Hour 3: Dropping Beats

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

ESPN Radio – Hour 3: Dropping Beats

Hosts: Myron Medcalf and Matt Jones
Date: February 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this energetic and often humorous final hour, Matt and Myron bounce around the sports world. They debate the feasibility and relevance of the biathlon, offer candid takes on NBA All Star Game intensity and player loyalty, discuss the evolving landscape of college basketball coaching, and riff on viral sports moments and pop culture. The show is sprinkled with memorable quotes, on-air banter, and pop culture asides.

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Key Topics & Highlights

1. Winter Olympics: The Biathlon & Its Relevance

[00:35–04:22]

• Biathlon Ability: Matt quizzes Myron about which biathlon skill he could handle: the skiing or the shooting.
  • Myron (01:00): “With proper training? Both, but I think I'm probably more likely to make the shots... The gun does a lot of the work with today's technology... skiing is probably the harder part.”
  • Laughter ensues at Myron underestimating the shooting challenge, as producers joke about being careful with biathlete names on air.
• Relevance in Modern Times:
  • Matt posits the biathlon is "maybe the most practical" Olympic sport, rooted in Nordic hunting history.
  • Quote (03:13): “Whereas, like, snowboarding down a half pipe is not practical. But this [biathlon] is, I would argue, maybe the most practical of all of the sports.”

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2. NBA All Star Game – Intensity Then and Now

[04:22–10:24]

• New Game Format Commentary:
  • Jokes about the new All Star format: Team Stars, Team Stripes, and Team World.
  • Matt quips, “This is how most Americans look at the planet... there's the world. We're Stars, we're Stripes, and there's the world.” [03:52]
• Kevin Durant on ‘Old School’ All Star Games ([04:48]):

  Durant: “I wanted to see what the big deal was ... if it was really that much intensity, like Game seven, like y'all said it was back then—and it wasn’t.”

• Hosts’ Reaction & Generational Debate:
  • Matt and Myron discuss nostalgia's effect on fan perceptions.
  • Matt (06:25): “If you go back and watch a basketball game in the 80s, they're playing in slow motion compared to now... it's not nearly as intense as a regular season game now.”
  • Myron points out All Star Games were always “about highlights for the first three quarters...” with some intensity late, but challenges notion of today’s players slacking.
  • Myron (09:42): “The advantage they had in the 80s and 90s was a general sense we thought they cared about the game overall. There was a general competition between teams that people don't feel as much across [the league].”

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3. Giannis Antetokounmpo’s Loyalty in Question

[15:33–21:25]

• Myron’s Frustration:
  • Myron vents about Giannis’s ongoing “will he, won’t he” relationship with the Bucks.
  • Myron (15:33): “Nobody wants to be in a relationship where someone tells them that they're not sure if they want to be in the relationship. And that's all Giannis is doing with all this trade buzz... now you're dragging this whole thing out.”
• Giannis’ Statement (Clip):
  • [17:43]

    “As of today, I'm committed to the Milwaukee Bucks, and I'm committed to the people that I work with, my teammates, the coaching staff... you will never hear me say I don't want to be a Milwaukee Buck.”

• Hosts’ Take:
  • Matt: finds it diplomatic, even “beautiful” in its phrasing; Myron sees it as disingenuous and emotionally manipulative.
  • Myron (19:05): “You always talk about these guys, knowing how they come off, knowing the perception. Giannis is very, very media savvy... as of today, are you kidding?”
  • Myron argues for directness, comparing Giannis unfavorably to stars like Harden and Durant who clearly state when they're unhappy.
  • Matt and Myron tie it to relationships: “If you go in tomorrow and talk to your boss and they say, as of today, you're employed, how would you feel?” [18:28]
  • Playful close: Matt sings Beyoncé’s “Irreplaceable” to capture Bucks fans’ possible reaction [21:25].

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4. Personal Anecdotes & Pop Culture

[24:07–28:39]

• Jiu Jitsu Story:
  • Myron recounts being choked out by a top woman in his Jiu Jitsu class in his twenties:

    Myron (24:24): “I couldn't breathe for about 8.5 seconds... don’t go to Jiu Jitsu classes unless you’re not worried about pain.”

• Matt on ESPN Fame:
  • Matt jokes he never gets recognized by big names at ESPN, while Myron gets DMs from legends like Buster Olney.
• Music Sampling Chain Trivia:
  • Buster clarifies: The current hit “Big Energy” (Lotto) samples Mariah Carey and Old Dirty Bastard, but the original sample is from Tom Tom Club's “Genius of Love.”
  • Hosts play and riff on each version.

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5. College Basketball Coaching in the Transfer Era

[29:39–33:57]

• Jerome Tang’s Rant ([30:05]):

  “These dudes do not deserve to wear this uniform... There will be very few of them in it next year. I’m embarrassed for the university.”

• Analysis:
  • Myron: Old-school hard-liner coaching doesn’t work now; player mobility means berating athletes leads to transfers, not motivation.
  • Matt: College coaching is the only profession left where yelling at subordinates is still accepted—calls for coaches to adapt or exit.

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6. Viral Sports Moments & Commentary

[33:57–37:31]

• Popcorn Machine Fire at Georgia/Oklahoma Game:
  • [34:15] Play-by-play features an expressive color analyst reacting ("Oh my goodness. Look at the popcorn... we've got a full-blown fire going on!")
  • Matt and Myron praise the Southern-flavored commentary, even joking about fans’ surprisingly calm reactions and a viral “Elton John” glasses moment in the crowd.

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7. Cultural Banter & Foreign Film Debate

[39:33–41:12]

• Myron, “Lover of Foreign Film & Fine Silk,” Guessing Game:
  • Matt presses Myron to name a foreign film; Myron fumbles, then, after ribbing from the team, finally names “Anatomy of a Fall” and “Parasite.”

    Matt (40:09): “Lover of foreign film. You can't think of a single one?” Myron (41:16): “I was ambitious. And I don't think there's anything wrong with you being ambitious in life...”

  • Show closes in classic banter mode.

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8. Take Your Pick: Rapid-Fire Sports Picks

[41:58–46:30]

• Olympic Skeleton:
  • Both hosts marvel at the bravery of skeleton athletes.
• College Hoops:
  • Both pick Illinois (men’s) and Kentucky (women’s) to win upcoming matchups.
• Olympic Hockey:
  • Both anticipate Team USA vs. Canada for the gold, agree USA will beat Germany but not cover the spread.
• Daytona 500:
  • Matt picks Joey Logano; Myron predicts Brad Keselowski will overcome his injury for a dramatic win.
• NBA All Star Game:
  • Matt patriotically avoids picking between “Stars” and “Stripes.” Myron is non-committal; producer James confesses love for Sidney Crosby.
  • Matt (46:07): “You cannot ask me as an American to pick between the Stars and the Stripes!”

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• [01:00] Myron: “With proper training? Both, but I think I'm probably more likely to make the shots.”
• [03:52] Matt: “I like this All Star Game is how most Americans look at the planet... we got Team Stars, and we got team Stripes, and then everybody else is over there. They're the world.”
• [04:48] Kevin Durant: “The intensity the older generation been talking about. I don't know if I seen it.”
• [09:42] Myron: “The advantage they had in the 80s and 90s was a general sense we thought they cared about the game overall.”
• [15:33] Myron: “Nobody wants to be in a relationship where someone tells them that they're not sure if they want to be in the relationship. And that's all Giannis is doing...”
• [17:43] Giannis: “As of today, I'm committed to the Milwaukee Bucks... you will never hear me say I don't want to be a Milwaukee Buck.”
• [24:24] Myron: “I couldn't breathe for about 8.5 seconds... I saw stars.”
• [30:05] Jerome Tang: “These dudes do not deserve to wear this uniform... I’m embarrassed for the university.”
• [34:19] Color analyst: “Oh my goodness... We got a full blown fire going on right now.”
• [40:09] Matt: “Lover of foreign film. You can't think of a single one?”
• [46:07] Matt: “You cannot ask me as an American to pick between the Stars and the Stripes!”

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Overall Tone and Style

The show is lively and conversational, mixing informed takes with friendly roasting. Matt’s dry wit pairs well with Myron’s self-deprecating humor, and producer James occasionally chimes in. The tone is irreverent yet knowledgeable, making even deep-dive sports analysis fun and accessible.

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Perfect For Listeners Who:

• Enjoy quick-witted sports banter
• Appreciate pop culture and music references sprinkled into sports talk
• Want both insight and entertainment from their Sunday morning sports roundup

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Next Time: Tune in live next Sunday on ESPN Radio for another round of sports, stories, and shenanigans with Matt and Myron.

Transcript

[Matt]

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[Myron]

This is Matt and Myron, the podcast Final Hour.

[Matt]

Matt, Myron here on ESPN Radio. The biathlon is going on in the Olympics. What's less likely, Myron, you could compete the skiing or hit the target on the shots. I don't know how you are with firearms. Do you think you're more likely to be able to ski the 12.5km or to make the shots?

[Myron]

I mean, with proper training? Both, but I think I'm probably more likely to make the shots.

[Matt]

Oh, so you think you could. You could fire on the bullseye now?

[Myron]

I think the gun does a lot of the work for you. You know, some of the.

[Matt]

I don't know what that means. The gun does a lot of the.

[Myron]

Work with today's technology. I'm not saying it's not. I think skiing is probably the harder part. The endurance of it all, probably the most difficult. Yeah.

[Matt]

I think if you tried to do it today, you have a better chance at the scheme than the shooting. I mean, it's a tiny little target they have to hit.

[Myron]

Yeah, I mean, I. I don't. I think that part's probably easier. Well, hold on a second. I'm just seeing the target for time.

[Matt]

For the first time. We might have some gun owners who would tell you that. The idea that you think. I mean, there's a. There's a skier right now whose last name is. Is. I got to be careful how I say this. Fak F. A K. Okay. Y and fak.

[Myron]

Fact.

[Matt]

He missed his first couple. We got.

[Producer/Assistant]

Let's be careful. Yes.

[Myron]

I thought it was the target at, like.

[Matt]

Listen, that's his.

[Myron]

I thought it was a target. I thought it was a target at, like, the state fair. I thought it was like one of those.

[Producer/Assistant]

I'm just a.

[Matt]

His name is FF AK Supposed to pronounce it.

[Myron]

We got it. I thought. I thought it was a target at, like, a carnival, you know, where you, like the big giant poolside. That's what I thought. That's what I thought it was. And it is not.

[Matt]

It's very, very.

[Myron]

First off, what are they trading for in 20, 26? Like, where do those skills come in handy?

[Matt]

Well, I mean, it's society. It's an older skill, because I'm sure the people that live in Nordic countries countries, they, you know, they had to go get food for survival. And because there was so much snow on the ground, they would have to ski to go get the food. And they would take a gun, presumably, and go shoot the animals while. While skiing. So it was actually a very practical thing. Whereas, like, skiing, like, you know, snowboarding down a half pipe is not practical. But this is, I would argue, maybe the most practical of all of the sports.

[Myron]

They wouldn't even let us in. They said, nah, we're not gonna let y'.

[Producer/Assistant]

All.

[Myron]

Let y' all shooting at targets in the snow.

[Matt]

We're gonna keep y'.

[Myron]

All.

[Matt]

I don't see one. You. You always want to participate in everything. All right, it's NBA All Star Weekend. We talked earlier about the dunk contest, but then there's the actual game. The actual game. And I guess what they have. There are three teams in today's All Star Game. There's Team Stars, Team Stripes, and Team World, which, by the way, is definitely the American way to look at that. I like this All Star Game is how most Americans look at the planet. You know what, boys? We got Team Stars, and we got team straps, and then everybody else is over there. They're the world. We're Stars, we're Stripes, and there's the world.

[Myron]

The person you describe, it is not.

[Matt]

Watching this All Star Game.

[Myron]

They want no part of this All Star.

[Matt]

They're tuned into the Great American Race.

[Myron]

They're watching the alternate version of this All Star Game. Not this one.

[Matt]

That's right. They're watching the TP USA version of the All Star Game.

[Myron]

The Kid Rock.

[Matt]

I'm sorry, I can see my producer getting worried. So, anyway, the point is, they're trying to make this game entertaining. And one of the things people say is, why can't it be like the old days when they played hard, when the players were going at each other? Kevin Durant was asked about that, and here's what he had to say.

[Kevin Durant]

Last couple of weeks, no live. Watched, probably the intro and at least the first quarter. Every All Star Game from, like, the 70s up until, like, late 90s. And I wanted to see what the big deal was and if it was really that much intensity, like Game seven, like y' all said it was back then, and it wasn't. You know what I'm saying? So, like, you know. But that's usually what I Tend to watch the 60s, 70s, that stuff, you know, now they got it all on YouTube, you know, so I can go back and take a peek at the historians of the game and the people that laid the foundation down for us. But I've been watching All Star Games and the intensity the older generation been talking about. I don't know if I seen it.

[Matt]

Interesting. First of all, Kevin Durant might need a hobby.

[Myron]

Martin.

[Matt]

I mean, if he's watching, say that.

[Myron]

Man'S at All Star weekend, watching old YouTube clips. Like, he is the. He is the definition of a basketball junkie. He is in LA at All Star Weekend and he's watched what, 5, 40 All Star Games. I love how committed he is to.

[Matt]

Just girl's like, all right, Kevin, what are we doing for Valentine's Day, honey? It's the second quarter of the 77 all star game. Sit down and let's sit down and look.

[Myron]

See how hard Moses Malone was playing in the 82 All Star. But you know what?

[Matt]

I think he's right. I think he's right because it's very easy for old heads to go. Well, back in my day, blah, blah, blah.

[Myron]

Yep.

[Matt]

But usually when you go back and watch, like if you go back and watch a basketball game in the 80s, they're playing in slow motion compared to now. I mean, they are. There's a lot of stand and throw it in the post, stand around. Like, like it's not nearly as intense as a regular season game now. So I think there's this collective view. Oh, back in the day, in the All Star Game, they went at each other and they did in the fourth quarter, but they were doing a lot of the same stuff back then as well, Right?

[Myron]

Yeah. I mean, I guess I remember All Star Games being about highlights for the first three quarters. Like you wanted Tracy McGrady to throw the ball off the backboard and Vince Carter to catch it and dunk it. You wanted, you know, Steph Marbury and Allen Iverson to go at it. And so I don't know that if it never felt like a regular season game. It did feel like two teams that wanted to go at each other. And like when you look at the old clips, like Michael Jordan at the All Star Game, he's trash talking everybody, like it meant something to them. And now I just don't think.

[Matt]

Now, wait a minute, you're making two different points, though. You in the first part seem to be agreeing with him. And then you're saying, but Michael Jordan was trash talking and cared. Like, do you think they were intense back in the day or not. I mean, Kevin Durant pointed, but. But were they. I mean, when's the last time you went back and watched the 1987 All Star Game? I mean, I haven't, but, like, when's the last time you saw it? 1987.

[Myron]

Yeah, it's been a long time. What I was going to say about the highlights, it was a lot of highlights early in the game, but I do think at the end you saw more intensity. I do think.

[Matt]

But they're intense at the end now.

[Myron]

Yeah. I just think in general, I don't know that it helps you talk about, like, tanking and whether or not it helps the NBA. I don't know that it helps if Anthony Edwards and Kevin Durant and all these guys who are the faces of the game are like, I mean, well.

[Matt]

The Anthony Edwards quote is different where he says it is what it is. But I actually think Kevin Durant's point, besides the fact that he's watching All Star Games in his spare time, I actually think his point is a valid one. We have a tendency as fans and as older people to go, well, it used to be. But if you go back and watch what it looked like back then, it might not be what you think. Sometimes things seem better in hindsight than they did in the moment.

[Myron]

That part's fair. But we're still not getting any current NBA superstar to say, you know what? We hear that this is what fans want.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Myron]

We understand that. This is the conversation. We're going to go out and we're going to play hard. Like, that's how you solve all.

[Matt]

Yeah, but. And they're not. And you're right, I agree with you. The players, these players are not going to do it. But I do think it's fair to say maybe they weren't doing it 40 years ago and everybody's acting like they were. But no one is. What no one listening to this show has, has watched an All Star game from the 80s recently. And maybe you're living in your mind of what it used to be, when really it wasn't that. You just have put nostalgia on it over time.

[Myron]

I think the advantage they had in the 80s and 90s was a general sense that we thought they cared about the game overall. And there was a general competition between all these teams that I think people don't feel that as much across.

[Matt]

Maybe they didn't. Maybe they didn't. That's just what we think.

[Myron]

Perception matters, though.

[Matt]

But, but, but they may think. We may think that because we not nostalgia. Lies. I don't know if that's a word, but have nostalgia for the past.

[Myron]

But imagine. But Matt, imagine if all, all that can be true. Imagine if Kevin Durant just comes out and says, you know what, guys? We're gonna have, we're gonna go at it in this All Star Game.

[Matt]

No, you're right.

[Myron]

You know what? We've heard the talk and we're gonna take the challenge on and we're gonna make it competitive. That's all you got to do. And people would love it and it would change the tone of future All Star Games potentially.

[Matt]

By the way, I like the slow motion of when they shoot the biathlon thing. The bullet flying out of the gun. They show that every Olympics and the bullet just flies out of the gun and it's in slow motion. It is kind of cool. I'm not a gun person, but it's still kind of pretty to see the.

[Myron]

I mean, it's intense, man. This is. This is where the guy and the girlfriend, right. He pleaded to his girl was after.

[Matt]

The biathlon when he said he cheated on his girl. Not a great movie.

[Myron]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Which maybe we should go into at some point. You shouldn't. Girls don't like it if you say you cheated on them in front of an international audience for the.

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[Myron]

They also don't like it if you cheat on them.

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[Myron]

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[Matt]

Oh, this is great. What is this beat right here? Don't.

[Myron]

Don't tell me this is Mariah Carey.

[Matt]

Oh, that's right. I said don't tell me or an odb.

[Myron]

Go back.

[Matt]

That's not how this Old Dirty Bees.

[Myron]

No lie.

[Matt]

What's it labeled as? Lotto. Big energy.

[Myron]

Oh, this is the lotto. This is the Lotto song. Big, Big energy. So, so Lotto took this from Mariah Carey, the original Mariah Carey and odb.

[Matt]

Who's Lotto?

[Myron]

A rapper. A young, A young rapper dates, I think 21 Savage. I believe she's got some good hits.

[Matt]

Well, good.

[Myron]

She's got a great song with Cardi B.

[Matt]

Well, I wish her the best. It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. All right, so you, you know, everybody has athletes that annoy them. Aaron Rodgers annoys me to no end. He's number one. Although you know, he got humbled a little bit this year.

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[Matt]

Yours used to be Kirk Cousins. And then you were very anti Sam Darnold, although he did shut you up and throw it in your face last Sunday, which you haven't had to account for yet. You said Sam Darnold was going to collapse and that didn't happen. Would you like to apologize to him.

[Myron]

I ate all that humble pie he served. And congrats to Sam, Donna. He's a remarkable story, and I'm happy for him.

[Matt]

So you'll stop next year? Like, you won't be on him all year like you were this year?

[Myron]

Top 10 quarterback. I think we can put him ahead of maybe up to seven, potentially.

[Matt]

I'd slow down on that, but. But. But he did extremely well. All right, but. So now you have a new top annoyance. You. There's a player that drives you insane, and I'm going to give you the chance to say why.

[Myron]

I'm tired of Giannis. I'm tired. I mean, it's. It's. Nobody wants to be in a relationship where someone tells them that they're not sure if they want to be in the relationship. And that's all Giannis is doing with all this trade buzz. For two years, he has essentially hinted at this idea that maybe he wants to move on. And every time he's confronted with that, he says, no, I've never said that. Matt, you know how the game works. These guys never publicly say, I want out. That's what their agents are for. But he just continuously makes it seem like he wants to leave Milwaukee, which is okay. Giannis won a championship with the Bucks 2021. If he were to leave in 20, 23, 24, Milwaukee would have said, you know what, man? You were great for us. Good for you. We understand you're going to move on, but now you're dragging this whole thing out. They missed out on the trade deadline. Who knows what happened there? And now today, more Yan is coming out and sounding like, well, I guess I'm kind of in it, and I just can't stand someone in life in general, if you don't want to be in a place, get out. I mean, that's how I am. Don't. Don't do me any favors.

[Matt]

But he can't stand it. I mean, I don't disagree with you, but he can't make himself get out.

[Myron]

The Bucks have this summer, Matt. He could have, but he. He's had multiple. You've watched the James Harden, you know, system, if you will. The guys at that level, who want to leave, they leave. They make it happen. Giannis, I think, but it's harder to.

[Matt]

Win during the season. It's harder to do during the season. So he might have wanted to come back at the beginning of the year, and now he doesn't. Now he's changed his mind. Is that not okay?

[Myron]

I'm just I'm tired of the back and forth. I think he's toying with the organization because I think the organization is in a tough spot, because it's like, you don't want to just give up Giannis, especially if he's telling you that he wants to be there. Giannis is why Damian Lillard was in Milwaukee. Obviously, that didn't work out. Giannis is the guy who's been in charge of all these moves that the organization has made, and now you have one foot out, one foot in. Just go.

[Matt]

I think, okay, well, here's what he had to say. This is what made Myron so mad. This is Giannis with Malika Andrews.

[Myron]

As of today, I'm committed to the working Bucks, and I'm committed to the people that I work with, my teammates, the coaching staff, Coach Duck and John in the front office. What I've said from the beginning of this year, is that out of my mouth and the way I've come of myself, you will never hear me say, I don't want to be a walking buck.

[Matt]

See, I think that's beautiful. As of today, I'm committed to the Milwaukee Bucks, to my teammates, and to my. Actually think that's. What a beautiful cinema. I mean, like, it's Valentine's Day. I would love to be. I would love to be married with. To someone who would say, as of today, we are married. I think that's a beautiful sentiment.

[Myron]

Yeah. If you go in tomorrow and talk to your boss and they say, as of today, you're employed, how would you feel?

[Matt]

You know, as of today, I am employed. I think that, by the way, I have that conversation with ESPN all the time. They're like, as of this Sunday, you are employed. There's a week till next Sunday.

[Myron]

Matt, you always talk about these guys, knowing how they come off, knowing the perception. Giannis is very, very media savvy. He's been in front of a camera for a long time. As of today, Are you kidding? I'm committed to my teammates and my coach.

[Matt]

That's nice.

[Myron]

And then. And then the ending was, what makes me so mad. You will never hear out of my mouth that I don't want to be a Milwaukee buck. I can if you don't.

[Matt]

False, though. Nothing he said was false. You will not hear it out of his mouth.

[Myron]

But, Matt, if you don't like James Harden and Kevin Durant, here's the thing I respect about those guys, and you know, LeBron put them on that list, too. They'll tell you when they're not Happy. They'll tell you when they want to. Like, they'll be upfront about it. They will say, yes. I decided that I wanted to make a move, even if you think they're people who just bounce around the league. Giannis is trying to have it both ways. He wants to be beloved in Milwaukee no matter what happens, and he also wants to set up this next move. And he didn't have to be this way. He could have done this in a very pure, honest, positive way in the off season. And I think everyone will be okay with the reality of, okay, Bucks get a ton of draft picks, maybe some young talent, Giannis moves on, but guess what? You got a ring. This is just playing with people's emotions, and I just can't stand people who do that in general. Make a decision. Stop holding people hostage to your choices on your future when it didn't have to be this ugly. So I'm over Giannis, and I'm just tired of the whole situation.

[Matt]

So you don't like somebody that tries to be two things at once? Like, somebody who's like, I don't know, like a sports writer by day, but a fun homeboy at night? Like, you want somebody. You want somebody who says what they mean that both. You know, if they like UFC or boxing, that's fine, but if they're a lover of foreign films and fine silk, that's okay, too. But. But you don't try to be both. Am I right about that?

[Myron]

That's all. That's a whole different. That's a whole different conversation. I don't like people who are lukewarm on anything, honestly. Like, at the end of the day, be in or out. I mean, you know.

[Matt]

And you think Giannis is out but doesn't want to look like a bad guy.

[Myron]

Oh, he is definitely trying to be the good guy.

[Matt]

So does it work? Let me ask you. Do Milwaukee Bucks fans, do they. They buy it?

[Myron]

No. No. They're ready to move on. Like, and they're all saying, it didn't have to be this way. They're still gonna build a statue form and all that, but, dude, just go. You want a championship, but you don't have to do it. Like, you know what? I'm not sure if I want to be in the relationship, but I still love you. Like, dude, just go.

[Matt]

It's okay if you don't want. If you don't want this. I could have another you in a minute. As a matter of fact, he'll be here in a minute. That's what you're saying the Milwaukee Bucks are saying, right? Beyonce.

[Myron]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Matt]

I don't know if they can know about this. Yeah, you must know about me.

[Myron]

Must not know about this.

[Matt]

We are from Milwaukee.

[Myron]

I gotta have another you in a minute. It's a pretty bold statement. I'll have another you in a minute.

[Matt]

This is a good draft. I could get. I could have another debonsa in a minute. It's Matt, Myron, Matt and Myron.

[Myron]

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[Myron]

This is Sunday Morning with Matt and Myron on ESPN Radio and on the ESPN app. Myron, a woman choked you out in Jiu Jitsu. Yes, I was in my 20s. I went to Jiu jitsu. I did flex, you know, six months I was training and then they put me up against, like, one of the top women in the class, and I'm like, oh, I'm a former athlete. I'm strong. Yeah. And I don't know what the maneuver was, but I couldn't breathe for about eight and a half seconds. The amazing. I was afraid to say stop, you know, but then I had to, or I was gonna go out. But, yeah, so it was. I could.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Myron]

I saw stars, like, you know, and I had to play it off. I, like, stumbled to the water fountain. I'm telling you, don't go to Jiu Jitsu classes unless you, you know, you're not worried about pain. Okay.

[Matt]

So you. So you're like the Andy Kaufman of Jiu Jitsu. You take on all women in the class?

[Myron]

No, like, in that time, like, they just put everybody in the class. In Jiu Jitsu, they destroy everybody out there. So you're like, you're rolling with everybody in a class like that, and it's different levels of skill in Jiu Jitsu. And I was.

[Matt]

Did you fight? Did you fight? Did you fight children? Did you have to follow?

[Myron]

No, but it was all ages.

[Matt]

But this woman was taking off.

[Myron]

No, this one.

[Matt]

This.

[Myron]

This woman who put me up, she was tough, and. And she had me in a hold, and I was like. I didn't know what to do. I just started training, so.

[Matt]

Yeah. So do you still do Jiu Jitsu?

[Myron]

No, I haven't done it since I was in my twenties. It was fun. It was fun, though.

[Matt]

Okay, now, you got a text during the break, which was kind of exciting, and you wanted to tell me on the air, so I don't know what this is, but go ahead.

[Myron]

Well, I got a DM from the Great Buster. Only.

[Matt]

Legend Baseball.

[Myron]

The Legend Buster. I'm always amazed, and I don't know if you feel this, Matt. I'm always amazed when people across the company that I've, like, read and watched and listen to for, like, 20 years know who I am even though I'm here. You know, it's always fascinating. Yeah. Knowing Buster is definitely one of those people.

[Matt]

Just for the record, no one ever contacts me. I don't know anyone at the company. Like, I don't ever know you. Like, you clearly, you get all the time. You'll be like, you know who reached out to me? Chris Berman and Tom Jackson. And I'm like, I don't know anyone. No one's ever reached out to me. Tom Crane is the only person who's ever acknowledged that I work at ESPN at any Point.

[Myron]

Definitely. They definitely know you. You've met a lot of people at the Super Bowl. But Buster only reached out. We were talking about that song that I said was a spin off of Mariah Carey. Like, Latto did that song. Big, big energy. And then Mariah Carey with ODB did a song that I thought that was from. And Buster only reached out and said that song is actually originated from a song by the Tom Tom Club that Mariah remixed. And I didn't know that.

[Matt]

Oh, the Tom Tom Club.

[Myron]

Is this the original? Oh, this is great. I didn't realize Mariah Carey remixed this.

[Matt]

Yes. So this is the time.

[Myron]

No idea. Yes. And then Mariah took this and turned it into a big hit. I didn't know that.

[Matt]

So Tom Tom goes to Mariah, goes to Lada. Here we go. So who's going? TomTom's probably next with Making Money.

[Myron]

I don't know what you just did.

[Matt]

But I don't know. I was just, you know, I was freestyling. That's the way it goes. All right, well, thanks to Buster, only impressed. Thanks to Buster, only to want to shout out the Tom Tom Club here and that.

[Myron]

The legend of Buster only listens to the show. I mean, again, for me, the. The kid in me, like, these people I've read and watched and listened to so many years, man. It's pretty cool.

[Matt]

That is cool. I. That. That is cool. That did happen to me once at the Super Bowl. Somebody came up and said, I introduced myself to somebody, and I go, oh, I'm so and so. You don't know who I am. I do. Blah, blah, blah. He was like, yes, I work on the Dan Patrick show, and Dan and I have talked about you. But then he didn't say what they said, so I don't know if it was. He didn't say that they were like, fans. He just said, like, we've talked about you. Okay, well, that could be. All right, fair enough.

[Myron]

They know you, man. That's. That's. They know the show. I mean, that's a cool. That's a cool thing, man. People listen to the show.

[Matt]

So sometimes people, you know, sometimes coaches, they have different ways, Myron, of motivating their players, right? There are coaches out there who in, like, let's say in college sports, there are some that are yellers. There are some that are like, try to be your friend. There are some who are disciplinarians. There are some who are kind of more laid back, and then there is Jerome Tang of Kansas State. Now, for people who don't follow Kansas State basketball. You're in the majority. But a few years back, they went to the sweet 16. What one? There's. How many people name you could do this. But I'd asked the person driving around, name the best Kansas State basketball player you can think of. If you didn't say Michael Beasley, there's. You don't know any. There's no Richmond. Yeah, yeah, but you got to be, like, 60. Didn't remember Mitch Richmond at Kansas State. Like, who can name. How many people out there can name a Kansas State basketball player? That's not one of the two we just mentioned. Thank you. Okay. So a few years ago, they made it to sweet 16, and Jerome Tang started talking a lot of trash. Kansas State fans started to get invested in the program. They started putting a lot of money in. Tang got a bunch of players in the NiL era, but they really haven't had success. And this year, they have probably one of the top 10 payrolls in college basketball. And they're not good. They're just not good at all. So Tang did a press conference after a recent loss to Cincinnati, and here's what he said.

[Myron]

This was embarrassing. These dudes do not deserve to wear this uniform. There will be very few of them in it next year. I'm embarrassed for the university. I'm embarrassed for our fans, our student section. It is just ridiculous. We got practice at 6am tomorrow morning, and we will get this thing right. I have no answer and no words. So y' all got two questions. So whoever want to ask two questions, I'll answer them to the best of my ability right now. But right now, like, I'm, like, pissed.

[Matt]

What do you make of that, Myron? Strong words. A lot of y' all ain't even gonna be here next year. How do you like that?

[Myron]

Well, I mean, you know, Jerome's the subject of rumors about whether he's going to be here. And I. I don't think. I don't understand this approach in the transfer portal era, when people can just leave and sort of abandon your program. Like all these guys, Matt, who don't want to be, quote, unquote, player coaches. You kind of have to be on some level. Like, I think this old school way of doing business doesn't work anymore. But the challenge with a Jerome Tang in his situation is, to your point, Jerome Tang had a bunch of money to spend in the last couple years. He's had access to some of the top players in the portal. They just haven't been able to put Together a winning product. So it's on him. If your guys are checked out, not given an effort in mid February, that's on the coaching staff. And oh, by the way, Jerome Tang can say whatever he wants because Kansas State owes him $18 million if they fire him. So this is also. A dude has financial security that these players aren't going to.

[Matt]

But how's he going to turn it around when he just looked at you and said, you don't deserve to wear the jersey? And by the way, you're not going to be here next year. How in the world he says, we're going to turn it around? What players going to hear that and say, I'd like to turn it around for you, Coach.

[Myron]

But Matt, this is why all these, remember the Titans coaches aren't lasting today. Like all these guys who grew up watching all those shows, all those. All those movies where, like, the coach made some big speech.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Myron]

And got everybody motivated. Those guys don't last because now you got players who have flexibility that they never had before. They've got financial security on a lot of levels, and they know that you're not their last stop. So you do have to work differently to build relationships. But when you say stuff like, they don't deserve to wear the uniform. Okay, you know, if that's something you saw in a Disney movie in 1994, it's not going to work today.

[Matt]

No, he's not. These players, completely different. Yeah. It's not even just like the Bobby Knights of the world, obviously, that doesn't work. But even, like, take a person like Rick Pitino. Rick Patino has had to completely change the way he coaches. He's had to, because the Rick Patino of the Kentucky or Louisville era, it doesn't work now. So he's still a great coach, but he's had to completely change. And you can tell that frustrates him. But he has found a way to make it work. A lot of coaches have just gotten out of the business. My argument is, good, go on. We'll do fine without you. We don't need you screaming at people. I've always thought my entire life, coaching is the only profession where people think it's appropriate to scream at their subordinates. You're not allowed to do that in any other walks of life. You're not allowed to say, well, you work for me so I can yell at you. Now, college sports is just like regular jobs. You. You have to be a leader without being a bully. And Jerome, if you can't do it, go on and somebody else will because I see a new generation of coaches like John Shire, like Todd golden, like, well, Danny Hurley's a yeller. But in general, a lot of these young guys are not and they're having success. Now. The second thing is I don't know if you watch the Georgia Oklahoma game.

[Myron]

No.

[Matt]

If you didn't, you're. It's understandable. But it did have a great moment. Have you ever seen a popcorn machine catch on fire? Well, if you were watching Georgia Oklahoma, it happened during the game. Play the audio against Evander.

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[Matt]

Vanderbilt. Oh my goodness, look at.

[Myron]

Everybody's looking.

[Advertiser/Promo Voice]

Wow.

[Matt]

Yeah, Rodney, there is. You can see that. Oh my goodness. This.

[Myron]

We got a full blown fire going on right now.

[Matt]

Well, a popcorn machine, it looks like. I mean, everybody's starting every stop you can get. We got the, the, the sprinkler overhead system is working right now. So our officials, they pointed up there. Goodness gracious.

[Advertiser/Promo Voice]

Well, you just see the crowd looking.

[Myron]

Up there and you're like, what. What's going on?

[Matt]

Talk about burnt popcorn, by the way. How about that? Overcooked. All right, so I. First of all, the video is amazing if you haven't seen it. But I want to play that again. And here's what I want you all to do rather than being shocked by the popcorn. Don't listen to the play by play guy. Listen to the color analyst. He is great. Because during that audio he's like, well, look at that. Can you believe that? Oh, my goodness. Look at the popcorn. Like, he's great. He's a. So that's a southern voice that I love. Play that again real quick against a Vanderbilt, a very good Vanderbilt team. Oh, my goodness.

[Advertiser/Promo Voice]

Wow.

[Matt]

Yeah, Rodney, there is.

[Myron]

You can see that.

[Matt]

Oh my goodness.

[Myron]

Going on right now.

[Matt]

A popcorn machine, it looks like. I mean, everybody's starting to clear out. You can see we got the, the sprinkler overhead system is working right now. So our officials, they pointed up there that's going, goodness gracious.

[Myron]

Just see the crowd looking up there and you're like, what. What's going on?

[Matt]

I love that guy. My. Because he's genuinely worried there's a fire. Like, he's just like, there's a fire. Does anybody see that fire? Somebody get that fire. Like he is. He is completely focused on the fire. I love it.

[Myron]

I mean, he sounds like he's on the phone with 911. Like he. It sounds like he's trying to get the authorities to the scene. And, and the play by play guy.

[Matt]

We got A fire I love. I wish we could isolate and just play his audio. I don't think we could do that, but that would be hilarious.

[Myron]

One of the things, when do we stop running from fires because people kind of walk away from this fire and we used to run and nobody's like really full speed running the way I think they should be.

[Matt]

There's a video from this fire and I'm not sure which one it is because there's a bunch of videos, but there's one I would like people to see. There's a fire going on and the video goes viral for the fire. But what people don't recognize, it's like a 20 second video. At the end of the video, the video's focus of the fire. A 75 year old man stands up to walk out and his glasses are red and blinking. He looks like Elton John as he's walking out. And to me, he somehow steals the show from a popcorn fire in a basketball game. Have you seen that guy is incredible.

[Myron]

Yes, there's a lot going on in Oklahoma.

[Matt]

He just gets up and his glasses are blinking red.

[Myron]

It's a lot going on.

[Matt]

So Georgia and Oklahoma. That was an exciting. Oklahoma won by 16. For those of you that care when we when we come back, it'll be our final segment. We'll take your pick. Hopefully Buster only will have more corrections for Myron's musical knowledge. That's Matt and Myron.

[Myron]

Matt and Myron. The Podcast Foreign.

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[Myron]

This is Sunday Morning with Matt and Myron on ESPN Radio and on the ESPN app.

[Matt]

I just love, too, that you want.

[Myron]

Everyone to know that you're a lover of foreign film and fine silk. Yeah. Can you give us one? I mean, it's Valentine's Day. Maybe someone wants to romance their special someone by watching a foreign film with some fine silk. Maybe some. Think of one. Recommendations from Myron. I can't think of one.

[Advertiser/Promo Voice]

Off the top.

[Matt]

You're a lover of foreign film. You can't think of one? Can't think of a single one.

[Myron]

Well, I wasn't prepared. I wasn't prepared for all. You know what I do, I watch a lot of those Netflix movies that have, like, subtitles, you know, like the Bollywood. He just.

[Producer/Assistant]

Boy, that is.

[Matt]

Myron Metcalf is a fascinating individual.

[Myron]

Name a single one.

[Matt]

Lover. He's a lover of foreign film.

[Myron]

I can't. Wasn't the English Patient. Was that. Was that informed? That wasn't a. No, that was boring. There was something like English.

[Matt]

English. It has English in the name. All right, so here's. This is the one I like. Yes. So they killing me. I gave you for people who don't know if you listen the first hour of this show. We just had a version of that same conversation in the first hour. Myron, that means they made fun of you for not knowing a foreign film 48 hours ago. And you had to have known I was going to bring it up. And you didn't figure one out between now and then?

[Myron]

I did. I did. I brought up Anatomy of the Fall and Parasite. I did bring those up.

[Matt]

Anatomy of the Fall. Those are modern foreign films. Yeah. And you put that out 12 years ago. So that means you knew you were lying and you didn't even try to cover your lie. You were just so brazen. You're like, I'll keep lying about foreign films.

[Myron]

Lawyer. I don't think it goes about a liar. I don't think that's. That's what I was doing.

[Matt]

You had two chances to name a foreign favor.

[Myron]

Let me just say something. I was ambitious. And I don't think there's anything wrong with you being ambitious in life, aspiring towards something and being a visionary. You know what that, what that bio is about.

[Matt]

That's what they said during the Watergate trials too. We were just being ambitious. We weren't. I was just. We were just being ambitious. I was.

[Myron]

I was a hopeful young man.

[Matt]

It's not injury, sir. It's ambition. That's what America was built on. It is now time to take your pick.

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Take your pick.

[Matt]

You take your pick.

[Myron]

It's time to take your pick with Matt and Myron.

[Matt]

Dude, the skeleton is something to watch these people going head first 75 miles.

[Myron]

It looks so scary.

[Producer/Assistant]

I feel like that's an aptly named.

[Matt]

It is. Like that's all.

[Myron]

I mean, that looks like the scariest thing you could ever do in life.

[Matt]

Yeah, it really is. All right, so it's time to make our picks. James, give us some, some games for us to select.

[Producer/Assistant]

Let's start with men's college basketball. Indiana at number eight, Illinois. Illinois is a ten and a half point favorite at home on DraftKings.

[Matt]

So you got Illinois is playing pretty well in Indiana. Stinks. Illinois all. Are they all Serbs or all Croats? He's got like. He's got a team. Well, no, I mean he. They play it up like all their national players. Yeah, but they're all from like the same country. I think they're all either from. It's either Croatia or Serbia. They will beat the Hoosiers today. Give me Illinois.

[Myron]

Yeah. Killing Boswell, who's been out with a hand injury is back today. Illinois full strength. I think can be a final four team. They win today.

[Matt]

Yeah, I think they win easy. They're fun to watch too. All the guys are versatile, can shoot and drive. They'll have three guys from that team picked in the draft this year. Who's next?

[Producer/Assistant]

Women's college basketball. Number 14, Ole Miss at number 18, Kentucky. Matt, who you got here?

[Matt]

I'm going to get Kentucky. They're at home. They've. They're finally fully healthy and they're a dangerous team when you get in the tournament. They're big. Probably the biggest team in the country. Ole Miss, by the way, was one of the worst programs in entire sport and they've turned it around and now are competitive in ranked. But I'll take Kentucky today.

[Myron]

Yeah, very Indiana football like story at Ole Miss. That front court in Kentucky though, I think is the edge. The size and strength there, I think that's the edge.

[Matt]

Edge.

[Myron]

Give me Kentucky.

[Matt]

Yeah. Shout out to Kenny Brooks. The Women's coach at Kentucky who has a great coach. He's like, I like three of the top 13. Like, it's going to be South Carolina and Kentucky in the next few years as the two programs in the sec. Who's next?

[Producer/Assistant]

We got some men's hockey. Canada absolutely blowing out France right now. It's 10 to 2 right now. That's a brutal one. But later on today, we have Germany against Team USA. Germany is plus 675 to win out right. Team USA is favored by three and a half goals. Who you got here?

[Matt]

USA struggled a little bit in their last game against Denmark. We're behind. Ended up winning. Team usa, though, is loaded. This is all setting up for USA Canada in the gold medal, which might be the biggest event of the Olympics because. But I think USA wins today. I don't think they cover, though. I think they'll win by three, not the three and a half.

[Myron]

Yeah, I think Team USA wins. They're on a collision course with Canada. We all want to see that, and it would be cool to see. So I think.

[Matt]

By the way, Myron told me during the break he's rooting for Canada in that match. Just.

[Myron]

I've never said that.

[Matt]

That's what he said. What's next?

[Producer/Assistant]

I love Sidney Crosby, so I. I'm. I'm. I root for a Canada, too.

[Matt]

Oh, wow.

[Producer/Assistant]

Yeah. Daytona 500 today. We had Ryan McGee on to talk about it. We have ryan Blaney, who's +900, the favorite to win. Kyle Busch, Joey Logano, Denny Hamler, all plus 1000. Kyle Larson, Chase Elliott, plus 1200. Byron, plus 1400. One more. Brad Keselowski, who has a broken leg, plus 2200.

[Matt]

I'm going to pick Joey Logano. They call him Sliced Bread because he's the best thing since Sliced Bread. Terrible nickname, but he gets the win.

[Myron]

You know, Jim Brown, when he would get hit, he would act like he was hurt, and then he would get up and he'd run for like, another hundred yards. Brad Keselowski is hurt, but I think he's acting like he's more hurt than he really is. He's trying to throw out the competition. He's walking around with a cane, believe it or not. He gets in the car today and he wins. And as long as he can, hit the gas, stories every time. Brad Kozlowski with the miraculous finish in the Daytona 5.

[Matt]

What's next?

[Producer/Assistant]

NBA All Star Game. Kind of have a new format. Round robin. You have the world with Luca, Joker Wemby, The USA Stars has Devin Booker, Anthony Edwards.

[Matt]

All right, we just got 10 seconds.

[Producer/Assistant]

Braun, Steph, KD who do.

[Matt]

You're the producer. You're supposed to be keeping track. What do you got? Myron, Team World. You cannot ask me as an American. American to pick between the stars and the stripes. They run together and they do not bleed. Give me a time. Stars and the stripes in the finals. Myron, thank you very much. Enjoy your foreign films. This is Matt.

[Myron]

Byron, thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the Podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10:00am Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, and on SiriusXM Channel 80. Matt and Myron, the Podcast.

[Matt]

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