Hour 2: Who Gets the Puck

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

ESPN Radio | March 22, 2026 | Hour 2: Who Gets the Puck

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Episode Overview

This episode features hosts Matt Jones and Myron Medcalf exploring several hot-button topics from the past week in sports, with the hour's key theme centering on ownership and legacy—whether in monumental sports moments or institutional traditions. They discuss the World Baseball Classic and Team USA's loss, debates over player passion on the global stage, the surprising outcome of an NFL flag football event, a heated segment on "Who gets the puck" when it comes to iconic sports memorabilia, and a deep dive into college sports cultures, specifically at North Carolina. The show balances insightful sports analysis with friendly banter and plenty of humor.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

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1. World Baseball Classic – Passion vs. Expectation

[00:34 – 06:19]

• Matt opens with the US loss to Venezuela in the World Baseball Classic, noting that American players face criticism regardless of outcome: win and it's expected; lose and they're seen as not passionate.
• Key Insight: The dichotomy of playing for Team USA — "no-win" scenario for big stars.
  • Matt Jones: "These American players were in a no-win situation...like those guys didn't have to do this and they did. Isn’t it a little weak to then blast them just because they didn’t win?" [01:48]
• Myron pushes back: says passion on the world stage matters, and Americans must expect criticism if they don’t deliver.
  • Myron Medcalf: "You lose on that stage and I think people are going to criticize you because you expect to win, that's okay." [02:44]
• Debate over sportsmanship: Is it fair to critique American players for their demeanor receiving silver medals?
  • Notable moment: Matt defends the "surfer bro energy" of Bryce Harper, while Myron calls for more visible emotion.
    • Myron Medcalf: "I want to see him have emotion that the Venezuelans had. I want to see some of that." [05:51]
    • Matt Jones: "If they look happy, people would go, you shouldn’t be happy...If they look unhappy, people go, you just don’t care..." [04:51]

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2. NFL Stars Lose to Flag Football Pros

[06:19 – 10:56]

• Event Recap: Ex-NFL players (Tom Brady, Joe Burrow, etc.) play in a flag football showcase and are crushed by actual flag football pros.
  • Matt’s Mea Culpa: Admits he was wrong to mock flag football specialists.
    • Matt Jones: "I was wrong. They are a lot better at this. It’s clearly a unique skill, different from regular football." [07:59]
• Debate: Should the U.S. send NFL stars or actual flag pros to the Olympics?
  • Myron Medcalf: "It's a different sport for sure." [09:49]
  • Matt Jones: Compares it to professional tennis players being thrown into competitive pickleball—unknown skills translate poorly without training. [08:57 – 09:15]
• Memorable Moment: Tom Brady attends in designer fashion, drawing jokes about his “divorced dad energy.”
  • Matt Jones: "I have to say one more thing about the event. I love that, like, all these dudes are playing and Tom Brady comes like he's going to a Runway show...he's, like, modeling while he's playing football. I just thought that was funny." [09:49]
  • Myron Medcalf: "That's that divorced dad energy. Everything's an advertisement." [10:13]
• Conclusion: The show agrees—flag specialists are better at the sport, and giving athletes space for personality is good, but don't be quick to attack them for losses.

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3. Cam Scataboo’s CTE Comments – Podcast Responsibility

[14:29 – 17:41]

• Recap: Cam Skataboo (college football player) on a podcast calls CTE and asthma “excuses,” but later apologizes for a “tasteless joke.”
  • Cam Skataboo (clip): "CTE is an excuse. I think asthma's an excuse, too." [14:47]
• Hosts Reaction:
  • Matt Jones: "[It] wasn’t a joke. He's an idiot, and I should have known...All these dudes need to stop going on bro podcasts." [15:15]
  • Myron Medcalf: "We got to end podcasts. I mean, that's part of it." [15:56]
• Insight: The potential dangers of athletes opining on serious issues outside their expertise; need for accountability in new media.
  • Myron Medcalf: "I don't need to listen to athletes talk about real issues most of the time...but there are also guys like this." [17:30]

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4. Who Gets the Puck? – Memorabilia, Legacy, and Public Good

[17:45 – 45:05+]

Jack Hughes’ Olympic Gold Medal Puck Dispute

• Background: Jack Hughes wants the game-winning puck from his Olympic gold medal, but the Hockey Hall of Fame claims it.
  • Philip Pritchard, Hall of Fame Curator: "It was never Jack's puck to own..." (reported by Guest)
  • Jack Hughes: "I'm trying to get it, like, that's BS...why would they have the puck?" [Quote relayed by Guest, 17:53]
• Hosts' Perspectives:
  • Matt Jones: Sides with public good—Hall of Fame should have it for all to see.
    • "Jack Hughes should want the puck to be in the hall of Fame. Like, having it on his dresser...how many people are going to see it?" [18:22]
  • Myron Medcalf: Sides with individual achievement—players should decide.
    • "If I achieved it, it's mine. Like, put a replica in there." [19:12]
    • "It'll be the biggest thing that ever happens in his entire career...that's why it should at least be a conversation and a partnership between him and the Hockey hall of Fame." [43:25]
• Extended Debate:
  • Matt draws museum analogy: iconic collective artifacts belong to the public.
  • Matt Jones: "There’s a collective history to sports that we as fans should celebrate." [40:18]
  • Myron, humorously, stands on player autonomy: "Let me keep the puck. That's all I'm saying, man." [45:02]
  • Matt accuses Myron of “selfishness” for his hard stance: "I never realized you had this selfishness. I also didn’t realize you believed in family like North Carolina..." [44:44]
• Notable Quotes:
  • Sidney Crosby (quoted): Responds that he never thought about keeping his own golden goal puck: "It's in the Hall of Fame." [Guest Contributor, 37:52]
  • Matt Jones: "Sometimes it's we, we, we, we, we." [38:02]

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5. Quirks of North Carolina Basketball Culture

[25:06 – 34:44]

• Context: Following Carolina's first-round NCAA loss, speculation about Coach Hubert Davis' future; leads to broader discussion on UNC's "in the family" hiring tradition.
• Culture Detail: All staff (and their wives) are UNC alumni.
  • Myron Medcalf: "Every single staff member...went to North Carolina. Every wife of every staff member...went to North Carolina. I'm telling you 100% true." [28:13]
  • Matt Jones: "That might be the creepiest thing that I've ever heard in my entire life." [33:10]
• Debate: Is this focus on “family” good or a sign of insularity and decline?
  • Matt argues it’s time to hire outside the family; calls the tradition “weird” and likens it to a cult or mafia.
  • Myron Medcalf: "You can say keep it in the family when you’re winning...now they're at a point where it's not working..."
• Memorable Moments: Both hosts riff on “control-alt-shift-delete” vs. “control-alt-delete” as a metaphor for UNC needing a program reboot.

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6. Other Headlines & Quick Hits

[21:27 – 22:44]

• Dennis Rodman inducted into WWE Hall of Fame: Matt laments the expansive nature of modern pro wrestling halls.
  • Matt Jones: "When you let in five guys a year, you’re just going to have too many people." [22:13]

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Notable Quotes

• Matt Jones [04:51]: “You have me in a situation where I'm taking up...But what did Bryce Harper do to you?”
• Myron Medcalf [05:51]: “I want to see him have emotion that the Venezuelans had. I want to see some of that.”
• Matt Jones [15:15]: “He’s an idiot, and I should have known...All these dudes need to stop going on bro podcasts.”
• Myron Medcalf [17:30]: “I don’t need to listen to athletes talk about real issues most of the time. And that’s not—there are a bunch of smart athletes out there, but there are also guys like this.”
• Matt Jones [18:22]: “Having it on his dresser...how many people are going to see it?...That’s what halls of fame are for.”
• Myron Medcalf [19:12]: “No way. Why does the Hockey Hall of Fame get to have it? If I achieved it, it’s mine.”
• Matt Jones [40:18]: “There’s a collective history to sports that, that we as fans should celebrate.”
• Myron Medcalf [45:02]: “Let me keep the puck. That's all I'm saying, man.”

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Memorable Moments & Humor

• Tom Brady’s Runway Appearance at Flag Football [09:49]: Set off several “divorced dad” fashion jokes.
• North Carolina Staff/Wife Connection [28:13 – 33:10]: Matt is floored by the revelation about all staff spouses being alumni, calling it “the creepiest thing."
• Historical Artifacts vs. Sports Memorabilia [around 36:43 on]: Listeners and the hosts compare the puck issue to the Declaration of Independence (“should it be in Jefferson’s great-grandson’s basement?”).

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Key Timestamps

• 00:34 – World Baseball Classic recap and player criticism
• 06:19 – Flag football: NFL stars vs. flag football pros; Tom Brady’s “divorced dad” look
• 14:29 – Scataboo’s CTE/asthma comments and media responsibility
• 17:45 – The "Who Gets the Puck" debate (Jack Hughes, sports memorabilia, the public good)
• 25:06 – UNC basketball, insular family culture, and coaching rumors
• 33:10 – Matt’s reaction to the “all staff wives are alums” revelation
• 37:52 – Sidney Crosby’s perspective on Olympic pucks
• 43:25 – Myron’s final position: “it should be a conversation and partnership...” on memorabilia
• 45:02 – "Let me keep the puck. That’s all I’m saying, man." (Myron)

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Tone & Style

• Playful banter with sharp, occasionally sarcastic critiques.
• Honest disagreements with mutual respect and lively humor.
• Accessible language—ideal for casual sports fans and insiders alike.

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Summary

This episode offers a robust, witty exploration of passion, legacy, and ownership in sports, wrestling with what athletes “owe” their country, their sport, and their fans—whether it’s their effort on the field, or a priceless memento for history. Matt and Myron’s chemistry and friendly disagreements make for a rich listen, as they interrogate nostalgia, tradition, and the very meaning of sports culture in America.

Transcript

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[Myron Medcalf]

This is Matt and Myron the podcast.

[Matt Jones]

It was a spotted tee. They were not able to beat Italy, but nevertheless I think they were inspired by Myron's pump up speech there. And we're presented by Progressive Insurance. Matt Myron Save when you bundle motorcycle, RV and boat insurance, visit progressive.com what's interesting about both the World Baseball Classic, which occurred at the beginning of this week, and something that happened yesterday is it's professional athletes sort of getting out of the comfort zone of what they have and doing something else and then facing criticism. So start with the World Baseball Classic. A lot of guys decided to upset the routine to play. The US Team specifically had some guys opt out, had some guys decide to play. They end up losing to Venezuela. And what was an amazing spectacle, I mean, the Venezuela team winning and then singing and, you know, doing the national anthem and just crying like it was. It was beautiful. It's what sports are about. My guy, the Cincinnati Reds, EHU Hanio Suarez got the winning hit. But then after the game, a lot of American players got criticized for people saying, well, they didn't seem like they was into it or whatever. When I heard that, I kind of felt bad because I was like, these American players were in a no win situation. If they play and win, everybody goes, well, you should. You're the American team. If they play and lose well, you all don't take it seriously. Like I kind of felt like, I mean, who am I to take up for Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper and Paul Schemes? But like those guys didn't have to do this and they did. Isn't it a little weak to then blast them just because they didn't win?

[Myron Medcalf]

No, it's what we should be doing if you're going to play on the global stage. And remember, all these guys talked about how committed they were going into it and how important.

[Matt Jones]

I mean they all played and they seemed like they wanted to win, but

[Myron Medcalf]

it was, it was clearly important. And again, they're facing a bunch of guys that they play in the regular season. So I mean, I mean there was

[Matt Jones]

a cross ranging, like baseball, random dudes, they're facing guys who play in the majors.

[Myron Medcalf]

No, but they, I felt like they made. Beginning with Aaron Judge, it was clear that this was going to be an important event for the American players. That that was the whole thing. They were taking this seriously. And, and fine, they played great teams, but you lose on that stage and I think people are going to criticize you because you expect to win, that's okay.

[Matt Jones]

But you can criticize their performance. I'm fine with going, you know, is Aaron Judge clutch? I hate conversations like that, but I'm fine if people want to have that conversation. Yeah, but to act like somehow they were disgraceful and didn't care about it as much as Venezuela or the Dominican or whatever. Like, I don't, I just don't think that's fair. How do we know they didn't care? I mean, you think when he got up there to bat in the ninth, he was like, man, I hope I strike out. No, I mean, he wanted to get a hit. It just didn't happen.

[Myron Medcalf]

But, but I, I do think in general, maybe across sports, we don't seem to have the same passionate emotion on those global stages as other teams.

[Matt Jones]

We, we win at the, we won basketball at the Olympics. We just won hockey at the Olympics. Like, what do you want? I mean, when we win we're passionate, but when we lose, we must not be passionate. Maybe we are passionate and we just lose.

[Myron Medcalf]

Well, that's how I see it. I think in general, in the World Baseball Classic, we've seen so many outwardly passionate teams. Like, we know what this meant to Japan and we know what it meant to Venezuela and we know what it meant to Italy and all these other teams and again, the total America do though.

[Matt Jones]

Do you want them to come out to a kid rock song and go, we put a boot in their ass. Like, I mean, what do you want them to do?

[Myron Medcalf]

I want them first off win. That's the starting point.

[Matt Jones]

When.

[Myron Medcalf]

And we're not having this conversation, but I saw when they're getting the silver medals, right? And you just see. And I get being.

[Matt Jones]

But no one wants a silver medal. Like, like who wants a silver medal?

[Myron Medcalf]

But don't act like you're too good for it is what happened.

[Matt Jones]

So too good for it. I mean, I didn't win.

[Myron Medcalf]

They're not Too good for a silver medal. That's what it's for. Because they lost.

[Matt Jones]

But doesn't the fact that they don't want a silver medal show you how much they wanted to win?

[Myron Medcalf]

Yes, but act like a good sport in all of it. Bryce Harper walks up with his surfer bro energy. Like, people can't stand that. Like, that's. That's half the problem. That's.

[Matt Jones]

That's half the problem with you understand You're. I hope you realize you're making it where they're damned if they do or damned if they don't. If they come up for a silver medal and they look like they're happy, everybody would go, you shouldn't be happy coming in second place. If they come up for a certain. For a silver medal and they look like they're not happy, they. People go, you just don't care much. Like, I, I don't think there's any way they can win if, if this, if these are your standards.

[Myron Medcalf]

Well, well, if, if you win the game. We're not having a conversation. I, I do think. I do think demeanor matters. And again, you saw the passion from the other country.

[Matt Jones]

What is the demeanor that you should get a silver medal in?

[Myron Medcalf]

First off, I wish someone would tell Aaron Judge it's okay to smile. Like he smiled three times in his entire life. Like. Like that would help. Bryce Harper's weird energy and how he always looks like.

[Matt Jones]

I can't believe you have me in a situation where I'm taking up. But what did Bryce Harper do to you?

[Myron Medcalf]

Guess he's got the whole, like, Patrick Sway point break.

[Matt Jones]

He's the one that hit the home run to tie the game.

[Myron Medcalf]

Fine. I want to see him have emotion that the Venezuelans had. I want to see some of that. And it wasn't consistent. Again, if you win, we're not having a conversation. If they hadn't told us how important it was, we wouldn't be having the conversation. They told us this. This matter. They told us they wanted to win and they didn't do it. All the criticism was valid from there.

[Matt Jones]

Myron is very harsh on. On the. I can't.

[Myron Medcalf]

He has that energy, though, man.

[Matt Jones]

A bunch of baseball players, but he has that weird.

[Myron Medcalf]

He does have that energy.

[Matt Jones]

Now I am going to say, let's go to yesterday. They played. I didn't. I watched about three seconds of this game, but they played the flag football. What. What was the game like?

[Myron Medcalf]

What.

[Matt Jones]

It was the flag football showcase classes. Classic.

[Myron Medcalf]

Is that what it was with like some real flag football? Guys, you know, they've been trash talking a lot for a while. And then some ex NFL guys and some current NFL guys who got involved too.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you had. I mean, you had Joe Burrow, right? You had Tom Brady. You had. Which house?

[Myron Medcalf]

Hold on, Matt. Who cleared Joe Burrow?

[Matt Jones]

Joe Burrow.

[Myron Medcalf]

Like, who? Who said we're gonna let Joe Burrow run around in March? Well,

[Matt Jones]

I've seen Joe Burrow in the off season twice. I saw him getting into a car at 1:30am with Tate McCray and Alex Earl, and I saw him playing flag football. If you're the Bengals, which one of those is more troublesome to you?

[Myron Medcalf]

Definitely. Definitely yesterday. I mean, literally, if you told me a list of the people who should not have been cleared to play, number one and two would be Joe Burrow and Jaden Daniels. And they both played like, I just don't understand how they got.

[Matt Jones]

But they got crushed, and they got crushed by these random dudes who play flag football. Now, I need to do a mea culpa because I remember a couple years ago when they announced flag football to the Olympics, I heard the dude who was the quarterback for Team USA and his name was like, Frankie Quarterback.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And I. And I heard him say, I'm better than Patrick Mahomes at this. I should be representing Team USA in the flag football tournament. And I was like, you're a goober. What are you talking about? There's no way you're better than Patrick Mahomes at this. And I mocked him, I think, on these very airwaves. Well, I was wrong. They are a lot better at this. It's clearly a unique skill, different from regular football. And they just rolled over these NFL guys. So I was raw, Myron, when we go to the flag football championships, we should send these guys. Now, we probably won't for marketing purposes, but shouldn't we? These dudes were better.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah, I'm not there yet. What? Like, to me, they're better now. Like, I think flag football is a different sport than the game that Patrick Mahomes is playing. Like, it almost looked like a high level tag or something like that.

[Matt Jones]

Well, of course it's a different sport, but that's the sport you're playing.

[Myron Medcalf]

But if you tell me if I can get NFL guys in a real training camp, and this is the problem, are the NFL guys gonna have to have enough time to really train and get ready to play? So that's the only issue. But if you tell me NFL guys are prepared.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it might be the difference between like, if you were to get Federer, Nadal, Alcatraz, whatever, to play pickleball,

[Myron Medcalf]

tras.

[Matt Jones]

You know what?

[Myron Medcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Put Federer and Nadal in the.

[Myron Medcalf]

In Alcatraz in a game, I'd watch

[Matt Jones]

it and then see what happens. But if you were to train them to play pickleball, I'm sure they could get really good at it. But, like, in an. In a. In a short situation, you probably just would pick the pickleball guys, right? Like, isn't that what you would do?

[Myron Medcalf]

Well, I would. If you can give me a training camp full of NFL guys to prepare to play flag football, I still want to see that. Well, I want to see how they perform, but I don't think you're right. I don't think they're going to get that opportunity. So we will send these flag football guys. I mean, the shape you have to be in. Yeah, the shape you have to be in. They're all fast. It's a different sport for sure.

[Matt Jones]

I also, I have to say one more thing about the event. I love that, like, all these dudes are playing and Tom Brady comes like he's going to a Runway show. He walks out there in, like, sunglasses, a backwards hat, like a designer T shirt. Yeah, I just thought that was hilarious. The rest of these guys are playing football, and he's, like, modeling while he's playing football. I just thought that was funny.

[Myron Medcalf]

I mean, but, you know, that's that divorced dad energy. Everything's an advertisement. You know, he does.

[Matt Jones]

He does have divorced that energy.

[Myron Medcalf]

You know, everything's an advertisement.

[Matt Jones]

He does. He annoys me because we're like the same age, and I'm like, stop being so handsome. Like, just show to show a little bit of age. Just a little. Make it to where those of us in your range. Yeah, just bring it down one notch, Tom. That's all. I think. But let me just say, I do think the players. I'm surprised they did it, but this is what we asked them to do, which is show personality, play for their country. And we can't get them mad at them when they do it and lose, can we?

[Myron Medcalf]

I don't think mad is the right word, but it's okay to be critical. And again, like, you earned a silver medal. Accept it. Don't mope around about it.

[Matt Jones]

We will do some headlines. We're continuing to get you ready for the NCAA big games today, this Sunday. This is Matt and Myron.

[Myron Medcalf]

Matt and myron. The podcast.

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[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah, Old Dominion.

[Matt Jones]

I want. Unless getting prior permission, no country music. I'm honestly just going that country. The letters. Like I'm trying to go letter by letter. So we're just. We're O's today.

[Myron Medcalf]

Is that country.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you're telling me you're on the O's and you went with Old Dominion. How about Oasis? It's in order. Okay, so I was going back the OJ L is before A when you're going backwards through what other there's got to be better O's.

[Myron Medcalf]

Oasis, ojs oj OJ is a good. Those are probably the biggest.

[Matt Jones]

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[Myron Medcalf]

The Sunday headlines.

[Matt Jones]

All right, what's up first?

[Guest Contributor]

All right, up first, Cam Scatter Boo was on the Bring the Juice podcast. Oh, my goodness, what an idiot this week. And he had some thoughts about cte. Here he is. You think CTE is a real thing?

[Myron Medcalf]

No, it's an excuse. I think asthma's an excuse, too.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Myron Medcalf]

Is that a hot take? No, that's a good thing.

[Guest Contributor]

That's valid.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Asthma's face.

[Guest Contributor]

Is there anything worse than when you're in fourth grade? Someone's huffing and puffing.

[Matt Jones]

You're just soft. Yeah. Just literally be better there.

[Guest Contributor]

So it doesn't believe in ct, doesn't believe in asthma. I don't know if he was joking there. He issued an apology, said it was a tasteless joke. What do you guys think of this?

[Matt Jones]

Wasn't a joke. He's got these guys. It wasn't a joke. Like, you should apologize, but. What? No one laughs like it's not a joke. And you're not going to convince me. He's like, a master comedian that has the ability. You could turn that music down a little bit. That has the ability to, you know, create amazing joking content. He's an idiot, and I should have known. I could. He. I could tell he was an idiot before he even started. And then he decides to go on some bro podcast. All these dudes need to stop going on bro podcast. They all get you in trouble because none of y' all have a filter to know what you can and can't say.

[Myron Medcalf]

You.

[Matt Jones]

He's a goober. And so I'm not surprised that he ended up doing this.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah, he's about 30 seconds away from telling us about what he thinks of the vaccine. I think dudes like that, you go, okay, you're going to talk about cte, which has been a real thing for so many players in the sport. You love players, I'm sure, who played on that team. It just. We got to end podcasts. I mean, that's part of it is. Part of it is that. Part of it is we got to take these mics away.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I mean, I, I. My whole career, though, came from podcast.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah, but, I mean, smart people stay on the podcast. We got to remove the mics from the people who aren't when they try to talk about things like this.

[Matt Jones]

You did.

[Myron Medcalf]

I.

[Matt Jones]

It was not a joke. It really annoys me that he says it was a joke. As someone who likes jokes, I know a crafted joke. That's not a joke. Why don't you just breathe that like that's not a joke. Secondly, even if it is a joke, it's a horrible joke. And it's. It is like you, you don't get to just say, in life, I can say anything.

[Myron Medcalf]

Ha, ha ha.

[Matt Jones]

It's a joke. That's not how the world works. It's fine, he apologized. That's good. But he is an idiot. And I want to reiterate, we, like I you, we could have seen it coming. And I, for me personally, just for me personally, I'm not going to despise the guy, but I'll always think of him saying that because that's like, now I know how you really feel. Don't sit there and tell me it's a joke. You said that you thought that was a good thing to say. I now know something about you.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah. I don't need to listen to athletes talk about real issues most of the time. And that's not. There are a bunch of smart athletes out there, but there are also guys like this. He's not one of them who think they're smart.

[Matt Jones]

He's not one of them.

[Myron Medcalf]

Take the mic.

[Matt Jones]

We know that now. We know who's next.

[Guest Contributor]

The Hockey hall of Fame said it will not give Jack Hughes the puck from his gold medal winning goal for Team USA in the Milan Olympics. Quote, unfortunately, in the easiest words, it was never Jack's puck to own. Philip Pritchard, the vice president of the resource center and curator for the Hockey hall of Fame, told ESPN on Wednesday, Jack Hughes obviously doesn't agree. He thinks it should be with the players. Quote, I'm trying to get it like, that's bs. He didn't say BS that the Hockey hall of Fame has it, in my opinion, why would they have the puck? He said, I don't see why Megan Keller or I shouldn't have those pucks. Nice for him to add in the women's gold medal scoring player. What do you guys think about this?

[Matt Jones]

I'm oddly kind of on the hall of Fame side. Not because, like, they deserve it, but because when you do something historic like it should be out there for people to see, right? Like, I think, like, you know, you want. Jack Hughes should want the puck to be in the hall of Fame. Like what? Like having it on his dresser. How many people are going to see it? But if you put it in the hall of Fame. Like, that's what hall of Fames are for. So while I think both these parties are being a little, I don't know, snotty about it, I still think what's better for society is if it's in the hall of Fame.

[Myron Medcalf]

Well, first, kudos to hockey pr. He mentioned Megyn Kelly. I mean, clearly they've been going to some classes. The men's hockey team, that's the first thing. Number two. No way. Why does the Hockey hall of Fame get to have it? If I achieved it, it's mine. Like, put a replica in there.

[Matt Jones]

Don't you want to share. Don't you want to share things with humanity?

[Myron Medcalf]

No, I'm too selfish for that. I want my stuff that I've achieved. If that's my point.

[Matt Jones]

It's going to end up in 80 years. Jack Hughes hall of Fame win his end up in his grandson's house and no one will see it. And he'll probably sell it on eBay for $60. Right?

[Myron Medcalf]

I don't care if the 5th grade class at Johnson Middle School sees a replica at the Hockey hall of Fame. They're not gonna know the difference. Right? I think if you've achieved it, you get to choose whether or not you keep it, but you get it.

[Matt Jones]

You're saying that like, you don't think there's any value in displaying like the home run, Hank Aaron's home run ball, or you don't think there's any value. You'd rather that just be out on the capitalist market.

[Myron Medcalf]

There's value, but I'm not talking about selling it. I'm talking about. If you're telling me Jack Hughes, if

[Matt Jones]

you give it to him, he can do with it whatever he wants, including.

[Myron Medcalf]

But it doesn't sound like he wants to sell it. If you're telling me for j cues, it's. It's a memento for him. He. He gets to decide is all I'm saying.

[Matt Jones]

So he chooses to sell it.

[Myron Medcalf]

Selling is a different thing. Like, if you sell it, then I have a different perspective on that. But if you're trying to preserve it as part of something that you've achieved, it's up to you. The Hockey hall of Fame shouldn't be able to just. They're stealing it from is how I see it.

[Matt Jones]

I will tell you, here in Kentucky, we had a Kentucky Basketball hall of Fame, and then all of a sudden it closed down. And so they just like sold and gave away this. A lot of the stuff to random People and they all sell it all the time. And it makes me sad to see, like this was the trophy that was on Adolph Rup's desk and now it's on eBay for $1,400. Like, I just don't think that's what you want with this stuff.

[Myron Medcalf]

That. That is unfortunate when it happens. I don't think that that's what Jack Hughes is planning at the same time. If one day he does, that's his right. I don't want to see that. But he should have the choice to give it to the Hockey hall of Fame. They should be able to just take it.

[Matt Jones]

Myron has strong beliefs in the values of Jack Hughes and his personal.

[Myron Medcalf]

You shouldn't be able to take a home run ball. That's a story. The Aaron Judge thing. You shouldn't be able to force someone to give up a home run ball. That's a story. I don't believe in any of you.

[Matt Jones]

Realize you were like so much of a libertarian. My choice and it's my society. Get away from me. He also Myron believes taxes are theft. Go ahead, James.

[Guest Contributor]

Myron taking a hard stance on hall of Fame basketball. Speaking of hall of Fame Basketball hall of Famer Dennis Rodman will be inducted into the WWE hall of Fame.

[Myron Medcalf]

Oh.

[Guest Contributor]

Rodman is a five time NBA champion with the Pistons and bulls. Had a four match pro wrestling career. Made his WCW debut in 97. Famously skipped practice during the 98 NBA Finals.

[Matt Jones]

Let me just stop you on the resume. The WWE hall of Fame now has too many people. This year they're letting in Dennis Rodman and Ax and Smash who basically just wore. Yeah, look at their outfits. I don't. They don't need to be. I mean they're. My point is they let in too many people. Soon they're going to be letting in, you know, they're going to be letting in the gobbledy gooker at some point because they just. There's too many people. When you let in five guys a year, you're just going to have too many people.

[Myron Medcalf]

Is Coco Beware in there?

[Guest Contributor]

Coco is a Hall of Famer.

[Matt Jones]

See, think about that. Coco Beware never won a match. Like every match was Coco be Junkyard Dog, the Pay per View and he lost.

[Guest Contributor]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

[Matt Jones]

Beware his career. He was. Oh, and infinity is Junkyard Dog hall of Fame?

[Guest Contributor]

I believe so.

[Matt Jones]

You're only mentioning black wrestling here on

[Myron Medcalf]

radio Matt and Myon the podcast.

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[Myron Medcalf]

That was a show, right? Yeah, that was the show.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it was a great show. Came on Sunday nights. Was that family show. Was that Corky Cork was the name of the guy? I don't know that. I don't know.

[Myron Medcalf]

The actor came to my school.

[Matt Jones]

Name of the actor. He came to your school?

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah, came to my school. Hang out.

[Matt Jones]

Just to hang out or would you speak Corky.

[Myron Medcalf]

Corky came. I hung out with Corky. Came to school. Screech came to my school.

[Matt Jones]

What kind of school did you have?

[Myron Medcalf]

Kato Kalin came to my school.

[Matt Jones]

Hang on just a second. You did you. That's. That's a bizarre thing to have at your school. Corky, Kato, Kayla.

[Myron Medcalf]

Corky came through.

[Matt Jones]

Screech.

[Myron Medcalf]

We chased Screech into a room and security had to block the door. So like we found him. He was in the hallway.

[Matt Jones]

But why were they at your school, all these people? Why was inviting Kato Kaylin?

[Myron Medcalf]

Well, Kato. Kato Kaylin went to my school. So I mean that was at Alma mater. Yeah, it was a famous alum. Screech was there and he was in the hallway and we all found him and we just chased him and he had to like go into this room.

[Matt Jones]

You went to a weird.

[Myron Medcalf]

But Corky came through too. I remember hanging with Corky from Life goes on at school.

[Matt Jones]

It's nice. It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. You learn something new about Myron every day. All hung out with Urkel. He hung out with Step, the guy from Step by Step. He hung out from all of them. All right, so Carolina lost to vcu, a first round loss that was kind of devastating. They had a big lead, but VCU came back and their reports are that North Carolina officials are in discussion with coach Hubert Davis about his future at the school with a decision to come in the next few days. Now, in my opinion, once you hear the phrase they are in discussions with the coach, he ain't coming back. Right. Like, they don't. They don't publicly say, we are in discussions with you and the discussion wants to bring you back. He's gone. Am I right about that?

[Myron Medcalf]

It feels like that's where we're headed. I do think part of it probably depends on the top three or four coaches on their list and what they might say. So I think they need to land whoever they're replacing him with, I think before they move forward with this officially.

[Matt Jones]

So. But you. But you feel like he's not.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah, it's not a good. It's not a. It's. Yeah. When you start talking about jobs, then that means it's probably over. Remember, North Carolina doesn't fire coaches outside of Matt Doherty. And I even think Matt Doherty actually resigned. So I don't know that they fired a coach.

[Matt Jones]

What does that mean? They don't fire coaches? I mean, like, that means that they just go. Because North Carolina is this weird scenario where they believe in, like, we keep it in the family, which is part of, I think, their downfall. Right. Is that some people's families, they just. Some people's families are just not that great. And you need to go to other families. I mean, they had. They were very fortunate, obviously. Dean Smith was a legend, and then they were very fortunate. Roy Williams was in their family. But now their family is starting to produce second, secondary and tertiary offspring that are kind of not as good as the originals. And maybe they need to go outside the family.

[Myron Medcalf]

I think that's probably the conversation. But, I mean, they've been in the family for 60 years. Dean Smith goes on to win opposing championships. Bill Guthridge takes over his longtime assistant from there. Matt Doherty gets a job, played with Michael Jordan. He resigned. Remember, they didn't fire him. He resigned. Then they go on to Roy.

[Matt Jones]

He resigned.

[Myron Medcalf]

But here's.

[Matt Jones]

But here's why I think he didn't want to resign.

[Myron Medcalf]

But this is why that's important. North Carolina cares a lot about its image in these conversations. They're not going to fire a former great in Hubert Davis. It's going to come off. Whatever they say it'll. They'll say it's a mutual decision no matter what happens. Now the question becomes to your point.

[Matt Jones]

But you know it's not.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yes, but that's what they'll say to your point. I don't know if people understand how in the family they are weird.

[Matt Jones]

No, they're very weird.

[Myron Medcalf]

Hear this out. Hear me out on this. Huber Davis staff. Every single staff member of his went to North Carolina. Okay. Beyond that, the every wife of every staff member with Hubert Davis, 100,000% true.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute, hang on. All the wives of the staff.

[Myron Medcalf]

Every single staff member. That's the way Hubert Davis's staff went to North Carolina. Every wife of every single staff member.

[Matt Jones]

Stop.

[Myron Medcalf]

Went to North Carolina. I'm telling you 100% true.

[Matt Jones]

And is. Are they not allowed to marry outside of North Carolina?

[Myron Medcalf]

I actually Davis directly and he said he's more comfortable when people come in and they just understand the North Carolina culture. So that's why he favors North Carolina staffers. So that's how. That's how family.

[Matt Jones]

But that's. You're making it sound like a cult.

[Myron Medcalf]

No, I'm making it sound like a school that has won by keeping it in the family for a long time. And now they've hit this point like a lot of schools in the nil era. Can you stay in the family and continue to win or do you have to rip this whole thing up and start over?

[Matt Jones]

But don't you think that phrase in the family is weird? It's weird. It is that like the only time people use that is in the mafia. Like it's a weird. It's. That's a weird phrase. Keep it in the family. What?

[Myron Medcalf]

No, that's not. Cal was talking about la familia with

[Matt Jones]

Kentucky when they said but Caliper, he didn't only hire people who went to UMass. Like. Like he went and hired people he thought were.

[Myron Medcalf]

You can say keep it in the family when you're winning. Like when you're winning, you can do what you want in North Carolina for Most of this 60 plus year stretch has won big by keeping it in the family. Now they're at a point where it's not working the way it once did because North Carolina doesn't have the edge in talent. You don't just go to North Carolina because they're North Carolina. The nil game has changed that. So who they hire is going to say a lot about where North Carolina stands.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they need to go out of the family. But let's say the job comes open. If it comes open, there isn't a clear family member winning. As a matter of fact, the family has a lot of businesses across the country that have gone bankrupt. All right. There's a lot of coaches with Carolina ties who have failed in recent years. So do you think that if they hire a new coach, do they say because. Did they say want to be Carolina again? Because. Because I think objectively Carolina and Kentucky are. And Duke are the best jobs in the country. So literally you have a chance to get a lot of people. Do you think they say, no, we have to go get cousin Rob because he's. He's down on his times and he's in our family?

[Myron Medcalf]

No, like, I don't think they'll say, you got to get a guy directly with Carolina ties. I think the hang up potentially could be is I think they will be encouraged to have a staff member who's attached yet university. Like, it's going to be hard for me to imagine someone coming in like, let's say they go and hire Ty Gold. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but let's say Todd Golden's like, listen, I want a championship. Let me go get this big job. Who cares? I think the question will be, do you let a guy like that come in and hit. Is it control alt, shift? What's the thing that you delete everything? Control alt, shift, Control.

[Matt Jones]

What is it delete?

[Myron Medcalf]

Is it control alt. Does that, does that delete everything?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, I don't know what you're talking about, but I would assume the delete button is part of it. If what you're trying to say.

[Myron Medcalf]

Okay, well, when you restart the thing, I think it's control alt. Shift, Delete, whatever that is.

[Matt Jones]

Control, alt.

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[Matt Jones]

No, you're just.

[Myron Medcalf]

There's a shift in.

[Matt Jones]

There's no shift.

[Myron Medcalf]

There's a shift in there, man. The thing I'm talking about, there's a shift. Shift. I don't, I don't. We're talking about two different things. But are you going to let someone come in and completely say, I don't care about Carolina culture, we're starting fresh in the nil era and you got to give me the power to do that? That, to me, is where they're going to run into a tough situation because Todd golden can do whatever he wanted. Florida, Nate Oates could do whatever he wanted. Alabama. Who do you bring in that you're going to allow to kind of be themselves? I think that's where North Carolina may run into a challenge.

[Matt Jones]

Just for the record, Control alt delete resets the computer.

[Myron Medcalf]

I'm talking about something else. Does the thing.

[Matt Jones]

Control alt shift triggers advanced complex software applications.

[Myron Medcalf]

Okay, well, maybe that's what I'm talking about. The thing where it just shuts the whole thing.

[Matt Jones]

So you think. So just to be clear, that's Control Alt delete. But you think North Carolina needs to trigger advanced, complex software applications.

[Myron Medcalf]

Going to be a challenging job. I think that's what I was. That's what I was referring to.

[Matt Jones]

But I like the idea, though, that you think they should hire a coach and then look at all their wives and say, did any of your wives go to North Carolina? If your wives did not go to North Carolina, then you can't be part of this program.

[Myron Medcalf]

I mean, that's just their reality. Now. It's going to be hard to get them away from the family thing, especially because there's so many influential alums attached to that program.

[Matt Jones]

But I will tell you, you taught me something today. Not so much Control alt shift, which you didn't know what that was, but you taught me the fact that the coaches, all of their wives are North Carolina alums might be the creepiest thing that I've ever heard in my entire life.

[Myron Medcalf]

I don't. I'm not going to use the words. I think it's just. It shows you what it's like when you get attached to this idea of the family.

[Matt Jones]

And how do you not think that's weird? He's trying to act like this is normal because he has to talk to the North Carolina staff. Do you not think this is weird to.

[Guest Contributor]

With all the.

[Myron Medcalf]

Everyone.

[Matt Jones]

The wives. All the wives going to the same university. That's weird, right?

[Guest Contributor]

It's not. I don't think it's normal. Like, it's not something.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, thank you. And the word there is weird.

[Myron Medcalf]

It's not even their spouses in college. A lot of people meet their spouse.

[Matt Jones]

How's it a coincidence? Like, have you ever gotten find your spouse?

[Myron Medcalf]

Probably meet their spouses in college, hiring

[Matt Jones]

people that went to unc. They found their spouses at unc. Like, I don't think it's that crazy. Now, if it's like they check before they hire you, that's. That's insane. But like, if it's just they want

[Myron Medcalf]

you to understand the family when you work there, it's a real thing. Like they want you to understand the culture.

[Matt Jones]

I I honestly feel like you're describing the plot to like the Godfather. Between part one and two you will marry inside of our town and you will pick amongst one of these three sets of wives. It is Myron. It is weird. And you, I know you like Hubert Davis, but it is that is strange. Go outside the family. Carolina, it's time. It's 2026. You can extend across the borders of the Tar Heel State to someone else and we will get ready for more games. I've only got 15 more minutes because I gotta go get ready for Kentucky, Iowa State, that's next.

[Myron Medcalf]

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[Matt Jones]

It is Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. I like these comments coming in about some of your opinions. One person says, I don't know how Myron thinks Jack Hughes should get the puck. Does Myron think the Declaration of Independence should be in Thomas Jefferson's great, great grandson's basement?

[Myron Medcalf]

I don't know a lot about the Declaration of Independence for a few reasons, but I think that's a whole different thing. I think the hockey puck is. It's not, it's not. We're not talking about who gets the, you know, I don't know, some historic artifact. This is a puck. That's his.

[Matt Jones]

Who scored the winning goal in the Miracle on Ice?

[Myron Medcalf]

Do you know the name of the guy? I can't think of the name of the guy.

[Matt Jones]

So what Would be better for the Miracle on Ice game winning. Go for it to be in the Hockey hall of Fame or for it to be in mystery person you don't know's basement.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Like if somebody has it in an

[Matt Jones]

ass, there is a somewhere that's not how I'm history. That we have as human beings. That it is nice to celebrate what I'm thinking. Reason why Van Gogh's paintings are in museums and not out at Frank's Circus Mart in Myrtle Beach.

[Myron Medcalf]

Jack Hughes should be able to.

[Guest Contributor]

I know, I know bias here, but they asked Sidney Crosby, who scored the golden goal in the 2020, what did he say about it? He's like, I never even thought about that that way. Like, it's in the hall of Fame.

[Myron Medcalf]

I love that's in.

[Guest Contributor]

In the hall of Fame.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you. There you go.

[Guest Contributor]

That's a. That's a real captain. It's like. It's very selfish, Jack.

[Matt Jones]

It is very selfish to want to have.

[Myron Medcalf]

Well, selfish is a strong word.

[Matt Jones]

Listen, I think it is selfish. You Sidney Crosby collective celebration.

[Myron Medcalf]

You can't throw Sidney Crosby into this. He's going to go down as one of the five or six greatest players in the history of the sport. He doesn't need a hockey puck.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so I just got it sent. Mike Urizzoni secured, scored the winning goal. Is it better for humanity? Mike? Mike, my goal scorer. Is it better for him, Arizu Ruzi, for him to have the puck or for the the hall of Fame to have the puck?

[Myron Medcalf]

Listen, ultimately I can understand you saying the values in the Hockey hall of Fame having it. I don't like the idea of the Hockey hall of Fame having the ability to say, that's mine. That's what I'm challenging.

[Matt Jones]

But sometimes you need. Sometimes you need to save people from themselves. Because a person is always. Well, not always. Sidney Crosby clearly did. But a lot of times people are going to say, me, me, me, me, me. And sometimes it needs to be we, we, we, we, we. You believe that? In a lot of instances, Myron, it's odd to me you're doing this with sports artifacts, brother.

[Myron Medcalf]

We talk about a hockey puck, all right?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, but a hockey puck. That is arguably the first or second biggest hockey puck in the history of the United States, which is why this

[Myron Medcalf]

shouldn't even be public right now. What should happen is there should be a conversation between Jack Hughes and Hockey hall of Fame. I think what he's saying is essentially the Hockey hall of Fame didn't Have a conversation with him. They just said, this is ours. I think that's where it becomes problematic.

[Matt Jones]

I think the Hockey hall of Fame probably assumed everyone always give this stuff to the collective. What are you doing saying you get it?

[Myron Medcalf]

Okay, let's say someone comes out and they say, okay, there's a giant shot in Kentucky history. The University of Kentucky says, hey, Ortega, Yes. Give us that basketball.

[Matt Jones]

Should not have that basketball.

[Myron Medcalf]

You gotta be joking me.

[Matt Jones]

That's his ball. If he wants it, okay, The University of Kentucky should display.

[Myron Medcalf]

Absolutely not. If he wants to give it to the university.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, let me ask you a question. At the end of basketball games in the NCAA tournament, do the players just get to take the balls home?

[Myron Medcalf]

I don't know if that's standard.

[Matt Jones]

No, but they don't. They don't just get to take the balls home.

[Myron Medcalf]

But let's say there's a situation where that was possible. You think the University of Kentucky has the right to just snatch that ball?

[Matt Jones]

I think it is better for humanity if the University of Kentucky has the ball and displays it than for the player to just do whatever with it. Because I don't know what Ortega owe would do, but there are players out there who would just go sell it. And I don't think that's really what it's about. There's a collective history to sports that, that we as fans should celebrate.

[Myron Medcalf]

But isn't it up to Otega O way to say, listen, I'm going to give this ball to the University of Kentucky and then they can do with it what they want for the University of Kentucky. If they just show up in the locker room and say, hey, Ortega, that's our ball.

[Matt Jones]

But it was not problem with that. But it's not always ball. No one gets to take balls home

[Myron Medcalf]

with them in a situation where that's possible, is what I'm saying.

[Matt Jones]

I just want. I just want for the record, here's what Myron would do. Myron would go and play a golf course and get a hole in one and dig the hole out of the ground and say, this is my wood. Like, you know, like that's what Myron would do. Myron would take the flag and the golf cart and be like, now I am proclaiming, all of this is mine.

[Myron Medcalf]

No, if you're telling me these athletes are giving things for them to be on display, but that's a lot different.

[Matt Jones]

They're not theirs to begin with. So are you just concerned about them selling it later? Like, could you not?

[Myron Medcalf]

Like.

[Matt Jones]

No. Actually, my argument As I don't even care about the money part of it. My argument is, like, when I go to. When I go to Europe, you go into these museums and you see the great works of art throughout generations of history. They're in these museums because there's a belief that there's something good about everyone sharing in our collective human work. Sports. Now wait a minute, I'm getting somewhere in America. Sports is that for us, to some extent, sports is a collective, for lack of a better term, art that we all participate in. And it is better for mementos from that art to be shared than to be sell, than to be kept by individuals. But could he A little bit and then like, it's an agreement that after so many years, or like after he dies, it goes into the hall of Fame. Okay, I'd be.

[Myron Medcalf]

That could be a conversation.

[Matt Jones]

Okay with that.

[Myron Medcalf]

I'm glad you brought up European museums where a bunch of that art was taken. At the end of the day, it wasn't like all these artists were like, here. And I think that's my problem.

[Matt Jones]

Most of. Most of the stuff was. Here's what most of it was. It was sold over the years. And at some point, someone realized that donating it to a museum was much more of a good use of its resources than being kept in private.

[Guest Contributor]

Whatever the puck was never Jack uses to begin with either. Like, they can't just go and rip the jersey off of his back and take it. Hall of Fame.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that jersey is his.

[Myron Medcalf]

Like, we're being selective about this, though.

[Guest Contributor]

No, but that was hit. Like that's his. That was on him. The puck wasn't his. Like, the puck was.

[Myron Medcalf]

It's his moment.

[Guest Contributor]

Like, was on the ice because the Olympics provided it onto the ice.

[Myron Medcalf]

It's. It's his moment. It'll be the biggest thing that ever happens in his entire career. You can't compare him to the Sidney Crosby's of the world because they have so many achievements like that.

[Matt Jones]

Well, he. He could end up being one of the great.

[Myron Medcalf]

Nothing will be bigger than this, though. He'll never do anything. He can win eight Stanley Cups. It won't be bigger than that. And I think that, to me, is why it should at least be a conversation and a partnership between him and the Hockey hall of Fame. Do it the right way is all I'm saying. Don't just take things and say we get to do it because we're the hall of Fame. I'm against that idea.

[Matt Jones]

You.

[Myron Medcalf]

That's not always bald. Are you kidding? I'M not saying, oh, he gets to take it home and you don't want to make it in the balance.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think when not picking any particular president, but when you do you think when a president leaves office, he should be able to take the Oval Office, get stuff with it?

[Myron Medcalf]

I'm have a U haul in the front.

[Matt Jones]

So you would take the entire White House and be like, now this is Myron's.

[Myron Medcalf]

Give me the desk, the couches, the pins, everything. I'm clearing the whole place.

[Matt Jones]

All right, that's fine art on the wall. You know, Myron's world, you just go somewhere like an old, you know, Viking and take and village everything.

[Myron Medcalf]

Unless it's like his home with you. Unless it's like historic.

[Matt Jones]

Jack Hughes go by definition is historic.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah, but. And it's his to give to the Hockey hall of Fame. It's not the Hockey hall of Fame's right to just take it. That's all I'm saying.

[Matt Jones]

I never realized you had this selfishness. I also didn't realize that you believed in family like North Carolina. This Myron of the last 30 minutes is a different Myron than I have known for most of my life. So I appreciate learning a new selfish, patriarchal side to myself.

[Myron Medcalf]

Let me keep the puck. That's all I'm saying, man.

[Matt Jones]

All right, Byron, you are going to be joined. Who's with you in this last segment while I go get ready for this game?

[Myron Medcalf]

Enjoy it. Stay in the building.

[Matt Jones]

Join Myron Cats and Iowa State. I will be pacing the streets of St. Louis and Matt Myron will return.

[Myron Medcalf]

Thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the Podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday Morning at at 10:00am Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, and on SiriusXM Channel 80. Matt and Myron the podcast

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[Myron Medcalf]

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