Hour 2: Sideline Reporter Myron Stops By

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Hour 2: Sideline Reporter Myron Stops By
Date: November 9, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones, Myron Medcalf, Aaron Goldhammer
Network: ESPN Radio

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Episode Overview

This episode offers a lively and insightful breakdown of the sports world, centered around Myron Metcalf's experience as a sideline reporter for ESPN Radio's Ravens vs. Vikings broadcast. With Myron joining live from Minnesota, co-hosts Matt Jones and Aaron Goldhammer dive into the craft of sideline reporting, preview NFL matchups, discuss viral sports moments, and detour into European soccer and college basketball, all in their signature humorous, energetic tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Realities of Sideline Reporting

(Starts ~00:32)

• Myron’s Sideline Gig

  • Myron joins live from Minnesota, where he’s covering Ravens vs. Vikings as the sideline reporter. Matt pokes fun at Myron’s “broadcast voice” versus his usual Sunday persona.
  • Myron details how sideline reporting is different from their Sunday show, emphasizing professionalism and being the eyes on the field.

• Sideline Hazards & Surprises (02:10 - 03:21)

  • Field awareness is crucial—dodging footballs, players, rogue kicker nets, and giant TV cameras on cranes.
  • “You just got to scramble and hope you don't get tripped up by one of the cords, because that thing will take you out.” (Myron Metcalf, 03:17)

• Getting Injury Updates & “Nosiness” (03:56 - 05:28)

  • Myron explains the “art” of obtaining injury info: hovering near the medical tent, listening to bench chatter, and observing player body language.
  • “You learn to be nosy. So you just kind of stick your head in places...without somebody pulling you aside and saying you're too close.” (Myron Metcalf, 04:17)
  • Matt jokes about “violating HIPAA,” with Myron laughing, “I don't know nothing about hippo...I'm just nosy.” (05:11)

• When Does the Sideline Reporter Shine?

  • In a blowout, the sideline reporter gets called on more to fill airtime with backstories and human interest tidbits.
  • “If it’s a blowout, I gotta come up with stories and information and, you know, I printed out my 10 storylines, so, like, I'm ready.” (Myron Metcalf, 06:10)

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2. NFL Game Previews & Player Stories

(07:31 - 08:28 & 12:38 - 13:54)

• Vikings vs. Ravens Preview (with Lamar Jackson’s Return)

  • Myron expects a close, high-stakes matchup with both teams gaining momentum and key players (like Lamar Jackson and JJ McCarthy) healthy.
  • “You got two teams that need to win this game for a lot of reasons, and they're both kind of turning the corner, it feels like, at the right time.” (Myron Metcalf, 07:45)
  • Matt and Aaron discuss Lamar’s unique star power, doubting past critics who questioned his ability to play quarterback, calling it “one of the dumbest narratives in sports talk history.” (Aaron Goldhammer, 10:15)

• Other NFL Matchups:

  • Quick live check-ins on the Falcons vs. Colts game in Berlin.
  • Aaron highlights tight end Kyle Pitts as an athletic “freak” who flashes talent inconsistently.
  • “Kyle Pitts just has too many games where he catches two balls and all of a sudden they go to Germany and there's Kyle Pitts showing up making plays.” (Aaron Goldhammer, 13:05)

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3. Viral & Offbeat Sports Headlines

(13:54 - 21:46)

a. NIL Money & College Athletes

• Kentucky backup quarterback Zach Calzada’s video taunting a critic (“Garrett”) with $20,000 in hundred dollar bills is discussed:
  • Matt and Aaron marvel at the brazen display, debating the wisdom of holding so much cash and sharing their own stories of unexpectedly large cash sums.
  • “If you did, you would understand that pulling out that wad of cash. I'm sure it's a feeling of, like, how I'm rich.” (Matt Jones, 15:42)
  • Matt adds levity by referencing a legal client who paid a $10,000 retainer in twenties, joking about the thrill and sketchiness.

b. NFL Celebration Fines

• Panthers RB Rico Daddle is fined for a Key & Peele–inspired “two pumps” celebration (not the three the sketch popularized), leading to banter on NFL’s joyless approach to celebrations:
  • “The NFL has no sense of humor. They should...If it had been three pumps, I understand the fine. It was two pumps.” (Matt Jones, 18:40)
  • Aaron quips: “This is like the town in Footloose. You can celebrate, but you cannot gyrate.” (19:11)

c. Ovechkin’s 900th Goal and the Stolen Puck

• Blues goalie Jordan Bennington is accused of “trying to steal” the puck from Alex Ovechkin’s 900th goal, after stuffing it down his pants.
  • “What a move. Like putting the puck down your pants...Brilliant. And third, of course you were trying to steal it. Don’t act like you were saving it for him.” (Matt Jones, 20:19)
  • The crew jokes about hockey memorabilia’s auction value and the logic behind record-breaking collectibles.

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4. American Football Abroad & Basic Geography Humor

(23:35 - 26:56)

• Assessment of American football in Berlin and a brief, comedic tangent on German soccer clubs and British geography:
  • Matt and Aaron discuss why Berlin lacks elite Bundesliga teams, likening it to how famous American teams aren’t always in New York.
  • Aaron admits he previously thought most Premier League clubs were all in or around London:
    • “I thought, you know, 45 minutes in the car, maybe you get to Liverpool? No.” (Aaron Goldhammer, 25:56)
    • Matt needles Aaron’s tourist naivete, “Did you think it was West Virginia?”
    • “Basic British geography by Aaron Goldhammer here on Matt Myron on a Sunday morning.” (Matt Jones, 26:55)

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5. NFL Division Races: AFC North and AFC West

(26:56 - 34:23)

• AFC North

  • The hosts break down the struggles of the division: Lamar’s importance to Baltimore, the Ravens’ defensive issues, and the unexpected decline of the division as a whole.
    • “It used to be this crazy gauntlet. The division kind of stinks this year.” (Aaron Goldhammer, 28:48)
  • Steelers’ chances in Pittsburgh, skepticism about Bengals’ playoff hopes, and playoff tiebreaker scenarios are debated.

• AFC West

  • Preview of Chargers-Steelers as a pivotal game. Debates about Justin Herbert’s enigmatic profile despite LA’s media scene, with Matt noting:
    • “I can't imagine being more anonymous and having that set of circumstances than Justin Herbert is.” (Matt Jones, 31:05)
  • Predictions for Chiefs, Broncos, and Chargers’ playoff futures are evaluated. Matt and Aaron run through each team's closing schedule and likely win totals.

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6. College Basketball “Little Guy” Stories

(36:05 - 41:11)

• Penn State at University of New Haven
  • Matt tells how New Haven (capacity: 867) scheduled a Power 5 team annually, creating buzz and a unique recruiting advantage.
  • “If I were looking at a school to go to and I’m choosing between New Haven and another school like New Haven that doesn’t play Penn State on their campus, I might choose New Haven for that, right?” (Matt Jones, 38:52)
  • Aaron runs through the Northeast Conference lineup (“Who wants to go to Merrimack?”) and Matt riffs on the dour allure of Central Connecticut.
  • “If you’re the University of New Haven, you go...Come on over here to New Haven. We’ve got pizza and we play Penn State at home.” (Matt Jones, 40:41)

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7. NFL Trades & Pettiness

(41:11 - 43:29)

• The show ends on a note of NFL trades and inter-team clauses:
  • Cowboys inserted an “anti-Eagles” clause when trading Micah Parsons—Matt revelling in the drama:
    • “Pettiness. I’m for it...I encourage pettiness.” (Matt Jones, 42:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You don’t want to be a meme. Right. You don’t want to go viral for somebody colliding into you or getting hit in the face with a football.”
  (Myron Metcalf on sideline risks, 02:19)

• “You’re there, but you don’t want them to know you’re there. Like, that’s...that’s the goal.”
  (Myron Metcalf on sideline reporting discretion, 05:22)

• “If it’s a blowout, I gotta come up with stories and information...I printed out my 10 storylines, so like, I’m ready.”
  (Myron Metcalf, on prepping for games, 06:10)

• “Kyle Pitts just has too many games where he catches two balls and all of a sudden they go to Germany and there’s Kyle Pitts showing up making plays.”
  (Aaron Goldhammer, on NFL unpredictability, 13:05)

• “The NFL has no sense of humor. If it had been three pumps, I understand the fine. It was two pumps.”
  (Matt Jones, on celebrating fines, 18:40)

• “Did you think all of England was within 45 minutes of each other. Did you think it was West Virginia?”
  (Matt Jones needling Aaron’s UK geography, 26:02)

• “I encourage pettiness.”
  (Matt Jones on NFL trade stipulations, 42:40)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Sideline Reporting: Hazards & Tactics:
  00:32 – 05:28

• NFL Game Previews (Ravens-Vikings, Falcons-Colts):
  07:31 – 08:45 & 12:38 – 13:54

• Viral Sports Moments (NIL Cash, NFL Celebrations, Ovechkin’s Puck):
  13:54 – 21:46

• Europe Sports Geography Tangent:
  23:35 – 26:56

• NFL Division Deep Dives (AFC North/West):
  26:56 – 34:23

• College Basketball Underdogs:
  36:05 – 41:11

• NFL Trade Pettiness:
  41:11 – 43:29

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Final Thoughts

The episode delivers the perfect mix of behind-the-scenes sports journalism, NFL analysis, viral story breakdowns, and offbeat humor. With Myron’s real-life reporting stories, Matt’s legal anecdotes, and Aaron’s geographic confessions, the show keeps listeners both informed and entertained, capturing the unpredictable energy of live sports radio.

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Transcript

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[Matt Myron]

Is Matt and Myron the podcast Myron Metcalf teaching music to the world here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio. He is not here today. I've had Aaron a gold hammer. We had a good time. We haven't had as many cultural conversations but we have had fun and now Myron joins us. Reason he's not here today is he's big time. This is one of those My Metcalf steps out and is more important than everybody else and does the sidelines for ESPN Radio's broadcast today of Ravens Vikings. Myron, you are in Minnesota. You're. This is your big moment. How are things going?

[Myron Metcalf]

Is this my big moment? I mean I've done it a few times. I mean I know like my job's on the line or something. Do you know something I don't know?

[Matt Myron]

No, it's just every time you do it it's like we get a different version of you. We don't get the version who's like, oh, let me tell you about the barbershop we get. Hello, I'm Myron Metcalf reporting from the sidelines. J.J. mcCarth. Is that a shoulder injury? Like I like that. Myron Metcalf. I don't get to hear it a lot.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't sound like Dan Rather. Like you always make a sound like that's like I sound like Ted Koppel or something like that. I don't. It's just a different responsibility, man. Come on.

[Matt Myron]

Just talk though in your normal voice. Such this do just give me the sideline updates. Like we would be talking about Vandy and Jojo. Like I feel like you could do that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Listen, this is a more professional setting than what we do on Sundays, you know, a little bit, a little bit tighter here in the NFL. So you know, I just got to make sure I'm button up and I get the information. That's all I need to do.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Matt Myron, what is a Sideline reporters worst nightmare. And what is a sideline reporters dream scenario?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, almost ran into the Houston Texans kicker last year. So a lot of it is just field awareness. But there's two things you got to watch for. You got to watch. Well, three things. You know, football's flying all over the field. You don't want to get hit. Like, you don't want to be a meme. Right. You don't want to go viral for somebody colliding into you or getting hit in the face with a football because you're not watching. Number two, players are always running all over the place. And, like, these kickers will just set up a net randomly, anywhere they want. So you'll just be standing in the place you're supposed to stand in, and next thing you know, some kicker will throw out a net and they'll just start kicking into the net. So you don't want to be in the middle of them. But the biggest thing I watch out for is the TV crews have these giant cameras on cranes.

[Matt Myron]

Yeah, yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

And they will go flying down the sidelines with their whole team of people, and all of a sudden you'll just hear, clear, clear, clear. And you just got to scramble and hope you don't get tripped up by one of the cords, because that thing will take you out. So those are probably my biggest concerns.

[Matt Myron]

What about, like, I've always wondered. Okay, so, like, I'm not saying you don't, like, have sources. I mean, you're not breaking San Diego Padres manager scoop like me, but, like, you have source.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, good job on that.

[Matt Myron]

See, I can hear the disdain. Like, why can't you just give me credit for getting a big story? Why can't, like, just.

[Sports News Reporter]

I.

[Matt Myron]

You're not the only one on the show that can get a big story.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, because you were playing up a little too much. I mean, I was with you in the first couple of texts. Kudos to you. But by, like, the seventh, I was like, okay, then maybe get into your head a little bit. But that was my concern.

[Matt Myron]

I feel like, you know, you don't feel depressed. I don't think that's true now, but it's in the game. You're there to get us information about what happens after an injury or whatever. I think a lot of people wonder, how do you get that information? Like, when somebody's hurt, like, how are you finding out what's gonna. What their status is?

[Myron Metcalf]

You learn to be nosy. So you just kind of stick your head in places that you try to get as close as you can to the action without somebody pulling you aside and saying you're too close. So essential, that's what you do. You know, someone gets hurt, I'll run straight to the medical tech. You know, get a lot of. I have a field access pass, so I can go anywhere on the field I want to in the designated area. So as soon as someone gets hurt, if it's a real injury, you run to the medical tent, you kind of listen in. They get them in there pretty fast, so it's kind of hard, but, like, if I see someone getting carried off or limping, I'll report that. I try to listen in on what guys are saying on bench. I try to listen to what coaches are yelling, but for the most part, you're just sort of the eyes on the field, and you just try to stay close to the action.

[Matt Myron]

Sounds like you're trying to violate people's HIPAA rights. Am I right about that?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know nothing about hippo. You know, I just. I'm just here to, you know, I listen in. I just. No, I just, you know, you just. You're nosy. Like, you know, like, you just nosy a little bit.

[Matt Myron]

You know, you just.

[Myron Metcalf]

You're there, but you don't want them to know you're there. Like, that's.

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[Aaron Goldhammer]

Obviously, you want a good game today. I'm sure you're rooting for close overtime, but how much is the sideline reporter leaned upon if this is Ravens 48, Vikings 3 in the third quarter?

[Myron Metcalf]

A lot, I would think. More, though. More or a situation like that compared to, like, 35. 35. Which along the sidelines, if it's a tight game, you try to stay out of the mix. Unless it's big news, right? Like, nobody wants to hear from me in the fourth quarter. In a close game where every play matters unless somebody gets hurt, unless there's some big development. But if it's a blowout, I gotta. I gotta come up with stories and information and, you know, I printed out my 10 storylines, so, like, I'm. I'm ready, you know, if they. If they come to me with that stuff.

[Matt Myron]

Do you. I mean, does that. You're a guy who likes to have his opinion heard, though. Does it make you upset that you don't get. I would think you. I wanted, like, interject. Do you ever say to, like, Steve Levy, okay, I'm ready now. Go to me.

[Myron Metcalf]

The paycheck doesn't require me to interject. I'm Just fine, actually, where I'm at. So to be honest with you, I respond when called upon. The check clears the same way. So I'm actually good.

[Matt Myron]

When it's all about money, like. Like with Zach Calzada, for Myron, it's all about getting his cash, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

What was your guy doing, man? What was your guy doing, by the way? Did he watch Scarface or something? Like, what was he doing?

[Matt Myron]

I don't know. For people who don't know, Kentucky's backup quarterback sent a taunting Snapchat video to a fan with twenty thousand dollars in hundred dollar bills, saying, you ain't got your money, Garrett. You need to get your money like this. It's kind of a. You know, I just don't know if that's the best way to invest your $20,000 in cash on the floor of your apartment when people know where you live. I'm not sure that's what I would do.

[Myron Metcalf]

That boy watched one too many TI Videos, right? Like, you can't. You can't be watching Lil Wayne music videos and try to do the same thing. So that. That's what happened there.

[Matt Myron]

That's true. Tell me about what you. This game today, you got Ravens and Vikings. Lamar in person is always a great experience. JJ McCarthy back in the lineup. What are you expecting to see?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I mean, I haven't seen Lamar in person since Louisville. You know, when I saw him there, flew down there, saw him, so it'd be cool to see him in person. Brian Flores, the Vikings defensive coordinator, said they got to try to contain him best as they can. He had four touchdowns against Miami in his comeback game about 10 days ago now. So they're getting healthy at the right time. That defense is getting better with Baltimore, and they're starting to look like the Ravens were used to seeing. But the Vikings look like they played at another level with J.J. mcCarthy, and I think they have a confidence they lack before he came back healthy. So you got two teams that need to win this game for a lot of reasons, and they're both kind of turning the corner, it feels like, at the right time. So I think this could be the game of the day.

[Matt Myron]

You can tune into that game. Vikings and the Ravens followed by the Cardinals at the Seahawks. Coverage begins at noon Eastern on select ESPN radio stations. Myron, go enjoy. Try not to hurt someone and don't get run over by that. By the camera truck.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I just don't want to go viral for the wrong reasons. That's like my only thing. So wish me luck.

[Matt Myron]

All Right. I appreciate it. There you go in person. Aaron, have you ever gotten to see that?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I'm in Cleveland. So Lamar comes here and beats the Browns just about every year. You know, it's funny, the Browns actually play him because they have so much experience against him. The Browns don't do much. Right. But if you look at the numbers, the Browns play Lamar Jackson relatively well compared to the rest of the NFL. Did you see the stat this, this normally I'm not stat guy, Matt. This blew me away. Lamar Jackson against the NFC 243 in his career.

[Matt Myron]

Yeah, that's an amazing stat. I remember hearing that last year. Here's the thing about Lamar Jackson, having watched him in college. I was at the game where he played for the first time. He got brought in as a. Here's interesting. Will Stein, the offensive coordinator at. He gets taken out and replaced by, by Lamar Jackson. And I remember when he came in, never heard of the kid, he's a freshman. And I went, oh, who's this? Like you could just, you could just tell something already. There was. You could just tell and he. Louisville was losing and came back and won because you came in and like you couldn't prepare for that. Who would have ever felt that thing exists in football? Right? And so you could tell from moment one he was a special, like just a different human.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Well, normally you watch college football because you want to watch Alabama, you want to watch Notre Dame, you want to watch Ohio State, you didn't want to watch Louisville, you wanted to watch Lamar. That was a whole. And I think in hindsight one of the dumbest narratives in sports talk history.

[Matt Myron]

Was, was whether he could play quarterback.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Yeah, right. Is he going to be a wide receiver?

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[Aaron Goldhammer]

Of all the guys that are total freaks who you think should have like 10 catches for 500 yards in every single game they play. Kyle Pitts just has too many games where he catches two balls and all of a sudden they go to Germany and there's Kyle Pitts showing up making plays.

[Matt Myron]

Yeah, there's two dudes, two tight ends in my years of watching the SEC that I thought, okay, that's a freak. One is Brock Bowers who has shown that to be in the NFL. And then Kyle Pitts was the other and it just hasn't happened for Kyle Pitts.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Yeah, they just, they just targeted him and they should have been a touchdown. Michael Pennock's under threw it and it hit a Colt defender in the back. So I think Atlanta is lining up for the scariest thing the Falcons do and that is try to kick a field goal.

[Matt Myron]

That's right now. There's a lot more in the news than just the things we focus on. There's other headlines and we need to check them. It is time for headlines.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Extra, extra.

[Matt Myron]

Read all about it. The Sunday headlines. All right, this is where we get some stuff that maybe wasn't on your radar. What's up first?

[Sports News Reporter]

Yeah. First, Kentucky quarterback Zach Calzada.

[Matt Myron]

Am I saying that it's like you're going to a restaurant, you're getting a. Calzada.

[Sports News Reporter]

Calzada. All right. Zach Calzada posted an apology for a video he sent a critic in which he showed off his Nil money. In the video directed at someone named Garrett, I guess Calzada told the critic to, quote, stop hating and go get you some money.

[Matt Myron]

This is the other side of Nil. Okay? So, like, everybody believes the players deserve money, and I agree. But at Kentucky, the backup quarterback for a team that right now is four and five had twenty thousand dollars in hundred dollar bills and was taunting a fan saying, go get you some money. And counting his money. Now on my show Friday, Aaron the fan, whose name is Garrett, he called in to the show and we got to interview him. And Garrett said, look, I don't know why he was getting mad at me. I just wrote him and said he sucked a few times, which I do think, like. And I'm not saying he should have given shown the money, but like, the guy was like. All I did was tell him he sucked multiple times.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

You know, one of the first things I thought, are we sure that was real cash?

[Matt Myron]

It was, it was. Somebody inspected it. This has gone through the Zapruder film.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Hold on.

[Matt Myron]

I'm telling you.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

So, so why. Look, I understand you get a million dollars in NIL from the Kentucky collective and you. But why do you need $20,000 in cash in America in 20. I don't need, first of all, in cash.

[Matt Myron]

Aaron, you've never balled out. I think that the first thing we'd ever. We have to say with you, you've never been. You've never been out there. First of all, you don't get your money. Right? Let's start with that. If you did, you would understand that pulling out that wad of cash. I'm sure it's a feeling of, like, how I'm rich. Maybe, maybe I'm not. I don't do it. But I'm sure there are people that do. You've never wanted to just have all your. Have your hundreds and just like, I.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Don'T know them in this day and age. I don't even carry $20 on me, let alone 20,000. Like, I, I paid for $3 in. Hold on. I paid for $3 in parking at a restaurant the other night with a credit card and, you know, one 20,000 in cash.

[Matt Myron]

Well, let me tell you, I will say this one time when I was a lawyer, we represented a client and we asked for our retainer. It was me and a partner, and the retainer was going to be $10,000, all right. And they wanted to give it to us all in $20 bills. Now, Aaron, it was a criminal case. I wasn't going to ask about where that. You know, you don't. You don't always need that innocent.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Yeah.

[Matt Myron]

Okay. Let me just say you don't. In these scenarios, you don't have to like, inspect whatever, but we took the money. And this was when I was young as a lawyer and we didn't really know what we were doing, and we just took the money and we just divided it in half. Okay. And so I had in front of me $5,000 cash. And I thought, Aaron, I was Bill Gates. I thought I was the richest person on the planet. And I was like 28 at the time.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

And I was like, go to the bank, Matt.

[Matt Myron]

So much money. And I just started like rubbing it onto my face. It was so much money. Now imagine you're in college.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Those solid. That's going to.

[Matt Myron]

I know, but it felt like it would. It felt like it would cleanse my skin. So I just was like. Because it was the most money I'd ever seen in my entire life. And there it was now times that by four. And put yourself in college. You know, I can see it, Aaron. I could see how you would do it. I'm not taking up for it. I could just see it.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I'm sure already that it was a bad investment. I'm not sure a million dollars has been spent worse in Kentucky all year than Calzada.

[Matt Myron]

Probably not. And by the way, I'm sure the money I got when I was a lawyer was completely legitimate. There's no way $10,000 paid in 20s was anything but on the up and up. Who's next?

[Sports News Reporter]

Yeah. Panthers running back Rico Donnell was penalized and fined for his. Key and Peel inspired two. This is not touchdown scoring. And Carolinas went over the packers in week nine. Keegan Michael Key, who was the star in that sketch on Key and Peel, sent a video to Rico saying in part, quote, rico, man, you got robbed. You only did two pumps. I'm sorry, man. Now we have to do a new sketch.

[Matt Myron]

Not nice. Three pumps is the rule. We all saw Key and Peel. He only did two pumps. The NFL has no sense of humor. They should. If it had been three pumps. I understand the, the, the. The. Fine. It was two pumps. NFL no fun League proves itself again. You can't do that to him, Aaron. He followed the rules of the sketch.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Correct. Also, I think the NFL wanted to share this, I'm sure on all their social media platforms. What, what is. What is so harmful about. I thought we were cool with all kinds of celebrations.

[Matt Myron]

Unless they don't. Like, there's no gyrating. This is like, this is like the town in Footloose. You can celebrate, but you cannot gyrate. No pelvic thrust, no gyrating.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

This is the NFL. The only reason these guys are playing is because they gyrate.

[Matt Myron]

You know that's right.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

It's to me, the height of hypocrisy. And, and I'd be upset if I was Rico Daddle. I would do it again. I would do three pumps. If you score a touchdown today, three.

[Matt Myron]

Places, the NFL church. And first take no three pumps. Those are the rules. That's the way it goes and that's the way it happens. You cannot do it like that. What's next?

[Sports News Reporter]

Alex ovechkin scored his 900th goal last week. After the goal the guy he scored on, St. Louis Blues goalie Jordan Bennington, picked up the puck and stuffed it down his pants. A linesman retrieved it shortly after. Well, he didn't retrieve it himself. He asked Bennington to take the puck out of his pants and hand it over. But it looked like Bennington was trying to steal the puck from Ovechkin's 900th goal. He assured everyone later that he fully intended on giving the puck to Ovechkin, though. But do you buy that?

[Matt Myron]

Is Bennington on his team or not?

[Sports News Reporter]

No, no, he's.

[Matt Myron]

Well, then I certainly don't buy. No way. First of all, that's the first time I heard of this. What a move. Like putting the puck down your pants. So I have two quick things about the story. I'm still amazed Alex Ovechkin and Sydney Crosby still play hockey. Like, every time I hear a story about them, I'm like, those guys still play in the NHL. Secondly, a guy on the other team stealing the puck is brilliant. And third, of course you were trying to steal it. Don't act like you were saving it for him. You're not Santa Claus, Benning.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

You know, so was he trying to then sell it? Because I think the 900th puck may not go for as much as the record breaking Puck did. But I imagine that's a couple hundred thousand dollars in an auction, right?

[Matt Myron]

Can I ask you about the Puck thing? Why isn't the most valuable puck his last goal? Why do people like, once he says.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Record breaking goal, that's the one that's tied to Gretzky, right? So that's the one because it's tied to the great.

[Matt Myron]

I understand, but like if you were to want the home run record, wouldn't you want the ball? That is the record?

[Sports News Reporter]

I. I mean, I guess at some.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Point that that fucking record breaking goal.

[Matt Myron]

Right, I understand, but now it's a new record. And wouldn't you like to have the final point? I'm blowing your mind. We'll do more here on Matt Myron next.

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[Matt Myron]

Matt and Myron the podcast Falcons lead the Colts 1713 going into half in Berlin. It is Matt Myron on ESPN Radio counting you down to kick off. We are trying to think of all the things that happened in Berlin. So you've got. They had the Olympics in Berlin. They don't actually have a really good Premier League team in Berlin. It's odd. German, the Bundesliga, all the best teams are not in the sort of most famous city.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Byron Munich is the best one, right?

[Matt Myron]

I mean even like, even Dortmund and those. A lot of the big teams are not in Berlin. Union Berlin is probably the best team, but they're not one of the. One of the best usually.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

But the great sports moment and a greatest sports moment in Berlin is Jesse Owens, right? I mean, that's the legendary.

[Matt Myron]

It is, yeah. But you could probably those. I wonder if foreign countries say the same thing about America. So like, you could go, oh, the NFL, but the best team is not in New York. That might look weird to us, right?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Well, the most famous team is, you know, if you said the Yankees, the most famous team is in baseball.

[Matt Myron]

But I would not say like, like if you go, if you were to go overseas, I would say in the NFL, the most famous teams are not the Giants and the Jets. The most famous teams are probably the Steelers and the Cowboys, the Chiefs maybe now, right? So I think it. So we think that's weird that it would be like that in Germany, but it's kind of like that here, right?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

In some ways the American sports scene though is different. Like, I would agree that in the epl I went to my first EPL soccer game a couple of weeks ago. I saw Liverpool play Chelsea at Chelsea. And I didn't realize a lot of these best soccer teams, the. Manchester is a long way from London. I mean, that is a couple hours in a train by the time you get relative though.

[Matt Myron]

I mean, you just said a couple hours. So think about how far New York is from la. We live in a.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

We live in a much bigger country, obviously, but just. But there are.

[Matt Myron]

Like, you didn't think that Manchester was a different city than London and might not be right next to it. That never occurred to you?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

You didn't know the geography of Great Britain?

[Matt Myron]

Didn't know that Liverpool was not a. Was not a. Was. Did you think the entire country was London?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I thought, you know, 45 minutes in the car, maybe you get to Liverpool? No. You.

[Matt Myron]

You thought all of England was within 45 minutes of each other. Did you think it was West Virginia?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Yeah. I don't know. I clearly, I didn't have a great feel. Now that I've been there and I've been there a couple of times now, I can really give you a little bit more of a feel for how. How long it'll take you to get to Manchester City. I think there's seven teams that are London area.

[Matt Myron]

Yeah. Well, first of all, I appreciate you. I appreciate you educating everyone. I don't think everyone. But you thought that all the teams were within a few blocks of each other. I don't think that.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Real surprise to me.

[Matt Myron]

I don't think when people saw Coventry city that they thought, well, there's no city called Coventry. That would be ridiculous. Manchester City.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Well, I thought then Chelsea would be a different state. No, Chelsea is a neighborhood in London and that's where Chelsea's team.

[Matt Myron]

Glad you learned all this.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

That's right.

[Matt Myron]

Basic.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I'm a world traveler. Yeah.

[Matt Myron]

Basic British geography by Aaron Goldhammer here on Matt Myron on a Sunday morning. We got. Let's go through here. Ravens of Vikings. We talked about that. Myron is there early. Ravens are 3 and 5, but still the odds on favorite to win the AFC North. They started 1 in 5. Their schedule, I think, allows them victories. Are you still a. Are you a Ravens believer? That's your division that you know very well. Are they going to win it?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

So I think getting Lamar back obviously is a massive game changer for them. I think anybody who says anybody else is really the MVP of the NFL is crazy because Lamar. The difference between having Lamar and not might be the difference between them being in first place and them being in last. That being said, the Ravens have a lot more problems than just what's going on at quarterback. Namely, their defense just isn't good. So I don't think it's a smart bet to take that the Ravens are going to come all the way back to win the division. I think they'll get to nine wins. I think they'll win a lot of games. I think they'll win today. But I think that one of their big problems is the fact that they do not play defense like a stereotypical Baltimore Raider.

[Matt Myron]

They're 3 and 5. They're two games behind the Steelers. They play the Steelers twice.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Right.

[Matt Myron]

Why can't they do it?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Because I don't think their defense is good enough. So I think.

[Matt Myron]

All right, so you believe in the Steelers Though, I mean it is probably the case that what, 10 and seven is going to win that division.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Maybe even nine.

[Matt Myron]

I mean, okay, so let's say it's nine. You, you, I mean if you, if you think it's nine, then you're, you don't believe that the vi. The Ravens can go, I don't know, 6 and 6 and 4.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Oh, I think they'll lose. I think they'll lose three more games. Baltimore will. Yeah.

[Matt Myron]

Or 6 and 3.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Myron]

Okay. But if they lose three, they still get nine wins.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Well, and then, so, okay, so then maybe it comes down to a tiebreaker with them in Pittsburgh at 9 and 8 to see one of the tough things about being in Cleveland, looking at this division, it used to be this crazy gauntlet. It, the division kind of stinks this year. I mean, Cincinnati is out of it. All the quarterbacks got hurt except for the 41 year old Aaron Rodgers. And I don't take the Steelers that seriously either. Although I do think with the lead that they were spotted that they'll finish this off and get to 10 wins and win the division.

[Matt Myron]

Well, I would note about the Bengals. The Bengals stink, but you still have to be able to put up a lot of points. I mean, I think the Bengals will, they'll get teams just on sheer number of points scored. I mean they should have beaten the Jets. I don't know if they should have beaten the Bears. That would have been a fluky win if they, if they had beaten the Bears. But they should have beaten the jets and they didn't. So I don't think they're going to win. They're not going to the playoffs. But I do think the Bengals are not necessarily an easy victory. But when it comes to the Ravens and Steelers are going to play twice. I like the Ravens. Now the Steelers today are at the Chargers. That's a road game. But I would say 80% of the fans there will be Steelers fans. So it's as much of a home game.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Yeah, right.

[Matt Myron]

The Chargers don't, especially against a team like Pittsburgh. Right.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I, I think that, you know, it's not a crazy environment. I think that the Chargers are a better team though than the Steelers are. I think their quarterback is better. I think they're better coached really when push comes to shove than Pittsburgh is. But that is, you could argue that's the biggest game of the day, Matt, because I think whoever wins that game definitely has the inside track on a playoff spot. And if the Chargers lose, assuming that Kansas City continues to take Care of business. Coming off of their buy, they could fall to third place in that division really, really quickly after starting 30 and beating all three division teams.

[Matt Myron]

Yeah, that well, that's, I think the thing you have to worry about is because in the AFC if you look at it, there's going to be a team that probably finishes not only 9 and 8 but could finish 10 and 7 and not make the playoffs because the of the way there are like really eight teams for seven spots. But those seven spots you're going to have to go and, and, and play and this game is tonight. You know, I think for Justin Herbert there's no better quarterback in the league that is known less than he is even now. I mean there you live in LA and you date a pop star and you're a handsome quarterback. You would think America would be knocking down your door to get to know Justin Herbert, but I don't think they are. I don't think anyone, I can't imagine being more anonymous and having that set of circumstances than Justin Herbert is. Now you get Aaron Rodgers in prime time, it would be a chance to put up a good performance.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

And you know the funny thing about Herbert, he has every physical attribute you could possibly want in a quarterback but somehow in the biggest games he just hasn't proven it. He still has not won a playoff game, Matt, in his career. He finally got the coach with Harbaugh. This has got to be the year. You know also Kansas City's got four losses. Like I, I. There are kind of no excuses for this not to be a year for Justin Herbert to finally step into the spotlight a little bit more than he has. He makes all the money, he makes all the scouts drool. But I don't know, do you think is he a top seven?

[Matt Myron]

Well, let me read you a Scott. I'm big. He fluctuates for me between like number six and number 11 depending on what's going on. But let me read you their schedule. All right, so after tonight they play Jaguars, Raiders, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans, Broncos. Now outside of the Raiders, none of those are automatic wins. You could lose all of those games if you're the Chargers now I don't think they will, but you could. So I do think they are in kind of a dangerous zone where games like this and games like when they play the Cowboys, they gotta win those games because they actually have a set of games where they could lose any of them coming down the stretch.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

So I think they're a 10 and 7 wild card team and I don't know, you know, Kansas City now is two behind Denver. So if Denver wins this chief game next week despite Bo Nixon not being able to score, I mean the Broncos would be three up on Kansas City. If they're able to do that. I would expect the Chiefs to win. But you know, they're gonna be three teams I think from that division, Matt, that make their way off. So I think the Broncos, Chiefs and Chargers will all make it. Although I think if you looked at it today, Kansas City would be on the outside of the playoff picture looking.

[Matt Myron]

They would. But I wouldn't give you their schedule. Their schedule. Broncos, Colts, Cowboys, Texans, Chargers, Titans, Broncos, Raiders. It's a manageable schedule if you play. I mean they were front loaded on their most difficult games.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Right. They wanted a lot of those on national tv. So I would expect, Yeah, I think Kansas City's a ten win team also. I mean they have four losses already, so. And I don't think they're gonna like go on a nine game winning streak here. So I, my, my guess is that both the Chargers and Chiefs will have 10 wins. Kansas City will be like the five seed, the Chargers will be the six seed and Denver might get to 11 and win the division only to lose to one of those division opponents.

[Matt Myron]

Yeah, that is the scenario that is most likely to occur. They're going third quarter, 47 seconds left. Falcons lead the Colts 17 13. There are some Colts fans who made it all, all the way to Germany and they look sad and they look cold as well. So that's what they get for playing indoors in Indianapolis. Now you have to go to the rugged terrain of Berlin and things don't look as good. That Colts went for it on fourth down and they were stopped short of the first. Fourth down on the first down. So Falcons take over at the at their own six yard line. We will do more NFL counting down to kickoff next here with Matt Myron on ESPN Radio celebrating Veterans Day with Dabo Sweeney on ESPN Radio. Well, I just like to first of all thank all of our troops that are out there, you know, just protecting us and providing us, you know, the opportunity and the freedoms that we have to live in the greatest country in the world. ESPN Radio celebrating America's heroes on Veterans Day.

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[Matt Myron]

Matt and Myron the podcast It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. Not only you do does Progressive let you bundle your insurance, which is nice of them, but they also give you round the clock protection. Quote [e-mail] I enjoy Aaron Goldhammer. I'm Matt Jones. I enjoy stories of the little guy like that. One of the things we were talking about European soccer, one of the reasons I like it is you'll have this massive team and then they'll play in a cup competition and they'll end up playing a bunch of guys from a bakery in a small town. And like, yeah, I'm just a sucker for those things. So I do want to know what happened yesterday in college basketball. In this world of nil and conference expansion, sometimes you can forget about the little guys. As Alan Jackson once said, don't forget about the little man that built this town. The little man. Penn State did not do that. Yesterday. Penn State played a true road game, Aaron, against the University of New Haven.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Wait a second now.

[Matt Myron]

Not Yale.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

New Haven. And they played not Yale did not play net.

[Matt Myron]

Yale played the University of New Haven. New Haven has a capacity of their gym of 867 people. Only 867 people. You can look up, you can look up their gym online. It's a tiny, it's like probably smaller than your high school gym. For those of you that are listening. And the Matt Norlander of CBS did a story about it and the University of New Haven decided as a way to get attention and clearly this is working because we're talking about it for their university. They are trying to schedule a Power 5 school at their gym every year and they have a donor who is helping to pay for that. So their thought is rather than paying money just for players, let's get the publicity of if you come to the University of New Haven, we will have one Power 5 school that comes to our campus every year and plays a game in our little gym. Do you like that?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

So first of all, 800 people, my high school gym, I went to a high school basketball power that sat more than 800 people in the high school gym. Right now, I'm just telling you it was a bigger stadium. Second of all, I'm curious, did they sell it out?

[Matt Myron]

It was full.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Yes, for Penn State they did.

[Matt Myron]

And they got a lot of national media attention of people who went to the game because it was. They did it at night. So basically, you may have seen Yesterday, Alabama played St. John's in Madison Square Garden. A lot of college basketball reporters did that during the day and then made the trip up to New Haven in the night. So they had publicity that they would have never had otherwise. But they probably only did it because they were playing the Power 5 school.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I think it's an interesting use of dollars in today's day and age of college basketball. And I would ask them at New Haven, what's the end game like?

[Myron Metcalf]

What.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

What are. What are you trying to get?

[Matt Myron]

Well, you're probably. I don't know who New Haven recruits against. Maybe you folks in Bristol there would know. I don't know, do they recruit against, like, Bridgeport or. I mean, I don't know what schools they recruit against, but if I were looking at a school to go to and I'm choosing between New Haven and another school like New Haven that doesn't play Penn State on their campus, I might choose New Haven for that. Right.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

The University of New Haven Chargers are in the Northeast Conference, so they could potentially.

[Matt Myron]

So who else is in that conference.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Who'S also Fairly Dickinson?

[Matt Myron]

Oh, I don't. Fairly Dickinson. I need a full Dickinson it.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Merrimack, you know, hold on, Let me see, let me see, let me see. These teams. Hold on.

[Matt Myron]

I'm not. I'm gonna. Who wants to go to Merrimack?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Mercy Hurst, Long Island University, Sacred Heart, Central Connecticut. That's the big rivalry that New Haven, Central Connecticut, they hate each other.

[Matt Myron]

Who wants to go to Central Connecticut? First of all, no offense to people of Central Connecticut. I have to go up there to go to espn. And when I think of Central Connecticut, I think of depression. If I were them, I would consider changing that to a different name. Anything else?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Robert Morris, which is.

[Matt Myron]

Okay. We in Kentucky know Robert Morris. They beat us once, if you remember, in the NIT one year at. We played a road game at Robert Morris. That's just outside of Pittsburgh.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Chicago State, I guess, is in.

[Matt Myron]

That doesn't feel very Northeast to me.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Welcome.

[Matt Myron]

Did you say this is the Northeast Conference?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

This is the NEC there. This is the North.

[Matt Myron]

Why Chicago State in the Northeast Conference?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

The Skyhawks of Stone Hill, Sacred Heart, which I think is in New Jersey. The core teams are Fairly Dickinson, sacred heart, Wagner, St. Francis, a lot of those Jersey schools.

[Matt Myron]

And so if you're the University of New Haven, you go. Does Mercy Hurst get a game here against the power five? No. You come over here. Don't go to Central Connecticut. You'll get lost in the ream of McDonald's and subways. Come on over here to New Haven. We've got pizza and we play Penn State at home.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I, I think after looking at the full scope of this brilliant move, brilliant move to come to play in your 800 seat stadium. Is it a stadium? It's a gym for.

[Matt Myron]

It's a gym. I think that's right, yeah. Eagles at the packers today. A.J. brown, or excuse me, Monday night will play versus the Packers. Big game here on ESPN. The Eagles traded for Dolphins edge Jalen Phillips at the deadline. They also got Michael Carter the second Jair Alexander. Great moves. I thought at the deadline for the Eagles they quietly continue to fix, make their defense better and better. I think those moves might pay off as we get in the playoffs.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Until proven otherwise, I think they have to be considered as the defending super bowl champs, the favorite to go back. And I like the fact that the Eagles now, not only, you know, have bolstered their team, but I think the tush push has made them one of the most unlikable teams in all of sports because I hear now everybody complained about how much they think it stinks. So I like the fact that the Eagles are getting better for them and I like the fact for sports talk that they've become, I think even more so than the Chiefs, the enemy, the team everybody wants to go down just because they hate that tush push, because everyone hates toothpush.

[Matt Myron]

I think even Eagles fans deep down are like, this is this, this is, this is dumb. What do you think about the insertion by the packers or excuse me, by the Cowboys into the trade with the packers for Michael Parsons that he is not allowed to be traded to the Eagles, their division rival. Do you like it?

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I think the minute you have to insert a clause like that in a trade, it means you probably shouldn't be making the trade in the first place.

[Matt Myron]

I don't know. I like it. Pettiness. I'm for it. Like, I mean, you know, why not if you, if you're going to make the trade, the only team you don't want to see get him is the Eagles. So just put.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

Okay, so why you wouldn't worry about him going to the Giants or the Commanders? Those are also.

[Matt Myron]

I'm fine. They stay. I mean, I know I don't want him with the Eagles. If I'm, if I'm the Cowboys, I'm fine with it. First of all, I encourage pettiness. Secondly, I also just think it's a smart football move. Maybe you should include it to in the division in general, but maybe there was some reason that the packers didn't want to do that.

[Aaron Goldhammer]

I just think if you have enough respect for the player, okay to include that clause in the contract, you really don't want to go up against him twice a year. Maybe you should be looking yourself back in the mirror and saying, why are we letting him go somewhere else anyway?

[Matt Myron]

Yeah, I still think it was a smart decision and I like it. Adds a little drama for this game. Matt and Myron the Podcast.

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