Hour 2: Banana Shirt

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron: Episode "Hour 2: Banana Shirt" Summary

Release Date: July 27, 2025

Welcome to a detailed recap of ESPN Radio's "Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron," hosted by Matt Jones and Myron Medcalf. In the "Hour 2: Banana Shirt" episode, the hosts delve into various sports topics, interspersed with humor and candid interactions. Below is a structured summary capturing the key discussions, insights, and notable moments from the episode.

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1. Technical Glitches and Light-Hearted Banter (00:00 - 02:17)

The episode kicks off with a humorous attempt at a relaxation exercise, quickly disrupted by Matt Jones promoting a discount on contacts from 1-800-contacts. Shortly after, Matt and Myron experience technical issues when Matt's iPad freezes during a SportsCenter update.

• Notable Quote:
  • Matt (00:07): "I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order."

The hosts laugh off the mishap, leading to playful criticism of the technical failure and setting a jovial tone for the show.

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2. Interview with ESPN Vikings Reporter Kevin Seifert (02:17 - 10:26)

The main segment features an in-depth interview with Kevin Seifert, ESPN's Vikings reporter, discussing the Minnesota Vikings' strategic move to bench their seasoned quarterback in favor of rookie J.J. McCarthy.

a. Transition to J.J. McCarthy (02:48 - 06:24)

Seifert elaborates on the Vikings' decision, highlighting the excitement among the fan base and the supportive team environment facilitating McCarthy's development.

• Notable Quote:
  • Myron (03:23): "He's got a very talented team around him. It's a perfect spot I think for a rookie or a second-year, first-time starter quarterback to get his feet wet."

b. Justin Jefferson's Perspective (06:24 - 08:39)

The conversation shifts to Justin Jefferson's reaction to the quarterback change. Seifert notes Jefferson's professionalism and adaptability, emphasizing his pride in performing well regardless of the quarterback.

• Notable Quote:
  • Myron (06:51): "He wants to ... show that he can be productive under any quarterback and in many cases probably raise the level of play of that quarterback because of his own skills and ability."

c. Team Strategy and Long-Term Planning (08:39 - 10:26)

Seifert discusses the Vikings' long-term plan centered around McCarthy, explaining why they opted not to retain Sam Darnold despite his contributions. Financial considerations and team-building strategies played pivotal roles in this decision.

• Notable Quote:
  • Myron (10:26): "Their long-term plan was always to move to JJ."

The interview concludes with reflections on the team's potential and the challenges ahead, offering listeners a comprehensive view of the Vikings' quarterback strategy.

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3. Mock SportsCenter Segment: The "Banana Shirt" Fiasco (10:26 - 13:42)

In a playful twist, Matt and Myron attempt to recreate a SportsCenter news segment. However, initial glitches persist, leading to humorous critiques of Matt's performance.

• Notable Quote:
  • Charlie (12:19): "He misses his cue at the start, but other than that... we're improving every Single time."

The segment highlights the challenges of live reporting and sets the stage for the ongoing "Banana Shirt" theme.

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4. Sunday Sports Headlines and Humorous Segments (16:00 - 24:19)

The hosts transition to the "Sunday Headlines" segment, covering a variety of sports news with their characteristic humor and wit.

a. Malik Nappers' Yard Measurement Challenge (16:04 - 18:25)

A viral video featuring Malik Napier struggling to measure a yard without looking becomes a topic of mockery.

• Notable Quote:
  • Charlie (17:42): "He is far off. And I thought it was entertaining."

b. Lionel Messi's Suspension from MLS All-Star Game (18:42 - 20:55)

The discussion shifts to Lionel Messi and Jordi Alba's suspension for missing the MLS All-Star Game, exploring the implications for the league and fans.

• Notable Quote:
  • Myron (19:54): "I'm actually okay with it."

c. The "Corn Sweat" Phenomenon (20:55 - 24:19)

A quirky topic emerges discussing "corn sweat" (evapotranspiration) and its impact on humidity levels in the Midwest, sparking a humorous debate about its validity.

• Notable Quote:
  • Charlie (22:11): "Isn't corn the common thing that's been here this whole time?"

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5. The "Banana Shirt" Incident and Sports Reporter Attire (24:19 - 49:40)

A significant portion of the episode humorously critiques a sports reporter, Mike Petraglia, for his flamboyant "banana" themed attire during a Bengals camp press conference.

a. Jamar Chase's Reaction (43:49 - 44:38)

Jamar Chase calls out Petraglia for his over-the-top outfit, leading to playful banter about fashion choices in sports reporting.

• Notable Quote:
  • Charlie (44:03): "He was asked... 'Where did you buy it?' And he said later at the grocery store. Kroger."

b. Discussion on Sports Reporters' Dressing Habits (44:38 - 48:42)

The hosts engage in a broader conversation about the fashion sense of sports reporters, critiquing their often casual or mismatched outfits and the entitlement surrounding catered meals at sports events.

• Notable Quote:
  • Charlie (48:10): "Don't you think there's a little entitlement in people with the fact that they believe they should get meals and all of that from the teams?"

c. Myron's Fashion Praise (48:42 - 49:40)

Amidst the critique, Matt and Myron commend each other's attire, adding a personal touch to the segment.

• Notable Quote:
  • Charlie (48:42): "While I do give people a hard time about sports reporters in dress, Myron is a very good dresser."

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6. Final Segments and Wrap-Up (49:40 - End)

As the episode nears its conclusion, Matt and Myron briefly touch upon the NFL Camps, upcoming topics, and tease the return to the mock SportsCenter segment.

• Notable Quote:
  • Matt (49:43): "Back to your questions, y'. All. I might say it was, it was a lot going on when I looked at you, because I've been seeing it. I just didn't to want to."

The episode ends on a humorous note, with the hosts promising more engaging content in future episodes.

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Conclusion

"Hour 2: Banana Shirt" of "Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron" offers a blend of serious sports analysis, particularly concerning the Minnesota Vikings' quarterback strategy, interspersed with light-hearted humor targeting sports media practices. The episode stands out for its candid conversations, insightful interviews, and the hosts' ability to balance informative content with entertaining banter.

Transcript

[Matt]

Close your eyes. Exhale.

[Myron]

Feel your body relax and let go.

[Charlie]

Of whatever you're carrying today.

[Matt]

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[Charlie]

1-800-Contacts.

[Stephen]

This is Matt and Myron the podcast senior ESPN NBA insider Sham Saranya reports that Chicago Bulls head coach Billy Donovan has signed a multi year contract extension. Hold on. Donovan is viewed as a leader within the Bulls organization and will enter his sixth season in Chicago in 2020 with 800 NBA games coached over his career. Cal Riley hit his major league leading 40th home run with a go ahead solo shot in the sixth inning, propelling the Seattle Mariners to a 72 victory over the Los Angeles Angels. He became the first MLB player to reach 40 homers this season and the first switch hitting catcher to do so before August.

[Charlie]

Charlie Steiner is somewhere.

[Stephen]

Y' all messed me up, man.

[Charlie]

I mean, roll it over.

[Nick]

What happened?

[Stephen]

My iPad froze. So I was trying to, like, I was trying to reach all over and it stopped.

[Charlie]

I think you need to go back to your other voice because I think, I think when. I think you tried to use a normal voice and you ended up, I mean, producing. What was that? Do you want another chance? You want to try.

[Stephen]

IPad froze.

[Charlie]

Do you want to try again? To give you another minute here to try again in a minute.

[Stephen]

Let me do it. Yeah, throw it up.

[Charlie]

Tell you what, just hang. All right. Yeah, go ahead. Let's go.

[Stephen]

I don't have the stories up. They're not up.

[Charlie]

Let's do this interview with Kevin Seifert. Then at the end of the segment, I'm gonna give you another chance because that was like people tuning in to hear the news. Could not have been more disappointed by that.

[Stephen]

My iPad froze.

[Charlie]

I'm telling you somewhere Charlie Steiner is just angry at that. You are ruining the legacy of SportsCenter. It is an NFL Nation NFL takeover. Kevin Seifert is the Vikings reporter for ESPN. Kevin, I know you tuned in hoping to get some news. I'm sorry that didn't happen that last segment, but thank you for joining us.

[Myron]

That sounds like the modern version of the dog ate my Homework man.

[Charlie]

He had no backup.

[Stephen]

Froze my fro.

[Charlie]

Sad. Kevin 2025. My man gets up here and says his iPad froze. All right, Kevin, you, you are the ESPN Vikings reporter. So I guess you know the Vikings had a great season last year and then made a decision that was understandable, which was, all right, we're just, we're going to our rookie quarterback. We're going to not use the guy that gave us one of the better regular seasons we've had in recent years. We're going to a rookie, although he's now a second year player, J.J. mcCarthy. How's he looking in camp and what are the risk for the franchise even with the fans in making such a move or does everybody kind of understand?

[Myron]

I think everybody in town is thrilled. I think if anybody knows the history of the Vikings as Myron does, it's been a long time since there has been a young franchise type quarterback that the team is committed to and is coming into a team as talented as this Vikings team is. And so all the time I've been around the Vikings, I've never sensed more excitement and more optimism from the fan base, which is exactly what you would expect for quarter when the quarterback hasn't thrown a single regular season pass. I mean it's all been good stuff. It's, it's nothing, nothing negative on the field has happened yet. And so, and in camp he's, you know, he's been pretty, he was pretty decent last year towards the end before he got hurt and he's sort of picked up where he left off in that regard. I mean we see some mistakes, but we can see with our own eyes him learning from those mistakes and making adjustments. He's got a very talented team around him. It's a perfect spot I think for a rookie or a second year, first time starter quarterback to get his feet wet, to not have the entire pressure of the entire offense or the entire team on his shoulders and just being asked to learn and evolve and develop and it's gone pretty well so far.

[Stephen]

Kevin JJ was successful at Michigan with a really run heavy offense. Didn't throw a ton. How will that impact his adjustment to the NFL?

[Myron]

You know, I think, I mean they've set themselves up to not need him to throw 35 or 40 times a game or even 30 times a game with Aaron Jones getting re signed. And then they traded for Jordan Mason from the 49ers and upgraded the interior of their offensive line so they have the potential to run the ball more often and more effectively than they have in the past under Kevin o', Connell, the head coach and the play caller. But also the Vikings in their research on JJ McCarthy prior to the draft looked at all of the, what they call the weighty downs, the times when he was asked at Michigan to make important throws, whether it was third down or second and eight or situations that are, that are, you know, difficult for a quarterback, not just the first and ten screen passes. And so they looked at those and they found that he not only threw as many times in those weighty down situations as some of the other people in that last year's draft class, but he, his performance in those, in those throws at Michigan were as good as any of those other guys as well. So they feel pretty confident that when he is asked to, you know, it's an obvious passing down and he's asked to make a tough decision or deal with a confusing defense, that he is better off than I think people in the pre draft process realized. And that's only going to be enhanced as he continues to learn under Kevin O' Connell and, and Josh McCown, the quarterbacks coach.

[Charlie]

Let me ask you about Justin Jefferson. He is hamstring. He had an injury coming into the, to the season. He's obviously a huge part of what they do. Is there a, I mean, he basically said he thought McCarthy was a rookie for a receiver like that. Is he excited about this new change? Is he? Or is there you know, some, some concern about having a new guy, especially one without reps playing to get him the ball?

[Myron]

He has not expressed any concern. In fact, Justin Jefferson has always been sort of proud of the fact that no matter who the quarterback has been, you know, he started off with Kirk Cousins and then Kirk got hurt in there in 2023. And so he had four different starters that year. And then last year he transitioned to Sam Darnold and then this year to J.J. mcCarthy. He's always been proud that whoever the quarterback is, that he's been able to make that adjustment and that he wants to, as a point of pride, show that he can, you know, be productive under any quarterback and in fact in many, in some cases probably raise the level of play of that quarterback because of his own skills and ability. So, you know, he, in that same interview you referenced, he did say, you know, like he thought Kirk Cousins would be his guy for 10 years and you always prefer to have that guy for 10 years. But he knows the reality of the NFL that it's very rare when a receiver gets to just play his entire career with the same quarterback. And so I think he's viewing this as just sort of part of the NFL. I think he would be thrilled if JJ McCarthy turns out to be that 10 year guy and he never has to worry about transitioning to another quarterback again. But I have not sensed any like frustration or disappointment or anything. In fact, he was at more off season stuff this year than he's ever been in his entire career. And then he came to camp and he practiced for one and a half practices before the hamstrings started tightening up and they shut him down here for a little while. That's not expected to be a long term issue. And I think he has a lot of confidence in JJ and Kevin o' Connell and I think that he is hoping, like many people in Minnesota, that this is the last quarterback transition that he'll have to go through for a long time.

[Stephen]

I want to go back a little bit, Kevin. We watched Sam Donald have this historic year, you know, in his career, get the Vikings to the playoffs. Obviously the last couple of games weren't good, but was there any consideration about really signing him for another year, seeing what you have there? Why the move to jj?

[Myron]

I think, you know, their long term plan was always to move to jj, you know, and it might have happened last year at some point had the injury not occurred. I think they, their initial thought was that Sam Darnold would be a one year type bridge and he, while he had, as you said, a really good season, I don't think they considered it a strong enough season to upend not only that long term plan but also the advantages you get from a team building perspective when your quarterback is on the rookie contract. And that can't be the only thing you go by. But if you just look at the team the Vikings have built around him, around McCarthy, with all the free agent signings and the guys that they've extended that were already with the team, I mean it would just not be possible probably if they had had to pay market value for Sam Darnold. And so I think that was their, their main thought, that he had a really good season last year and obviously they had a chance to sign Aaron Rodgers as well and they passed in both cases. And I think that that just kind of harkens back to their longer term plan of building a team around a quarterback with a, with a, with a rookie contract and one that they had a lot of faith in going into last year as a rookie, last season as a rookie and didn't lose any faith because he suffered the injury. And so at some point they were going to be turning to him. And so I think with the team they had built around him. They thought this was the to do it.

[Charlie]

Kevin Seaver, ESPN Vikings Reporter we thank you very much for coming in and talking about Myron's favorite team. Appreciate it.

[Myron]

All right, thank you guys.

[Charlie]

There you go. All right, so. So Vikings this year, a playoff team, Myron, they can be.

[Stephen]

I mean, again, it's gonna come down to JJ McCarthy. It is hard to predict their season because I just don't know how long it's going to take him to adjust to this level. You know, in Michigan it was a pretty run heavy offense and in this offense he'll be asked to make a lot of big time throws. So I gotta see a lot of it. But they can be a playoff team for sure. He can be a, he can be a good quarterback and they can go to the playoffs. We'll see if he gets there.

[Charlie]

Well, that's what Sam Darn was, so we'll see if he can do it. All right, so you, I think it's objectively fair to say did not crush that sport.

[Stephen]

My iPad froze. That's what happened.

[Charlie]

So here's what we're going to do. We've unfrozen your iPad. We put it in the microwave. Don't do that, kids. And now we're going to give you a second chance. So this is Sports Center Take two with Ace Metcalf.

[Stephen]

Senior ESPN NBA Insider. Sham Sharanya reports that Chicago Bulls head coach Billy Donovan has signed a multi year contract extension with the franchise. Donovan is viewed as a leader within the Bulls organization and will enter his sixth season in Chicago in 202526 with 800 NBA games coached over his career. Cal Riley hit his major league leading 40th home run with a go ahead solo shot in the six inning propelling the Seattle Mariners to a 72 victory over the Los Angeles Angels. He became the first major league baseball player to hit 40 home runs this season and the first switch hitting catcher to do so before August.

[Charlie]

All right, that was better. You missed your cue at the start, but other than what? Yeah, you were like two seconds behind but that's okay. You know what?

[Stephen]

No, I don't think a lot of no one told me to come in. Like James didn't tell me. He said he was going to tell me when to come in. He didn't even say anything.

[Charlie]

He said go.

[Stephen]

I didn't. I'm looking at the screen, I'm not seeing anybody point. Well, you got to say my ear go.

[Charlie]

Okay. Well other than that though, I think we're improving every Single time.

[Stephen]

We're improving.

[Charlie]

We're getting. We're getting better say go. Can I give you one. One more suggestion? This is for all the anchors out there.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

All right. Lead with Billy Donovan gets the extension. And then say reported by Shams rather than you led with Shams. You see what I'm saying?

[Stephen]

I'm reading it off the screen. Billy Donovan, not Shams, but I'm reading.

[Charlie]

Off the screen, headline says Billy Donovan gets the extension. So. So start with the headline and then go to the store.

[Nick]

I'll. I'll make sure that I rewrite that.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I mean, you have to write. You have to remember that we're talking about Ron Burgundy here. You have to write the exact words out for. For him to do it.

[Stephen]

But otherwise, that's important. Just tell me go. That's my biggest thing. I got to hear go in my ear. Still, though, that's all.

[Charlie]

Solid effort. That's a J.J. mcCarthy effort, right?

[Stephen]

I thought it was great.

[Charlie]

We're going to work you in. By the end of this show, you're going to be Lamar Jackson and ready to go. There are other headlines besides the one myron reads during SportsCenter. We will do them. That's next here on Matt and Myron on ESPN Radio.

[Stephen]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

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[Charlie]

Sunday morning here Matt Myron on ESPN Radio. We are presented by Progressive Insurance and we're ready to go. It is Sunday morning. That means headlines from across the world of sports. Let's get started. James, tell me a little bit about some headlines. Extra, extra. Read all models.

[Stephen]

The Sunday headlines.

[Charlie]

All right, let's start here.

[Nick]

This was a video posted by Bleacher Report on TikTok and it was with giant star receiver Malik Napers. And the person doing like the interview asked him to measure out a yard without looking. Here's what it sounded like.

[Matt]

Close your eyes and pull. One yard.

[Charlie]

No cheating. I see you peeking over there.

[Stephen]

How many inches is that?

[Charlie]

736 inches.

[Stephen]

One yard is 36 inches. Yeah. This is definitely not a yard. Yeah. Now way off.

[Nick]

Myron, what do you think about Malik neighbors not knowing how long a yard is?

[Stephen]

I think that's what you need to have a PR person next to you who just pulls you aside and says, we're not going to post this, everybody, let's try this again. Because, I mean, what do you mean you don't know? He wasn't close. Like, if you told me he was like, oh, okay, I thought this was like two feet. He had no idea what a yard was. And, you know, I don't, I don't think that's a really great look at all. So, you know, I don't think it's.

[Charlie]

As bad as you do. I mean, I don't think most people, I think if we went out in the street and we said, how many inches are in a yard? I think like 10% of Americans could get that right. I really do. Now, I mean, you could argue he should have a better feel because he plays football and he needs to get a yard. And I'm not saying you're wrong, but how many Americans do you think would know that 36 inches are in a yard?

[Stephen]

But this is in America. This is a guy who plays on a football field that's marked with 100.

[Charlie]

Okay.

[Stephen]

Lines. All right, let's, let's just show you What a yard.

[Charlie]

How many feet are in a mile?

[Stephen]

5,280.

[Charlie]

Okay. So that's really, really good. I mean, I'm actually impressed. How many Americans you think could get that? How many yards are in a mile?

[Stephen]

Okay, Matt. He plays a sport where the goal is to get as many yards as possible. Hold on. If you told me he pulled out two feet, it was like, oh, I thought that was close. He maybe had seven inches on it. Like he's. Is he not reaching for first down markers? Because he's like, this is a young Blake Neighbors.

[Charlie]

Because I don't think most people know. Well, I don't think most people have a real understanding of anything, to be honest with you. But. But you're right, it is. He is far off. And I thought it was entertaining. I don't think there was anything to be embarrassed about. What's next? All right.

[Nick]

Inter Miami's Lionel Messi and Jordi Alba were suspended for the team's Saturday draw at home against FC Cincinnati for failing to participate in the All Star Game. MLS All Star Game. League rules state that any player who does not participate in the All Star Game without prior approval from the league is ineligible to compete in this club's next match. And that forced Messi and Elba to the sidelines yesterday. Matt, what do you think about this?

[Charlie]

Well, I have mixed emotions, but overall I think I agree with it. First of all, I was going to go to that game last night like it was in Cincinnati. So I was going to go so that I could see Messi in person. Then when he got suspended, I ended up not going. Listen, Major League Soccer. The reason Messi, the reason they paid and gave him a piece of ownership of that team was that so he could be a brand messenger for Major League Soccer. The Major League Soccer All Star Game is a non relevant entity unless he plays it. For him to skip it, I can see why the league would be against it. And the only thing they can do because money's not going to matter to Messi is suspending for a game. Myron, I'm actually okay with it.

[Stephen]

Yeah, I'm on MLS's side here. Like, the rules aren't different for Messi. You know what I mean? If you're going to come and join this league and knowing that you're the face of the league and why people are tuning in and he's gonna decide to skip the All Star Game, what makes them think the rules should be.

[Charlie]

Different and they have an All Star game? That's kind of cool because don't they play, like, the team from Mexico or something? And so there's like. Like, that's kind of a cool All Star game. And you're also kind of playing for the pride of Major League Soccer. That. So, like, I get it. I like Messi, and I hated that he didn't play because I was going to go last night to Cincinnati and watch it. But you know what? You're here to show up at these games. Like, that's the whole reason you're here, right?

[Stephen]

Yeah. Caitlin Clark was like, yeah, I don't feel like participating in the All Star Game. That'd be a problem.

[Charlie]

Right. I mean, if Poland brings Caitlin Clark to play for the Polish basketball league, and then she's like, I'm not gonna play in your signature game. I could see why Poland would be upset. I'm fine with it. What's next?

[Nick]

All right. A phenomenon called corn sweat could exacerbate the impacts of the extreme heat blanketing a large portion of the United States. According to experts, the process, known by the scientific term evapotranspiration, is the natural process by which plants move water from the roots of the plant to the surface. According to Ohio State University, the water then evaporates into the atmosphere, making the local region feel more humid. Matt, what do you think about corn?

[Charlie]

So they're saying. Here's what they're saying. They're saying that it is the humidity and the heat in the corn country. So we're talking like, Nebraska, Iowa, other places where people have corn. I don't know what they are. Has made it to where it will be more humid today and tomorrow than like, in the last 25 years. Western Kentucky has part of this. There's a horse racetrack that canceled all the races, saying it's going to be two hot to move. And the reason they say, is corn is sweating. And so the corn sweat is what is making it so hot in the Midwest. Do you believe that, Myron? Do you believe that it is hotter now because of corn?

[Stephen]

If that's what they say, I mean, who am I to die? I mean, you know, someone's not just making up corn sweat. Yeah, somebody's not just making up stand.

[Charlie]

About this corn sweat. Haven't we had corn forever? Like, what's making the corn sweat more now than it did 50 years ago? I mean, I understand it's hotter now because of global warming, but. But corn has been here forever. Isn't corn the. The common thing that's been here this whole time?

[Stephen]

Well, thank you for that episode of History Channel. Where does corn come from? I don't know. I don't know. You asked me like. I know. You think I know the origins of corn and corn? So I don't know. I just know I'm in Minnesota and the humidity is ridiculous.

[Charlie]

But you all don't imagine there, do you?

[Stephen]

We got plenty. I got corn down the street from my house. I got a corn guy.

[Charlie]

Hang on. Just. We mean you.

[Stephen]

I got a corn guy.

[Charlie]

You live in the.

[Stephen]

There's a horse ranch next to my house.

[Charlie]

There is not corn down the street from your house in Minneapolis.

[Stephen]

I got a. I got a chicken guy. How about that? Okay. I got a guy corn.

[Charlie]

Chicken and corn. I got the same thing.

[Stephen]

On one side of the street, I got a chicken guy. Eggs fresh. On the other side, I got a pumpkin corn guy.

[Charlie]

Okay.

[Stephen]

Goes to his little shed. You don't even have to. He doesn't leave the money.

[Charlie]

Different. Okay. I'm not. Do I believe there's a place you can buy corn on your street? Sure do. I believe there's a person growing corn right there. Streets of Minneapolis.

[Stephen]

I can see it from my house.

[Charlie]

How much?

[Stephen]

Of course, I'm a little east.

[Charlie]

How much?

[Stephen]

I can see it from my house.

[Charlie]

How much?

[Stephen]

I can see it. A whole field. I can see it from my house.

[Charlie]

Kaylin, you can see it from your house. Does not mean.

[Stephen]

Why'd you call me Sarah Palin, man?

[Charlie]

Well, you see corn from your house.

[Stephen]

I can't.

[Charlie]

You. The city of Minneapolis does not have corn.

[Stephen]

Why'd you call me Sarah Palin? That wasn't necessarily.

[Charlie]

She said she could see Russia from your house.

[Stephen]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm talking about seeing corn.

[Charlie]

You can see corn from your house.

[Stephen]

You think you're the only one that knows anything about crops? There's corn by me, man. I'm telling you. Corn, sweat, I don't know if it's sweating, but it's.

[Charlie]

Sweat is not a thing that is in the city limits of Minneapolis. I'm not. Okay, Nebraska.

[Stephen]

I think it's real.

[Charlie]

All right. Well, we'll see. I feel like they've had corn for a long time. It's the first time I've ever heard of this. So there's a part of me that's going. I'm not sure about that. Now. We're gonna head to Indianapolis Colts camp next and going to, during this break, show Myron how the whole Sports center thing is done. Doing my inner John Anderson. That's next right here on Sunday morning. On ESPN radio Matt and Myron the.

[Stephen]

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[Charlie]

I'm Matt Jones and we start with Billy Donovan, Bulls head coach gets a multi year contract extension with Chicago. Sources tell ESPN he's viewed as a leader within the Bulls organization and will now enter his sixth season in Chicago with another four years guaranteed. 800 NBA games coached over Donovan's career. Aaron Judge of the Yankees will be placed on the 10 day injured list due to a flexor strain in his right elbow. But good news, MRI scan show no damage to his UCL ligament, avoiding a more serious injury. He's expected to return in 10 to 14 days. And in France, Toddy Pogaccia is set to win his fourth Tour de France for it. Yes he is in Paris. Tade gets the victory. It is Sunday morning here Matt Myron on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app presented by Progressive Insurance. It is NFL Nation Takeover. That's right. All weekend long we are talking to somebody from every NF we've got now from the ESPN our Indianapolis Colts reporter Stephen Holder here to tell us about all the action in Indianapolis. And I guess Stephen, I'm going to get my first question is a very basic one. When he came out of college I was maybe the least Anthony Richardson believer that exists. I watched him play in the sec, didn't think he was good enough then didn't think he was good enough to be picked in the first round. Certainly didn't think he was good enough to be picked in the top five. He's now had two years. It's been up and down, more down than up. But now going into this year, are there still believers in Anthony Richardson? And give me the case that this can be a breakout year for Him.

[Shams Charania]

Right. So I would say to the first question, are there still believers? I think there is cautious optimism in the Colts building because the flashes he showed last year, while they were not consistent, I think where he showed them was important. He showed some ability and clutch moments late in games late in the season. He had two game winning drives in particular in their last stretch that the Colts were really excited about. The problem I think is really the complicating thing for me is not necessarily the performance which is certainly concerning. The bigger concern as I see it is the Health. He's missed 17 of 34 games. So he's played half the games, he's been available for half the game since he's been in the NFL these past two seasons. And that's the problem at that position. That's just not going to cut it. So if he can ever stay healthy, the performance could perhaps get better because then he's just out there more, has a chance for more consistency. He can't even develop any consistency because he's not out there. So the hope is he's on the field more and perhaps that yield some dividends. We'll see.

[Stephen]

How does Shane Steichen see going into the season?

[Shams Charania]

I think it's warm. The reason Shane I think is, is under fire is because the front office is under fire. And I think it's really an extension of that. I mean if you really think about it, Shane Steichen has, in his first year he went nine and eight, missed the playoffs by one win, got knocked out in week 17 in a fourth quarter situation with the Houston Texans. So I mean that came down to the wire and that was a team that had the previous year won four games. So that's a pretty good job overall, I think. I think last year you go eight and nine, some really disappointing losses at the end of the season. But if you think about this, they're Roughly, we don't have 500 teams anymore because of the unbalanced schedule, but they're roughly like a 500 team the last two years. The difference between those kinds of teams and the teams that go to the playoffs and win in the playoffs is quarterback.

[Myron]

Right.

[Shams Charania]

And he hasn't had any stability there. So I really do think if you, if you're being completely fair to Shane Steichen, the question then becomes what can he do if he has consistency at quarterback? And then I have a really good read of the situation. However, the way the NFL works today is, I mean if you go three years without making the playoffs, it's tough to really make the case that you should continue. People don't care how you get there.

[Myron]

Right.

[Shams Charania]

That's the bottom line. And that's kind of the. The reality that Shane Steichen is. Is facing. He kind of needs to get to the playoffs this year because three years in a row not doing it just is really hard to spin. So I think the Heat, as a result of that, but also, again, the. The really. It's 10 years since they won the division, 11 years since they've won the division in Indianapolis. So you get wrapped up into all of that, and you're affected by it when you're the head coach.

[Charlie]

Wow. It is 11 years since the Indianapolis Colts have won the division. It's not even very good division. I did. I had not.

[Shams Charania]

14.

[Charlie]

Wow. I had not realized.

[Shams Charania]

People are shocked when I tell them that it is. It is a really remarkable thing. They've made the playoffs a couple times, but they have not won the division. It's.

[Charlie]

That is amazing to me. I don't think I'd realize that. Stephen Holder's ESPN's Culture Porter, you know, I. From afar. And again, well, I'm not that far. I'm only a couple hours away, but it is. I do think the Indianapolis Colts culture has always been interesting to me, specifically around Jim Ursay, who passed away, because I think his. His, you know, the way the world looked at him outside of Indianapolis was honestly kind of like an odd sort of goofball guy. But then in Indianapolis, he was beloved in a way that I just never really understood. He has now passed. How does that affect the franchise, the relationship of the team, or, excuse me, of the fans to the team? I bet it has more impact than those of us outside of Indianapolis realize.

[Shams Charania]

No, it's a great question. I would say, look, he does have sort of this cartoonish image right outside of the market. There's no doubt about that. And I get it, okay? He was different. There's only one. There's only one Jimmers, that's for sure. But I think the reason people here embraced him is because, number one, he really loved Indianapolis and it was really important to him. And there are very few owners who went out of their way to interact with their fans the way he did. So it's really hard to. To hate the guy when. When he shows you love, right?

[Myron]

As.

[Shams Charania]

As an owner, that's just not something people are used to. And then it's just very public. Right? And. And he. He was as big a fan as they were.

[Myron]

So they.

[Shams Charania]

So people embrace that it is going to be different, and it's going to be different in terms of the, the public nature of the owner, you know, being forward facing, front facing. I should say that won't be the case necessarily, but I, I think the bigger change will be this is going to be run a little more like a business now. And I think with Jimmer say it was sometimes run with his heart a little bit, and so his decisions were a little more emotional. I think they will be less so now with his daughters. They are not pushovers. I want people to understand that they have high standards, they have high expectations. They have really influenced the franchise on the business side of the organization for years where they've had a lot of control. And now that's going to also, I think, seep over into the football side, which has already been impacted by them, but, but more so now that their father is gone. So this will be. The expectations will not change. If anything, they will be higher, I believe, under his daughters. And I'm very interested to see how this goes.

[Charlie]

You just sounded like the plot of the movie Major League after when the, when the daughters take over and it become. Becomes more business like. STEPHEN OLDER ESPN COLTS REPORTER thank you very much for the time. And you know, I always say to Myron, there's nowhere to eat outside of that one steakhouse in Indianapolis. Is he right or am I right?

[Stephen]

It's a beautiful city.

[Shams Charania]

Listen, I, I think it's an underrated food town. And so all everybody who visits, I tell them, look, St. Elmo's is great, but let me take you to a few other places. So when you guys get here, hit me up.

[Charlie]

You're gonna have to take me because I can't go to O Charlie's. Again, thank you very much, Steve.

[Shams Charania]

No, we won't be doing that.

[Charlie]

All right. Thank you, Stephen. Appreciate it, man.

[Shams Charania]

All right, guys.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Oh, Charlie's is not going to be the, the best location, but that is what Indianapolis does very well. Chain restaurant capital of the world. Myron, Good stuff from. From him, from Stephen there. Do you. I mean, do you think the Colts are. I couldn't believe the 11 years that since they made. Since they won the division. Does that change this year? Possibly?

[Stephen]

Nope.

[Charlie]

No.

[Stephen]

No, it doesn't change this year.

[Charlie]

You're not a Daniel Jones believer?

[Stephen]

No, I mean, I just think they got too many missing pieces. I mean, how many teams, Matt, are trying to figure out who their quarterback is right now and will somehow get to the playoffs? Like, I think the teams in that situation rarely, if Ever make the playoffs. So I don't see it happening here.

[Charlie]

I screwed up slightly the end of that Sports center when I was trying to talk about the Tour day Tour de France, I was trying to. Pogacha is about to win his fourth title over Jonas Vindigo. But I think the, you know, the light, the wrap up music there kind of made me maybe rush it and I wasn't able to quite get it.

[Nick]

Got a little nervous.

[Stephen]

It's a good. It's a. There's something called karma. I don't know if you believe in it or not, but you spent an entire segment making fun of me when I messed up. And then, well, we both have to chew.

[Charlie]

We both have one more chance. I'll. I'll get Toddy Pogacha and Jonas Vin to go. I'll get it right this time.

[Stephen]

I think you got excited because you're so into the Tour de France. Like you just. Anybody says Tour de France. First off, they've been racing since Christmas. That was the first time you told me the Tour de France is happening. You said, oh, le pebble in the team France where they're racing so well, like you, you kept talking about these guys and now it's still happening.

[Charlie]

Well, it's not been the most exciting tour today. Got the lead early in week two and then there's just not been a lot of excitement. It looked at. It looked early on like this could be a classic tour with two of the greats going at it. But Yonas Vindego, I don't think his training was as good, Myron, coming into this one. So he just wasn't able to make the moves we're used to seeing from the young man.

[Stephen]

His training wasn't as good. What do you mean? Like, he had to take the kids.

[Charlie]

Quite as fit Little league. So he couldn't train as much early on today. Made some moves in the smaller mountains and Jonas couldn't. Couldn't keep up with him. And that was a problem for him.

[Stephen]

Are they all still juicing? Is everybody still on the.

[Charlie]

Do you not have any interest in a sport that most of Europe finds fascinating? Cycling? I mean, it is, it is. I do.

[Stephen]

But let's be honest, it was a little bit better when they were, you know.

[Charlie]

No, what was better is there was an American for you to understand what was going on and connect to you.

[Stephen]

Just. That's true.

[Charlie]

You're just one of these like stars and stripes forever.

[Stephen]

No, no, no. You're one of these people who's like.

[Charlie]

Fast and you don't appreciate when we have these legends from around the world.

[Stephen]

No, you. One of these people is like, hey, I'm going to Europe for three months on a mystery mission, okay? James Bond, I don't know what you're doing over there. You know, you just disappear for months at a time, going to Europe, okay? You know, you're a little too. You get a little too into it, if I'm being honest, a little too much.

[Charlie]

What do you mean? I'm getting towards. It's a little too much.

[Stephen]

A little too much.

[Charlie]

You're getting.

[Stephen]

You're crossing the line a little bit as much as you are, like, their ambassador now. Is that what you want to be, the ambassador to Italy or something?

[Charlie]

Big world. Don't you want to see the world? Or you just fine with the corn and honey that people sell to you on the street?

[Stephen]

I get that it's a big world, but, like, you'll just start talking about Austria randomly in a break, and I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. What about what's happening right here? I just think that's, you know, you.

[Matt]

You.

[Stephen]

You're a big Europe guy. You love the NFL Europe games, too. Like, you're one of the one people who's like, give them as many games as we can.

[Charlie]

I just feel like you only get to walk around this place once, right? So why not walk around as much of it as you can, right? Like, why not learn about all of the things that are happening and you find things that you'll think are very interesting? I want you to. All I want you to do is. I believe it was in Vogue that said, many years ago, myron, free your mind and the rest will follow. And that's really all I would like you to do. Be colorblind. Don't be so shallow. That's kind of what In Vogue said, and that's kind of what I do as well.

[Stephen]

Is that what they gave you at the NATO meeting? Because all those talking points you just gave are what people say at the United nations meeting or something, man. That's how it sounded.

[Charlie]

It's just. It's just good advice for people out there. Also, good advice is sometimes you can make a statement by the clothing you choose to wear outside of the house. Maybe the best story in the NFL this week came from a shirt and Jamar Chase. If you haven't heard about it, we will tell you about it. Some good news from Bengals camp after a lot of bad in week one. That's next. Here On Sunday Morning with Matt Myron on espn.

[Stephen]

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[Stephen]

This is Sunday MORNING with Matt Myra on ESPN Radio and on the ESPN app. Who else? Nick Roush. We're going to have him, I think once a week from Kentucky Sports Radio, Nick Roush. If you haven't had him on the show, he's. I don't think I know.

[Myron]

Do we know in Nick Rock.

[Stephen]

The only problem, he covers Kentucky so no one knows about him. Oh, is that Matt Jones's outfit? Yeah.

[Myron]

Oh, we used to have Matt Jones.

[Shams Charania]

On all the time.

[Charlie]

What happened?

[Stephen]

I can't, I can't discuss it.

[Shams Charania]

It's quite, it's classified.

[Charlie]

Look at Paul Feinbomb. I can't keep my name out of his mouth.

[Stephen]

What was that?

[Charlie]

Yeah, we, I used to go, I used to host Paul Fine Bob.

[Stephen]

What happened?

[Charlie]

For whatever reason, the SEC won't let me do it anymore because I said that Quanzo Martin was not a good coach. That was literally what it was. If we're just, if we're all telling truths today. I said Quanzo Martin was not a good basketball coach and university, Missouri got upset and then I couldn't host Paul Fine Bomb anymore.

[Stephen]

Interesting.

[Charlie]

What a bizarre. And by the way, guess who's not the coach at Missouri anymore? Quanzo Martin.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Yeah, because he got fired. You know why? Because he wasn't a good coach. That was. No, nobody's had more jobs. I mean, think about Quanzo Martin. Myers, Tennessee. Okay, I'll say he's had the job in Purdue, Tennessee and Missouri and he Failed at all three places.

[Stephen]

He didn't have Purdue. He was the associate coach at Purdue, Tennessee, Missouri, Cal.

[Charlie]

And has he won anywhere.

[Stephen]

Teams to the tournament?

[Charlie]

Well, so have I. The Bengals camp has been a very difficult, you know, situation so far. You had the. Trey Hendrickson is still inside. Shemar Stewart finally signed yesterday. But there's always light hearted moments in every camp, Myron. And one of the things you, you and I have done enough reporting to know in general, would you say sports reporters are good dressers?

[Stephen]

No, no, it's the last, it's the last thing most of them think about.

[Charlie]

Yeah, especially ones that aren't on television. Like people who aren't on television. They, they don't, they don't dress well. And there was a guy at the Bengals camp. What's what, what was the reporter's name? What's his name? Mike something. We'll get his name. But he was wearing. How would you describe his outfit, Myron? It was a, it was a button up shirt with bananas all over it, right?

[Stephen]

Yeah, yeah. Sports reporters dressed like they're going to like a happy hour in the Caribbean. I mean, that's kind of right, right?

[Charlie]

That's right. It was like a Hawaiian shirt. Yeah. But it was covered with bananas. And he was reporting with that on. And Jamar Chase, the Bengals wide receiver, was in his press conference and all of a sudden he noticed Mike Petraglia's.

[Nick]

Yeah, Mike Petraglia.

[Charlie]

Mike Petraglia's shirt in the crowd. And here was what Jamar Chase had to say. You and offensive.

[Stephen]

Can I say something? Much outfit, though.

[Myron]

You got a lot of bananas on.

[Charlie]

Would you rock that?

[Stephen]

Would you ran. I would not put on that many bananas. I mean, you must be a banana guy, I'm assuming, right?

[Myron]

Okay.

[Charlie]

Ask him where you bought it.

[Stephen]

From a supermarket. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. You know, the people shot that. Hey, man, if you like it, I love it, bro. Just go ahead, go away.

[Charlie]

Cool.

[Myron]

On a day like.

[Stephen]

Back to your questions, y'. All. I might say it was, it was a lot going on when I looked at you, because I've been seeing it. I just didn't to want, want to.

[Myron]

Say none right away.

[Charlie]

There you go. He was asked. I love that he gets distracted by the shirt, then says, where did you buy? And he said later at the grocery store. Kroger. He bought it at Kroger. He bought a shirt there. Myron, what are your thoughts on buying a shirt at the grocery store?

[Stephen]

You know, I mean, I would never knock if that's what people can afford. That's what they like to do.

[Charlie]

I don't think this is a people can afford.

[Stephen]

No, it's not.

[Charlie]

Let's not make this into, like, a sympathetic. This was an ugly shirt that my man paid $30 for at Kroger.

[Stephen]

Yeah, it just feels like you're trying too hard to be. You're trying too hard to look like you don't care. I think sometimes. And that's really what sports reporters too often do. And now Jamar Chase called him a banana guy. So, you know, we talked about the big dumper earlier in the show. That's what this guy's gonna be forever now, to bet the banana guy. So, yeah, it could be a little ridiculous if that's what you're shopping at that shirt.

[Charlie]

And then he also had a matching banana hat that he had taken off to ask the questions. But when they showed him out on the field, he had a matching shirt and banana hat. Who do you think Myron is. When you. When you were doing sports reporting, who do you think was the worst dressed reporter during your years of covering? Might not be somebody that people know, but were there people that stuck out as, like, what are they wearing?

[Stephen]

I don't know.

[Charlie]

Worst. Worst.

[Stephen]

I don't. I don't know. I mean, I feel like college basketball, for the most part, is. It's decent. College football, though, I mean, those reporters sometimes will wear anything up.

[Charlie]

Yeah, they will box. A lot of people don't. Really? You go to a college football game. First of all, most media people, when they go to a game, their number one question is, what is the meal that is being served at the game?

[Stephen]

Just the biggest thing.

[Charlie]

That's the biggest thing. A lot of people don't realize this. The person in your hometown that writes about your favorite team, I don't even care what your team is. College, pro. When they go to a game, the thing they are most concerned about is the free meal that will be given backstage. And when that free meal is changed, that is the maddest you will ever see a sports reporter. So if you ever read a column or see a TV hit and you're like, why is this person so angry? It is likely because they served a meal in the pregame meal that makes them mad. Am I wrong about that?

[Stephen]

No, you're 100% spot on. But you gotta. You know, you also have to understand the veteran reporters like me and others. We're from the era of catered meals, man. We're from the era. I remember going to SEC media day one, 15 years ago, and they had an entire catered meal of all these Southern dishes. They had all these pies and cakes, and it was just beautiful.

[Charlie]

But why did you think you deserved a meal? Like there's no other. There are very few jobs where people just cater a meal. Like, somebody going and working in a factory does not expect a souffle at lunch. But if you tell me I deserve.

[Stephen]

It by serving it to me, I could. You know, you start to feel like this is a part of the job. But we've gone from that era to now. You'll be lucky to get, like, a little voucher. And then it's like I go up to the concession stand like everybody else. You know, it's like, what?

[Charlie]

Don't you think there's a little entitlement in people with the fact that they believe they should get meals and all of that from the teams? I mean, isn't that almost like bribing the people that cover the team?

[Stephen]

I don't mind being bribed in my food, if that's what you want to do. I mean, I don't know that that crosses any lines for me personally, you know, so I can't speak to everybody else.

[Charlie]

You don't mind being bribed?

[Stephen]

I said if it involves. I don't think a good meal is bribery. I think it's just feeding the people who are, you know, working for. To cover your team. Man.

[Charlie]

I will say this about my. While I do give people a hard time about sports reporters in dress, Myron is a very good dresser. I mean, it's a little outlandish. Sometimes it's purple. Sometimes he looks like, you know, sometimes he looks like Barney. But nevertheless, my man shows up looking good the vast majority of times he comes to a game.

[Stephen]

I appreciate it. I gotta try tv. Like, if you do some TV stuff, you gotta dress.

[Charlie]

Yeah. You gotta do just a little bit better. We're gonna go around to more of the NFL camps and we will pick our games for the day. But first, after, you know, a couple little break messages, Myron gets his final chance at SportsCenter. I hope you're ready for it, Myron. That's coming up next here on Sunday Morning.

[Stephen]

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