Hour 3: King of the Mountain

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Hosts: Myron Medcalf, Matt Jones
Date: August 24, 2025
Episode: Hour 3: King of the Mountain
Theme: Wide-Ranging Sports Hot Takes, MLB Storylines, and Cultural Commentary

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Overview

In this episode, Matt and Myron bring their signature mix of humor, insight, and listener interaction to break down the week in sports. The hour is anchored by their "King of the Mountain" segment, where listeners call in with their boldest takes on current sports topics, vying for weekly supremacy and the right to dethrone the reigning king. The show also dives into Major League Baseball’s playoff picture, quirky nickname origins, and some playful debates about music groups and WNBA storylines.

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King of the Mountain: Listener Hot Takes (00:33–16:39)

Segment Purpose

• Aim: Energize Sunday listeners by opening the phone lines for 30-second "hot takes" exclusively on sports topics (no politics or controversy).
• Prize: The top take of the day faces off with the reigning "King of the Mountain," a title held for several weeks.

Current Reigning Take (Russ from Indiana) (02:23)

• Take: Both Nebraska football and Indiana basketball fans are “the McRibs that think they’re prime ribs.”

  • “They haven’t been relevant since the Clinton administration and they still think they’re great. And they’re not.”
    — Russ (02:23–02:46)

• Hosts’ Response:

  • Matt: “First of all, it stated a truth...But then he illustrated his proof with an analogy.”
  • Myron: “Are we grading on substance? Yes. But also stage presence matters a lot.”

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Call-in Contenders & Commentary

1. Charlotte from Michigan (03:59)

• Take: Concern over agents and NFL contract negotiations, referencing Micah Parsons.
• Hosts' Feedback: Too scattered for 30 seconds; encouraged brevity and focus, but applauded participation.

2. Mike from Florida (05:15)

• Take: Irony of Urban Meyer questioning Jim Harbaugh’s integrity.
• Notable Moment: Rambled, ended with a mysterious reference (“He’s the Malcolm”), confusing the hosts.
  • Myron: “Was he gonna say Malcolm X or...?”
  • Matt: “Actually, I would like to hear 30 seconds of why Urban Meyer is like Malcolm X in here.”

3. Sheldon from Missouri (07:01)

• Take: The Arizona Cardinals will be the NFL’s last undefeated team, citing offensive additions and a "soft" schedule.
  • “Their schedule is softer than Charmin right now, so I think they’re going to be the last undefeated team.”
    — Sheldon (07:01–07:34)
• Hosts’ Critique: Impressed by details, suggested he should have led with the schedule analysis.

4. David from Alabama (08:13)

• Take: Nepotism in sports—Shiloh and Shador Sanders, Bronny James, and privilege not equaling greatness.
  • “Parents, there is nothing wrong telling your children that they’re good, but don’t fill their head with so much clout that they feel that they’re going to be the best…”
    — David (08:13–08:51)
• Host Reaction: Matt: “I kind of like that one. I’m not gonna lie to you. First of all, I agree with him…there’s nothing worse than, than a rich kid ever.”

5. Steve from New Jersey (09:49)

• Take: Sean McDermott is a top 3–5 coach who is “constantly disrespected.”
• Hosts' Response: Questioned premise—who is actually disrespecting McDermott? Hotter take would be “best coach in football.”

6. Jam (DJ Jazzy Jam) from Washington (10:57)

• Take: Disillusionment as a Cowboys fan, referencing “The Real World”—“when people stop being polite and start getting real.”
  • “I think this is the year where people just stop watching [the Cowboys]. It’s not going to be good.”
    — Jam (11:58–12:32)
• Hosts’ Reaction: Enjoyed Real World allusion; noted despair of Cowboys fans resonated.

7. Josh from St. Louis (12:56)

• Take: Ohio State vs. Michigan is the best rivalry in all of sports.
• Hosts' Feedback: Not debated enough to qualify as a hot take.

Segment Wrap-Up: Picking the Best Call (14:14–16:29)

• Finalists: Sheldon (Cardinals), David (Nepotism), Jam (Cowboys collapse)

• Winner: David from Alabama for the passionate "nepotism" rant.

  • Myron: “Nepotism dude had the most passion. I’ll go with passion.”
  • Matt: “I might have to go with nepotism guy. The Cardinals guy had a unique argument…Cowboys guy… I don’t think that’s gonna happen.”

• Ultimate Result: The “McRib vs. prime rib” Nebraska/Indiana take remains King of the Mountain for a fourth straight week.

  • Myron: “Nobody’s beating McRib for me...that’s still the hottest take.” (15:29)
  • Matt: “By the end, [nepotism guy] was just kind of screaming. And I don’t want to encourage people just to scream...We will keep the McRib.” (15:41)

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Cultural Corner: The Beach Boys, Legacy Bands & Double Standards (18:28–24:39)

Summary

• Matt describes overhearing a Beach Boys concert—wonders about authenticity when none of the original members remain.

  • Matt: “Do you think you should be able to keep having the Beach Boys if there are no Beach Boys left?” (19:54)

• Myron says the same standards might not apply to groups like the Blind Boys of Alabama.

  • Myron: “We don’t have enough bands to be changing names. Like, we gotta keep ours going.” (21:50)

• Matt highlights the double standard and presses Myron.

  • Matt: “You see you are caught in your hypocrisy and you do not want to call it.” (22:13)

Memorable exchange:

• Myron: “I just know my lanes, you know, I just know.” (21:44)
• Matt: “How are they different?” (21:50)

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Major League Baseball: Playoff Storylines and Surprises (24:39–34:47)

Key Points

• Red Sox Dominance Over Yankees (24:40–25:25)

  • Red Sox have beaten the Yankees nine straight times; now ahead in playoff race.
  • Myron: “Boston, New York, Boston going—they’re going in two different directions.” (25:25)

• MLB Wild Card Scenarios (26:07)

  • Dodgers could face Cubs; Yankees could face Red Sox in Wild Card.
  • Matt: “Do you think baseball is rooting for that outcome?”
    • Myron: “No, because they don’t want one of them to get eliminated.” (26:28)

• Zach Wheeler's Injury (Phillies)

  • Matt: “Do you think [losing Wheeler] basically takes Philly out of a chance?” (27:19)
  • Myron: “It’s a challenge…so much about baseball is not just injuries themselves but the timing.” (27:19)

• Surprise Best Records: Brewers, Tigers, Blue Jays

  • Not the “dream scenario” for MLB.
  • Matt & Myron discuss whether America would tune in for a Milwaukee–Toronto World Series.
    • Matt: “If America got a Milwaukee Blue Jays World Series, are they going to watch it?” (29:18)
    • Myron: “If they know what’s good for them…But I think the sport is about local fans.” (29:18–30:39)

• Rise of “Big Sugar” (31:06–34:32)

  • The Reds’ new reliever Zach Maxwell, nickname origin: “I was throwing in a game in college and the guy doing the TV broadcast said I looked like a big old hunk of sugar. And that got shortened down to Big Sugar.” (36:13)
  • Myron theorizes about origins, guessing regional ties (“Tennessee, Louisiana, Mississippi”) and possible charisma with women.
    • Myron: “You see him, he’s a young dude. He’s in his, like, early…to see a dude that size on the mound, I mean, you gotta support that man.” (32:17)
  • Matt: “Would you be upset if you were playing in a game...and the announcer said you look like a big old hunk of sugar?”

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Rapid Fire: Picks and Predictions (37:10–44:44)

Games Analyzed

• MLB: Yankees vs. Red Sox (“Finally the Yankees break the streak…”), Reds vs. Diamondbacks (“Gotta get this victory”), Brewers vs. Giants (“I’m picking Milwaukee and the world should pick Milwaukee…”).
• Little League World Series: Nevada vs. Chinese Taipei
  • Myron: “Some of those Taiwan kids can get into R rated movies right now…”
• WNBA: Indiana Fever vs. Minnesota Lynx, Valkyrie vs. Wings
  • Myron: “Caitlin Clark is still the story, right? ... But the bigger story is going to be playing.”
• Golf: Tommy Fleetwood’s final round chances
  • Matt: “It’d be a great story. I mean, I know not everyone in sports knows who Tommy Fleetwood is, but …he’s right there with the chance to win the Tour Championship.”

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Notable Quotes

“Nebraska and Indiana are McRibs that think they’re prime ribs. They haven’t been relevant since the Clinton administration and they still think they’re great. And they’re not.”
— Russ from Indiana (02:23)

“Parents, there is nothing wrong telling your children that they’re good, but don’t fill their head with so much clout that they feel that they’re going to be the best, the greatest. Better than where you were. Because they won’t. It’s hard to catch lightning in a bottle.”
— David from Alabama (08:13)

“We don’t have enough bands to be changing names. Like, we gotta keep ours going. The Beach Boys, there’s a lot of bands that do that kind of music.”
— Myron Metcalf (21:50)

“Some of those Taiwan kids can get into R rated movies right now.”
— Myron Metcalf (39:44)

“Would you be upset if you were playing in a game in college and the announcer said you look like a big old hunk of sugar?”
— Matt Jones (36:29)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• King of the Mountain call-ins: 00:33–16:39
• Cultural/legacy band debate: 18:28–24:39
• MLB playoff discussion: 24:39–34:47
• Big Sugar nickname origins: 31:06–36:13
• Take Your Pick (game predictions): 37:10–44:44

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Tone & Style

Playful, irreverent, fast-paced, and occasionally self-deprecating—Matt and Myron riff off both sports culture and each other, combining deep knowledge with a conversational, accessible delivery.

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Summary — Why Listen?

This episode offers a high-energy snapshot of fan culture, the quirks and passions of sports radio, and a smart but easygoing look at the MLB playoff race. Through segments like King of the Mountain and Take Your Pick, listeners are as much a part of the show as the hosts—proving that, for Matt and Myron, Sunday mornings are truly for the fans.

Transcript

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[Myron Metcalf]

This is Matt and Myron the podcast.

[Matt Schaub]

It's Sunday morning here, Matt Myron on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. It is now time for King of the Mountain. Now if you're not a regular listener, Sunday morning. Matt Myron, first of all, what is wrong with you? But now you're here and that's what matters. So here's what we do. Every Sunday at noon, it's King of the Mountain. You give your hot take on the world of sports. You have 30 seconds. Seconds actually we have, we have we gotten it. Is it still 30 or did we go down to 25? Let's do 30. Give people a chance to feel themselves. Yeah, you have 30 seconds to say what you have to say about the world of sports. A good take or anything else. Except don't get into controversial stuff, but just sports. Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

Politics or anything.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah, no politics, none of that stuff. And then whoever gets it the best wins the week. And then we put you up against the King of the mountain, which is the take that's been the hottest in the last few weeks. Now eventually we're going to have a championship belt for this, but we don't have it right now. So the first. So right now, 8, 8, 8. Say ESPN. 30 seconds. This is your chance to get heard. This is your chance to get known. This is your chance to be ESPN's king of the mountain for a week. So eight, eight, eight, say ESPN. Let me while you're getting people, let's start with and let's play our current King of the Mountain coming into this weekend.

[Myron Metcalf]

Call now with your hottest takes.

[Caller]

Hello.

[Myron Metcalf]

And then Matt and Myron will announce the hot all.

[Matt Schaub]

Is his destiny going to be fulfilled?

[Caller]

My destiny awakens.

[Matt Schaub]

This is the King of the Mountain champion.

[Myron Metcalf]

The king of the Mountain.

[Matt Schaub]

Ladies and gentlemen, your winner and new king of the mountain. Let's go to Russ in Indiana. It's a boring state, so maybe he's had time to come up with something good. Go Russ.

[Caller]

The Nebraska fan base and the Indiana fan base in basketball. Nebraska and football are the most open rated teams in College. In college sports, they are the McRibs that think that they're prime ribs. They haven't been relevant since the Clinton administration and they still think they're great. And they're not.

[Matt Schaub]

I loved it. First of all, it stated a truth. Nebraska and Indiana are mid when it comes to sports. But then he illustrated his proof with an analogy. Their prime ribs that think they're McRibs that is held for three weeks as the king of the mountain. We'll see if it holds up again.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's a good line, though, man. I mean, so for the people calling in, like, remember, are we grading on substance? Yes. But also stage presence matters a lot. If you give us a line. Style that matters.

[Matt Schaub]

It doesn't. Like, don't try. You don't have to try to be too funny. You. You don't even have to try to be funny.

[Myron Metcalf]

You just gotta be memorable.

[Matt Schaub]

Memorable. There you go. I got to go away and go. Because like today we. I hadn't been on the show in a couple weeks and I was like, hey, what's the king of the mountain? He's like the. The McRib thing. Oh, of course. Gotcha.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Schaub]

Mike from Indiana is the king of the mountain. Let's get started. This may be our first woman attempt to join the king of the mountain. I'd love to have more. It can be. That could be a queen of the mountain. It could be Myron Charlotte from Michigan. Charlotte. 30 seconds. Cam, you've got the buzzer ready for the clock?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I got it.

[Matt Schaub]

All right, let's go, Charlie. Let's go.

[Caller]

Hi. I have two comments. One on the mark, both on the marker pythons of it all. I want to know who is the adult in the room. Matt Schaub had a comment today. Yesterday. Sorry about trying to get the agent David Malligetta and Michael Parsons to file an agreement because there are rules about negotiating contracts in the NFL. 2. I'm not sure how. How long lasting the contract itself is.

[Matt Schaub]

All right, couple things, Charlotte. First of all, I want to encourage our female queen of the mountain participants. You started by calling Marca. That's okay. Sometimes you get nervous out of the gate. You got him. Micah later. But they. You did. You did. You got to be concise. You got to be hard hit.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Schaub]

You have to come in and you have to go bam. And the two points. Probably 30 seconds could be hard to get two points in.

[Myron Metcalf]

I can't do.

[Matt Schaub]

Probably can't do it. So I don't think you're going to win this One. But I like the effort. Charlotte, hopefully you'll join us again in the future. 888, say ESPN. Let's go to Mike in Florida. Go.

[Caller]

Yeah. Urban Meyer questioning Harbaugh's integrity is something coming from a guy who, instead of flying back with the team, had a lap dance with a girl his daughter's age, got kicked a player and got fired. When he was at Florida, he protected a future murderer, protected a child. I mean, a wife abuser. Then took an Ohio State and protected him there, too, and lied and got suspended. When he left Florida, he said the program was broken. And this is also, you know, to me, he's the Malcolm.

[Matt Schaub]

Okay. All right.

[Myron Metcalf]

Malcolm.

[Matt Schaub]

I don't know who Malcolm. The Malcolm's. I know.

[Myron Metcalf]

Hey, I don't know what Malcolm. He was talking about that. Was he gonna say the take was. There was some solid points, but then he ended with the Malcolm.

[Matt Schaub]

Too many things.

[Myron Metcalf]

Was he gonna say Malcolm X or.

[Matt Schaub]

Well, I don't know. It was. Who are the Malcolms? X, Jamal Warner, Rest in peace.

[Myron Metcalf]

A lot of Malcolm in the Middle. Those are three.

[Matt Schaub]

Where?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know.

[Matt Schaub]

That's free.

[Myron Metcalf]

It kind of ends the tape.

[Matt Schaub]

I think they're kind of positive. Ex Jamal Warner. And in the middle. I don't know.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I don't know. But Urban Meyer, compared to any of those, I don't really know how that works. That's the one thing.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah. Actually, I would like to hear 30 seconds of why Urban Meyer is like Malcolm X in here. Anyway. I don't know.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, that part. That's. Yeah, that. That part.

[Matt Schaub]

We didn't. We didn't land on Gainesville. Gainesville landed on us.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know what.

[Matt Schaub]

I don't know what he meant. Let's go to Sheldon from Missouri. Sheldon, 30 seconds. Go.

[Caller]

All right, I'm going to keep it real simple for you guys. The Arizona Cardinals will be the last undefeated team in the NFL this year with looking at the improvements that they'll make on the offensive side of the ball with Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison Jr. Trey McBride. That speaks to itself. But the defense is going to be way better than everybody's expecting. Adding Calais Campbell, adding Walter Nolan III and Josh Sweat. Their schedule is softer than Charman right now, so I think they're going to be the last undefeated team.

[Matt Schaub]

Okay. On paper, when he said the first sentence, I thought that was a wild thing to say. He mentioned the schedule. If it were me, I would have led with the schedule because here's who they play to start the season. Saints, Panthers, 49ers, Seahawks, Titans, Colts. I mean, it's not crazy, Byron.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's not crazy.

[Matt Schaub]

But you should have read schedule, Sheldon, because I actually think the schedule. But right now, Sheldon's the leader, so leave him on the list there. He's the leader for today. Let's go to David in Alabama. Go ahead, David.

[Caller]

Guys, great show as always. I just want to bring a few names up real quick. Shador Sanders, Shiloh Sanders. Ronnie James. What do they have in common, gentlemen? Nepotism at its finest. Look what happened to Michael Jordan sons when they tried to play jack squat. Barry Sanders son. Nothing. Parents, there is nothing wrong telling your children that they're good, but don't fill their head with so much clout that they feel that they're going to be the best, the greatest. Better than where you were. Because they won't. It's hard to catch lightning in a bottle.

[Matt Schaub]

I kind of like that one. I'm not going to lie to you. First of all, I agree with him. There's nothing worse than, than a rich kid ever. I don't know that I would say that. Like, I don't. I don't know. I thought that one was pretty good. Myron, what did you think?

[Myron Metcalf]

It was passionate. You know, the Shador, Shiloh, Bronnie. I mean, those are all separate, I would say cases, but.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah, I mean, but there are all situations where I think their parents were told they were better than they were. Right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. That probably happened a lot more with the Sanders than Bronnie, but it was. He was passionate.

[Matt Schaub]

Well, I mean, he was a reserve in college that declared for the draft. Yeah, that's true. I mean, come on, let's put David from Alabama up there with Sheldon. We'll. We'll figure out today's winner in a minute. I think he's at least a contender. Let's go to Steve from New Jersey. 30 seconds. Go.

[Caller]

What's up, fellas? All right. Sean McDermott is a top three to five coach in the NFL. He's constantly disrespected. Okay? He has the second best record, only behind the best coach, andy Reid, since 2020. He took over in the Bills in 2017, snapped a 17 year playoff drought. Year one with Tyrod Taylor, and this man beat John Harboff two straight times head to head in the playoffs. And he's constantly disrespected. It's disgusting. He's the second, third best coach in the NFL. Bottom line.

[Matt Schaub]

All right, thank you, Steve.

[Myron Metcalf]

So my challenge.

[Matt Schaub]

Go with that one. Because who's disrespecting McDermott?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, and. And the hot take would have been, Sean McDermott is the best coach in the league. That would have been the hot.

[Matt Schaub]

But I mean, who's disrespecting that? Like, who's around saying he stinks? Like, I don't.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't believe Shama. I don't think anybody's doing that.

[Matt Schaub]

I don't think anybody's doing that. So I think your premise that he's the most disrespected is just not really true.

[Myron Metcalf]

He's probably in the New York area. And here's more about the jets and Giants than the Bills.

[Matt Schaub]

Maybe so. All right, let's go for the Jam from Washington. Where in Washington are you, Jam?

[Caller]

Yo, DJ Jazzy Jam here, coming out from Tacoma, Washington.

[Matt Schaub]

Wait a minute now, hang on just a second. Okay, you're DJ Jazzy Jam.

[Myron Metcalf]

Is that your name?

[Matt Schaub]

Tacoma, Washington.

[Caller]

You know, I'll be honest with you. It's DJ Jazzy Jeff. But when I called in, the guy said jam, and I said, yeah, sure, I'll go with Jam.

[Matt Schaub]

So wait a minute. You just stole DJ Jazzy Jeff's name?

[Caller]

Well, then I switch it over to Jam, so I think it all works out.

[Matt Schaub]

You know what? If you're gonna steal somebody's identity, DJ Jazzy Jeff's not a bad one. He got left behind by Will Smith, and I've never really forgiven Will for it. Pretty egregious. Just delete behind.

[Myron Metcalf]

He can't be in the movies, too.

[Matt Schaub]

I mean, why not? Why can't he be in the movies? He put him in Fresh Prince. He could have a small role in Independence Day.

[Myron Metcalf]

Nah, that's not how movies work. I don't.

[Matt Schaub]

Okay. All right, go ahead, Jim. 30 seconds.

[Caller]

All right, let me. Let me. Let me start this out. Lifelong Cowboys fan. I'm 37 years old. I've been wandering the desert for a long time, and I want to believe. Every year, I believe. I believe. I believe this year, you know, it goes back. Catch Race from the Real World. What happens when people stop being polite and get real? What happens when the team stops getting entertaining? It stops. It starts to get sad. And I think this is the year where people just stop watching. It's not going to be good. What are they doing? Schottenheimer. They can't even sign Parsons. What?

[Matt Schaub]

All right, I like the Real World lot. I like that. You think, say they're no. Stop watching. I'll tell you what, let's put him up on the list. Too. Okay, put him with Sheldon and David so he's at least a contender for today. All right, Put him up on the top. All right, so we'll do one more and then we'll pick today's winner and then we'll see if they're king of the mountains. Let's go to Josh in St. Louis.

[Caller]

What's up, fellas? Hey. I just want to talk about the number one rivalry in all of sports. It ain't the Yankees and the Red Sox. It ain't my own St. Louis Cardinals and. And the Chicago Cubs. It's Ohio State, Michigan, two of the last national championships. Each one of their stadiums holds more than both of those other teams I've mentioned combined. You're talking about a history that goes 100 plus years. Get out of here with this. This is the best rivalry.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, who's debating that? Like who's.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah, I don't think anybody. Just you may be living films about nobody. When they do the best rivalries, nobody says Cubs, Cardinals. First of all, no one. I mean, you know, they'll do Alabama, Auburn, maybe Duke, Carolina. Nobody's like, Cubs, Cardinals. So I might to take you out. All right, so let's go to our picks here. Which of these three did you like the best? Did you like Sheldon in Missouri who said the Cardinals are going to go undefeated or be the undefeated. The longest? Do you like David in Alabama who said nobody was going to watch the Cowboys anymore? Or did you like Jam in Washington? What did Jam just say? You got to give me the jam.

[Caller]

Had the Cowboys take.

[Myron Metcalf]

He had a Cowboys. Alabama dude had the nepotism thing.

[Matt Schaub]

Nepotism. Okay, so it's Cardinals nepotism, Cowboys. Myron, who do you think is today's winner?

[Myron Metcalf]

Cardinals guy feels like the most reasonable. I mean, there wasn't a lot of passion there, but I think it's probably the most valid take. But nepotism, dude.

[Matt Schaub]

Valid that the Cardinals are going to be under the last team?

[Myron Metcalf]

No, that they. I mean, with the schedule, that is possible. But nepotism dude had the most passion. I'll go with passion. I'm fine with that.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah, I might have to go with nepotism guy. I mean, the Cardinals guy, I think had a very unique argument. Right. I think he had a very unique argument. I think if he had just characterized it differently or put. I think he could have won. The Cowboys guy, I liked what he said and I liked his real world line. But then he came and said, no one's gonna watch him. I don't Think that's gonna happen. So I'm gonna go from David from Alabama. So now, Myron, if David from Alabama is our winner, he did the nepotism thing. And you've got our guy from. From last week who said that Nebraska and Indiana fans were McRib who think they were prime rib. Who, in your opinion is the current king of the mountain?

[Myron Metcalf]

Nobody's beating McRib for me. I mean, that's still the hottest take. And then the McRib line is still our best thing in King of the Mountain. I think he still keeps the title.

[Matt Schaub]

I think this one's tough because I do like the passion with nepotism. But by the end, he was just kind of screaming. And I don't want to encourage people just to scream. And it seemed to offend you. He threw Bronnie in there. And I don't want you to get your feelings hurt because I don't want you. When I play this again next week, I don't want you to have that sad look on your face whenever something bad about Bronnie. So we will keep the McRib. David from Indiana, or excuse me, what was his name From Indiana. Whatever his name was from Indiana, he is, for the fourth straight week, the king of the mountain. We will see if he's able to hold up next week. And you could take him down. How can I not remember his name? What is he.

[Myron Metcalf]

We're gonna do is the NFL season two, by the way.

[Matt Schaub]

Yes. This is going on all year, so don't you. Don't you feel like you will lose it more? Next here on Matt Myron on Sunday morning.

[Myron Metcalf]

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Schaub]

The podcast sounds like a Nintendo game. It's Sunday here on Espionage Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. Oh, it's.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, is that one of them?

[Matt Schaub]

Is this Benson Boone?

[Myron Metcalf]

It's one of those. It's one of those songs y' all used to sing back in them parties in the early 2000s, I feel like.

[Matt Schaub]

So it's not Benson Boone? No, it's not. What do you mean, y'? All? Who's y'? All? Who is this scenario? All American?

[Myron Metcalf]

You know that, that culture.

[Matt Schaub]

Oh yeah. They're the ones that are like going to places and playing pop up shows, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, yeah. And they're like, they're actually selling out arenas now with the. It was a really genius strategy to do that for them.

[Matt Schaub]

They're selling out arenas.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, like they kicked off their, like they started that way and now they're like touring for real. It was a genius.

[Matt Schaub]

I have a question for you real quick. This isn't the topic we have on here, but last night, is it ever. There's a, there's a park that's opened up down the street from where I live and I can like, I can say I can sit on my porch and listen to music. So you're right. I'm one of those guys now. I don't have to pay for the concert. I can hear it. And last night they had the Beach Boys. And when I heard it was going to be the Beach Boys, I was like, beach Boys? I thought they were all dead. And they said no. And then they. I heard no one in the Beach Boys was in the Beach Boys. When they start. Do you think you should be able to keep having the Beach Boys if there are no Beach Boys left.

[Myron Metcalf]

There's no one affiliated with the Originals.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah, like. No, but what if they know? Okay, so. No, but what if it's just, like, just the drummer?

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm not a fan. I think you should be a new band. I mean, now a lot of bands have done that. The Temptations, the. I'm a bit, you know, Blind Boys of Alabama. I don't know anything about them. Like, there's a lot of groups that new, though.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

When. When the people are gone who were in the original group. I think you just got to change the name, you know?

[Matt Schaub]

So how many people. How many Beach Boys need to be in it to still be the Beach Boys? At least two or. Gotta have multiple boys. Okay. Or else it would just be the Beach Boy. That'd be kind of funny. He just. We're only the Beach Boy.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, at least two of them.

[Matt Schaub]

But a lot of boys of Alabama. Are they all still blonde?

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I don't believe so. I don't believe.

[Matt Schaub]

But originally they were blind, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Originally. That's how they started out of School for the Blind.

[Matt Schaub]

So now they're not even blind anymore.

[Myron Metcalf]

Some of. I don't believe all of them are. And I believe. I don't know if there's an. There can't be an original member. They started, like, the 30s.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah. There can't be anymore. So is that okay? Is it okay to have legacy groups where, like, you just keep the name forever or are you, Myer Metcalf, going to come out against the Blind Boys of Alabama?

[Myron Metcalf]

So. Well, now, hold on a second. So apparently, I mean, I don't know. Listen, if there's someone you don't want to apply.

[Matt Schaub]

I see. You what? The standards you're applying to the Beach Boys, you, for cultural reasons, do not want to apply to the Blind Boys of Alabama. Am I correct?

[Myron Metcalf]

I just know my lanes, you know, I just know. I think, not that they're different, but I think there's some.

[Matt Schaub]

How are they. Wait a minute now. How are they different?

[Myron Metcalf]

We don't have enough bands to be changing names. Like, we gotta keep ours going. We can't. We can't just eliminate.

[Matt Schaub]

We don't have enough bands. You're trying to tell me that there are not enough. Stop.

[Myron Metcalf]

Not enough so. But the Beach Boys, there's a lot of bands that do that kind of music.

[Matt Schaub]

So what? What are you talking about? There nobody who's playing surfer music today. There's not. Here's what happened. I caught you in your argument. You do not want to come out and say that the blind boys of Alabama can't do it anymore. But you see you are caught in your hypocrisy and you do not want to call it. Myron Metcalf okay, as long as you acknowledge then you acknowledge Major League Baseball storylines next.

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Schaub]

There's the Beach Boys. I heard these sounds coming to my house last night, although not from the original. Apparently there is one guy, one boy that is still in the Beach Boys that was original.

[Myron Metcalf]

Original.

[Matt Schaub]

Not one of the brothers. You know, it's like three brothers. And then was there a guy named like Love? I think there was a guy named. They were all brothers.

[Myron Metcalf]

Weren't they all raised in this? Weren't the originals all from the same family?

[Matt Schaub]

I don't. I mean maybe the same family, but there were three brothers. And then there was, there was a love. Mike Love, maybe Mark Love, because there's.

[Myron Metcalf]

A lot of documentaries about like how hard it. Like they have some real family.

[Matt Schaub]

Brother Love. It was something. Dude Love. It was something like that. But that's, that was one you could tune into. Baseball Action Night Yankees host the Red Sox coverage. Sunday night baseball begins at 6 Eastern. ESPN Radio. What? What?

[Myron Metcalf]

Sorry, I mean, interrupt. Go ahead.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah. Who are you talking to? We're on the radio. Coverage begins at 6 Eastern on ESPN radio, the ESPN app, and at 7 Eastern on ESPN. So I wanted to give some storylines here in Major League Baseball. I think there's like, you know, kind of check in. We're 30 games or so out from the playoffs. Let's start with Boston. They have been smashing the Yankees this weekend. They have now won nine straight games against the New York Yankees and are now ahead of them in the playoffs. Although it is looking like you could end up with Boston and New York playing each other in the wild card. What do you think about the sort of ownership the Red Sox have had over the Yankees here lately?

[Myron Metcalf]

It's pretty wild, I want to say. I wasn't talking to myself. I was confirming your point. There was a cousin and a friend in the Beach Boys. That's all I was saying. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, Boston, New York, Boston going. They're going in two different directions. I mean, a 12, 1 loss, it was pretty embarrassing, especially for, I think, a Yankees team that, what they had 14 home runs, I believe, against the Rays in that series sweep it. And now they just get destroyed in a game like this. I think they came into the series one and a half games ahead of the Red Sox. Now they're one and a half games behind. So I just think in general, you're talking about two teams that are just experiencing way different finishes to the season.

[Matt Schaub]

Well, right now they would be projected. Right now. Let me just say what, tell you what baseball could have. They could have two wild card matchups, which of course would be three game series. Right now, it's projected the Dodgers would play at the Cubs and the Yankees would play at the Red Sox. Do you think baseball is rooting for that outcome?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, no, because they'd like.

[Matt Schaub]

They don't want them in the car, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, they don't. They don't want one of them to get eliminated. They want them to be there in the World Series, you know, especially coming off Yankees, Dodgers and just the numbers that they did and the star power attached to it. Baseball is looking for that. Not my brewers and these other teams that have a chance to get in. So they don't want this situation.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah, they. They. They don't want that. But that is pretty, pretty amazing. All right, let's. Zach Wheeler was announced, had to have surgery for a blood clot. He will be out for six to eight months, which means, of course, he will miss the playoffs. He had been a dominant starter for Philly for last couple of years. Do you think that basically takes Philly out of a chance? They still have great pitching, but not now. They're down one of their best.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, it's. It's a challenge, right? I mean, when you lose something like that, like so much I feel about baseball is not even just the injuries themselves, but the timing of it all. And I lose a guy like right now in this moment, it changes a lot of things because everybody's getting into the playoffs at the end of the day, once you get into the postseason, it's about your aces, it's about your bullpen. And it changes a lot. I think for the Phillies now, I.

[Matt Schaub]

Think especially when you get to a seven game series or even a five game series, but when you get to that point, there's a sense of you want, you don't you want to be able to hand somebody the ball and you go, I know I'm getting a good outing tonight, right, because there's so many unknowns in baseball. But I know when I give this guy the ball, I'm getting out. And I think Zach Wheeler was one of those guys for Philadelphia. The other, you know, some of the other pitchers in their, their 2, 3, 4 have been very, very good. But I, I just feel like in the postseason I have more trust for Zach Wheeler. Unfortunately, he will be out two of the Major League baseballs three best rate. Let me read you the three best records in Major League Baseball night now. The Milwaukee brewers, the Detroit Tigers and the Toronto Blue Jays. I don't know that that's a dream scenario for mlb, but do you think those three teams that have the three best records have a chance to duplicate that success in the postseason?

[Myron Metcalf]

I hope so. I mean, you know, I'm rooting for Milwaukee to be able to do that. I'm all about the non Yankees, non Dodgers teams getting their opportunity to win, you know, at the highest.

[Matt Schaub]

I am too. But do you think, like I agree with you, part of the problem with baseball is it's always the Yankees, always Red Sox, always Dodgers. Okay, but now you might get what you wish. And if you got, I don't mean you because you're from Milwaukee, but if America got a Milwaukee Blue Jays World Series, are they going to watch it?

[Myron Metcalf]

If they know what's good for them? If they, if they like baseball, Like I think, sure.

[Matt Schaub]

Okay, so how much of America, who, how many people in America could name players on those two teams?

[Myron Metcalf]

But see, I don't think it's about that. I don't know in baseball, especially unless you're a Dodgers or Yankees fan, how you can legitimately root for those teams.

[Matt Schaub]

But, but like it's not about rooting. People watch it. I mean, we saw, they watched it last year, they got the best ratings they've gotten in years. Like whether they root for them, they.

[Myron Metcalf]

Still watch it, but there's nothing surprising about what those teams are doing. They're spending more money than everybody. Surprise. Like that's what they're going to get. They're going to get championship contenders because.

[Matt Schaub]

Baseball takes position in other sports. I mean, like, I know that in other sports, you'll say things like, you know, in the NCAA Tournament, you need Kentucky Duke, right? In the college football, you want Ohio State, Texas in. In, you know, basketball, you need LeBron, or you need staff or you need whatever. Like, why is baseball different?

[Myron Metcalf]

Because I think in baseball, there is room. I mean, I think the sport is different, right? I mean, the sport, at the end of the day, like, support for baseball is about the local fans.

[Matt Schaub]

It is.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's about the devoted fan bases for every team. It's less about the national audience. So I think in that regard, that's why I think this is a little bit different. The brewers, selfishly, the Blue Jays, I mean, it would be a good series. And to be able to. For one of those teams to be able to win in a world where there are legitimately $700 million players playing on each coast, I think that would be a sign of how strong the product is in baseball.

[Matt Schaub]

I think it would be good for the health of the game. I don't necessarily think it would bring the most eyeballs for the playoffs, the only real playoff. I mean, right now, you look at most the playoff races, it's kind of not much of a race. Probably the closest one is for the final wild card in the NL. The Mets are now 2 1/2 games up on the Reds. It was only a half game a couple days ago, but they're two and a half games back. But I want to tell you, it is my Reds. We have a new weapon, Mark. The Reds just signed a reliever whose name is Big Sugar. All right, I want everybody out there to Google Zach Maxwell. Just take a sec. Google Zach Maxwell, the new Reds pitcher. They call him Big Sugar. Now, before you even Google him, you can probably guess what he would look like. There's a belly that is very nice. Like, that's what you want. You want a nice rotund belly. He's got a face that looks jolly, right? He's got a. Sometimes he's got a neck beard, sometimes he doesn't. I think he can be the Red secret weapon. Are you a fan, Myron, of Big Sugar?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, how can I not be? I think everybody should be a fan of any dude named Big Sugar. First. First and foremost, that people are willing to call you that. Like, that must mean this name has been with you for a long time. You see him, he's a young dude. He's in his, like, early.

[Matt Schaub]

Yeah, he's young. He looks like he still got some time to be Big Sugar.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, but to. To. To see a dude that size on the mound, I mean, you. You got to support that man. I want to see Big Sugar.

[Matt Schaub]

Let me ask you a question. How you think he got the nickname Big Sugar? I don't know the answer, but how do you think they ended up calling him Big Sugar?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know the details, but I can guarantee you multiple women were involved. That's all I know. That's all I can tell you. I don't know the details.

[Caller]

Really?

[Matt Schaub]

You think so? You don't think my initial inclination was it was something to do with his consumption of food habits? You are going a different direction on what the sugar in Big Sugar is. You're doing like your grandma goes, give me some sugar. Is that what you're talking about?

[Myron Metcalf]

You get. No, not. I don't. That sound like maybe a partner. I don't know. Big Sugar is like, maybe he's like that. Like, maybe his charisma. I don't know. Either way, it's an incredible name. I don't know that there's a better nickname in sports right now.

[Matt Schaub]

You like it better than Cal Raleigh's, the Big Dumper?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Big Dumper is. It's hard for me to get around it. Like, I don't. I'm not going to call him Big Dumper. Like, I'm going to call him, but.

[Matt Schaub]

Are you going to call Zach Maxwell Big Sugar? You go. Look at that.

[Myron Metcalf]

I may not call it. I may not call him. I may not call him that, but I think that's a more appealing name. I also knew by the nickname Big Sugar, by the way, that he could have only been from about eight states in the country. Like, I narrowed it down.

[Matt Schaub]

Which one's he from?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't even know for sure, but I guarantee it's one of Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama. I guarantee he's probably from one of those. I don't know, and I don't know anything about him other than Big Sugar and that he's with the Reds, but I'm guessing he's from one of those states.

[Matt Schaub]

Interesting. So you just. The nickname itself tells you where he's from.

[Myron Metcalf]

Big Sugar's from. He has to be from one of those eight states or have lived in one of those eight states.

[Matt Schaub]

Okay. He's from Tennessee. I told you. I told you. Well, there you go. Big Sugar. Nashville, Tennessee. It is Sunday morning. Matt.

[Myron Metcalf]

Mile, I told you, man.

[Matt Schaub]

We will give you our picks for all the games that are to come today. That's next here on ESPN Radio.

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[Myron Metcalf]

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[Matt Schaub]

Oh, it's a great song. Now it's forgotten by history, but Def Leppard, you know, Porsche, I saw Def Leppard in Hershey, Pennsylvania a couple years ago. Still rocked it. Myron. Not gonna lie. Even at however old they are.

[Myron Metcalf]

Good group, man.

[Matt Schaub]

Yes. All right, so I have the origins of where Zach Maxwell got his nickname, Big Sugar. Are you ready?

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Matt Schaub]

He was quoted in an interview as saying, I was throwing in a game in college and the guy doing the TV broadcast said I looked like a big old hunk of sugar. And that got shortened down to Big Sugar.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Matt Schaub]

Would you be upset if you were playing in a game in college and the announcer said you look like a big old hunk of sugar?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I don't. I mean, there's a lot happening on this show between people calling people daddy and all. Yeah, I don't. I don't know that I'd feel great about it, you know, but if he got you your nickname, that's fine, but.

[Matt Schaub]

I don't know how a person. Big old hunk of sugar. What is that? I don't either. What is that? What is a big old hunk of sugar?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know.

[Matt Schaub]

I don't either.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know what that.

[Matt Schaub]

Well, it stuck. And that is why Zach Maxwell is a pitcher with the Reds. All right, it is now time for us to tell you about who's going to win the games today. It is take your pick. Take your pick. You take your pick.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's time to take your pick on Sunday morning.

[Matt Schaub]

All right, here we go. Cam, what games you got for us?

[Cam (Producer or Assistant)]

All right, we'll go with the first game. We'll go with The Yankees and Red Sox later tonight at 7 o'.

[Matt Schaub]

Clock. Yankees in the Red Sox tonight. This is our Sunday night baseball game. It's, it's. We got Red Sox, got Dustin May. The Yankees have Carlos Rodon. Who you got Radon. Sorry.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean the Yankees have just been terrible, man. I don't know, it's hard to make any sense of kind of what's happening straight.

[Matt Schaub]

Don't they finally get one? The Yankees are a big favorite, minus 165.

[Myron Metcalf]

Like what if they just can't beat the Red Sox right now? I mean they've won eight in a row. I'm going to take it nine.

[Matt Schaub]

I'm going to take the Red Sox. You're going to take the. I'm going to take the Yanks. They'll break, they'll get off the Schneider tonight. They will get the victory and cut the wild card race to I believe a game and a half after this. What's next?

[Cam (Producer or Assistant)]

All right, Matt, your Reds versus the Diamondbacks this afternoon at 410.

[Matt Schaub]

It's a big game for the Reds. I mean they've been bad in these last two games. Bloss, two games. The Diamondbacks, a team they need to beat if they're going to chase the Mets. Last night they had their ace going, still weren't able to win. This is kind of a crucial gotta win with Brady Singer on the mound. I'm going to take the Reds but like it's, it's partially hope because we got to get this victory.

[Myron Metcalf]

Myers, again, I think baseball at this moment in the wild car race is as fun as any sport I think in all of professional sports. I want to see the Reds get it done. I think they will. But the thing about the Reds and maybe I'm just leaning on the Milwaukee Series too often a lot of self inflicted wounds with that, with that team. Right. A lot of mistakes that they're just putting themselves in tough spots and that's what it seems like they have to avoid more than anything.

[Matt Schaub]

No, you're right. And they've done the same thing in this one. Terry Francono has done a good job and just like you were saying, it's good for baseball. See these other teams. America needs to see Ellie De La Cruz. He would be like, I think somebody that would love, be loved if more people knew who he was and more people got to see him play. What's next?

[Cam (Producer or Assistant)]

All right, Little League World Series. We got Nevada against Chinese Taipei.

[Matt Schaub]

It's Nevada and Taiwan playing today in the Little League World Series. You know, I'm probably going to take Taiwan. They've beaten a like all the favorites in the International Series. They kind of took out. I think they get the victory today. I will take Taiwan to win the World Series. Even though I'm going against my United States.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, you know how I feel. I mean, Ty, some of those Taiwan kids can get into R rated movies right now. So I don't know everything's on the books. But I mean, I think Taiwan wins. You know, it always feels like you can see the way that we celebrate in the Little League World Series when you win the national championship. We make that a really big deal because we know whoever we're getting ready to face is going to be a very difficult game.

[Matt Schaub]

But we've been winning it more recently. We've been. There was a period of time where we didn't win forever, but we've been winning.

[Myron Metcalf]

We started checking birth certificates. We've been checking birth certificates. That's why we've been putting, we've been putting the right people on the birth certificate council.

[Matt Schaub]

Well, we will see. We'll see what's next.

[Cam (Producer or Assistant)]

All right, we got a big game in the wnba. The Fever at the wing, at the Links. My apologies. Fever at the Links. And if the Fever lose this, they're close to being out of a playoff spot.

[Matt Schaub]

It is a big game, but it's also at the Links. That's. I'm gonna go first because I know what Myron's gonna pick. I'm gonna take the Links to win. By the way, Indiana's +550 for a regular season WNBA game. That's a crazy number, Myron.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty amazing kind of what's happening in the wnba. Caitlin Clark is still the story, right? No matter what happens, like, she's still the main story. And the Fever haven't announced when she's coming back, if she's coming back. If they lose today, Matt, and they're out of play, out of the playoff picture, I guarantee you she's not coming back. I mean, I don't think she's coming back at all. But another slump here would solidify that. Links win. But the bigger story is going to be playing.

[Matt Schaub]

Do you think, as they get into these contract negotiations, do you think her not playing and sort of interest in the league declining a little bit. What does that do for the contract negotiations?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, it ultimately helps because they still have done a lot of cool things like set an attendance record, you know, this year. And a lot of things kind of without her there. But at the end of the day, it's hard to talk about Caitlin Clark without activating, you know, the polarizing crowd about her. But there is life with Caitlin Clark and without her in the wnba. And the spot spotlight is clearly different when she's not on the court for the whole league.

[Matt Schaub]

That's true. What's next?

[Cam (Producer or Assistant)]

All right, we'll stay one more WNBA game. We'll do the Valkyrie at the Wings. The Wings have one of the best young stars in Paige beckers who scored 44 the other night.

[Matt Schaub]

This is like a, basically a toss up. The Wings are only, you know, they've only won nine games, but I feel like this is a one they'll get at home. They've got a sold out crowd. Give me the Wings.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know, man. I, you know, Paige Becker's a Minnesota, former Minnesota high school star, a big fan of her, but she scored 44 and they lost to LA, so I don't know how much more she can do to help this team.

[Matt Schaub]

She'll get 46 and they'll win today.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I don't know. I'm going to go with Golden State to get this win. They've been one of the more incredible expansion stories, by the way, in professional sports history. 500 right now. Got a chance to get into the playoffs. Been amazing what they've done.

[Matt Schaub]

What's next?

[Cam (Producer or Assistant)]

All right, the team with the best record in MLB, the Milwaukee brewers play the Giants this afternoon at 210.

[Matt Schaub]

Well, just for stubbornness, I'm going to take the Giants. Right. Milwaukee is. Milwaukee's been too good too long. They've, they've hit a little bit of a slide since the Burger promotion. But I'll go ahead and take the Giants to win in Milwaukee.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, you know, I'm picking Milwaukee and the world should pick Milwaukee. Like if you want to be somebody who gets on the bandwagon later, just know that's not how we roll with the Brewers. I'm, I'm, I'm picking the Brewers.

[Matt Schaub]

Man, I don't want to get in there. Let me, let me throw one in before, before Cam goes. What about the golf? Today's this. Tommy Fleetwood get it done. Patrick Cantlay, Russell Henley, Keegan Bradley and Scotty Scheffler right there with him. Does Tommy Fleetwood get it done?

[Myron Metcalf]

What is he under right now? What's the score right now?

[Matt Schaub]

So right now can't lay in Fleetwood or 16, Henley 14, Bradley 13, Scheffler 12.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think, I think Fleetwood gets it.

[Caller]

Done.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think.

[Matt Schaub]

I think he finishes. It'd be a great story. I mean, I know not everyone in sports knows who Tommy Fleetwood is, but, I mean, you have to go back in terms of like, somebody losing and choking as much to Greg Norman. And even Greg Norman had won. I mean, this guy has never won. And he still. And he's right there with the chance to win the Tour Championship.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, yeah, it'll be Fleetwood. He'll get the job done.

[Matt Schaub]

You just don't care, do you? Just can't get it. I do care.

[Myron Metcalf]

I do care. But you didn't really care about the.

[Matt Schaub]

It comes down the stretch. It's Tommy Fleetwood one. Oh, yeah. I'll watch it with, like, two to play. Are you going to turn it on and see?

[Myron Metcalf]

I'll watch it. You gonna watch the US Open? Sabalinka uso.

[Matt Schaub]

It's the first round. Why would I care about the US Open? It's. What's the first?

[Myron Metcalf]

Sabalenka is the way. What reason you should be watching.

[Matt Schaub]

Who does she play? Yeah, that's what I thought. ESPN Radio. Who? Hers.

[Myron Metcalf]

You play. You know what I'm talking about.

[Matt Schaub]

Okay, gotcha.

[Myron Metcalf]

Thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the Podcast. Podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10am Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, and on SiriusXM Channel 80. Matt and Myron the Podcast.

[Caller]

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