Hour 3: $150,000

Summary

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Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Hour 3: $150,000 (December 1, 2025)
Hosts: Myron Medcalf & Matt Jones
Platform: ESPN Radio
Special Guest: Carolina Mike

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Episode Overview

Hour 3 of Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron is a lively pre-game show mixing football analysis, fan interactions, and a special guest appearance by viral Panthers fan and musician Carolina Mike. The episode spotlights college coaching drama (focused on Lane Kiffin), NFL predictions, fan hot-takes in “King of the Mountain,” and the feel-good story of a song about $150,000 that’s captured NFL fans’ imaginations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Debate: Lane Kiffin & Coaching Drama

• The central college football storyline is Lane Kiffin’s rumored messy exit from Ole Miss to LSU, with hosts debating the ethical and professional shadiness of his actions (see Notable Quotes).
• Comparison to John Sumrall (Tulane coach headed to Florida), regarded as less controversial because he’s not moving within the same conference.

Tone: Witty, irreverent, values honesty and accountability from coaches and media.

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2. Fan Segment: “King of the Mountain”

(Starts ~04:00)

• A recurring call-in competition to crown the week’s best sports take.
• Callers included rants, wild predictions (from “Jordan Love to win more Super Bowls than Rodgers” to Philly fans defending their right to boo if they paid $750 per seat).
• The winning take: DJ from San Antonio, with a Lane Kiffin relationship analogy and a self-deprecating Cowboys fan comment.

Notable Quotes:

• “If you date a girl and all she does is leave the guys … then you get with her and then she leaves you. Who’s the fool?” — DJ, King of the Mountain winner (09:13)

Segment result: DJ dethrones the reigning musical champ (“Kevin O’Connell Busted Quarterback Shop”) for King of the Mountain, with Matt and Myron split, and tiebreaker going DJ’s way.

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3. Fan Culture and Philly’s Reputation

(11:24)

• A passionate Philly fan (Travis) insists paying $1,500 for seats entitles him to boo:
  “If I’m paying $750 for a seat, I can do what I want … I can boo in that seat, I can cheer in that seat.”
• Hosts riff on the value—and self-recognition—of Philly fans.

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4. The $150,000 Song & Carolina Mike

(Introduced ~26:49, Full Segment from 33:30 onward)

• Matt discovers “Carolina Mike,” a Panthers fan from Minnesota who writes old-school, playful rap songs about what he’d do with $150,000, gaining unexpected virality after being played on the Manningcast.
• Mike shares the origin story:
  Wrote the first verse in 2023 as part of a song-a-day challenge; it grew after a July 4th TikTok.
  “People were like, ‘Where’s the rest of the song?’ I was like, that is the rest of the song … I had to add a second verse.” (34:51)
• Mike performs a verse live, delighting the hosts with lines about buying Panthers tickets, Porsches, and realizing the HOA wouldn’t allow a tennis court (36:15).
  *“Spend 150,000 on a football team. Wait a minute. That’s not enough to buy a team…”
• Discussion celebrates the humble, attainable fantasy behind $150,000 vs. the over-the-top aspirations of most rap culture.
  • “He’s recognizing the limits of what he says … You can think money will solve all your problems, but there’s still gonna be issues. So you just need to be right with yourself and in your soul. And then that’s how you make success.” — Matt Jones (30:58)

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5. NFL Picks with Carolina Mike (Celebrity Guest Picker)

(Starts 38:08)

• Mike, Matt, and Myron go rapid-fire through the NFL slate, mixing analysis and fan optimism.
• Mike unabashedly picks his Panthers, offers clever takes, and reinforces his fan cred.
• Myron teases: “If I had $150,000, I’d put it on the Rams in this game!” (42:14)

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6. Recurring Humor, Personality, and Banter

• Running explainer on Myron’s claim that he “knows all the Black people in Minnesota,” with playful back-and-forth with Carolina Mike.
• Lively critique of sports clichés, coaching drama, and viral internet fandom.
• Use of music and pop culture (“Weezer,” “Cash Money,” “Blues Traveler”) to draw generational contrasts.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Lane Kiffin’s drama:
  “Only Lane Kiffin would burn a bridge while still trying to stand on it.”
  — Cited agent, via Brett McMurphy (03:11)
• On King of the Mountain winner DJ’s approach:
  “If you date a girl and all she does is leave … you. Who’s the fool?”
  — DJ, caller (09:10)
• Philly fan Travis, on booing rights:
  “If I’m paying $750 for a seat … I can boo in that seat. … Do not call us disgusting fans for booing.” (11:24)
• Carolina Mike describing his process:
  “The hook goes like this: I pay all my bills on time. … That was the first one.” (33:53)
• Matt on $150,000 song’s realism:
  “The amount of money he wants—very realistic amount. … He just wants $150,000.” (29:21)
• Carolina Mike, rapping live:
  “Spend 150,000 on a football team. … Wait, what? Minnesota build me a tennis court outside my house, but the HOA is gonna make me tear it down. … Might get some Panthers season ticks.” (36:15-36:41)
• On why he’s a Panthers fan in Minnesota:
  “I grew up in South Carolina... I gotta have some piece of home.” (37:43)
• On the $150,000 philosophy:
  “You may think you want a yacht, but you don’t even know how to drive a yacht.” — Matt Jones (31:17)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• King of the Mountain Takes: 04:00–14:00
• Lane Kiffin Coaching Drama: 16:19–26:08
• Introduction of Carolina Mike & $150,000 Song: 26:49–33:30
• Carolina Mike Interview & Live Performance: 33:30–36:50
• NFL Game Picks with Carolina Mike: 38:08–44:30
• Episode wrap & outro with $150,000 chorus: 44:42–45:03

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Overall Tone and Language

Conversational, comedic, sometimes irreverent but always grounded in sports fandom and real-life experience. Guests and callers are engaged with warmth, wit, and plenty of pop culture references. Even heated college football drama is discussed with a wink and a nod.

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Summary Takeaway

Hour 3 of Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron is classic sports radio at its best: smart, funny, interactive, and ready to celebrate the quirks of football fandom. Whether debating Lane Kiffin’s ethics, poking fun at viral music, or just letting fans have their say, Matt and Myron deliver a laid-back but insightful Sunday sports ride—highlighted this week by Carolina Mike’s anthem to $150,000, realism, and the enduring hopes of Panthers fans everywhere.

Transcript

[Matt Jones]

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[Carolina Mike]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Carolina Mike]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Jones]

It is Matt Myron here counting you down to kick off on ESPN Radio. One hour, the start of the early games. We've had a fun morning with Herb. We've had a fun morning talking Lane Kiffin, myron, the big F1 fan. But it is now time for King of the Mountain. And by the way, here's how king of the mountain works. 888 say ESPN. You come in, if you have the best take, you're the champ of the week. And then if it's good enough, you'll take down our reigning winner. I forgot to call for calls for the break so let's just do it now. 888 say ESPN. 30 seconds or last. You come in, you bring it and we pick the best one. It's very easy. These calls are getting better every week. Y' all are starting to get the hang of it. 888 say ESPN. The phone lines are open right now. Before we do it, we're still waiting on what Lane Kiffin is going to do. Byron, what? Still couple things. First of all, the reporter that said the thing about it, you can't turn a blank into a housewife do. If he was do you would you have told him he was in the wrong?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I don't think you can use that language about another per. I just, that's just too far. Like I get being critical but stuff like that just goes the language isn't okay. And I just don't to me I've always felt like if I'm going to say something or write something about a coach, a player, you know, I'd say it to them directly.

[Matt Jones]

So you would say Ben Garrett of On3Sports Ole Miss Spirit messed up.

[Myron Metcalf]

I thought it was a little far.

[Matt Jones]

Personally.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, personally.

[Matt Jones]

All right, that so that now second thing, Tulane coach John Sumrall is going to coach in the, in the bowl game even though he's going to Florida. You go or excuse Me, not in the bowl game, in the playoffs. Are you good with that? Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's a different situation than Lane Kiffin and, and being in an SEC school and maybe going to another SEC school. To me, there's no real threat. How many guys would he actually take with him to Florida? You know, he's going up a different level. It's not in the same league. I think you let him coach. I think that's the right move.

[Matt Jones]

Even though that won't, I mean, he'll be, he'll be preparing and getting ready till almost Christmas.

[Myron Metcalf]

He will be. But again, I think it's just a different situation. If, if you have a coach at Tulane, you have to know that if an SEC school comes calling, he's leaving, then I think everyone kind of understands that those three are for you.

[Matt Jones]

It's an example of the difference is the level. Right? It's the fact that he's going to the same league or not.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's a different level. He's elevated to a different level. I think that's okay.

[Matt Jones]

One, an agent told Brett McMurphy this quote, unquote, only Lane Kiffin would burn a bridge while still trying to stand on it.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's a great line. That's an incredible line. I'm going to steal that. That is a great. That's a great line, man. And it's, it's true because Matt, I don't know that. How, how does he go back at this point, right? Like he's, he is burning.

[Matt Jones]

Well, yeah, I don't think he had burned the bridge. I think that's, that's fair. All right, let's get started. 888, say ESPN King of the Mountain, Willingham or first of all, let's play our King of the Mountain reigning champ. Ladies and gentlemen, your winner and new King of the Mountain champion. All right, Bill. 30 seconds. Go.

[Carolina Mike]

Time now for the new and improved version of the Kevin o' Connell Busted Quarterback Shop on the Matt Myron show starring Matt Jones and Myron Metcalf.

[Matt Jones]

If you got a bunch of quarterback, we can fix them fast. Then you'll have a QB that's guaranteed to last. Hi, I'm Kevin o'.

[Carolina Mike]

Connell.

[Matt Jones]

If you've got a Kirk Cousins or.

[Carolina Mike]

A Daniel Jones who might need a little tune up or a Sam Darnold.

[Matt Jones]

Who needs a complete overhaul, Bring them to the Kevin o' Connell Busted Quarterback Shop.

[Carolina Mike]

We'll fix them upright, guaranteed.

[Matt Jones]

If you got a buster quarterback, we can fix them fast. Then you'll have a QB that's Guaranteed to last.

[Carolina Mike]

Kevin o', Connell, buster quarterback shop is not affiliated with the Minnesota Vikings football organization.

[Matt Jones]

Five weeks he's been the champ. He goes for number six. And I've bopped my head every single time the song is played. Even though I don't even particularly like the song anymore, it still kind of stays in my head. Let's get started. Willingham in Virginia. 30 seconds go. Phones working. Is it Willingham or is Willingham. I had other Willingham's. Willingham. You're the only Willingham. Go.

[Caller]

Okay. My. My king around. It's the Buffalo Bill stab. A chance to lose. Miss out on the playoff due to the fact that if they do this guy against Pittsburgh City, they have the Cincinnati be coming up and they will not make the playoff. Thanks for taking my call, guys.

[Matt Jones]

All right, there you go. Not really a take, just a statement.

[Myron Metcalf]

They could be out. They could be out of the playoff hunt. I mean, I think that's. That's a take.

[Matt Jones]

You're not going to think that's a contender though, for King of the Mountain.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know what the other calls are. I mean, I'm not going to.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, all right, fair enough.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm not sure Ban Willingham. When. I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I like Willingham. You don't hear a lot of people named Willingham.

[Myron Metcalf]

Willingham.

[Matt Jones]

I've ever met one person named Willingham. Let's go to Jordan.

[Caller]

Go ahead, Jordan, buddy. Hey, man. Zach Prescott's going to be your MVP of this season. Dallas Cowboys are going to win their last five games for 11 and five. And I see the Eagles even though I know they got a starting schedule coming up, maybe losing those games. Cowboys taking over the NFC East. We haven't had a repeat champion the NFC east. And I forgot how many years bad. You're the expert. You can tell me that. But that's how it's going to go. And Brian Schutt Knopper is going to get his fixes. Love you guys.

[Matt Jones]

I like the energy and I appreciate calling me an expert. So those things. Because you notice he didn't call Myron an expert. So point for Jordan there. I like. I like his call. Marcus in Mississippi. Go ahead, Marcus.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. For breakfast.

[Carolina Mike]

All right. Hey, dude.

[Caller]

So why is nobody talking about what Jordan Love is doing in Green Bay? I'm a New Orleans Saints fan, but in Green Bay, it looks so different than it did last year or the prior years. Because Jordan Love is playing at a level that he's finding way to win games even in Close scores. He's finding a way to win. So he beat the Detroit Lions, who are, some say super bowl champions.

[Matt Jones]

But, wow, that's more than 30 seconds.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's got to be long. Longer than 30 seconds.

[Matt Jones]

You got.

[Myron Metcalf]

You got to go to, like, the clock.

[Matt Jones]

Who's working the clock? First of all, the clock got turned off there. 888, ESPN. Rachel. Second clock, Rachel was so.

[Carolina Mike]

I'm watching the clock.

[Matt Jones]

You were so messed up. That was 94 seconds, Marcus's draw.

[Caller]

That was a good 26 seconds.

[Commercial Announcer 1]

Guys, calm down.

[Matt Jones]

Well, it felt much longer. Eight, eight, eight say ESPN. I'm about to switch it to 25. Some people need to only do 25. Let's go to camp in California. Go, camp.

[Caller]

Hey, same thing about Jordan Love. Go, Pack, go. We're going to the Super Bowl. Jordan Love is going to win more Super Bowls than Aaron Rodgers. He's going to win at least two. One this year and one two years from now. And I'm going to the Wisconsin. Notre Dame game in Lambeau Field next year. Go, Pack, go.

[Matt Jones]

All right. There you go. Maybe when I spoke about how the calls have gotten better every week, I got a little aggressive, right? Maybe they're still tight. 888. Say ESPN. We got a couple of people on couple open lines. Let's not give up. D.J. in San Antonio. Go, D.J.

[Caller]

Hey, what's going on, y', all, man? Hey, let me tell you something, all right? First of all, I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, so I'm not that stupid. But even if we do win out, we still gotta win out in the playoffs to get to the super bowl, which ain't gonna happen, but we have. It's good for next year. But the real thing I'm talking about is Lane Kiffin. Why don't y' all just leave the man alone? He got Ole Miss to this point, all right? I'm not even an Ole Miss fan or Lane Kitchen fan. If you date a girl and all she does is leave the guys all the time, she's never steady with them. Then you get with her and then she leaves you. Who's the fool?

[Matt Jones]

DJ on the Dr. Pepper calling line.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's a good one. You know, I like that.

[Matt Jones]

I liked it. But isn't that a little bit what that reporter said about what you can't turn into a housewife?

[Myron Metcalf]

He said it in the way. He said it in a way that you should have said it.

[Matt Jones]

But, I mean, that guy just said it in a very, you know, PC way. Well, but the other Guy was like, look, he did it succinct. I mean, I like dj. DJ was a little longer. But the other guy was saying the same thing.

[Myron Metcalf]

You can't.

[Matt Jones]

Don't act right.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, you can't say that.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, you could do it a different way. You could. He could have said, can't turn Lane into a housewife. Lane. Don't act right. Would that have been all right?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't. I like the way this guy said it.

[Matt Jones]

That was more PC Brian in New Jersey on the doctor paper calling line. Go ride.

[Caller]

Gentlemen, I don't know if you remember. I called week one. I'm the Giants fan who still believes in Danny Dimes. I'm predicting another Danny Dimes. Big day. Everyone's saying he's hurt. They're going to lean on jt. Texans have a great defense today. Daniel Dimes will come out. Be precise. 300 yards, three tutties. I'm calling her right now. Big game for Danny Dimes today. Let's go.

[Matt Jones]

I will give you credit. I do remember you calling in week one of the season and saying you still believed in Danny Dimes and that's ended up proving to be a good opinion, Myron. So I give him credit. He did say that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. But I mean, Danny Dimes is a broken leg, I believe, at this point and look rather pedestrian in his last matchup, which was the first matchup in a long time against a good team. So I think there are a lot of people who don't believe in the Colts and Colts. Fans get mad about it. But you, you look at what happened with Jonathan Taylor. He gets bottled up. I don't think he was held under 60, under 80 yards.

[Matt Jones]

I just wanted to give him credit and call that. But, you know, you. You're giving all analysis. I just was giving credit because he did call that week one. Travis to Philly, go.

[Caller]

First of all, stop calling Philly fans disgusting fans for sitting in the. Fans in the stands booing. Listen, If I'm paying $750 for a seat, I can do what I want to do with that seat. I can boo in that seat. I can cheer in that seat. I can crawl in that seat. I can lay down in that seat. Do not cause disgusting fans for booing. First of all, the team said, don't count last year's win. Count us for this year's super bowl champs is gone. You gotta perform. And If I'm paying 750 a seat for me and my wife, fourteen hundred dollars, I can boo in that seat. Thanks.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, hang on just a second. Let me. Let me start. Did you pay $750 a seat, or is that like a theoretical thing?

[Caller]

Yeah, if you want the 100 rolls, you gotta pay 700.

[Matt Jones]

Did you.

[Myron Metcalf]

Are you paying that?

[Matt Jones]

Did you pay it this weekend?

[Caller]

The Chicago game was 750 a seat. Me and my wife.

[Matt Jones]

That is a lot.

[Myron Metcalf]

Paid fifteen hundred dollars to watch that.

[Matt Jones]

Game and listen like, you.

[Myron Metcalf]

You know that you. You know that Philly fans fight people. Like, you all have been fighting people for, like, 50 years.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, do you honestly think y'.

[Caller]

All.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, it was my mom, Travis. It wasn't me. My mom said y' all weren't nice.

[Caller]

Is the most passionate place in football.

[Myron Metcalf]

Punching people is a passion. That's just fighting people.

[Matt Jones]

Travis, thank you very much. All right, so the question is, first of all, Myron, who's the winner for today? Lots of choices. You got guys. Bills won't make the playoff. Jordan's dak is the mvp. Kip in California says Jordan love dj, gave his Lane Kiffin relationship. Ryan in New Jersey, love Danny Dimes. And then Travis in Philly, who you got?

[Myron Metcalf]

I like DJ in the Lane Kiffin relationship. You know, I wanted Willingham to win after what you said about him, but I go with DJ.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going with DJ, too. I think DJs the winner. He made a good Lane Kiffin comment. He also said he was a Cowboys fan, but that doesn't mean he's stupid. I like that as well. So now, does DJ beat out the Kevin o' Connell dance party, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

Probably not. Probably not. But it's a good effort. But I won't give him that championship yet.

[Matt Jones]

I'm giving it to dj because why? Because he, first of all, said Cowboys fans weren't stupid, which we implied that we thought he was. And then secondly, did the Lang Kiffin thing. And third, you know, it's been five weeks. I don't think. I think it's ready for a new one. I'm taking dj. That means there's a tie. James, you break it. Dj or the Kevin o' Connell Shop.

[Myron Metcalf]

Congratulations to our new King of the.

[Matt Jones]

Mountain, dj.dj in San Antonio, the new King of the Mountain after five.

[Myron Metcalf]

Congratulations.

[Matt Jones]

Congratulations, dj. We'll play your call again next week and you all can be. Take him away. Congrats to our guy from Nebraska. He had it Bill for a long time. ESPN BET is becoming the Score BET this December. Same app you love with a fresh new look and more rewards just for you. 21 plus gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER-PLUS. The Kevin O' Connell thing wasn't working out as well in recent in recent weeks. We will come back more NFL with Matt Myron on espn.

[Myron Metcalf]

So you wanted someone new?

[Matt Jones]

I just know Matt and Myron.

[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Jones]

The Lane Kiffin Things get ugly. I'm just going to go ahead and tell you, like, I mean, the people online, Ole Miss fans. I think he probably could have left Myron in a way that would have Ole Miss fans would have still, like, loved him. But I don't think he's doing it that way. I think he's like, he's burning it down while he's going.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. If you announce to your partner, you know what? Two weeks from now, I'm going to make a decision about whether or not I'm staying or I'm moving on to this other person. I've Been interested in recently. What do you think's going to happen? I mean, everyone should be upset because it doesn't have to be this way. If he's going to leave. Leave. But the drama is only making everything worse.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. And the playoff and like. Yeah. It's just a lot. This is a lot. We'll find out. It's good drama, though. Travis and Philly called in King of the Mountain a few minutes ago. He's the best fan of the month because he paid 700. Well, no, Travis Philly didn't win.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, that was him. No, that wasn't him. It was another D.J.

[Matt Jones]

Did it, but he didn't win. Yeah, D.J.

[Myron Metcalf]

Didn'T.

[Matt Jones]

This thing. I'm. Did y'. All. Did y'. All. Yeah, but I didn't call him the King of the Mountain.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I.

[Matt Jones]

He's the fan of the month. Oh, he's the fan of the month. Okay. We're giving him a different award promo, man. All right, never mind. Let me start this.

[Myron Metcalf]

Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, rewrack that. Travis in Philly who called in for King of the Mountain but did not win a few minutes ago. We're naming him best fan of the month because he paid $750 each to watch the Eagles lose to the Bears with his wife on Black Friday. We only give fair of the month to rich people, but we are brought to you by Dr. Pepper. It's not college football season without the delicious taste of an Ice cold Dr. Pepper. College football. It's a Pepper thing.

[Myron Metcalf]

Travis only called to tell us that he paid.

[Matt Jones]

He wanted us to know he had 750.

[Myron Metcalf]

It had nothing to do with Philly fans. He just wanted to say, like, I paid $1,500 because I.

[Matt Jones]

That old Mitch Hamburg joke where he's like, you know what happens when you drive around in the limo? You're telling the world, I have $200.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's exact. That's why Travis called.

[Matt Jones]

Want to say that's exactly.

[Myron Metcalf]

He's like, if you want to get.

[Matt Jones]

In these seats, yeah, it cost you 1500.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know about you peasants in the nosebleeds, but yeah, if I pull.

[Matt Jones]

Up in a limo, that means I have $200. Shador Sanders is getting his first home start today after a decent performance in Las Vegas in a game they won. The world has. Has been set on fire. Shador Sanders even said, if I did this in one game, imagine what I'd do with a year of practice. The Browns are supposedly going to give him some leeway, and they're open to him potentially starting for the rest of the year. I thought he played fine. It was basically the same as Dylan Gabriel has played. He just played a lot worse team tonight. He plays the 49ers. Going to be a little bit of a different opponent. How do you think it's going to go for it?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, I think it could be more challenging. I think this is a better team. Coming in a lot of injuries on that Niners defense. But, you know, you play the Raiders. That's a. That's not going to be what you're facing this week was fine right now, don't you think? I mean, yeah, Shadur was fine, but I don't know that he was more than that. Like, again, I'm not in the. I'm not in this deal of like, every time we say Shadura Sanders name, somebody pops up on Twitter and is like, which side are you on?

[Matt Jones]

You don't.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's not good enough for me to have to take a side.

[Matt Jones]

Kendrick Perkins comments this week?

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh my God. I'll hold my tongue on that.

[Matt Jones]

I'll hold my tongue on why Kendrick just made a very reasonable, valuable point to the discourse.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, no one's ever. No one's ever said what he said. I think about Shadow. I don't think that's real, but I think what it shows is everyone feels like we have to Shador represents something. That's this idea. And I'm like, what does he represent.

[Matt Jones]

Other than what is he representing?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't understand. I don't. I don't know. But some people are taking this on this idea that he represents them. This is a guy who was the son of an NFL legend, has been played, put in a position to get to this level his entire life. And now he's here. Now he's got to go prove it. And last week, I wish solid showing, but I.

[Matt Jones]

It is baffling to me the way people, like, sort of mythologize this guy. I don't get it. Like, I don't. I don't understand. Like, if he's successful, good for him. If he's not successful, oh, well. But why do people act like he's. I asked my mom, all right? I said, mom, how many NFL players can you name? She said, there's a guy named Patrick. And I was like, yes. And she said, then there's Taylor Swift's husband. And I said, yes. And then she said, isn't there a Lamar? And I said, yes. So then I went, do you know Shador Sanders. And she was like, no, honey, I do not. How is he a cultural figure? In what respect?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't, I don't know what, what he represents to people. But I tell you what, today will be a big moment. If he has a big game or a terrible game, there's going to be a giant reaction one way, and that's fine. There'll be an exaggeration either way.

[Matt Jones]

And maybe that means he's really good, but that doesn't mean he's a cultural figure. He's just a dude, isn't he?

[Myron Metcalf]

And he ain't Obama. But I'll leave it at that. I don't know what people are talking about, but this is, well, get a little ridiculous.

[Matt Jones]

One person that said he was Obama. We will get you ready for the final games. Plus Carolina Mike, our guest picker. That's next here on Matt Myron on.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myron the podcast.

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[Matt Jones]

You liking this, Myron? This is Weezer.

[Myron Metcalf]

It'S that old school kind of like. I bet I know the year this came out. Just listen. 07.

[Matt Jones]

No, no, no way.

[Kevin Clark]

Earlier.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Mid 90s.

[Myron Metcalf]

Really?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. If you want to. The lyrics are, if you want to destroy my sweater, hold this strand as I walk away. Is that your kind of song about the destruction of a sweater?

[Myron Metcalf]

No, probably not. But I mean, it's interesting. You know, this was that era where you can make up a song about anything and people would love it, right?

[Matt Jones]

No, it's this era. It was nerd rock. Like, they put songs out like this that were kind of ironic and like, we're supposed to, you know, like Blues Traveler. Hook. Do you know that song where he's like. The song's basically like, I can say whatever words I want, and if the hook is good, you're still going to like it. That, like, it was. It was irony, Myron.

[Myron Metcalf]

I like it. No, I like that. Weezer.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think you do. I think you're just being nice. Matt. Myron's. Presented by Progressive Insurance. The annual Progressive Keys to Progress program provides vehicles to deserving victims, helping our heroes drive their lives forward. Learn [e-mail] on 3Sports. I can't believe this report. And again, we're not confirming it. I'm just reading you the report. From on three. Chris Lowe reports Lane Kiffin has lined up most of his offensive staff to join him at lsu. He's told them if they're not on the plane to Baton Rouge with him today, they won't have a spot on the staff.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, that's tough. It's not a great situation. Like, how does this get messy?

[Matt Jones]

What if the whole offense leaves? How do you get ready for the playoff?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know. But I tell you what, I'm tall. I'm calling my entire police staff and I'm saying if Lane Kiffin comes near campus jail, because this is to the point. Listen, this is a different thing, man. Now, now you're going from coaches leave. You go through that routine. You do what you got to do. Matt, this is getting nasty now. And now you're talking about if you're Ole Miss being in a situation where you don't have a staff, Matt, for a playoff game. This is an Ole Miss team that has defeated some really good competition this year, and they may not have a coaching staff in the playoff. What are we talking about, man?

[Matt Jones]

You talk about getting ugly quick again. I saw a Duck entry just a few weeks ago where Lane said Ole Miss Saved my life and turned me around as a new person. And he's already like, if you ain't on the plane, you can go to Spain. You're out. Yeah. Unbelievable.

[Myron Metcalf]

A lot of people said that about their partners on their wedding day, and it didn't work out a couple years later.

[Matt Jones]

Don't matter what you say a few weeks after that. All right, The Rams, the Panthers play today in Carolina. You probably don't care a lot about it. I'll tell you why I care about it. This week I discovered. This week I discovered maybe my favorite Internet thing in a while.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

A guy named Carolina Mike. Carolina Mike is a. Is a Panthers fan. He lives in Minnesota. So, like, I don't even know how that happens. You live in Minnesota. How many Carolina Panthers fans do you know, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I feel like I know all the black people in Minnesota. I'm shocked. I haven't met him yet, so I definitely don't know any black Carolina fans.

[Matt Jones]

How would you know all the black people in Minnesota? Like, come on. I mean, I know Chris. I bet we know the Prince.

[Myron Metcalf]

I bet we know the same people. We going to have a conversation. We have a conversation.

[Matt Jones]

You think you and he know the.

[Myron Metcalf]

Same people, G. We know some people. We know some people.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I discovered his song. He writes songs about the Panthers, and I discovered it because it was on the Manning cast. They played one of his songs. Eli seemed like he was a fan. Peyton. I couldn't tell. But Eli and Luke Combs were fans, and I immediately became a fan. So he is going to be our celebrity guest picker in the next segment.

[Myron Metcalf]

Love it.

[Matt Jones]

But before he comes on, I want you to hear his music. Myron, I think it's important for people to understand what he's bringing to the table because this is the hottest dance song in Carolina and maybe even in Minnesota. Let's go ahead and play. First of all, you got to like the beat.

[Carolina Mike]

Have you ever had $150,000 in your hand? Yeah, me either. But if I did, here's exactly what I would do.

[Matt Jones]

That's right. What would you do?

[Carolina Mike]

Spend 150,000 on a big old yacht. Wait a minute. That's not enough to buy a yacht. Spend 150,000 on an iced out watch. Wait, what? I don't even really wear a watch. Put a big screen TV in every room. That wouldn't make sense. Only got five rooms. Maybe buy a little pony from a baby girl. Just might take a trip around the world. I buy some yoga and meditate. I get Some brand new roller skates I spend some cash and fix this beat I might get some go to eat oh, what you said that's made with snails. And Stan, do you have blue crabs for sale? I pull them up then share with my friends as we party up if you had 150,000.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, this is a hit, man.

[Matt Jones]

It's a hit.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

So he is a Carolina Panthers fan. He has another song where he starts and goes, I would buy Carolina Panthers season tickets. Let me tell you why I love him. First of all, old school beat, Myron. Like, that's like, that's generation, like, 80s, 80s rap.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's break dancing music right there. That's like, people would clear the floor for that song right there.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right. Second, I like him because the amount of money he wants, very realistic amount. He's not asking for $10 million. He's not asking for a billion. He just wants $150,000. And that's a lot of money. But, like, I feel like he could get $150,000.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, he could get it.

[Matt Jones]

It's a. In theory, he could have $150,000. So I like Myron. The specific. Specificity and the reasonable amount of money he's asking for.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, it makes, it makes it feel like he's. He's an artist for the people, right? Like, 150,000 sounds a lot more attainable than millions and millions of dollars. And he's really practical. I mean, he's like, wait a minute, I'll put a big screen TV in every room. I only got five rooms. Like, he's just walking himself through this entire thing.

[Matt Jones]

In the song, in other versions of it, he says, I had $150,000, I'd buy a football team. Well, wait a minute. That's not enough to buy a team. Like, he's like. He's recognizing the limits of what he says. I think later in that song, he goes, I'd build a tennis court in my house. But then he's like, but the HOA probably won't let me. Like, he's even thinking about administrative rules. And I think that's really good that he understands that. With. To me, it's a very deep song. Myers. It's basically saying you can think money will solve all your problems, but there's still going to be issues. So you just need to be right when yourself and in your soul. And then that's how you make success.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's. It's the opposite of everything Cash Money told me about in the 99 and 2000, right? Like, it was like, get every car, every chain, everything you could imagine. And this dude is like, well, wait a minute, do you have enough money for all that? Right? So like, you put the two together, you live in a good life.

[Matt Jones]

You may think you want a yacht, but you don't even know how to drive a yacht.

[Myron Metcalf]

So drive a yacht. What you gonna do with a yacht?

[Matt Jones]

So what you gonna do with the yacht that just sits there? You ain't gonna get right with yourself and with God. That's what you do.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And then the.

[Myron Metcalf]

It is great.

[Matt Jones]

The rest of it will take care of itself. He will join us in the next segment. Carolina Mike here with our NFL picks. That's all coming next here on Matt and Myron on espn.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

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[Matt Jones]

It's Matt. What would you do, Matt? Myron here on ESPN Radio. It's a good question to think about and it's why we are here. Ready with our celebrity guest picker. It. Yeah, exactly. Don't get, don't be thinking about your Porsche. It snows too much in Minnesota. Carolina Mike is joining us.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you very much for your time. Thank you.

[Carolina Mike]

What up, party people?

[Caller]

So pumped.

[Carolina Mike]

Let's go.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go. Mike, I want to go through just a second. When did you start writing songs?

[Carolina Mike]

Right around 2018 is when I released my first single.

[Matt Jones]

What was your first single called?

[Carolina Mike]

It was called Good Credit. The hook goes like this. I pay all my bills on time. I'll pay all my bills on time.

[Caller]

Good Credit.

[Carolina Mike]

That was the first one we got.

[Myron Metcalf]

To get a feature, man, we gotta.

[Matt Jones]

We gotta elevate you, man. That's a great song now, so. So the. Clearly, the. The breakout hit is if I had $150,000, where did that song? What. How did it originate?

[Carolina Mike]

Actually, fun fact that the. The first verse of that song came out in 2023, and it was the result of me pushing myself to write, like, 30 songs in 30 days. I got to, like, day five, and I had this beat, and I was like, I like this. And I just kind of played around with some fun things to do with $150,000 and release it in 23 to little fanfare. But then July 4th of this year, I made a quick little video, and it started to blow up, and people were like, where's the rest of the song? I was like, that is the rest of the song. But I had to add a second verse, and that's where the Carolina Panthers first came out.

[Caller]

Oh, well.

[Matt Jones]

And it clearly worked out. And then it started going viral. What was it like? You performed it at the game, right?

[Carolina Mike]

Yes, at the Panthers versus Saints, November 9th. I'll never forget.

[Matt Jones]

Looked like the crowd got into it. Was that awesome?

[Myron Metcalf]

That's amazing.

[Carolina Mike]

It was amazing. Another fun fact. I couldn't tell until I actually saw the video because I had my in ears in, so all I could hear was me and the music. But it was just amazing. It was so surreal. It's almost like it didn't happen. Like, I'm living someone else's life, and.

[Myron Metcalf]

We gotta get T Pain on that track with you, man. That's a. That's a T Pain. So you and T Pain, man. If T Pain is listening, if anybody knows T Pain, hook him up with this dude, because I think you all would go great together.

[Matt Jones]

And then you ended up on the Manning cast. That had to be cool.

[Caller]

That was.

[Carolina Mike]

I was at Buffalo Wild Wings watching the game, and all of a sudden I get all these comments saying, hey, Luke Combs sent me here. And I'm like, what? And so, yeah, that was. That was super wild.

[Matt Jones]

That's amazing. Now, I mean, I don't want to put you on the spot, but it wouldn't be. It'd be kind of like. You think you could do, like, a verse of it here? Do you have your beat?

[Carolina Mike]

I can do whatever you want. I mean, it'll be more acapella.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, well, let's do. We could do acapella. If you want to do acapella before we make our picks, let's go for it. Give us a little bit.

[Carolina Mike]

Spend150,000 on a football team. Wait a minute. That's not enough to buy a team. Spend150,000 on a tricked out Porsche. Wait, what? Minnesota build me a tennis court outside my house, but the HOA is gonna make me tear it down. Might get me some Panthers season ticks. Just might get a tiny home in the sticks. I get some Reese's peanut buttercups. Heck no, I ain't sharing. I' ma eat them all up. Might get me a plane and fly to Spain. Except I don't even know how to drive.

[Matt Jones]

There you go, Caroline.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Matt Jones]

Well, T pain, get on this song.

[Myron Metcalf]

T pain, get on the remix.

[Matt Jones]

T pain. You just did that. You didn't even know we were gonna ask. Look at that.

[Kevin Clark]

Millions.

[Carolina Mike]

Come on. I listen to you guys. I love you guys.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you. Now did you appreciate it? Are you. Let me ask, are you an accountant in Minnesota?

[Carolina Mike]

Not quite an accountant, just the tech nerd I work with. You know, sharepoint, Microsoft Teams and all that stuff. So.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Now Myron says that all black people in Minnesota.

[Myron Metcalf]

I know every black person in Minnesota. Do you know me?

[Carolina Mike]

I don't know if we've met, but I feel like we need to. We're in the same state. I feel like. I feel like we need to watch a game together.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, we gotta connect after the show, man. We gotta. I gotta know all of us, you know, put you on the list last.

[Matt Jones]

Before we do the games. How does a guy in Minnesota become a Carolina Panthers fan?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

What happened there?

[Carolina Mike]

I grew up in South Carolina, so that's where it all started. And when I moved to Minnesota, you know, I was like, I gotta have some piece of home. So I just rooted even harder for my home team.

[Matt Jones]

Love it. Well, that's the way it goes. All right, it is now time. We're gonna make our picks. I'm gonna give you a selection. I'm gonna give you a game. Mike, just go real quick. Just give a team and why you think so? In about one or two sentences. Let's get started. It's time for take a pick.

[Carolina Mike]

Take your pick.

[Matt Jones]

You take your pick. It's time to take your pick with Matt and Myron. What's the first.

[Myron Metcalf]

49Ers at Browns?

[Matt Jones]

Myron Chadoor's first start at home. What do you got?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, it's more about Miles Garrett. I think it's 14 sacks in five games, which is just ridiculous. That's going to be a Factor in this game. But I still pick the 49ers to go to Cleveland and win even though they haven't won since 1984 in Cleveland.

[Matt Jones]

Mike, what do you got?

[Carolina Mike]

I think Shadora takes advantage of a 49ers defense that's been letting QBs do.

[Caller]

What they want to do.

[Carolina Mike]

They haven't been great against the pass this year. I give it to the Browns boy.

[Matt Jones]

Shador, and you would put out a heck of a hit. I think that would be a good follow up. I'll take the 49ers though, to get the win. What's next?

[Myron Metcalf]

Jaguars are Titans. Myron Jack's defense that has I think nine sacks in the last two games. They've just been better defensively trying to chase that division crown. And you know, Cam Ward is still growing. Give me the Jags to win, Mike.

[Carolina Mike]

Yup, the Jags picking the Jags because Trevor Lawrence passing game should outpace the Titans offense. And I feel like ATN is going to eat through a weak Titans defense. Let's go.

[Matt Jones]

Is that because he played at Clemson? Be honest, Mike.

[Carolina Mike]

Well, you know, hey, it is what it is.

[Matt Jones]

That's what I thought. I'm going to take the Jaguars. I always bet against the Titans no matter what. Next Texans at Colts on ESPN Radio right after this. What do you got, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

Daniel Jones has one leg apparently didn't look good last week. Not sure what's going on. This Texans defense is for real. C.J. stroud is back. Give me the Texans to win.

[Matt Jones]

Mike. He actually has two legs. One of them's hurt. What do you got?

[Carolina Mike]

Yep. Division matchup is going to go to the Texans. Texans D strong. They're going to be looking to get after Daniel Jones big time.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I'm going to take the Texans as well. Although I think Daniel Jones will play well. But that defense. Texans are underrated, folks. Get on board now. I got the Texans. What's next? Saints, Ed Dolphins Shock versus tua. What do you got, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, Taysom Hill. He's been playing a lot of roles. Maybe too many roles. I think for that Saints team. I'll pick Miami mostly because they're the home team, not because I believe in either one of these teams.

[Matt Jones]

Mike.

[Carolina Mike]

I feel like sack prone Tyler Shuck is going to get shook by Dolphins D looking to try and salvage any hopes they might have at making the playoff.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, okay, you heard it right there. Well, I can't pick him. I can't pick the Saints after that. Give me two. And the Dolphins. What's next.

[Myron Metcalf]

Falcons at Jets.

[Matt Jones]

Myron Tyler is burned. What you got? Yeah, this.

[Myron Metcalf]

This Falcons defense has been tough getting the quarterbacks and you know, I think that'll be the deciding factor in this game for the Falcons. Give me the Falcons over the Jets.

[Matt Jones]

Mike.

[Caller]

Yo.

[Carolina Mike]

Seems like the Falcons have had the jets number last three times they played. They've taken the victory. So I say they make it four in a row against Tyrod Taylor and company.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I'm going to take the Falcons. As much as Myron loves Kirk Cousins, I think you got to do it. Carolina Mike is joining us here. Picking. Does anybody want the Cardinals against the Bucks? Going once, going twice.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, but Michael Wilson, you don't want.

[Matt Jones]

To do your Mike, you don't want the Cardinals.

[Carolina Mike]

Actually, I am picking the Cardinals because I help boost Carolina's playoff chances. Let's go.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, okay. All right. Mike takes. I think this is a game you may care about. What's next?

[Myron Metcalf]

Rams at Panthers.

[Matt Jones]

All right, I'm gonna let you know what, Myron, let's just let Mike take the floor. Rams at Panthers. Who you got?

[Carolina Mike]

Well, you already know I'm picking the Panthers because, hey, Bryce Young's determination, the team's heart, they can overcome these Rams. I think T. Mac and Young get on the same page. Rico Doddle will come through in the run game. I know the defense is banged up, all right, But I believe the other players are going to take the next man up mentality. Show up and show it at home versus the Rams. Panthers want a close one with this guest.

[Matt Jones]

I got to pick the Panthers. Myron. I'm taking Panthers.

[Myron Metcalf]

If I had $150,000, I'd put it on the Rams in this game. Devonte Adams. Matthew Stafford looking like an mvp. Puka Nakua. Come on, man. The Rams are playing some of the best football in the NFL. Give me the rain.

[Matt Jones]

Tell him that is not nice. That is not.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm just saying, man. I'm just telling you. Cold.

[Matt Jones]

That is cold hearted, y'. All. You two are not gonna be black friends in Minnesota. I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you right now.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, we gonna be cool. We'll be gonna probably go to the same bar.

[Matt Jones]

What's next?

[Myron Metcalf]

Go ahead.

[Matt Jones]

Vikings at Seahawks. Myron, go ahead again.

[Myron Metcalf]

I keep saying this. Big game for the Vikings organization. The Max Bros were terrible. What do you do if Jason McCarthy is also bad? They're in a tough spot. Sam Darnold goes for 300 plus yards. Seahawks win this game and it puts the Vikings in a really awkward spot.

[Matt Jones]

Go, Mike.

[Carolina Mike]

Seahawks looking great. Haven't won five of their last six. So Vikings playing Rosemary's first NFL start doesn't look good for the Vikings.

[Matt Jones]

I'm gonna take the Seahawks. Byron talks too long when it's about Minnesota. What's next? Bills at Steelers. Go, Byron.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think a big Josh Allen game. Give me the Bills to win over.

[Matt Jones]

Pittsburgh on ESPN radio. I'm going to take the Bills. What do you got, Mike?

[Carolina Mike]

Bill's going to bounce back against Steelers after getting embarrassed by the Texans. Rogers is back, but if there's any lingering effects from that hand, it could be tough day for him. So Bills are going to take it. If for nothing else, for pride and a shot at a wild card.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to assume we're all picking the Chargers against the Raiders. Nobody wants Vegas, do they? You want Vegas?

[Caller]

Yep.

[Carolina Mike]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you're taking the charges? Okay. Both of you taking charges. All right, what's next?

[Myron Metcalf]

Broncos at Commanders Sunday night.

[Matt Jones]

What do you got, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

Broncos have been great. I think out of the bye week under Sean Payton, the Broncos win this game over the Commanders even though it's on the road.

[Matt Jones]

Mike.

[Carolina Mike]

Yo, Broncos. Because they got the momentum going in their direction, it's going to be a tough day for Marcus Mariota.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to take the Broncos as well. And finally, on Monday Night Football, Giants at Patriots. Byron.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, Patriots are going to win, but I also think the Patriots are a legit contender. They can't prove that this week, but they will in the future.

[Matt Jones]

This game's going to be close. I'm taking the Patriots, but it's going to be close. Mike.

[Carolina Mike]

Yeah. No upsets here, Patriots.

[Matt Jones]

All right, Carolina. Mike, you're the man. You can find him on. He's on Instagram, he's on Twitter. Mike, thank you very much. You were a delight.

[Carolina Mike]

Thank you so much. I appreciate y'. All.

[Matt Jones]

Mike, do us a favor. We're about to go into game day. Wrap us into game day, if you don't mind.

[Carolina Mike]

If you had 150,000, what would you do? 150 grand in your hand. What would you do if you had 150,000? All right, y', all, I appreciate you.

[Matt Jones]

Game day is next. We'll see you later.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

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