Scottie Pippen, I think, is like a transformational player. I don't think Michael Jordan wins without him. He's one of the first sort of versatile. I can guard every position forwards, one of the first sort of point forwards. And remember, when Michael Jordan leaves for baseball, Scottie Pippen finishes top three in MVP voting the final year, like the next year. So Scottie Bibbin holds his own and I do think he's one of the great players. But every time there's a Scottie Pippen interview, it's always something is wrong. Like, don't, don't you have a problem with those people, Matt? Like the people who you go to him and 9 out of 10 times he talked to, something's wrong. Like, the older I get, the more I just can't hang out with people who are like that. And Scotty would be someone that I wouldn't want to be around.
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I'm not saying Scotty Pippen wasn't a great player, but Scotty Pippen did have two chances to do it on his own, and he didn't even make the finals either time. Right. And the idea that You. He can't. Well, I guess he does legitimately believe he's better than. Than LeBron, but it's ludicrous. I mean, it is absolutely ludicrous. But he's not the only one. Shaquille O' Neal was asked about LeBron's time in Los Angeles compared to other Laker legends, and he said, the good thing for LeBron, he did win one. But, you know, Kareem got six, Magic got five, Kobe's got five. I've got four. Kurt Rambis has three. So, you know, he. He's at the party, but he's not on stage. He's at the party, Myron, but he's not on stage. My man mentioned Kurt Rambis over LeBron.
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Yeah, if you. If you mentioned Kurt Rambis, I can't take it seriously at all. And I also think, again, Shaq, one of the greatest of all time.
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Little.
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But I don't think those guys would have won. Yeah, those guys would have won four or five rings in this era, which is far more competitive. So why not just say, guess what? We were great when we played, and these guys are great right now. Like, I don't understand the value. The NFL does such a good job of saying, man, Joe Montana, I don't know if he could play now or whatever, but when he played, he was great. Baseball's very good at that. Hockey is really good at saying, yeah, these were the legends of the past. Let's honor them. The NBA feels like the only sport where you have a bunch of old heads who are saying, well, they weren't as good as we were. Like, why do that?
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Part of it is there's a tendency in the media, I think, in the N B. A, we want to rank guys more than any other sport. You know what I mean? Like, nobody sit. Nobody sits around and goes, who's better, Barry Bonds or Babe Ruth? Like, that doesn't really happen a lot. And in the NBA, the Jordan LeBron thing happens all the time. So I think it makes these old guys mad. But at the same time, if you. And, like, I think Shaq's actually underrated historically. But you're not LeBron, either one of them. They're just not. And it's kind of frustrating to me, that is these old guys, they just sit around angry all the time. Just enjoy yourself. Be happy. Go to a suite with Myron. When the rich people invite, do you have to hate your rivals in sports? We'll talk about one coach who says they don't and why he is completely wrong. On Matt My thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the Podcast.
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In this lively and humorous first hour, Matt Jones and Myron Medcalf dive into the slow sports news cycle of August with a mix of NFL training camp updates, personal anecdotes, and conversations with listeners. The highlight of the hour is an insightful interview with former Chicago Bears linebacker Lance Briggs, who discusses the Bears’ Super Bowl prospects and the keys to their 2026 season. Later, Matt and Myron tackle news from the NBA and riff about generational rivalries in sports, all while Matt navigates the trials of suburban trash collection.
Minnesota names Kyler Murray as starting QB over J.J. McCarthy, who is now relegated to a backup role (03:58).
Myron argues Murray was always the logical choice but notes his rocky practices; the Viking’s lack of plan for a long-term QB is criticized.
They note the unique structure of Murray’s contract, including a no-franchise-tag clause, making 2026 an audition year for Murray.
“This is basically Kyler Murray’s audition to the league and then he can sign wherever he wants. His agent to me is the real winner in all this.” – Myron (05:58)
Matt questions the logic in how the Vikings handle QBs: “They had a chance to get Sam Darnold, then Sam Darnold goes and wins the Super Bowl elsewhere. Now you have Kyler Murray—if he’s great, you have no ability to keep him.” (08:30)
Myron expresses doubt about J.J. McCarthy's long-term potential and hints at a possible trade.
Matt: “Old heads in the NBA are some of the most bitter people in sports...”
Scottie Pippen ranks himself ahead of LeBron based on his rings; Myron says, “Every time there’s an interview, something’s wrong with Scottie. The older I get, the more I can’t hang out with people like that.” (42:16)
Shaq says LeBron, despite his Laker title, is "at the party but not on stage," even mentioning Kurt Rambis' three titles over LeBron's.
The episode is a blend of sports analysis and comedic banter. Matt's self-deprecating humor about suburban living complements Myron's dry wit and encyclopedic sports knowledge. Their conversational style keeps things approachable and engaging, mixing deep dives on NFL/NBA topics with lighthearted rants about day-to-day annoyances and cultural differences.
Even in the dog days of summer, Matt & Myron keep sports talk engaging with sharp observations, relatable life struggles, genuinely useful fan interaction, and a top-tier Bears interview with Lance Briggs. The episode is peppered with memorable one-liners, honest hot takes, and insightful commentary—whether you’re in it for the NFL depth, the NBA banter, or just to hear two friends mock each other over trash day.