Hour 3: Hungry Hungry Hippos

Summary

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Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Episode: Hour 3: Hungry Hungry Hippos
Date: June 7, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones & Myron Medcalf (ESPN Radio)

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Episode Overview

In this lively third hour, Matt and Myron dive into the pulse of the NBA Finals, reflect on the cultural phenomenon of the Knicks' run, preview the upcoming FIFA World Cup, and revel in quirky sports and world trivia. The duo combines sports analysis with personal stories and banter, debating the value of “real” fan experiences, greatest New York athletes, and even the perils of Colombian hippos. It’s an episode filled with genuine sports passion, geographic detours, and laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Finals: Knicks vs. Spurs Breakdown

• Knicks Leading 2-0: The Knicks have a strong start in the Finals, up 2-0 and favorites to potentially sweep the Spurs.
• Knicks’ Roster Depth & Experience: Myron attributes New York’s control to their maturity and depth, especially in tight games:

  “...Knicks had all the advantages and that experience has been the difference. Late in games you're seeing a bunch of 22 year olds versus a bunch of seasoned guys who've been in this moment before.” — Myron (03:18)

• On the Spurs’ Future: Both hosts see a bright, long-term horizon in San Antonio with “Wimby” (Victor Wembanyama), but warn against expecting dynastic runs due to injuries and the unpredictability of NBA careers.
• Pressure Dynamics: Myron argues all the pressure is actually on New York to close the series for their first title since 1973:

  “All the pressure [is] on New York. Who cares what San Antonio does at this point? ...This might be your last shot to get a win over [Wimby] as he continues to improve.” — Myron (05:44)

2. The Fan Experience: Would You Sell Finals Tickets?

• Matt’s Big Question: What’s more “authentic” — being in the Garden or with the crowd in Harlem?
• Myron’s Take: Prefers celebrating with “real regular Knicks fans” in Harlem or Brooklyn over sitting among “the Hamptons crowd” at MSG.

  “I want to be next to the guy who's been watching this team for 40 years and has never experienced this moment.” — Myron (09:58)

• Ticket Price Debate: How much would you have to be offered to sell your Finals seat?

  “You can make more money, but you can't have that experience...It’d have to be 25 [thousand] to 30 [thousand].” — Myron (25:38)

• Mayor Myron, Floor or the Masses? Myron says as mayor, he’d sit on the floor (“I gotta show some prominence!”), but otherwise wants to be with the authentic crowd (11:00-11:15).

3. Legacy Talk: The Most Beloved New York Athletes

• Does a Knicks Title Change Everything?
  • Matt & Myron gauge where Jalen Brunson would rank if Knicks win.
  • Consensus: Derek Jeter is “untouchable,” but Brunson might become the most beloved modern Knick, potentially overtaking Patrick Ewing.

  “I think he's right behind Jeter for this generation... one of the faces of the league if he can take New York to a championship.” — Myron (27:47)

• Social Media Era Matters: Brunson's impact would be magnified for fans under 45.
• Other Names Discussed: Rivera, Clyde Frazier, Eli Manning, Messier, Aaron Judge.
• Knicks as Unifiers: Unlike other teams in NYC, the Knicks “unify the city 100%” (32:24).

4. World Cup Preview: Groups G to L & Travel Dreams

• Group Picks: Matt and Myron preview bottom half of the World Cup groups, picking favorites and debating which country they’d most like to visit.
  • Sample banter:
    • Belgium or Egypt?

      “How do you think the pyramids are going to play into it?” — Matt (14:45) “Mystique.” — Myron (14:47)

    • Spain or Uruguay?

      “My sister was in Spain...told me a lot about Madrid and how beautiful it was.” — Myron (16:31)

    • France or Senegal?

      “The French are a lot, so probably just Senegal.” — Myron (17:22)

• Colombia’s Hippo Problem:
  • Notable quirky digression on Pablo Escobar’s escaped hippos taking over Colombian rivers (19:22).

  “It’s the only place with feral hippos, I believe, outside [Africa]. And hippos like, you don't want to mess with a hippo.” — Myron & Matt (19:39–19:54)

• Notable World Geography: Matt quizzes Myron on the capital of Paraguay (Asunción), leading to playful ribbing (41:11).

5. Take Your Pick: Sports Predictions Segment

• NBA Finals Game 3: Both lean Spurs by a hair, noting it’s hard to see a young team go down 3-0 (37:30–38:20).
• NHL Finals: Matt picks the Golden Knights to win Game Four; Myron roots for his Hurricanes if they start hot (38:43–39:36).
• World Cup Opener: Myron takes the U.S.; Matt predicts a draw vs. Paraguay (40:07).
• MLB Picks: Quick-fire predictions for Cubs, Reds, Brewers, and more, with playful name jokes (42:51–44:50).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Knicks Fans Authenticity:

  “I don't think the real...Knicks fans will be in the building.” — Myron (09:17)

• On Jalen Brunson’s Potential Place in New York Lore:

  “If Jalen Brunson wins, he overtakes Ewing in beloved. Now, that doesn't mean he's the greatest, Nick.” — Matt (28:48)

• On Tickets' Value for True Fans:

  “You can make more money, but you can't have that experience. As a season ticket holder...it’d have to be 25 to 30 [thousand].” — Myron (25:14–25:41)

• Geography Comedy:

  “Can you give me the first letter?” — Myron (41:17)
  “Just spell it.” — James (41:24)
  “Is it a Salenka?” — Myron (41:30)

• On the Colombia Hippo Problem:

  “Because of Pablo Escobar, they have a hippo problem. Hippos like, you don't want to mess with a hippo. They destroy everything.” — Myron & Matt (19:22–19:54)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• NBA Finals Deep Dive: 02:27–08:03
• Fan Experience & Ticket Price Debate: 08:03–11:23, 24:17–26:07
• World Cup Preview Groups G-L: 14:07–21:02
• Colombia Hippo Story: 19:22–19:54
• Beloved NY Athletes, City Unification: 26:01–33:08
• Take Your Pick (Predictions): 36:54–45:00
• World Geography Quiz (Paraguay’s Capital): 41:09–41:56

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Final Thoughts

Hour 3 of “Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron” is a passionate, wide-ranging sports tapestry. The hosts’ blend of basketball insight, city culture, travel humor, and quirky facts (hippos, anyone?) delivers a sports radio hour that’s engaging whether you’re a diehard or casual fan. The episode’s highlights are the Knicks’ Finals run, the profound meaning of fandom, and the global flavor brought by their World Cup discussions. It’s a love letter to the joy of sports — and the variety of ways we all experience it.

Transcript

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[Matt Martin]

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[Myron Metcalf]

I wasn't really prepared to give Tyler Childress a message. Hope he supports the show. You asked him about that.

[Matt Martin]

He probably supports the show.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's probably the best he can do for me.

[Matt Martin]

He's a. He's a. I wouldn't say he's acquaintance of mine. Like we say hello. I bet. I bet he knows Myron Metcalf. I bet he knows it. He said you should. You should know it.

[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Martin]

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[Myron Metcalf]

But what an incredible era. It's why I'm here, you know, Meeting Stuart Scott changed my life. So it's just amazing.

[Matt Martin]

How did it. How did it change your life?

[Myron Metcalf]

I was an intern at ESPN the Magazine, living in New York City, went up to Bristol, and they were like, hey, we got a surprise. They brought out all the Sports center anchors, all. Everybody. Stuart Scott walks out, and I just was talking to him, and I was like, hey, man, I want to do this. You know, one day. He's like, hey, man, you can do it. Go do it. That's all I needed to hear. Like, Stuart Scott a little.

[Matt Martin]

You just need a little affirmation Stuart.

[Myron Metcalf]

If Stuart Scott said you can do it, I 100% believed him after that moment. Man. So what a legend for me.

[Matt Martin]

Well, good for you. That's awesome. Well, that is on this. It was SportsCenter that podcast and and the videos are available Disney plus and on podcast platforms now. The Knicks are up 20 in the finals. They will play again tomorrow night and they are a two and a half point favorite. They lead the series two. Oh, is this going to be a sweep, Myron? Is this going to be New York on Wednesday dancing all across the city?

[Myron Metcalf]

I have a hard time believing it would be a sweep because the games have been so close. I think maybe New York loses one because I think when B has the potential to have one of those 40 point 28 rebound games, but I think it'll be four one and a sweep wouldn't surprise me. I just think New York coming into this series and I said this, they had every advantage outside of wimby where no one is a matcher for wimby. The Knicks were better everywhere else. They had the better bench, the better supporting cast. They'd won the series in the regular season the last time they played. Coming into this series, the Knicks had destroyed the spurs and for the most part, young teams don't win championships in the NBA. So I thought the Knicks had all the advantages and that experience has been the difference. Late in games you're seeing a bunch of 22 year olds versus a bunch of seasoned guys who've been in this moment before.

[Matt Martin]

By the way, just side note, one of the members of Tyler Childer's band just texted me and said, please tell Myron hello from Tyler Childer's band.

[Myron Metcalf]

I told you I'm known. I'm known in circles that I don't even know. I don't understand.

[Matt Martin]

I don't know if I would take from that and known they were being polite and saying, saying hey Myra, nice to. I don't think they were saying, look how known you are.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I'm just, I'm connected to circles that you wouldn't even understand, you know.

[Matt Martin]

Okay, I'm glad to hear that. To your point, I. Part of me wonders, listen, I think the spurs are going to for the next eight to ten years be a contender. Part of me wonders though if they just for whatever reason and you know, somebody with a high basketball IQ could probably say the reason. They just match up extremely well with OKC. You know, OKC, I think had. Has had what, 22 losses this year and eight of them are San Antonio, like, part of me just wonders, are they a team that's maybe not quite ready, but for whatever reason, they could beat okc, and that's how they got here. And thus the Knicks are, to your point, just better. I mean, basically, the only position on paper that you would say San Antonio is better is Wimby. And Carl's outplayed Wimby in the last two games. I'm not gonna say he's better, but he's outplayed him. So in that scenario, it's not shocking. Now, they won both games on the road, now they're at home. Does that change the dynamic in any way? Negative for the Knicks? You wouldn't think so, no.

[Myron Metcalf]

But it feels like the pressure has shifted. You know, the San Antonio spurs come in as a favorite. They're at home, and now it's like the Knicks have to do it. I think people aren't anticipating the Game four has to be a Knicks victory. They have to finish the sweep, win the first championship since 1973, and just really send the whole city and fan base into a frenzy.

[Matt Martin]

So you think. You actually think the pressure is amped up, even though they're up to.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's all the pressure on New York. Who cares what San Antonio does at this point? Your star is 22. Your other biggest stars are 21 and 20. To your point. I think you said it well. The spurs are going to be a contender for a very long time. And I'll tell you what, this might be your last chance to catch Wimby. This might be your last shot to get a win over him as he continues to improve.

[Matt Martin]

Well, you got to be careful saying stuff like that, because the history of the league shows, you know, guys get hurt.

[Myron Metcalf]

They do.

[Matt Martin]

Like, things change. I mean, you know, when Denver won with Jokic, you could have made an argument, okay, this is going to be the first of four or five. I mean, people thought that with Giannis, when. When his team won, when Luca lost in the Finals, they were like, here we go. Dallas has got. I mean, you. Things change. We have had eight different champs over the last eight years. We do.

[Myron Metcalf]

We haven't had a team with this much youth. Like, you're always talking about rookie contracts and the value that the spurs have, all this contractual. These contractual advantages right now to keep this group together.

[Matt Martin]

But that won't stay forever. So. So. So that's not. I mean, that's part of the change. You know, look, dear and Fox didn't have the greatest game in Game 2, but I don't think they're here. If De' Aaron Fox is not a part of the team, and he might not be part of the team in a year or two, just from a contract standpoint. So you do have to say, I. I'm not saying that they're not there. Wimby's going to be a dominant force. But I do think it's easy for teams to go, well, we have all this time in the future that doesn't always turn out to be correct.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I think this conversation has been a little different because of the force he is on both sides of the ball. I mean, they could have won both games. You can make the case they should have. And we'd be having a different conversation around Wembley. He made a bunch of mistakes in those games, especially game two at the end. We saw that. But he looks like a guy who. You could see him dominating this league for a long time just because of his youth. And the Knicks, though, are showing the value of having a mature team. And I think maybe this is. Matt. The only other way you can build a team, you can go pay a bunch, a couple of max guys and try to find a supporting cast, which is what a number of teams have done to this point. Or you can take a Jalen Brunson who says, all right, I'm gonna take a little pay cut here so I can be the king of the whole city. And it's worked out in his favor. So, so far.

[Matt Martin]

Well, things have changed a lot in the league in the sense that you have to draft your stars and that it's very rare that a star gets traded. Jalen Brunson is an exception in terms of. He got signed as a free agent. But generally speaking, you're going to have to draft your stars, and San Antonio has. Has done that. I want to go to the atmosphere in game three. Okay, you know what? The ticket prices are. Now, granted, you're not a Knicks fan, but what's the amount of money, Myron, that you would pay to sit fifth row for that game Monday night?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, if you're a real fan, and you.

[Matt Martin]

If you're. You. You're Myron Metcalf, Money bag. Myron. How much would you pay?

[Myron Metcalf]

Over a thousand.

[Matt Martin]

You're not gonna pay over a thousand?

[Myron Metcalf]

Maybe two. I'm not. No. It. I don't. I think the real. I think if you're in the building, and this is nothing against the people who are rich enough to be in there, that's gonna be a. A different kind of Crowd. Whereas I'd rather be in some spot in Brooklyn, some spot in Harlem.

[Matt Martin]

You would not rather be in Harlem at the game?

[Myron Metcalf]

I would.

[Matt Martin]

No, you wouldn't. You're lying. You'd rather be at a bodega in Harlem than to go to the game.

[Myron Metcalf]

Those guys are. That's going to be like the Hamptons that I have no tie to those people in the building who are paying 11,000 to be in the nose to

[Matt Martin]

the people in Harlem either.

[Myron Metcalf]

I would feel much more like I'm dealing with real regular Knicks fans. And those guys I don't think will be in the building.

[Matt Martin]

If I offered you the ability to go to game three with me.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Matt Martin]

Or we can go sit in Harlem. You're going to choose to go to Harlem?

[Myron Metcalf]

I'd rather go to a spot. Harlem. I'd rather go to a real estate. So I'd have to establish bar.

[Matt Martin]

You would turn down my ticket?

[Myron Metcalf]

I would.

[Matt Martin]

To go to a sports bar in Harlem?

[Myron Metcalf]

I would. I'd rather have the experience with regular fans.

[Matt Martin]

You are. You are crazy.

[Myron Metcalf]

I would rather have an experience with regular fans. Real Knicks fans. I want to be next to the guy who's been watching this team for 40 years and has never experienced this moment. I want to be next to that person.

[Matt Martin]

I know you. You are a celebrity. Like you are. You love. Oh, I knew Stuart Scott.

[Myron Metcalf]

I knew.

[Matt Martin]

I knew Bret Michaels. Like, you're always all these people.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I want to be in a. I think. I think the real experience is going to be okay around real Knicks fans.

[Matt Martin]

One more question.

[Myron Metcalf]

I said in that Knicks fan.

[Matt Martin]

Let's say you're the mayor of New York. Mom Dahmen.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Martin]

He gets heat because he chooses to sit in like section 220. He doesn't sit down on the floor. You're the mayor of New York. Mayor Myron. Are you sitting on the floor or are you sitting with the masses?

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm probably sitting on the floor. If I'm.

[Matt Martin]

No way. But that goes against what you just said.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm the mayor. That's different. On the mayor. I gotta. I gotta show some prominence. I would say I'd probably. I'd sit on the floor.

[Matt Martin]

So you're going. So wait a minute. This makes no sense. Yeah. You're going to choose to go to Harlem instead of the game. But if you're going to the game, you want to be down on the

[Myron Metcalf]

floor as the mayor. Yeah, I might be on the Knicks bench as the mayor. I mean, I might. Yeah, I would use all the advantages of Being the mayor, you know, what are the things I can do? I do them all.

[Matt Martin]

Okay, I didn't realize that. Well, you, if you listened earlier, we previewed half of the World cup, but there's another half. Myron's already told you who's going to win and we've seen what countries he would visit. We will do the second half of the World cup and get you ready for a big day in sports. That's next here on Matt,

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

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[Matt Martin]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Martin]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Martin]

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[Myron Metcalf]

Brooks and Done.

[Matt Martin]

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[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I knew it was one of them.

[Matt Martin]

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[Myron Metcalf]

We need to buy the checks.

[Matt Martin]

We have been doing a little World cup preview. We pre previewed the first six groups. Now we're going to do the bottom six groups. We want to make sure everybody gets their time, Myron. So let's start with group G. I'm gonna read you the teams. You tell me who will win it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Matt Martin]

Belgium, Egypt, Iran, New Zealand.

[Myron Metcalf]

Does Egypt have. Is Muhammad Salah? Is that his name?

[Matt Martin]

I don't know if he still plays, but possibly.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think he still plays. That's one of the stars. I know. So I will go with Egypt. Plus the pyramids and all that. I think Egypt.

[Matt Martin]

How do you think the pyramids are going to play into it?

[Myron Metcalf]

Mystique.

[Matt Martin]

They're going to have Mystique when they get out there.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I'm going to go with Belgium.

[Matt Martin]

They have an aging generation that was supposed to bring them a World Cup. They've never really done what everyone had hoped. They're kind of aging out now. This will be their last ride. So I think they win the group. Now, which of those countries would you want to visit? Belgium, Egypt, Iran or New Zealand?

[Myron Metcalf]

I want to see the Sphinx in the pyramid, so Egypt for sure.

[Matt Martin]

Oh, you want to go to Egypt. You know, they say when you go there, there's a lot of people, like, a lot of people trying to sell you stuff.

[Myron Metcalf]

Like in America.

[Matt Martin]

Well, that's true. I guess there are parts of America like that, too. I would want to go to New Zealand. It's very beautiful, New Zealand. Have you seen the mountains and all of that? That's.

[Myron Metcalf]

It looks. Isn't Aqua dude from there? What's his name?

[Matt Martin]

Aqua dude?

[Myron Metcalf]

The guy who's in the movie. He's. He's the big tall Aqua guy.

[Matt Martin]

He plays Jason Momoa.

[Myron Metcalf]

Jason Momoa.

[Matt Martin]

He's from Hawaii, I thought.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, I thought it was New Zealand. Okay, same thing.

[Matt Martin]

All right, let's go to group H. Spain, Cape Verde, which I probably. Well, I've not been to Saudi Arabia and Uruguay. Who you got?

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, man. I'll go. Uruguay.

[Matt Martin]

Going to go with Uruguay. Monte video.

[Myron Metcalf]

What is that?

[Matt Martin]

That's the capital of Uruguay. Montevideo.

[Myron Metcalf]

I didn't know that.

[Matt Martin]

Okay, well, you just learned. I'm going to take Spain. Spain's got that young guy. They're training in Chattanooga. They're training in Chattanooga. Which I think is funny to think of the Spanish national team at the Chattanooga Choo Choo in Tennessee. That's where their home base is with. Where would you want to visit of those countries? Spain.

[Myron Metcalf]

My sister was in Spain for a While and told me a lot about Madrid and how beautiful it was.

[Matt Martin]

I love Spain. I've been. I would pick it again, although Cape Verde, just for the mystery. I don't even know where it is. I think it would be fun to go there, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I think it's like a series

[Matt Martin]

of islands or something. France, Group I. France, Senegal, Iraq and Norway. Where are you? Would you like to go?

[Myron Metcalf]

I feel like France should be the overwhelming favorite.

[Matt Martin]

I think they are, right? I think they are.

[Myron Metcalf]

Mbappe. Is that his name?

[Matt Martin]

Is he playing well? He's. Yes, he's. I assume so.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay. Yeah, I think you got.

[Matt Martin]

Oh, I'm going to take France. But where would you want to visit of those countries?

[Myron Metcalf]

Give me the list again.

[Matt Martin]

France, Senegal, Iraq and Norway.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'll go with Senegal.

[Matt Martin]

Senegal, really?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Martin]

Why would you want to visit Senegal?

[Myron Metcalf]

Some different. I mean, the French are a lot, so probably just Senegal.

[Matt Martin]

Do you know anything about Senegal?

[Myron Metcalf]

Not a ton, but I would learn if I went.

[Matt Martin]

You would learn? I would go to Norway. The fjords.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay. Yeah, that sounds about on brand.

[Matt Martin]

Come on now, see why you got to do that to me? I'm just saying they got fjords. I don't know. Like, if you want me, I'll go to Senegal with you. If you want.

[Myron Metcalf]

Are you building, like, are you building high speed Internet lines or something out there? Like, what are you doing?

[Matt Martin]

I just like fjords. Group J Argentina, Algeria, Austria and Jordan.

[Myron Metcalf]

Are you going to do that every time? Are you going to say Argentina that way? Because that. That just is not helping. But I mean, you haven't done that for any other country we've mentioned so far.

[Matt Martin]

I like saying Argentina, but, like, I don't.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know, man.

[Matt Martin]

Okay, so Argentina, Algeria, Austria and Jordan.

[Myron Metcalf]

Jordan, Austria, Right.

[Matt Martin]

With Mac and all that. Which one of those would you want to visit?

[Myron Metcalf]

Argentina.

[Matt Martin]

Probably Argent. Me too. I think I would want to visit Argentina as well. I think that would be the most fun place. The group. Group K is Portugal. The Democratic Republic of Congo, Uzbekistan and Colombia.

[Myron Metcalf]

Listen, man, I was. I was in a. I was at a place again buying jerseys, and I was looking at this Columbia jersey and this woman's like, hey, I'm from Columbia. Like, yes, I bought the jersey because I was like, oh, cool. And I have a Columbia jersey. So I have to go with Colombia.

[Matt Martin]

I'm going to go with Colombia too. I think Colombia is my. Is my dark horse for the entire World Cup. I like Colombia. And if I were to visit one of those places, I've been To Portugal. I don't think with all that's going on, Congo or Uzbekistan is the place. So I'm going to say Colombia, both to win and to visit. Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

Columbia. You know what they have down there? Hippos. Do you know hippos? They've got a hippo problem.

[Matt Martin]

I was worried you were going to say something else, so I'm glad you. I'm glad you said. I'm actually glad you said hippos. I was very worried that there was going to be something else come out of your mouth.

[Myron Metcalf]

They have a hippo problem from Pablo Escobar.

[Matt Martin]

Oh, yeah. Cuz he got all of them. And then they like went and bred and all that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Brought in these two hippos illegally.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

And now they have. It's the only place with feral hippos, I believe outside I've seen that.

[Matt Martin]

And hippos like, you don't want to mess with a hippo.

[Myron Metcalf]

They destroy everything.

[Matt Martin]

Like people think of Hungry. Hungry hippo is like a cute thing because of the game. Don't mess with the hippo. They will mess you up. Watch out for the hippos. Final group. Group L. England. Croatia. Ghana and Panama.

[Myron Metcalf]

England for sure. Right. England's got to be the favorite.

[Matt Martin]

England's probably the favorite there. Although there, you know, Ghana has had a lot of successes. Beaten America a lot in the World Cup.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I'll pick England to win.

[Matt Martin]

I'm going to take England. And then as far as visit, I'm going to say Croatia because of the beaches. But I will note Panama has the only spot in the world where you can stand in one place and see the sunset on the right, on the east and set in the west from the same spot.

[Myron Metcalf]

How does that. Oh, really?

[Matt Martin]

Because it's so narrow and it sits right there. You can get on top of a mountain and you can see them both.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay. Yeah, I was going to pick Ghana, but I'm going with that. I like those kinds of things.

[Matt Martin]

You'd like to go to Panama and see that spot where you could just sit. If you sit there all day, you could watch it, do both things.

[Myron Metcalf]

I want to go to that spot.

[Matt Martin]

Sure. All right. There you go. There's your World cup preview, including Myron's Go around the World. That would be a good show. Send you to Senegal and you show us around and help us learn. The country.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'd be in. I'd be in. Yeah. For sure.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

All right.

[Matt Martin]

Well, by the way, World cup coverage, it begins on Thursday. The first game is at 3 o' clock in Mexico as Mexico will play South Korea. Now the NBA Finals comes back Monday. Of course, the NHL finals comes back on Tuesday. We're going to get you ready for all those. And big day in college baseball as more teams book their ticket to Omaha. That's all next here on Matt Myon on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance,

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[Matt Martin]

smack Myron here on ESPN Radio. Tomorrow night back to the NBA Finals. What are the chances they win the spurs tomorrow night? Myron, like keep the series going. I mean, I think if the Knicks win tomorrow, it's over. So what are the chances the spurs get it and make it competitive?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think they're good. I mean, they should have won this last game. They should have won game two. They were never positioned to do that. So I don't think there's like a significant advantage that the Knicks have beyond Karl Anthony Towns playing like an mvp, the maturity and experience. But nothing would surprise me in game three.

[Matt Martin]

But what about the crowd? I mean, if you couldn't win with your home crowd all wearing the fluorescent colors of the spurs rainbow, why would you be able to win as it is in New York?

[Myron Metcalf]

Because it's going to be a Hamptons crowd.

[Matt Martin]

It's like you're so down on this crowd.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's not, it's not. It's. I've been to Lakers. It feels like a Lakers game. I've been to Lakers games with Khloe, Kim Kardashian and Bad Bunny and all these other. It's a different atmosphere and I don't think it's going to feel like a regular season.

[Matt Martin]

But it hasn't felt like that in the rest of the playoffs. You just think this is going to be Fundamentally different in this next round, Matt.

[Myron Metcalf]

11,000 to get in the door.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah, but people who had ticket. I mean, you're right about that if you're trying to buy it on the secondary market. But for people who were seasoned ticket holders who already had tickets, they're the ones that have those tickets.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I mean, I just think it's going to be different than what we've seen to this point. The way people are talking about it. I think it's going to be a very exclusive crowd. That's not. Those are real Knicks fans. Don't. Don't get me wrong. The Ben Stillers and those guys, I just.

[Matt Martin]

If you're a season ticket holder, would you sell for this game?

[Myron Metcalf]

Let's say you have.

[Matt Martin]

Let's say you're like, you know, I mean, it would be hard to have season tickets and be like working. But let's say you have, you know, Myron money. Okay, good. Myron money. And you have a chance to go to this game, which you. Who knows if you'll ever see an NBA Finals game again in New York, or you can sell for 8 to $10,000 and watch somewhere else. What are you doing?

[Myron Metcalf]

A real fan, especially if you're going with someone like, that's important to you. I wouldn't sell in those circumstances. You can make more money, but you can't have that experience. As a season ticket holder.

[Matt Martin]

No.

[Myron Metcalf]

As someone who just happened to get a couple of tickets somehow and now they're worth 11,000 a piece.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm selling if I don't have a tie to the team like that and it's not like this magical moment.

[Matt Martin]

So how much is the. Let's say you're a true die hard Knicks fan. What is the amount of money you part it with? Not 8 or 10. What about 15?

[Myron Metcalf]

Nah, it has to be 25.

[Matt Martin]

30s.

[Myron Metcalf]

It has to be 25 to 30.

[Matt Martin]

25,000. You're gonna walk away from this moment that you've looked for the rest of your life?

[Myron Metcalf]

Maybe. It'd have to be into the six. It'd have to be enough to where you figures. It had to be enough to where you're like, okay, I missed this, but now I'm good for a good stretch. It had to be a lot more than that. I would think.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

Pretty significant.

[Matt Martin]

I agree with you. Now, let's say. I don't know if I'd say that much. I'd probably sell it for less than that. But let's say that they win. Where does Jalen Brunson then rank amongst sort of New York. Like, okay, so who is the New York, like, top five players in terms of beloved athletes in New York? Help me out with this. Would this be what, Jeter.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, Jeter's in his own.

[Matt Martin]

So Jeter category. Who's the list right now? Like, if you were to say New York fans, these are our five most beloved athletes that are living, who would it be?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, I think Jeters number one.

[Matt Martin]

Rivera.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I think Clyde Frazier, you know, does the games.

[Matt Martin]

Is Clifford Frazier. Rivera.

[Myron Metcalf]

Ewing. Rivera.

[Matt Martin]

Giant. Is there a giant?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think Eli is still loved by people.

[Matt Martin]

Consider. I don't think they consider Eli a New Yorker. Like, I think they consider these other people in New Yorker. I think Eli, they love him, but he's not a New Yorker.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, winning two championships over the pace. I. I think Eli is New York. I think they see him as, I don't know, you know the joke.

[Matt Martin]

Is there a hockey. Like, is there a Messier?

[Myron Metcalf]

Messier? Probably. I probably think Messier is probably the

[Matt Martin]

guy who was the. Who was the goalie during all of that. Is he. He was, yeah. I don't know.

[James]

What about. What about Lundquist? Lundquist.

[Matt Martin]

Lundquist. That's what I was saying. So I actually think Lundquist over Messier because Luncus played there for big.

[James]

Never won there, though.

[Matt Martin]

But let's just say if Jalen Brunson gets on, like, if Jalen Brunson wins, is he now on that list?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think he's right behind Jeter for this generation. You think he's number two for this generation? I don't think anybody overtakes Jeter. Jeet is just there. Jeter, but I think right behind him. And I think in terms of the current faces, we didn't even mention Aaron Judge, by the way.

[Matt Martin]

Current. Oh, that's true.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. How did we not mention Jalen Brunson Would be something completely different? I just think not even just the king of New York, one of the faces of the league. Maybe the face of the league if he can take New York to a championship. But he'd be the biggest thing in New York City and he would be.

[Matt Martin]

Is there no. Met. No. Matt, you put on there.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, the Daryl Strawberries that. I don't know if those guys.

[Matt Martin]

I don't know if they have.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know how they're viewed.

[Matt Martin]

Keith Hernandez, maybe Keith Hernandez.

[Myron Metcalf]

Maybe Keith Hernandez is in that. But I think Jalen Brunson for a social media generation, unfortunately, you know, a lot of people say, well, no, One goes over Patrick Ewing. As great as Patrick going was, he didn't win.

[Matt Martin]

Oh, I think if Jalen wins, he's over Patrick Ewing.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, I think I like that, though.

[Matt Martin]

Why not?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, because Ewing was.

[Matt Martin]

Those are the same people who would have said, like, you can't put Jeter over Don Mattingly. Yeah, but then you did. Once Jeter won. He's over Don Mattingly at that point. People love Don Mattingly, but Don Mattingly never won. Jeter did. I think if Jalen Brunson wins, he overtakes Ewing in beloved. Now, that doesn't mean he's the greatest, Nick. Right. I think that's a different conversation. But if you're just talking about the most beloved, I think he would jumping.

[Myron Metcalf]

This generation will call him the greatest. There's a bunch of people under the age of 45.

[Matt Martin]

Do you think. I mean, do you think he would be, even if they win this, the greatest? Nick?

[Myron Metcalf]

There's an argument. There's definitely an argument. Again, Clyde Frazier won two, and he was really good. Willis Reed, playing on a broken leg, had really big numbers.

[Matt Martin]

And all those guys on the 70 teams, like Bill Bradley, Dave Bing.

[Myron Metcalf]

But this generation doesn't know those guys, and that's nothing against them.

[Matt Martin]

That's true.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think Brunson being the number one guy in New York City right now, in a social media generation would just elevate him to a whole different plateau. Now, if he had more personality, it'd be even more obvious. That's the only thing that I think may hold him back a little bit. He doesn't really have a ton of personality, but he's. He's gonna be.

[Matt Martin]

Where would. Where would Carl be?

[Myron Metcalf]

Right behind him. I mean, for this generation. For this generation, if they went and you said, hey, Patrick Ewing or Carl Towns, that may sound crazy.

[Matt Martin]

Sounds crazy to me, and I love Carl Towns. I mean, that's a Kentucky guy. But. But Ewing is. I mean, when I think Knicks, to me, my lifetime, it's Patrick Ewing. Right?

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm with you. Patrick Ewing is one of the greatest centers of all time. It wouldn't be on my list, but I think especially the immediate aftermath of this, if they pull it off and Carl Townes continues to play like this. Patrick Ewing never did this. Like, no one has ever witnessed a big man carry a team since Willis Reed to a championship. We replaced those guys. It's unfortunate, but eventually we go, okay, that was a different era. And I think that would happen in this situation.

[Matt Martin]

What do you think New York City would be like for the parade.

[Myron Metcalf]

The greatest parade we have ever seen. I was living in New York for the Puerto Rican Day parade one year.

[Matt Martin]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Myron Metcalf]

Because there's no city that does parades.

[Matt Martin]

Like, that's true. They love New York. Does parades on parade for no reason. Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

So it would be incredible to do.

[Matt Martin]

I'm just trying to picture. I remember the last major. I remember the Rangers parade right in the 90s when they won for the first time. It was on that famous day with the O.J. chase and the. And all of that. And that was one of the great spectacles because they hadn't won it in forever. I think if they have a Knicks parade like, that could be the best day in the city. Since when? I don't know. Since World War II ended. I mean, literally, like, what would be. No, but it'd be better now because you've had to wait 50 years.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, it would be. It'd be intense. And now this is a team that, again, they. What, 15 years ago, was that last Super Bowl? I believe 2011.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah, but the jet. The thing about it is, the thing about New York is in the New York, the Yankees and the Mets split the city. The jets and the Giants split the city. Even the Rangers and the Devils split the city. But the no.

[Myron Metcalf]

1 roots for Brooklyn, it's all the Knicks.

[Matt Martin]

It's all Knicks. The only thing that unifies the city 100% is the Knicks. The other sports, they love them, but then there are people that don't. But when it comes to the Knicks, everyone loves them. And I think that's why it'll be so great.

[Myron Metcalf]

But that's. But that's why I just want to. You can keep the tickets. Take me to the Bronx. Take me to a street party in the Bronx somewhere. People watching this. That's where I would want to see it. I would want to watch it in such an authentic place and celebrating with fans who have been waiting on this moment, who can't afford to get into these doors because who can. That, to me, is going to be an epic experience and without the hassle, by the way, potentially, of a Game four situation.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah, well, we will see. I think. I think if it ends up. If they win in four or in Game six, if they win, when it's in New York, you know, forget about it. I mean, it's going to be. It will be one of the great scenes in the history of American sports. It really will. In a city like New York now, there's other games to go on including the College World. See. Do you like watching college baseball? It's an absolute cluster. Do you enjoy it?

[Myron Metcalf]

I watched the women's softball too. Yeah, it's fun.

[Matt Martin]

Already in the College World Series as West Virginia and Troy. How about Troy has made the College World Series the only their stadium Myron only holds 500 people and they've made the College World Series. We will pick all those games and more. That's next here on Matt Myron Matt

[Myron Metcalf]

and Myron the Podcast.

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[Matt Martin]

It's Matt Martin here on ESPN Radio. Life is a highway. Myron Metcalf is going to ride it all night Long as will we. And we got baseball tonight. What's the game, James? The ESPN game tonight. Is it Cubs?

[James]

It is. Cubs host the Giants at 7:30 Eastern on ESPN Radio.

[Matt Martin]

Cubs had a rough run of it here lately, but maybe they can get it back on track. But before we do that, we have to tell you about who's going to win lots of games around the country. It's time for take your pick.

[Myron Metcalf]

Take your pick.

[Matt Martin]

You take your pick.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's time to take your pick with Matt and Myron.

[Matt Martin]

What a huge week of sports coming. NBA Finals, NHL Finals, college baseball, World Series will start up. The World cup starts up, all kinds of stuff. And you can't go into that week without knowing who's going to win. So, James, let's get started. Let's take our pick.

[James]

Yeah, let's start with the NBA. Game 3 will be Monday between the spurs and the Knicks. The Knicks are up 20 in the series, heading back to Madison Square Garden. As we talked about all day, you'll be able to hear that right here on ESPN Radio on Monday. Conference begins at 7:30 Eastern. Knicks are two and a half point favorites. Who you got here?

[Matt Martin]

I kind of think the spurs win this one. I mean, it'd be a very rare series. Very rarely see the road team win three straight games. But I just have a hard time seeing Wimby's group going down three. Oh, every game has been winnable for the Spurs. They just haven't done it. I wonder if pressure kind of gets the Knicks in this one. I think the win game four, but I'm going to say the spurs win game three to send it to San Antonio for game five.

[Myron Metcalf]

Myron, it feels like there's only one or two scenarios. A Knicks blowout by like 20 or the spurs kind of win a close one.

[Matt Martin]

I could see that.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I'll go with the spurs when the close one just because we saw them face adversity against OKC and they bounce back to make it competitive and then eventually the win. So I'll take the spurs, but it won't shock me if the Knicks find a way to sweep them because the maturity and just all the other factors in that.

[Matt Martin]

What's next?

[James]

Heartbreaking loss for your Hurricanes last night in double overtime. Matt. Game that series is. The Gold Knights are up to one in that series now. Game four is in Vegas on Tuesday. You can see it on ABC television. The Golden Knights are slightly favored in this one.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah, I mean, I've watched this whole series. I'm obviously a Hurricanes Fan. I think the Gold Knights are better, but anything can happen in these games. I think these teams are close. I'm going to say the Golden Knights win and go up 3 1. Then I think the Hurricanes will win game five and we'll see what happens at the six. But I'm going to take the Golden Knights to win. I really had the opinion last night that whoever won that game was going to end up winning the series. The Knights won, and so unfortunately, I'll pick Las Vegas.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, this feels like a series where if you tell me that Carolina is going to start the game the way that they've managed to finish it, I'm going to pick Carolina. Like, to me, it's a matter of we know what they're capable of, but can you come out the gate and play that way? I think they will in this game. Advantage Carolina. If they dictate the pace of this game, give me Carolina to win.

[Matt Martin]

I hope you're right. I would love to see it. Like I said, I have tickets to game seven if we can get there. But I'm worried we may not. May not get there. What's next?

[James]

Series has been nuts, like comebacks and everything to watch.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah. I don't know how anyone couldn't say this has been one of the best hockey, one of the best sporting series three games through I've ever seen, but go ahead.

[James]

All right. You said the World cup begins this week. The United States plays Paraguay on Friday at 9pm who do you got in this one?

[Matt Martin]

I'm excited about this one. Just because It's Friday at 9pm they made it to where you could get as many people watching as possible. It doesn't feel like the country has completely locked in to the World cup yet. I think they will. For this one, I'm going to call it. I'm going to make a weird thing. I'm going to say a draw, Myron. Let's say a draw for. For game one for the United States.

[Myron Metcalf]

This is one of those weeks where I'm like, what do you do if you're not a sports fan? You know, like, I feel like you're just missing so much to have this kind of be another thing that we get to pay attention to and enjoy. I'll pick the United States. I mean, I think, you know, to be able to kick off the World cup at home, I think they'll live up to the. Maybe the pressure that comes.

[Matt Martin]

Do you know the capital of Paraguay, who we play? I'll ask the three of you. Can either because it's a hard one. Can. This is a South American country. Can any of you name the capital of Paraguay?

[James]

No, I can.

[Matt Martin]

I cannot. But Myron is the self proclaimed geography expert. Okay, There you go, Myron. The capital of Paraguay.

[Myron Metcalf]

Can you give me the first letter, A? Can you give me the second letter, S?

[James]

Could you just spell it for him, please?

[Myron Metcalf]

Asalinka.

[Matt Martin]

Is it a Salenka? No.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[James]

That's not even a tennis player.

[Matt Martin]

Yeah, that's not even. That's Asuncion.

[Myron Metcalf]

I was close.

[Matt Martin]

No, you. There was. You weren't in the ballpark.

[James]

You had the first two letters.

[Matt Martin]

Yes. By the way, just so you know, Asuncion is the capital. Paraguay was founded by the Spanish in 1537. And Asuncion means mother of cities.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, National Geographic fact from Matt Jones.

[Matt Martin]

I'm trying to help people learn. In addition, I mean, unlike you, it's not just opinions. I want to give people knowledge.

[Myron Metcalf]

Do you really want to be a tour guide or something? Like it's your dream?

[Matt Martin]

Here's the thing. I enjoy the World cup because it gives us a chance to. To learn about the world beyond our borders. Sometimes we have a very close. Now you learn about Asuncion. And it's the. And what's the. What's it mean again, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

The mother.

[Matt Martin]

The mother of all cities. That's right.

[James]

What's next appropriate for capital.

[Matt Martin]

That's exactly right.

[James]

Plus 245 on DraftKings for a draw in US Parallel. I like that one, by the way. Let's head to Major League Baseball. Your Reds with Rhett louder on the mound against the Cardinals Today with Michael McGreevey. The Cardinals are favorite on the money line. They're minus 156. Who you got here?

[Matt Martin]

Michael McGreevey. Sounds like a villain in an 80s sitcom.

[James]

The High School Bully.

[Matt Martin]

There's old Michael McGreevey again. What a jerk. I'm going to take the Reds. Even though we've been awful, I feel like we're do one in this series. Plus who. You can't let old nasty Michael McGreevey win a game. Give me the Reds.

[Myron Metcalf]

Like when they bring the fingerprints back and they're like, who to come up as Michael Grievy. I will. I'm actually going to take the Reds.

[Matt Martin]

All right, good. We needed it. What's next?

[James]

All right, Myron's brewers with Shane Drone on the mound against the Rockies with Kyle Freeland on the mound. The brewers are favorite on the money line. Minus 1. 86. Who you got here?

[Matt Martin]

I'll take The Brewers. I. You know, I don't know one Rockies player. I can't even remember the last time I watched a Rockies game. Honestly, I think Todd Hilton was playing the last time I watched. Maybe Larry Walker was the last time I watched a Rockies game. I'm going to go ahead and take the Brewers.

[Myron Metcalf]

James, did you call them the brewers or the best team in baseball?

[James]

No, just the Brewers.

[Myron Metcalf]

Also known as the best team in baseball.

[James]

I think it's just the Brewers.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Matt Martin]

Well, I like the guy. Your guy, Jason Jacob, the Miz, he wouldn't hold the manager. Get out. I'm going to finish this game. I'm going to keep pitching. Then he had two strikeouts. He very. He emasculated. That man just complete. The manager.

[Myron Metcalf]

He throws a thousand miles an hour. What are you talking to him for?

[Matt Martin]

What's next?

[James]

Yeah, I have one more at Sunday Night Baseball. You can see it, hear it right here on ESPN radio. Comes weekends at 7 o'. Clock. Giants with Trevor McDonald on the mound against the Cubs with Jameson Tyon.

[Matt Martin]

I'll take Jameson in the Cubs. Who you got? Myron.

[Myron Metcalf]

Reluctantly, I'll pick the Cubs.

[Matt Martin]

All right. By the way, if you decide Myron, to go to Asuncion, $1 of American money will buy you 6,000, 104 Paraguayan guarani.

[Myron Metcalf]

I can't do this exchange rate thing. What?

[Matt Martin]

I'm just trying to.

[Myron Metcalf]

You have investments in all these cities, don't you?

[Matt Martin]

I do. I'm very strong on the Paraguay offshore accounts. Offshore? What do you think I do? Game day is next with Zaslow and Asasution here. This is Ben ESPN Radio.

[Myron Metcalf]

Thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10:00am Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, and on SiriusXM Channel 80. Matt and Myron the pod.

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