Hour 3: Little League Classic

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Episode: Hour 3: Little League Classic
Hosts: Myron Medcalf, Matt Jones
Date: August 17, 2025

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Overview

In this engaging, wide-ranging episode, Matt Jones and Myron Medcalf take listeners on a brisk Sunday morning tour of the sports world. Featured topics include the enduring magic of the Little League World Series, the surprising Milwaukee Brewers streak, pressure points in the MLB postseason race, NFL team previews, fan culture chatter, and the ever-present quirks of sports media. The hour blends expert insight with banter, a special guest from ESPN's baseball desk, irreverent takes, and a generous dose of humor.

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Key Segments and Insights

1. Little League World Series with Eduardo Perez

[00:35–12:14]

Eduardo Perez Joins to Discuss Little League, Brewers, and more

• The Magic of Little League

  • Eduardo Perez recounts his early morning baseball rituals and praises the "purity" and pageantry of the Little League World Series.
  • Memorable Quote:

    "These Little Leaguers always show us every year why we love this game and the purity of it." (Eduardo Perez, 01:06)

• Brewers Winning Streak

  • The hosts and Perez break down the Milwaukee Brewers’ surprising 14-game winning run.
  • Eduardo's Take:
    • Emphasizes pitching, defense, and baserunning—not offense—as keys to their success; notes the Brewers have the lowest barrel rate but best record in MLB.

    "You don't have to hit the ball hard all the time, but you have to place it in the perfect spot most of the time. And it works." (Perez, 03:40)

  • Discussion of how one or two plays (by Reds phenom Elly De La Cruz) might have changed a recent series outcome.
  • Perez credits the Brewers for putting pressure on opposing defenses with small ball, not just big hits.

• Trouble in New York: Yankees vs. Mets

  • Perez asserts Yankees fans have more reason to worry than Mets fans due to health issues (e.g., Goldschmidt, Stanton, Bellinger, Judge).

  • "The Yankee fans have to be a little bit more concerned." (Perez, 05:52)

• Little League Classic Preview: Mets vs. Mariners

  • The hosts discuss the significance beyond the scoreboard, Perez reflects on the event’s emphasis on sportsmanship and reconnection to the joy of playing as kids:

  • "Whoever wins or loses, they win ... it’s a special event ... it shows sportsmanship." (Perez, 07:32)

  • Cites last year’s Tigers as an example of teams getting energized by participation.

• Biggest Postseason Question: Health of Pitching

  • Philly Phillies' staff health (esp. Wheeler’s blood clot) highlighted as emblematic of the late-season tension everywhere.

  • "You’re going to need pitching down the stretch to be able to contend." (Perez, 09:43)

• Little League World Series Picks

  • Perez names Japan and Chinese Taipei as international teams to watch due to strong pitching.
  • Praises Mexico (notably one kid’s two-home-run performance and great post-game interview).

  • "Do not sleep on Japan and Chinese Taipei ... their pitching could just run through their clock." (Perez, 10:03)

Banter

• Running jokes about co-hosts getting banned from Little League events; skepticism over international team ages.

• "Couple 17, 18 year olds. I don't want to get into it." (Jones, 12:04)

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2. NFL Three-Minute Team Previews

[15:30–33:46]

Seattle Seahawks (Darnold Era)

• Key Question: Is Sam Darnold’s breakthrough last year "for real," or a fluke?
• Discussion of Geno Smith’s abrupt departure; disappointment at Seattle fans booing him.

• "He played there for a few years. One year he was, for part of the season, an MVP candidate ... They booed him out of the stadium ..." (Myron, 16:55)

LA Chargers and Justin Herbert

• Can Herbert be elite in clutch moments?
• Debate over his league ranking: as high as #6 or as low as #14—a range that determines if you can win a Super Bowl.

• "There’s no quarterback in the league ... more looked at differently per person than Justin Herbert." (Myron, 20:13)

• Offensive line issues noted as significant.

Baltimore Ravens

• Lamar Jackson’s 'legacy' year: will he become another Dan Marino?

• "This has to be a year where we get beyond the 'Lamar Jackson is special' ... The pressure is on whether or not he can get this team to a Super Bowl." (Jones, 26:33)

• Discussion of the narrative and the unfairness of history (playoff drops attributed to the QB).

• "Ten years, nobody’s gonna remember that that pass was dropped. It’s just going to be that Lamar didn’t win the game." (Myron, 28:10)

Miami Dolphins

• Focus is on Tua’s progression and whether Mike McDaniel is more than a "cool" head coach.
• Both hosts ridicule the media for fawning over McDaniel’s 90s hip hop references, poking fun at sportswriters’ nostalgia.

• "If you are a coach, the media will praise you if you say, 'I listened to 90s hip hop.'" (Jones, 31:16)

• "My message to Mike McDaniel: Time for Mike McDaniel to be known for actually producing victories in the playoff and not just for wearing the latest sneakers ..." (Myron, 32:20)

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3. Take Your Pick! – Rapid-fire Predictions and Picks

[35:39–43:53]

• WNBA: Fever vs. Sun

  • Both pick Fever; Caitlin Clark’s return cited.

• Little League World Series: Clarendon Hills, IL vs. Honolulu, HI

  • Long, tongue-in-cheek digression about Clarendon Hills’ size and alleged "cheating." Both eventually pick Honolulu.

  • "There's no way out of those 8,702 people, they got kids good enough to go to the Little League World Series ..." (Myron, 36:47)

• LLWS: Panama vs. Mexico

  • Myron picks Mexico, Matt picks Panama, each joke about questionable ages and "aces."

• Major League Baseball: Brewers vs. Reds

  • Analytics and streak talk; both hosts pick Brewers to continue their streak.

  • "There are teams that just literally can’t beat another team ... and the Brewers and Reds are just that." (Matt, 41:29)

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4. Personal Stories, Sports Fandom & Culture

Throughout the episode

• Banter about being banned from events (Little League, Outkast concerts), run-ins with athletes, and the randomness of sports celebrity interactions.

• Humorous reflection on aging:

  > "Most guys aren't taking their shirts off after 30 to impress people ... you better be able to make somebody laugh." (Matt, 42:41)
  

• Ongoing teasing about music knowledge and media stereotypes.

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• "You don't have to hit the ball hard all the time, but you have to place it in the perfect spot most of the time." – Eduardo Perez [03:40]
• "Whoever wins or loses, they win ... this is a special event." – Eduardo Perez on the Little League Classic [07:32]
• "This has to be a year where we get beyond the Lamar Jackson is special ... The pressure is on whether or not he can get this team to a Super Bowl." – Matt Jones [26:33]
• "Ten years, nobody’s gonna remember that that pass was dropped. It’s just going to be that Lamar didn’t win the game." – Myron Medcalf [28:10]
• "If you're a coach, the media will praise you if you say 'I listened to 90s hip hop.'" – Matt Jones [31:16]
• "Most guys aren't taking their shirts off after 30 to impress people...you better be able to make somebody laugh." – Matt Jones [42:41]

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Tone and Spirit

The hosts’ blend of expertise and playful irreverence delivers a relaxed, Sunday-morning vibe. There's genuine insight, particularly from guest Eduardo Perez, and consistent behind-the-scenes banter, self-deprecating humor, and riffs on both sports fandom and media culture.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Eduardo Perez/Little League: 00:35 – 12:14
• NFL Team Previews: 15:30 – 33:46
• Rapid-Pick Segment: 35:39 – 43:53

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For New Listeners

This episode is a microcosm of what makes Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron a sports radio treat: you’ll get smart takes, unexpected laughs, and a reminder of why sports, from Little League to the majors, are about more than wins and losses—they’re about stories, personalities, and those special Sunday moments.

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Transcript

[Matt Jones]

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[Myron Medcalf]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

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[Myron Medcalf]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

It is Sunday morning, Matt, Myron here on ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance. Now joined by one of our favorite guests, this Eduardo Perez, ESPN's Major League Baseball analyst, is a lesson for you kids out there, not just in sports, but in whatever you want to do. If you work harder than everybody, you're gonna make it far in life. And Eduardo is, has done that for years, including this morning. He's already called a Little League World Series game. While you were out doing your thing, my man Eduardo was already calling a game. And now he's doing the radio. He's gonna do another game later because that's Eduardo Perez. Thank you very much for coming on, sir.

[Myron Medcalf]

Oh, thank you, man. I appreciate that intro. But you know what, though? It's just like in those Little League days. My grandfather used to wake me up early. He said, let's go six, 30. I'm like, Gramps, first pitch is until nine. He goes, you got to get those bones loose. Let's go. And that's exactly what we did this morning. Being able to see a pretty, pretty good game today against Massachusetts, representing the New England side in the great Northwest. Also the state of Washington being represented. Washington ended up out in front. But these Little Leaguers are, and they always show us every year why we love this game and the purity of it. And Little League does such a fantastic job of putting on a show here for these 20 Little League teams representing all over the world.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Eduardo, don't tell anybody there. My radio co host has been banned from the Little League World Series for sneaking on the field, running the bases. And so come on now. Yeah, I'm not kidding you. We got a call from National Homeland Security. It's a whole thing. We won't go into it, but now. But nevertheless. All right, so, I mean, Myron, my co host, is from Milwaukee. I'm a Reds fan. So we have been talking trash about the last two nights of baseball where Reds blue, two games that are important for the wild card chase. Milwaukee won them. Unfortunately for Me, probably the more interesting thing is Milwaukee. They've won 14 straight and they're kind of having that aura of they win even though they're not supposed to. Why have they done it and can they keep it up?

[Myron Medcalf]

Pitching, defense and baserunning. That's why they've done it. They have been able to pitch well, they've been able to run the bases unbelievably, and they've been able to play great defense. And that's the MO that the Milwaukee brewers have had throughout their entire system, is make sure that everybody has a plus sign next to their defensive metric in the outfield. They can write it down. They have a plus sign with Ortiz now at shortstop on every part facet of the infield. They've made guys better. You look at the way that Pat Murphy has been able to put guys and plug guys to make them believe in certain situations, in certain situations to succeed. He doesn't let them get too high. He doesn't let them get too low. And if you notice, I did not mention the hitting part of it. And the reason I did not is because if you get all of those three, that hitting side of it, the one that we work more than we do on any of the other facets of the game, will come around. Milwaukee brewers this year let's put this into perspective when you talk about barrel rate, and that's a number that's found in statcast. They have the lowest barrel rate in all of Major League Baseball, yet they have the best record in all of Major League Baseball. So it just goes to show you that if you do do your job as a team, you're going to win. And if you do, that means the numbers will be there at the end. You don't have to hit the ball hard all the time, but you have to place it in the perfect spot most of the time. And it works.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

It's interesting, before Myron gives his. I think you can make a strong argument that if Ellie De La Cruz makes one play Friday night, one play Saturday night, the Reds win both games. Just to your point, everybody focuses on his hitting, but it's those little plays that can make all the difference. Go ahead, Meyer.

[Matt Jones]

There are a lot of people.

[Myron Medcalf]

I mean. But, but. And I'm sorry to interrupt you on the question there, but I mean, you excited me with that first statement. If he makes those plays. But also give credit to the Milwaukee brewers for not we're so enamored with the slug so much that we strike out a lot more. Right. And we don't want that soft contact. Sometimes that soft contact puts pressure on the defense. And you're right, Eliza La Cruz could have made those two last ones or he could have just held on to the baseball instead of trying to throw at 150mph and you still would have had a chance because I don't know, the perfect throw gets him at first. There are so many ways, so many thought processes of it, but the Milwaukee brewers are just putting pressure on defense.

[Matt Jones]

I'm looking forward to the parade when we win the World Series. That'll be a fun time, I think for everybody in my city. No parades in New York though, right now. Who should be more concerned right now, Mets fans or Yankees fans?

[Myron Medcalf]

Yankee fans, I think. I think the Yankee fans have to be a little bit more concerned. And the reason I say that you have Paul Goldschmidt who was raking against left handed pitching. He's out and we don't know for how long would that knee. Right. You have Giancarlo Stanton has yesterday did not play because, you know, felt his feet were a little sore from playing the outfield. Rightfully so, standing on it a lot more than what he's used to after DHing in the last few years. And you have to be careful there. Bellinger as well yesterday fell with an illness. Hopefully he'll come right back and it'll be soon. You don't have Judge playing his defense who talks so much about his offense, but his defense also changes games out in the outfield. I'm concerned more for also the Yankees because the team that's trailing them is the Cleveland Indian. I'm sorry, the Cleveland Guardians and the Kansas City Royals. And those are two teams that recently were in the post season. So they know how to get there. I think those teams should be more of a concern then the Mets, you know, concern if the Cincinnati Reds are going to catch him or not because they're managed by Tito Francona who is a excellent manager.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah, I think the Reds are a player away. So I agree with you on the Yankees. Next year's the year for the Reds, I'm hoping. Let me ask you about the game you got tonight. You got the Mets and the Mariners. It is the Little League Classic, which is an awesome game. It's also a game though that's important for those two teams as they try to find their, their footing. What do you expect to happen tonight with all the little leaguers in the crowd?

[Myron Medcalf]

I'll tell you this, whoever wins or loses, they win. They win here this is a special event. If you think about it, it's the only big league game where game's over and they, they all shake hands just like the Little Leaguers do after the game. It shows sportsmanship. I think what it does, it takes these two teams back to when they were 12 years old, when there was just a love for the game. When it was like, are we eating pizza or hot dogs after the game? That was the main question. It wasn't about what did you do in the game. It was about a team orientated aspect of it. Last year, I think the Detroit Tigers educated us more than anyone. We had them pretty much out of the postseason. We will have them in a rebuild. They just made trades and they end up going on a run that they made the postseason. So coming out of the Little League Classic, I think this energizes both teams. And I think this is exactly what the doctor, the doctor ordered for both Seattle and especially New York.

[Matt Jones]

What's the biggest question, I mean, going into the postseason that you think could determine what happens going into this postseason?

[Myron Medcalf]

Right now, it's the health of the pitching on any stand, on any standpoint. We look at the Philadelphia Phillies, for example, they're riding high. They have one of the best one, two punches in the game with Zach Wheeler and with Chris Sanchez. And all of a sudden now, you know, Zach Wheeler shut down because of a blood clot. I mean, that's scary. But at the same time, the Phillies have to continue to play. And now Chris Sanchez is going to have to step up. Aaronola pitches this afternoon, this morning, as a matter of fact, he started already at 11:30. So I just, you know, those are the concerns is having a healthy staff down the stretch. We're seeing the LA Dodgers right now getting a really good outing. A 96 pitch performance from Blake Snell yesterday, who threw five, you know, five really good innings. But you're going to need pitching down the stretch to be able to contend.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Eduardo, for you on your way out, who's winning the Little League World Series? I know they told us we can't bet on it, but just if we're just following it home, what. Who's winning?

[Myron Medcalf]

I'll tell you this from the. Let's, let's touch on. Do not sleep on. I'm going to say do not sleep on Japan and Chinese Taipei. I was covering the international side till today and I am telling you right now, those two teams have excellent pitching. They are, it's unbelievable what they've been able to do on that standpoint. Now, as far as, as far as team Mexico yesterday, what they did with team Puerto Rico, they'll be playing, they'll be playing at 2 o' clock today to see who passes there between Panama and Mexico. They have a kid that hit two home runs yesterday. Gregorio Gregory Martin threw his two home runs yesterday and he has an unbelievable interview post game. I'm like, I'm kind of believing in Mexico too. But right now, just Japan and Chinese Taipei, the pitching that they have, I think could just run through their Little league clock. Little League World Series.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

That's why I love Eduardo Perez. He mentions interviews with team Mexico. Little League World Series. That is my guy. Eduardo, thank you very much for your time and enjoy your time there in Williamsport.

[Myron Medcalf]

You, you got. I can't wait for tonight's game. I appreciate it. Yeah.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Try to get my man Ryan Lemon unbanned. All he wanted to do was run the bases and fulfill his childhood dream. And they should have, shouldn't abandon him. It was a little bit. It makes me sad.

[Myron Medcalf]

There we go. I'm telling you, should see all the covers that we have here. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta go through a lot of hoops to get on that field.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

No. Yeah. Well, I, believe me, I appreciate, I appreciate, appreciate you coming on. I remember what it was like when I got the call. Mr. Jones, this is Department of Homeland Security. We hear one of your associates is run the bay. Anyway, they were serious. Myron and I had to deal with it.

[Matt Jones]

It's a problem. Not good. Yeah, not good at all.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Also that, that Japanese team.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Couple 17, 18 year olds. I don't want to get into it.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

You are so skeptical of all of the international teams in their players. We will take a break.

[Matt Jones]

401K.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Be right back. Matt, Myron here on ESPN Radio.

[Matt Jones]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

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[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Sunday morning. Matt Myron here on ESPN radio. You ever been banned from a location like my radio Co host Ryan Lemon's been banned from the league World Series.

[Matt Jones]

Just kicked out of an Outcast concert. You know, ban.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

What did you do at the Outkast concert?

[Matt Jones]

Well, we were involved in some extracurriculars.

[Myron Medcalf]

And.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

What is that? What is that?

[Matt Jones]

Got caught?

[Myron Medcalf]

Is it.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Is that. You know, is that something illegal?

[Matt Jones]

Doing stuff we weren't supposed to be doing? Illegal substances and. And the security guys caught us. They threw us out. But then.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Was this last week? Was this you and Joe?

[Matt Jones]

No, this is high school. This is high school. Early college.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

This is not last week. You think I'm out here doing wild stuff, man?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

I mean, I don't know with you. You. You. You have a whole secret life sometimes I don't know about. I can. I can see it. But I'm glad you're just the Truman Show.

[Matt Jones]

So everybody knows everything you do because that's the way your life is and mine is not that. Which is okay.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

That's right. Because you it. Cause if it was, they'd see you getting arrested at Outcast.

[Matt Jones]

Still say that, man. All right, we're doing to hear that, man.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

We're doing our three minute NFL previews of each team from the envelope. We have done. I think we've done 10, 12 so far, so I just drew another one. Myron, why don't you tell the people three minutes about the Seattle Seahawks and the new Sam Darnold era in Seattle?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of it depends on whether or not you think last year was a fluke. Right. Like, was Sam Donald a guy who late 20s, had never been given a proper chance to really show his skill set, and then Kevin o' Connor brought the best out of him, or was that just a situation where he struck gold in a key contract year and got paid for it? We're going to find out.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Remember, he played pretty well in San Francisco. People forget that when he had to fill in a couple times, but no.

[Matt Jones]

One anticipated 14 wins. A guy getting into the playoffs. And up until those last couple of games, a lot of people thought the Vikings were Super bowl sleepers. So I think so much of that team is going to depend on if Sam Donald can strike magic again. If last year was sort of more of a fluke, I think that to me is the biggest factor in terms of what that team might be capable of doing in a weird NFC West.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Agree with all of those things. I actually think Sam Darnold in Minnesota, when they separated, have kind of made it to where both of them have a show me year this year. Right. Like, you have to see who was. Who was more responsible. I could talk about this team, but I actually want to make some displeasure known at Seattle fans. Byron, I was very upset when they booed Geno Smith last week, and I haven't gotten a chance to express that on national radio. Geno Smith did nothing wrong to Seattle. Right. He played there for a few years. One year he was, for part of the season, an MVP candidate and they end up Seattle decides, hey, going in a different direction. Maybe his last year wasn't great. And they booed him out of the stadium when he came in for his preseason game. I thought that was really low class. I have to tell you, from a fan base that is generally considered to be one of the best in the NFL.

[Matt Jones]

It was weird. You know, I also think they felt maybe a little betrayed when he moved on.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

They didn't.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. But. But I think it's probably the combination of both him and Pete Carroll going to the Vegas Raiders. I don't really understand.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Carol, a round of applause.

[Matt Jones]

I don't. I don't fully understand. I know people said there was some back and forth between Geno Smith, Max Crosby and the fans. I don't know if that happened before the game or whatever it happened after.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

They were being booed, which I could understand.

[Matt Jones]

But they better focus on Sam Donald and whether or not last year was a fluke. You bring in Cooper Cup. I mean, a lot of people looking at this and saying how if you can get Cooper cup, being the guy that he was in his prime, Marquez Valdez stancing, DeMarcus Lawrence on defense. There are a lot of reasons for the Seahawks to be better again. Matthew Stafford, what's his status? Do you believe in Brock Purdy now with fewer weapons because they've had to pay him? Does Christian McCaffrey stay healthy? And no one really talks about the Cardinals, So I think it's an interesting season. That will hinge on whether or not Sam Darnold is a good quarterback or a good quarterback for a year like last season.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Jalen Melrose looked pretty good in these exhibition games. Not saying.

[Matt Jones]

I'm just saying just don't play them. Are you playing?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

I'm just saying just. Just keep an eye on it. Tell me a little bit about Jim Harbaugh, his khaki pants in the LA Chargers.

[Matt Jones]

Well, Jim Harbaugh is one of those guys who plays his starters, man. I mean, he plays his starters in the preseason. That's just why a lot of fans are going, man. That's how Quentin Johnston ends up getting hurt. The top wide receiver for them end up going to hospital for evaluation, but should be okay. But I think that's a team where you go, okay, can Justin Herbert be great down the stretch of key games, especially into the playoffs? Like, that's what this all ultimately comes down to. Who is Justin Herbert in those clutch situations that define quarterbacks? We know what they are defensively and all of the pieces that they have. Even though you lose a guy like Joey Bosa, who was hurt a lot, you still have.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Does that matter to you? Do you think the Joey Law Bosa loss hurts him?

[Myron Medcalf]

It.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, in an ideal scenario, but they never had that because of all the injuries.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So I think that's where it's just. It's a lot different. But, you know, if you tell me that Justin Herbert continues to get better and that he's better in the situations where you have to be good to win in the afc, then the Chargers are a player, I think, at AFC west and beyond.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah, I. This for me is. I don't want to say it's the year that decides what Justin Herbert is, because I think he's already shown to be very good. But I'm always fascinated. But I like to look at the rankings of players. I always think it's interesting to see what experts where they put people. I've been looking at the quarterback rankings and there's no quarterback in the league, Myron, that is more looked at differently per person than Justin Herbert. There's one quarterback ranking that I saw him listed as the sixth best quarterback in the NFL. There's another ranking that I saw that listed him as the 14th best quarterback in the NFL. And the difference between the 6th best and the 14th best to me is the difference of whether or not you can win a Super bowl or not. I think you can win a Super bowl with the six best, you cannot win a Super bowl with the 14th best. And Justin Herbert as much as any other quarterback. Jalen Hurts was like this last year where people saw him on way different on a scale. Now things obviously because he's one people all generally put him in the top 10. But I've never seen a quarterback in recent times who the view of him is more different depending on who you talk to than Justin Herbert. And I think this year will probably solidify whatever position people think about where he is on the chain.

[Matt Jones]

I mean winning will change that and winning could be harder. With the offensive line issues with Sean slater signed that $100 million plus deal and he gets hurt out for the season. Joe Alt now having to move I think to left guard and that offensive line. Now you get Makai Becton, a guy that you know well who's just never been healthy. So they got some offensive line issues that could impact Justin Herbert but. But he just has to be more consistent man in those clutch situations. That's what separates the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

The average fan doesn't think about the very first thing you said there. Slaters signed $100 million deal and now he's out here. Think about how much of the cap that you could have used on someone else is now gone to no fault of his own. People get hurt. But when you make a signing like that and then lose them for the year, Myron, that's a huge thing that probably won't show up on most teams fans radar, but it should.

[Matt Jones]

When you lose your left tackle who's an all pro guy, it's going to show up all season if they can't figure out their offensive line.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Are you a, are you a Herbert fan? Do you. Where, where'd you rank him if it's 6 to 14th, who?

[Matt Jones]

Herbert.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Herbert, who else?

[Matt Jones]

6 to 14. I mean it just depends. 6 to 14 Sunday to Sunday. With me, he, he. That range actually works out me, it matters to me like he is in that range.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Congressman Metcalfe here will not take a stand on any issue this morning on Sunday Morning with Matt Myron. Matt and the congressman return for one more set of teams.

[Matt Jones]

Next, Matt and Myron, the podcast.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

That's right. Our babies do not mess around here. On Sunday morning, ESPN Radio, when Myron hears the song gets a little Fritzy because he looks around for the police as he has been escorted out of multiple outcast shows over the years.

[Matt Jones]

Not what happened.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

What happened then? If you say. I mean sources. I'm hearing from sources. You caused a ruckus and were asked to leave an outcast show.

[Matt Jones]

It was the same night I almost got into it with Al Harrington, who was hanging out with Jalen Rose.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

What?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Picking fight.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

First of all, I want you to listen to Mr. Name Drop over here. He's already talked about being snuck into a too short backstage party with Book Wish Buck Wish Bill.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, it's a real thing. No, I like Al Harrington, played for the Pacers.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

He was a rookie.

[Matt Jones]

He was hanging out with Jalen Rose. I always liked Jalen Rose because of that night. He was cool. Al Harrington was not. It wasn't a good experience. And I booed Al Harrington for the rest of his career whenever I went to games as a result of it.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Oh, you boo Al Harrington. So you have Al Harrington beef.

[Matt Jones]

He wasn't nice to me. It was a lot happening that weekend. But Jay, the Rose was nice to me. He was in there that night when I got into my misunderstanding.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Who knew? The Al Harrington beef. That is part of my. Let's think about Myron. You never know with him. He could be fighting with. He can. Seriously. Myron has the most random people.

[Myron Medcalf]

You remember.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

You remember James Brad Muster that played for the Chicago Bears one time? Myron just punched him in the face for no reason. That's the kind of guy he is. He just gets in these random. Yeah, he just gets in these random beefs with Bates Battaglia, former Carolina Hurricane star. Just. Myron just gets into it with people. That happens.

[Matt Jones]

No, Al Harrington told me not to touch him. Like, I was. I was. I was trying to.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Why were you touching him?

[Matt Jones]

I was being like, yo, what's up, man? You're Al Harrington. He said, man, don't touch me. And then I just never liked him from that moment.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Well, why were you touching you?

[Matt Jones]

He claimed I bumped into him like, he claimed I bumped it. Bumped into, like, his new leather jacket or whatever. So he got mad about it.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Did you? I don't.

[Matt Jones]

I was saying, what's up? I may have, like, stumbled into him, but not intentionally so.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

You were drunk and you fell on Al Harrington.

[Matt Jones]

No, I wasn't.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Messed up his jacket.

[Matt Jones]

Jaylen Rose intervened. It was like, nah, rookie, it's all good. Hey, what's up, man? Like, Jalen Rose was schooling him like, yo, man, it's a fan. Relax. You don't have to get all upset about it. So I always respect Jalen Rose because of what happened that night.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

All right, Outcast. What a night. Myron fighting without Al Harrington, getting kicked out of the AD Outcast concert. Beefing with Bushwick Bill. Whoever knew?

[Matt Jones]

Party of a, Bushwick.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Who knew? All right, we are doing our 3 minute NFL previews as I draw teams out of an envelope. This is the envelope for. Well, I don't know why I'm showing this. There's no one who can see me right now. But those of you, if you, if you could see me, you would see my envelope. And the last team I drew out three minutes. Myron on the Baltimore Ravens. Is this the year?

[Matt Jones]

It could be the year where Lamar Jackson becomes our generation's Dan Marino. And there's nothing against Dan Marino, one of the most prolific passes of all time, but no super bowl ring to show for, which is why he gets left out of those conversations about the greatest of all time. We're on our way to seeing Lamar Jackson fulfill that role for this generation. If he can't get to the super bowl, he's had opportunities to host Kansas City. He's been a number one seed. He's been an mvp. He just hasn't been to a Super Bowl. And I think to watch Jaylen Herz dismantle Kansas City the way that he and the Eagles did, only put more pressure on Lamar Jackson. It's like, if he can do it, why can't you? And I think this has to be a year where we get beyond the. Lamar Jackson is a special quarterback. He's doing things we've never seen before. And the pressure is solely on whether or not he can get this team to a Super Bowl. And what feels, feels like a down chapter for my homes and Kansas.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Is there anything that Lamar Jackson could do in the regular season that will have any impact on anyone's opinion whatsoever? I mean, like, zero. I mean, he honestly can't be any better in the regular season than he's been the last two years. He just can't. Like, he's been amazing, and that's a testament to him. I mean, you've taken a player that some guys wanted to become a wide receiver when he came into the NFL and he's not only been an mvp, he's been dominant. He does things that you don't ever see. But ultimately none of it matters if he doesn't win in the playoffs. And the problem he has is that he's to the point that, like, it's not his fault Mark Andrews dropped that pass. Like, it's not his fault. But at the same time, in 10 years, nobody's going to remember that that pass was dropped. It's just going to be that Lamar didn't win the game. Right. So I think for him, I want him to do it. I've never liked a Louisville player ever before, and I like him. I want him to succeed. But, Myron, you're right. He just has to do it at some point. The regular season is just almost irrelevant.

[Myron Medcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And the Mark Andrews pass is what people remember. But don't forget the first half. Lamar wasn't great. And the weird thing about the playoffs for me is not whether Lamar is making mistakes. Remember how different he looked like? He's not acting like Lamar. He's not making the big plays, running down the field, being elusive. He gets timid all of a sudden. It feels like in those moments. And that can't happen this summer, this. This postseason.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Do you expect. I mean, Derrick Henry had such an amazing year. You don't expect that to happen again, right?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, he's different, man. I don't. I mean, it shouldn't happen up until this point, a guy that size being this durable doesn't make any sense, man. But if he can play at a high level, you know, you, You. You bring in J. Alexander, boost your defense. They got this new kicker that everybody's excited about. So I think they're going to be.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Right there again about their new kicker. Is that what. Who's talking about their new kicker? A lot of people. You hear.

[Matt Jones]

A lot of people are talking about.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

So you're, like, walking down the street, people are telling you about the new kicker for Baltimore.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you know, they got rid of the most accurate kicker in NFL history. And Justin.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah, there was a reason. I mean, there was no.

[Matt Jones]

It was a good. There was a good reason. It was a great reason.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

I feel like they. I feel like they weren't justified.

[Matt Jones]

No, they found a new guy. I was justified.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

I mean, if you want to.

[Matt Jones]

Tyler.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

If you want to be the guy who's like, on.

[Matt Jones]

No, I'm saying. Tyler.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

One of the things we got to remember about the Ravens is the defense is not the Ravens defense that you all. Everybody thinks and they got to get better and I think they will this year. But that has been a hang up for. For a little while. All right, you mentioned Dan Marino. So for the next three minutes, we're going to talk about Dan Marino's old team. Tell me about the Miami Dolphins this year.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, you know, Tua has to be better. Mike McDaniel, though, I think is facing all the pressure going into this season. Like, is he more than just a head coach who likes to bring his boombox to training camp or he's actually a guy who can lead this team somewhere? Like, I'm tired about hearing about Mike McDaniel and his great personality and how he's this cool guy that everybody likes to cover. Who cares can he coach or not? And if he can't, he'll be fired. I think this is also a year where it can't be just two. A Tyree Kill had a down year. I mean, even with the injuries, that wasn't the same guy. Is he going into his 30s, early 30s, slowing down and a small receiver when he slows down, That's a major difference. I think you saw some of that last year. But. But I think this is a pretty simple situation. The defense should be solid, but Tua, can he be an elite quarterback consistently? And do they have a coach who is actually more than just.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

You really don't like 90s hip hop? Now, to be fair, to be fair, I never particularly like Mike McDaniel. King dork. He always reminded me of the Steve Buscemi.

[Matt Jones]

I was hard on him.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

He always remind me of the Steve Buscemi meme where he's like, how you doing, fellow kids? Like, he's always kind of reminded me of him. But you would used to take up for him. You've turned on him. Why are you against cool uncle Mike?

[Matt Jones]

I'm not, I'm not against him. I just. If you're. If you are a coach, the media will praise you. If you say, I used to listen to 90s hip hop like it is. It's amazing how that. That makes media people go crazy. Like.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Cause their door be like that too.

[Matt Jones]

Like, wait a minute, you had a Tribe Called Quest CD too.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

That's exactly.

[Matt Jones]

You must be cool.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

That's hilarious. That was the exact group I was gonna say because every. Every person that's like 38 to 50, but really wasn't accepted by the cool kids, they listened to Tribe Called Quest and was like, if people just understood this kind of music. And I think they think Mike McDaniel's one of them, right?

[Matt Jones]

Like, whoa, listen, he's playing, he's playing Wu Tang Clan in training camp. This is going to be the greatest thing that ever happened. So what can he coach or not? They lost John New Smith, Jalen Ramsey, but they bring in Mika, Mika Fitzpatrick, who wants a new deal, by the way. So can that defense be healthy and consistent? They had a lot of injuries last year. And then offensively, who is Tua and who is his coach?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Well, my Message to Mike McDaniel. Here we go. Yo, here's the scenario. Time for Mike McDaniel to be known for actually producing victories in the playoff and not just for wearing the latest sneakers on the sideline and having the most clever references to Nas in his post game press conference.

[Matt Jones]

Like, you know, like with reporters. He's in the huddle and after like the cameras are always like, you know, I used to be in like some freestyle battles, right? Like I don't want to talk about it but you know, I was, I was known to do like he does that stuff and I just, I can't stand that stuff, man. I can't stand that.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

You think he's often talking about his freestyle.

[Matt Jones]

You know, he's, he's like challenging people to rank Biggie Smalls albums and stuff.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Biggie was way. Biggie was way too mainstream. He will talk. Mike McDaniels talks about like a B side hit on the Black sheep single. Like he's not even.

[Matt Jones]

And then, and then he's like, when you don't know it, he's like, what? Oh, I thought you said you listen to hip hop. You know, he's like, so maybe challenging you.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

They'll play like this or that and he'll come in and go, dude, that wasn't their best stuff. That's kind of what that dude.

[Matt Jones]

He definitely has a Google Doc ranking every member of the Wuang Clan.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Like he definitely by their solo ventures. Exactly.

[Matt Jones]

What do you mean? Inspect the deck is 10?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

I don't believe that.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

We got a little bit off pace that not normally that's not part of our three minute NFL preview. But you know what? Today it was. So there you go. We've done 16 teams. We did 10 AFC, six NFC. I'm going to keep my envelope over here with the other 16 teams which we will do next week. But we got games to pick. There's a lot of things going on today. We got to tell you who's going to win or else you'll have no way of knowing. We will do that. Next here on Take your pick on Matt Myron on espn.

[Matt Jones]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

That's right. I think I'll get with this because this is kind of fat. And by that I mean the Sunday morning with Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. Is this Black Sheep or is this somebody else?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it is Black Sheep. Who's the best?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

That's what I thought. Yeah. See, Mikey Daniel, maybe I don't like Mike Daniel because I'm looking at myself in the mirror and it frustrates.

[Matt Jones]

That is all we have left, though. Once you get to a certain age, all you have is like the concerts you went to from like 1992-20.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

We mean all you have. I still have a life. I'm not the one out there being all.

[Matt Jones]

But in terms of like, if you're.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Going to impress, domestic housework, I'm still out there.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but. Yeah, but a past, a younger generation, that's like all we got left to try to impress, you know, we don't.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

To repress. You mean like kids?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they don't really care about anything else, but.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

All right. Well, it is now time for us to not just preview their games and somebody's got to know who's going to win them. So it is time to take a pick. Take your pick. You take your pick.

[Matt Jones]

It's time to take your pick on Sunday morning.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

All right, let's get started. What's up first?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

All right, first up, the Fever at the Sun. The Fever are five and a half point favorites on espn. Ben. And we got a little bit of news about the Fever. What do you guys think?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Well, the news is that Caitlin Clark will come back this year. Can we turn that music down a little bit? I feel like I'm at a rock show during the time. The good news for that's good for the league. It's also good for the Fever. But the kinetic sun are absolutely awful. So I will take the fever to win today.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, Stephanie White softened it a little bit, says the hope is that she's back this season. But they played, you know, they've had some good stretches without her hovering out. Hovering around 500. But the Connecticut son, I think are 6 and 26, gutted the team. They're playing their former coach, Stephanie White. So that should be fun. Fever win this.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

What's next?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Let's go to the Little League World Series. Clarendon Hills, Illinois against Honolulu, Hawaii. That game is starts about 10 minutes on ABC. Matt, who you got?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

All right, so I just looked up Clarendon Hills, Illinois. I mean, I know Honolulu. Clarendon Hills, Illinois is a suburb of Chicago with only 8,702 people, which tells me they must illegally recruit to end up with a team in the league. There's no way out of those 8,702 people. They got kids good enough to go to the Little League World Series, apparently. Sadly, it was where TWA Flight 529 crashed in 1961, killing 73 passengers. But in a more positive news, Bill Lambert is from this town. So with all of that, the combination of I think they're cheating and all those that news, I'm picking Honolulu. What about you, Meyer?

[Matt Jones]

That was a lot. I mean, you were talking plane crashes, Bill Lambert making cheating accusations.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

What do you mean? I was just trying to teach you about the town. I'm not like, that's what it's not for. If you go to their Wikipedia, it says this is where the plane crashed. What do you want me to do?

[Matt Jones]

There's, there's probably a few teams that don't. Few guys on that team that don't live in the suburb are just there for the summer, you know, staying with a friend.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Conveniently cheating for sure.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I don't know. I mean, I'll go with Honolulu. I will say with that Illinois based team, I bet everybody in town goes out for that team and wants to play.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

But no one goes because all the players are out of town. So they don't go. I'm just saying they cheated. What's next?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Vancouver, Canada just run ruled Brisbane, Australia. They made them.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah, well, they always bring some. They always bring kids from Australia. It's such a long flight and they always lose 25 to nothing. Baseball must not be very big in Australia. They usually have like a team from Italy too. And they lose 25 to nothing too.

[Matt Jones]

Also playing for three days.

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

It's a long flight. Also have Panama against Mexico. That's at 2pm Eastern on ESPN.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Eduardo's pick in Mexico because they got a dude who can do good interviews. Meyer thinks they have two 18 year olds. That'll be an advantage. So I will take Mexico to get the victory.

[Matt Jones]

Man, that's two teams where I don't know that anybody is actually going into seventh grade. I mean 17th grade, man, there's a couple, there's a couple of guys on that roster who graduated with me maybe, but yeah, give me Panama. I feel like they always have like an ace that nobody can really handle. I picked panel.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Juan Soto, by the way, did you see their reports? People think he's older now, too. It's like everybody.

[Matt Jones]

You just.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

You just. It's just. Age is just a number. We learned that a long time ago from Aliyah. So what's next?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Wild speculation here on Sunday Morning. Take your pick.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

What Aliyah said.

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Let's go.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go to the song. What was that supposed to say? It's Aaliyah. Aliyah.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

It's not Aliyah?

[Matt Jones]

No, it's in the country.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

We say Aliyah. What's next?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Let's go to Major League Baseball. Brewers.

[Matt Jones]

I might be a different person.

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Reds are actually the favorite today. Got Jose.

[Matt Jones]

Let me see the cd, man. Let me see the CD y' all were listening to up there.

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

And Drew Abbott on the mound for the Reds. Can the brewers win their 15th strength today? What do you guys think?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

She lives over there. Are you telling me this isn't a woman from Pineville? Aaliyah, where'd you.

[Matt Jones]

Where'd you get those CDs, man?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Let me see the CD cover. I'll try to get.

[Matt Jones]

Somebody made it.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

The brewers and the Reds. All right, two. Two forces of statistics are coming together. The brewers have won 14 straight games. The Reds have not been swept all year. They're the only team in Major League Baseball not to be swept. If they lose today, they're swept. If the brewers lose their 14 game winning streak, this is like. What is it? What was the old thing? Irredeemable force versus an irrefutable. That's not right. Immovable force. Irredeemable force. And that's not right. James, what was the slogan?

[Matt Jones]

What are y' all talking about?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Unstoppable force. Immovable object.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Unstoppable force. Immovable objects. Irredeemable forces.

[Matt Jones]

I'm talking about.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

I don't know. Point being, two streaks are on the line. The Reds lose to the brewers all the time, twice this week in heartbreaking ways. So give me the brewers to win.

[Matt Jones]

Like, baseball is weird like that, but, like, there are these weird stats of baseball where, like, there are teams that just literally can't beat another team. Like, it just doesn't make sense. It's across generations. And the brewers and Reds are just that. I think they extend the winning streak going into next week's George Webb giveaway. I just. I just hope everything's peaceful. Jamie giving away 100,000 hamburgers.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah, me too. You're wrestling fan. What'd you think of Triple H? You know, he had a shirt off. People were making fun of him for getting a little. You know, he's like 55 I agree with you. I'm not making fun of him. I'm just saying, didn't you think that was mean?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Yeah, it was definitely mean. He looks better than I do.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

And I'm like, of course he does.

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Fifteen years younger than dude.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Everybody that age take their shirts off and let's see, he and Patrick Mahomes.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Are getting all this trash for just having dad bods. Why do they do that?

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

The guy almost died a couple years ago. He had like, a harness.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Triple H. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Huh? Yeah, he can't.

[Matt Jones]

Talked about, like, almost losing him. Yes. Like an interview. Yeah, it was bad.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Well, you guy, I missed that. Anyway, don't give Triple H a hard time that not everybody wants. Not everybody. Everybody doesn't.

[Matt Jones]

Most guys aren't taking their shirts off after 30 to impress people. Like, if you. Maybe to some guys, but, like, most aren't. That's not your selling point, I'll tell you that. You better be able to make somebody laugh.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

And what age is it okay for it to be your selling point? It's not my selling point, I will grant you. I. My selling point are my eyes and my teeth. What are you. What are your. What's your selling point, Myron?

[Matt Jones]

My smile and my sense of humor. Like, if I can't make you laugh, then I don't have a chance. Probably.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

I agree with both of those things, but neither of us.

[Matt Jones]

I'm reaching funny black man stage, you know? So, like, I'm getting to that point where everything I say, people laugh, you.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Know, on our dating app, neither of you us are going shirt off in the first picture.

[Matt Jones]

I'm not on a dating app. But yes, if I. When I. When I was. I think that was my story.

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

Sorry, you're not gonna be able to get.

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

No, no, no more my bumbling personality.

[Matt Jones]

What's the last one? No, say no. Dude, Bears nuts.

[Sports Segment Host or Producer]

Little League Classic tonight. Why did you put Bears on TV with Caleb Williams?

[Matt Myron (combined persona or co-host)]

This is why we couldn't do another one. Because you don't pay attention. Myron the shirt off Outcast reject Metcalf. I am Matt Jones. We hope you enjoy it. Next is Jonathan Zaslow and his brother Bob Zaslow. Game Day. This is Ben ESPN Radio.

[Matt Jones]

Aliyah, thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10am Eastern on ESPN radio, the ESPN app, and on Sirius XM channel 80. Matt and Myron, the podcast.