Hour 2: What is Too Little Sleep

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Episode: Hour 2: What is Too Little Sleep
Hosts: Matt Myers (Jones), Myron Metcalf
Date: January 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively hour features Matt and Myron’s trademark blend of lighthearted banter and sharp sports analysis. The central theme is the unpredictable nature of the current NFL playoffs and legacies on the line for quarterbacks, blended with pop culture tangents, college athletics debates, and a quirky closing segment on sleep deprivation claims by public figures. The hosts keep the tone friendly, humorous, and conversational throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Most Pressure on NFL Playoff Quarterbacks

• Timestamps: [04:05] – [11:49]
• Myron and Matt debate who among the remaining quarterbacks faces the most pressure in these unpredictable playoffs.
• Myron’s Argument:
  • Matthew Stafford has the most at stake; a second Super Bowl at this late stage would elevate his legacy:

    “The guys who win big at the end are held in a different regard. … a second super bowl puts him in a different category.” – Myron [04:25]

  • Compares a potential Stafford repeat to John Elway and discusses how quarterbacks’ late-career wins redefine their whole narrative.
• Matt’s Take:
  • While a 2nd Super Bowl helps, Matt isn't sure Stafford feels much pressure, citing his resume and that most young QBs have their future ahead.

    “I'm not sure there's really pressure on any of them… This is almost all just gravy.” – Matt [05:44]

  • Matt singles out C.J. Stroud: The young Texan could reclaim elite status if he capitalizes on this opportunity with the talent pool and playoff path considerably thinned.

    “A chance for CJ Stroud to reclaim his spot as one of those elite guys. … I don't think he'll ever have a better chance than he has today.” – Matt [06:55]

Notable Moment

• Myron draws the Pistons analogy:

  “Maybe this is more like the 2004 Pistons year where they won a championship kind of out of nowhere. … Someone's going to have a chance here that I don't think you'll ever get again.” – Myron [07:43]

• The hosts riff on how unlikely NFL heroes could join sports lore the way the Pistons’ starting five are still remembered.

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2. Legacy-Making Playoff Runs & Best NFL Storylines

• Timelines: [09:52] – [11:36]
• Caleb Williams or Drake May potentially carrying teams to the Super Bowl would create an instant legacy.
• Matt’s Hypothetical:

  “If the Bears make the Super Bowl, I'm getting my fingernails painted just like Caleb... because he will be that big of a hero to me.” – Matt [10:40]

• Best-case storyline for the league?
  • Bears vs. Patriots would mark the 40th anniversary of their storied Super Bowl, featuring two new franchise QBs:

    “The NFL, if they were to get what they want, they would like Bears, Patriots. … Worst option would be Texans, Seahawks.” – Matt [11:12]

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3. Funny Tangent: “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” as a Cover Song

• Timestamps: [14:03] – [15:25]
• The hosts riff on the odd history of Cyndi Lauper’s “Girls Just Want to Have Fun,” learning it was first written/performed by Robert Hazard.

  “A man named Robert Hazard put a song called Girls Just Want to have Fun. … That's going to bother me today.” – Matt [14:31]

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4. Sunday Headlines – Coaches’ Press Conference Clichés & Accountability

• Timestamps: [15:25] – [18:53]
• The shift in Ed Cooley (Georgetown’s coach) from bold championship promises to “counting his blessings” after losses is mocked.

  “One thing black folks going to do when they mess up is tell you that they blessed.” – Myron [17:11] “That's our automatic comeback... You get caught doing something... just say, 'I'm blessed.'” – Myron [18:29]

• Both hosts agree: It’s frustrating when coaches deflect criticism by referencing broader world problems after a loss.

  “That's true about everything. Right? Like, if you take a worldwide perspective, then why are we even doing this show?” – Matt [17:59]

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5. Pop Culture Impact on Sports Fandom: “Heated Rivalry” & Hockey

• Timestamps: [18:53] – [22:17]
• Matt tells a story about attendance at a Hurricanes/Devils hockey game increasing because of the viral TV show “Heated Rivalry,” which features two top hockey players who fall in love.

  “Do you think one TV show about two hockey players falling in love can make women fall in love with hockey?” – Matt [19:37]

• Myron draws a parallel to Taylor Swift’s NFL impact and notes this could be a boon for the NHL.

  “When women decide that they like something, it changes the entire organization, the sport, everything.” – Myron [20:23]

• A lighthearted exchange about Jack Hughes, his girlfriend, and the importance of pop culture “keeping up with the kids."

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6. Should College Stars Care About Classwork?

• Timestamps: [24:31] – [29:45]
• After Miami QB Carson Beck admits to not going to classes during championship week, Matt and Myron debate if it matters.

  “I'm glad he admits it. Like, what's the point? Why act like you're going to class when you're not...?” – Matt [25:48] “Nobody cares what he's doing academically. … But he still shouldn't have said it. If you're Miami, I'm sure.” – Myron [27:13]

• Classic college athlete quotes recalled:

  “Cardell Jones…tweeted out, ‘I didn't come here to play no school.’” – Matt [26:06] “DeMarcus Cousins…‘This is basketball. This ain't no spelling bee.’” – Matt [26:19]

• Myron makes a case for retaining the requirement that players attend class until they’re outright employees. Matt is less convinced anyone (besides the player) should care.

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7. Should Dante Moore Avoid the Jets?

• Timestamps: [30:42] – [34:40]
• Debates the wisdom of Oregon QB Dante Moore staying in school and potentially dodging the Jets.
• Myron’s View: Leaving massive NFL money on the table is too risky given football’s unpredictables:

  “The Nil can't compete with a $50 million guarantee… I just think so many things can happen between now and next year's draft.” – Myron [32:11]

• Matt’s Counter: Moore might actually benefit from another developmental year and maximizing NIL, given he’s not ready to play right away:

  “He’s young and is genuinely not ready to play. …So you might as well go and play at Oregon.” – Matt [32:45]

• Both agree: Normally, declare for the draft, but this year’s situation is unusually nuanced.

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8. Short Sleepers, Politicians & Sports Coaches: Myth or Reality?

• Timestamps: [38:22] – [46:05]
• Inspired by Speaker of the House Mike Johnson’s claim of working “20 to 22 hours a day,” Matt and Myron (jokingly) investigate the phenomenon of ‘short sleepers.’

  “Apparently, yeah. He's doing two hours of sleep.” – Myron [39:04] “I think they're called short sleepers…99% of us cannot do this, but there are these people who can be okay with three hours of sleep.” – Myron [40:22]

• Matt and Myron riff on the absurdity of public figures boasting about extreme sleep deprivation and Myron’s uncanny ability to “know a guy” for every odd phenomenon.

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9. NFL Coaching Decisions: Mike McCarthy & Matt LaFleur

• Timestamps: [41:10] – [44:51]
• Rumor: Mike McCarthy interviewing in Pittsburgh; Myron is unimpressed:

  “No one has done less with more in NFL history than Mike McCarthy.” – Myron [42:23]

• Matt LaFleur’s extension in Green Bay analyzed:
  • Myron: “It's okay.” The division’s getting tougher, and he wonders if LaFleur can deliver more.
  • Matt advocates sticking with a known playoff coach over rolling dice on unknowns.

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10. Listener Callers & “Short Sleeper Syndrome”

• Timestamps: [45:19] – [46:05]
• The episode closes with an invitation for self-identified short sleepers to call in and share their “three hours a night” routines.

  “Short sleepers are uniting!” – Matt [46:05]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “A second Super Bowl puts [Stafford] in a different category... I’m giving Matthew Stafford the edge if he gets that second super bowl that Aaron Rodgers never got.”
  – Myron Metcalf [04:25]

• “You gotta go now, maybe, because a year from now, people may highlight some of the things you're not very good [at].”
  – Myron Metcalf on Dante Moore’s draft decision [34:40]

• “One thing black folks going to do when they mess up is tell you that they're blessed.”
  – Myron Metcalf [17:11]

• “Do you think one TV show about two hockey players falling in love can make women fall in love with hockey?”
  – Matt Myers [19:37]

• “I don't know a cover that's better than the original. So weird. This one is.”
  – Matt Myers, on “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” [15:01]

• “No one has done less with more in NFL history than Mike McCarthy.”
  – Myron Metcalf [42:23]

• “He can do three. He can do three.”
  – Myron, on knowing a “short sleeper” [46:03]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pressure on NFL QBs & Playoff Legacy: [04:05] – [11:49]
• “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” Cover Discussion: [14:03] – [15:25]
• Sunday Headlines, Ed Cooley & Accountability: [15:25] – [18:53]
• Pop Culture's Effect on Hockey Fandom: [18:53] – [22:17]
• College Athletes & Classwork Debate: [24:31] – [29:45]
• Dante Moore’s Draft Dilemma & Callers: [30:42] – [34:40]
• Coaching Rumors – McCarthy & LaFleur: [41:10] – [44:51]
• Short Sleepers & Call-in Tease: [45:19] – [46:05]

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Overall Tone

Playful, irreverent, informed, and welcoming of audience interaction. Both hosts mix in personal anecdotes, jokes, and sports analysis, creating an hour that is equal parts thoughtful and entertaining—even when they’re poking fun at coaches, cover songs, and the myth of surviving on almost no sleep.

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End of summary.

Transcript

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[Matt Myers]

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[Matt Myers]

See, that's what we missed. So Randy Scott, Nicole Briscoe can talk to. And I don't think that's why I declared war in hour one on Sports Center. Officially SportsCenter versus Matt Byron. No, I'm not for ESP. Well, I'm fine. I'll be on the front line. Listen, if you want to sit at home and claim bone spurs, that's fine. I'm out there. I will.

[Myron Metcalf]

I would have gladly done that in war. I would have been fine with that. I would have been fine. Be being hurt bad ankle I can't get out for.

[Matt Myers]

I'm taking up my show here. Fun first hour. Myron gave some warnings to companies out there. Yeah, we told SportsCenter to watch it. And we found out that our producer James has a heart of steel because he can't have sympathy for Josh Allen.

[Myron Metcalf]

Allen.

[Matt Myers]

A man named Allen is in Wisconsin and he has something he wants to say about Josh Allen. What is that? Allen. Hey, how's it going? Y' all good? We're good. Hey, just real quick, Werewolf in London. I didn't even know Kid Rock made a version. So I guess that goes to tell you the quality of that version. Yes, I agree. And it's multiple werewolves. It's werewolves.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Myers]

But real quick, one of you might like this and one of you might lose your hair over it, but I've always thought that Josh Allen and Dak Prescott are on the same list with the NFL.

[Myron Metcalf]

And that's a two person list of the most overrated players in the history of the league. It's the first Super Bowl. Yeah, you can't say history of the league. I mean, that's like. I mean, that's. That. That doesn't make any sense to me. The history of the entire league.

[Matt Myers]

Why is Josh Allen overrated? I mean, he's been to. He's won multiple playoff games. He's been an mvp. Like, I mean, don't you feel like that's a little harsh?

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I mean, his biggest two, like, accomplishments are things that he, like, almost did. There's nothing that he's done that's been, you know, a completed.

[Matt Myers]

But he's ahead of Dak because Dax never done anything. I mean, they're both in the same boat.

[Myron Metcalf]

Alan, you're in Wisconsin. Where are you from? Where are you at in Wisconsin?

[Matt Myers]

I'm in Milwaukee, born and raised in Milwaukee.

[Myron Metcalf]

But yeah, same bay is my thing.

[Matt Myers]

Somebody's gonna. Somebody's gonna try that same.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I'm from Milwaukee too. Yeah, I just. In Milwaukee. Sometimes we tend to exaggerate a little bit. Like we say. We say a lot of, you know, some like worst of all time, most overrated of all time. So I. Okay, I understand now where this is. I think he's got a point. I think he's got a point.

[Matt Myers]

All right, you need to stop.

[Myron Metcalf]

Of course you do, Alan.

[Matt Myers]

First of all, I'll finish with this. Your first name is Allen. Don't you feel any kinship to Josh Allen once you. You share a name with him?

[Myron Metcalf]

No, because my name is Alan.

[Matt Myers]

And every and every. For my entire life, I think I've met maybe five people that have ever spelled my name correctly.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, that's what this is about. This is about the Allen thing. Okay, now it makes more sense. It's the Allen thing for him. People are not spelling his name properly. I get it. Okay?

[Matt Myers]

I appreciate. Just. Just tell people it's like Alan Alda in mash. My Matt Myers presented by Milwaukee.

[Myron Metcalf]

No one would know.

[Matt Myers]

You don't think in his circles in Milwaukee?

[Myron Metcalf]

Maybe someone in Martin, I don't know.

[Matt Myers]

Protect your home in auto save when you bundle. Get a'@progressive.com now, you were talking during the. Our pre show conversation. You were asking a question which I'll let you pose to the audience. Who has the most pressure of anyone left in the playoffs and who do you believe that is?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, now it's fascinating, right? Like maybe Drake may starts a new legacy with the Patriots. CJ Stroud, maybe he steals one with the Texans. What if Caleb Williams does it? Right? How fascinating would that be? Sam Darnold, after what happened with the Vikings, has a chance. And to your point, Jared Stidham maybe pulls off one of those improbable runs, but I think it's Matthew Stafford in terms of what a second super bowl, especially toward the end of his career, could mean. I'm not calling him Elway, but the guys who win big at the end are held in a different regard. You kind of dismiss anything that happened previously and just remember them for that. And I think Matthew Stafford, a second super bowl puts him in a different category. And I think, Matt, there'd be a lot of people who would say, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford. You know what? I'm giving Matthew Stafford the edge if he gets that second super bowl that Aaron Rodgers never got.

[Matt Myers]

Okay? So I. I don't disagree with the point that if Matthew Stafford were to win a second super bowl, it puts him in a different tier of quarterbacks. I actually agree with that. I kind of think second Super Bowls does make a difference. I think Peyton Manning went. His second one made a difference. Aaron Rodgers winning a second one made a difference. I didn't agree. He did not get ones.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, yeah, Aaron Rodgers didn't. That's.

[Matt Myers]

I think that's why he's not on.

[Myron Metcalf]

Stafford maybe hasn't.

[Matt Myers]

My point is he. He. I do agree with you, but I actually don't think there's a lot of pressure because he has one. What's odd to me about the quarterbacks left is I'm not sure there's really pressure on any of them in the. In the context that we're normally used to. Matthew Stafford has one. Drake May, Caleb Williams. I mean, they've got a whole career ahead of them, especially Caleb Williams. This is almost all just gravy. I don't really. I mean, Jared Stidham, nobody believes he'll do anything. Sam Darnold, I don't think anybody thought was on this level. So I do think the only person with some pressure is if you are C.J. stroud, okay? You were considered just two years ago to be one of the five to six best quarterbacks. There was this notion that he was next. And then this class came, the next year. This class we're talking about Bo Nicks, Drake May, Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, that I think in people's minds collectively, all of them have passed him, right? Every single one of them. He has kind of fallen behind that whole group. And now if you're C.J. stroud, if I told you before the season started, to get to the super bowl and be seen as a different quarterback, you have to beat Drake May and Jared Stidham. What if I told him that before the season, he would have signed up for that in a heartbeat. And it is now there on the platter for him, a chance for CJ Stroud to reclaim his spot as one of those elite guys. I actually think it's there. And I don't think he'll ever have a better chance than he has today.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I think that's A good point. I mean, especially how we remember C.J. stroud in that first year and we were having top five conversations. He was doing podcasts about, yeah, it's like me and Brady and Manning. You know, he was doing a lot of weird stuff.

[Matt Myers]

He said at one point, he said, it's me and Brady. He already skipped over Mahomes. He was like, who's that? But.

[Myron Metcalf]

And that was like his last podcast, by the way. Like, I don't think he's done another podcast since then.

[Matt Myers]

But.

[Myron Metcalf]

But you're right. I mean, I was calling it Josh Allen's Akeem Olajuwon here, right? Where somebody's gonna get a championship with Michael Jordan out of the game. Mahomes is hurt. Here's a window now Josh Allen is out. And I think you said this a couple weeks ago, and I think it was a good point. This maybe is more like the 2004 Pistons year where they won a championship kind of out of nowhere. And I think someone's going to get that opportunity. And it could be C.J. stroud. It could be the young guys you just mentioned. It could be Sam Darnold. Like, what a story that would be. But someone's going to have a chance here that I don't think you'll ever get again. Maybe you want Allen Jackson era.

[Matt Myers]

I don't think you're ever going to get a more random set of six teams left than there are right now. And I'll go back to that Pistons year because I don't think anybody on that Pistons team is really considered like an all time great. But almost everyone listening could tell you their entire starting lineup, right? Like, they could tell you Richard Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, Ben Wallace, Rashid Wallace, Tayshawn Prince. Like, literally almost everyone could tell you those five, because they did. Even if they're not all time greats, they do have a legacy in the NBA of a five that everybody kind of remembers. And. And I do think for some team this year, there's a chance to inhabit that 22,004 Pistons legacy, basically.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, Ben Wallace is in the hall of Fame because of that, right? I mean, there's a bunch of guys who would not be remembered in the same light had they not grabbed that championship. But I think that's.

[Matt Myers]

I love him. But would anybody remember Tayshawn Prince's career if not for that championship? But now everyone remembers. Everybody remembers the Reggie Miller block, right? Like, I mean, he has that someone can do that over the next few weeks in the NFL.

[Myron Metcalf]

I was just at an event. And Tayshawn Prince works for some NBA team. I'm not sure, but Tayshawn Prince was walking around a random building and people are like, tayshawn print. Like they knew him just because of that run for sure. And I mean, I think there's just a great opportunity for someone to really almost create a legacy here. What if Caleb Williams does it, Matt? I mean, that's not. What if Caleb Williams.

[Matt Myers]

Well, if Caleb Williams or Drake may does it, then you're sitting there saying, is this the future of the NFL? Right, But Caleb's different. Drake.

[Myron Metcalf]

Drake can't catch Brady.

[Matt Myers]

Right?

[Myron Metcalf]

But Caleb, like they build a statue tonight, wouldn't they?

[Matt Myers]

I mean, listen, if Caleb gets them to the super bowl, they might as well call it Caleb, you know, the Caleb Bears. Because he will become a legend in that city. Listen, I'm not even kidding. Like in the city of Chicago, you. You have Michael Jordan, right? And you have maybe Walter Payton or, you know, Caleb Williams will be a hero unlike anything else I have already said. And I. James, Rachel, I want you to hold me to this. If the Bears make the Super Bowl, I'm getting my fingernails painted just like Caleb to get us ready for the game. Except I'm going to get whatever he has on his. I've already got a manicurist that will do it because he will be that big of a hero to me.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt, what do you think? I know we always say this. What do you think the NFL, what's the best for the NFL? What's the best storyline that pushes the.

[Matt Myers]

NFL as of right this moment? Bears, Patriots with two second year got quarterbacks 100%. Well, okay, just think about what Bears, Patriots would be. It's the 40th anniversary of these two teams playing in 1986.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Myers]

No, I mean, think about these two teams played in the Super Bowl 40 years ago. And you would have these two young quarterbacks who are the future of the league. And they're playing against each other. Chicago and Boston. The NFL, if they were to get what they want, they would like Bears, Patriots. I would think that would be their choice. Worst option would be Texans, Seahawks.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes. It's hard to sell.

[Matt Myers]

Sam Donald, Sam Darnold versus C.J. stroud. The NFL's crying about that being the super bowl. Right? That would be the worst one for him.

[Myron Metcalf]

So they want maybe Jared Stidham somewhere in there. But yeah, no, I. I agree.

[Matt Myers]

They don't want Texans, Seahawks. We will do some headlines. The rest of the world of sports, that's next here on Matt Myron.

[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Myers]

That's right. The ladies, they want to have fun. Here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio. What? Isn't that. Is that. That's what this is Presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, Girls Want to have fun.

[Matt Myers]

But that's right is a cover.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm looking up cover songs now.

[Matt Myers]

Oh, is that.

[Myron Metcalf]

This is a cover.

[Matt Myers]

Another song? Yeah, apparently the I had to look this up.

[Myron Metcalf]

The original was Robert Hazard and it was from a man's perspective.

[Matt Myers]

Wait a minute. A man named Robert Hazard put a song called Girls Just Want to have Fun.

[Myron Metcalf]

What?

[Matt Myers]

Robert was creepy.

[Myron Metcalf]

He did a Or did he do a boys just that one. No, it said Girls Just want to.

[Matt Myers]

Have fun is it was Robert Hazard.

[Myron Metcalf]

From 1979 oh, Robert Hazard. Yeah, Robert Hazard.

[Matt Myers]

Robert Hazard's on the list? Maybe.

[Myron Metcalf]

I know he had hr. I know there were HR complaints about Robin.

[Matt Myers]

I don't know a cover that's better than the original. So weird. This one is.

[Myron Metcalf]

I didn't know that. You taught me something, Rachel.

[Matt Myers]

Robert Hazard. So this man wrote a song called Girls Just Want to have Fun. That's so weird.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean.

[Matt Myers]

Yeah, I wish you hadn't told me that. That's going to bother me today. It is now time for Sunday headlines. Let's go. Extra, extra.

[TJ Watt]

Read all models, the Sunday headlines.

[Matt Myers]

All right, what's first? James? Please don't let it be about Robert Hazard.

[Myron Metcalf]

I promise it won't be. So Ed Cooley is the coach, the basketball coach of Georgetown. He was hired in 2023, full of optimism at his introductory press conference. Here's what that sounded like. And I need you to envision from our former players to our current players to our future players, having a net around our neck, hearing that one shining moment. Jim Nance ain't gonna be there anymore as he's retiring this year, was one of the best guys you can ever be around. But Iron Eagle is gonna be talking to me at some point really, really soon when Georgetown wins a national championship.

[Matt Myers]

Wow, that's confidence right there. That is confident. I'm ready now. If I'm a Hoya, I'm like, let's go cut some nets. So now what's happened?

[Myron Metcalf]

So, I mean, things aren't going as well now for him. And this is what he sounds like.

[Matt Myers]

They're nine and nine, I think right now. Here's what he had to say.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's a lot worse happening than Georgetown losing a basketball game around the world, around our city, around our community. I'm not trying to deflect anything, but my appreciation and gratitude to have an attempt to coach these young men to be better at what we do is an unbelievable honor. Unbelievable honor.

[Matt Myers]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

We lost, folks. Oh, wow. We're this with that. You know what? We are? We're blessed. We're blessed to be nine and nine. We're blessed to be one in six.

[Matt Myers]

There you go. Myron, what do you think? Said he was going to win a natty, but now saying, you know what? Look around the world, there's war. We don't need to be. Why are you worried about a basketball game?

[Myron Metcalf]

One thing black folks going to do when they mess up is tell you that they blessed.

[Matt Myers]

Let me tell you something.

[Myron Metcalf]

That is our automatic comeback. Do anything bad that we have done, we're gonna say, you know what? We're blessed. So I'm not surprised by that. It always bothers me, man, when guys making seven figures in general, I like, there's a lot happening in the world. It's not affecting you in that gated community. It just. It feels disingenuous for Ed Cooley and the teams. I think it's 1 and 6 overall in the Big east and the biggest season, even that good this year, to all of a sudden go, hey, no big deal. I know I said I wanted to win big, but there are other things to care about. It just comes off as fake now.

[Matt Myers]

Mind you do this. I hate when coaches do this. Because that's true. It's true. That's true about everything. Right? Like, if you. If you take a worldwide perspective, then why are we even doing this show? That would be like me coming on here at the beginning and going, yeah, the Bears do play the Rams today, but you know there's civil war in Iran.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, that.

[Matt Myers]

Yes, there is, but that has nothing to do with this game, Ed. So I have to say that's lame by Ed, but that's what happens. But I am glad to hear he's blessed. That is something.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's all you got to say. If you get into a jam, you get caught doing something you're not supposed to be doing, just walk in the room and say, you know what, y'? All, I'm blessed. That's. That's all you gotta say. And people don't really know how to respond to that. He knew that, too.

[Matt Myers]

He knew that. The only person I've heard say that more than Ed Cooley is Eric Adams. He loved to say he was blessed.

[Myron Metcalf]

Exactly. Eric Adams has it more than anybody.

[Matt Myers]

That just goes to show I'm blessed.

[Myron Metcalf]

He's blessed. So yesterday, I guess you were at the Devil's Hurricanes game, and I was brought up. You brought up in our text thread something about heated rivalry. I didn't know what it was. You experienced rivalry. I had no idea until you expanded on this morning. It's a Myers.

[Matt Myers]

Do you know what heated rivalry is?

[Myron Metcalf]

I haven't seen it, but I know it's. It's the hockey drama with the.

[Matt Myers]

Yeah, it's like an HBO show. And the premise is the top two players in the world. It's kind of loosely premised on, like, Crosby Ovechkin, when they came in, right. How they were 12 in the world from two different countries, played against each other as youth, and then they get picked in the draft. But the difference in heated rivalry is they fall in love, right? So they're like. They're kissing and they're. They're. They're falling in love now.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's.

[Matt Myers]

Women are loving this show. Like, every woman I know is like, heated rivalry makes my blood boil, makes me feel blessed. Like, that's what they all. They. They love. They love the scenes and heated rivalry between these hockey players. So last night I met this game, Hurricanes and Devils, and there's a group of four, like, young women there. And as we're waiting for the Uber, I'm like, what made you come here? And they said, he did. Rivalry. They're like, we're into hockey now because of heated rivalry. So, Myron, it made me think. Do you think one TV show about two hockey players falling in love can make women fall in love with hockey? Like, because there are. There's already stats that say there are many more women going to hockey games since this show came out.

[Myron Metcalf]

We saw what happened with Taylor Swift in the NFL. I think certainly the show could go viral enough to change the demographic of hockey fans. And let me tell you something, the people in charge of the NHL's bottom line are loving it. Because when women decide that they like something, it changes the entire organization, the sport, everything. I know, like, half the population. You know, these Taylor Swift dudes who are like, well, I don't want women coming into football. What are you talking about? Like, the NFL didn't say any of that stuff. So I guarantee this could be a big thing for the NHL.

[Matt Myers]

Now, that group of women did at one point look over and go, when do they kiss? And I was like, it's not an official part of the game.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I don't know if that's. I don't know if that's going to happen, but the show is going to make people buy more tickets. That's a big deal, you know?

[Matt Myers]

And Jack Hughes plays for the Devils. You know, you may. He's like, apparently a big star. Did you know he dates singer Tate McCray? Myron, did you know that?

[Myron Metcalf]

I didn't know that. Why is that a big deal?

[Matt Myers]

Well, do you know who Tate McCray is?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know Tate McCraz.

[Matt Myers]

Tate McCray is like the new Sabrina Carpenter or the new Taylor. Like.

[Myron Metcalf]

Like, it's a Carpenter is still Sabrina Carpenter, though.

[Matt Myers]

I mean, well, but now Tate McCray is Tate McCray.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Okay. She's in no.

[Matt Myers]

1 on the show, by the way. Let me be clear. I don't know who that is either.

[Myron Metcalf]

I just okay.

[Matt Myers]

But apparently she's like a big singer. Nobody knows who she is.

[Myron Metcalf]

I've heard the name before, but I have no idea. I would never know any of them.

[Matt Myers]

Well, she dates. She dates someone named Jack Hughes. And this is the kind of news we need. Probably on the TikTok, Byron, so that you can. So that you can keep up with what the kids are doing out there.

[Myron Metcalf]

Is she on TikTok? Is that probably where people.

[Matt Myers]

I mean, I think she sings songs. I think there's a song. I mean, I'm sure she may be on TikTok, but she has a song. It's like girls just Want to have Fun or something. You can. You can look it up. It's Tate McCray.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm not a cover. Tick Tock.

[Matt Myers]

So maybe it's a cover of Robert Hazard, who. Who I think needs to be investigated. The Jets. Is it the jets fault that Dante Moore is staying at Oregon? And would you stay away from a team you didn't want to play for? That's next.

[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Myers]

It is Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. We are getting ready. You know, the national championship game is just a day away on espn. It will be an exciting battle. Oregon or not Oregon, excuse me, Miami and Indiana. But Miami quarterback Carson Beck, I thought it was interesting. Was asked, you know, I mean, when you play these games, sometimes you got to consider other things. Like, you know, these guys are in college. College has started back. So they asked Carson Beck about going to class. Like, what do you do? How do you play in the national championship game? And you go to class. Here's what Carson said. Carson, I'm curious. Did you have class yesterday? If so, what class? And I know there was a pep rally on campus. Just what has it been like being you as a student this week? Particularly yesterday, no class. I graduated two years ago. So obviously I've been working towards other degrees now that I've gone to Miami. But these programs take a little longer than just a year to finish. So obviously I'm not enrolling again next semester. What? He basically is like, I don't go to class. Which is. I'm glad he admits it. Like, what's the point? Why act like you're going to class when you're not going to class, Mom?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, then he's like, well, I'm working towards other degrees. No, he's not like it. Just for anyone who heard that, I just imagine the PR people in these moments who are sitting next to Carson Beck and they are just looking like, please. That's the worst thing you could have said. But I believe it's, in my opinion.

[Matt Myers]

It'S the third worst thing I've heard of college kids. But by that I also mean best thing. The second one was Cardell Jones, who tweeted out, I didn't come here to play no school.

[Myron Metcalf]

Come in and play no school.

[Matt Myers]

I didn't come here to play no school in Ohio State was great. But the best of all time is DeMarcus Cousins at Kentucky, who, when he was asked about playing Cornell in the Sweet sixteen, was asked, what do you think about the fact that it's such a great academic institution and they make the sweet 16? And DeMarcus Cousins said, this is basketball. This ain't no spelling bee. Which I think is a great line, because not only does it note that academics doesn't matter. It thinks that DeMarcus Cousins thinks that Ivy League schools, they have spelling bees. Those are.

[Myron Metcalf]

Do you think that was a turn off for him? Like, bigger, different schools recruited him? He was like, nah, man. They make you do spelling bees at that school.

[Matt Myers]

That was one of the great. This ain't no spelling bee was one of the great lines in the history of reporting. But at least Carson Beck is honest. He is not going to class. Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, he's like, nah, I don't even know what class is. And I love that. All the people trying to defend what's happening in the Nil era, like, this is a part of it. Nobody cares what he's doing academically. They're not going to hold him out of that game because of something academic. But he still shouldn't have said it. If you're Miami, I'm sure.

[Matt Myers]

Can I say something? I've never understood why anyone cares if any of these dudes go to class ever. What do you care? Like, seriously, what do you care if any of these guys go to class? How does it affect you?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I mean, if it's. If that's a requirement, I want everyone to have to.

[Matt Myers]

Why?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, that's nothing.

[Matt Myers]

What difference does it make?

[Myron Metcalf]

Because that's what it is.

[Matt Myers]

More enjoyment out of the game. If you know that the Indiana players went to sociology.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes, because. Because here's why I say that you and I are old enough to watch guys who are heroes 20 years ago who have nothing today. So I do want to know the guys are progressing toward a degree because most of these guys aren't ever going to make any money.

[Matt Myers]

But I also know people in my general life who don't do anything. Like, I mean, that's just part.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, that's fine. But I mean, I do think everyone should be following the same rules, you know, at the end of the day.

[Matt Myers]

So you're saying, like, when. When, When Duke plays North Carolina in February and they are in Cameron Indoor and the Cameron crazies are going crazy, you're going to sit there and go, what really is making this game enjoyable to me is that Cameron Boozer today was in his humanities class.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, that's not what I'm saying. But I do think it has to until we get to the place where they're employees, if we ever get to that place. Until we get to a place where this thing is sectioned off completely. Yeah, they have to go to class. And to me, I'm telling you, man.

[Matt Myers]

I genuinely think no one has ever cared about that. I think it's one of those things that people think they should care about, so they say it. But like, John Wall, I don't care if he ever went to class. I remember the things he did on the court. What do I care what he went to school for?

[Myron Metcalf]

But for every John Wall, there are 20 guys who were not that good, who didn't make $100 million in the NBA, who probably need to get a degree. Like, my thing is, you and I walk into gyms and we see dudes who are great in a past generation and are trying to get back on their feet at 35, 40 years old. So I don't know. I think that has to be a part of the conversation. Unless we just completely section this whole thing off and say, let's just make them basically pro athletes away from college.

[Matt Myers]

Have you followed the whole thing about how Kim Mulkey may win the national championship for Miami football? Have you followed that whole thing?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes, I followed the Mulkey. Yeah.

[Matt Myers]

Got mad at Haley Van Lith. Right. And they had a fight, which made Haley Van Lith transfer to TCU to play basketball, which made one of the Cavender sisters leave TCU and go to Miami. And she was dating Carson Beck, who then went to Miami to be with the Cavender sister. So do you think Kim Mulkey should get credit if Miami wins the national championship?

[Myron Metcalf]

It's a fun storyline. I'm for it. I'm for it. Yeah, the Haley Van List storyline. Now Carson Beck and that Cabinet twin aren't together anymore.

[Matt Myers]

Right?

[Myron Metcalf]

It didn't. Something happened, right?

[Matt Myers]

Or I think they broke up. Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay. But no, I'm with that storyline. I'm with that for sure.

[Matt Myers]

Well, you can find out who will raise the trophy tomorrow night. The college football national championship is presented by AT&T. Coverage begins at 6:30 Eastern on ESPN Radio and the ESPN app. Now, one of the teams that would like to have been there was Oregon. Dante Moore, quarterback has decided to return to school for the 2026 year. He gave up a chance to be a top pick in the draft, but he will likely project as the top pick in the next draft. Now, Dante Moore would likely have been the second quarterback taken in the draft. The Raiders have the first pick. So the next team that would need a quarterback, presumably, is the Jets. So some people are saying Dante Moore is coming back to college because he doesn't want to be a Jet. Do you think that is fair or do you think it is a sound decision for Dante Moore? To go play another year at Oregon.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think it's a bad decision, um, because as the number two pick, I think you're a guaranteed 50 million, which outweighs anything he's going to get next year. I mean, I think he's going to get, you know, 5 million or something like that, whatever the valuation is. But I understand maybe not wanting to be a part of a particular organization if that's really why he's not going into the draft. But I just think so many things can happen between now and next year's draft. A, you may not be as good as. B, you could get hurt. C, this is going to be a much stronger draft than this one right now. I mean, you're number two if you're Dante Moore right now. But think about all the guys who are going to be in that draft a year from now. So I just never think, Matt, as much as people are like, oh, stay in college with the Nil. The Nil can't compete with a $50 million guarantee that he would get as the number two pick in the NFL draft.

[Matt Myers]

But you could also go to the jets and be terrible. Now, the counter to that is, if you're looking for the next year, chances are whoever it is that goes first is also going to be right. Like, I mean, that's. That's kind of how it is. I will say this decision this year, I think, actually normally I'm with you. You should always go, no matter what. If you're a top 15 pick, you go this year. I might make an exception for one reason, which is, A, he's probably going to make four and a half to $5 million at Oregon, but B, he's young and is genuinely not ready to play. Like, if he goes to the NFL, I don't think you can play him initially, so you might as well go and play at Oregon. And you're right. There's always a chance to get hurt. There's always a chance you don't get picked. But I actually think in his case, it makes some sense to me because I think if he went to the jets, he would not play. He is not ready to play in the NFL right now, whereas I think Mendoza is.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, you believe all that? You care too much about that.

[Matt Myers]

I still would tell him I was. Well, let me just say this, Mark. I still would if I was his. His agent or his friend. Yes. What would you tell. Would have told him. I still would have told him to go. But I don't think it is as ridiculous a decision as I normally would say it is for the reasons I mentioned, but still, even balancing all that, I would have told him to go.

[Myron Metcalf]

50 million is not 5 million.

[Matt Myers]

I mean, he wasn't guaranteed 50 million. He would have been like. He would have been, you know, 25 or something like that. But he could have gotten to your point.

[Myron Metcalf]

Hunter got 46. I mean, he would have been in that ballpark. It'd be a lot more than what he's going to get at Oregon. And I understand development. I understand. I even understand the Jets. I can understand all those things. I just think there are a lot of guys like Dante Moore who didn't leave and they came back and it wasn't the same or they got hurt or. Or they were exposed. In basketball, it happens all the time. You never come back.

[Matt Myers]

Eli, who came back for a second year and it worked. That does happen.

[Myron Metcalf]

But. But he's not.

[Matt Myers]

He.

[Myron Metcalf]

To me, to your point, may be a guy who has to catch them now before they see the flaws in a year like you gotta go now, maybe because a year from now, people may highlight some of the things you're not very good.

[Matt Myers]

They may. You're. You're exactly right. They. They may. Let's go to Damon in Boston really quick. Damon. Hey, guys. Great show.

[Myron Metcalf]

I want to draw an interesting parallel.

[Matt Myers]

Between Bo Nix and Tyrese Halliburton. Two guys from low market teams, in.

[Myron Metcalf]

Comparison to who they were playing against, were getting kind of the short end of the stick in terms of media coverage throughout the whole year. And when they finally started showing that they were who they are, they got hurt. It just cheats us from seeing a.

[Matt Myers]

True ending from the game. Well, it does cheat a little bit. I mean, I think no matter what, next week's game would have been a lot more exciting if Bo Nix was playing, especially if it's Drake May. You could have had these two second year quarterbacks going for the thing for the afc, but it's the way it goes. I do think Myron, he will have many more chances in the future to get this, whereas I don't know if Tyrese Halliburton ever will.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, we'll see how Halliburton comes back from the injury. But yeah, I think this is the start of Bo Nix's story. Long, long way from the end. But I think people covered him. It's just. It's hard to get coverage in the league with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes when you're playing quarterback.

[Matt Myers]

Yeah, I mean, objectively is Bo Nix is interesting as those guys. No, no, he's just not. I mean, that's. And Tyrese Halliburton, by the way, is not that interesting either. I mean, no offense to him, but yeah, whatever. Right? Like, he sees. Plus, it's Indianapolis.

[Myron Metcalf]

He goes to wrestling matches and stuff, though. He's big.

[Matt Myers]

He wants to go to Indianapolis. I mean, that's. That's in and of itself. Okay.

[Myron Metcalf]

You in Indianapolis.

[Matt Myers]

That's exactly right.

[Myron Metcalf]

They're playing in the game tomorrow.

[Matt Myers]

Man.

[Myron Metcalf]

Don't mess with Indiana today.

[Matt Myers]

That's Bloomington. Bloomington's more exciting.

[Myron Metcalf]

I know, but the state. Let the state have its.

[Matt Myers]

I mean, the state can have their day. They, you know, they can have their day, but nevertheless, it's. It is what it is. The packers are sticking with Matt LaFleur. Matter of fact, they gave him an extension. Myron has strong opinions about this. We'll tell you if it's the right decision and more here on Matt, Myron.

[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Myers]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Myers]

Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. Got a question for you, Myron. The current United States speaker of the House, Mike Johnson says He works, quote, 20 to 22 hours a day. Do you believe that a person can work 20 to 22 hours a day? No, no, just it's 20, 22 hours a day. First of all, why would you even want to do that? Like, wouldn't you, like that sounds like the most miserable thing in the world. That's what they do to like torture people 22 hours a day. What would your hours be? Do you go to bed at 3 and get up at 5?

[Myron Metcalf]

Apparently. Apparently, yeah. He's doing two hours of sleep.

[Matt Myers]

I used to, I remember.

[Myron Metcalf]

I just don't know why people say that stuff.

[Matt Myers]

Yeah, I remember when I was a kid reading that NASCAR driver Mark Martin. You remember? Do you remember the name Mark Martin?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yep.

[Matt Myers]

He would get up every morning at 3:30 and I thought to myself, why? What is happening? Well, first of all, you drive a car, Mark. What is, what could you be doing at 3:30 in the morning? I kind of have the same thought.

[Myron Metcalf]

Here, but there's that group. It's a condition, right? There's those people because I know one of them, those people who can go off of three hours of sleep. It's like an actual thing. Like there's a group of people who can, who can, like, they live off three hours of sleep. Three, four hours.

[Matt Myers]

These people. Who are these people?

[Myron Metcalf]

It's. I've met a guy who had it.

[Matt Myers]

I don't feel like you're making this up. This sounds like I'm dead. I'm dead serious. You, you met a guy that was blessed to get three hours a week.

[Myron Metcalf]

There are these people who, 99% of us cannot do this, but there are these people who can be okay with three hours of sleep. I'm telling you, there's like, it's a condition the same, the same way our body needs eight hours. They're natural short.

[Matt Myers]

What do you sleep? I sleep six.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, six is the target? Yeah. Six is always the target, depending on what's happening. That's the goal.

[Matt Myers]

Okay.

[Myron Metcalf]

This guy. I know a guy can do like three. Who does, who gets up at like 4am you notice.

[Matt Myers]

I don't know if you listeners have ever noticed this. Myron always knows a guy. Like Myron knows more guys that have weird conditions. Like whatever we talk about. Like you'd be like, there are people who can eat broccoli through their nose. And my. And be like, I know a guy. Like that's what he does. And he handles it pretty well. Broccoli directly through his nose. And you're like, how do you know that guy, Myron? So, you know, I get what you're.

[Myron Metcalf]

Saying, but there's this. I think they're called short sleepers. I get what you're saying, but I'm telling you, someone listening. There are people who, the way that our body regenerates six to eight hours, they do it in three to four. I'm just telling.

[Matt Myers]

If you sleep. If you sleep three hours a day, 888, say ESPN. I would like to hear your take on sleeping three hours a day. I kind of believe that's not true. The short sleeper, I think they're called. Adam Schefter is reporting this morning that former Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy is talking to Pittsburgh about their head coach vacancy. Of course, They've only had three coaches in, like, 60 years, but Mike McCarthy could be the fourth as he is talking with Steelers GM Omar. Omar. Omar Khan about. About whether or not they have the job and they work together in 2000. You are a big Mike McCarthy fan, really, kind of always have been. How do you feel about Mike McCarthy as the new Steelers coach?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know why you're talking to him. I'm not really sure. Like, what do they talk to him about? Not head coach. I think you sit Mike McCarthy down and you say, Mike, tell us the five qualities that would make this a terrible choice in a coach. So I think Mike can do that for you. But I don't know what else Mike McCarthy can do. I mean, no one has done.

[Matt Myers]

You always, you always are so down on Mike McCarthy. Who has a better resume besides Mike Tomlin that is on the coaching market right now than Mike McCarthy.

[Myron Metcalf]

No one has done less with more in NFL history than Mike McCarthy.

[Matt Myers]

No one.

[Myron Metcalf]

Mike McCarthy is the guy when the. When the band wins a Grammy for Best album and he was playing cowbell, you know, and he's up there trying to get part of this. That's Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy, to me, would be the worst hire you can make it right now.

[Matt Myers]

Like, you know, you're sounding like Suge Knight right now at the. At the Source Awards, so.

[Myron Metcalf]

So be it.

[Matt Myers]

Mike McCarthy's all up there dancing in the videos. That's him.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's. That's Mike McCarthy. Listen, he was handed a quarterback who at his best, Aaron Rodgers was second or third in this league, no matter wherever you want to put him, was the best. I think it stretches to. He was handed a Dallas team that had the best dad Prescott one seed all these Other opportunities. He left with one super bowl appearance and all of that and many, many misses in the postseason with the Dallas Cowboys. Mike McCarthy is exactly what you don't want if you're the Pittsburgh.

[Matt Myers]

What about Matt LaFleur? He is extending with the Packers. He will remain as the head coach. Signed a multi year extension. Do you like that for Green Bay?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, Green Bay is in, you know, a situation with Matt LaFleur where it's like, you know what, it's okay. Like if there was a relationship that you'd be like, hey, how are things going? Oh, you know, we're solid, we're good, but it's nothing exciting. Like you're not going to do anything new or fresh in the years ahead. I don't know how Matt LaFleur takes you to the next level. The NFC north just got a lot tougher. You have a Vikings team that doesn't even have a quarterback and they stumbled into eight wins. You have a Detroit Lions team that's going to be better in the years ahead. They're going to find a way under Dan Campbell. And you have a Chicago team that could suddenly be the class of the NFC. That's just the NFC North. How does Matt LaFleur make you better? Show me where you have a guy at quarterback in Jordan Love who is improved. Like, show me the improvement. I have not seen it under.

[Matt Myers]

But again, part of what I would ask you is if you were to get rid of Matt lafleur, who is out there that you know is going to be better? Like who? How do you know you're going to get an improvement? I. Part of why I think I would continue going with Matt LaFleur is I look at the coaching candidates. There were basically three I thought were slam dunks. Two are gone. And it sounds like Mike Tomlin's going to television. So if you're not going to get One of those three, why not stay with Matt LaFleur who's proven to at least get you to the playoffs?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think the challenge for me is that I think that's the wrong question right at the end of the day, like maybe he's just done all that he can do. I think that's a fair case. But I will say this. I don't care what the years are on this deal. I don't care what the clauses are. This is a does Mike Tomlin want to coach in 2027 deal. Because if Mike Tomlin goes into TV for a year at a year from now, he says, you know what? I want back in. And Matt LaFleur struggles. That to me would be the top destination for Mike Thomas.

[Matt Myers]

All right, so we have some folks who are on the phone, they're real claiming to to be short sleepers who like it's called, what is it called, Rachel? Short sleeper syndrome, Triple S. Okay. So it is short sleeper syndrome, also called short sleep syndrome. It's a condition where you need less sleep than most people, usually about four to six hours. That's not what a couple articles it said three, but most said four. Mike Johnson says two to four hours. And Meyer Metcalf says he knows a guy. Yes, famous last words. He knows a guy that does know. You said three hours a night.

[Myron Metcalf]

He can do three. He can do three.

[Matt Myers]

Three hours a night. All right. Well, we have some folks on the phone from everywhere from California to Alabama to Detroit to Texas to Oklahoma to Raleigh. Short sleepers are uniting. Plus, we will get you ready for the games today. And including Chicago Bears head coach Ben Johnson, I didn't realize was kind of a bad boy. That's right. He's a bad boy. The rest of the coaches don't like him. We'll talk about that. And will that continue next?

[Myron Metcalf]

Thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10am Eastern on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and on SiriusXM channel 80. Matt and Myron, the podcast.

[TJ Watt]

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