Hour 1: The Chat is Active

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron – Episode Summary: "Hour 1: The Chat is Active"

Release Date: December 22, 2024
Hosts: Matt Jones and Myron Metcalf
Platform: ESPN Radio

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I. Introduction and Overview of the Day's Sports Events

The episode kicks off with Matt Jones and Myron Metcalf expressing their excitement despite initial nerves about returning to work after a hiatus. They reflect on the previous day's sports activities, highlighting a day packed with four college football playoff games, two NFL matchups, a full slate of NBA and NHL games, major college basketball contests including the CBS Classic, a significant women's basketball game, and a heavyweight boxing fight.

Myron Metcalf ([00:43]):
"Yesterday was going to be the anchor what looked to be one of the great sports days in history... but it felt like the whole day kind of was a complete dud."

Both hosts agree that despite the high expectations, the day fell short, with only the Tyson Fury vs. Vasiliy Lomachenko fight and the USC game standing out as highlights.

II. Active Chats During Broadcasts and Viewer Engagement

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the active live chats accompanying sporting events. Myron shares his observation from being in the chat during the Tyson Fury vs. Vasiliy Lomachenko fight, noting the global participation and vibrant conversations.

Unknown Speaker (Caller Nick) ([02:15]):
"This was more active than normal though. I think people were watching across the country, across the world."

Myron humorously remarks on Nick’s method of gauging a fight's success based on chat activity, highlighting the interactive nature of modern sports viewership.

III. College Football Playoff Selection and Seeding Controversies

The hosts dive deep into the contentious topic of the college football playoff selections, particularly focusing on the inclusion of Indiana and SMU over traditional powerhouses like Alabama. They debate the fairness and effectiveness of the current seeding system, questioning whether automatic bids for top conference champions are justified.

Myron Metcalf ([06:09]):
"I think everybody knows that Alabama, Penn State game would have been better than the SMU, Penn State game would have."

Unknown Speaker (Nick) ([07:35]):
"Boise State and Arizona State shouldn't that have automatic buys to the second round."

The conversation parallels the playoff selection with the NCAA tournament's approach, where the sheer number of games allows for standout performances amidst numerous less competitive matchups.

IV. Tribute to Ricky Henderson

A heartfelt tribute is paid to Ricky Henderson, one of the greatest baseball players of all time, who recently passed away at 65. The hosts highlight his illustrious career, including his record as the all-time stolen base leader and his charismatic personality.

Myron Metcalf ([20:53]):
"There were two NFL games yesterday. We still got some people on here who want to tell Myron that he didn't actually get the boxing pay per view because the chat doesn't get brought to you at that moment."

The segment honors Henderson’s legacy and his impact both on and off the field.

V. NFL Game Analysis: Chiefs vs. Texans and Ravens vs. Steelers

Matt and Myron analyze two key NFL games from the previous day:

1. Kansas City Chiefs vs. Houston Texans
   The Chiefs secured a 27-19 victory, maintaining control throughout the game with a convincing performance.

2. Baltimore Ravens vs. Pittsburgh Steelers
   The Ravens dominated with a 34-17 win, showcasing their superior gameplay and continuing to build their reputation as a strong contender.

Matt Jones ([24:29]):
"Yesterday, four of the best teams in the AFC went at each other. Neither result a shock. Both home teams won."

VI. Quarterback Highlights and Comparisons

A substantial discussion revolves around the quarterbacks Lamar Jackson (Ravens), Josh Allen (Bills), and Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs). The hosts debate their performances, potential, and their standing in the league.

Unknown Speaker (Caller Ryan) ([25:16]):
"We do see what the Ravens can be. The question is, can they be that when it matters? I think we got to get over the Lamar Jackson narrative."

Myron Metcalf ([26:02]):
"Lamar Jackson is in that group. But Mahomes is clearly on another level."

They acknowledge Mahomes' exceptional talent and leadership, positioning him slightly above his peers, while also discussing Jackson and Allen's capabilities to secure future Super Bowl victories.

VII. Injury Update: Tank Dell

An update is provided on Tank Dell, a key player whose season has been marred by injuries. Reports indicate that Dell has dislocated his kneecaps, a severe injury that could complicate his recovery process.

Unknown Speaker (Ryan) ([26:38]):
"Tank Dell has a significant injury. He is in a hospital, a local hospital right now."

VIII. Pittsburgh Steelers’ Season Outlook

The Steelers' prospects are scrutinized, particularly focusing on their quarterback situation. Matt expresses skepticism about their chances, citing the lack of an elite quarterback as a critical weakness.

Myron Metcalf ([29:42]):
"It's not possible for them to be a contender because they don't have an elite quarterback."

IX. Falcons’ Decision to Bench Kirk Cousins

A heated debate unfolds regarding the Atlanta Falcons' recent decision to bench veteran quarterback Kirk Cousins in favor of rookie Michael Penix Jr. The hosts criticize the Falcons’ management for their handling of the situation, highlighting the financial and strategic implications of such moves.

Unknown Speaker (Caller) ([37:19]):
"The Falcons are the ones that look the worst in this situation... they've messed up on Kirk Cousins from the beginning."

Myron Metcalf ([40:03]):
"If signing Kirk Cousins was a fireable offense, that doesn't change with Michael Penix."

The conversation underscores the challenges teams face when managing quarterback transitions and the potential fallout from backing rookie players over established veterans.

X. Aaron Rodgers’ Netflix Special and Player Personalities

Brief mentions are made of Aaron Rodgers’ Netflix special, with the hosts discussing public perceptions of the quarterback and his off-field persona. They touch on the impact of such media appearances on his legacy and post-football career prospects.

Myron Metcalf ([43:12]):
"It is unfathomably bad in terms of how Aaron Rodgers comes off."

XI. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Highlights

As the episode wraps up, Matt and Myron preview upcoming games, including an NFC North showdown between the Detroit Lions and Chicago Bears. They encourage listeners to stay tuned for further analysis and discussions on these matchups.

Matt Jones ([34:24]):
"Jared Goff leads the Detroit Lions into Chicago to face Caleb Williams."

Myron Metcalf ([33:13]):
"We got a lot of games today to get into as well. We'll get through all of them, including the most interesting one that happens at 1:00."

The episode concludes with a mix of light-hearted banter and promotional content, maintaining the engaging and conversational tone that listeners have come to expect.

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Notable Quotes

• Myron Metcalf ([06:09]):
  "I think everybody knows that Alabama, Penn State game would have been better than the SMU, Penn State game would have."

• Unknown Speaker (Nick) ([07:35]):
  "Boise State and Arizona State shouldn't that have automatic buys to the second round."

• Myron Metcalf ([20:53]):
  "There were two NFL games yesterday. We still got some people on here who want to tell Myron that he didn't actually get the boxing pay per view because the chat doesn't get brought to you at that moment."

• Myron Metcalf ([26:02]):
  "Lamar Jackson is in that group. But Mahomes is clearly on another level."

• Unknown Speaker (Caller Ryan) ([37:19]):
  "The Falcons are the ones that look the worst in this situation... they've messed up on Kirk Cousins from the beginning."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, debates, and insights shared by Matt Jones and Myron Metcalf during the episode, providing listeners with a clear overview of the topics covered and the perspectives presented.

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

This is Matt and Myron the podcast.

[Myron Metcalf]

It is countdown to Kickoff here on ESPN Radio or sometimes we call it Sunday mornings with Matt and Myron presented by Progressive Insurance. 888C say Dr. Pepper call in line. I'm just so excited cuz my decided to return to work and I was just nervous presence again. You can be a part of Cow dad to kickoff Nation on the Dr. Pepper calling line. 888 say ESPN 8887293776 ESPN presented by Dr. Pepper. It's not college football season. Ice cold Dr. Pepper. College football. It's a Pepper thing. College football. Yesterday was going to be the anchor what looked to be one of the great sports days in history. Four college football playoff games, two NFL games, a full slate of NBA, NHL, some major college basketball tilts including the CBS Classic, a major women's college basketball game and a heavyweight boxing fight. And when it was all said and done, Myron, it felt like the whole day kind of was a complete dud. Did you feel like that it was.

[Unknown Speaker]

Like that last Joker movie or something like what is this? You know what I mean? Like a lot of buzz, a lot of hype and then you see it, you're like man, we didn't really get the, the excitement that we had anticipated. And I feel like sometimes that happens. Like sometimes there's too much. Right. But you rarely see where they are just duds across the board. But I think that definitely happened Saturday with the exception of I think the Tyson Fury USYK fight was pretty good. And then usc.

[Myron Metcalf]

Anyone do you think? Anyone but you watch that globally?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, globally. I was in the chat. People were watching like there was a.

[Myron Metcalf]

Chat in the chat. What is you were in the chat.

[Unknown Speaker]

There was a chat attached to the fight.

[Myron Metcalf]

You could, you could judging the successfulness of something based on how many people were in the comment section. Yeah, you are a grown man. You are judging it by the chat.

[Unknown Speaker]

It was active, man. There were a lot of people in the chat talking about it was active. There were a lot of people in the chat talking to the fight.

[Myron Metcalf]

I could take you to websites where I the chat is very active on some stuff that we wouldn't call necessarily mainstream.

[Unknown Speaker]

This was, this was more active than normal though. I think people were watching across the country, across the world. And then USC, UConn, women's basketball, shout out to that game. Juju Watkins, Paige Beckers put on a show. That was an incredible game, but the rest of sports wasn't as impressive.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I was on the chat for Indiana, Notre Dame, and it was active, man.

[Unknown Speaker]

It was like people were commenting, like, hey, what'd you think of that round?

[Myron Metcalf]

Also, by the way, said that like. Like, my grandma would say it. Like, I was on the chat. Like, there's one chat for the fight.

[Unknown Speaker]

I think they knew I wasn't supposed to be in it. Like, I don't think I, like, had the lingo or. You know what I mean? I don't know, but it was. It was people.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'd like to have seen you on that chat. Well, the. Let's talk about the college football one, because I think it's going to be the one. Even with major NFL games yesterday, I think it is the thing that sort of has the most conversation. All the home team went 40 in the first round. They won all four games by 10 or more points. The average margin was 19.3. In every game, one of the teams led by at least 21 points. So it wasn't the most competitive game. As a matter of fact, watching it, I'm not sure any game felt like the same level of teams were on the field, except maybe Texas, Clemson. But even Texas looked better at that one. I take it as this, Myron. If you people love the first two days of March Madness and they talk about how, you know, it's amazing, all these games, and they're usually 32 games, and when you go back and look at it, usually only about one out of every four of those games is good. There's always a lot of routes. It's just we skip those because the quantity is so great that we find a good one. This, I think, is normal for a first round of a playoff. And it feels like to me, a lot of people have overreacted at the large margins.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I mean, they've definitely overreacted. I don't know what people want. Do you want to go back to a system where everybody plays in a bunch of different bowl games and we vote for a national champion, Is that what people want? So, like, at the end of the day, people push for a playoff. You got it. This is what can happen. However, I think there's just an easy fix, right? This isn't about Indiana and smu, which.

[Myron Metcalf]

By the way, Nick, hang on just a Second, this is an easy fix from a guy who determine the successfulness of a fight based on. You did. Who was in the chat.

[Unknown Speaker]

You weren't in the chat, though, man. If you would have seen the chat, you would have seen it was active. It was like just going nonstop, man, with people from all over.

[Myron Metcalf]

And what were they saying? Like, furious, good fight, man.

[Unknown Speaker]

Crazy fight.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, they were saying, whoa, whoa. Good fight.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. And they had their flags from different countries. So it was a big deal. Here's the issue with college shows going crazy right now.

[Myron Metcalf]

Look at this.

[Unknown Speaker]

Can I make my point? Can I make my point? Indiana SMU is not the story here. Like, this isn't about whether or not they should have gotten in. Which, by the way, Matt, when did Alabama become a victim? When did we decide that Alabama football is not.

[Myron Metcalf]

First of all, it's not about being a victim.

[Unknown Speaker]

They're acting like it.

[Myron Metcalf]

The question. And this is the same question you and I will talk about in March when they're talking about the NCAA tournament. The question people have to determine is, what is the bracket? Is the bracket. Do we want the 12 best teams? Is the bracket that we want the 12 teams with the best rev like, resume? Is it that we want 12 teams that sort of represent all of college football? Those are all different questions. My point is, I don't like when people get up, like the chair of the selection committee and say, we got the 12 best teams because Alabama is one of those teams. But if you're. But, like, I also understand why someone would say SMU deserve to be in more than Alabama. I get that. But everybody knows that Alabama, Penn State game would have been better than the smu. Penn State game would have been.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, but Alabama, Oklahoma was a terrible game and Alabama didn't look good.

[Myron Metcalf]

My problem with Alabama is beat smu.

[Unknown Speaker]

But my challenge is Alabama had chances to get into the field if they just weren't terrible against Oklahoma. But that's beside the point. They weren't in Indiana and SMU were in. All you need to do is give a true seating in the playoff. Like, at the end of the day, Boise State, Arizona State shouldn't have automatic buys to the second round. And I think that's a big part of the challenge is if you seeded this correctly, you wouldn't have had, I think, the same blowout.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think that's the exact same thing you would have had. Well, okay, let's play it out. If we did it your way. All right, so then the five seed, at that point, if we did it Your way, the five seed would have been. Would have been what? It. Who was the 6? So the 6 was. These numbers are not right on the screen here. You've got the five down six. Six would be Penn State. So Penn State would have got played first. Penn State would have played Arizona State. Do you think that game would have been better?

[Unknown Speaker]

I think it had a chance to be better.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't think it would have been any better. You would have had. You would have had Boise. Excuse me. Would have had smu.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, no.

[Myron Metcalf]

Would that have been better?

[Unknown Speaker]

No. No. But you're messing up the seating. Arizona State and Boise state go to 3 and 4 because of the automatic buys granted to the top four conference champions. My thing is. That's the issue is what I'm saying.

[Myron Metcalf]

Why is that an issue? Do you think these games would have been better if Boise and Arizona State was playing in them?

[Unknown Speaker]

They've been just as bad. I think it would have been a different perspective if they were playing in them. I think people would have said, okay, this is an opening round where you can see, okay, there may be a gap between the Boise states and whoever they're playing. It wouldn't be all this backlash against Indiana and SMU that I think that you saw.

[Myron Metcalf]

Indiana, smu. The backlash for Indiana and SMU is that they were in it. Let's be. I mean that was. It's that they're in it. And there's two problems for Indian smu. One, in our minds they're not traditional powers. And college football, more than any other sport has a bias towards traditional powers. I'm guilty of it too. But you know why they have a bias? Because it's also true those programs are better. Alabama. Let me go so far as with SMU and Indiana and this is going to make people mad, but it's true. Here's who in the SEC would have beaten Indiana and smu? All the three teams that made the playoff would have. Also Alabama would have beat him. Ole Miss would have beat them. South Carolina would have beat them. Because I watched these games. Indiana. Look, I think Indiana has what cases Indiana made. Let me ask you take a Twitter line seriously. You're talking about a chat. Indiana. Tell me one point of information that suggest Indiana can beat anyone. Good. Give me the example based on what win.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, but they lost to the same Ohio State team that just.

[Myron Metcalf]

They didn't just lose, they got Tennessee.

[Unknown Speaker]

But I mean if you're saying a one loss team in the Big Ten that played everybody on the schedule beat everybody but the team that just beat Tennessee.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's not what I said. I didn't say they didn't want to be there.

[Unknown Speaker]

But let's do Texas then. But let's do Texas.

[Myron Metcalf]

Texas showed us.

[Unknown Speaker]

Let's do Texas.

[Myron Metcalf]

Clemson last night.

[Unknown Speaker]

Okay. But going into the playoff, though, if we're talking about that conversation, Texas had two losses to Georgia and there was not one against a currently ranked team. They don't have one win. So, I mean, we can do this about all these teams if we want to. I just don't think it's fair to say, oh, Alabama definitely would have won. Well, why didn't they beat Oklahoma then? Oh, Ole Miss definitely would have been a better.

[Myron Metcalf]

Just to answer your question on Texas real quick, I'm looking at the Texas, Texas schedule. They beat Oklahoma 49 to nothing. Who beat Alabama? They beat an Iowa State team that nearly won the Big 12. They ended up fast forward here. They end up beating Texas A and M. Like, why wouldn't I believe in them? Indiana didn't beat anybody. I just think it's very important to remember now. It's not their fault. They played who their schedule suggested they play, but they didn't beat anyone. And so I was not surprised by the Indiana result. I was not surprised by the SMU result. I was a little surprised by the Tennessee result. I was surprised he got run off the field. But that's what happens. At least they got a chance to play in the game. Alabama, bottom line, Penn State beat SMU 38 to 10. They ain't beating Alabama 38 to 10. They're just not. They might have won the game, but it wouldn't have been 38.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I just think a true seating would change a lot of this and we would have had more equality and fairness sort of in those opening round games, teams have been closer. But if you put. If you're going to say the top four conference champions get the buy, that's the problem. It's that issue. All the.

[Myron Metcalf]

All that would have happened is we would have watched Boise State and SMU get blown out instead of smu. If we did it your way, I think all four games would have been a blowout. SMU would have been blown out, Indiana would have been blown out, Arizona State would have been blown out, and Boise would have been blown out.

[Unknown Speaker]

I think it would have been a different conversation, much like the NCAA tournament where if there were blobs, let's say we wouldn't be talking about it like, oh my goodness, we left three deserving teams out of the field.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I think that's what they're saying.

[Unknown Speaker]

In the chat, man.

[Myron Metcalf]

People would have still said Alabama would have been better than those teams because it was.

[Unknown Speaker]

But they're lying this year. Alabama wasn't better this year. They couldn't beat Oklahoma, Alab, Alabama and.

[Myron Metcalf]

Indiana on a neutral field tomorrow. Who you got?

[Unknown Speaker]

I don't, I don't know. But, but I know Alabama didn't do what they had to do.

[Myron Metcalf]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Myron Metcalf]

By the way, ESPN Radio remember you can text 772-774-5254. That's our definition of the live chat. One person writes, I'm not trying to snitch on Myron. Only illegal streams of fight have a live chat.

[Unknown Speaker]

Wait a minute.

[Myron Metcalf]

If you had a chat normally, if you don't Normally it doesn't come with the chat.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, I had a. I don't. I click. I had like access to it. That's all I can tell. I did have access to it.

[Myron Metcalf]

So you had illegal.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, I was not. I've never. I always pay that.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, no, but when you pay it come with a chat when I did. Mine does not just show.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm telling you. Mine came with a chat.

[Myron Metcalf]

You're saying you bought the fight from HBO or whoever?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, it came with.

[Myron Metcalf]

They gave you a chat.

[Unknown Speaker]

I was in a chat. I don't. I'm telling you. It was the first time it happened for me too.

[Myron Metcalf]

On your computer or on your computer?

[Unknown Speaker]

I was on my computer. I jumped into a chat.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. So instead of watching the fight on tv, you just happened to decide, I have this massive TV in my house. I'm going to watch the fight on my little laptop that I'm looking at right now. You watched it illegally? Just, brother.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, I didn't. I'm in Utah, by the way. I'm in Utah. I didn't have my normal stuff. See, I watched.

[Myron Metcalf]

Admit it.

[Unknown Speaker]

You, you, you, you did not, man. It said, do you want to enter the fan did not say, do you.

[Myron Metcalf]

Want to enter the chat? A major sporting event does not ask you if you want to enter the chat. You are just lying. You got an illegal street.

[Unknown Speaker]

I had to.

[Myron Metcalf]

I had to put some money. Let's go to Brianna and Indy.

[Unknown Speaker]

Save your boy.

[Myron Metcalf]

Save your boy.

[Unknown Speaker]

Didn't cheat.

[Brianna]

I don't know if I can save him. And I would.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, I didn't do it. Brianna, it's not what you think.

[Brianna]

I mean, Myron, we're friends. Like this is hard, but anyway. Okay, I do want to say Myron is tight on the seating part. Here's the thing. And I'm from Indiana. I'm a IU fan and a Notre Dame fan.

[Myron Metcalf]

So Friday was a mess, but whoa.

[Brianna]

I believe that Arizona State, Boise State should not have had by. I think the games would have been more competitive if say, IU was playing Arizona State or IU was playing Boise State. Notre Dame. I know the non conference people are going to lose their crap, but I think they should have had a buy. I also think either Penn State or Texas should have had a buy.

[Myron Metcalf]

We're going to have to throw the window. Nobody wants to watch Indiana play Arizona.

[Unknown Speaker]

What does that mean? They earned their way.

[Myron Metcalf]

If Indiana was playing Arizona State, Myron would be in his fighting live chat. He would not even watch the game.

[Unknown Speaker]

I mean, no it would be like the tournament. I would be like, that's an honest.

[Myron Metcalf]

Indiana is. And this is no offense to Indiana, because listen, as a Keggy fan, I would give anything to have had Indiana season. But no one cares about Indiana football. The reason Indiana Notre Dame mattered is because of Notre Dame. Brianna. Right?

[Unknown Speaker]

What?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, don't you think no one cares about Indiana football?

[Unknown Speaker]

What does that even mean? Of course people care.

[Brianna]

No, they do. We do care now.

[Myron Metcalf]

Because first of all, your fan base only started caring this year. Like you're like, you guys had the smallest fan base of anyone in college football for big programs.

[Brianna]

You are just salty.

[Myron Metcalf]

Because Kentucky basketball, what we did, that's what it is.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's what it is. She got you. What does that mean?

[Myron Metcalf]

Arizona State.

[Unknown Speaker]

But what is more.

[Myron Metcalf]

More competitive game, maybe. But I just want you to imagine if I told you, Myron, tonight, college football play.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's not how it works.

[Myron Metcalf]

Indiana, Arizona State. Do you think anyone would care?

[Unknown Speaker]

Why do you talk about sports like you're building a music festival or something, man?

[Myron Metcalf]

Because that's how I look at it.

[Unknown Speaker]

But that's not how it is.

[Myron Metcalf]

People that put the playoff together.

[Unknown Speaker]

This is not Jolly Raleigh or. What's that big music. Lollapalooza, I called it.

[Myron Metcalf]

This is entertainment. At the end of the day, this is entertainment. And we forget that sometimes and we try to provide rational argument to what is essentially an entertainment event.

[Unknown Speaker]

But why don't we do this in the NCAA tournament with 68 teams where we never have these conversations?

[Myron Metcalf]

Because in the NCAA tournament, the beauty of it is that Oakland can beat Kentucky. That's the beauty. People don't see Indiana as Oakland. It's still a major university with major resources. It's just not as interesting.

[Unknown Speaker]

But I think a lot of that is just because it's all so new. We haven't seen enough of this playoff to get some of the upsets that we will get over time. But I agree with Brianna. What you called and said about. I think you have to take away this automatic buy and top four seed to the conference champions. Boise State and Arizona State shouldn't be 3 and 4. They're not the third and fourth best team in. In the field.

[Myron Metcalf]

And if you make them, it wouldn't have made any. It wouldn't have made yesterday's games any more fun to watch them.

[Unknown Speaker]

I think it would have. Some of those games could have been closer.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think potentially Brad in Missouri. Go ahead, Brad.

[Brad]

Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. I just would like to compare this in A little way to March Madness. You know, March Madness is enjoyable because there's a chance for Cinderella's. Now, I know we're talking about a lot smaller scale in the playoff bracket for football, but you still have to have Cinderellas. And if they earn the right, they got to be there. And it's easy to talk the way you guys are talking today when the teams lost the way they did last night. However, had one of those teams won, this whole conversation would have been different. And I think if you take that away. What the argument, it seems like you all are Ryan or whoever. I just, I. I want to say we. I enjoy March Madness thoroughly. And when my team.

[Myron Metcalf]

There's a difference, though. There's a difference. Well, here's what's tough for college football when it comes to Cinderellas. You're exactly right. March Madness Cinderellas are great, but Oakland, St. Peter's fairly Dickinson. Those are Cinderellas. It's hard to convince people that the major university of a large state, or in SMU's case, the richest school in the United States, it is hard to convince them that that is a Cinderella. I can be convinced fairly. Dickinson is a Cinderella. It's harder for me. For you to convince me that Indiana is a Cinderella. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

I think the bigger thing is that he didn't even try with my name. Who's Ryan? I don't know who he was talking about. Is that a different show? And then see you.

[Myron Metcalf]

But you make it.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, but. But you make it so that people think we're making the same points and we're not.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm actually a different point because I want you to get a chance to say this. Ricky Henderson, one of the great baseball players of all time. Stolen base king. He passed away. And am I right? He was like your favorite player.

[Unknown Speaker]

My favorite player growing up at a Ricky Henderson baseball card that I actually got. We used to trade cards at lunch. We would like go into this little spot and I landed a Ricky Henderson rookie card that's probably still somewhere in my mom's house. But the greatest man, the greatest personality, you know, he had it all that you wanted in a baseball start. If you talk to people out in the Oakland area, that dude is a superhero, you know, so gone too soon. 65, but love Ricky Henderson, man. So, yeah, definitely rest in peace.

[Myron Metcalf]

25 years. It's an amazing thing for a guy who's a Speedster to play 25 years. Played for nine teams and he retired as the all time stolen base leader and the all time runs scored leader. He also would always call himself in the third person. Yes.

[Unknown Speaker]

What do you think about that?

[Myron Metcalf]

I like it. I mean, you have to be a certain kind of.

[Unknown Speaker]

You got to be good. You got to be good enough to pull that. Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

You can't just go, you know, or. But he would call himself, you know, he'd say, Ricky thinks, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'd love to be able to do that. I don't think I can say, you know, Matt thinks this playoff, blah, blah, blah. But. But Ricky was able to pull it off.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, that was an old school thing too. I think maybe it'd be harder today. But yeah, I love Ricky Henderson. Rest in peace.

[Myron Metcalf]

Iconic moment of him is him pulling that base out of the ground when he steals it and holding it up over his head. So rest in peace to. To Ricky Henderson. Now, there were two NFL games yesterday. We need to talk about those. We still got some people on here who want to tell Myron that he didn't actually get the boxing pay per view because the chat doesn't get brought to you at that moment. I will do it all next here on ESPN Race.

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Myron Metcalf]

A happy and healthy holiday season and Happy New Year.

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Myron Metcalf]

Okay? All right, bye. It's kind of kick off here on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance, Matt Jones, Meyer, Metcalf, Otis. Wait, so did you. You told our producers, right, you wanted Christmas music today, but you only wanted black Christmas music?

[Unknown Speaker]

I just wanted y'all to sprinkle it in because there was a lot of that, like.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I think you said is you just wanted only.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, not all, but we've been playing a lot of like it's a jolly day holiday, you know, we've been playing that stuff. You know, like, let's play like y. Y'all always. Y'all songs are always like, everyone's sitting around the fire and you're. You're holding hands. That was Otis. That was Otis. Ready.

[Myron Metcalf]

But what was the song?

[Unknown Speaker]

Merry Christmas, baby. Merry Christmas, baby.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's also. Lets everybody sitting around. You're just holding.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, no, it is. It's just a little different. Different vibe.

[Myron Metcalf]

So it is the. It is my Metcalf. Black Christmas.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm just saying some of these songs.

[Unknown Speaker]

Some of the songs they play are like holiday, you know, like those.

[Myron Metcalf]

You know what else it sounds like you sing that music better than I've ever heard you sing anything else. Yesterday, four of the best teams in the AFC went at each other. Neither result a shock. Both home teams won. The Chiefs beat the Texans 27 19. The Ravens beat the Steelers 34 17. For the Chiefs, even though it was yet another one score win, it was a game I felt like they were in control of the vast majority of the time. I think they led the entire game actually for them, kind of a pretty convincing performance. And then the Ravens sort of showcased, hey, we are still. When we hit our gear on another level from Pittsburgh, that's how I saw that one. How did you see those two games?

[Unknown Speaker]

I saw it as. I think our talk about the Steelers as maybe a Super bowl sleeper was premature.

[Myron Metcalf]

Your talk, I never believed.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, but I mean, but there was a conversation happening, right? So I thought that was probably premature. We do see what the Ravens can be. The question is, can they be that when it matters? I think we got to get over the Lamar Jackson narrative. That's about what he wasn't supposed to be. The doubters in college, all that. Like, he's already silenced all Those goofballs, right? Two MVPs. One of the best quarterbacks we've ever seen just broke the Ravens passing record for touchdowns. We know what he is, but now we got to compare him to the Josh Allens and Mahomes is and say, listen, man, you gotta go get a ring if you want to be legendary.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, Josh Allen hadn't won anything either, so I think that.

[Unknown Speaker]

But yeah, but we measure him like that. We should measure them both the same way in terms of. They're fighting for that same.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, to me they're along with Burrow. They're on. Those are the next three. Right. To me, Mahomes is clearly another level. And it's in part another level because I watch a game like yesterday and there's never a minute that I think they're going to lose at any point in the game. Like he's. Even when it was 2019 and they tie and they have a chance to tie. Unfortunately, Tank Dell gets, gets bad. That was, that was a very sad scene. I haven't seen a player cry like Stroud did in a long time. So I hope. Have we heard an update on him?

[Unknown Speaker]

He's in the hospital. That's all I know. He's in the hospital. He's in the hospital right now.

[Myron Metcalf]

Injury.

[Unknown Speaker]

The phrasing is a significant injury. He is in a hospital, a local hospital right now.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Well, man, I hate to hear that. But, but besides that, that situation, I'm not sure that I, you know, I think Lamar is in. Is. Is in that group. But Mahomes is clearly on another level.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, my homes is on another level and has been. I don't know. He's not out playing Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen right now. I mean, if it's just this year, they're out playing Patrick Mahomes. But I think people still pick Kansas City to win it, to win it all again. They're gonna have the number one seed. NFL history. It's never been done. I do think these one score games are going to catch up to them at some point, but has never been done.

[Myron Metcalf]

By the way.

[Unknown Speaker]

Three consecutive Super 3.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes. Okay. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

So, I mean, that, that would be NFL history. I think Lamar, what we saw was, to your point, when they're rolling, man, they're just hard to stop. But like, why when they have their letdown moments, do they look so bad? Like, I think the team we saw yesterday can win a Super Bowl. I just don't know how many times we'll see that Ravens team in the postseason. But if we do see that group, they can be Kansas City, Buffalo, you name it. And if they fall short, I don't know what that means for Lamar because to me, when are you going to get another shot at Mahomes with a team that doesn't look like the dominant force we've seen in past years? You Got it. Last year you were the one seed. They came to your house. You couldn't pull it off. You're not going to get many more opportunities to get Mahomes in this situation.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, honestly, last year was the year to get them because I think they might even be better this year than they were last year. Even though the games have been close. Tank Dell, by the way, it looks like reports this morning dislocated kneecaps, which. That sounds awful but also scary. Why? I mean it is scary, but that actually made me feel better that it would was something maybe much worse.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, you don't know what that all entails. I mean, if you go back, you know, Teddy Bridgewater dislocated. I mean, so like that it can be other things that make his recovery a lot more complicated. I'm not a doctor. I hope he's good, but that's a very scary injury. You don't see many guys get transported to the hospital.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, you don't. That, that is. Yeah. For a leg injury. That's. That's a lot. Let's go back on the. The Steelers for a second. I. It had kind of become a thing for people to say, well, Pittsburgh is my sleeper super bowl team. They're this through that I have thought even though their record has been great. I mean I would if to me, Mike Tomlins second and coach of the year at this point, I still don't consider them on the level of what I consider maybe the five to six best teams. Chiefs, Bills, Lions, Eagles, maybe even I put the Ravens in there. I put the Steelers behind all them. Do you still think there's a chance they can get to that level or is this just like, look, this is a really good performance by. By Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. But they're not a contender.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, it's not possible for them to be a contender because they don't have an elite quarterback. Like, it's not complicated. Like, if you want to know who's going to compete for a Super bowl in this era, look for the hall of Fame quarterback. Now Russell Wilson will be I think, but this version of Russell Wilson, Sam.

[Myron Metcalf]

Darnold in Minnesota can compete. I mean, I think. I actually think the case for a Minnesota is better now than it's ever been with the Lions being very injured. And you know, you could see Minnesota winning a road game in Philly.

[Unknown Speaker]

I mean they're still in the one seed conversation. Depends on what happens the next three days.

[Myron Metcalf]

But he. But Sam Dardle's not an elite hall of Famer quarterback.

[Unknown Speaker]

But I think when it comes to getting to the super bowl, which non hall of Fame guys have gotten there but winning, it just doesn't happen in the modern era.

[Myron Metcalf]

Not put the Vikings as a Super bowl because.

[Unknown Speaker]

Because of Sam Donald. I wouldn't say that they're a Super bowl team. Like at some point catches up to you.

[Myron Metcalf]

Do we just say it? I mean I almost feel like at this point the amount of teams that can win the super bowl for me is probably just four. It is probably Chiefs, Bills, Lions, Eagles, that's my group. And then the Ravens. If we got to see regular season Ravens, I could put them there, but I don't think we will. But in terms of teams that went can win the super bowl, aren't those like the only four?

[Unknown Speaker]

Those are probably the four. But I wouldn't be mad if you said it was Chiefs, Ravens, Bills. You know, I mean to me, do.

[Myron Metcalf]

You think you could even take that you would even take the Eagles out and the Lions some one of those teams are going to be in it.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I mean the Lions are kind of falling apart health wise. Right? I mean the Dave Montgomery torn MCL is a big lost.

[Myron Metcalf]

They just keep losing Bills against the field. I give you Chiefs, Bills, I get everyone else. Would you take.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, no, I wouldn't take. Would I take Chiefs, Bills, Ravens maybe? I mean an NFC team will probably be the Eagles at this point. The way they look, do I think the Eagles could be competitive with an AFC team? I don't know. Jalen Hurts had a big game last game but like he hasn't had enough of those. He hasn't had enough of performances. Where you go, okay, Jalen carried the Eagles to a big win and I think you have to do that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Let me give you what super bowl odds are right now. Yeah, the super bowl odds. The Lions are 20% chance to win, Bills 14, Chiefs 13. I think that's too low for Chiefs and bills. Ravens 11. Eagles 11. So they basically have the Bills, the Chiefs, the Eagles and the Ravens bunched together with the Lions six percentage points ahead of that. Does that surprise you?

[Unknown Speaker]

It does. Especially with the injuries. You know what I mean? Like the injuries have been significant for the Lions. We'll see how they play the next three games. Again the Eagles have finished strong. That matters a lot. I think Jalen hurts. That's.

[Myron Metcalf]

How about this? Let's do this as our bet. Give me Bills, Chiefs, you take everybody else, you get the field. Oh, I get the Bills and Chiefs.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, yeah. But I want the Bill I want Bills. I'm sorry, you don't get.

[Myron Metcalf]

You don't get everything. You either get the field or the Bills and Chiefs, which you literally just.

[Unknown Speaker]

Made up this bet 30 seconds ago.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm giving you either the field or the Bills and Chiefs. I'll even let you choose which one you want if you're so smart. I asked you a minute ago if you wanted the Bills and Chiefs. You said no. So I will take the Bills and Chiefs, you take the field and we'll make that our super bowl bet.

[Unknown Speaker]

Okay, I will take Bills and Chiefs if you give me the Ravens too.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, because then you get the other afc. You get. You think it's just nfc, afc and the AFC is better. I'm asking you, do you want the Bills and Chiefs and you have everyone else or not?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I'll take the field. I take the field.

[Myron Metcalf]

So I'm going to take Bills and Chiefs. He takes the field. I am going to win because the winner is going. The Bills and Chiefs are going to play each other probably in round two of the. Excuse me, in the AFC Championship. It looks like it's going to be in Kansas City and the winner of that game is going to win Super. And that's just.

[Unknown Speaker]

I don't think an NFC team can beat. An AFC team, will beat an AFC team in the Super Bowl. I don't care who it is.

[Myron Metcalf]

And that's why. That's why I'm going to win. ESPN Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. At least I think it is. Yes, it is. This so is counted. Progressive Insurance is helping to drive veterans lives forward through their keys to the Progress program. We got a lot of games today to get into as well. We'll get through all of them, including the most interesting one that happens at 1:00. That's next here on ESPN Radio.

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[Myron Metcalf]

Touchdown Detroit.

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[Myron Metcalf]

I know Myron's excited about this. He's been plotting this moment for years. Not Stevie Wonder, but the topic it's getting. At the kickoff on ESPN radio, Dr. Pepper, call in line 888, say ESPN. You really have always hated Kirk Cousins. You hated Kirk Cousins. No, I think. I honestly think you went into his freshman dormitory at Michigan State and just started talking to him about how much you disliked it. Because you've had Kirk Cousins anger for a long time. You've always believed he wasn't as good as everybody else thought he was. And you said when he signed with the Falcons, just wait. He started out well with the Falcons, looked like he was going to be pretty good. But now, this week, his divorce is expected to be finalized before his $10 million roster bonus is due March 17. He's been benched for Michael Penix Jr. Even though the Falcons are still, still definitely in a playoff race, they are bitching their starter for a rookie. When you heard the news, Myron, what were your thoughts?

[Unknown Speaker]

It's a burden to be this right sometimes, you know, like it's. I don't want to be, you know, I don't want to have to carry that with me. But I have to. Someone has to. I'll start with a number that's not the actual $90,294.5 million. Do you know what that number is?

[Myron Metcalf]

I do not.

[Unknown Speaker]

That is the amount of money Kirk Cousins has made in his career. Yeah, 200. And you want to know how much the mannings made? About 220.

[Myron Metcalf]

Going back. I mean, what did Johnny unit is made. I mean, it's a different. It's a different. It's a different time.

[Unknown Speaker]

But he has been a legal bank robber when it comes to contracts. Right. Like, he knows how to convince people that he's going to take them to the promised land, but he never gets you there. Like, you can always See paradise from the cruise ship with Kirk Cousins, but you ain't never gonna get there because he just doesn't have that in him. Fine. The Falcons are the ones that look the worst in this situation. Not Kirk Cousins though. In my opinion, Terry Fontenot, I think that's their GM, might be the worst GM in sports. You go and sign Kirk Cousins with $180 million contract, $100 million guaranteed. You decide you're not sure about Kirk Cousins, so you go and draft Michael Penix Jr. And you don't even tell Kirk Cousins about it until draft night. And then on top of it, you've given Kirk Cousins a no trade clause. Are you. What's wrong with you as a franchise? You signed him and gave him 100 million guaranteed. He has a no trade clause so he can control his fate. And then you go out and get Mike Michael Penix Jr. It is a disaster of an organization and I think this is all on Terry Fontenot's shoulders. Maybe Michael Penix Jr. Is amazing, right? Maybe we find out he is one of the better quarterbacks in this class and he'll show a lot of spark in these last three games. But guess what? Getting rid of Kirk Cousins is going to cost you $65 million against your cap. So it's going to be harder to surround Michael Penix Jr. With talent. The Falcons to me are the ones we should be criticizing more than Kirk Cousins who just accepted guaranteed money like anybody else. But we all knew what he was. The Falcons thought they were smarter than everybody and clearly they're not.

[Myron Metcalf]

I am really, really surprised that they would do it at this point. I mean, they're only a game out of the playoffs, right? They play today. Let's see, they play the Falcons, who they should be. The Bucks play the Cowboys who are playing well and could lose. So at the end of the day they could actually be tied for first place to take Cousins out. Unless Penix comes in and wins three straight. I don't know how you don't look terrible at this. If you go the end of the year with Cousins and it doesn't work out, you go, well, that didn't work out. But to switch three games left when you're only a game out of the playoffs. I'm just kind of amazed at the decision making. Maybe it works out, maybe the Falcons make the playoffs. But do we really believe that Pinnocks is going to come in having played not at all and win these last three games? Maybe it happens. If it does, credit to him. If you're going to start against the team. The Giants might be the ones to do it, but I am just really surprised they made this move at this point.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, this is job saving stuff, man. I mean this is save this job.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean what if they lose these three games?

[Unknown Speaker]

But I mean Terry Font, I mean this is, this is folks in the front office trying to save their job. We got to give Michael Pennix Jr. A chance so at least they can say they have something to build on going into the off season rather than Kirk Cousins who by the way the last five games has been terrible. I think he has nine interceptions, one touchdown during that stretch, leads the NFL with 16 interceptions. Like it has been terrible. $90 million for 14 games, like that's what he got, 18 touchdowns. So I think this is the Falcons team saying, okay, we clearly messed up on Kirk Cousins, we're not going to be able to get that back. But if we can show the world that Michael Bennett's junior Is next and he has a promising three game stretch and maybe even leads them to the playoffs, all of a sudden you look really smart, right? You saved yourself from having to rebuild after messing up the Kirk Cousins situation. But I don't think that's going to be the case. Matt. There's no way to get out of this. This is terrible no matter how you look at it. It's not just Kirk Cousins maybe being released. $65 million against your cap. His salary for next year is guaranteed at 27 and a half million. So, so let's say he ends up going to the Browns or some other team. The Falcons are gonna have to pay that money. Like no team's gonna take on Kirk Cousin.

[Myron Metcalf]

But that was, that was gonna be true whether he played this year or not. I mean I, I look the bad of part of having Kirk Cousins was done the day they signed him. There's nothing they can do about that today. I'm just talking about the, the decisions they're making today and the decision today to play Michael Penix Jr. Maybe it works, but I am just shocked that you would make it. Like if, if Kirk Cousins was playing today against the Giants, I feel like they would win that game. Now I'm not sure if they'd win another game, but I'd feel like they'd win that game. But Michael Pennix, who I've never seen play, are you 100% sure they win today with him?

[Unknown Speaker]

No, but it's the Falcons. I mean they're a mess. So I don't know. Again, I think this is people in the front office and beyond saying let's save our jobs because Kirk Cousins was on such a downward spiral.

[Myron Metcalf]

I would not. I think the. If, if you're. If signing Kirk Cousins was a fireable offense, that doesn't change with Michael Pennings. Like, like it should already have been a fireable offense. I mean, I guess that's. You're probably right. They're probably like we're going to get fired at the end of the year. But if Michael Penix is three and oh, maybe we won't. Maybe, maybe that's what the thought process is.

[Unknown Speaker]

He's a phenom. You get into the playoffs, maybe you get a lucky. I mean it is the nfc. Maybe you get some sort of favorable matchup in the opening round and now you got a chance to maybe win a game and suddenly people forget about everything that happened with Kirk Cousins and you look really smart. They did Kirk Cousins wrong. I know. I bashed Kirk Cousins a lot, Matt. He signed a guaranteed deal thinking he was going to be the franchise quarterback for the foreseeable future. And they told him on draft night that they were drafting his successor. It was a mess from the beginning, man.

[Myron Metcalf]

Maybe they, maybe they saw why. Let me ask you a question before we go to break. Have you watched any of the guy who you kind of look up to Aaron Rodgers's Netflix special.

[Unknown Speaker]

I can't. I can't. I don't. No, I haven't seen it. I don't know why I would watch it. What is. Have you seen it?

[Myron Metcalf]

I have not. I did have a friend who watched it. I have a friend who's a big Aaron Rodgers fan or was when he was a Packers quarterback and he said and this is from a guy who had his until last year and Aaron Rodgers poster in his like man's in his man cave. He said it is unfathomably bad in terms of. And the Aaron Rodgers comes off as even more of the worst than he did otherwise. There's a scene apparently where he like tries to break into Jimmy Kimmel show or something.

[Unknown Speaker]

What?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, like it gets escorted out. I haven't seen it obviously.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

But I will say this. I'm glad at the little back and forth he and Ryan Clark had because it just exposes what an absolute goober Aaron Rodgers is. There's no players downfall. I've enjoyed watching more than watching Aaron Rodgers be. Be mediocre to bad this year.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, it's been a mess. Yeah, I followed the Ryan Clark thing. I will say it's Funny, when people talk on Twitter like they see tv. Ryan Clark, I don't know if y'all watched that dude play, but that, that's not a dude you want to cross. Like, I don't know if anyone's seen the highlights. On another note, though, Matt, like, what is Aaron Riders doing after football? Like, what is not doing Media.

[Myron Metcalf]

He better hope McAfee has another chair because that's the only place where he, where anybody will welcome him. I mean, I have a little, you know, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this or not, but I will. I have a little thing. If you meet anyone in the year 2025 and I don't care what side of the debate they were on, within 10 seconds they start talking about vaccines. I'm done being your friend. All right, man. It's like Aaron, move on, dude. Move on. And he is not the kind of guy that's moving on. And you're right, he has ruined what could have been an amazing post football career for him. He's completely ruined it. Someone who hasn't ruined their career is Sam Darnold. Can he take the Vikings to a Super Bowl? Myron thinks yes. That's next. Hey, it's Evan Cohen from Unsportsmanlike and.

[Unknown Speaker]

I just wanted to wish everyone a.

[Myron Metcalf]

Happy and healthy holiday and a happy New Year. And a reminder to tune into Unsportsmanlike every weekday morning at 6am Eastern right here on ESPN Radio, ESPN2 and ESPNU.

[Matt Jones]

Thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the Podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10am Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, and on SiriusXM Channel 80. Matt and Myron the Podcast when it.

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[Myron Metcalf]

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