Hour 2: Is My Mic On?

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Episode: Hour 2: Is My Mic On?
Date: December 14, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones & Myron Medcalf (with Evan producing)
Network: ESPN Radio

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Episode Overview

This episode blends spirited sports analysis with the hosts’ trademark banter, focusing on pivotal NFL matchups—especially Bills vs. Patriots—and quarterback narratives for both current and future seasons. The hour also covers NBA headlines, a memorable broadcast team-up between Dick Vitale and Charles Barkley, and emerges into classic pop culture territory, proving why Matt and Myron’s conversational chemistry is as entertaining as their sports insights.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Carolina Mike, One-Hit Wonders, and Old School Stories

• Matt and Myron open debating whether viral sensation "Carolina Mike" should switch up his style or stick to his successful formula.
  • Matt: “Everything is like the same song... he needs to diversify.” (00:52)
  • Myron: “Don’t change. ...All the people who try to do something else, it never works out.” (01:07)
• Myron compares Carolina Mike’s approach to legacy acts: “I went to a Montel Jordan show... he did the same song for an hour and everybody loved it.” (01:27)
• Storytime veers into old-school musicians and Myron’s encounter with Sisqó: “Every year he does an Asian tour... just does the Thong Song.” (01:58)
• Matt drops in his classic bit about how his parents keep their house unbearably hot: “It is so hot in my parents’ house... I’m sweating profusely.” (02:22)

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2. NFL Marquee Game: Bills vs. Patriots—Are the Patriots for Real?

• The show’s core debate centers on the pivotal Bills-Patriots matchup and what it means for the Super Bowl race, rookie QBs, and Josh Allen’s legacy.
  • Matt: “If the Patriots win this, they’re going to win the NFC, have a really good shot at a one seed.” (03:19)
  • Myron sees a generational-changing opportunity: “Welcoming Drake May into that sort of top 10 class, if you will.” (04:22)
  • Matt: “If you beat the Bills twice, then I have to say you’re for real. And can Josh Allen get this team to where he’s the most marquee player left?” (03:52)
• Discussion of Drake May’s ascension:
  • Myron: “If you polled every GM... Drake May’s going number one.” (04:36)
• Roster support for Josh Allen is debated:
  • Myron: “They have a guy who is generational... but he can’t do it all by himself. How do they put him in a position to get better?” (05:00)
• Why are the Bills slight betting favorites?
  • Matt: “It’s Josh Allen... The goal (in Vegas) is to get money on either side... Average bettor bets Josh Allen.” (05:42)
  • Matt picks the Bills: “I can’t go against [Josh Allen] unless it’s against Patrick Mahomes. And Drake May is not Patrick Mahomes.” (05:54)

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3. Young QBs, Super Bowl Precedent, & the Odd 2025 Season

• Quick rundown of the year’s quarterback surprises and Super Bowl trends:
  • Matt: “My theory has been you either have to be a Hall of Famer or you have to be a rookie on a rookie deal... I tend though to say I’m going to stick with the Hall of Famer.” (07:33)
  • The 2025 NFL season is marked by injuries and missed playoffs for elite QBs:
    • Matt: “Mahomes number one—out. Allen’s number two—potentially in. Lamar—three—out. Burrow—four—out. Jaden Daniels—five—out.” (08:37)
• If Buffalo loses, Matt will surrender his faith in the “great QB wins title” axiom:
  • Matt: “If Buffalo loses today... I’m just going to submit and say it’s going to be somebody kind of random.” (09:31)

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4. Headlines: NBA, Broadcaster Highlights, and Football Stories

A. NBA Cup & Wimby’s Return

• Victor Wembanyama’s return ends OKC’s 16-game streak.
  • Myron: “I think Wimby is already the best player in the league. ...the most dominant force.” (14:12)
  • Matt: “He’s not better than Jokic and he’s not better than Shay.” (14:29)
  • Spirited rankings debate; Myron rates Wimby as highest-ceiling player, Matt pushes back citing Jokic’s historic season.
• Jokic’s legacy: “Jokic is in my top 10 all time potentially... We’ve never had a skilled big man like this.” (15:39)

B. Dicky V & Barkley Team-Up (Kentucky vs. Indiana)

• Memorable on-air moment featuring Barkley pledging $100k (and Shaq’s) to Dicky V’s cause:
  • Barkley: “I don’t care what his fat ass says. We’re giving you $200,000.” (16:41)
  • Matt: “They didn’t stay on topic a lot... but... the two most important basketball commentators of all time.” (17:00)
  • Myron on authenticity: “Charles... can do what nobody else can do. ...It works so well for him.” (17:42)

C. The “Wardrobe Malfunction” Story—Oversharing in the Podcast Era

• Matt highlights former Bill Mitch Morse’s revealing podcast appearance.
  • Morse: “...I just deuce my pants quickly and violently, and I just run off the field...” (19:08)
  • Myron: “We don’t have to say everything. ...Podcast culture has made it so we feel like we gotta tell all the stories.” (19:55)
  • Matt: “I would argue it works, though. ...You tell that story and next thing you know, it’s on ESPN Radio.” (20:24)

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5. Shador Sanders and the Browns’ Quarterback Future

• Cold weather games lead to serious talk on Shador Sanders, now starting for the Browns.
  • Matt: “It is hard to have a conversation about Shador Sanders…without it immediately going into the extremes.” (25:47)
  • Myron: “We’ve seen some promise...I don’t know that you’ve seen anything yet to make Cleveland abandon...going to find a franchise quarterback.” (25:58)
• Joe Thomas on “This is Football” podcast:
  • “These next four games...will determine if Shador Sanders is a franchise guy and they build around him...or...they go for a quarterback in the draft.” (28:22)
• Sober assessment from Matt & Myron: Shador has potential but would have to dominate for Cleveland to skip QB in the draft. (30:59–31:43)
• Brief look at draft and free agency QB options: “Do you want to make a trade for Mac Jones?” (31:25)

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6. Quarterback (and Team) Outlooks—Bears, Lions, Rams, and the MVP Race

• Bears: Matt and Myron agree they are a better story than a team. (32:06)
• Rams vs. Lions: Matt calls it possibly the most important game besides Bills-Patriots.
  • Matt: “If you polled America... the Rams win that (Super Bowl favorite) overwhelmingly.” (33:12)
  • Stafford now MVP favorite; game could swing both MVP and Super Bowl odds. (33:59)
  • Myron: “It’s one of the faces of the NFL getting ready to make a massive change.” (34:08)

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7. Pop Culture Sidebar: Boy Bands, “Dreamy” Disagreements & 90s Nostalgia

• Running joke on Maroon 5, Jonas Brothers, and “dreamy” boy bands.
  • Myron: “You can see why they were... I think he’s dreamy though.” (35:49)
  • Matt: “I want you to look up 98 Degrees... Always fascinated with the boy band that had one dude in it that was kind of ugly.” (37:01)
• Classic Matt: “I’ve been convinced that the guy in All-4-One... did their taxes and so they let him go along.” (38:16)
• Myron: “If I had said that, that might be crossing a line...” (38:22)
• Their genuine chemistry shines as they riff on nostalgia, only to swerve back to Sunday NFL injury updates.

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8. Joe Burrow’s Future: Is Fun Enough?

• Discussion of Joe Burrow’s recent reflective comments:
  • Burrow: “If I want to keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it... If it’s not fun, then what am I doing it for?” (40:42)
• Myron suggests it's not crazy to think Burrow could step away early, referencing Andrew Luck: “He doesn’t sound like he’s having any fun...It’s not crazy to think that he may leave early, step away from the game early.” (41:14)
• Matt pushes back on the “retirement narrative”:
  • “There are two things you can’t buy in life...adrenaline and...relevance...That’s why I don’t think they quit. Andrew Luck’s the only one that’s ever done it.” (42:51)

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9. King of the Mountain: Listener Call-In Promo

• Classic segment tease: best listener take wins “King of the Mountain.” (43:55)
  • “All you do is call in, 30 seconds, pick the topic and it’s got to be good. ...If you’re not good, we will give you a hard time. ...But if you are good, the glory that comes with King of the Mountain...” (44:15)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (by Timestamp)

• “If you beat the Bills twice, then I have to say you’re for real. And can Josh Allen...” – Matt (03:52)
• “Don’t change. ...All the people who try to do something else, it never works out.” – Myron on Carolina Mike (01:07)
• “I think if you polled every GM... Drake May’s going number one.” – Myron (04:36)
• “My theory has been you either have to be a Hall of Famer or... a rookie on a rookie deal.” – Matt (07:33)
• “Wemby is already the best player in the league. ...The most dominant force.” – Myron (14:12)
• Charles Barkley: “And I don’t care what his fat ass says. We’re giving you $200,000.” (16:41)
• “We don’t have to say everything. ...Podcast culture has made it so we feel like we gotta tell all the stories.” – Myron (19:55)
• Joe Thomas: “The next four games will determine if Shador Sanders is a franchise guy and they build around him in the draft next year...” (28:22)
• “You have to beat the Browns today at home. If you’re serious, you win today.” – Matt on the Bears (32:18)
• Matt: “If Buffalo loses today... I’m just going to submit and say it’s going to be somebody kind of random.” (09:31)
• “He doesn’t sound like he’s having any fun. ...It’s not crazy to think that he may leave early.” – Myron on Joe Burrow (41:14)
• Matt: “There are two things you can’t buy in life... adrenaline and relevance... That’s why I don’t think they quit.” (42:51)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Carolina Mike/One-Hit Wonders: 00:38–02:18
• Bills vs. Patriots preview: 03:19–07:13
• Quarterback rankings/season surprises: 08:26–09:31
• NBA Wimby/Jokic/Rankings: 13:11–15:39
• Dicky V & Barkley sideline: 16:33–18:30
• Shador Sanders / Browns QB future: 25:47–31:43
• MVP race/Lions-Rams: 32:57–34:08
• Boy bands/Pop Culture: 35:34–39:35
• Joe Burrow “having fun” discussion: 39:40–43:55
• King of the Mountain promo: 43:55–45:08

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Tone & Takeaways

• The hosts blend sports expertise with self-deprecating humor and pop-culture asides, making even diehard football talk relatable.
• Matt and Myron challenge each other, especially regarding player rankings, QB legacy debates, and even the relevance of “dreamy” 90s band members.
• The episode’s throughline: In a season where nothing is predictable, expect classic teams, mythic quarterbacks, and viral moments to be upended.
• Notably, the show is interactive and encourages audience participation, emphasizing the “King of the Mountain” segment and inviting hot takes.

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Summary:
This episode of "Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron" is a lively mix of NFL urgency, superstar turns, cultural references, and genuine co-host chemistry—a must for fans who want to feel the pulse of sports and nostalgia before kickoff.

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[Matt]

You do need to know. Have you gotten to meet Carolina Mike since that interview? We've dmed.

[Myron]

Yeah, we've dmed about connecting. But you know, like he, he got even bigger after our show with the Panthers winning.

[Matt]

He's blown up.

[Myron]

This is going to keep going, man.

[Matt]

He's blown up. Now I'm going to make a suggestion for Carolina Mike needs to diversify. I think the songs, every, everything is like the same song. Or you think he sticks with the song he has. He doesn't try to put out other hits. It's the same. I know.

[Myron]

Don't change.

[Matt]

You don't want a second hit.

[Myron]

Yeah, don't change it. Because the problem is if you. All the people who are one hit one is. And I'm not trying to call him a one hit wonder, but all the people who try to do something else, don't despair. It never works out. He does have multiple songs though.

[Matt]

He does. But they're all a version of the same thing.

[Myron]

Listen, brother, I went to a Montel Jordan show not that long. Many years ago, it was this. He did the same song for an hour and everybody loved it.

[Matt]

You said so many times.

[Myron]

Yes, I listen. Cisco. I just ran into Cisco, you know, a few months ago.

[Matt]

You always say that like he's just walking in the mall. You always say you. You have become like my grandfather telling the exact same stories over. I've heard that you ran so much over the years.

[Myron]

I don't think I've ever told you I ran into Cisco. But what I can tell you is every year, this is real stuff. Every year he does an Asian tour, he goes to China. Like he goes all over Asia and does the thong song. Like if you're Carolina Mike, stick to this. Make it your thing, okay? All you gotta do is play the Carolinas with it. You have to worry about America.

[Matt]

You can't play the Carolinas. 888, say ESPN the text machine. If you would like to write in Cisco that much. 772-774-5254. I do have to say I Do have to say, it is so hot in my parents house. Like it is 78 degrees. Like I am sweating profusely. I do not understand how these people live in this every day. Like I'm just here for the weekend and I've lost eight pounds of sweat. How do they live in this? Like how do they keep the house so hot? Byron, how do old people, like, how did they keep it in the high 70s all the time?

[Myron]

I don't, I don't understand it because.

[Matt]

Like parents, they got blankets on them.

[Myron]

Yes. The thing is, growing up you could not touch the thermostat. Right? Like that was the one rule. And I feel like growing up it was always cold. Now it's always hot and it's, you know, but you can't touch it. You just got to adjust it.

[Matt]

I gotta touch it. Don't worry. 888 say ESPN. All right, so the big game today, the marquee game is the Bills and the Patriots. And this is, you know, if the, if the Bills, if the Patriots win this, they're going to win the NFC, have a really good shot at a one seed. Patriots can clinch their first division title since 2019. They won the first meet, excuse me, won the first meeting in buffalo. They've won 10 games in a row after starting out one and two, they've won 10 straight. Now the Bills, I think the Bills still have, are the team that because of Josh Allen in this wide open league still probably think, hey, we can win the Super Bowl. This to me is not only the game of the day, it's one of the biggest games going forward because it's a chance to see are the Patriots and Drake May really for real? If you beat the Bills twice, then I have to say you're for real. And can Josh Allen sort of get this team to where he's going to be the most marquee player left in the playoffs if we lose? Lamar Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes can he. Is this his year? To me, this is a massive game today at 1 o'. Clock.

[Myron]

It's a huge game and I don't know, that's a passing of the torch moment, but I almost think it's like welcoming Drake May into that sort of top 10 class, if you will.

[Matt]

I think it's there. I think this is like a top five class thing.

[Myron]

Yeah, I think if you polled every GM in the league right now and said you redraft that class, Drake May's going number one. And we wouldn't have thought that even A few months back when Jaden Daniels is in the NFC championship game. But I think he has proven that, man, he's just different. Like he's clearly one of the best quarterbacks in the league right now. You go and beat Josh Allen again and you potentially go into the AFC playoff picture at the top seed. I mean, you got to beat Denver and some other teams that are vying for that same spot. I think this could represent sort of the new wave of young quarterbacks if that happens again. I think on the other side though, Matt, if you look at the Bills and you look at Josh Allen, the question has to be, you know, posed, what else are they going to put around him? Because they have a guy who is clearly one of the few generational quarterbacks in this league, has a unique skill set, but he clearly can't do it all by himself. So how do they put him in a position to get better when the AFC is clearly improving?

[Matt]

But Bills though are the favorite today, which I find interesting. They're one and a half. Why is that?

[Myron]

Explain Vegas to me.

[Matt]

It's Josh Allen. I mean like again, you got to remember that when you set these lines in Vegas, the goal is to get the money on either side. The goal is not necessarily to predict who wins the game. And I think the theory is if you make the Bills the underdog, the average better is just going to see Josh Allen and bet the bill. So that to me is why the Bills are the favorite. Your goal is to get half money on either side. And I think that's how you do it. I have to tell you though, I would. I think the Bills win. When we do our picks at the end of this show, I'm going to pick the Bills. I can't go against him in a your game unless it's against Patrick Mahomes. And Drake May is not Patrick Mahomes.

[Myron]

But they lost at home to the.

[Matt]

Same week four or something. And I don't five. And I don't think that at that moment the Bills probably thought the Patriots are what they are. I mean if you're a Bills team that wants to be a Super bowl contender, this is a must win game. I mean, first of all, it's a must win game just to ensure you're in the playoffs because as Herm said, there are so many teams with good records. But also like if you're going to be a 7 seed, if you don't win this game, this is to me a must win game. You're also giving up the division. How Many years in a row have they won this division? They've won it, what, five in a row or something?

[Myron]

Like your patriots haven't watched 2019.

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, so you're giving, you're giving away your division crown five years in a row if you don't win today.

[Myron]

So you to me, are in that group of people because as much as you're saying, yeah, that was week five, the Patriots are a better team clearly now as well. Right. Than they were then. I feel like you're in that group.

[Matt]

I don't believe.

[Myron]

But here's the thing. I feel like you're in a group. I think there are a lot of people in this group. For whatever reason, they see a really good Patriots team, a really good young quarterback.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Myron]

But they don't believe in them yet. Like, they, I don't, like you don't hear people saying the Patriots are a Super bowl team, which is odd because people are saying Denver, which also has a really good record. But I don't think it could be a Super bowl team.

[Matt]

I will say I don't, I don't put Denver like. So you've heard my theory for years about quarterbacks that win the super bowl, right? My theory has been you either have to be a Hall of Famer or you have to be a rookie on a rookie deal. Now, both these teams would qualify, right. Drake Mays a rookie on or, you know, on a rookie contract. So is Bo Nix. Josh Allen's the Hall of Famer. I tend though to say I'm going to stick with the hall of Famer because if you go look through the last 20 years of Super bowl history, maybe the last 30, what is it all but like four of the super bowl winning quarterbacks are hall of Famers. I'm not saying Drake May is not going to be one. He may very well be, but I know Josh Allen is one. So that's why I can't, I can't pick against Josh Allen in this game today. But to be fair, I've been hanging on to Patrick Holmes for the last few weeks. Right. Like, I've been picking the Chiefs in all these games and they keep losing.

[Myron]

So yeah, they got to play somebody. I mean, Mahomes is probably out of the playoffs. Obviously he's out. Lamar doesn't look great. Josh Allen's team has its struggles. Joe Burrow's not getting in.

[Matt]

Let's. If we were to have gone into the year this year. Myron, I want you to think about this for a second. A little Thought exercise. If we were to have gone into the year and ranked the quarterbacks in football, what would our rankings have been? All right, Mahomes number one out. Allen's number two still potentially in. Lamar three out. Burrow four out. Jaden Daniels five out. Jalen hurts six maybe out. I mean it's amazing this year has not fallen followed what we think of as the NFL which is you've got to have an elite quarterback to win. It just hasn't.

[Myron]

No. Lamar and Jaylen potentially get in but like you don't trust any of those teams you just now.

[Matt]

But they're now they're all out.

[Myron]

Yeah, they don't. They don't get in. So like the Drake. So then Drake may has to be on the table as a guy who could potentially win a Super bowl because who else are you going to pick? Like there aren't many other quarterbacks.

[Matt]

Josh Allen, I'm still my view but remember under my view he qualifies as well because he's still on a rookie deal. Right. So like and he may end up being both of the things he may be a quarterback on a rookie deal and a future hall of Famer. He might be both. But I'm holding that on Josh Allen. But I will say this, if Buffalo loses today, Myron, I'm giving up on saying that a great quarterback's winning the title this year. I'm just going to submit and say it's going to be somebody kind of random.

[Myron]

But Drake Bay may be the way we talked about Mahomes a long time ago when he won his first.

[Matt]

There's a world that's the same thing about Jaden Daniels last year and now we don't. We said the same thing about CJ Stroud two years ago and now we don't. You know, so we'll see. We'll see. Matt Myron is presented by Progressive Insurance. We've got headlines from all over the world of sports. Not just the big ones, the ones underneath. We'll do that next. Why are you showing me your phone here? I'm Matt Myron on ESPN Radio.

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[Matt]

It is matt minor on the espn radio. What is this?

[Myron]

This maroon 5?

[Matt]

Is this.

[Myron]

Is this maroon 5?

[Matt]

Because it's so hot in this house. I got you. I don't know.

[Myron]

I thought it was Maroon 5.

[Matt]

Jonas Brothers play in Lexington like every year and it's. It's crazy. How many people come.

[Myron]

Did Maroon 5 get back together?

[Matt]

They have like a regular date. I don't know why. I don't know why they come to Lacey so much. But like, it's close to my house and they. The amount of people that go is insane to me. I didn't like. Jonas brothers are way more popular than I would have ever imagined. I know. Like, it's crazy. They get an insane crap.

[Myron]

The Maroon 5 get back together.

[Matt]

We stop with Maroon 5. We're not talking about the Maroon 5. Like, nobody cares about. When did they break up?

[Myron]

Why don't you all answer my question? Sometimes it feels like I'm talking and like no one can hear me on the microphone because nobody responds to me. I'm asking a valid question.

[Matt]

We're here.

[Myron]

You always have me talking into the mic like I'm just some old uncle who's just days and off. No, I'm not doing that.

[Matt]

I think you're answering your own question. It is now time. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Save when you bundle motorcycle, RV and boat insurance, visit progressive.com it's headlines. Extra, extra. The Sunday headlines. All right, Evan's gonna tell us some stories behind the stories. What's up first?

[Evan]

Yeah. Let's start with the NBA Cup. Victor Wembanyama made his return after a 12 game absence.

[Matt]

Here's what it sounded like on ESPN radio. Wembanyama standing dribble, tells his teammates.

[Myron]

Slow it down here.

[Matt]

10 to shoot.

[Myron]

17 seconds to go in the half.

[Matt]

He's gonna pull. Hits it.

[Evan]

Welcome back, Wemby.

[Matt]

13 straight points by the Spurs. Yeah.

[Evan]

Spurs beat the Thunder, ending the third. The Thunder 16 game win streak. They go to the NBA cup final.

[Matt]

Where they'll meet the Knicks on Tuesday.

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Night on ESPN radio.

[Matt]

Wemby's back.

[Evan]

The spurs win.

[Matt]

What'd you guys think? I thought it was. It was nice when he's back. He's amazing. I think it makes the spurs maybe the fourth best team in the NBA. But I think all season. Myron, for me it's going to be more interesting when Oklahoma City loses because it was only the second time they've done it. They were up big, ended up coming back. That's two losses. I'm interested. Are they going to break Golden State streak if everybody stays healthy. So the loss by Oklahoma City was actually more interesting me than the San Antonio win.

[Myron]

Yeah, I mean Oklahoma City seemed invincible for a stretch there and they still are the favorites to win it all. I think my take was that Wimby is already the best player in the league. I mean, he's the most dominant force.

[Matt]

That's not true.

[Myron]

He's the most dominant force in the NBA. I'm not saying he's going to mvp.

[Matt]

Stop. He's not better than Jokic and he's not better than Shay. He's not. He's going to be, but he's not.

[Myron]

He's already. To me, he's not. He's the most dominant force. Like if you, if you were going to pick the entire NBA right now and build a team, Wimby's number one.

[Matt]

Like, okay, that's a different question though. Who would you want for the future? Because he's young. Jokic is having the best offensive season in the history of the NBA. You cannot tell me Wimy's better when Jokic is having the best offensive season ever.

[Myron]

Healthy. Wimby is the most dominant force in this league. Like I just.

[Matt]

You said best.

[Myron]

That was my take.

[Matt]

Best player. That's different.

[Myron]

I think, I think he is at his healthy at his peak. I think he is. The numbers aren't yogic is the YIC is incredible but we've never seen anything like this man.

[Matt]

No, we. We haven't seen anything physically like him, but we've also never had a season as and Shea has a chance to break the wins record. I like Wimby, but everybody's got to calm down. Like I'll even consider him for third. But you're talking about two of the historic seasons in the history of the NBA happening right now and we can't just skip over it. And act like it's not happening because when he comes back and plays one.

[Myron]

Game, I'm not skipping over. I mean Yoke, I'm not skipping. Jokers is in my top 10 all time potentially like when it's all said and done. So very, very high on my list.

[Matt]

I think he's already in the top 10. This is going to be a chance.

[Myron]

To have you said that was your best center over like the Shaqs and Creek. I don't think that's a crazy.

[Matt]

He's not over cream, but he's over. I think he's over Shaq now.

[Myron]

And I like people with Shaq over creep in terms of just like skill wise, right? We haven't seen a skill Shaq over Curry. No one puts Shaq well most dominant. We've never had a skilled big man like this in yokich. Like there's never been someone this size this skilled. But Wimby right now is a force, man. We have.

[Matt]

I'd like to see your rankings of players. I think you'd have somebody like Harrison Barnes 14th all the time. What's next? Harrison Barnes.

[Myron]

Why don't you like him?

[Matt]

Okay, what's good, dude?

[Evan]

Dick Vital and Charles Barkley teamed up to call Kentucky Indiana basketball last night on espn.

[Matt]

There's a little bit of what it sounded like.

[Myron]

Me and Shaq gonna give you each.

[Matt]

A hundred thousand dollars.

[Myron]

How about that? I ain't gonna even ask Shaq for a commission.

[Matt]

I'm giving Chad giving you a hundred thousand dollars. And I'm giving you a hundred thousand dollars and I don't care what his fat ass says. We're giving you $200,000.

[Myron]

Wow.

[Matt]

It's done. I love this guy. Wow. I love you more. Wow. Come on, man.

[Myron]

So I thought you got a heart.

[Matt]

To go one back for a cup back, man.

[Myron]

It's an honor.

[Matt]

And I'm told you I don't care what Shaq Sundays. He's giving $100,000 too. I loved it. I have to tell you, obviously this was my team. I watched it. They didn't stay on topic a lot during the game. Like if you were there, like they were not exactly like embedded into the game, but they are, in my opinion, the two most important basketball commentators of all time. And they did the game together last night. First time they've ever done it. And I loved it. Dicky V is the most important person ever in media on college basketball. And Charles is, in my opinion the best athlete commentator of any sport ever. And they did them together.

[Myron]

Yeah. I mean, and you could also see, like, Charles doesn't do that kind of stuff, but he did it for Dicky V. Like, you could just see, like, that relationship and just how much they cared for one another. And Charles, if you're saying, like, I want to get immediate, don't try to be like Charles, because there's a Charles dictionary, right? There's things that he can do that nobody else can do. And it works so well for him.

[Matt]

I thought it was great. Some fans of the. Of Kentucky and Indiana were like, yeah, they're not focusing on the game. And my point was, like, you're seeing in some ways, kind of a media history here thing, right? Like, this has never happened before and it's never going to happen again. So just enjoy it. And I loved it, I have to tell you. And the fact that he made Shaq give $100,000 to charity without even asking him, I think is also great.

[Myron]

And only he could do that part too, right? Like that. That's technically fraud, I believe.

[Matt]

But you.

[Myron]

But charcas.

[Matt]

What if I went on the air Myron and said, myron Metcalf's gonna give you $500 to charity. I don't care what he says. What would you say about that?

[Myron]

They gonna be waiting on that check for a minute. That's what would happen. You better not put it in your budget.

[Matt]

I might do that one day, though. I may be like, myron Metcalf is gonna give you so much money for cheating.

[Myron]

Don't put it in your annual budget.

[Matt]

What's next?

[Myron]

Kids gonna be missing something.

[Evan]

Former Chiefs and Bill center Mitch Morse was a guest on this Is Football with Kevin Clark and shared this story.

[Matt]

About his time in Buffalo. The funniest thing that I think I can talk about with putting names is I in 2023, I was feeling a little under the weather, So I got two IVs and they called ringer bags. So it's extra salt. And I'm in a play action pass in the fourth quarter, and I just deuce my pants quickly and violently, and I just run off the field and they somehow know. And I go into the concussion tent. And I've had a bunch of concussions in my career. So my family's, like, freaking out, and then I come out play a game later, and they called it a wardrobe malfunction. So if you ever see something that says a wardrobe malfunction on a report about a medical thing, that's someone who duce their pants. Well, this is a headline I was really excited about Hearing Myron, what's your reaction to that?

[Myron]

We don't have to say everything. I think that's my reaction. Like, the podcast culture has made it so we feel like we got to tell all the stories, but we actually.

[Matt]

You're big on keeping some things to yourself, aren't you? You're big on that.

[Myron]

Well, it just feels like the podcast culture has been like. I'm going to tell you something that I shouldn't tell anybody ever, including my wife. You know, I mean, like, it's a little bit of.

[Matt]

Who was that person who was talking? What was his name?

[Evan]

Mitch Morse.

[Matt]

See, I don't even know who that is. So I would argue. I would argue it works, though. Mitch Morse is not a person. I know. He was on whose podcast?

[Evan]

Kevin Clark. This is Football Omaha Productions.

[Matt]

And see, I don't know what that is. So you just have someone, the big partner of espn. Oh, it's good then. But I'm saying to you, that's all. Yeah, no, listen, it's one of my favorites. I just. I slipped my mind for a second. But the. I think clearly it works. You tell that story and next thing you know, it's. It's. It's on ESPN Radio, a really good podcast. By the way, by. Who was Mitch Clark? Is that his name?

[Myron]

I like him.

[Matt]

He's really. He's good. Mitch. Mitch Clark and Kevin, do you know anybody who works here? I know some people. We'll talk about more of them next here on ESPN Radio.

[Myron]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

[Matt]

This is Kevin Clark from Manscape. The holidays are rolling in, and if your wish list is missing a little something, Manscaped has you covered, folks. It's December.

[Myron]

It's the holiday season.

[Matt]

You've got to be game ready for not just a bunch of holiday parties. But, I mean, my wife is asking me to take all sorts of photos in front of the tree with my son. If you're not game ready, it can be some bad angles. Guys, these are bad angles. If you're not grooming exactly the way you should, if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.

[Myron]

That's.

[Matt]

That's my philosophy this time of year. I've had some bad photos. I saw one from last year. I'm not. I'm. I got the beard. It's too heavy. And I got these great pajamas. Everything should look awesome. And guess what? My face isn't up for it. My face wasn't game ready. From the beard hedger to the lawnmower trimmer, manscaped Precision tools keep you looking sharp, feeling confident and ready for every event and celebration. Right now at Target, get 20% off the handyman shaver, beard hedger and the chairman plus essentials kit, a must have for a smooth face shave. Hurry. Offer ends December 27th.

[Evan]

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[Matt]

Happened right there. Oh, we were starting dropping it like it's hot. It's when it says two seconds instead of two minutes and I can't read actually. Oh, that was actually.

[Myron]

I thought song. I thought it was like they played the unedited version. They were like they got nervous.

[Matt]

I like drop.

[Myron]

I thought they got nervous.

[Matt]

That's my kind of music. Now who is this? Some 41.

[Myron]

Some 41 for Myon.

[Matt]

Okay. Cuz my got his little beanie on like he's. He's gonna go skateboarding in the park after today's show.

[Myron]

Those skateboard kids will be listening to this too. They were tough, man.

[Matt]

To quote. To quote someone I can't remember. Myron. Looks like somewhere out there there's a sack that needs to be hacked that he's going to go out and do.

[Myron]

Hold on, man. Come on, man. I just got on a hat. Don't call me a sack. Come on, man. That's not necessary.

[Matt]

I think that's between two ferns. Just to make the reference correct. Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. It is. It's cold where I am, it's cold where Myron is. But we could stay inside, me and my parents 79 degree house admiring in his beanie. But the Browns and the Bears, they don't have that ability. They're going to be outside and it's going to be really cold. They're saying the wind chill can get down to negative 15. It is apparently frigid outside. But it's also a game that matters for the Bears, chance to stay in contention for the NFC North. For the Browns, more sort of decisions about Shadur Sanders, who's been named the starter for the rest of the season. We will have that game, by the way, here on ESPN Radio. Sanders was 23 of 42 for 364 yards and three touchdowns. Did have an interception last week he was named NFL's Offensive Rookie of the Week. It is hard to have a conversation about Shador Sanders, Myron, without it immediately going into the extremes, right? It's like either people want to say he's horrible or people want to say look, he's awesome. He should have never gone in the fifth round. So let's try to give your and my most reasonable take on Shador after three weeks. If you were to describe what you've seen of Shador Sanders in three weeks, what would it be?

[Myron]

We've seen some promise, you know, some improvement. I don't know that you've seen anything yet to make Cleveland abandon what I think is his plan of saying we got to find a franchise quarterback going into next year. You know, I don't think he's done that. But. But Matt is also about a year removed from his last college game. So like some of this is just the development that probably has happened in practice being in the system all these months. So. So if you're Cleveland, maybe this was the right time to sort of unveil him now that he's had an opportunity to be with the the team for a while. So he's looked good last week.

[Matt]

The Titans aren't better than Gabriel. Like, I mean, ultimately part the first step is is he better than dealing Gabriel? Then there's a bigger question of if he's a franchise quarterback. I mean, is he better than Dylan Gabriel? Is he not. Is it close? Like where do you think it is between the two of them? He.

[Myron]

I think it was better last week and I think he's the starter because they see him as someone who's better than Dylan Gabriel.

[Matt]

They Lose to the tight. I mean, Gabriel, to be fair, played some good games. And they, it's interesting to me. Shador was pretty good last week, but they did lose to the Titans.

[Myron]

They didn't. That's bigger than obviously Shador Sanders. But if your organization is having a meeting and they're saying, is this person better than Dylan Gabriel, then you probably don't have a franchise quarterback. I mean, like right now it's these two guys battling two rookies. But this isn't the long term plan. I think should do a. Sanders has to do way more in order for Cleveland to even think about him being that guy.

[Matt]

Well, there's probably nobody that knows the Browns more than Joe Thomas, hall of Fame offensive tackle. He was on the this Is Football podcast. Is this, is that on espn?

[Myron]

It's the same one that we just talked about.

[Matt]

This podcast. It is making news. And by the way, I'm told that Kevin Clark on After Us and I might have even worked with him, which is why I've always been such a big fan. And you remember, everybody ever worked with. I'm not good with names. Plus I feel like there's a lot of Kevin's and there's a lot of Clarks and like Connells and like, it just feels like there's a lot of people with the name Kevin. But anyway, he was on Joe Thomas was on this Is Football and here's what he said about the next four weeks for the branch.

[Evan]

When you look forward for the rest of the season, these next four games for them are probably the most important four games this franchise has had in 20 years. There's nothing on the line from a playoff standpoint, but these four games will determine if Shador Sanders is a franchise guy and they build around him in the draft next year or if they feel like he's not their franchise quarterback. The two first round draft choices that they have in the draft in the spring are going to be used somehow, some way on a quarterback. So what Chador does in these next four games, if he continues to show consistent growth, big playmaking ability, that leadership that we saw last week, like, I think that they might say, hey, we want to give this guy a shot.

[Matt]

So are they just giving up on Dylan Gabriel? It sounds like they're like, the question is either whether it's Shador for the future or not. Dylan Gabriel's just not part of the conversation, I guess.

[Myron]

I mean, I'm assuming he's part of the conversation, but he also had his chance. What I always feel like in Situations like this, Matt, we never know what people are seeing throughout the week that we just heard the game, but we don't know what's happening in practice. And so clearly they see something. Here's the good part for Shadora Sanders, this draft is not what we expected it to be. You know, months back, we thought this draft could have four, five, six franchise quarterbacks in it. It may not have. It may not have any. So I think if you were to do a Sanders, knowing your team doesn't have a lot of great options to go out and get a quarterback if he can play well the rest of the way, there's certainly a potential that he goes into next season as the guy that they're going to play in 2026. I don't know if that means franchise quarterback, but at least potentially, he starts the season as the guy.

[Matt]

Yeah, I mean, Joe Thomas would know more about this than I do.

[Myron]

Yeah.

[Matt]

I do think, look, these next four weeks clearly important. I can't imagine a scenario where I run the Browns where I go into next year thinking any of these guys are who I'm going to build my franchise around.

[Myron]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Now maybe I'll feel differently at the end of the next four weeks. I would think one of these two guys is not even going to be on the roster next year. That would just be my guess. I don't know which one it'll be, but one of these two guys probably not going to be on the roster. Secondly, I need to see Shador dominate before I'm building my team around him. I just do, because, you know, if you look at the draft next year, Browns are going to get one of the top picks and the other teams with top picks, Myron, they don't need quarterbacks. So you're probably going to have your pick of the quarterbacks next year. I feel like you've got to think one of them is going to be good. So I just can't imagine a scenario where you say, I'm going with one of these two guys for the future, but if Shador is dominant the next four weeks, maybe you do.

[Myron]

Yeah. And I think that's why Joe Thompson's so right. Like, the next four weeks could change the trajectory of the Cleveland Browns franchise. Right. Depending on what Shadow ends up doing. How much do you like the guys who are going to be available in this draft? Does a guy like for Dan Fernando Mendoza is that elite franchise quarterback stuff we're going to find out in the combat and all these other things? I think the other thing is the off season market. Where do you think Kyler Murray has something left in the tank? Do you want to make a trade for Mac Jones?

[Matt]

He needs to be in Atlanta.

[Myron]

Those are all big.

[Matt]

Kyler Murray feels like a quarterback for the Falcons, doesn't he? Just the whole I could just see him running around playing against the Panthers next year. I just feel like with, with Chris Myers announcing like I just feel like that's what's going to happen.

[Myron]

It's potential. I mean, you know, we'll see What Michael Pennix Jr. What they believe about.

[Matt]

Him but well, he's coming off.

[Myron]

There aren't a lot of great options. Yeah, a lot of great options at quarterback if you're a team in Cleveland's position.

[Matt]

Do you believe in the Bears? I mean last week they did lose but they were right there and I actually thought played really well on the road against Green Bay. Are you, are you a Bears believer?

[Myron]

I still think they're a better story than team. You know, at the end of the day, I mean I keep think Caleb Williams has gotten better but I want to see what happens in the final stretch of the season. I don't think they showed up against Green Bay.

[Matt]

Well, if you're at all serious, you got to win tonight. When you agree you got to win today. If you're serious, you have to beat the Browns today at home. If you're serious, you win today. Lions and rams game as ESPN radio coverage begins at 44 o'. Clock. Stafford, Matthew Stafford is now the odds on favorite at minus 180 to be the MVP at the draft King Sportsbook. This could be, we might have said the beginning here. This is super bowl preview. The lines really held, haven't held up the end of the. Their end of the bargain. They kind of have to win today. I think there's probably more on the line in this game today, Myron, than maybe any other we have besides Bill's Patriots.

[Myron]

Yeah, I mean the Lions got to prove something to themselves. Both of these teams are really, really good. The Rams have the record to show for. I think if you polled America and say I'm going to give you $1,000 what team are you putting it on to win a Super Bowl? I think the Rams win that overwhelmingly.

[Matt]

I still remember who at the end of the year I had. Rams, Bills. I still feel really good about it. You did.

[Myron]

I feel better about the Rams and the Bills but I think the Rams with a dominant win today, it's hard to ignore them as like the favorite to win it all. And what's crazy is we started the season not even knowing if Matthew Stafford would be available to play and now here he is about to win mvp.

[Matt]

Yeah, I think it'll be he has been Today may be the MVP race. If Drake May beats the Bills for a second time, then I think he's the mvp. And if Drake May loses and Matthew Stafford beats the Lions, then I think he's the mvp. I think whichever one you think it'll be, today's the day to get your bet in. Because I think the odds will change after today one way or the other.

[Myron]

I think you're accurate. It's fascinating to me that Miles Garrett is probably going to shatter the sacks record. Yeah, he won't be in that conversation. But I agree. I think Matthew Stafford has a chance to really lock it up.

[Matt]

That's right. It's one of the faces of the NFL getting ready to make a massive change. We will deal with that next and try to get Myron to understand the difference between most late 90s and early 2000s pop rock bands. That's next here on Matt and Myron. Counting you down to kickoff on espn.

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[Matt]

Eligibility vary by state. Five. Myron's favorite group here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio. You kind of thought Adam Levine kind of dreamy, right? But still with a good voice isn't that kind. It's.

[Myron]

You can see why they were saying I think he's dreamy though. I mean you don't have to say that part. I think he's dreamy.

[Matt]

Like, I mean you can say he has A chiseled jaw, and he's a. Like a handsome guy. Got a good voice. He was people's man at one point.

[Myron]

Yeah, he was.

[Matt]

He was the sexiest man of your mind. You should be. You can say he's handsome. That's not. It's okay.

[Myron]

No, handsome's fine. But you said dreamy. I mean, that's a little dreamy. Yeah, they got great. We use dreamy too often, by the way. Like, we, I don't know, expanded the list of dreamy people. It wasn't like that last decade.

[Matt]

I don't think I've called Maroon 5.

[Myron]

I'm glad to hear that they're still back together. Where? Who?

[Matt]

I don't.

[Myron]

Weren't.

[Matt]

Just. Didn't you describe all boy bands as dreamy?

[Myron]

Oh, he's so dreamy. That's definitely a 90s term. I never said that. My boy bands.

[Matt]

I say you is like a general you. I'm not gonna get off track here. Although we have a little bit. Okay, I want you to look up some time. Look up 98 degrees, okay? The group 90 degrees, they sing, I swear. Oh, here's why. I want you to look up 98 degrees. I was always fascinated with the boy band that had one dude in it that was kind of ugly. And, like, 98 degrees had a guy.

[Myron]

Wait a minute. These people are still alive, Matt. Okay, I understand.

[Matt]

I'm sure he grew into his. His looks. But 98 degrees, if you go into it, he had, like, glasses. And as a young guy with glasses, I was like, hey, man, I'm kind of nerdy. And 98 degrees does have a nerdy guy. New Kids on the Block was the same. They had Jonathan Knight. No offense to Jonathan Knight, but he wasn't quite on the level of the rest of New Kids on the Block. See Rachel's cover, but she knows I'm right. Look at that guy with the glasses in 98 degrees. He didn't need to be in there. I'm just saying I always had some sympathy. And, like, I like the guys who weren't dreamy that were in the boy bands.

[Myron]

I think you're mixing up groups. You said 98 degrees. Did I swear all for One? Did I swear all four?

[Matt]

I'm sorry. All for One is the one. You're right. Sorry.

[Myron]

Okay.

[Matt]

The guy. All for One. See how there's a nerdy 98°? Yeah. You see the dude in the glasses and all for one?

[Myron]

Yeah, but, I mean, he had a great voice.

[Matt]

I understand, but all for one. There you go. See that guy right there? He didn't need to be in that group. And that's what I'm saying. I always kind of related to those.

[Myron]

Guys, but this was when you could be in those groups, when you. It didn't have to be just about the marketing. It was about good singing.

[Matt]

I've been convinced that the guy in all for one. I think he did their taxes and so they let him go along.

[Myron]

Hold on, man. That sounds. If I had said that that might be crossing a lot. I don't know if we can. Hold on a second.

[Matt]

He needs their taxes. Oh, man. I'm just saying, like those glasses agree with him. After seeing the photo you keep.

[Myron]

Listen, I'm telling you, leave my guy alone, man. He could sing, he had a great voice and that's all you needed. In the 90s, you, you had to be a good singer. Now it's all of the tick tocking and Instagramming and it doesn't even matter if you have talent.

[Matt]

But all for what's been active today in the NFL. Commanders running back Chris Rodriguez. Commander's running back Chris Rodriguez, he former Kentucky player. He is out. Texans running back Nick Chubb is out. Chargers wide receiver Quentin Johnson and then some defenders on the Bills and Ravens wide receiver Rashad Bateman all out today. For those of you doing your fantasy sports, the Ravens are playing the Bengals in what is freezing weather. I was kind of picked the Bengals and then I saw Joe Burrow and they showed him warming up and he looked really cold. And I have to tell you, when I see a guy looking cold, I mean Joe, you grew up in Ohio. You should be alright with this cold. But he looked cold. So now I may be switching it to the Ravens.

[Myron]

Well, it's cold and realizing you're out of the playoff picture, I mean that, that's the difference.

[Matt]

That's true.

[Myron]

You got to go out in this weather without a whole lot to play for. That's when it feels even colder. And then I don't know if you heard what he talked about earlier this week. I don't know where Joe's head is at, man. Like, I don't care if this is what he's saying. Focused.

[Matt]

He, you, you've been very adamant about this. This has been on your mind. This is what Joe Burrow said when he was talking about trying to have fun playing football. No, it certainly doesn't change my desire to win. You know, if I want to, if I want to keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it. You know, I'VE been through a lot, and if it's not fun, then what am I doing it for? So that's the mindset I'm trying to bring to the table. I'm not sure. I'm not sure there was a singular moment or time. It's just a reflection. Reflection on a lot of things that I've done and been through in my career, I think. And I've been through more than most and certainly not easy on the. The brain or the body. So just trying to have fun doing it again. What did you make of that?

[Myron]

It doesn't sound like he's having any fun. And I don't know if that's the injuries, if that's Cincinnati or a combination of both, but he doesn't sound like a guy who's really inspired to go forward in football. And it's, you know, people talk about the early retirement, the Andrew Luck thing. The difference with Joe Burrow from all these guys in his position is Joe Burrow's made $200 million just in football money already. Like, he's extremely wealthy already. So I don't know if it's crazy to think that he may leave early, step away from the game early if he's not having fun.

[Matt]

I don't. I don't understand why everyone like, okay, so when I first saw the headlines of Joe Burrow sounds like he may step away, I was expecting a quote where he talks about stepping away. I didn't really hear that in those quotes. The quotes I heard were like, a guy who just goes, look, man, I've had a rough couple years. I want to keep having fun. So I'm trying to find a way to have fun. Like, I've thought that before. I've sat there and said, you know, I want to have more fun doing radio. If I'm going to keep doing it, that doesn't mean I'm leaving tomorrow. Like, I. We kind of want these players to open up and be themselves. But then the moment they take even, like a ounce of reflectiveness, then we're all like, deep down, does he have a desire to quit? I just didn't. I didn't really get that out of his statements.

[Myron]

I think it's the line of, you know, if I'm not having fun, then why am I doing this? Like, I mean, he doesn't sound like.

[Matt]

A guy response to a question where they were like, are you having fun? It wasn't like, he was just like, I'm a miserable person. He was, like, responding to a question.

[Myron]

But anytime you Hear a top five quarterback in his late 20s making a gazillion dollars to do this, and he says, I gotta have fun. I think it's fair to speculate, okay, because of what Andrew Luck did. Will that be something we see in the future? And I know we go, these guys would never quit. We're about to come to a generation of quarterbacks, Matt, who are going to be in their early 30s and they've made almost half a billion dollars in the NFL.

[Matt]

I mean, nobody quits, but I mean, this is the only one that's ever quit. No one quits like that. Philip Rivers came back, he made a bajillion dollars. He came back like, no, there's nothing you can do in life. There are two things you can't buy in life. I don't care how much money you have, you can't buy adrenaline and you can't buy like fame slash, like relevance. So, so that's why you see all these billionaires trying to buy media companies. They so, like, they have all this money, but they want people to care what they have to say. Same thing's true with athletes. Like, they can't. There's nothing they can buy that can replace the adrenaline of the game. And that's why I don't think they quit. Andrew Luck's the only one that's ever done it.

[Myron]

All of that's fair. But I think the Philip Rivers generation is different than the Joe Burrow generation for a lot of reasons. A, they've seen those guys get banged up for years and years and years. And a lot of those guys have said they don't want to do this forever. Like a lot of those guys have said there's going to be a stopping point.

[Matt]

Aaron Rodgers kept going. They all keep going.

[Myron]

And maybe that's a different generation, Matt, but that's a different generation than these guys.

[Matt]

I'll believe it when I see it. I haven't seen it yet, so I have a hard time believing it. What I do believe is that King of the Mountain is a wonderful game. 888, say ESPN. You can call in and give your hottest take to become King of the Mountain. Did we crown a new one last week, Myron, or. No, I was gone. We did.

[Myron]

Yeah.

[Matt]

So we have a new.

[Myron]

We didn't do it. No, we didn't do it last week. Did we do it last week? I don't think we did last week.

[Matt]

No. We only had a two hour show. So we did not two weeks ago. Okay, so we have, we have one from two weeks ago. So all you do is you call in 30 seconds. You can pick the topic and it's got to be good. 888, say ESPN. And let me just say if you're not good, we will give you a hard time. And don't take it personally. It's just part of the game. But if you are good, the glory that comes with King of the Mountain, you heard Charles Barkley and Dick Vital. A lot of people don't know it. They both got on the air because of King of the Mountain. That's the kind of thing you can do here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio, 888CSPN. We will pick potentially a new King of the Mountain and get you ready on counting you down to kickoff for the NFL. This is Matt Myron on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, SiriusXM Channel 80.

[Myron]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

[Evan]

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[Myron]

So if you've been living in the.

[Matt]

White can branch out.

[Evan]

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