Hour 3: Let's Talk to All Three

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Episode: Hour 3: Let's Talk to All Three
Date: December 21, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones & Myron Medcalf
Network: ESPN Radio

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Episode Overview

This episode embraces the casual, engaging sports talk that defines Sunday mornings with Matt and Myron, mixing college football banter, NFL analysis, and festive debates over Christmas music. The show’s highlight is a unique “Take Your Pick” NFL picks segment featuring an entire delegation from Montana State—head coach Brent Vigen along with quarterback Justin Lamson and running back Adam Jones—fresh off a historic FCS semifinal win.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

I. Light-hearted Banter: New Orleans & College Bowl Games

• The show opens with Matt playfully defending his “qualifications” to discuss New Orleans culture in anticipation of a college bowl broadcast.
  • He boasts, “I've been to Mardi Gras multiple times… watched the show Treme on HBO… in the band, played New Orleans Jazz.” (01:43)
  • Myron counters, poking fun: “It's probably a good idea to leave the culture conversation to me… If you're not sure, just tap me on the shoulder.” (01:22)
• They riff on being in a New Orleans-style drum line, debating who danced more authentically—Matt insists he’s more qualified.

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II. King of the Mountain: Listener Calls & Sports Takes

Notable Calls & Takes:

• DJ in San Antonio [03:25]:
  Defends Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin:

  “Why don’t y’all just leave the man alone? He got Ole Miss to this point…”
  Uses a dating metaphor for loyalty:
  “If you date a girl and all she does is leave the guys, then she leaves you… who’s the fool?”
  Hosts agree it’s a strong, harsh take—the week’s King of the Mountain winner.

• Cannon in Boston [04:26]:
  Claims “Father Christmas” is the best Christmas song, but fails to provide reasons, which the hosts rib him for.

  Matt: “You can't just say it and then move on. Take. You need a take… give me substance!” (04:54)

• Bob in Portland [05:09]:
  Complains about inattentive fans at football games:

  “People around me were about as enjoyable as a swarm of bees at a nudist camp… getting up and back for 40 seconds without ever thinking about, hey, it’s a third and one play.”
  Hosts agree, especially on the annoyance of people constantly moving during games.
  Myron: “It should be like the movies; you just don't get up in the middle. Sit down and enjoy it.” (06:21)

• Chris in Seattle [06:37]:
  Defends Bowie/Crosby’s “Little Drummer Boy” and announces he’s wearing their t-shirt.

  Matt: “You gotta start with that… My man's wearing his Bing Crosby t-shirt every day.” (07:14, 07:44)

• Tim in Nebraska [08:08]:
  Delivers a direct challenge to Bills QB Josh Allen:

  “Josh Allen, if you're not gonna get to the Super Bowl this year, I sure as heck want to know when you are. It’s basically yours. It's a Christmas gift… if you can't do it now, you ain't never going to do it.”
  Hosts praise the straightforwardness—“Strong take, strong to the point” (08:27)

• Q in Oklahoma [08:57]:
  Suggests top 4 College Football Playoff seeds should get home-field advantage:

  “It's unfair to the top four seeds… it seems weird you play all year… don’t get a home game.”
  Both hosts call it one of the best takes of the day, noting TV money is an obstacle but home crowd energy is unmatched. (09:46)

• Russ in Indiana [10:28]:
  Asserts people over age 35 must watch “The Godfather”:

  “Your friends should kidnap you, hold you down and make you watch that movie.”
  Leads to both hosts trading Godfather impressions for laughs.

Winner Selection

• After much debate, DJ in San Antonio (Lane Kiffin/dating metaphor take) is crowned “King of the Mountain” once again, but Q in Oklahoma’s playoff idea runs a close second.

  “I've never heard anybody suggest that, and it makes sense to me.” – Matt [12:48]

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III. NFL & College Football Talk

A. Jaguars/Broncos Matchup & NFL Parity

• Matt and Myron preview Jaguars vs. Broncos, noting both are led by 2nd-year QBs, both underdogs in AFC discussion.
  • Myron: “If you told someone the Broncos could lock up the number one seed, nobody would believe that… but both teams could be AFC contenders.” (17:58)
  • Matt highlights: Similar stories for the Bears, Broncos, and Patriots—all with young QBs, surprising seasons, but doubts persist about sustainability.
  • Myron: “I would believe in the Broncos more because I trust their defense… and Sean Payton.” (20:03)

B. Trevor Lawrence’s Growth

• Myron praises Trevor Lawrence’s recent play (12 TDs, 3 INTs last 5 weeks) and frames the Denver game as a true test of legitimacy for the Jaguars. (20:57)

C. AFC Quarterback Debate

• Discussion over which sophomore QB/coach combo (Broncos, Bears, Patriots) is most trustworthy entering the playoffs. Both settle on Broncos, crediting defense and coaching.

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IV. Ravens v. Patriots & NFL Commentary

• Ravens’ future is debated. Matt, a self-confessed Lamar Jackson fan (despite being a Louisville hater), believes in a bounce-back:

  “I have a sneaky suspicion the Ravens are going to win this game tonight. …I can't jump off the Lamar train.” (26:33, 42:30)

• Myron expresses doubt in the Ravens’ long-term prospects:

  “They haven't looked the part. I think we'll look back and say… you had a window and it didn’t work out.” (25:56, 26:16)

• Light-hearted back-and-forth includes Matt suggesting “Fly, Ravens Fly,” jokingly appropriating the Eagles’ anthem. (29:03)

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V. Special Guest Segment: Montana State Celebration & Weekly Picks

[32:36–44:30]

Montana State Joins the Show

• Coach Brent Vigen, QB Justin Lamson, and RB Adam Jones join, celebrated for Montana State’s record-breaking FCS semifinal win over Montana.
  • Atmosphere:

    Vigen: “A scene unlike anything… all those fans… our students were amazing. It’s what college football is all about.” (32:36)

  • Lamson: “We got 25,000 in there, a new attendance record. It was amazing.” (33:11)
  • Jones: “We don’t have an NFL team. Both Montana schools—state really rallies behind that.” (33:47)
  • Vigen plugs upcoming FCS championship: “The lines between the top FCS and much of the group of five are pretty blurry. We got a lot of good football players here…” (34:35)

“Take Your Pick” NFL Segment

• Each Montana State guest, plus Matt/Myron, pick games for the week, mixing insight and playful rivalry.

• Example picks:

  • Bills vs. Browns: All go with the Bills.

    Vigen: “Easy one. Josh Allen.” (35:49)

  • Jets vs. Saints: All go Saints, citing home field and recent performances.

    Lamson: “They had a big win last week and it’s hard to win in New Orleans.” (38:06)

  • Patriots vs. Ravens: Split: Myron and Adam pick Patriots for the Drake May storyline, Matt sticks with Lamar and the Ravens. (41:58–42:30)
  • 49ers vs. Colts (MNF): Mixed; most go 49ers, but Justin (a Rams fan) supports the Colts and Matt follows suit, citing the “Disney movie” narrative of Philip Rivers’ return. (43:42–44:00)

• Segments are peppered with fun (“Quarterback vs. running back!” “You gotta stick with my Montana State quarterback!”) and end with hearty congratulations to the Bobcats.

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VI. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “If you date a girl and all she does is leave the guys… then she leaves you… Who’s the fool?” – DJ in San Antonio, [03:50]
• “It should be like the movies; you just don't get up in the middle… Sit down and enjoy it.” – Myron, [06:21]
• “You can't just say it and then move on. Take. You need a take!” – Matt, [04:54]
• “I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse.” – Myron, channeling The Godfather, multiple times [11:01, 12:05, 14:35]
• “I've, I've seen, I've been to a party where Nelly performed too. Nelly will… Somebody's got to pay for those Air Force Ones.” – Matt, on cross-genre performances [17:02]
• “You had a guy who was arguably the most talented player… and you didn’t even get to a Super Bowl.” – Myron, on the Lamar Jackson-era Ravens, [26:11]

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VII. Important Timestamps

• Discussion on New Orleans culture/qualifications: [00:56–02:45]
• King of the Mountain calls & sports takes: [03:25–14:20]
• NFL previews (Jags/Broncos, AFC QBs): [17:58–22:00]
• Ravens v. Patriots, Ravens-era debate: [25:16–29:40]
• Montana State Celebration & NFL Picks with guests: [32:36–44:30]

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Tone & Style

• The tone is laid-back, witty, and conversational with plenty of jokes, friendly ribbing, and audience engagement.
• Both hosts play off each other’s quirks, drawing listeners into the feeling of a friendly sports bar debate.

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For New Listeners

This episode captures Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron at its best: blending serious sports insight, listener interaction, cultural references, and comedic banter.

• Not only does it cover topical college/NFL questions with original perspectives (“why don’t top playoff seeds get home games?”), but it also spotlights college football’s grassroots energy through a lively Montana State guest segment.
• If you enjoy sports with personality—and hearing callers get roasted for weak takes—this edition is a perfect entry point.

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Listen for:

• Hilarious “qualifications” to discuss city culture
• A parade of audience calls as contentious as any hot take
• Fresh debates on perennial NFL parity questions
• Unique energy for college football’s FCS underdogs
• The spirit of “sports talk for the people”—not pundits

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“I might have gone with Q, but I didn’t state you were from because of how James tried to spell it… That is the worst spelling of Oklahoma I’ve ever seen in my life.” – Matt, [13:14]

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

That's how you say it right there. Bingles there. You'll get a lot of practice. As I realized when we had the Southern Miss coach on, I called them the Golden Eagles. Is that their name? That is their name, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because he didn't correct me.

[A]

But I don't.

[B]

I mean, I know Hilltop. It's Golden Eagles.

[A]

Okay, sure.

[B]

Because I wouldn't want to get his. Get the team name wrong before the New Orleans. New Orleans bowl, Tuesday at 5:30. I've been doing a lot of studying. I've also been studying up, you know, about New Orleans. I'm like getting the culture, Myron. So I'm ready for it. I've been studying up about, you know, no limit cash money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I'm ready for all of it.

[A]

Yeah. I think it's probably a good idea to leave the culture conversation to me on the broadcast. Like, if you ever get in a moment where you want it, can we.

[B]

Talk about the culture in New Orleans?

[A]

If you're not sure, you just tap me on the shoulder and say you take it. Just to be.

[B]

First of all, just to be clear, can I give you my qualifications to talk about the culture?

[A]

Maybe, but go ahead.

[B]

I've been to Mardi Gras multiple times.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I watched the show Treme on hbo. Right. When I was in. When I was at Middlesborough High School or middle School, in the band, we played a song called New Orleans Jazz.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think all of those things make me kind of qualified to be able to talk about the culture, except.

[A]

Interactions with black people in New Orleans, apparently. But you did everything but that. But yeah, that's not true.

[B]

That is not true.

[A]

You know what I want to do? You know the drum lines, you know, like the line like, they'll start dancing.

[B]

I've been in one.

[A]

I want to be in one. That's my goal.

[B]

So let's do this. Raise both of us. Let's put the amount of New Orleans drum lines we've marched in. Myron.

[A]

One.

[B]

Now, you said you've never done it.

[A]

No, I've done. I've been. I haven't. I didn't dance in it. I was in it, though. I didn't dance it. I was like, walking.

[B]

So how many have you danced in?

[A]

No, no, I haven't danced in it.

[B]

Guess who has? Me.

[A]

Okay, okay, follow up question. How was the dancing?

[B]

Because, well, you have to ask the audience. You have to ask them. I'm just saying I feel like I can talk about the culture at least a little bit. Matt Myron is presented by Progressive Insurance. Save when you bundle motorcycle, RV and boat insurance. Visit progressive.com. it is now time for King of the Mountain. Ladies and gentlemen, your winner and new King of the Mountain champion, DJ in San Antonio. Go, dj.

[C]

Let me tell you something. First of all, I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, so I'm not that stupid.

[A]

But even if we do win out.

[C]

We still gotta win out in the.

[A]

Playoffs to get to the two of.

[C]

Us, which ain't gonna happen. But the real thing I'm talking about is Lane Kinsman.

[A]

Why don't y' all just leave the man alone?

[C]

He got Ole Miss to this point, all right? I'm not even an Ole Miss fan.

[A]

Or Link Kitchen fan.

[C]

If you date a girl and all she does is leave the guys all.

[A]

The time, she's never steady with them, and then you get with her and.

[C]

Then she leaves you.

[D]

Who's the fool?

[B]

Who's the fool?

[A]

That's valid.

[B]

Exactly right. Plus, they won yesterday, so I think they should stop hating Lane Kiffin. Are they going to do it, Byron?

[A]

No. No. That game next year will be the most explosive thing in all the college sports.

[B]

I got to be there. I'm just going to go ahead and tell you. If I have to sneak into the place, I'm going. So that's D.J. in San Antonio. He has held the title for two weeks. We'll see if somebody can knock him off. It's King of the Mountain. Let's go to cannon. Boston. 30 seconds go on the Dr. Pepper calling line.

[C]

Hey, guys, my take is that Father Christmas by the King is the best Christmas song. And I recognize this is risky picking on that, but you shouldn't be hating on Drummer Boy by Bowie and Bing Crosby.

[B]

Yeah, I've been told that that was Bowie and drink. I didn't like the version that I heard, but I like David Bowie and Bing Crosby. You didn't tell me, however, why that song he mentioned is the best one. You just said it is. I need substance. You can't just say it and Then move on.

[A]

Take. You need a take?

[B]

Yeah, you need to take. You can't just go, josh Allen's the greatest quarterback ever. You have to tell me why Josh Allen is the greatest quarterback ever.

[A]

That's what people are missing.

[B]

So, you know, you got to have some. Some substance. Bob in Portland, what's your take?

[C]

First of all, I want to say I love you guys both. I wake up on Sunday morning and I'm like, all right, I get to listen to Matt Myron today. And Matt, I love your book. Mitch, please. I bought it for, like, 10 friends. So it's an honor to be on the air with you guys. I want to encourage people to stay home from football games. I was at the Oregon James Madison game last night, and the people around me were about as enjoyable as a swarm of bees at a nudist camp. Getting up to go back and forth to the bathroom and go get another hot 40 seconds without ever thinking about, like, hey, it's a third and one play. I might sit down and actually watch this. The gals in front of me were talking about everything but the game for the entire game. I don't know how rich people are to pay $300 for a ticket and then not pay attention to the game. And the last thing is, you don't know more than the coaches. We're so lucky to have Dan Lanning at the University of.

[B]

Okay, I'm going to stop you there. They didn't run the buzzer like they were supposed to.

[A]

There he was.

[B]

I still thought that was good, though.

[A]

He was good. I think he should have gotten to the Dan Lanning stuff a little earlier, actually.

[B]

No, I think his strongest point was sit down at games. I hate. Yeah, when people walk up and back and up and back when the game goes on, sit down. So I actually think that was his strongest take, and I agree with him.

[A]

It should be like the movies you just don't get up in the middle of. You know what I mean? Like, sit down and enjoy it. Yes, I agree.

[B]

Plus, you know that they have these long rows at some stadiums and you have to sit there. It drives me nuts. Chris insead on the Dr. Pepper calling line. Go.

[C]

Hey, good morning and thank you for having me on the show. You guys make me laugh so hard. It's an honor to be on David Bowie and Bing Crosby did the best version of Little Drummer Boy for two reasons. One, because I'm wearing a T shirt. My wife gave it to me for Christmas, but she gave it to me early so I could wear it On a day like today, so satisfying that you guys had to bring that song up. Two is because during the time that that song was recorded.

[B]

I gotta just ask you a question. You're not. I. I appreciate you're being very nice, but you're probably not gonna win.

[A]

Just give it.

[B]

What is on the T shirt?

[A]

You didn't say.

[C]

Oh, it's. It's a picture of Bing Crosby and David Bowie.

[A]

You gotta lead with that.

[B]

You got. You gotta start with that. Like you just said, I was wearing a T shirt and I was wearing. I hope so. So you did. You gotta. Chris, let us know what the T shirt is. Is.

[C]

It's a very nice T shirt and it's my favorite one I've ever gotten now, and I'm wearing it every day.

[A]

Okay, but you gotta. You gotta start with that.

[B]

No, man. My man's wearing his Bing Cosby T shirt every day. Every day you see Crosby, David boy T shirt.

[A]

That says a lot about you.

[B]

See Chris in Seattle. You also are going to see Bing Crosby on that chest. That's just going to be how it is. Yeah. Let's go to Tim in Nebraska. Go, Tim.

[C]

Hey, guys. You know, I'm just going to say, Josh Allen, if you're not going to get to the super bowl this year, I sure as heck want to know when you are going to. Because it's basically yours. It's a Christmas gift. It's wrapped, it's under the tree. It's yours by default, Allen, if you can't do it now, you guys ain't never going to do it. Thank God.

[B]

Strong. Take strong to the point.

[A]

I like Josh Allen.

[B]

A haymaker. I think that's. It's a. It was a. That's a strong, strong, strong call.

[A]

It's not crazy. I mean, I think Allen will get chances, but the AFC just keeps getting better and better. You got to deal with Denver all of a sudden. You got to deal with Drake.

[B]

Get a chance when you don't have three of the four biggies like this year. You got to do it. Let's go to D. Q in Oklahoma on the Dr. Pepper calling line. Go Q.

[C]

So, fellas, I think the CFP should be flipped. So the top 14 should be the.

[A]

Have the home field advantage. Oklahoma and Alabama should have been like a.

[C]

The Orange bowl. And Miami and Texas A and M should have been the Rose Bowl. It's unfair to the top four seeds.

[D]

To have.

[C]

Those bowl games, but they're.

[B]

Not home field advantage.

[C]

They might get upset just because it's a Neutral field.

[B]

I actually think that's a really good point. It's always seemed weird to me that you play all year and the four teams that are the top seeds, they don't get a home game. That seems weird to me. I kind of like the idea of the bowl games being that round. I actually think that's a pretty good idea, to be honest with you.

[A]

I love that take. I mean, because it. Like, what's the reward outside of the buy?

[C]

Right.

[A]

If you're those top four, keep the.

[B]

Money at these home games.

[A]

I think the schools. Yeah, the.

[B]

So that. I mean, how is it the revenue. Is it fair that the 5, 6, 7, 8 get all that revenue from a home game, but the 1, 2, 3, and 4 don't?

[A]

Well, I think that's. I think that's a fair conversation now. I mean, there's a lot of TV money involved here. But I will say the atmospheres, even if people didn't appreciate some of the games, the atmospheres were great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like, you should do that for those top four season.

[B]

Great.

[A]

That's one of my favorite takes. I think that's a great take.

[B]

Let's go to Russ in Indiana. Go, Russ.

[C]

Hey, guys.

[B]

Good morning.

[C]

If you are a particular age and you have not seen the movie the Godfather, your friends should kidnap you, hold you down, and block out three hours of your day and make you watch that movie. If you say, I've never seen the Godfather and you are over the age of 35, you are now should be exercised to a different city.

[B]

Okay. Now let's ask this question. Myron, have you seen the Godfather?

[A]

Who hasn't seen the Godfather?

[B]

Two of my co hosts in Kentucky haven't seen the Godfather.

[A]

I'm gonna make. I'm gonna make an offer you can't refuse.

[B]

Is that your. I'm sorry. It's good. Is that your dog? Okay, let's. Hang on. I don't think I was prepared for it. Let me say here, let's act out this scene. I'm going to be the concierge. All right. I'm going to come up to you and say, all right, you know, Godfather, what. What do we do about this situation?

[A]

I'm gonna make him an awful camper.

[B]

Fuel. What? Actually not.

[A]

I think that's spot on. I've been doing that impression for years. I've been doing that for years. Kids. Kids in sixth and seventh grade loved it. I mean, they would ask for that impression specifically.

[B]

People can't see, though. If we were on television you even do, like, the under. You even do that as well.

[A]

I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse.

[B]

Can you do any other lines?

[A]

Not terrible.

[B]

Is that the only one you got?

[A]

That's. That's the only one I got. That's what I've been working on. 20.

[B]

You got to know when to stop. You got to know when to stop. All right, so let's see who's our winner. We had some good contenders here. Bob in Portland says, sit down at the games. Tim in Nebraska says, josh Allen, you better win the super bowl this year. Q in Oklahoma gives his take on the College Football Playoff home game, home games. And Russ is in Indiana says, you gotta watch the Godfather. Who do you like? Myron?

[A]

I love the playoff take, but I love the style of the Josh Allen tape. I thought there was just more energy with the Josh Allen take, but I love the idea of the playoff seating flip, though.

[B]

Here's why I'm going to pick you in Oklahoma for the playoff one, because I've never heard anybody suggest that, and it makes sense to me. So, James, would you like Q in Oklahoma, or would you like the dude with the Josh Allen take?

[A]

I like Q in Oklahoma.

[B]

Okay. All right. Q in Oklahoma wins today with his. By the way, James, that's not how you spell Oklahoma. O, L, K, A, L, H, O, M, A.

[A]

What schools were you in, James?

[B]

That's not how you spell it either. You had two extra. Let me tell you, folks, how he spelled it and stuff. O, L, K, H, A, M, H, O, M, A. That. That. That is the worst spelling of Oklahoma I've ever seen in my life.

[A]

James was in class with me. I went to. Yeah, I went to Northern Cameron High School. What am I. What am I gonna say?

[B]

It's like Oklahoma.

[A]

Those fancy Matt classes. You know, Matt was in those classes where you had to, like, test into those classes.

[B]

That was in those classes where you learn to spell Oklahoma. Yeah, I got you. All right, so would you rather have D.J.

[A]

Couldn'T get in. Sorry.

[B]

D.J. in San Antonio with his lane kiffin take or Q in Oklahoma with his college football home games?

[A]

If Q would give us a little more energy. But I'll go with the lane kiffin take? I think to me, that's still.

[B]

I think it's very close, but I'm gonna stick with the lane kiffin take because it was a little harsher and give him a week three win. But Q, you were very close.

[A]

Q was great.

[B]

I might have gone with Q, but I didn't state you were from because of how James tried to spell it. This might have been from the move. We'll do more on football coming up here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio.

[A]

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[B]

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[B]

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[B]

This is Myron's favorite Christmas hymn.

[A]

Yeah, which.

[B]

Who's singing this version? Is this someone famous or who is this?

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

Chris Young featuring Boyz II Men.

[A]

Okay, I thought it was the boys to men 1.

[B]

How's boys to Men?

[A]

They speak on every holiday like they got a lot of songs.

[B]

This doesn't sound like a guy that Boyz II Men would sing with.

[C]

With.

[A]

Who's Chris Young if the money's right, boys and men will sing with you.

[B]

You know, that's a good point. I've been to not one, not two, but three parties at people's house where boys to men was singing. Yes.

[A]

Between boys and men and Nelly. Like if the check is right, they'll get on anybody's song.

[B]

You are exactly. I've, I've seen, I've been to a party where Nelly performed too. Nelly will Nelly. They both. He'll be there. Somebody's got to pay for those Air Force ones. It's a 888 ESPN. It's Matt Myron on progress on the Progressive Insurance MATT Myron show Jaguars and Broncos probably. If you're just talking about best teams, the best game today, it's not even in a prime slot. It'll be on the off network during the late game. So it's not even going to get a prime time. Like unless you're in Jacksonville or Denver area, you're not even going to see it unless you have red zone or whatever. So it's kind of weird how this has got no, no play. Bo Nicks and the Broncos. What's interesting to me is what you said about the Bears earlier today where you were like, they've won all these close games, they've pulled them out at some point. I think it's going to catch up to them. Why doesn't that also apply to the Broncos?

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Yeah, because I think the Bears have just kind of been in a bigger spotlight. Like if you told someone that the Broncos have a chance to lock up the number one seed in the playoffs, nobody would believe that. I don't think people believe in Bo Nicks. I don't think people believe the same.

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Concern about them that you do about the Bears.

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Yeah, I think, I think it's, it's certainly similar, right?

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Quarterbacks, both second year quarterbacks.

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The difference is Bo Nicks has been in the playoffs. You know what I mean? This is the Denver team that in the second half of last season played great, got into the playoffs and then they just elevated from there potentially the number one seed, potentially the team that represents the AFC in the AFC championship. But I'd say these two teams, the Jags and the Broncos, if you ask someone how, where do they rank in terms of AFC super bowl contenders? They're probably not one or two for a lot of people even in the afc, I would think.

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No, but I would then say, well, who you got Right. Like, like, I mean what's, here's what's interesting you have three franchises here in the Broncos, the Bears and the Patriots that are all being led by second year quarterbacks that are all performing this year probably better than expected, at least as you looked at it at the beginning of the season. All three of which have had defenses that have been very successful and all three of which, you've had moments where they look like superstars and yet I don't know if I definitely believe in any of them. And I'm not really sure how you decide which one you believe in the most. You know what I mean?

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But. But I think that's going to have to change in the weeks ahead. Patrick Mahomes is not here.

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Yes.

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Lamar is not going to be here. Josh Allen could go into this playoffs as a wild card team potentially. Right.

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So which one do you believe in the most?

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Between the Jags and the Broncos?

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I believe. No, no, between those three court. Between the Bears, the Broncos and the Patriots, the three second year coaches, or, excuse me, second year quarterbacks. Which one do you believe in the most going into the postseason?

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I would believe in the Broncos more because I trust their defense more than those teams and I trust Sean Payton more. You know, I think at the end of the day, kind of that's the advantage. You, you have a guy who has one at the highest level. And again, the Broncos got better. They got into the playoffs and a lot of people thought, okay, they kind of snuck in, they got better this year and they've been playing at a really high level. But I think the story in this game is actually Trevor Lawrence and how great he's been. And I feel like we're not hearing enough about his progress.

[B]

I mean, he's another one that has kind of slipped under the radar. Here's my worry about Jacksonville. They really haven't played anybody. Their schedule has been lily soft. So this is for me a test of, okay, how real is Jacksonville? I'm not even saying you have to win, but is this game late in the fourth quarter, a game in Denver? That's what I want to see because it's just been hard to judge them because of who they play.

[A]

And this is the kind of game you may have to win if you want to advance in the playoff pictures. But Trevor Lawrence, 12 touchdowns, three interceptions over the last five weeks, nine touchdowns, three, zero interceptions, I think in the last four weeks. So Trevor Lawrence is playing at a very high level right now. And this could be the game where people go, oh, wait a minute, this is the guy we always thought we would see.

[B]

Yeah, no, I mean there is. You make a good point. One of these teams is going to have to win. You know, one of these teams, these like surprising teams that nobody believes in. Somebody's going to have to win and it's going to be interesting to see which one it is. We still got to preview more of Week 16 in the NFL and then Montana State. We invited a player from Montana State to join the as guest picker. You know what they said? We want to have everybody come. So it's going to be a chaotic guest picking segment. That's all next here on Matt and Myron.

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George Michael. Okay. I mean, I didn't know the artist, but I knew.

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888 sounds like 888. Say ESPN. Love it. You. By the way, this show is available on podcasts. A lot of people don't realize that you can get it on Matt Myron, wherever you get your podcast, it can be the. The Spotify or the Apple or the, you know, all of those. All of those various podcast platforms. Patriots play the Ravens tonight. People just completely given up on the Ravens. They're still only one game back of the division. If the lines were to beat the Steelers at home today, the Ravens could tie the Steelers with a win and then they play each other in the last week of the season. So you could have a game in Baltimore to win the division, to have Lamar make the playoffs. I'm not done with the Ravens. Everyone else is. Myron, do you join me or do you join everyone else?

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I joined everyone else because it feels like the Ravens might be done with the Ravens. I mean, I think last time we saw what they. They destroyed a Bengals team that, I don't know. After Joe Burrow basically went out and said I might retire at 27 or whatever he was saying, it felt like they lost a little bit of their heart. I just. They haven't looked apart. Like the Ravens just hasn't. Haven't looked like the team we've seen in recent years that was battling for the top seats. I think we'll look back at the Ravens 50 years from now, 30 years from now, 10 years from now, and say you had a window to win a Super bowl, to compete for a Super bowl, and it didn't work out.

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You think people are going to be looking back on this Ravens team 50 years from now?

[A]

Some people. I mean, do you look back on this?

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Do you look back on the Chargers teams from the 70s? A lot do.

[A]

NFL fans will look back, especially Ravens fans, I think will look back and feel like you had a window with Lamar Jackson.

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You had a multiple MVP as quarterback. You didn't take advantage of it. Yes.

[A]

You had a guy who was arguably the most talented player in this league for a three year stretch and you didn't even get to a Super Bowl. And now what happens from here, I mean, that to me is why it's got to be frustrating to be a Ravens fan.

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No, I think that's fair. That's a fair indication.

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I just.

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And I could be completely wrong. And tonight if you want to write me at 11 o' clock and say, Matt, you were a goober face, I'm fine.

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Is that how people insulted you growing up? Did that, did people call you that? What kind of.

[B]

No, I'm just saying, like if you want to say that to me tonight after I say this, that's fine. You can say I'm a goober face. But I just think that I have a sneaky suspicion the Ravens are going to win this game tonight. I just feel like this is this. I don't completely believe in the Patriots. They lost at home. I think this is a game the Ravens, if they lose this, the division's basically over for them. I think they're going to find a way to win this game and to make it to where the. Because. Because their season kind of hinges on this game is at home. It's on Sunday Night Football. I think Lamar is going to want to have one performance. This year has been so disappointing for him. I think they pull this out to tonight.

[A]

You, you have always been a Lamar Jackson advocate and I think that's getting.

[B]

A Lamar Jackson advocate. But think about what it takes for me to be a Lamar Jackson advocate. I hate Louisville with the passion of a thousand gods. Like I can't stand Louisville and the fact that I am still able to appreciate and root for Lamar Jackson should say what a hold he has.

[A]

One of the first things you told me was about Lamar Jackson, who was going to be this great quarterback that a lot of people didn't believe in. So I give you that credit.

[B]

I think it also looked Dan Orlovsky in the eye and I said, yes, you played quarterback, but I talk and I'm right and you are wrong and I was correct and he was wrong about Lamar Jackson and I am still believing in him tonight.

[A]

A lot of people were wrong About Lamar, I will say this year maybe it's a health situation. He hasn't looked like the guy who was an MVP all those years. The Ravens have taken a step back. Obviously injuries have played a role in that, but again, they just don't have that same pop. And I think to me you're going into a situation where you gotta win big these last couple of weeks to get in. We're talking about a team that was the number one seed a couple years ago. Kansas City had to go to Baltimore. Lamar Jackson, mvp two out of three years, the run may be over for them. And I think that to me is what this game in this last three, three game stretch could signify.

[B]

I don't think it's over. I still believe in Baltimore. Fly, Ravens fly. I don't know if that's a thing they say. They say that.

[A]

I don't, I don't think you just take that from the Eagles.

[B]

Why can't I know that they would appreciate. Ravens are also birds and they also different birds. I'm going to quote the Raven Nevermore and I'm going to that they are going to win this game. And then you go to Monday Night Football. 49ers at Colts Philip Rivers, you know, it's one thing to play week one, it's another thing to get out of bed the next day. Things are aching. You start to remember bones and muscles you didn't have. And now he's going to play at home. Now, I will say that place going to be rocking. It's going to be wild. The Colts dome is going to be exciting. But will Philip Rivers be able to have a shot to give his Colts a victory?

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I mean, it had a shot last week, you know, but what you also saw is just how hard it is to, to play at any level at any age, but especially at 44. I, I think what's interesting, man, is I don't know that we've had a segment all year about the 49ers. Like I don't know that we've had one segment where we were like, let's talk about the nine.

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Because they bore me and I and brought.

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They gotta change.

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All right, it's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. Let me tell you how we do this. Sometimes for take your pick, we ask somebody to come and be our celebrity guest picker. And sometimes we don't know who we're going to get. So we'll say, hey, there was a big victory. Will you give us, I don't know, the coach, the quarterback, the running back, whatever. We did that for Montana State and they said we'd like to have them all. And I said, bring them all. That's what I like. It was the biggest sporting event in Montana maybe ever, certainly in years. Yesterday in the FCS semifinals and Montana State beat Montana 48 23. Head coach Brent Viggin, Justin Lamson and Adam Jones, the quarterback and running back, are joining us. Brent, I'll start with you, Coach. How great was that atmosphere yesterday in Montana?

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Oh, it was definitely a scene unlike anything I do think has ever been in that state. I don't know how many fans did. All those fans in that stadium. And they were, they were on it from the beginning. Our students were amazing. It's what college football is all about. I'm so glad our guys got a chance to experience that.

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I loved it. I got to watch some of it. It did seem awesome. Justin, you run out there, you're playing against. This is the semifinal finals, chance to play for the championship. You look up, people paid thousands of dollars to get in there. That had to be why you wanted to go play at the at Montana State.

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Yeah, it was amazing. I just thank the whole state, basically the super brawl. It was awesome. I'm happy it was in Bozeman for these fans to get a game like that. It's amazing. And yeah, it was just a great atmosphere. I think we got 25,000 in there, the new attendance record. So it was awesome.

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Adam, I have only been to Montana once. A lot of our country probably that's listening, probably has never been explain to people what it is that makes the excitement in the football in Montana like it is.

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I think to start, you know, we don't have an NFL team here. So both these Montana schools, it's kind of the best football that it gives here in Montana. And the state really rallies behind that. And, you know, anytime that these two schools meet up, it's a game that everyone wants to go to. You can tell by the ticket prices. I think that was pretty outrageous, but it was a really fun game.

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Coach, before we do the picks real quick, you guys will play in the championship next week. I believe it's Illinois State.

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Is that right, Villanuel?

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Right?

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Yes, Illinois State. So don't, don't argue with me, Myron. So it's Illinois State and Montana State. For people who are football fans across the country, tell them why they should tune in and watch that national championship game.

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Well, it's really good football and I know in our case, our fan base supports it like you should. And you know, the, the lines between the top, the FCS and much of the, let's say group of five is pretty blurry. You know, we got a lot of good football players here. They play the game the right way and it's going to be a competitive game. We're playing for everything. And, you know, that'll be evident on that field coming January 5th. I think it is.

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Yeah. I can't wait. January 5th, Montana State and Illinois State for the national championship. All right, guys. Brent, Justin, Adam, it is time to pick some games. I hope you're ready. It is time for take your pick.

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All right, let's get started. Here's what we'll do.

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I'm going to.

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We'll do the game, I'll make the pick, then I'll go around to you and Myron. Here we go. We started. He says, Bill's Browns. Myron, who you got?

[A]

I think I'm going to pick the Bills, but this could be closer than people expect. Miles Garrett going for the all time sack record 1 1/2 Sacks away.

[B]

Coach, who you got? Bills. Browns.

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Easy one Bill. Josh Allen.

[B]

I'm taking the Bills as well. I think Josh Allen and company will be able to get the win, but it wouldn't shock me if this comes down the final possession. The Bills sometimes play down to their opposition. What's next?

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Chargers at Cowboys.

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Myron?

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Yeah, I mean, Justin Herbert had that surgery on the offhand 12 interceptions. I. I don't think he has looked as efficient as he has in past years. But I think the charges are still very, very good. And that Cowboys defense is very suspect. Give me the Chargers to win.

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Justin, who you got?

[C]

I'm gonna go with the Cowboys. I think the Chargers are looking good, but I think Jack's playing good football. So I'm gonna go with the Cowboys.

[B]

I like it. Justin picking a little bit of an upset. I'm gonna take Justin Herbert on the road. I think the Cowboys may have mailed it in last week. Give me the Chargers. Who's next?

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Chief said Titans. Myron, it's important to game and Gardner Minshew coming in for Patrick Mahomes that could he be the guy to start next season potentially, if Mahomes isn't ready. But Cam Ward wants to go out on a good note. These last couple of games. I will pick the Tennessee Titans to win this.

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Oh, Titans in an upset. Adam, who you got?

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I'm still taking the seats. I think Amy Reid does a really good job. I think they're going to go out.

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Come on, you gotta believe Myron in. I'm with. I'm with Adam. You gotta believe in me. I'm gonna take the Chiefs to get the win in Tennessee. What's next?

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Bengals at Dolphins. Myron, you just wanted to say that Quinn Ewers comes in for the Dolphins. I mean, Cincinnati after Joe Burrow was talking like he may retire early. I think that took something out of Cincinnati. I think Miami rallies under a new quarterback and wins.

[B]

Give me coach Quinn Ewers in his first start. Who? Dolphins.

[C]

I think Joe will bounce back. Big Billbo fan. So.

[B]

Yeah, I'm going to take the Bengals as well. I think they go on the road. Quinn Ewers. That's going to be a tough, tough task to go in and win his first game. What's next?

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Jets at Saints.

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Jets and Saints. Who you got, Myron?

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Saints have gotten some surprising wins in recent weeks. And the jets have given up 82 points in their last two games. Fired their defensive coordinator over that. Give me the Saints to win at home.

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Let's go to Justin, who you got?

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I'm gonna go with the Saints. They had a big win last week and it's hard to win New Orleans, so I'm gonna go with the paint.

[B]

Yeah, we're going to New Orleans. I'm going to pick them. Plus Tyler Shuck has kind of been good. Like really good, actually. I'm taking Shuck in the Saints. What's next?

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Vikings and Giants. Myron, two teams that blitz a lot going to be blitzing two young quarterbacks. Jason McCarthy's been better. I'm still not sold, but I think he leads the Vikings to a win.

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Adam, Vikings and Giants.

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I'm going with the Vikings too. I don't think J.J. is going to go to New York. Come out with a win.

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Give me Jackson dart to get a big victory right here in front of that Giants crowd. I'll take the Giants. What's next?

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Buccaneers and Panthers.

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Big one on ESPN Radio for first place in the NFC South. Coach.

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I go Panthers Buck. A tough team to figure out for sure. The Panthers. That's my moment.

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Every single time you think they're going to win, they don't. Myron, who you got?

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I'll pick the Bucs to bounce back in this win over the Panthers.

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I go back and forth, the Panthers have been. You never know what you're getting from the Panthers. They are at home. I think they'll take this one and then lose in two weeks in Tampa. But I'll take Carolina for this one. What's next?

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Jaguars at Broncos. Byron, I mean, the question will be how Trevor Lawrence handles the blitz blitz packages from the Broncos. They're a bliss heavy team, But Trevor Lawrence, 12 touchdowns, only three interceptions in the last five weeks. He's been incredible. That continues today with another win for the Jacks.

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Justin, you get the game of the day here. 10 and 4 Jaguar. Jaguars at 12 and 2. Broncos. Who do you like, Justin?

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Yeah, the Jags are playing good football, but I think the Broncos are hard to be, especially at their place. So I'm gonna go with the Broncos.

[B]

This is tough for me because I don't really believe in the Broncos, but they are at home. And as much as I like Liam, I don't think this is the moment for them to get the win. I will take the Broncos at home. What's next?

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Falcons at Cardinals. Myron, I think Kyle Pitts has a big game for the Falcons. Give me the Falcons to beat the Cardinals on the road.

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm not sure. Well, before I do it, let's Go to Adam. What do you got? Falcons and Cardinals.

[C]

I'm gonna go with the Falcons too. I think they're team that's on the rise.

[B]

The Cardinals have looked awful in the last couple weeks. I think they bounced back in with this. Remember, I always do what the opposite of what my inclination is on the Falcons. I think they're going to win. So I'll pick the Cardinals to win the game. What's next?

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Steelers and Lions.

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All right, coach. Steelers and Lions. Aaron Rodgers. I'm going to go.

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Lions at home. Yeah. But impressed with what's done lately. But Lions need this one. So Lions at home.

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Myron, These are games that Mike Tomlinson seems to win at the end of the year. But the Lions have won every other game since October 5th. They're due for a win according to that track record. Give me the Lions.

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Lions have to win and they still. If they win out, they've got a. Still a pretty good shot of making the playoffs. But they have to win out. I think they win tonight. I think that crowd will be loud. Give me the Lions at home. What's next?

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Raiders at Texans.

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Myron.

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Texans. I mean the Raiders. I mean, getting shut out right now. Give me the Texas to win and the big game.

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Justin, you're a quarterback in big moments, likes to make big plays. Will you stick your neck out and say the Raiders win in Houston?

[C]

No, I will not.

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I tried. I do. I tried. Justin. I tried to give you. Yeah, I'm with you though. You're exactly right. There's absolutely no way that the Raiders can win this game. You're. You're right. I will take the Texans in the best defense in the league at home. What's next?

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Patriots and Ravens?

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Myron.

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I mean, it was a good lesson that lost to the Bills last week. I think Drake May's better this week on the road against Baltimore. Baltimore is usually pretty good at home, but I just don't think it's the same Baltimore team. Give me the Patriots to win this.

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Adam, your draw had given you all bad games up until this point, but now you get a good one. Sunday Night Football. Drake May versus Lamar Jackson. What do you got?

[C]

This is a hard game. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go with the Patriots. I'm a big Drake May fan this year. I like what he's been doing. I think he goes on the road and gets it done.

[B]

This really is a great Drake May test. I mean, they had the huge lead last week to Buffalo. They ended up losing it at the end. At Home now he's got to go on the road. I'm taking Lamar. I can't jump off the Lamar train. I've been. I've been a fan of his since he was a sophomore in college. He's going to get a big win today and keep the Ravens playoff hopes alive. I will take Baltimore. And Monday Night football is what, 49ers at Colts, Myron.

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A lot of names out there. I think Kyle Shanahan is actually your NFL coach of the year. I mean, who thought this team would be in this position at this point in the season? Philip Rivers is a great story. I think the 49ers could be a great team. Give me the Niners to win.

[B]

All right, Montana State. I might have all three of you pick this one since it's the last one. We'll start with you, Coach.

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I'm going Niners very impressive this year. Tough situation.

[B]

Coach. You're not going to believe in the old man at 44 coming out with the. I said people our age are supposed to stick with our guys.

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This is true. But that's going to be a tough ass to fill up.

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All right, fine. Justin, what do you got?

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Listen, I'm a Rams fan, so I'm going to go with the Colts here. I like Philip Rivers. I thought he looked good last week, so I think he gets the job done in Indy this week.

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Adam.

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Yeah, for sure. Going against Justin on that one. I'm going to go with the 49ers all the way.

[B]

Oh, a little quarterback running back. You know what? I'm going with Justin. I watched him throw a couple of great passes yesterday. Philip Rivers, that's. It's such a perfect story. It's a Disney movie. This would keep their playoff chances alive. I'll stick with my quarterback at Montana State, and I will take. I'll take the Colts. Hey, guys. Thank you all very much. Looking forward to watching you in the championship. Yesterday was a really cool atmosphere and scene. And congratulations on getting the victory.

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Appreciate you having us on. Go, Cat.

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All right, there you go. Go, Cat. See? I mean, he's talking about the Bobcats of Montana State, but I'm talking about the Wildcats. Go, Cats of Kentucky. We got something in common right there.

[A]

Yeah, man. That's cool, man. Look. Wishing him the best next week in the championship.

[B]

Yes. Thank you. That was very nice. Kind of having all of us. I don't think we've ever done that before. So congratulations to Montana State.

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Thanks for listening to Matt and Myron, the podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10:00am Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, and on SiriusXM Channel 80. Matt and Myron the Podcast.

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