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Matt Myron
If you're in Milwaukee, you shoot those fireworks off. Make sure you follow the hours. Myon's got the police ready to call on July 4th coming up here this weekend. This is Tyler Childers right here. David, by the way.
David Dennis
Oh, you think you could do this right here?
Matt Myron
Just listen to it for a second. You think so?
David Dennis
Yeah. As relatable. I too own a rooster.
Matt Myron
He says he's got women up and down this creek. That's. That's David Dennis. So, like, you should be good.
Brandon Iuk
All right.
Matt Myron
Eight, eight, eight. Say espn. Now, before the break, I have a text machine which is at which people can Text in. It's 772-7745254. And you can text in whatever you want. So this person wrote that, David, they've been waiting for you to host for me for over a year because they want you to publicly apologize. Now, this person says. This person's from Kentucky. Okay, so what do you think? This person wants you to apologize for a Kentucky and for something you had said over a year ago.
David Dennis
Oh, if it's. If it's specific to Kentucky, I'm not sure. I was assuming it might be one of those losers who say we when they're talking about their sports team, but they couldn't be that guy.
Matt Myron
No, that's not it.
David Dennis
That's not it. Okay. So I don't know.
Matt Myron
That's what they say. David Dennis was the biggest Carl Anthony Towns hater in America. I like him, but hey, of Carl Anthony Towns made me so mad. I think it is time for him to publicly eat crow for being so mean to Carl Anthony Towns. There you go. Are you willing to publicly eat crow, as we say in Kentucky, for your hatred of Carl Anthony Towns?
David Dennis
I have never hated Carl in the town. I have said. I've said. Well, you were on the show apparently, and you were there.
Matt Myron
I don't remember this.
David Dennis
Don't Recall this at all. I said that he was one of the reasons that the Knicks were struggling so much. He wasn't playing big, wasn't getting in the post, wasn't playing great defense, wasn't getting to the boards. And lo and behold, they won a championship. Carl Anthony Town.
Matt Myron
Wait a minute now. You can't do that. You can't. You. You can't say you can't make it to where he can't win. Either way, you can't make it to where you say my criticism of him was valid when he actually wouldn't want a title. You can't do it.
David Dennis
Both my criticism was valid because at the time he was not doing the things that I was. That we were talking about. He does the things. They win a championship. I'm just saying.
Matt Myron
Rebounded until this year. I will say that his numbers are very similar to what they were the year before.
David Dennis
I will say this. I will say this. During these playoffs, I've said multiple times that Karl Anthony Towns has outplayed what I thought he could be. He's been. He was a 100% better player. He did all the things so much better than I thought he was going to do, particularly in the finals. Guarding Wimby when he had nothing for Carl Anthony Towns. He outplayed Wimby in the finals except for those games. Except for a couple of games where he had foul trouble and two points. I think a game five or whatever it was like. I think that overall his outperforming all those things I talked about a couple of years or a year ago is a big reason.
Matt Myron
Is this an apology? It feels like a long winded way. You're not going to apologize to Carl Anthony Towns?
David Dennis
No, not.
Matt Myron
It's not hate.
David Dennis
It's not hate. It's not hate.
Matt Myron
Well, as a Carl Anthony Towns, Stan.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
I have always liked Carl Anthony Town.
Podcast Announcer
Yes.
Matt Myron
I've told this story many times. I'll tell it to you in the. Do you remember the 2015 Kentucky team that was so good, almost went 40 and. Oh, and then lost to Wisconsin in the Final Four. Yeah. Had like 10 guys that played in the NBA.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
They went to the Bahamas before the season started. And the best epitome of who Carl Anthony Towns is is this story. He loves his team, but he's a little weird.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
Right.
David Dennis
Like as I've heard. Yes.
Matt Myron
Yes. So the team is around the pool. It's like the Harrison twins, Willie Collinstein, like all these guys that were. That were good. Devin. Devin Booker and booster. This is now legal. So we can say this buys them all shots to celebrate going 40. No. Their goal was to go 40. No. Before the season even started.
David Dennis
Right.
Matt Myron
They do a shot. Carl doesn't drink. But Carl comes running over and goes, I want to do a shot. And he takes the shot glass and he has a shot of air, is what he said. I'll take a shot of air with my teammates.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
So the whole team does a shot. Like, they. They clink it together, and Carl takes a shot of air.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
And I feel like that's the epitome of Carl Towns.
David Dennis
Yeah. He.
Matt Myron
It's a little weird to take a shot of air, but he wanted to
David Dennis
be like, you could have put some juice in there or water.
Matt Myron
He just took a shot of air. But he wanted to be part of his team, and he still was a good guy. I feel like that's Carl in a nutshell.
David Dennis
I'm with you because I will say this, as I have been critical of Karl Anthony Towns. I have also been a defender of the fact that you gotta separate. Like, the way that the people talk about him off the court was really not cool. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like conflating those two things. Right? Like, he's kind of, like, played soft sometimes on the court, and then people started talking about him off the court, like, all this other stuff, and it just was not ever really cool. So I'm glad. And because Carl Anthony Towns off is like, one of the great humanitarians in the NBA who's been through so much.
Matt Myron
And if you say, what NBA, what movie was an NBA champion in? You probably wouldn't have guessed Devil Wears Prada, too. But for Carl Towns, that was.
David Dennis
That's the movie.
Matt Myron
That's the movie. He made an appearance. And I want to just. That we do this every once a couple weeks. I just like to sort of check into baseball because the season is, I believe, 83 weeks long, and it still goes.
David Dennis
Me and Becky Hammond, by the way, never apologizing ever. I got. We're doing this together.
Matt Myron
I feel like Becky Hammond needed to apologize. I mean, she specifically said Jalen Brunson can't win a title. Like, she should have probably ignited. That was incorrect.
David Dennis
Yeah, I just. I think that just saying my bad, I was wrong is fine. You got to apologize for it, though.
Matt Myron
Okay, fair enough.
David Dennis
That's a bridge too far.
Matt Myron
All right, so let's talk about a couple things in Major League Baseball. First of all, do you. Jacob Mizorowski throws this through a pitch 105.5 miles per hour. I have a friend who was a college pitcher who told me yesterday. I don't believe it. He was like, there's no way a person that looks like him could just throw it three or four miles an hour faster than anyone else. It's just not happening. Do you believe Mizorowski can throw the speeds that the elite media is trying to tell us they do?
David Dennis
Yeah, why not? I mean, they're using a little. They're using, like, technology to do this. You can't do the thing. We're leaning into AI technology in baseball and not believe that the guy threw 105 miles per hour. Like, what do you like?
Matt Myron
But to be fair, the second fastest Thor is Hunter Green, who kind of maxes out at like 101, 102.
David Dennis
Yeah.
Matt Myron
I mean, it is kind of crazy that he would throw three and a half miles an hour faster than anyone else.
David Dennis
Well, but look at what the guy's doing. He's like, he's throwing out of his mind. Throwing like the nastiest stuff. What is ERA is like a negative five or something, you know, like this dude is playing out of his mind. Like, he.
Matt Myron
Weird.
David Dennis
Why would you not believe that eventually people could just do these otherworldly things? Like, do we feel like this is, I don't know, like, like big speed gun that is like behind this big speed gun.
Brandon Iuk
Right?
David Dennis
Like, what do we, what do we think that the, the, the impetus is for them lying about him throwing?
Emmett Sheehan
We had, we had Buster only on with Hammer and Emmett yesterday, and he was saying that, like, he's Ms. Yourowski. He's like lanky and he has very long arms. And so when he throws with his wind up and everything, he's like throwing the ball so much closer. Like his release part point is so much closer to the.
Matt Myron
Well, that's what they used to say about Randy Johnson.
Emmett Sheehan
Yeah, I think it's kind of the same thing.
Matt Myron
Yeah, you think it's the same. Same premise. Okay, well, I'm not going to argue with Buster. Only I will say for you baseball aficionados, especially pitching aficionado aficionados, next Thursday, Jacob Mizaroski is pitching against Chase Burns. And you could make an argument those are the two best young pitchers in baseball and they haven't ever pitched against each other. Both of them throw like a bajillion miles an hour. That is a game. It's a Thursday afternoon. David, that I actually think is one you might want to tune into if you're just a casual baseball Fan.
David Dennis
There's nothing like a good pitcher matchup. Like we just don't get, you know,
Matt Myron
like you don't get them.
David Dennis
Yeah, we don't get them a lot. And to have like, great. We usually don't get them till the playoffs really. But to have them in the regular season, it's must see.
Matt Myron
And there's something about young guys because like, yeah, those two guys are both very young. At some point their velocity will go down.
Brandon Iuk
Right.
Matt Myron
Like it's just going to happen to see them at the feet. It's like I was watching live when Kerry Wood had 20 strikeouts.
Brandon Iuk
Yeah, yeah.
Matt Myron
And he never reached that peak again. But, but I remember that was one of the most exciting baseball games I ever watched. Just to see that happen. I'm not saying that's going to happen next Thursday, but you rarely, you get to see two dudes just, just heaving it like they will.
David Dennis
Yeah, like it's going to be, it's going to be great to see hitters don't have a shot. I mean, because also not, not only the, the speed will go down. Like you worry about injuries. It's unfortunate. Every time you watch baseball, you watch pitchers to throw at this velocity, you worried about the injuries and how long this. You feel like they're, they're on like a career pitch clock. And you know, right now nothing's happened to him yet.
Matt Myron
All right, I got a response. This is from the person who asked that you apologize. I really like David. I think his dad is a hero and I have mad respect for him. With that said, he was like Stephen A. Smith hating on LeBron when it comes to Carl Towns. Nice to see him acknowledge his mistake.
David Dennis
Yeah, there you go. I think, I think we've come, I think we've come to a ground here.
Matt Myron
Okay, good. Steve, you and Stephen A. Smith now maybe Stephen A. Will do it with LeBron and we can all be. And everybody tune in for baseball action later today as the Red Sox hosts the Yankees. Coverage begins at 6:30 Eastern on ESPN radio. And the ESPN app with the NBA draft was this past week. We'll talk about some of the fits and who got a steal and maybe actually didn't think anybody made a point. Bad pick, which is rare. That's all next here on Matt and Myron on espn. Matt and Myron, the podcast.
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David Dennis
There's this thing about like nostalgic, these groups that everybody just kind of hates like Nickelback, Lincoln Park, Dave Matthews Band. There's just like a back.
Matt Myron
I don't understand why people pick like Nickelback is like the one that people act like is the worst thing that's ever existed. And I don't know why.
David Dennis
I mean it's, it's Creed when Creed is there.
Matt Myron
Yeah. You think Creed should get the smoke.
David Dennis
I think Creature get a little bit of. A little bit of smoke.
Emmett Sheehan
I think a big thing is there. They kind of sometimes sound copy and paste as far as how they write their songs. And I think that upsets people.
Matt Myron
You think that upsets.
Emmett Sheehan
And also like I like Nickelback I've listened to him.
Matt Myron
That doesn't surprise me.
Emmett Sheehan
But like, their. Their first album compared to what they put out after is a little bit different.
Matt Myron
And people get mad. Most people don't even have one good album if they get. If they get any good albums. Now let me ask you this, David.
David Dennis
I. Yeah, we have an event going through the Nickelback discography.
Matt Myron
We have an event here. We have an event in Kentucky called Bourbon and Beyond. It's become a very huge concert series. And I'm going to read you the list of. These are the headliners. Which of these would David Dennis want to hear?
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
This is all in Louisville September 26th for four days. Foo Fighters, yes or no? Yeah.
David Dennis
Yeah, I'll go to a Foo Fighter show.
Matt Myron
Mumford and Sons.
David Dennis
Absolutely not.
Matt Myron
No banjo. No banjo for you. Okay. Chris Stapleton?
David Dennis
No.
Matt Myron
Dave Matthews Band?
David Dennis
Sure. Maybe. Maybe, like just for nostalgia. I'm familiar.
Matt Myron
Queens of the Stone Age.
David Dennis
No.
Matt Myron
Casey Musgraves?
David Dennis
No.
Matt Myron
Red Clay Strays.
David Dennis
I just know Casey Musgrave. She was the one pretended to be excited when she won a Grammy that one time, right?
Matt Myron
Yeah, but she's got Follow your arrow. I bet would be a song you'd like. Hootie and the Blowfish.
Brandon Iuk
No.
Matt Myron
You wouldn't want to go see Hootie?
David Dennis
No.
Matt Myron
You don't like that?
David Dennis
No. That sounded. No.
Emmett Sheehan
Dolphins make him cry, man.
Matt Myron
The dolphins make him cry.
David Dennis
Okay. Yeah. Counting Crows, Ears Bleed. No.
Matt Myron
So this concert series doesn't seem like it appeals for non blondes. What's going on? Well, that's.
David Dennis
That's the. That's not the group I was thinking of. But sure, yeah. Non blonde.
Matt Myron
Okay. Well, it doesn't look like Bourbon Beyond. Maybe.
David Dennis
Could I walk around freely at Bourbon and Beyond?
Matt Myron
Of course you could. We are very welcoming in Louisville. You've been to Louisville? Many.
David Dennis
I've never been to Louisville. I need to go to Louisville.
Matt Myron
I've never been to Louisville.
David Dennis
I gotta come to the crib.
Matt Myron
What was the biggest in America without a professional sports team? Did you know?
David Dennis
Yeah. Yeah. I gotta come check it out because they got. Louisville is the. All the Muhammad Ali stuff.
Matt Myron
See, that's what I was going to say for you. Let me get real quickly sell you on Louisville. Muhammad Ali Museum is amazing.
David Dennis
Yeah.
Matt Myron
Like, it really is. They did a great job with it. It's beautiful. It's right on the river. You want to do that. That's where all the Louisville Slugger Bats are made.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
When you want to go watch the place where they make all the bats. Isn't that interesting? Kentucky Derby. Can I interest you in the Kentucky Derby, David?
David Dennis
I can go. Can I be your plus one for the derby?
Matt Myron
Promise you you'll be good. I know Myron makes. Always says the same thing. Yes, you could be the plus one. We'll get you tickets for it.
David Dennis
So you're just gonna sound like you're just gonna give me tickets. I have to buy. That's what it sounds like.
Matt Myron
No, no, no, no. I would, I would, I would take care of them for you. Bourbon. All the bourbon distilleries are in, in Louisville to Lexington. Do you like bourbon?
David Dennis
I do like bourbon. Like a good bourbon. Yeah.
Matt Myron
So it sounds like you need.
David Dennis
I need to make. It's like a six hour drive from Atlanta, something like that. It's not bad.
Matt Myron
It's exactly six hours. You're exactly right.
David Dennis
It's six hours. I thought about it. I wanted to go. I need to make a trip. Long weekend.
Matt Myron
You know, we, we were hurt because about 10 years ago the Grizzlies, Memphis Grizzlies almost moved to Louisville.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
Which could have been Louisville Grizzlies and would have been a whole new thing. But that didn't, that didn't happen. All right, so the draft. Grizzlies got Cameron Boozer making a little transition. Darren Peterson.
David Dennis
That's good radio. Yeah.
Matt Myron
Yes. Darren Peterson to the Jazz. By the way, am I wrong in saying the Jazz might be good next year? Like, like a chance to.
David Dennis
Jazz got an outside shot there. I think they got an outside shot of a play in. I think they could be a play in team for sure.
Matt Myron
I mean, we've, we've forgotten them for so long.
David Dennis
They can actually be good. They've been playing their good players. They've been trying to lose for so long. They got Laurie marketing. They got Jaren Jackson now. Now you have Darren Peterson.
Matt Myron
Darren Peterson is going to enjoy being in Salt Lake. It feels like an odd match up there.
David Dennis
NBA youngboy lives out there. NBA youngboy is out in Salt Lake City. He's out of Utah, you know. Are you. Who is that NBA youngboy fan? How much NBA youngboy you listen to?
Matt Myron
I mean, I've heard of him. Does NBA ever want to sue him for copyright? For having NBA in his name?
David Dennis
I would probably. I don't know. I would probably not because it just never broke again is what it stands for. So I think it's different. Different.
Matt Myron
Well, that's what I would say too, if I was going to be sued for copyright. No.
David Dennis
Maybe Darren Peterson, NBA young boy. They Go to shows and go hang out together, stuff like that. That's stuff to do.
Matt Myron
Caleb Wilson goes to the bul and then after that you got the Clippers take Keaton Wagler, the Nets, Mikhail Brown, the Kings, Darius Acuff. Any of those guys after the top four that you specifically think could be like a steal for the draft.
David Dennis
Acuff, I think Acuff. I think a cuff is a guy that can. There's going to be a 40.8 cuff game this season where everybody's like, what in the world are we witnessing?
Matt Myron
Who's that guy?
David Dennis
Yeah, like. Like he is going to. Especially teams play the Kings and they may not be playing their starters for whatever reason, but like there's going to be a game where he looks like it or maybe a week where he looks like an unstoppable score. Akov just knows how to get to the basket. I think Lindenberg at 11 with the Warriors, I think he's going to.
Matt Myron
That's an interesting fit, by the way. I mean, you know that's the closest you're going to get to a veteran in the draft. Yaxel is probably it. What do you think about. So Dusty May gets hired by the about Dallas Mavericks and when it comes time for his pick at number nine, three of the top four guys left on the board are all his former players. Yeah, right. So you got Mara Yaxel and Morris Johnson. How do you think Yaxel and Mara like the fact that their coach essentially said, I love all of you but I love him a little bit more. What do you think? Do you think that you think he was able to handle that?
David Dennis
Well, I think you can. I think can swing it for a couple of reasons. One, I do think that he was the better fit for Dallas than the other two, like, I don't think Dallas has need for like a 73 center and yaxel, I'm not sure if he's quite the fit for Dallas and I think they both. I mean, you think those guys are going to be complaining about the fact they're in OKC and Golden State?
Emmett Sheehan
Like.
David Dennis
Like there's.
Matt Myron
That's true. That's. They got in good situations.
David Dennis
Yeah, they're in good situations. Mars going to be playing for possibly a championship. He's going to be guarding.
Matt Myron
When I watch Thunder spurs in the Western Conference finals next year, am I going to see Mar on the floor? Do you think he's good enough to play in those games?
David Dennis
Does he have six files at his disposal?
Matt Myron
He does.
David Dennis
He'll be playing do you think he
Matt Myron
was picked kind of as a Wimby? I mean, he's not a great defender, but he's. But how many people are going to be available in the draft that are as long as Wimby? He's almost as long. Do you think there's a chance that's partially why they got him?
David Dennis
I think so. I think if Chet had been better in the playoffs, they would have looked somewhere else. But you wanted size. You wanted a guy, you know, at the worst he could just put a body on Wimby and cause some trouble. And this is going to be, they're going to be having to contend with me for the next five to seven years. Like okc. He, I, I would tell you this, he's not going to be only big who's rolling through OKC trying to stop this guy. They're going to be that's exactly trying everything they can.
Matt Myron
I will say the biggest feast or famine player in the draft, the one who could be a star or out of the league in five years, is at number six with Mikhail Brown to the Nets. I saw him sometimes with Louisville where he looked like the best player in the country. And then there would be times where it looked like you got to take him off the court if you're going to win. And so that dude, and I hate that he's in Brooklyn because it feels like that's about the worst place he could be. But there is a world where that guy ends up one of the top three players in the draft. He is as much of a boom or bust as you will ever see in the NBA draft. I think Mikhail Brown is that Brandon Iuk has had a very unhappy few days. We'll talk about that and more next. I'm Matt Myron. Matt and Myron the Pod.
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Here on ESPN radio. This was SportsCenter is a new interview podcast from Rich Eisen featuring SportsCenter legends. It's available on Disney plus, the Rich Eisen Show, YouTube channel and all podcast platforms. I got to watch the taping at the super bowl of the Rich Eisen and Chris Berman and it was really fascinating. And you can hear all of them. It's this was Sports center presented by Gusto. By the way, I apologize to Gusto. For three months I've been saying gusto and no one corrected me. And then I got a message that said, matt, you need to say Gusto. So I'm very.
Emmett Sheehan
We tried to tell you that it was.
Matt Myron
You did not try. I did not have like a. I didn't have a personal view. I have to say Gusto. I just didn't know.
David Dennis
I will, I will say. I will say done a lot of these shows, different hosts. You're the only person who said Gusto.
Matt Myron
You so gu. You wouldn't think Gus is Gusto. No, that's because y' all don't speak Spanish. Because if it was Spanish, it would be Gusto.
David Dennis
Yeah, well, I mean the rest of it is in English, so
Matt Myron
fair enough. That's a good point. We've had a couple athletes that haven't had the best weak PR perspective. Let's start with Brandon Iuk, who is going on Instagram and posting videos all the time. I could play a lot of the clips. Let's do this one. He was asked about going back to the 49ers at some point and this is what he had to say the
Brandon Iuk
story is, I don't with them and I never will. But I forgive you, Femi. I. You feel me? I'm trying to get better. I'm trying to grow, I'm trying to heal. So I ain't gonna hold it against. But we is not cool. We won't be cool. And I will never be stepping in that building. Except for on October 19th when I come through with that belt.
Matt Myron
The word to beep ratio was very strong on that one. And then he was asked about John lynch, the GM of the 49ers, showing up at his house.
Brandon Iuk
General manager gonna pull up to my house. A weirdo like, bro, don't pull up to my house uninvited. Boy ain't safe. But I knew his ass was gonna do it. So I'm looking at my camera, my front door camera, see a big old white boy, white man, former NFL safety. And I'm like, oh, hell no. And I know my wife is about to be back home soon, so I had to call my wife and say, it's a big ass white man at the house. I don't know what he doing over there. He was not invited.
Matt Myron
Creepy.
Brandon Iuk
So if you on your way home, just probably just spin the block a few times. Cause I don't know what bro on.
Matt Myron
What do you make of that, David? Those comments and IUks in general, it's protocol.
David Dennis
Gotta call, somebody's on the way home. You gotta say, hey, there's a white guy at the house. You gotta let them know before they pull up. You know what I mean?
Matt Myron
You gotta warn them.
David Dennis
There's a warning front door, right. Don't want to be surprised. Like, if you met, you come to the door. But like call my wife. Be like, hey, Matt.
Matt Myron
So if I came into your door, you would call your wife and say, who's this creepy white guy?
David Dennis
I would just be like, don't be alarmed. There's a white guy at the door. It's Matt. It's just Matt. It's just Matt. It's a friend of mine. You just can't, you can't just roll up. If I came to my house, there's a white guy at the door, I would just keep driving, pretend it's not my house till he left. Like you just never know.
Matt Myron
Is that what you would do? Yeah, just drive it. Just keep going. Just wait for the white guy to go home. Okay.
David Dennis
Just wait.
Emmett Sheehan
Yeah.
David Dennis
So you got it. So I understand where I you comes from there. That's important protocol there. Also another very important detail Here. He's from. He's from Cali, as you can hear in the accent. Weirdo. That's a big deal. That's a big deal.
Matt Myron
Oh, is. You don't like him being weird?
David Dennis
You're a weirdo. That's like, we don't. You know, that's some. That's some real stuff.
Matt Myron
I didn't know that.
Brandon Iuk
All right.
Emmett Sheehan
Yeah.
Matt Myron
What? So clearly things went wrong between John Lynch.
David Dennis
They ain't go right, Brandon, iu.
Matt Myron
If you were a commander's fan, you know, management, how do you deal with all this? I mean, 49ers doesn't really matter. He's not playing there anymore. But how would you deal with it if you had to deal with Brandon? I. You now?
David Dennis
Yeah, if I'm the commanders, this is something that's like.
Matt Myron
This is a.
David Dennis
This is a lot. A little bit. This is a little much, right? Like this little much. This guy doing all this YouTube and stuff, trying to get there, try to play with. Play for you. And of course, the commanders can't say anything publicly about we want this guy to be our guy. But at the same time, like this, I want to call it all the way erratic, but I would just be
Matt Myron
like, it's pretty erratic. It is a little erratic.
David Dennis
I would just say, like, turn the YouTube off and just wait this out so you can come play with us. Like, this is a little much.
Matt Myron
Yeah, it is. I mean, I. You know, I think the issue is, is this just a dude who's mad and who's venting, or is it something greater than that that will affect his future? And, you know, I don't know that we can. I don't know that you and I would know the answer to that question, but. You do.
David Dennis
But how often does. How often do we see just anecdotally these guys who go on these rants, go do these videos going, and then they go to the next team and it's like, ah, they're great. You know, like, this is. This is. All of this stuff was just them, you know, like, we just don't see it. Like, usually this stuff portends something kind of like.
Matt Myron
Oh, yes, we saw.
David Dennis
We saw something.
Matt Myron
The receiver, like, Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown, Yes. That's kind of. I'm not saying that he's him, but that.
Brandon Iuk
Right.
Matt Myron
There were some warning signs before he walked off the field that time, right?
David Dennis
Yeah. Like, there are some things that are just like, all right, you're doing a little much, and it usually means that they're gonna do it at the next place. Too.
Matt Myron
Yeah. Now, another athlete who's had not a great week. Phil Mickelson story by Alan Chipnick. I have to tell you there. There are very few stories that make me go whoa. And the Phil Mickelson story this week made me go whoa. Basically, it detailed kind of the fall of Phil Mickelson, specifically his being kicked out of three different golf clubs with a wave of sexual misconduct allegations. And he has withdrawn from all major golf tournaments in 2026. The LIV Golf has said that he's in a private family health matter, which the story does say that his child is having a health issue, and that's part of it. But it detailed the fact that over the last five years, six years, he has been kicked out of three private golf clubs. If you read the story for various levels of. From being creepy to maybe things more serious. And in the story, it included the allegation that former or that golfer Pat Perez, that he tried to proposition his wife Ashley, including, and this was the part I could not believe, showing her a picture of him completely naked, flexing one arm as. And saying, come to my room later tonight, David. You gotta be doing a lot of stuff to be kicked out of not one, not two, but three private golf clubs. What do you make of the Phil Mickelson news?
David Dennis
You can't just read the news of that. And then it tossed to me after that weird stuff.
Matt Myron
You can't.
David Dennis
No, I'm not saying.
Matt Myron
I'm not saying you. I'm not saying there's a debate as to whether it's good or bad. It's clearly bad.
David Dennis
Just read all the details. Like, Dave, what do you think of that? Very disturbing details of Phil Mickelson flexing.
Matt Myron
The flexing is the part like he's. First of all, who takes that picture where you're just standing there naked flexing? Do you ask someone, David? I mean, I. I don't know who took. Took that picture.
David Dennis
I don't know, but I do. I. I don't. I don't know. I will say I don't know, but I will venture to guess that generally when you do that, you don't just show it to one person. Like, I would think that's probably. This is not it. This is not a situation where this is one person. And then we're just gonna keep it moving and pretend like everything's fine. Like these are serious things. Phil Mickelson's professional and personal life are kind of falling apart as a result of his actions. When it comes. Not the health stuff aside, like when it Comes to this, like, this is tarnishing the things. And also this is only going to bring about more people digging and more. And like this, we're looking at a. A true downfall and like, way to re. Discuss his career if this is, you know, these things are proven true.
Matt Myron
What's amazing to me is Phil Mickelson could have been like the Arnold Palmer of golf.
David Dennis
Yeah.
Matt Myron
Like, he could have been the guy that sits in the booth with gymnasts and does the Masters. Right. He could have been. That was him. I mean, Tiger in some ways was Nicholas, but he could have been Palmer, like the beloved one that, you know, and. And he has completely ruined it. I mean, the gambling allegations. There were allegations in the story that he may have bet up to a billion dollars over his lifetime on. I mean.
David Dennis
Yeah, David, a billion. I don't even know how that's possible.
Matt Myron
I don't even know how that's possible either. A billion dollars, That's a crazy amount to me. And to watch that downfall. And it also reminds me, and I'm not trying to pick on Jim Nance, but I may be picking on Jim Dance a long time. But maybe when Tiger had all of his stuff.
David Dennis
Yeah.
Matt Myron
You may remember Phil Mickelson won the Masters like, right after it. And when he made the putt, Jim Nance said, it's a win for the family. And I remember going, oh, don't say that. Not because I knew anything, but because, David, we never really know.
David Dennis
Right, Right.
Matt Myron
You know what I mean? We never really know. And there was a part of me going, don't act like we know what's happening. And now 10 years later, it looks even more kind of, I think all of golf.
David Dennis
I still. I just will never kind of get over the way they acted with Tiger and that situation. 2009, like, the initial.
Matt Myron
The divorce, some of that, though.
David Dennis
But like, when do you see in sports athletes doing press conferences about a guy and his marriage and cheating and all that stuff? Like, you just don't see that. And then. And you know, like, it was. Because so often. I mean, look at. Look at sports now. Like, people just don't even comment on abusers like that.
Brandon Iuk
Right.
Matt Myron
Yeah.
David Dennis
And so there was David.
Matt Myron
I mean, they asked Variable about it on his thing last about.
David Dennis
Well, no, they asked. Right. But. But that's bravel. I'm talking about you. I'm talking about you. You. Not. You're not going to ask.
Matt Myron
I don't.
David Dennis
Andy Reid about Mike Vrabel. Right.
Matt Myron
Oh, I see what you're saying.
David Dennis
It's like the way that everybody else in golf felt like they had to say something about Tiger and Phil became this like, beacon of anti Tigerness because of his family thing. As you said, it was always weird. It was always a weird thing. And now you got to deal with the fact that everybody looks silly because they were making these comments 15 years ago about, you know, I, at the
Matt Myron
time was like, I'm not saying at the time. I mean, I didn't know what Phil was doing, but at the time I was like, you don't know. You know, you can't. You don't know. Just talk about the golf like you don't know if he's a. You don't know. This ends up happening. I cannot think of an athlete. Well, I'm sure there are some, but I cannot think of an athlete, maybe O.J. simpson, who could have had a career post golf that was more celebrated than Phil Mickelson, who has completely disintegrated it like he did. Yeah, I mean, can you, can you think of one?
David Dennis
Yeah, yeah, that's a Good. That's a OJ.
Matt Myron
OJ's is the worst situation. But, you know, I mean, he was beloved like that too. You just don't see that happen.
David Dennis
I would say also, I would, I would throw Brett Favre in there also.
Matt Myron
Ooh, that's an, that's actually a good one. Yeah, but, but I always kind of thought Brett Favre might be a jerk.
David Dennis
Well, yes, but I mean, Brett Favre had, let's say, Let me rephrase. If Brett Favre had retired right after Green Bay.
Matt Myron
Yes. That would have been winded. That would have been, I would say, Phil, remember he won the PGA in 2021. That was five years ago.
Emmett Sheehan
Yeah.
Matt Myron
And it seems like a lifetime ago. 888 say SPM Matt Meyer said by Progressive Insurance. When we come back. You know, we can't let you go into this weekend and not have the picks of games. Matt and Myron the pod.
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Matt Myron
It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. I actually do like this song. Finally, you played a good one. There's a honky tonk near the county line. You like Brooks and Dunn? Sure.
David Dennis
Yeah.
Matt Myron
I sat next to them once at a wedding.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
And it's hard because when there's someone like that, like, I don't know anything about their lives, I just know their music.
David Dennis
Yeah.
Matt Myron
So you're trying to make conversation and you got. I mean, what are you gonna say? Like, I love Neon Moon. You know, like you. It's hard to have a normal conversation with a person that all you know them for.
David Dennis
Well, were you standing. Were you sitting by Brooks and Done, or was it Brooks?
Matt Myron
Well, actually, I didn't want you to ask because I was sitting by one of them, but I don't know which one it was.
David Dennis
Okay.
Matt Myron
That's another thing. I couldn't be like, are you Brooks or are you done? Because I still, 25 years later, don't know which one's which.
David Dennis
I think it's fine. You could have just been like, hey, which one? You know, they'll be fine.
Matt Myron
But he's saying at the wedding, he sang it the way he sang. You won't know this song, but, Rachel, you might know he sang Neon Moon at the wedding, which was kind of awesome. Although it is a song about a drunk at a bar in front of a neon sign, which is a weird thing to play at a wedding, but he did sing it at a wedding.
David Dennis
Well, if you got Brooks and. Or Done, you just. You let them sing whatever they want.
Matt Myron
That's true. But they didn't go together. Sometimes I think they go solo if. With Brooks and done.
David Dennis
All right.
Matt Myron
It is now time on a Sunday to pick all the games that are important going on in the world. It's take your pick.
David Dennis
Take your pick.
Matt Myron
You take your pick. It's time to take your pick with Matt and Myron. All right, let's get started. What's up first?
Emmett Sheehan
So let's do World cup first. South Africa against Canada. Today. Canada is minus 145 on DraftKings. Who you got here?
Matt Myron
Well, the game ended up not being in Canada, David, because Canada lost. So I think they're playing in la. I'm gonna actually think Canada is much better than Bafana. Bafana. And since they can't end in a tie, minus 145. Not a terrible odds. I'm gonna go ahead and take Canada and I might even actually place a wager on that.
David Dennis
I'm going Canada also a little bit better than South Africa here. And home continent advantage, I think.
Matt Myron
Home continent advantage. Well, yeah, it's not too far of a fly.
David Dennis
I know my geography. There you go.
Matt Myron
I would hope that you would know that Canada was closer than South Africa. By the way, I meant to say this before we started. One person wrote, I think Matt Myron could be changed to Matt or Myron. How much vacation does Myron take? I feel like he's off 25 of the 50 weeks. Oh, I mean, that's kind of true.
David Dennis
Vacation shaming Myron.
Matt Myron
No, I want him to take all the vacation. I would just note he hasn't been
David Dennis
so would it be. So I guess you're saying that you're like the. You're the Jaylen Brown of the group. Is that you're. You're holding things down while he's off. But yet still.
Matt Myron
And I want to be traded.
David Dennis
Yes. Still. People put you on the trading block all the time.
Matt Myron
Send me to game night with Zaz or whoever hosts that evening. All right, what's next?
Emmett Sheehan
Well, let's think of the World cup group of 32. The United States game is Wednesday. They play Bosnia. United States a Pretty big favorite. Minus 270 on DraftKings. Who you got here, Matt?
Matt Myron
I'm going to take the United States. It's Bosnia and Herzegovina I have to take up for Herzegovina. Everybody leaves them out, but I'm going to take the United States. I feel like they're playing well. Be a big crowd advantage. I think they're playing in San Francisco and then the next round against Belgium or Senegal. Now, that will be a tougher game, but I do think they end up beating Bosnia. David.
David Dennis
Yes. I think USA has a. Has a good advantage here. And I'm with you. I'll be riding with Team USA until they play Senegal for, you know.
Matt Myron
Oh, you might go for. Well, not Mike.
David Dennis
No. Might.
Matt Myron
I don't want to dive into that. We've got. It's Freedom250 here. David.
David Dennis
I took world history in college.
Matt Myron
What's up next?
Emmett Sheehan
Let's go to Major League Baseball. Matt, Your Reds against my Pirates. My Pirates have blown a couple of leads here over the past couple of nights. Brady Singer on the mountain for the Reds. Mitch Keller on the mountain for the Pirates. Pirates. Slight favorite here. Minus one.
Matt Myron
Keller still pitches. I hadn't. He's still going. What is he, like 61?
Emmett Sheehan
No, no, he's pretty young. He's not even 30 yet. You must be thinking of a different color.
Matt Myron
Yeah, I don't know which one that would be.
Emmett Sheehan
I don't know.
Matt Myron
Last night, a who Haney O. Suarez hit a home run at the last pitch to win the game. Little fact about. Hey, no Suarez. David, you're. You're somebody. You're a very smart person. Seven letters in his name, five syllables. I know no other person with a better letter to syllable ratio. Eh, Who? He?
Brandon Iuk
Ne.
Matt Myron
O. Can you think of anyone? I challenge the listeners to think of anyone in life with more syllables and fewer letters. I'm going to take the Pirates to win today. Go ahead, David.
David Dennis
I'm going to take. For just for that reason alone, I'm going to take. He's with the Reds.
Matt Myron
That's exactly right. By the way, for the week, sit in your car, sit in your house and try to think of anyone in any word that has that syllable to letter ratio.
David Dennis
I got you.
Matt Myron
You'll be able to find it.
David Dennis
That's a toughie. I'm going red just because.
Matt Myron
What's next?
Emmett Sheehan
See with Major League Baseball. Dodgers at Padres. Emmett Sheehan on the mound for the Dodgers. Michael King on the mound for the Padres. Dodgers. Slight favorite here on DraftKings. Matt, who you got?
Matt Myron
I'm going to assume the Dodgers. I just assume they win every game, so. David, I'll take them.
David Dennis
Yeah, I'm going with the Dodgers. I don't imagine a world in which people bet against the Dodgers for any reason whatsoever. So we're going Dodgers.
Matt Myron
Yes. What's next?
Emmett Sheehan
ESPN Radio tonight, 6:30pm Eastern. Yankees at Red Sox. Carlos Rodon on the mound for the Yankees. Sonny Gray on the mound for the Red Sox, who are a slight favorite on DraftKings. Matt, who you got here?
Matt Myron
Another person I didn't rise was still in the league. Sonny Gray is still pitching as well. This is the 47th meeting between these two teams this season. Already I will assume they're basically even. Give me the Yankees to win.
David Dennis
I'm going to go Yankees. Also, Aaron Judge, three syllables in his name.
Matt Myron
Everyone Judge. That's two words, though.
David Dennis
Two words, three syllables. Two opposite.
Matt Myron
That's interesting. Two names, three syllables.
Brandon Iuk
Yeah.
Emmett Sheehan
Wow.
Matt Myron
All right, what's next?
David Dennis
I'm sure there's some two name, two syllables people.
Emmett Sheehan
Ty Law Remember Ty Law. Two names, two syllables. How about that? Wnba, the Minnesota Links and the Wings. Links are three and a half point favorite today. Who you got here?
Matt Myron
Matt David. I defer to you on the first pick on this. I'll go with where you go.
David Dennis
I'm going Links here. They look great. Libby Miles, Rookie of the Year. May even be Rookie of the Year MVP together. Wings are looking good, but I like the links.
Matt Myron
All right, what's next?
Emmett Sheehan
Liberty at Valkyries. Valkyries, one and a half point favorites. That's on ESPN. Disney Plus, 7:00pm Eastern today. David, who you got here?
David Dennis
I'm going to go Valkyries. It's going to be a good game. Liberty been blowing some leads this season. I think the Valkyries just a tough team.
Matt Myron
It's Freedom 250. America is on my mind so give me the liberty. I believe in it.
Emmett Sheehan
Traveling Championship final round Victor hovland, minus is 20 under. Scotty Scheffler right behind him, 19 under. A couple tied at minus 15, several at minus 13, including U.S. open champion Wyndham Clark.
Matt Myron
I'm going to take Scotty Scheffler. How are you going to bet against the best golfer in the world? Do you want Scotty or Victor David?
David Dennis
I was going to go Scheffler also. Shufflers where it's at.
Matt Myron
Yeah, we'll take it. David, I've enjoyed it. Thank you very much for coming in today on a Sunday. And we'll do it again.
Brandon Iuk
Yes, sir.
David Dennis
Absolutely.
Matt Myron
Game day is next.
David Dennis
Vacation.
Matt Myron
Probably a Zaslo or a Zeno or another Z man coming up. This is Matt. My thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10:00am Eastern on
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Episode: Hour 3: All About the Ratios
Date: June 28, 2026
Hosts: Matt Myron (Matt Jones & Myron Medcalf; Myron off this week)
Guests/Regulars: David Dennis, Brandon Iuk, Emmett Sheehan
Hour 3 of “Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron” offers a quintessential blend of sports talk, culture, banter, and humor. With Myron Medcalf out, Matt Jones hosts alongside David Dennis, covering hot topics from NBA postseason aftermath and player reputations to baseball’s pitching phenoms, quirky trivia, music festival lineups, and a rapid-fire round of “Take Your Pick” for the day’s games. The episode’s tone is lively, irreverent, playful, and occasionally introspective, never shying from cultural context or sharp opinions.
[01:04–06:06]
“Both my criticism was valid because at the time he was not doing the things … He does the things. They win a championship. I’m just saying.” —David Dennis [02:50]
“And he takes the shot glass and he has a shot of air, is what he said. I’ll take a shot of air with my teammates.” —Matt [05:07]
[05:31–06:06]
“You gotta separate… people talk about him off the court was really not cool. … One of the great humanitarians in the NBA who’s been through so much.” —David Dennis [05:31]
[06:47–10:04]
[12:22–15:31]
[15:37–16:59]
[17:00–21:59]
[24:59–29:36]
“The story is, I don’t with them and I never will. But I forgive you… we is not cool. We won’t be cool. And I will never be stepping in that building. Except for on October 19th when I come through with that belt.” —Brandon Aiyuk [25:24]
“…there’s a big ass white man at the house. I don’t know what he doing over there…” [25:54]
[29:36–36:03]
“You gotta be doing a lot of stuff to be kicked out of not one, not two, but three private golf clubs.” —Matt [31:11]
“Phil Mickelson could have been like the Arnold Palmer of golf… and he’s completely ruined it.” —Matt [32:36]
[38:49–44:39]
This episode encapsulates the easygoing, culture-savvy, and personality-driven style that defines “Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron.” From earnest debates about player growth to joking about “banjo bans,” from rapid sports picks to dissecting public meltdowns, no sports or pop culture topic is off-limits. The humor, candor, and warmth make the episode both fun for regular listeners and accessible for first-timers who want an engaging snapshot of the week in sports and beyond.