Transcript

Matt Meyer (0:00)

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Myron Metcalf (0:05)

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Matt Meyer (0:08)

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Myron Metcalf (0:10)

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Myron Metcalf (0:31)

This is Matt and Myon, the podcast.

Matt Meyer (0:35)

I was right about that. I said Dabo Sweeney was the worst and now the world has come around to my position. But I was early on, the dabo is the worst way before everybody else.

Myron Metcalf (0:48)

Yeah, but you said to one of his former players, though, I mean, that's the problem.

Matt Meyer (0:51)

I asked the guy, is Dabbo the worst? That's what I. He said. He asked somebody simple question and answer. I said, is he the worst? And he goes, no, he's not. And so that was that.

Myron Metcalf (1:05)

Hello, sir. Is the person you admire love and respect maybe more than anybody? Are they terrible?

Matt Meyer (1:16)

Matt Myers, presented by Progressive Insurance. Protect your home and auto save. When you bundle, get a quote at Progressive D. Myron said that if you coach in Cleveland, you get the stink of Cleveland on you and you can't get it out. So John in Cleveland called to try to take up for this city next to the lake. John, are you mad about Myron saying you have Cleveland stink on you?

Myron Metcalf (1:39)

I didn't say it like that, but go ahead, John there. Yeah, you couldn't get to.

Matt Meyer (1:47)

Any time you're ready, John. We're at your speed, so I'm sorry.

Emmett Golden (1:51)

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron (Jan 11, 2026)

Hour 2: Lake Erie is Overrated – Detailed Episode Summary

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the world of sports while maintaining the show’s trademark banter, sarcasm, and offbeat humor. Main topics include debates about the perception of Cleveland and Lake Erie, wild card implications for the NFL playoff picture, head coach rumors, significant moments in soccer, Trey Young’s NBA trade, and a sprinkle of friendly personal jabs. Matt Meyer and Myron Metcalf are joined by ESPN Cleveland’s Emmett Golden and the Headline team, creating a lively, multi-faceted discussion that’s as much about sports culture as it is about the games themselves.

Cleveland Debate & Lake Erie Rankings (00:35 – 05:30)

Kicking Things Off:
- Matt jokes about how he was right “early” that Dabo Swinney is “the worst” (00:35–00:48).
- Myron teases Matt for having asked a former Swinney player if Swinney is the worst, which Matt frames as a “simple question” (00:51).
Cleveland Stigma:
- Myron’s comment that coaching in Cleveland gives you a "Cleveland stink" you can't wash off brings in defensive callers from Cleveland (01:16–02:55):
  - John from Cleveland struggles to sell his city, leading Matt to joke about local tourism.
  - Tom from Cleveland valiantly lists Cleveland’s “great parks, great water, great lakes...good people, good food” (03:20).
  - Matt presses on the "great water" point, quipping, “when I go by the water, it kind of smells” (03:27).
  - Myron asserts Lake Erie is the “last of the Great Lakes,” ranking them: Michigan, Superior, Ontario, Huron, and Erie (04:15–04:37).
  - Myron says, “Erie’s just glad to be among the Great Lakes” and compares Lake Erie’s status to Missouri in the SEC (04:46).

Notable Quotes:

Myron: “Lake Erie is like the last of the Great Lakes...Erie’s just glad to be among the Great Lakes in many ways” (04:46)
Matt: “No, Erie is like that guy in All-4-One we talked about...” (05:01)

NFL Wild Card Weekend: Bills vs. Jaguars & Jacksonville’s Image (05:30 – 10:30)

Game Preview & Uncertainty:
- Both agree Bills @ Jaguars is a total toss-up. Matt says, “I could see the Bills winning by two touchdowns or the Jaguars winning by two touchdowns, and neither result would oddly surprise me” (06:01).
- Myron frames this as a defining game for Trevor Lawrence, comparing it to a breakthrough moment for Caleb Williams (06:42).
Jacksonville Credibility Gap:
- Matt discusses how there’s hesitancy around the Jaguars because of brand perception and anonymity outside Trevor Lawrence (07:18).
- Myron: “They play like 11 games in London in the last couple years. Like, they’re always in London” (07:57).
- Matt: “It’s never the game that’s on in your town...your town never clears the Jacksonville game” (08:05).
Jacksonville Travel Advisory:
- Myron jokes: “Don’t just wander around Jacksonville and feel like you can just stop at any gas station. That would be my advice” (09:15), warning Buffalo fans.
- Matt: “Stay on the side that you booked your hotel. Keep your windows rolled up...you ain’t got to help nobody this weekend” (10:22).

Notable Quotes:

Matt: “Nobody wants to say this ... but you can make a strong argument then the last five weeks of the season, Jacksonville looked better than any other team. Can't you?” (07:10)
Myron: “I couldn’t do it. But Jacksonville—like Buffalo fans—they really, really love this team. That atmosphere is going to be ridiculous...” (10:08)

Cleveland: The Stigma Deepens, Emmett Golden Joins (13:21 – 16:49)

Fan Pushback:
- Matt reads a message equating Myron’s “Cleveland stink” comment to an unwanted, unshakeable affliction (13:40).
- Myron deflects again: “I was talking about the organization. Specifically the football team, not the people...” (13:55).
Emmett Golden’s Defense:
- Emmett (ESPN, Cleveland) calls in, conceding the “Browns stink” but defending the city: “That organization will leave a stench on you. No question. They’ve earned...the way we look at them. But Cleveland’s a beautiful place. Myron’s from the Midwest. He knows how we get down...” (14:19).
- Emmett’s 30-second tourism pitch features caveats: “It is beautiful in the summer, spring and fall... you might want to get a winter home… downtown is very walkable...” (15:13).
- Matt notes, “In your 30-second commercial for Cleveland, you had to bring two caveats... that is not the best advertisement for a city” (15:41).
Walking Around Town:
- They banter about the realities/safety of walking around Midwest cities at night, and Matt offers to take Emmett on a Cleveland night walk (16:12).

Notable Quotes:

Emmett: “I wouldn’t walk around New York after one…” (16:08)
Myron: “If he does that [wanders], they’re going to be interviewing us on Dateline. If he does that, starts walking around Cleveland after one—soon as they hear his voice: ‘You’re not around here.’” (16:26)

Are Matt & Myron ‘Blue Collar’? (16:49 – 18:09)

Both quip about their blue-collar credentials:
- Myron claims “blue collar” status based on his Midwestern roots and a summer in a factory (“Blood, sweat and tears in that factory” - 17:42).
- Matt's unimpressed: “I delivered furniture, but I’m not walking around acting like I’m a furniture deliverer.” (18:04)

Packers Coaching Rumors: Schefter’s Report, Tomlin vs. Harbaugh Debate (18:09 – 22:57)

Adam Schefter’s Update:
- Green Bay must decide on Head Coach Matt LaFleur (“...significant decision...whether to extend Malafleur’s contract...or to move on from him” - 18:26). John Harbaugh becomes top candidate if released.
- Matt finds Schefter’s “flowchart” explanation convoluted but funny, asking if Schefter talks that way at dinner (19:28, 19:51).
- Myron explains Bob Harlan’s and his son’s connections in the Packers/Harbaugh situation—”He is a legend among Packers fans...his son represents John Harbaugh...” (19:51).
Who Would You Hire: Tomlin or Harbaugh?
- Matt: “If I had a great quarterback, I think I would want Harbaugh. If I was a franchise still looking for my way...I would want Tomlin.” (22:14)

Notable Quotes:

Matt: “Do you think Adam Schefter talks like that when you bring him to your house?” (19:28)
Myron (on firing LaFleur): “He may get fired based on who’s available...if you think Harbaugh or potentially Tomlin is an upgrade, you have to make that move...” (20:14)

Rapid-Fire 'Sunday Headlines' Segment (24:09 – 35:00)

Trey Young Traded to Wizards (24:47 – 26:35)

Matt: “Can’t think of a more perfect Wizards player than Trey Young—he’s exactly the kind of guy who could shoot a lot without...having to worry about winning” (25:03).
Myron: “He’s also an example of the NBA just moving away from smaller guards” (26:03).

FA Cup Giant Killing: Macclesfield Upsets Crystal Palace (26:57 – 29:46)

Matt summarizes the upset: “For only the sixth time in the history of the FA Cup, a non professional team beat a Premier League team...one of the biggest upsets in the history of sports.” (27:14)
Myron (deadpan): “If you actually watched the match and cared about it the way that I did, the speed on the edges, the focus of the goalie...it was a different body language...” (28:20). (Clearly pretending, great comedic moment.)

Kentucky Football Commitment Stunt (30:18 – 32:40)

Matt narrates how transfer Elijah “Bo” Barnes committed publicly at a UK basketball game: “I think...that’s one of the coolest ways I’ve ever heard to announce a commitment.” (30:35)
Myron jokes: “...about 19% of the kids growing up in Texas are nicknamed Bo...just makes it easier. Everybody’s Bo.” (32:14)

Jerry Jones on Super Bowls and Mortality (33:03 – 34:52)

Jerry (clip): “My goal in life is to retire as the owner that won the most Super Bowls...we’ve got three...how many more do I have to go as a single owner? Bob’s got...six” (33:03)
Myron quips: “Maybe if they freeze him and bring him back. I don't know how he's gonna do it in this lifetime..." (34:01)
“He talks...the way guys would talk when they were questioned by Matlock.” (34:01)
Matt: “He may not have the final choice of retirement. I think the Lord is the one that will decide when that will happen.” (34:41)

49ers vs. Eagles Playoff Preview (38:00 – 43:44)

Quarterback Trust Issues:
- Matt baffled by Philadelphia’s lack of support: “How many quarterbacks do I trust more than Jalen Hurts... Why would I not believe in the Eagles?” (40:00)
- Myron: “You don’t believe because you don’t think we’re watching the same guy in Jalen Hurts who was the Super Bowl MVP a year ago. I think that's why...” (41:00)
Ugly Wins, Defensive Prowess:
- “This is where the Eagles can win ugly. That Bills game was a great example... just let their defense take over.” (39:23)
- “San Francisco looked terrible against the best scoring defense in the league in Seattle last week...” (39:46)
Rest vs. Rust:
- Debate on resting starters in Week 18. Myron: “I think Nick Sirianni... prefers the rest over any kind of scenario.” (42:54)
- Matt: “I just don’t like the decision. I think they should have gone for it...” (43:44)

Classic Matt & Myron Banter (37:24 – 38:52, 44:01 – 44:53)

Stacy’s Mom / 80s Rock Tangent:

Myron randomly sings “Stacy’s Mom” (37:24).
They realize he confused it with an 80s song, perhaps “Jesse’s Girl,” and joke about Myron’s age (38:52, 44:30–44:53).

Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

Myron: “Lake Erie is like the last of the Great Lakes...they're just glad to be among the Great Lakes in many ways.” (04:46)
Matt: “Of all the games...I could see the Bills winning by two touchdowns or the Jaguars winning by two touchdowns and neither result would oddly surprise me.” (06:01)
Emmett Golden: “You do get brown stink on you...that organization will leave a stench on you.” (14:19)
Matt (to Emmett): “In your 30-second commercial for Cleveland, you had to bring two caveats...that is not the best advertisement for a city.” (15:41)
Myron: “Blood, sweat and tears in that factory.” (17:42)
Matt: “Can't think of a more perfect Wizards player than Trey Young…” (25:03)
Myron (on Jerry Jones): “Maybe if they freeze him and bring him back. I don't know how he's gonna do it in this lifetime...” (34:01)
Matt (on Eagles): “How many quarterbacks do I trust more than Jalen Hurts?...Why would I not believe in the Eagles?” (40:00)
Myron: “You don’t believe because you don’t think we’re watching the same guy in Jalen Hurts who was the Super Bowl MVP a year ago.” (41:00)

Key Takeaways

Great Lakes Rankings spark civic pride and gentle ribbing.
NFL Playoff Wild Card preview spotlights the unpredictability of Bills-Jaguars and advancing narratives for Trevor Lawrence.
Cleveland discourse frames the difference between team and city legacy, with local defense from Emmett Golden—and repeated acknowledgement that the “stink” is organizational, not civic.
Packers coaching rumors heat up; John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin theorized as better options than Matt LaFleur.
Headlines segment covers Trey Young’s fit in Washington, a major English FA Cup upset, unique college football commitment stunts, and Jerry Jones’s Super Bowl dreams.
NFC Playoff preview dissects why Philly gets no love while highlighting defensive struggles for San Francisco.

This episode is quintessential Matt & Myron: a blend of sports insight, dry Midwestern humor, listener participation, and unscripted life observations, making it as much about the culture around sports as sports themselves.