Hour 2: Lake Erie is Overrated

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron (Jan 11, 2026)

Hour 2: Lake Erie is Overrated – Detailed Episode Summary

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the world of sports while maintaining the show’s trademark banter, sarcasm, and offbeat humor. Main topics include debates about the perception of Cleveland and Lake Erie, wild card implications for the NFL playoff picture, head coach rumors, significant moments in soccer, Trey Young’s NBA trade, and a sprinkle of friendly personal jabs. Matt Meyer and Myron Metcalf are joined by ESPN Cleveland’s Emmett Golden and the Headline team, creating a lively, multi-faceted discussion that’s as much about sports culture as it is about the games themselves.

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Cleveland Debate & Lake Erie Rankings (00:35 – 05:30)

• Kicking Things Off:

  • Matt jokes about how he was right “early” that Dabo Swinney is “the worst” (00:35–00:48).
  • Myron teases Matt for having asked a former Swinney player if Swinney is the worst, which Matt frames as a “simple question” (00:51).

• Cleveland Stigma:

  • Myron’s comment that coaching in Cleveland gives you a "Cleveland stink" you can't wash off brings in defensive callers from Cleveland (01:16–02:55):
    • John from Cleveland struggles to sell his city, leading Matt to joke about local tourism.
    • Tom from Cleveland valiantly lists Cleveland’s “great parks, great water, great lakes...good people, good food” (03:20).
    • Matt presses on the "great water" point, quipping, “when I go by the water, it kind of smells” (03:27).
    • Myron asserts Lake Erie is the “last of the Great Lakes,” ranking them: Michigan, Superior, Ontario, Huron, and Erie (04:15–04:37).
    • Myron says, “Erie’s just glad to be among the Great Lakes” and compares Lake Erie’s status to Missouri in the SEC (04:46).

Notable Quotes:

• Myron: “Lake Erie is like the last of the Great Lakes...Erie’s just glad to be among the Great Lakes in many ways” (04:46)
• Matt: “No, Erie is like that guy in All-4-One we talked about...” (05:01)

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NFL Wild Card Weekend: Bills vs. Jaguars & Jacksonville’s Image (05:30 – 10:30)

• Game Preview & Uncertainty:

  • Both agree Bills @ Jaguars is a total toss-up. Matt says, “I could see the Bills winning by two touchdowns or the Jaguars winning by two touchdowns, and neither result would oddly surprise me” (06:01).
  • Myron frames this as a defining game for Trevor Lawrence, comparing it to a breakthrough moment for Caleb Williams (06:42).

• Jacksonville Credibility Gap:

  • Matt discusses how there’s hesitancy around the Jaguars because of brand perception and anonymity outside Trevor Lawrence (07:18).
  • Myron: “They play like 11 games in London in the last couple years. Like, they’re always in London” (07:57).
  • Matt: “It’s never the game that’s on in your town...your town never clears the Jacksonville game” (08:05).

• Jacksonville Travel Advisory:

  • Myron jokes: “Don’t just wander around Jacksonville and feel like you can just stop at any gas station. That would be my advice” (09:15), warning Buffalo fans.
  • Matt: “Stay on the side that you booked your hotel. Keep your windows rolled up...you ain’t got to help nobody this weekend” (10:22).

Notable Quotes:

• Matt: “Nobody wants to say this ... but you can make a strong argument then the last five weeks of the season, Jacksonville looked better than any other team. Can't you?” (07:10)
• Myron: “I couldn’t do it. But Jacksonville—like Buffalo fans—they really, really love this team. That atmosphere is going to be ridiculous...” (10:08)

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Cleveland: The Stigma Deepens, Emmett Golden Joins (13:21 – 16:49)

• Fan Pushback:

  • Matt reads a message equating Myron’s “Cleveland stink” comment to an unwanted, unshakeable affliction (13:40).
  • Myron deflects again: “I was talking about the organization. Specifically the football team, not the people...” (13:55).

• Emmett Golden’s Defense:

  • Emmett (ESPN, Cleveland) calls in, conceding the “Browns stink” but defending the city: “That organization will leave a stench on you. No question. They’ve earned...the way we look at them. But Cleveland’s a beautiful place. Myron’s from the Midwest. He knows how we get down...” (14:19).
  • Emmett’s 30-second tourism pitch features caveats: “It is beautiful in the summer, spring and fall... you might want to get a winter home… downtown is very walkable...” (15:13).
  • Matt notes, “In your 30-second commercial for Cleveland, you had to bring two caveats... that is not the best advertisement for a city” (15:41).

• Walking Around Town:

  • They banter about the realities/safety of walking around Midwest cities at night, and Matt offers to take Emmett on a Cleveland night walk (16:12).

Notable Quotes:

• Emmett: “I wouldn’t walk around New York after one…” (16:08)
• Myron: “If he does that [wanders], they’re going to be interviewing us on Dateline. If he does that, starts walking around Cleveland after one—soon as they hear his voice: ‘You’re not around here.’” (16:26)

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Are Matt & Myron ‘Blue Collar’? (16:49 – 18:09)

• Both quip about their blue-collar credentials:
  • Myron claims “blue collar” status based on his Midwestern roots and a summer in a factory (“Blood, sweat and tears in that factory” - 17:42).
  • Matt's unimpressed: “I delivered furniture, but I’m not walking around acting like I’m a furniture deliverer.” (18:04)

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Packers Coaching Rumors: Schefter’s Report, Tomlin vs. Harbaugh Debate (18:09 – 22:57)

• Adam Schefter’s Update:

  • Green Bay must decide on Head Coach Matt LaFleur (“...significant decision...whether to extend Malafleur’s contract...or to move on from him” - 18:26). John Harbaugh becomes top candidate if released.
  • Matt finds Schefter’s “flowchart” explanation convoluted but funny, asking if Schefter talks that way at dinner (19:28, 19:51).
  • Myron explains Bob Harlan’s and his son’s connections in the Packers/Harbaugh situation—”He is a legend among Packers fans...his son represents John Harbaugh...” (19:51).

• Who Would You Hire: Tomlin or Harbaugh?

  • Matt: “If I had a great quarterback, I think I would want Harbaugh. If I was a franchise still looking for my way...I would want Tomlin.” (22:14)

Notable Quotes:

• Matt: “Do you think Adam Schefter talks like that when you bring him to your house?” (19:28)
• Myron (on firing LaFleur): “He may get fired based on who’s available...if you think Harbaugh or potentially Tomlin is an upgrade, you have to make that move...” (20:14)

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Rapid-Fire 'Sunday Headlines' Segment (24:09 – 35:00)

Trey Young Traded to Wizards (24:47 – 26:35)

• Matt: “Can’t think of a more perfect Wizards player than Trey Young—he’s exactly the kind of guy who could shoot a lot without...having to worry about winning” (25:03).
• Myron: “He’s also an example of the NBA just moving away from smaller guards” (26:03).

FA Cup Giant Killing: Macclesfield Upsets Crystal Palace (26:57 – 29:46)

• Matt summarizes the upset: “For only the sixth time in the history of the FA Cup, a non professional team beat a Premier League team...one of the biggest upsets in the history of sports.” (27:14)
• Myron (deadpan): “If you actually watched the match and cared about it the way that I did, the speed on the edges, the focus of the goalie...it was a different body language...” (28:20). (Clearly pretending, great comedic moment.)

Kentucky Football Commitment Stunt (30:18 – 32:40)

• Matt narrates how transfer Elijah “Bo” Barnes committed publicly at a UK basketball game: “I think...that’s one of the coolest ways I’ve ever heard to announce a commitment.” (30:35)
• Myron jokes: “...about 19% of the kids growing up in Texas are nicknamed Bo...just makes it easier. Everybody’s Bo.” (32:14)

Jerry Jones on Super Bowls and Mortality (33:03 – 34:52)

• Jerry (clip): “My goal in life is to retire as the owner that won the most Super Bowls...we’ve got three...how many more do I have to go as a single owner? Bob’s got...six” (33:03)
• Myron quips: “Maybe if they freeze him and bring him back. I don't know how he's gonna do it in this lifetime..." (34:01)
• “He talks...the way guys would talk when they were questioned by Matlock.” (34:01)
• Matt: “He may not have the final choice of retirement. I think the Lord is the one that will decide when that will happen.” (34:41)

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49ers vs. Eagles Playoff Preview (38:00 – 43:44)

• Quarterback Trust Issues:

  • Matt baffled by Philadelphia’s lack of support: “How many quarterbacks do I trust more than Jalen Hurts... Why would I not believe in the Eagles?” (40:00)
  • Myron: “You don’t believe because you don’t think we’re watching the same guy in Jalen Hurts who was the Super Bowl MVP a year ago. I think that's why...” (41:00)

• Ugly Wins, Defensive Prowess:

  • “This is where the Eagles can win ugly. That Bills game was a great example... just let their defense take over.” (39:23)
  • “San Francisco looked terrible against the best scoring defense in the league in Seattle last week...” (39:46)

• Rest vs. Rust:

  • Debate on resting starters in Week 18. Myron: “I think Nick Sirianni... prefers the rest over any kind of scenario.” (42:54)
  • Matt: “I just don’t like the decision. I think they should have gone for it...” (43:44)

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Classic Matt & Myron Banter (37:24 – 38:52, 44:01 – 44:53)

Stacy’s Mom / 80s Rock Tangent:

• Myron randomly sings “Stacy’s Mom” (37:24).
• They realize he confused it with an 80s song, perhaps “Jesse’s Girl,” and joke about Myron’s age (38:52, 44:30–44:53).

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Myron: “Lake Erie is like the last of the Great Lakes...they're just glad to be among the Great Lakes in many ways.” (04:46)
• Matt: “Of all the games...I could see the Bills winning by two touchdowns or the Jaguars winning by two touchdowns and neither result would oddly surprise me.” (06:01)
• Emmett Golden: “You do get brown stink on you...that organization will leave a stench on you.” (14:19)
• Matt (to Emmett): “In your 30-second commercial for Cleveland, you had to bring two caveats...that is not the best advertisement for a city.” (15:41)
• Myron: “Blood, sweat and tears in that factory.” (17:42)
• Matt: “Can't think of a more perfect Wizards player than Trey Young…” (25:03)
• Myron (on Jerry Jones): “Maybe if they freeze him and bring him back. I don't know how he's gonna do it in this lifetime...” (34:01)
• Matt (on Eagles): “How many quarterbacks do I trust more than Jalen Hurts?...Why would I not believe in the Eagles?” (40:00)
• Myron: “You don’t believe because you don’t think we’re watching the same guy in Jalen Hurts who was the Super Bowl MVP a year ago.” (41:00)

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Key Takeaways

• Great Lakes Rankings spark civic pride and gentle ribbing.
• NFL Playoff Wild Card preview spotlights the unpredictability of Bills-Jaguars and advancing narratives for Trevor Lawrence.
• Cleveland discourse frames the difference between team and city legacy, with local defense from Emmett Golden—and repeated acknowledgement that the “stink” is organizational, not civic.
• Packers coaching rumors heat up; John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin theorized as better options than Matt LaFleur.
• Headlines segment covers Trey Young’s fit in Washington, a major English FA Cup upset, unique college football commitment stunts, and Jerry Jones’s Super Bowl dreams.
• NFC Playoff preview dissects why Philly gets no love while highlighting defensive struggles for San Francisco.

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This episode is quintessential Matt & Myron: a blend of sports insight, dry Midwestern humor, listener participation, and unscripted life observations, making it as much about the culture around sports as sports themselves.

Transcript

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[Myron Metcalf]

This is Matt and Myon, the podcast.

[Matt Meyer]

I was right about that. I said Dabo Sweeney was the worst and now the world has come around to my position. But I was early on, the dabo is the worst way before everybody else.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, but you said to one of his former players, though, I mean, that's the problem.

[Matt Meyer]

I asked the guy, is Dabbo the worst? That's what I. He said. He asked somebody simple question and answer. I said, is he the worst? And he goes, no, he's not. And so that was that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Hello, sir. Is the person you admire love and respect maybe more than anybody? Are they terrible?

[Matt Meyer]

Matt Myers, presented by Progressive Insurance. Protect your home and auto save. When you bundle, get a quote at Progressive D. Myron said that if you coach in Cleveland, you get the stink of Cleveland on you and you can't get it out. So John in Cleveland called to try to take up for this city next to the lake. John, are you mad about Myron saying you have Cleveland stink on you?

[Myron Metcalf]

I didn't say it like that, but go ahead, John there. Yeah, you couldn't get to.

[Matt Meyer]

Any time you're ready, John. We're at your speed, so I'm sorry.

[Emmett Golden]

Let'S turn my phone down.

[Caller from Cleveland]

I'm from Cleveland.

[Emmett Golden]

I'm a little slow, right, Meyer?

[Caller from Cleveland]

But anyways, our town, we have a great town.

[Myron Metcalf]

We've.

[Caller from Cleveland]

We're suffering a little bit with our front office and trying to find the right. The right stick, but.

[Matt Meyer]

All right, John, let's say you're on the Cleveland Board of Tourism. Okay, let's say you're on the Cleveland Board of Tourism. I'm giving you 30 seconds to sell Cleveland to me. Ready? One, two, three, go. I feel like that's your argument. Thank you very much. 859-280-2287. You're not helping, man. That's the number of my show, 888.

[Myron Metcalf]

I didn't say the town was bad, by the way. I said the organization is what I don't trust, by the way, John and.

[Matt Meyer]

Cleveland did not do a good job. Let's try Tom in Cleveland. Tom and Cleveland go.

[Caller from Cleveland]

Hey, fellows, how you Doing good.

[Matt Meyer]

What's up?

[Caller from Cleveland]

I was just calling to respond to what you said about Cleveland. I think Cleveland are great, and the fans are great. They got the horrible owner front office. Their draft picks are bad, and Cleveland is one of the great places in the country. We got great parks, great water, great lakes. Anything you want to do.

[Myron Metcalf]

Amusement park.

[Matt Meyer]

Just so far. You seem like a wonderful man, Tom. Do you have. Do you have great water? Because when I go by the water, it kind of smells. Are you telling me the water is actually great?

[Myron Metcalf]

This is not what I said at all.

[Caller from Cleveland]

Lake Erie is a great lake. It's a good body of water. We got a lot of nice inland lakes. Fishing, hunting. I mean, you got everything you can do in Cleveland. A good cost of living. So there's everything you can do here. Good, good people, good food, restaurants.

[Myron Metcalf]

All right.

[Matt Meyer]

I like that. That feel like that's a good sales job. So you feel like Myron unfairly maligned yourself.

[Myron Metcalf]

I was talking about the organization. I will say Lake Erie is like the last of the Great Lakes. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if we put it on the list with all the.

[Matt Meyer]

How do you rank. How do you rank the Great Lakes? First of all, can you name number one?

[Myron Metcalf]

Lake Michigan. Number one.

[Matt Meyer]

Name all five of them?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes. Number one. Lake Michigan is number one. Grew up around Lake Michigan. Number two, Lake Superior. Beautiful. If you haven't had a chance to go up to Lake Superior from there, I'd say Lake Ontario.

[Matt Meyer]

Probably number three.

[Myron Metcalf]

Number three, Lake Huron. I think number four, and I think number five is probably, like, Erie.

[Matt Meyer]

All right, so you have a definitive Great Lake ranking.

[Myron Metcalf]

I grew up Great.

[Matt Meyer]

Lake Michigan, Superior, Ontario, Huron, Erie.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think so. I think most people would agree with that. Like, Erie's just glad to be among the Great Lakes in many ways. Like, so you're saying no, you know, Erie's kind of like, you know, Missouri and the sec, like, they don't say a whole lot. They just kind of like. Except, I'll tell you what.

[Matt Meyer]

No, you're. Erie is like that guy in all for One we talked about.

[Myron Metcalf]

Leave that dude alone. I don't want to go back to you.

[Matt Meyer]

Erie's like. And all for one, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

I'll leave him alone there.

[Matt Meyer]

He's like, in New Kids on the Block, you know, one of the dudes and New Kids on the block was like, 35, and the others were in their early 20s. I think Jonathan Knight is like, 35.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, he was the same.

[Matt Meyer]

Erie is like, Jonathan Knight a little.

[Myron Metcalf]

Bit okay, but by the way, I was just talking about the organization, not the city itself, the team.

[Matt Meyer]

I was talking. I was talking about the city Bills in the Jaguars today at 1 o'. Clock. Josh Allen goes down to Jacksonville to play against the other Josh Allen in a game where Bill started as the 1.5-point favorite, has now flipped to Jacksonville being in a 1 1/2-point favor. Of all the games, Myron, this is the one I. Going into the wild card weekend, I could figure out. The least I could see the Bills winning by two touchdowns or the Jaguars winning by two touchdowns and neither result would oddly surprise me. What about you?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I think anything can happen. I mean, you could tell me that Josh Allen comes out and throws the 300 yards, runs for a couple touchdowns and they find a way to win on the road. You could also tell me that this Jags team keeps winning because they've been in the second half of the season. They made a case that they're the best team in the NFL in the second half of the season. So anything could happen. This is a lot to me, though, for Trevor Lawrence. What it was for Caleb Williams. It wasn't just that Caleb Williams beat the Pack, beat. Won an NFL playoff game. It was who he beat. He beat the Packers. Right. To say, listen, I'm here. It was sort of an I've arrived game for him. And I think the same thing for Trevor Lawrence. He beat Josh Allen. And when a lot of people feel like this has to be Josh Allen's super bowl year, I think that's a statement for the organization, but certainly for a quarterback that a lot of people had given up on too.

[Matt Meyer]

Nobody wants to say this because nobody wants to be the guy that believes in Jacksonville because it feels like you're going to break your heart. But you can make a strong argument then the last five weeks of the season, Jacksonville look better than any other team. Can't you?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's a crazy statement at all. If they weren't Jacksonville.

[Matt Meyer]

Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

There'd be a different narrative about it.

[Matt Meyer]

I think that's totally right. If you took the same team, the same coach, and you place them in, you know, Pittsburgh, you'd be talking about how they were a Super bowl contender. It's something about Jacksonville that makes people want not want to say it. Then I think it was the fact that Liam Cohen seemed like such a dork in his introductory press conference. There's the fact that Trevor Lawrence has been shaky most of his career until this year. And then there's the real fact that outside of Trevor Lawrence, almost no NFL fan can name one other player on the team. That's exactly right. And I think all of those things make people hesitant to believe in Jacksonville.

[Myron Metcalf]

One, they play like 11 games in London in the last couple years. Like, they're always in London and they're.

[Matt Meyer]

Always at 1 o', clock, 6:15am you know, like, watch never the game that's on in your town. Like. Like your town never clears the Jacksonville game.

[Myron Metcalf]

Exactly. So, like, a lot of people haven't seen them.

[Matt Meyer]

Yeah, a lot of people haven't seen him. And then when you have Liam Cohen saying Duvall, you start saying, okay, I don't know that this is. But today is the chance to throw all that away, because if you beat Josh Allen, you've done something America will understand. A playoff win versus Josh Allen.

[Myron Metcalf]

Again, like, Kayla Williams made a national statement with what he did last night. And I think the same thing for Trevor Lawrence. You be Josh Allen, you knock him out of the playoffs. I think there's a case you get the team to beat if you do that in the afc. And I think a lot of people would feel that way because they see this as sort of a clear path for Josh Allen with Patrick Mahomes out of playoffs. Let me give a little message, though, to the Buffalo fans who are going to Jacksonville who have their rental cars and you have to fill up for gas at some point. Don't trust your GPS on which gas stations to go to. Don't just wander around Jacksonville and feel like you can just stop at any gas station. That would be my advice.

[Matt Meyer]

Yeah. Stay on. Chances are you're on one side of the river. You don't need to go.

[Myron Metcalf]

Just.

[Matt Meyer]

Just don't wander.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's not. You don't want to be wandering around Jacksonville as a Buffalo.

[Matt Meyer]

Do you think CBS had to give Tom Brady double pay to get him to go call this game today? Listen, no one, like, of all the assignments, do you think he. They had to pay him double pay? And what are the chances? What odds could I get in Vegas in. Tom Brady gets in that pool. Is that off the board?

[Myron Metcalf]

Off the board? It's definitely off the board.

[Matt Meyer]

Definitely off the board. What would I have to give you to get in the pool? I think it looks like the grossest place on earth that. No. Do you see the man in the lucha libre mask just laying in there last game?

[Myron Metcalf]

I couldn't. I could. I couldn't do it. But listen, I will say Jacksonville a lot like Buffalo fans, they really, really love this team and that atmosphere is going to be ridiculous for this game, man. Just stay if they win, stay on.

[Matt Meyer]

The side that you booked your hotel. That's I I think that's yeah, keep.

[Myron Metcalf]

Your windows rolled up. You ain't got to help nobody this weekend. Just I'm just telling you what I know.

[Matt Meyer]

I'm just saying are coming up next here. I'm Matt my.

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[Matt Meyer]

Matt and Myron the podcast It's Matt Meyer presented by Progressive Insurance. Protect your home and auto save when you bundle get a [e-mail] Myron said that you get the stink of Cleveland on you and it stays forever. One person writes in him and goes, I'm very offended at Myron Metcalf. He makes.

[Myron Metcalf]

I said the organization.

[Matt Meyer]

It makes it sound like being in Cleveland is like having herpes and I don't appreciate it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I was talking about the organization.

[Matt Meyer]

That's what this.

[Myron Metcalf]

Specifically the football team, not the people, by the way, I was talking specifically about.

[Matt Meyer]

I mean, it sounds like this is what people think, you say. And I feel like that's. I feel like that says a lot. Now, Emmett golden is an ESPN host from Hammer and Emmett, and he lives in Cleveland. And I would assume you are very angry, Emmett, at your friend Meyer Metcalf saying that Cleveland stink on people.

[Emmett Golden]

I'm not exactly mad at Myron because he did later on straighten it out. You do get brown stink on you. That is. That's 100% fair. That organization will leave a stench on you. No question. They've earned their. The way we look at them. But Cleveland's a beautiful place. Myron's from the Midwest. He knows how we get down in the Midwest.

[Matt Meyer]

All right? So I'm gonna give you.

[Myron Metcalf]

I love the city.

[Matt Meyer]

I'm gonna give you a chance to do what that one caller struggled in doing. Emmett golden is now part of the tourism board. You may already be that you're. You are a very beloved member of the Cleveland community, which is worth like 23 cents. So a lot of people. It's not. No, it's not.

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It's worth.

[Matt Meyer]

So, Emmett, I want you to act like you are the head of the Cleveland Tourism board and give a 30 second on why Cleveland is a good place.

[Emmett Golden]

Well, first of all, it is beautiful in the summer, spring and fall. You might want to get a winter home. But, Matt, I'm sure you have the disposable income to get one of those, so it shouldn't be a problem downtown Is very walkable. You can walk to a basketball game, to a baseball game, to a football game. You might not want to be walking around after about 1 o' clock in the morning, but during the day it is a very safe place.

[Matt Meyer]

Okay, but I just want you to know, Even in your 32nd commercial for Cleveland, you had to bring two caveats. One, get out of here in the winter and to stay home at night. That is not what's every place in the Midwest. That is not the best advertisement for a city.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's most cities in the Midwest as a matter of let them walk around after one o' clock if they want.

[Matt Meyer]

To go explore, go have fun.

[Emmett Golden]

I wouldn't walk around New York after one.

[Matt Meyer]

Now you're just being a wimp. I walk around. Listen, I'm from Kentucky, Emmett, and I, I'll walk around, I'll walk around Cleveland. It's all about how you talk to people. I'll help. If you want me to take you walking around all Cleveland, I'm glad to do it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Emmett, they're gonna be interviewing us on Dateline. If he does that, that's gonna be the problem. We're gonna be the, we're gonna be the first two interviews on dateline.

[Emmett Golden]

If he does that, starts walking around Cleveland after one. Soon as they hear his voice, they like, you're not around here. You got to be crazy. We're leaving.

[Myron Metcalf]

Exactly.

[Matt Meyer]

That's exactly right. Thank you very much, my friend.

[Myron Metcalf]

Thanks, Emmett.

[Emmett Golden]

I appreciate it, guys.

[Matt Meyer]

Yep, there you go.

[Myron Metcalf]

See, that's my guy, man. No, I, I, I love the midway and what you said most Midwest towns, upper Midwest are like that. Like we're blue cloud, blue collar towns. You know you're not blue collar.

[Matt Meyer]

Don't act like you're blue.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm very blue collar.

[Matt Meyer]

I'm extremely talk into a microphone and write for a living.

[Myron Metcalf]

My, my roots are blue collar. Are you kidding me?

[Matt Meyer]

Okay, that' of a factory worker. But notice the key word.

[Myron Metcalf]

I spent the summer working in a factory. Matt, do you know that you don't spent the summer working in a factory.

[Matt Meyer]

I understand, but you're not claiming you're blue collar right now.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm saying I'm blue collar. I, I have the foundation of a blue collar worker. Yeah, I'm blue collar in that regard.

[Matt Meyer]

Okay. I mean my grandfather worked at a gas station. But I'm not walking around acting like I and blue collar.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think I'm blue collar in the sense of my principles. I think I have blue collar Midwestern principles. And I spent the summer in a factory. You ever done that, Matt? Blood, sweat and tears in that factory.

[Matt Meyer]

Did you visit? You visited the factory?

[Myron Metcalf]

I worked. I worked. I worked in it. 12 hour shifts, I did in a factory.

[Matt Meyer]

That's good. I delivered furniture. But you're not. I'm not walking around acting like I'm a furniture deliverer, but.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, you're missing out regardless.

[Matt Meyer]

Let's talk for a second about the packers and the potential for that job. Adam Schefter was just on NFL Countdown, which is playing on. On. On television, if you get one of those. And here is what he said about Matt LaFleur and his future.

[Adam Schefter]

The Green Bay packers and their new president, Ed Policy, have a significant decision to make here in the coming days, and that is whether to extend Malaflor's contract. He's currently got one one year remaining. Or to move on from him. If they moved on from him, he automatically would go near the top of the coaches available and shake up this current head coaching cycle yet again. Notice how we said this belongs to the packers president, Ed Policy. Well, the packers former president back in the day was a man by the name of Bob Harlan. Bob Harlan's son, Brian Harlan, represents John Harbaugh. John Harbaugh is a Midwestern guy who has a home in the Upper Peninsula. And a lot of people around the league have been wondering if the packers decide to go in a different direction, if all of a sudden the Green Bay packers might vault to the top of John Harbaugh's list as the top available choice for him.

[Matt Meyer]

Do you think Adam Schefter talks like that when you bring him to your house? Like, like when you.

[Myron Metcalf]

I do.

[Matt Meyer]

I. Adam Schefter for dinner. Does he go, I am here for dinner at your house. Chicken and rice. I hope he does. I didn't follow the flowchart there. What was the flowchart? Someone Agent Bob Harlan.

[Myron Metcalf]

Bob Harlan is a former team president who was there for the, the first Brett Favre super bowl and some of the glory years as the packers kind of bounce back. He's been attached, though, to the team for, I think almost 50 years. He, he is a legend among packers fans and his. And that's 100% accurate. His son represents John Harbaugh who, Who's obviously available. And I, I said last night they got to get the plane ready for Harbaugh. I, I think to me that's your first call, unless you're waiting to see what happens, maybe with Mike Tomlin. But Matt LaFleur may get fire Matt, not even just because what happened yesterday or even with the job that he's done. He may get fired based on who's available. And if you think Harbaugh or potentially Tomlin is an upgrade, I think you have to make that move in a division that looks a lot tougher than it did before last night.

[Matt Meyer]

That makes sense to me. I think if you, if you told the Packers, I can guarantee you John Harbaugh. Yeah, then I would make that move as well. But I would want to know that because if I were to sit there and say, okay, the coaches that are available, I would put John Harbaugh ahead of Matt Lafleur and I would put Mike Tomlin ahead of Matt LaFleur if he were to become available. But I don't know if I would put anyone else ahead of him for sure. Would you?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know if ahead of him. I think Stefanski would be a fresh start. You know, you need. I mean, when's the last time we saw Stefanski with a really good quarterback, a potentially good quarterback? So I think that marriage could be something. But Harbaugh also said, you know what? I'm going to take my time. I'm going to interview with only a few teams. A lot of guys in this situation, Matt, they've got a job by the end of the week. And clearly this is a guy who I think is waiting to see how this all shakes out. And I think the Packers, Shafter doesn't say that unless he feels like it's a real opportunity, a real thing that could happen.

[Matt Meyer]

No, I agree with you. I think I actually now am going to put my crystal ball pick of John Harbaugh to the packers, thanks to what Shefter says. Because I agree with you. I don't think he says that unless he thinks there's real juice to that, not just like a theoretical or hypothetical situation.

[Myron Metcalf]

Would you want Tomlin or Harbaugh if you had your choice, you get either one of those guys, guaranteed. If you're the packers, who are you taking?

[Matt Meyer]

If I had a great quarterback, I think I would want Harbaugh. If I was a franchise still looking for my way and trying to build, I think I would want Tom. Does that make sense? Because I know Tom.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, but I need a dream base with Tom. But is Jordan love what I mean.

[Matt Meyer]

Then I probably want Harbaugh to answer your question. If I'm Green Bay, if I'm one of these other.

[Myron Metcalf]

They have to think of it maybe different.

[Matt Meyer]

I do think if he comes to your house for dinner. He's like, I would like to thank you for having me to your house for a meal. It says he talks like he's giving a speech. Come on. About wrong.

[Myron Metcalf]

Myron the legend. He's a legend, man.

[Matt Meyer]

I can't get you to say anything. We're gonna do some headlines.

[Myron Metcalf]

I can't get you to get fired.

[Matt Meyer]

Here on Matt. Fired on espn.

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[Matt Meyer]

Matt and Myron the podcast Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. Three playoff games today. You got Bills, Jaguars, Eagles, 49ers, Patriots, Chargers. We will talk more about those latter two games here in a minute. But first, it's not just football going on in the world. There are other things happening, which is why we have to do Sunday headlines. Extra, extra.

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[Matt Meyer]

All right, James, lots of stuff happening in the world of sports. Give us some important ones.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

One of the biggest stories this week happened in the NBA. Trey Young was training to the Washington Wizards. What do you guys think about that trade?

[Matt Meyer]

Young, you get it? Byron used to add it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I don't think that was your best thing. That's not your best thing you've ever done.

[Matt Meyer]

I can't think of a more perfect Wizards player than Trey Young. Like if you were to say to me, who is a player that would play for the Wizards? I would say Trey Young because he's exactly the kind of guy who could shoot a lot without, without having to worry about winning. He's perfect for them. And can we turn the music down?

[Myron Metcalf]

Just the music is louder than it's ever been. You know, I've never heard the music this loud on this show in the background.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

The mix in here is fine. There must just be something wrong with how.

[Matt Meyer]

It's all right. It's okay in the background. It just feels like I'm at a concert while I'm trying to make points.

[Myron Metcalf]

Is the mix Dr. Dre's studio volume like, what. What's the mix? I feel like I'm in the studio making the music with you all. Like, is the band there?

[James (Sports Headlines)]

On, on our end, it sounds perfectly fine.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, on our end, it sounds like the band is right there with you.

[Matt Meyer]

But the rest of the world. I've got a little bit Monica in my life and I can't hear anything else happening. Go ahead, Myron.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

How is it now? Is it okay now?

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[Matt Meyer]

Yes, it's fine now. Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Turn down the subwoofers. So, yeah, Trey. Trey Young. You know who I got a chance to know at Oklahoma? I know his family, so I have a soft spot for Trey Young, and I think he's had a remarkable career to, to this point. I think he's also an example of the NBA just moving away from smaller guards. It's just harder to be a smaller guard when you got a guard SGA and all these other giants as the league's evolving. So I feel like that's more what's happening. And, and, and I hope he has a fresh start in Washington.

[Matt Meyer]

Yeah, I don't know how long he'll be in Washington. I feel like he'll end up getting traded at some point. But in that scenario, you know, I think he'll. He'll score a lot. And Washington wants to lose. So what better player to have if you want to lose than Trey Young shooting 45 shots a game? So I think it, I think it'll work out really well. What's next?

[Myron Metcalf]

All right.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

There are a couple of pretty big upsets in the FA cup third round this weekend, including Macclesfield, who were 14th in the National League north. And they eliminated Holder's Crystal palace, who were 117 places.

[Matt Meyer]

We're going to explain to Myron what all these words mean.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

I'm just, I'm just reading stuff. I don't even know what. You want to explain it to me, too?

[Matt Meyer]

Okay, so the FA Cup, Myron. Do you know. Do we talk about this about once a year? Do you remember the FA Cup, Myron? That's where all the teams in England play each other, no matter where they are on the thing, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Meyer]

And Crystal palace, they won the FA cup last Year. So they are the cup holders. They are in the top division, the Premier League. Macclesfield is in the sixth division. They, it's in like six levels below Crystal Palace. All right, It's a small town of 5,000 people. They play Crystal palace yesterday. They draw them. They drew to get a home game. So it was at their home stadium. It's a beautiful spectacle. The big stars come to the small town and then for only the sixth time in the history of the FA Cup, a non professional team beat a Premier League team. They knocked out the cup holders in one of the biggest upsets in the history of sports. Myron, what do you think about that?

[Myron Metcalf]

Do you believe. And that was the message from the Macclesfield coaching staff before that game, going into that matchup at Crystal Palace. Do you believe. And I think if you actually watched the match and cared about it the way that I did, the speed on the edges, the focus of the goalie, just the way they walked out onto the field, the pitch, pitch, it was a different body language from what Crystal palace had. And I thought that was going to be the difference. And it was interesting.

[Matt Meyer]

It was by ranking the biggest shock in the history of the FA Cup. Here's an interesting thing. Wayne Rooney's brother John is the coach of Macclesfield. Wayne Rooney was on the call of the game and got to see his brother win and then broke down crying. How much? How nice is that?

[Myron Metcalf]

It's incredible. I mean, just to have that connection, I mean, shout out to the Silkman. You know, that's what they're called. The Silkman Maxfield. Is that what they're called? You got to give them a lot of credit. Yes, they're known as the Silkman.

[Matt Meyer]

Just so you know, to get a sense of what Maccles feel. The next game for Crystal palace is against Manchester United. Would you like to know the next game for Macclesfield?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Meyer]

Against a team called Workshop Town.

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[James (Sports Headlines)]

And they from the North Pole.

[Myron Metcalf]

Is that where Santa makes his toys?

[Matt Meyer]

I don't know. I don't know where it works.

[Myron Metcalf]

You just know who was in charge of that city. When they came up with these names like, that was like, man, yeah. Come with a name. Well, we got a workshop over there.

[Matt Meyer]

Yeah, we're going. We were a town. Right. So how about Workshop Town? Congratulations, Macclesfield. And for a historic giant win for the Silkman on Moss Rose ground in Macclesville, England. What's next?

[James (Sports Headlines)]

All right. Texas linebacker, transfer, transfer Elijah Barnes committed to Kentucky yesterday. He committed at the basketball game to Kentucky head coach Will Stein in front of the student section. Stein then announced the commitment to this to the student section. And everyone went. Went crazy.

[Matt Meyer]

Yeah. So he tell. He tells the coach at the basketball game, myron, I'm committing to Kentucky. The basketball coach then goes to the student section and announces it and the students go crazy. And he goes up and celebrates in the student section with the students. I think, Myron, that's one of the coolest ways I've ever heard to announce a commitment. What would be the way you would want to announce your commitment?

[Myron Metcalf]

I want to come down from the rafters like Sting. You know, that's personally what I would want to do. I want them to announce me. No, that, that's cool. And you know, you know, Will Stein shout out to him to. I'm sure he had an idea that he was committing, but to do it in person like that is pretty cool. I'm sure also Will Stein whispered some numbers to him that he enjoyed.

[Matt Meyer]

Oh, wait a minute. You think there were numbers that were part of this and not just the love of the Wildcats?

[Myron Metcalf]

It was, it was some love, but some, some love of his bank account too. But I, what I appreciate is Kentucky couldn't get this situation pre nil, right. And now you're able to compete with the best teams in the country. This is what people hate about nil. When the Indiana's, the Kentucky's are competing with kids who usually went to four or five schools in the past generation.

[Matt Meyer]

I do, I do have one question about Elijah Barnes, though. His name's Elijah Barnes, but he has a nickname. His name's Elijah Barnes. You would think maybe his name nickname is like Eli or Jaw. He goes by. His nickname is Bo.

[Myron Metcalf]

What?

[Matt Meyer]

How do you think you go from Elijah Barnes to your nickname is Bo?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I don't know where he's from, but I can imagine he's from one of eight states where he's from. Texas. Well, about 19% of the kids growing up in Texas are nicknamed Bo. Right. So I think that's part of it. They just kind of call you Bo. When you, when you start playing sports, rather than learn your name, they just say you're Bo. It just makes it easier. Everybody's Bo. Yeah. So they just come up with a nickname right away.

[Matt Meyer]

All right, fair enough. What's next?

[James (Sports Headlines)]

Yeah, I just want to play this Jerry Jones bite from earlier this week about him, him talking about winning Super Bowls.

[Matt Meyer]

All right.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

All right, well, maybe we won't play that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Are you going to play it?

[James (Sports Headlines)]

I have to I have to vamp for a second.

[Myron Metcalf]

I got it now.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

Okay, so we're gonna play it now.

[Matt Meyer]

There we go.

[Jerry Jones]

My goal in life is to retire as the owner that won the most Super Bowls. That's my goal, to be retired in the NFL as the owner that won the most Super Bowls. We've got three. How many more do I have to go as a single owner? Bob's got how many? Six. So I've got.

[Myron Metcalf]

I've got work to do.

[Jerry Jones]

Got work to do. I got work to do, but at least I'm up to the second rung in the ladder.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

To be fair to Cameron, there were several weird things that Jerry Jones said this week, but that was one of them. What do you guys think?

[Matt Meyer]

Jerry Jones is 83 years old. He's got three Super Bowls. He needs to. He wants to retire as the person with the most, which means he needs four more now.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Matt Meyer]

Do you think 83 year old Jerry Jones can retire, can keep going as the owner with the most Super Bowls and win four more before his passing?

[Myron Metcalf]

Maybe if they freeze him and bring him back. I don't know how he's gonna do it in this lifetime. You know, he always talks, Matt, the way guys would talk when they were questioned by Matlock, like when Matlock would be on the case and bring them in for, like, questioning and they'd be sitting there and, like, trying to plead their case. That's how he talks. Like he's in an interrogation room a little bit. But unless they have some magical way to extend his life for another 50 years, I don't. I don't think it's happened. You got.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

You guys ever see the. The video of Ric Flair, like, back in like 2007 or something where he's yelling in the ring, I'm never going to retire? Yeah, that's Jerry Jones. He's never. He's just never going to retire because he.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, he won't.

[Matt Meyer]

I mean, he may not have the final choice of retirement. I think the Lord is the one that will decide when that will happen.

[Myron Metcalf]

Wait a minute. Yeah, he made his. He won't retire.

[Matt Meyer]

I don't think he gets to decide when he retires. We all have a final resting place coming to us at some point.

[Myron Metcalf]

Joel Osteen. I mean, is this. Is this. Is this a message you're preparing for service after the show?

[Matt Meyer]

Like, y' all are acting.

[Myron Metcalf]

Reverend Matthew.

[Matt Meyer]

Hang on. Just. Y' all are acting. Like, what's going to keep Jerry from doing it is when he wants to voluntarily step away, he's 83 years old.

[Myron Metcalf]

I just. Is this your, you know, revival message?

[Matt Meyer]

Is this, I'm just saying for all of you listening, including you, Meyer Metcalf, you never know what's going to come. It might be time for you to get right with God.

[Myron Metcalf]

Is there miracle water attached to this for 1999 and for 1990, 90c payments of 1999.

[Matt Meyer]

I have a prayer where you can, you can help. There you go. Those are your Sunday headlines with Matt and Myron. We're going to look ahead 49ers and Eagles Saquon and Jalen against Kyle Shanahan. That's next here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio.

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[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myon the podcast.

[Matt Meyer]

It's Matt Myon here on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. We're going to do King of the Mountain here in just a little bit. Dr. Pepper, call in line 888 say ESPN. Don't forget about that.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm in love with Stacy's mom.

[Matt Meyer]

Why are you singing this? I mean, you don't know any as you call it. White people rock. How do you know Stacy? No, everybody knows a weird song for you to know.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, everybody know the video. Everybody saw the video when you were, I don't know, 11, 12 years old. You know, I think you were older.

[Matt Meyer]

Than 11 or 12. I don't think you're quite as young as you like to play. Let's see what Year Did Stacy's mom.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I was young. I was young.

[Matt Meyer]

Stacy's mom. First of all, what year were you born? Born? Meyer Metcalf.

[Myron Metcalf]

Tell me what, tell me what year it came out.

[Matt Meyer]

No, no, no, I didn't ask you. I asked you what year were you born?

[Myron Metcalf]

I was born. I was born in the 80s.

[Matt Meyer]

Early 80s.

[Myron Metcalf]

Right, early 80s, yep.

[Matt Meyer]

Early 80s. Stacy's mom came out in 2003, which means you were. Which means you are a fully grown adult.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, wait a minute. I thought it was like 1993.

[Matt Meyer]

You were a fully grown adult lusting.

[Myron Metcalf]

After this person of a different video.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

You were.

[Myron Metcalf]

I thought it came out at like.

[James (Sports Headlines)]

Three years old probably.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Meyer]

I think you. So you were born in 1980. I think you're thinking of White Snake here or Here I come again on my own with Tawny Contained.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, I'm thinking of the old school with the. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, maybe I'm thinking of a different.

[Matt Meyer]

Stacy's mom is you.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I was a little older.

[Matt Meyer]

You might have actually dated Stacy's mom. You're so old.

[Myron Metcalf]

I didn't realize. I swear. I thought it came out like 1994.

[Matt Meyer]

Eight, eight, eight. Say ESPN 49ers Eagles play at 430 today on Fox. The Eagles, of course you don't hear it talked about like this, but they're the defending champs and no, I mean nobody gives them the respect you would normally give the defending champs. They are a 6 point favorite today. 49ers come in banged up, but the Eagles haven't played well, some would argue all season. How do you see this thing playing out, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean to me this is where like the Eagles. And again, I think this style kind of favors this kind of situation. They can win ugly. That Bills game was like a great example of I think what they can do really against anybody. Low scoring game, bring it down to the fourth quarter and just kind of let their defense take over. San Francisco looked terrible against the best defense, scoring defense in the league in Seattle last week. And this is the fifth best scoring defense in the NFL. Brock Purdy just couldn't get anything done against Seattle. And I think if he has the same struggles against Philly, Philly definitely wins this game.

[Matt Meyer]

Yeah, I, I have been shocked at how little everyone believes in the Eagles, specifically Eagles fans. I mean, Eagles fans, Eagles fans have no belief whatsoever in their team at all. And I don't really understand it. I look at the NFC and I go, okay, how many quarterbacks do I trust more than Jalen Hurts. Yeah, I guess I trust Matthew Stafford more, but they almost lost yesterday. I. I mean, I love Caleb Williams, but I think Jalen hurts. I trust him just as much. Sam Darnold. Am I going to try? And then Brock Purdy. Like, why would I not believe in the Eagles? I. I still believe there's a decent chance the Eagles get hot here down the stretch and they're playing in the super bowl coming up here in a few weeks.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think you don't believe because you don't think we're watching the same guy in Jalen Hurts who was the Super Bowl MVP a year ago. I think that's why, like, you don't.

[Matt Meyer]

See this really changed. They. I mean, honestly.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I mean, if it's on the field, he's just not. He hasn't had the same kind of performance consistently. I think also all of the locker room stuff with AJ Brown, I think people have been focused so much on the off the field storylines, and I think the biggest thing probably isn't even Jalen Hurts or A.J. brown or the drama. It's Saquon Barkley goes from being the most unstoppable force we've seen in recent memory to a guy who obviously isn't having that kind of a performance because teams are really focusing on him and trying to stop him. So I think the Eagles, though, can still win the NFC and get to the super bowl. And San Francisco has a lot to figure out with that defense.

[Matt Meyer]

San Francisco's defense has been awful, which means. But Philadelphia's offense has been awful. How many points does it take to win this game? Just raw points. How many do you have to score either team?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think if you're at 17, you.

[Matt Meyer]

Think 17 wins a game.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's probably 17. Because again, remember before that Seattle game, San Francisco had one of the hottest offenses in the. In the league, and then Seattle just destroyed them. Right. And just stopped them from looking like the team they'd been in so many weeks before that. Can Philly do that to Brock Purdy? Yeah, I think they can. At the same time, if he gets going, I think there's a chance that they win this game, but he's got to be really good.

[Matt Meyer]

Is this a game where they look back and they wish they hadn't rested the players in week 18 where they're playing instead of playing a Packers team that maybe they would have had a better chance in being the 2 seed? Is this a game that win or lose? Because if they win now, they have to Go to Chicago instead of hosting Chicago. Is this a game where they look back and go, maybe we shouldn't arrested our players in week 18?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't think so. Because I think what they did is they created a buy for their best players knowing they weren't going to get it. They knew they weren't going to get the number one seed, so they gave it to the top players on that team. So I think Nick Sirianni and he talked about this, I think prefers the rest over any kind of scenario. I do. Because who scares you in this NFC? You had a Chicago team that was down by 18, and if you had a competent coaching staff, they would have won that game. We wouldn't even be talking about the Eagles possibly playing Chicago next week. So I think this is a very winnable nfc. The Rams should have lost to the Panthers. Right? The Panthers are the ones who messed up that game. Seattle's pretty good, but there's no one in the NFC that makes the Eagles feel like, oh no, they're unbeatable. So I think that's why Nick Sirianna did it as well.

[Matt Meyer]

Yeah, I, I, I do too. I just don't like the decision. I think you, I think you, they should have gone for it. I think it would have been an easier, an easier path for them. Now, Stacy's mom comes out in 2003. You would have been 23 years old.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I was not born in 1980.

[Matt Meyer]

I was born 83 in the stadium. The Stacy's mom video. Rachel Hunter, who was the actress playing her mom, was 34. So like literally you all were essentially the same age.

[Myron Metcalf]

The same age. I thought that came out like 94. I'm thinking of another video, Dan. I think not. Not Stacy's mom. It's another one. I don't know which one.

[Matt Meyer]

I think it's yet another example of you trying to give off the impression girl. Yeah, I think he was talking about Jesse's girl. That's exactly right.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's what I was talking about.

[Matt Meyer]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

And when did that come out?

[Matt Meyer]

And what year did Jesse's girl come out?

[Myron Metcalf]

When did Jesse's girl come out?

[Matt Meyer]

I want to say mid to late 80s.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's what I was talking about. I was talking about Jesse's girl, not Stacy's mom.

[Matt Meyer]

Jesse's girl. Well, Jesse's girl. It couldn't have been that. That came out before you were born. That came out in 1981.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's one of those, man. I don't know if I call 888.

[Matt Meyer]

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