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Matt and Myron, the podcast that was the one time in the history of Matt Myron that Myron was actually correct on a random fact that he has said. And so I'll give him credit. One time he was right on about Brussels, Belgium and Brussels sprouts. It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. You can catch us on Disney plus you could get it on ESPN Radio, Sirius XM app. Myron, it is a terrible, stormy day here. You may hear the lightning and the thunder, but we're still bringing it. Day three of our show. Nice to see it.
C
We got on air, man. Like, I don't know if people know everything that happens before these shows, but
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these shows are unbelievable, a little dicey. I mean, if you, you know, no one out there can see. But when you are trying to put a TV studio in a house in Kentucky and a house in Minnesota with two people that have no technical ability, it is quite a thing. And the lightning and thunder are blanketing my eyes outside. But you know what? I'm here with you and we're ready to go on a day that actually has a ton of news. But Myron, most importantly, you have an update on a story from yesterday. We played Nat the arguably one of the best national anthems of all time. Yesterday, the three ladies at the International Women's Baseball League opener. And what is your update for us today?
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Well, Martha Reeves is the singer who actually had a singing career back in the 50s and 60s. Someone shot a video before the anthem and she was yelling at her background singers before it even started. And at one point, as they're doing sound check, she says with the background singer sitting right there, and I don't think I need them. Like, she is literally going at the background singers.
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She said she didn't need them.
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And they're standing next to her. She's looking at someone and she says, I don't think I need them. As if they don't exist. It made me realize, Matt, I don't know what the age is. I think for me, I think it's about 62 people hit a certain age and they say whatever they want. Like there's just. There's just no filter. There's no sense of. Okay, maybe I shouldn't say that because she was talking about her background singers next to her and she said, I don't think I need them.
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But I actually think she was right. I'm not sure that she was a great performer, but I don't think her background singers needed either. For those of you that didn't hear yesterday, James, do we have a little clip of the. Of. Of a little bit of the anthem yesterday that we ended our show with?
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Yeah, yeah, we have it done. This is. Let's play the end of it. So.
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All right. This is the end. O' er the land of the free and the home of the brave. There you go. So clearly in the way she performed that ending. Did not think she needed the background singers because she basically sang before that they. They could get going. But not the best performance. I will say for Martha, she might have needed help. Maybe just not those background singers.
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I mean, you can't sing in P flat and then say you don't need a little help. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what note that was like.
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I think she invented that. Is P flat actually one of the scales? I didn't know that. Well, she did quite a job. She's a legend and that's okay. Matt Myers. Presented by Progressive Insurance. You can round out your protection with Live PH and pet health insurance. It is now time to go off the top. What are we thinking about? I'm trying to think but nothing happens. Nothing happens. Time to find out.
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This is off the top.
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Flash off the top with Matt and Myron. Now if you've listened to the first two days of Matt Meyer, one thing that has been clear is that the Milwaukee ness in Myron Metcalf has come out specifically and how much he hates the L A Dodgers. And last night Skubal made his debut for the Dodgers against Cub pitched Cubs pitched very well but still ended up losing the game and the Dodgers ended up falling 5 to 1. But after it was over, Skuball said it is my job to go out there and compete what I can do to put my team in the postseason to win a ball game. That's all I asked myself. He said he was not worried about the Dodgers being some sort of villain. So I asked you, do you believe in baseball this year, Myron, that the LA Dodgers are a villain? And if so, is that A bad thing.
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The worst villain, I think, in sports. And for Tara to say that, you know, I just want to pitch and get my team at the. To the postseason. As if they needed him. Like, he's Rudy now. Like, this is a Disney movie all of a sudden. What is he talking about? Like, he knows exactly what he was doing when he joined the dark side. I'll say. And the Dodgers and the criticism that would come with that. He made it seem like it wasn't a big deal. But of course it is for an all star pitcher to join a team that is already in a position to win a World Series. So again, I can't respect anybody that suddenly becomes a Dodgers fan. Like, if you've been on board for years, fine. But any new Dodgers fans, how can you support what is, to me, destroying the sport?
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But see, I. I think sports and life is better with a great villain. Okay? So in my opinion, having a villain helps virtually any athletic sport. So the Dodgers being a villain, in my opinion, is exactly what baseball needs. Let's take last year. Let's say that you have a World Series without the Dodgers. You had America rooting for a Canadian team. Last year in the Blue Blue Jays, you had America rallying around a Canadian team against the Dodgers. Because there's this narrative of a villain. You go back through sports. Take the Pistons of the bad boy era, take the Patriots with Tom Brady. Aren't sports just better with a villain? We don't have to like every single team. And I think having this like super friends group of villains go up against the rest of the league also sort of challenge the whole nature of there being competitiveness. Isn't that good. You and I come from college sports where having a villain is the best thing you can have.
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Yeah, no, I. I do think it's good in terms of the spotlight on the sport. I think you're right about that. The difference in those teams. If you talk about the Patriots, Brady was drafted. He became the greatest of all time. All right. The warriors were villains for some people. Those were players who are drafted. This is a group that was essentially assembled because the team spent more money than anybody else and no one else can compete financially. Shohei didn't come up, you know, from the farm system with the Dodgers, and now suddenly he's a star. They went out and got these guys, and now they're adding another elite pitcher to their rotation. It doesn't feel fair. So it's one thing to root against the villain. It's one thing to root against the team. That always seems to be in the hunt for a championship. This feels like something that should be against the rules. And I think that's why everybody's so up in arms about it.
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Well, I can tell you one person who doesn't agree with you and that is SKU Ball himself. He said, quote, every team could have traded for me. Every team could have made the acquisition. And I don't really sympathize with people that blame the Dodgers for anything they've done. I mean, that is a pretty villain esque statement, right? Anyone could have done this. This team did it. So shut up and eat it. I actually think that is a pretty good thing for a villain to say.
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He sounds like one of those self help authors who gets a million dollars from their parents and says anybody could have done it. What is he talking about? As a matter of fact, that's not accurate. I know everyone's saying that anyone could have gone out and gotten Tarek. The reality is they knew they couldn't pay him. So you don't want to rent him. So you don't want to sign a guy.
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I mean, there are people that do. There are teams that do that every year. There are teams that go get a player. They have a very good sense that they may not be able to resign them. And they do. I mean, you look at the prospects the Dodgers gave away, they gave away, I think the 40th ranked prospect and like the 89th ranked prospect. There's a lot of teams that could have done something like that. Now, is it easier for the Dodgers to do it? Without question. But your brewers could have done it. I mean, is it not worth it for the one World Series that you all never win? I, I do think he's kind of right. Not everybody.
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Don't do that stuff.
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Why not?
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Don't do that. Don't say the World Series, you'll never win. Don't say. Don't do that stuff. Well, you're not going to win.
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Lucky Brewers. You're not going to win the World Series.
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Says who? No, we're on our. Well, listen, if you put all the fair teams in a pool, if you say everybody playing by the rules gets to compete, fine. If the teams that are against the rules, no, we can't compete against that because of what you're witnessing here. I think again, you're gonna have to pay him $400 million or more. So if you want to have a chance to keep him long term, that has to factor into whether or not you trade for him. So him saying Anyone could have done this. Well, not anybody who wanted him long term could have done this.
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Well, let's do a bigger picture thing then. And 888 say ESPN, do you believe villains are good in sports? And if so, what are some of the best villains? I really enjoy rooting against teams. Let's go back to when I was a kid rooting against Andre the Giant, right. Or in. Or Sergeant Slaughter or pick your bad guy of the time.
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Bad News Brown.
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Well, Bad News Brown. That was a very short period of time. But pick your. Your pick your villain.
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I remember it.
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You know, Dennis Rodman was a villain to some throughout the. You go look in college basketball. Duke was a big villain for many in the. In the 90s with the Christian Lightner era. I think in college football at various times Notre Dame has been a villain. Some people saw Alabama like that. Generally speaking, I think that's good. Who do you think are some of the villains888 say ESPN that you have rooted for over the years?
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Yeah, you know, I mean I usually root against the Villains because I come from a small market city. So I think when you come from a Milwaukee, when you come from one of those places, you're always the underdog. So I tend to root for the underdogs. But I do see the value in the Villains. The nwo. If we're gonna talk about wrestling greatest villain.
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Well, now wait a minute. Those were guys and stone cold Steve Austin was like this. That were villains that became. Actually, we love them because they were so positive. I will tell you, as a Kentucky fan, there was a period of years there with John Calperi when his arrogance and sort of his swagger made a lot of the country hate Kentucky. And I enjoyed it. He used to say, we will come into your city and beat your team and then get on the plane and go home. I liked that. I think college sports need it and I think the Dodgers are going to be that this year. I am much more likely to tune into a World Series. I hate to break your heart. We where the Dodgers are playing against a team from the American L League than I am with the Milwaukee brewers. And I think most of America will be like that as well.
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But. But if that's the case, right, if that's how you feel, just know that hurts the longevity of the sport.
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It does. Now that I understand. But in the short term, I don't think it's a bad thing. You can't have a team that wi. Like you don't want to have a situation like you have in European soccer where like Barcelona or Real Madrid win every single year in their league. I don't think you want that, Myron. But in a short time frame, I don't think it's bad.
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But I mean, we're talking about the longevity of the sport. Like, we're talking about a sport that is competing against major sports around the country. And I think baseball has had a pretty good two to three year run. There are a bunch of stars in this league. I think the pitch count has changed the pace of play. I think baseball is really exciting right now. Why mess it up with this? Because if people don't feel like they can be a. They can come to the party, they're not going to watch. And as a Brewers fan, as someone who has been subjected to this for decades, why am I supposed to be excited about this? Like, why am I supposed to feel like if the brewers face the Dodgers again in the National League, that there's a fairness element to that? And if that's the case, then I'm tuned out as a casual fan and that's not good for the sport.
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Well, we got some people on the phone that disagree with you, Stephen. St. Louis has a different take you. Do you think Myron's kind of being a wimp here about the Dodgers?
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Nobody's telling me a wimp but you.
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Well, I mean, it's more of a system of the have and have not. The Dodgers have, the brewers have not. But the Dodgers are not doing anything that's wrong. I mean, no. Now I'm a Cardinal fan. Okay? So this is not. This is not against the Brewers.
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I need a stronger take than this. This is not. I appreciate the call, Steve. This is not a time to be unequivocal. He's sitting there going, you know, let's. Let's look at a background of baseball. The Cardinals, actually.
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No, I just.
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I need someone to tell. Steve is giving his dissertation. Yeah, not exactly what I was looking for. Julio is in Atlanta. Go ahead.
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Having coffee with Pujols. That's what he's about to do.
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Hey, how's the guy? How's it going, guys? Hey, Myron, quick question for you.
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Yeah.
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How can you explain that the Dodgers are operating with a different set of rules? Because you're saying that, you know, we're acquiring talent, but if you look at the roster, a lot of that talent is farm based or recovery projects, Right? Like Shohei.
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Wait a minute. Yeah, the Shohei Otani recovery project.
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He was down, he was struggling.
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Everyone's wondering.
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He Was barely come back. And then the Dodgers, Mookie Betts was
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not doing well when you found him.
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Freddie Freeman, poor guy, just barely able
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to hang on in baseball's $5 DVD pile. You found Mookie Betts and said, okay, Forrest Gump, maybe you have a chance to become. Is that what y' all talking about? See, this is the thing, man. This is the thing about people like Dodgers fans. They're disconnected from what everybody else deals with. So in their mind, they're like, what do you mean? We get it all. You have a chance, too. And they can't see the reality.
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Let's go to. Zach is in Santa Fe. How are things in Santa Fe? Very beautiful city if you haven't been there.
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Yeah, great, Great city.
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Absolutely. How's it going, fellas? Things are. Things are lovely out here, as usual. I just. I was gonna say, yeah, I think villains in sports is a great thing. I mean, for me, growing up in New England, that 20 year dynasty with the Patriots, everybody was tuning it. Gave everybody something to root against. And when I would walk around with my New England versus Everybody T shirt, oh, brother. There was no better feeling than that.
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Yes, you guys were the best example, because not only were you good, you cheated. You had Bill Belichick, you had Grog, you had Brady going through his midlife crisis. You had all of that going on. And I think actually that made it even better. I appreciate the call.
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You know, you are so good at compliments. And then cutting people down in the middle of a compliment, like you're very good at that. You'll praise somebody and then you'll. You'll cut them.
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Well, you had the spygate. You had deflate gate.
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Oh, there was funny business going on.
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Well, that's cheating. That's what. That's what you ended up having, Jim, in Minnesota. Go ahead, Jim. 888. Say ESPN.
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Sup, Jim?
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Gentlemen, good afternoon. I first off, want to say you have renewed my faith in the medium. I'm a long time radio listener and
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I had lost faith until it be fun, Jim. And that's what we're gonna do.
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Yes, I. You renewed my faith when I heard you Sunday morning, gut laughing. And I grew up listening to radio. A gentleman called Steve Cannon in the Midwest here who was a vaudeville act on the radio. And you have renewed it.
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But thank you very much.
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Today I'm here to call out Mr. Myron.
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Good.
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Okay, Myron, I know where you matriculated. I spent a good amount of time in Blue Earth County. Yeah, you can make the hillbilly days, my friend.
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Yes, he can do it. He can go to hillbilly days, can he not, Jim? He can show up at hillbilly days and make an appearance.
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Myron, you know what I'm talking about.
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Old Mankato. You know what? He's. He has a point. I did. I did very well on Mankato in college. I think this is a different thing, though. I don't think that's.
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We have somebody, I think, on here, Mark, in Kentucky, who specifically has hillbilly days. Now, Mark, go ahead.
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Okay.
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Yeah, man. Hey, what's happening, guys? Hey, listen, I'm a food truck operator. I'm actually in Prestonsburg, Kentucky, about 15 miles from Pikeville right now. But, Myron, if you come to hibbly days, man, you'll get some of the best food you can ever eat, my man. Tell him what you can.
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Tell me what you can eat. Tell him what you got. Tell him what you got.
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Oh, man. What I do is I do seafood boils, man. I do lobster rolls. I do Jamaican jerk platters. Listen, you know, I do vacation foods, man.
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All right, well, I appreciate a lot of different.
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Hold on, wait a minute. What's the business plan? You do seafood, Jamaican, and vacation. That's a lot of different things.
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Let me tell you something. I love Pikeville, Kentucky, but if I want seafood, I don't think inland Mountain Pikeville, Kentucky, is where I'm going to pick. We are here on day three of the Matt and Myron Show. We those of you out there have probably at some point in your life, been like me and said, you know what? I feel like I could have been a coach. I feel like I could have called a better play. Well, now you have your chance. For $75, you can coach a football team. We'll talk about it next here on Matt Myron. Matt and Myron, the podcast.
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That's right.
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Who is this?
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You can see all the obstacles in your way, but not while Matt and Myron are on from 3 to 5 every day on ESPN ESPN radio. You can follow us Matt Myron on Twitter Matt Myron on Instagram I learned that we haven't yet Myron been approved for a Tick Tock account. I don't know what that's going to take. It's interesting because I feel like every human being on earth is allowed to be on Tick Tock. But as of yet we have not been approved to be on Tick Tock. But hopefully that will come. We can earn a TikTok account.
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Yeah, I'd love to be on there. You know the kids love TikTok so they do that.
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Yeah, I've been to Akron, so I
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dated a woman from Akron, spent a lot of time there. What's the name of the burger place that LeBron always gets delivered into his.
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I know the famous.
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There's a very famous burger place there. And I've been there a few times when she and I were dating. Played the Firestone Golf Club. Well, we broke up. So I haven't been back to Akron since then.
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Okay.
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But there might be, well, there might be a reason to go to Akron.
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Akron.
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Akron has announced that a new fan promotion. If you buy Akron football season tickets this year, which are, by the way, the cheapest seats are $75. If you buy them, one lucky fan will be drawn to be offensive coordinator of the game. And you will be able to call the first series of plays in the season opener against Robert Morris. You will work with the football coach to design the plays that will open the game. And you will get the first drive for Akron as a season ticket holder. Since this has been announced, hundreds of people with no connection to Akron have bought season tickets. Myron, do you love this promotion or do you hate it?
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Genius promotion in terms of trying to get attention to the program, trying to sell tickets. Maxion. I'm all about it. You know, these are the schools that play on like Tuesday night at 5:00'. Clock. You know, if you're, if you're watching ESPN, I love it. So this is such a smart idea. Now how do you execute it? That's a different thing because I want to know how close you have to work with the actual team to call these plays.
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Well, let's talk about if you and I won because I will go ahead and tell you this tonight. I'm buying a season ticket to Akron football. $75. This is the kind of thing you can't get anywhere else, so. And if I get it, I am going to take it very seriously. So let's decide. If you were to be the person who won, how would you handle it? If you were the Akron offensive coordinator, what would you do?
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I'm passing down the field every play. Like we're going deep. So I'm, I'm throwing seam route. The goal is every receiver we have. Line them up. Let's see what happens on those first four.
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So you're not going to take it seriously, like, you're not going to actually try to score. You're just going to do crazy stuff because, like I'm going to take it seriously. I'm going to try to score. I want to be able to say, I took a team down the field to score a touchdown in a real game.
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What's not serious about that? We're going deep. That's the play. Everybody down the field. Let's see who our playmakers are. That. That's what I'm doing. I'm trying to get into the end zone, but I want big, explosive plays. I don't want to do run the ball here. Five yard out. Let's go for it. Now, here's the thing with me, Matt. You give me a headset, I'm not giving it back. Y' all can do what you want.
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I'm.
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I'm there for the game. Oh, you're not gonna pass?
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Yeah.
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You're not taking the headset. For me, if I get like a pass to walk the sideline and I've got a headset on, somebody says, hey, can you give it back? It's. I'm not giving it back.
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Let me.
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No way.
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Let me throw some wrinkles out there. First of all, let's say. So it says you will work with the coach, but you will be able to pick the plays and they will be scripted. Okay, now they're playing against Robert Morris. If you were the coach of Robert Morris, would you be angry about this?
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I think you would be. I think you would feel like they were making a bit of a mockery
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of the game because they clearly think they're going to beat you or they wouldn't do it.
C
But you also. Robert Morris, I mean, I don't know. You know, like, relax, you know, let's have some fun.
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Robert Boris beat my Kentucky Wildcats once in the nit, if you will remember, many years ago. All right, Second thing, let's say you're the real offensive coordinator on this team. No, let's say the fan scores a touchdown on his drive and then you are not able to move the football on your drives. Or is your job. If I'm the real offensive coordinator, I'm going to be kind of angry about this.
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Better get on LinkedIn, because that's not a good sign. It's already a problem that they think that somebody can maybe do your job from the stands. So, yeah, I think you should be a little. A little concerned. But again, Matt, how much flexibility and freedom do you think this winner will actually have? Like, what kind of leeway will they give them?
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Well, it says this. This is from the coach who is Joe Morehead. Basically, you know, he's had some big time jobs before. He said I'm looking forward to collaborating with the season ticket holder who wins this contest. By the way.
C
He's a lot.
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He does not want to do this. But they will. This will give our fans a behind the scenes experience that it will has been never been done before. So I'm excited to show them how to put together the opening script and see what they can do, he says, and see what they can do. It sounds like they're going to get to decide what the plays will be.
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Okay. But I tell you what, if I'm in there and I call successful plays and we get down the field, the real offensive coordinator stay over there. I got it the rest of the way. All right, I'm huddling up.
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808 say ESPN. I would like to know from you, the audience, if you won this contest, what would you do? How would you handle it? What would be the way that you would. You would make this happen? How would you have maxion occur? Are you going to buy a ticket Right now there are multiple shows that pardon my take is buying tickets. There's a streamer that has already bought 10 seasons tickets.
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I.
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His name is like Steamo or something. I don't know. Is that, is that his name James?
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I don't know.
B
Well, I don't know what streamer his names are.
C
I believe you just made it up there a guy just named Streaming. I think you just made it up.
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No, I said it wasn't stream. I think it was Steam.
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O is the guy doesn't sound real.
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You know, the Steamo sounds like an actual.
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I think you made that up.
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Well, I. There are people who have bought the season tickets. Are you going to. Is it worth $75 to you for a chance?
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Yeah, it's. It's worth 75. But again, you get me on the field, the headset's not coming back. I'm in. I'm at halftime. I'm with the team. Like I'm there the whole game.
B
I will note they're going to sell a ton of season tickets that then don't have people go to the game because I'm not going to any game. So I'm going to have a seat and I am not going to use it for this game. 888 say ESPN. Like I said, if I'm Robert Morris, I'm feeling very disrespected about this.
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Do you think that schools, by the
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way are going to have to do if not this, more of these kind of things in this new era, especially schools that are not in the major conferences in order to raise revenue.
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I think more and more schools, and we've talked about this more and more schools, I think need to pay a lot of attention to minor league baseball. And you know, you almost have to just really lean into that gimmicky approach and do whatever you can to get people interested in your team and whatever you got to do to get them to a point where they'll donate money. So I think you'll see more and more of stuff like this.
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I actually think this is genius too. I mean, there are some people who are, who are football coaches, fans, etc, that are not happy about this. But I, I totally think this is exactly what these kinds of schools need to do. And while I don't think major colleges are going to open up their, you know, they're going to open up their processes to the average fan, I think you're going to see colleges do more and more of this stuff. I mean, I can even tell you in the SEC they have things where donors can bid to stand on the sideline. As you've said during games. I've seen at least one program that had fans give the opening speech in the locker room before the game.
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This was.
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Yes, just random fans. Yes, random fans would pay for the right to give the opening speech before the game, which has to be one of the most awkward things you would ever see in sports. Joe from accounting tries to pump up the team, but I think you're going to see more programs do it.
C
I don't know. I don't know if I want Ted from the local life insurance firm hyping up my team before a big game.
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He's gonna look at him and go like, hey guys, we are going to take it and shove it right down their throats.
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How do you, how do you bring him into the locker room? Hey guys, we got a big game by hand.
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We got 10.
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Larry,
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let's go to Moose in Montana. Moose, what would you do if you got these tickets, if you got this job?
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You know, if I was, if it were my job, I'd come out of the gates and hit them with the old razzle dazzle. Start off with a Boise State Statue of Liberty maybe. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Screen, wide receiver, pass. Just hit him with everything. And then when it comes to punt, we don't punt. It's a fake.
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Oh, that's a good point. Do you punt on fourth down?
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Fake it.
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Oh, I like it, Moose. Thank you. Myron, are you punting? You're not Gonna punt. No one's punt.
C
We're never punting. We're never punting. If I. If I have the headset. Here's interesting. You know, you mentioned that Boise State. You remember that Statue of Liberty play?
B
Yeah, that everyone.
C
So I ran into that guy at Disneyland two years ago. Like, he was just walking around, and I see him across the way, and I'm like, yo, it's you, man. And he was like, oh, nobody really recognizes me. And he was impressed. So, you know, we talked.
B
You recognized who? The guy that called the play.
C
The guy who ran the touchdown in the. Boise State. Oklahoma.
B
Oh, you mean the guy who married his. His girlfriend?
C
Still. Yes, still married. The kids were there. I saw him at Disneyland.
B
And you recognized him? You recognized Boise State player.
C
Very impressed. He was very impressed that I recognized. Yes.
B
I would not have recognized him. Let's go to Jerry and Indy. Jerry.
D
Hey, guys. Oral Roberts needs to take notice because I'm sure their attendance isn't very good and they ought to try the same thing, so they should embrace this promotional thing.
B
First of all, it's not Oral Roberts. It's Robert Morris. Robert Morris was one of our founding patriots. Oral Roberts was a tele evangelist who got in trouble. So they're not exactly the same thing.
C
Names. It's a lot of name schools, though. It's hard.
D
I would take it real serious, and I would figure out what my strengths are offensively, and then I would check out with Morris, Robert Morris, and see what they're doing. You know, weaknesses are in defense, and then I go from there. But I would definitely take it serious.
B
I agree.
D
I lived in Akron. I would definitely buy, you know, season tickets.
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I agree. I'm taking it serious. This is my chance, Myron, to audition as a future coach. I am taking it very serious. I'm going to be like the Miz when he got his first wrestling trial. We're going to take more of your calls. 888, say ESPN gimmicks that you would do in order to get your college football program going. Plus, some news around the world of sports. Some big contracts being signed. That's next here on Matt and Myron. Matt and Myron, the podcast.
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C
Yeah, I never thought it was an issue With Stefan Diggs on the field, I mean, obviously off the field, he's been involved in a number of issues, but on the field, I don't think there's any question. I think maybe that's just what Jaden Daniels needs as well. Just a. Another elite receiver. Last year was interesting. You know, he went from like sort of being the phenom till he's hurt last year and year three, I think is big for him and kind of who he's going to be at this level.
B
I think it's a big year. You know, they, they have a chance. To me, they're the team with the greatest gap between ceiling and floor of all the teams in the NFC. I could see them having a big year, winning 12 games. I could see them winning five again. Right. I don't really know. I don't know what to expect from the commanders. So if Stefan Diggs can help us at all, that's great. And then Jerry Judy, he. Did you see him? He had a tick tock video in which he held up the number four up on the TikTok video with like a sly look on his face. And people interpreted it. Cause it said something like, what? I'm happy for what I'm here for. And he held up number four. And people were suggesting, they believed that it was his hint that he preferred DeSean Watson over Shador Sanders as the starter for the Browns. He clarified today and said, no, it's for my daughter. She's four years old. What is the more likely explanation that he was talking about? That he was talking about desean Watson. And then people said, why did you do that? Or that he was shouting out the age of his daughter.
C
Yeah, it's definitely Deshaun Watson. You know, like, he doesn't, he doesn't believe that. Here's my thing. Why do people do stuff like that, Matt? And then when they get called out on it, they're surprised and they got to change the story. Like, you know, if you're Jerry Judy with everything going on, putting something like that out there is just going to lead to people speculating like, why, why even do that? And also, how bad is the quarterback room in Cleveland that everyone's like, desean Watson is our best option?
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I think there's a generation of, of people, of younger people who believe that social media is not the real world. Right. Like you can just put. And to some extent they're right. But that you can be a version of yourself online and everybody just knows you're kidding. And then when that version Online translates to the real world, and people take it seriously. I think it really throws folks off. They're like, wait a minute. That was just supposed to be online. And I think that's probably what happened with Jerry Judy here.
C
It's weird. You know, I think the biggest thing if. If you're anybody in training camp, every team is like, just don't make weird headlines like your coach or you don't want to show up the next morning and someone's like, hey, did you see what your player did? It just doesn't make a lot of sense why he would do that.
B
I think it's going to be interesting in Cleveland. The locker room. People in the locker room of Cleveland, it seems like. Like Deshaun Watson more than the general public does, which is probably not that high a standard, but. But it's true. And then the fans want Shador in Cleveland and that. That sort of differential between what the people in the locker room want and maybe what the fans want. I think Myron will be something interesting to monitor throughout the course of the year.
C
They'll be interested. Yeah, that'll be one of the more interesting training camps battles that. That we'll see. Because of the buzz around both of those guys, we'll see what happens.
B
As we talked about earlier, you can, for $75, buy a season ticket at akron.75. And someone will get to be called the plays. Chuck is in Virginia. Chuck, they're playing Robert Morris. You know someone at Robert Morris?
D
Yes, I know the head football coach.
B
Okay. And how do you think he reacted to this news?
D
I don't know. I hadn't talked to him about it, but I imagine he will have his team ready to go and defend anything that Akron goes. He's a former defensive player in college, so I'm sure he'll have his defense ready to go.
B
You sound like a coach on the Robert Morris. Yeah, you do right now. Are you the Robert Morris coach? Are you sure?
D
No, I'm not, but I. I do have some high school experience with coaching.
B
Oh, he's got some high school experience. Yeah.
C
You sound like a. Yeah.
B
Well, I tell you what, here's what I would like you to do. You're in Virginia. If you can get the Robert Morris coach. Are you, like, good enough friends that you can text him?
D
Yes.
B
Why don't you text him and see if he would jump on here with us and see if he feels disrespected about the. The offensive coordinator thing. Would you do that for us?
D
I will see what I can do. Yes, sir.
B
All right, well, we. You do that and then call back. If that's true, we will give you a non existent Matt Myron swag. If that happens. There you go. I hope he enjoys it. Eric is in Atlanta. Go ahead, Eric.
D
Let me tell you this. Thank you for bringing this weekend show to the weekday. It's perfect. A drive home show for me. Thank you. I love you guys. I appreciate it.
B
Thank you. Thank you.
D
Oh, you got it. Mine's always right. Let me say that too.
B
Okay, thank you.
C
I appreciate that. You know, I. It's about time that, that we got one of these calls because the people believe what he just said. Madden, you just don't.
B
Go ahead, Eric.
C
Yeah, what are we.
D
Okay, here's, here's my take. So I'm from Pittsburgh, so I know Robert Morris well. No coaches, no players presently. But if I was calling the game as a, as a Pittsburgher, my first three calls would be a timeout. I would call timeout, run through them immediately, and then I would go to players that are. Then I go to players that are proven to work one. The Immaculate Reception. That's gonna be my first play. I'm gonna put out there and I want them to run it the way it was thrown up. The Music City Miracle and then the Hail Mary and on fourth down, we're going for the field goal to camp.
B
All right, there you go. My man is like, you know what? I'm gonna play a video game. That's an interesting point. I appreciate the call. It would be interesting if you were a Robert Morris fan and you won and you tried to sabotage Akron. Run plays that Robert Morton. Think about that. That might be a way to make it work.
D
Now.
C
I would love that. Like if they snuck into the Akron huddle, you know, they, they pretended to be a fan and they called plays against Akron. I, I love it, man.
B
I like. Let's go to Alex in Kentucky. Go ahead, Alex. All right, well, how about dan?
D
Hey,
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got 30 seconds. Go.
D
Hey, less. Stay away from seafood from the holler. Second of all, you got to do three statue of liberties in a row, but with different formations because they'll never expect it three times in a row.
B
They would not expect it. I, I appreciate it. You know, there is a new version of a show that's been on for a long time, Sports Jeopardy. We're gonna see. Could Myron and I play Sports Jeopardy. Could we answer the questions correctly? That and more news around the world of sports. It's Matt Myron right here on ESPN Radio.
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Thanks for listening to Matt and Myron, the podcast. You can listen to Matt and Myron
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Matt Jones and Myron Medcalf, co-hosts of ESPN Radio’s “Matt & Myron,” deliver an entertaining, insightful discussion of the day’s biggest sports stories in their signature style—mixing humor, fan perspective, and real analysis. In this episode, they debate the value of villains in sports, react to a viral stadium promotion in college football, riff with callers about rooting for the underdog, and discuss NFL player movement. The conversation is lively, quick-witted, and invites listener participation, making for a fun and informative hour.
“She said, ‘I don’t think I need them.’ As if they don’t exist. It made me realize… People hit a certain age and they say whatever they want.” – Myron (02:27)
“The worst villain, I think, in sports… How can you support what is, to me, destroying the sport?” (05:22)
“Sports and life are better with a great villain. Having a villain helps virtually any athletic sport… It’s exactly what baseball needs.” (06:00)
“Every team could have traded for me… This team did it, so shut up and eat it.” – as recounted by Matt (07:44)
“What’s the business plan? You do seafood, Jamaican, and vacation. That’s a lot of different things.” – Myron (18:19)
“Now you have your chance. For $75, you can coach a football team.” – Matt (19:02)
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 02:27 | Myron | “She said she didn’t need them… It made me realize, people hit a certain age and they say whatever they want.” | | 05:22 | Myron | “The worst villain, I think, in sports… How can you support what is, to me, destroying the sport?” | | 06:00 | Matt | “Sports and life are better with a great villain. Having a villain helps virtually any athletic sport… It’s exactly what baseball needs.” | | 07:44 | Matt (quoting Skubal) | “Every team could have traded for me… This team did it. So shut up and eat it.” | | 10:40 | Myron | “I usually root against the villains because I come from a small market city.” | | 15:15 | Myron | “This is the thing about people like Dodgers fans. They’re disconnected from what everybody else deals with.” | | 18:19 | Myron | “What’s the business plan? You do seafood, Jamaican, and vacation. That’s a lot of different things.” | | 24:22 | Myron | “I'm passing down the field every play. Like we’re going deep… Let's see what happens on those first four.” | | 28:37 | Myron | “You get me on the field, the headset’s not coming back.” | | 26:30 | Matt | “If I’m the real offensive coordinator, I’m going to be kind of angry about this.” | | 38:21 | Myron | “Yeah, it’s definitely Deshaun Watson… Why do people do stuff like that, and then get surprised when people speculate?” | | 43:13 | Myron | “If they snuck into the Akron huddle… and called plays against Akron. I love it, man.” |
This episode is a pitch-perfect mix of sports debate, playful banter, listener interaction, and commentary on the changing marketing tactics in college sports. Matt and Myron’s opposing perspectives drive a compelling conversation on what makes sports compelling (heroes vs. villains) and the lengths organizations must go to for attention and revenue. Whether riffing on viral anthem videos, breaking down the Dodgers’ dominance, designing wacky college football plays, or parsing player social media drama, the hosts keep things lively, informed, and accessible for all sports fans.